prob save me a shitload of time. to think of all the time i've spent arguing on youtube.... man, it's probably 100s of hours. i actually have learned things from debates on here, if you can lol at that
The ending hints that Reagan will so institute a new government, forming the nation of Libria. As such, Patrick Bateman undergoes mandatory drug treatment that allow him to control his psychopathic tendencies. However, he retains control of his lethal abilities, allowing him to excel within the new regime.
There are no more barriers to cross, all I have in common with the incontrolable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indiference towards it I have now surpassed, ...
The director says Bale's performance was inspired by Tom Cruise. He saw him on a talkshow and thought he seemed like a fake human being, an empty shell or something along those lines.
I think his dad is fixing everything because he works for his dad and we are not told about his dad at all then at the end no-one wants to know about his killings.
Can someone please explain to me this movie because I for one did not get it.... I enjoyed it, but I have a feeling it went a lot deeper than I give it credit for. I also know that it has something to do with American materialism, but I can't seem to put the pieces together... Anyone willing to help?
@wippy6dippy7boy Materialism is a big part of it, he even says outright that all he feels is greed. But mainly we're following his descent. He used to only kill homeless at night, but his lust for blood took him over, to the point of pure insanity. When he thought he said one thing, he really said another. He even thought the ATM was asking to be fed a cat. He doesn't enjoy what he does, he just needs to do it.
@wippy6dippy7boy PsychoFreak is right. The thing to note is that Bateman displays all the characteristic signs of someone with antisocial personality disorder/narcissism/sociopathy. All he cares about is himself and how he is perceived by others. When someone does something that diminishes that status, he takes that personally. This is why he kills Allen. There is social commentary though, and that's that despite being a sociopath, he fits into this culture perfectly.
@wippy6dippy7boy In my humble opinion,this movie represents what we think of doing from time to time,i mean it only lasts a millisecond for us but that movie represents what we would do if we would let ourselves go into madness and revenge.I hope this definition helped you understand the movie as i see it
This movie represents narcissistic abusers to the T. His character wants to get caught in a way, but when he realizes that no one even cares or notices, he becomes immune, his narcissism is now ready to go anywhere, since he killed so much. I knew a guy like christian bale's character, a true asshole and sick motherf....er he feels entitled, he's selfish and just soiciopathic,
@northernireland0000 when bateman kills paul allen and drags his corpse to the trunk of the taxi and his friend louis sees him ,he just notices the bag, not the body. "ooohhh, where did you get that overnight bag?" bateman: " jean paul gottier"
@northernireland0000 he did kill everyone. everyone is so caught up with labels, trends, and materialism that no one notices anyone. they only look at their clothes and other stuff, but he did kill everyone. in the end he notices that no one notices "this confession means nothing"
@northernireland0000 You're experiencing the film from Bateman's point of view. The author himself expressed concerns over the film because he thought many people might not understand that, and be confused in much the same way as you are right now lol
@northernireland0000 That's the point, it was all in his head. It's a common theme in the movie, like where at the beginning of the movie he tells the woman at the bar he'd like to kill her and play in her blood, yet she doesn't do anything. Then he tells that woman at the second bar he's into murder and executions, yet she doesn't say anything.
His coworkers call Patrick Bateman [main character] a coward, and that's kind of the main point, he's a psychopath but a coward.
@XmXFLUXmX2 It IS all in his head, you're right, but those aren't good examples. The woman ignoring him at the beginning is just reiterating the fact that nobody really listens to each other. And the murder & executions thing is black comedy concerning yuppie culture, as she thinks he says "mergers & acquisitions".
The guy is literally insane, and he killed nobody in the entire movie. He's just some pussy that hates everybody and fantasizes about killing people because he's a psychopath. The book is different though, in that he actually kills people.
@XmXFLUXmX2 He doesn't actually kill people in the book, he delves into murder fantasies to escape the monotony of his life. Bateman's one of the greatest examples of unreliable narrator in literature.
