homosexuality is the result of reprogramming the mind and body to abomination. mouth speaks and that is the design of mouth not to abomination like what homosexuals are doing.
The ONLY way homosexuality could be a choice is if our genes programmed us to be. If genes aren't the deciding factor, then our environment must be. Genes do NOT code for homosexuality, and here's why...
The purpose of a gene is to pass phenotypic information from parent to child. Since two members of the same gender cannot reproduce, the gene for homosexuality would in essence be "committing suicide" and would evolutionarily wipe itself out after so many generations
Aristotle believed in “natural order” for slavery because there are some people who are “slaves by nature,” a phrase found in his Politics.
Of all the ideas churned up during the early tumultuous years of American history, none had a more dramatic application than the attempts made to apply to the natives there the Aristotelian doctrine of natural slavery: that one part of mankind is set aside by nature to be slaves in the service of masters born for a life of virtue free of manual labour.
"I understand that for many people it's not, but for me it's a choice, and you don't get to define my gayness for me, a certain section of our community is very concerned that it not be seen as a choice, because if it's a choice, then we could opt out. I say it doesn't matter if we flew here or we swam here, it matters that we are here and we are one group and let us stop trying to make a litmus test for who is considered gay and who is not." CYNTHIA NIXON
I feel discriminated against because I am a proud white Christian. If I say that I am proud because I am a white person or a Christian, all sorts of people attack me. They ridicule my faith and insult my entire race. They believe they are better than I am because they are liberal, or non-white, or atheists, but why? Then they go on to say that they are tolerant and accepting, yet they refuse to accept me. I think I smell the stink of hypocrisy...
@SouthernPreachers Exactly, there is no predisposition to be gay. No gay genes, no gay sectors in the human brain. I hope they change and find God, and see the sickness of homosexuality.
@Bllackguard666 if i like what i like, it's not me choosing, is it? nope. if im a girl who likes girls, its because i LIKE girls. I never chose to, otherwise i would be straight so people would accept me.
The lesbian, gay, and bisexual community does not need to have its “deviance” tolerated because its members were born “that way” and “cannot help it.” Rather, society must recognize the validity of lesbian and gay lifestyles. We need an end to discrimination, an acceptance of all human beings, and a celebration of diversity, whatever its origins.
The scientific argument for a biological basis for sexual orientation remains weak. The political argument that it will bolster gay pride or prevent homophobic bigotry runs counter to experience. - Council for Genetic Research
Spiltzer is viewed as a historic champion of gay activism. Spitzer played a pivotal role in 1973 in removing homosexuality from the psychiatric manual of mental disorders
So, there you have it, the homo activist, pole smokers, want to justfy their perversion through political activism. Sodomites stormed the APA convention in 1973 and rammed their agenda down the collective throat of the APA through intimidation and scare tactics.
The results of a study conducted by Dr. Robert L. Spitzer published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 32, No. 5, October 2003, pp. 403-417.
Spitzer's findings challenge the widely-held assumption that a homosexual orientation is "who one is" -- an intrinsic part of a person's identity that can never be changed. Spiltzer is viewed as a historic champion of gay activism. Spitzer played a pivotal role in 1973 in removing homosexuality from the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.
Prior to 1973, homosex appeared in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the official reference book used by the American Psychiatric Association for diagnosing mental disorders. Homosexuality was considered a sickness that doctors routinely treated. In 1973, however, it was removed as a sexual disorder, based on the claim that it did not fulfill the “distress and social disability” criteria that were used to define a disorder.
@PAC0SANCHEZ here's one thing you've forgotten. I'm a college professor at a private Catholic University, this means that I TEACH the next generation what science teaches, and you have no control over that. At my CATHOLIC University the students supported gay marriage in the 2008 election by a big margin. I had a lot to do with that. The dean of my school gave my husband and I a special wedding shower as well as his "blessing." Live with it, bigot. Calling me names shows your immaturity, Paco
YOU are a FAILURE as a CATHOLIC...you should be EXCOMMUNICATED for being a liberal nut case. YOU are the reason why so many CATHOLICS are LOST and on their way to HELL.
YOU are NOT saved and have absolutely no hope of heaven...YOU will burn in Hell forever....there is no such thing as purgatory. And you are a FALSE professor, poisoning your students mind with your false and misleading ethics. Your ethics are manmade and based upon the work of Joseph Fletcher at best.
@lisztnut Hey NUT job, news flash...You Have Absolutely NO, None, Zip, Zilch "scientific" data to "prove" that homo sex perversion is genetic.
Homo Sex Perversion is a CHOICE pure and simple.
The APA was forced by homo activist to remove homo sex perversion from the Blue Book...it is a historical FACT. An inconvenient truth for those who subscribe to the religion of homo sex perversion.