Am I the only one who thought after he found out about Paul Allen his friends turned into stammering losers? They were all so cool the whole movie, but at that table they were stuttering and acting lame.
i think the film maybe pushes the "it was all fake and only happened in his head" angle more so than the "he did do everything but because of the society he is in is only concerned with the exterior and their own individual life he gets away with it all" which i find to be a more interesting ending in my opinion, but i think a case can be made for both endings.
In the book the murders do happen. There is obviously a lot more in the book that they can't work into the film, and I accept the film is more open to interpretation.
But read the original text and its quite clear. Pat Bateman evens refers to murders he's committed in his youth etc.
@loftgroovv Sorry for the rant I'm about to go on, but it needs to be said: How on earth are you getting that from the book? The author himself has said several times how the book is far more open to interpretation than the movie. Bateman is a classic example of unreliable narrator. Yes, he refers to murders in his youth, but he also makes passing references such as "because I'm actually just dreaming all this" (at lunch with Bethany). Please read any interview with the author.
@BlueVane Well, I suppose its just the way I interpreted it then. For example the scenes with the tramp and his dog, and the child at the zoo, all seem (to me) to be playing out Bateman's increasing inability to physically control himself.
@loftgroovv That's how I interpreted it on my first reading, but then when I read it again I noticed heaps of things - if you read it with the expectation that it's not real, you'll see lots of cues and hints. The author himself has said that - although I wasn't aware of that on either of my readings.
@Searchinganswers i would have to watch the film again to give you a detailed description why, but i believe he did kill those people. And it is his environment, the people around him, hes lifestyle which exercises hes need to feel noticed or to test the boundaries of his fetish for murder. Being confused for Halberstram, the woman in the club mistaking what he sais, paul allen being in london in which the man could have just mistaken paul allen for someone else at london.
@Searchinganswers he had imagined the whole thing, he did not kill anyone. The message was that he couldn't differentiate himself from anyone else, everyone was the same, boring, a product of society and so his only escape was a psychotic fantasy.
@Searchinganswers He did not. This movie is a study of narcissistic society in the 80's and one man's internal struggle to cope with it. All of his "murders" are simply fantasies he has about doing things which would separate himself from the social circle he is in. One scene that supports my theory is when the girl finds his notebook full of drawings where he keeps his fantasies. Also try to pay attention throughout the film for things Bale says aloud that Patrick Bateman doesn't...
@ppec314 Well that`s up to the reader to decide. Ellis himself has stated that he thinks the murders happened, but the society he is trying to portray in the book is so self-involved that nobody realizes nor cares about it either. Is just a bunch of rich yuppies who can`t see past their noses. Anyway, I think is up to you to decide wether they were real or not, I personally think they happened, and for me it makes more sense if they happened. But hey, is my opinion, I tink it works either way
wow, this sounds a lot like something Hitler should have said, especially the part about wanting his pain 2b inflicted on others, priceless. the only difference between Hitler & Pattrick is that Hitler killed over 7 million & Patrick killed about 40. Hitler was truly a psycho, & all because his art teachers didn't give him a chance.
@goohber1 Hitler was a vegetarian, animallover, often laughing, friendly, a bit lazy because he rarely left the bedroom before noon. He was just touchy on certain subjects and would send you to the camps if you mentioned them.
Other than that friendly guy. Not Bateman. Noooo. Bateman is completely different.
I love it when he says he doesnt hope for a better world for anyone. He did kill all those people didnt he i mean i thought it was the stuck up attitude of the high class in the movie that no 1 actually noticed what was going on an example is hes always being called the wrong name :S???
@lolpwlol hes looking around at all the corrupt people in the room and seeing him in them, dangerous corrupt with out feeling for others and only out for them selves. not that it matters he seeing this will not change one thing about the shitty world they have created for the rest of us
@CamButler Possibly the most important quote from the whole film. It pretty much sums up human 'morality' perfectly in a nihilistic/absurdest/existential position. If you're a good enough actor you can convince anyone that you aren't you.
but inside doesn't matter...
6669393 3 days ago
Comments should be banned on youtube.
jm2008sc 3 days ago
@jm2008sc
prob save me a shitload of time. to think of all the time i've spent arguing on youtube.... man, it's probably 100s of hours. i actually have learned things from debates on here, if you can lol at that
tubub 1 day ago
Bret Easton Ellis is great for writing this.
begood20000 4 days ago
The ending hints that Reagan will so institute a new government, forming the nation of Libria. As such, Patrick Bateman undergoes mandatory drug treatment that allow him to control his psychopathic tendencies. However, he retains control of his lethal abilities, allowing him to excel within the new regime.
HonestObserver 6 days ago
Bruce Wayne's young adulthood was no happier than his childhood.
HonestObserver 6 days ago
Whatever is epic always has been always will be lol
FrenchVanillaLove 6 days ago
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chess1302 1 week ago
There are no more barriers to cross, all I have in common with the incontrolable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indiference towards it I have now surpassed, ...
doldei 1 week ago
The director says Bale's performance was inspired by Tom Cruise. He saw him on a talkshow and thought he seemed like a fake human being, an empty shell or something along those lines.
eirikwegga 1 week ago
I think his dad is fixing everything because he works for his dad and we are not told about his dad at all then at the end no-one wants to know about his killings.
wolby2010 1 week ago
THIS IS NOT AN EXIT
vskerane 1 week ago
so bateman goes on to earn billions through wall street which gives him enough money to become the batman.
BEARARMZ 1 week ago 7
I just realised that christian bale and heath ledger could easily have switched roles
ShinobiPXO 2 weeks ago
fucking slave
James25H 2 weeks ago
@James25H Elaborate
Cointelproexposer 2 weeks ago
Rockin' and'a rollin'
stopusingmynamesomg 3 weeks ago
this confession has meant nothing.....P.S: I'M BATMAN.
RustleXer 3 weeks ago
@RustleXer Patrick Batman :)
Northern00000Ireland 2 weeks ago
Can someone please explain to me this movie because I for one did not get it.... I enjoyed it, but I have a feeling it went a lot deeper than I give it credit for. I also know that it has something to do with American materialism, but I can't seem to put the pieces together... Anyone willing to help?
wippy6dippy7boy 4 weeks ago
@wippy6dippy7boy Materialism is a big part of it, he even says outright that all he feels is greed. But mainly we're following his descent. He used to only kill homeless at night, but his lust for blood took him over, to the point of pure insanity. When he thought he said one thing, he really said another. He even thought the ATM was asking to be fed a cat. He doesn't enjoy what he does, he just needs to do it.
PsychoFreak99 4 weeks ago
@PsychoFreak99 Him.. Interesting. Thanks for your help! :D By the way, love the profile pic!
wippy6dippy7boy 4 weeks ago
@wippy6dippy7boy PsychoFreak is right. The thing to note is that Bateman displays all the characteristic signs of someone with antisocial personality disorder/narcissism/sociopathy. All he cares about is himself and how he is perceived by others. When someone does something that diminishes that status, he takes that personally. This is why he kills Allen. There is social commentary though, and that's that despite being a sociopath, he fits into this culture perfectly.
SpuBret 3 weeks ago
@SpuBret Oh cool. Thanks for the help. :)
wippy6dippy7boy 3 weeks ago
@SpuBret Psychopaths are usually good at fitting in.
dujl 2 weeks ago
@wippy6dippy7boy In my humble opinion,this movie represents what we think of doing from time to time,i mean it only lasts a millisecond for us but that movie represents what we would do if we would let ourselves go into madness and revenge.I hope this definition helped you understand the movie as i see it
trebor3863 3 weeks ago
@trebor3863 Thanks for the help man!
wippy6dippy7boy 3 weeks ago
@northernireland0000 Maybe that could be interpreted as in his mind, how he saw things.
scumgod13 1 month ago
This movie represents narcissistic abusers to the T. His character wants to get caught in a way, but when he realizes that no one even cares or notices, he becomes immune, his narcissism is now ready to go anywhere, since he killed so much. I knew a guy like christian bale's character, a true asshole and sick motherf....er he feels entitled, he's selfish and just soiciopathic,
lovemyselfforever86 1 month ago
i wonder did he return those video tapes
whodafuckfarted 1 month ago
I kept waiting for him to say "I'm Batman!"
Drummerboiz19 1 month ago
@Drummerboiz19 more like "I'm Bateman!"
Darknight06 1 month ago 9
@northernireland0000 when bateman kills paul allen and drags his corpse to the trunk of the taxi and his friend louis sees him ,he just notices the bag, not the body. "ooohhh, where did you get that overnight bag?" bateman: " jean paul gottier"
BEARARMZ 1 month ago
@northernireland0000 he did kill everyone. everyone is so caught up with labels, trends, and materialism that no one notices anyone. they only look at their clothes and other stuff, but he did kill everyone. in the end he notices that no one notices "this confession means nothing"
BEARARMZ 1 month ago
@BEARARMZ That's the thing, the book is open to interpretation or at least, it's a very heavily debated book.
XmXFLUXmX2 1 month ago
@XmXFLUXmX2 Book/Movie
XmXFLUXmX2 1 month ago
When crap hits the fan, i tend to laugh like 0:42
dumbestname 1 month ago
@northernireland0000 You're experiencing the film from Bateman's point of view. The author himself expressed concerns over the film because he thought many people might not understand that, and be confused in much the same way as you are right now lol
BlueVane 1 month ago
I GUESS I'M A SICK GUY!!!
pejb83 1 month ago
@northernireland0000 That's the point, it was all in his head. It's a common theme in the movie, like where at the beginning of the movie he tells the woman at the bar he'd like to kill her and play in her blood, yet she doesn't do anything. Then he tells that woman at the second bar he's into murder and executions, yet she doesn't say anything.
His coworkers call Patrick Bateman [main character] a coward, and that's kind of the main point, he's a psychopath but a coward.
XmXFLUXmX2 1 month ago
@XmXFLUXmX2 It IS all in his head, you're right, but those aren't good examples. The woman ignoring him at the beginning is just reiterating the fact that nobody really listens to each other. And the murder & executions thing is black comedy concerning yuppie culture, as she thinks he says "mergers & acquisitions".
BlueVane 1 month ago
@XmXFLUXmX2 no he did it all
BEARARMZ 1 month ago
This movie makes no sense
whitneyv 1 month ago
@whitneyv *SPOILER ALERT*
The guy is literally insane, and he killed nobody in the entire movie. He's just some pussy that hates everybody and fantasizes about killing people because he's a psychopath. The book is different though, in that he actually kills people.
XmXFLUXmX2 1 month ago
@XmXFLUXmX2 He doesn't actually kill people in the book, he delves into murder fantasies to escape the monotony of his life. Bateman's one of the greatest examples of unreliable narrator in literature.
BlueVane 1 month ago
This Is Not An Exit
66ott7 1 month ago
I feel like Bryce is the closest thing to a friend Bateman has...
SmokieWins 2 months ago
@SmokieWins he thinks he is the only interesting person he knows
LordRotzI 1 month ago
0:37 Well, i guess i just born cool, i guess...
TheAlien659 2 months ago
he looks like a toy at the end of the movie.
besnik2011 2 months ago
Anyone else catch the sign behind him? "This is not an exit." Perfect.
6F7665726472697665 2 months ago 4
Am I the only one who thought after he found out about Paul Allen his friends turned into stammering losers? They were all so cool the whole movie, but at that table they were stuttering and acting lame.
shkdbsahbdlabf1 2 months ago
I think this movie is how he got chosen for batman. its a perfect display of alternate personalities
DanteDevil2727 2 months ago 3
i think the film maybe pushes the "it was all fake and only happened in his head" angle more so than the "he did do everything but because of the society he is in is only concerned with the exterior and their own individual life he gets away with it all" which i find to be a more interesting ending in my opinion, but i think a case can be made for both endings.
MikeMJPMUNCH 2 months ago 4
In the book the murders do happen. There is obviously a lot more in the book that they can't work into the film, and I accept the film is more open to interpretation.
But read the original text and its quite clear. Pat Bateman evens refers to murders he's committed in his youth etc.
loftgroovv 2 months ago 2
@loftgroovv It's been quite a while since I last read the book, but as I remember it wasn't that obvious that the murders happen, actually.
mrnagasaki13 2 months ago
@loftgroovv Sorry for the rant I'm about to go on, but it needs to be said: How on earth are you getting that from the book? The author himself has said several times how the book is far more open to interpretation than the movie. Bateman is a classic example of unreliable narrator. Yes, he refers to murders in his youth, but he also makes passing references such as "because I'm actually just dreaming all this" (at lunch with Bethany). Please read any interview with the author.
BlueVane 2 months ago
@BlueVane Well, I suppose its just the way I interpreted it then. For example the scenes with the tramp and his dog, and the child at the zoo, all seem (to me) to be playing out Bateman's increasing inability to physically control himself.
loftgroovv 2 months ago
@loftgroovv That's how I interpreted it on my first reading, but then when I read it again I noticed heaps of things - if you read it with the expectation that it's not real, you'll see lots of cues and hints. The author himself has said that - although I wasn't aware of that on either of my readings.
BlueVane 1 month ago
@kizbo lol? Is there any rules prohibiting comment's on your own video's?
"whatever..." ;d
pazolek20 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos 17
i cant believe that theyre going to remake this film!
Guerillaradio13 3 months ago
@Guerillaradio13 Really???OMG terrible you cant top this!
annaunddaslicht 3 months ago 3
@annaunddaslicht i know, ive read they want to make it "modern" about the wallstreet crisis of today. terrible idea
Guerillaradio13 2 months ago 31
@Guerillaradio13 You´re absolutly right!Dumb idea to remake this movie!
annaunddaslicht 2 months ago 2
@Guerillaradio13 That's just fucking lame. This movie was perfect.
PyschoX213 2 months ago
does anyone else get the feeling this movie is based off a day in the life of Christian Bale
thewarmachinez 3 months ago 2
Someone please explain the ending of this movie to me. Did he kill people or not?
Searchinganswers 3 months ago
@Searchinganswers i would have to watch the film again to give you a detailed description why, but i believe he did kill those people. And it is his environment, the people around him, hes lifestyle which exercises hes need to feel noticed or to test the boundaries of his fetish for murder. Being confused for Halberstram, the woman in the club mistaking what he sais, paul allen being in london in which the man could have just mistaken paul allen for someone else at london.
MrIceolated 3 months ago
@Searchinganswers he had imagined the whole thing, he did not kill anyone. The message was that he couldn't differentiate himself from anyone else, everyone was the same, boring, a product of society and so his only escape was a psychotic fantasy.
rosiewardd96 3 months ago
@Searchinganswers He did not. This movie is a study of narcissistic society in the 80's and one man's internal struggle to cope with it. All of his "murders" are simply fantasies he has about doing things which would separate himself from the social circle he is in. One scene that supports my theory is when the girl finds his notebook full of drawings where he keeps his fantasies. Also try to pay attention throughout the film for things Bale says aloud that Patrick Bateman doesn't...
ppec314 2 months ago 4
@ppec314 Well that`s up to the reader to decide. Ellis himself has stated that he thinks the murders happened, but the society he is trying to portray in the book is so self-involved that nobody realizes nor cares about it either. Is just a bunch of rich yuppies who can`t see past their noses. Anyway, I think is up to you to decide wether they were real or not, I personally think they happened, and for me it makes more sense if they happened. But hey, is my opinion, I tink it works either way
tarvolt 2 months ago 2
@ppec314 Stop saying it like it's true! The movie wants you to chouse what happened...
HeavyWeaponsBaby 2 months ago
wow, this sounds a lot like something Hitler should have said, especially the part about wanting his pain 2b inflicted on others, priceless. the only difference between Hitler & Pattrick is that Hitler killed over 7 million & Patrick killed about 40. Hitler was truly a psycho, & all because his art teachers didn't give him a chance.
goohber1 3 months ago
@goohber1 Hitler was a vegetarian, animallover, often laughing, friendly, a bit lazy because he rarely left the bedroom before noon. He was just touchy on certain subjects and would send you to the camps if you mentioned them.
Other than that friendly guy. Not Bateman. Noooo. Bateman is completely different.
JustineBieberxoxo 3 months ago
With this movie and character, Christian Bale has achieved immortality. Long after his death, people will be looking at this movie.
Chnamanjx 3 months ago
@Chnamanjx I hope it will take a long time until this happens.Because the world would lose a great actor and a very sexy man!
annaunddaslicht 3 months ago
does anyone think Bateman was a nihilist??
dward2502009 3 months ago
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James25H 2 weeks ago
Tim Price was the one person other than Bateman who knew how shit was.
420bluntsmokerxXx 3 months ago
@pazolek20 may i ask why you're quoting your own video in the comments?
kizbo 3 months ago
...Whatever
Flamesofutumno 3 months ago
I have just seen an ad with Will Arnett!
DarkAlex1794 3 months ago
This is not an exit.
HarrysMusicBlog 3 months ago
the ad before this video, is perfect to represent everything this movies represents as evil.
but anyways, this is the greatest movie speech ever for me
lovetownsend 3 months ago
I love it when he says he doesnt hope for a better world for anyone. He did kill all those people didnt he i mean i thought it was the stuck up attitude of the high class in the movie that no 1 actually noticed what was going on an example is hes always being called the wrong name :S???
CynicalZunak 3 months ago
@CynicalZunak what?
dclaunch10 3 months ago
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CynicalZunak 3 months ago
1:05 But inside his brain was being destroyed by Alzheimer's.
graemeoliver84 3 months ago
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I chopped his fucking head off.
Subatomic1000 3 months ago
Then he talk to a therapist suggesting him that instead of killing normal people why kill bad people..........and so batman began
nikkolei 3 months ago 2
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sexybacklemon 3 months ago
all i can think he is gona say at the end is im batmannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
shamrocks4life1996 4 months ago
1:42 until the end = fucking powerful
Steve128967 4 months ago
i killed Paul Allen with an Axe in the face!
Sveners50 4 months ago
what the fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck. great film.
Fishstixj4l 4 months ago
in light of the corrupt shit happening today this scene is so true.
stephenddblyth 4 months ago
last 30 seconds most intense shit in history
jvoytcheff 4 months ago
awesome ending
ethanhuntca 4 months ago
AP is an awesome movie, I can't make myself any clearer.
Colddeed 5 months ago 5
I DIDN'T GET THE LAST SCENES :(
lolpwlol 5 months ago
@lolpwlol hes looking around at all the corrupt people in the room and seeing him in them, dangerous corrupt with out feeling for others and only out for them selves. not that it matters he seeing this will not change one thing about the shitty world they have created for the rest of us
stephenddblyth 4 months ago
@lolpwlol He didn't kill them.
WinterDuck 4 months ago
@WinterDuck Yes he did.
Read the book.
xxxfuckupxxx 4 months ago
@WinterDuck you mean he didn't kill anybody or just the guys in the last scene?
lolpwlol 4 months ago
'I'm just a happy camper....Rockin' & a-Rollin'
Outstanding X)
AdamskaHaven 7 months ago 49
@AdamskaHaven stfu you piece of shit
Capri557 4 months ago
...but inside doesn't matter.
CamButler 7 months ago 73
@CamButler Possibly the most important quote from the whole film. It pretty much sums up human 'morality' perfectly in a nihilistic/absurdest/existential position. If you're a good enough actor you can convince anyone that you aren't you.
Traynor921 4 months ago
@Traynor921 Indeed. This film perfects captures the idea of style over substance.
CamButler 4 months ago
@CamButler but what I do that defines me ;-)
SpadesJack 3 months ago