@SouthernPreachers sexual orientation isn't a belief system, and neither is being male or female, you dickwad. You are such an ignorant twit. And I posted a dozen studies on here showing a link between homosexuality and genetics. If you can't read or educate yourself i can't do it for you. The EVIDENCE is HERE! It's up to you to open your small bible mind and do some research and EDUCATE your fucking mind.
A handful of studies published during the 1990s have claimed to offer evidence in favor of a biological or genetic cause for homosexuality. Three of these in particular—a study of brain structure by Simon LeVay, a study of twins by J. Michael Bailey and Richard C. Pillard, and a study of “gene linkage” and “gene markers” by a team led by Dean H. Hamer—attracted considerable media attention and are largely responsible for the popular belief that a “gay gene” has already been found.
One highly publicized study that purported to demonstrate this was conducted in 1991 by former Salk Institute researcher Simon LeVay. LeVay studied the brains of cadavers, including 18 men known to have been homosexual and one known to have been bisexual. He compared them with the brains of another 16 men and six women whom he presumed to have been heterosexual.
LeVay’s manufactured hypothalamus study received widespread media attention and as a result catapulted the idea that some men are born “gay” into prominence. Although the misinformed still quote the study today as proof that men who have sex with men are born “gay,” it was actually discredited shortly after its release.
First, LeVay compared the brains of 19 men who had sex with men and died of AIDS (which is known to ravage the brain) with the brains of 13 men whose sexual habits he did not know. It is therefore impossible to draw any conclusion from his study.
First, LeVay compared the brains of 19 men who had sex with men and died of AIDS (which is known to ravage the brain) with the brains of 13 men whose sexual habits he did not know. It is therefore impossible to draw any conclusion from his study.
Second, although LeVay argued that a small INAH3 (hypothalamus) “caused” men to be “gay,” some of the men that, according to his guess work, had sex with men, had an INAH3 (hypothalamus) that was larger than the average size of the INAH3 of the “supposed” men who had sex with women. Furthermore, some of the men who had sex with women had an INAH3 that was smaller than those of the “supposed” men who had sex with men. So, some of his “gay” subjects should have been straight, and vice-versa.
Fourth, Simon LeVay himself, admitted that the study was inconclusive in 2001, “It’s important to stress what I didn’t find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn’t show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain.” (as quoted in Byrd, et al., 2001, emp. added). Simon LeVay’s hypothalamus study confused the public.
@SouthernPreachers The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society. From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.
@lisztnut YOU are deceived...and a deceiver! Note*
The American Psychological Association (APA) has just released its “Task Force Report on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation” (August 2009), a report issued by five psychologists and one psychiatrist who are all activists in gay causes.
FACT: The Task Force was composed entirely of activists in gay causes, most of whom are also personally gay, goes a long way toward explaining their failure to be scientifically objective.
@SouthernPreachers for the record, I have presented a huge body of EVIDENCE on this thread which confirms that homosexuality is a result of genetics, hormones and the early uterine environment. If you choose to ignore this evidence it only shows that your mind has been corrupted by your narrow religious beliefs. Just like you don't believe in the scientific FACT that evolution HAPPENED. Get over it.
@lisztnut What evidence? NOTHING, ZIP, ZILCH, NATTA
Evan S. Balaban, a neurobiologist at the Neurosciences Institute in San Diego, noted that
the search for the biological underpinnings of complex human traits has a sorry history of late. In recent years, researchers and the media have proclaimed the “discovery” of genes linked to alcoholism and mental illness as well as to homosexuality. None of the claims...has been confirmed (as quoted in Horgan, 1995).
1_If Sodom and Gomorrah were gay, how come they were reproducing ? I'm not Christian, but I think Sodom and Gomorrah didn't extinct because they couldn't reproduce, but because god punished them, so we need to assume that Sodom and Gomorrah men were getting married to the opposite sex (otherwise how come they reproduced)
2_Bible has violence aspect and tolerance aspect, why do you only take the violence aspect ?
Look at all the liberal comments here and see for yourself the utter hypocrisy of the pole smoking left. These are the same people that scream "Don't judge" and "Judge Not" all the time...but here we have a perfect example of just how hypocritical they really are.
@SouthernPreachers Preacher man, why did you say "liberal" in reference to people who say that homosexuality isn't a choice? Are you claiming that all "conservatives' are ignorant of what science actually says about this issue? Oh, my bad, never mind.
" Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person's sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. It is therefore not a choice."
The “Gay” Gene Study Probably most influential study reported a “gay” gene and was conducted in 1993, by a homo sex pervert. Dr. Dean Hamer (homo) and his team of geneticists at the National Cancer Institute. Hamer the HOMO and his colleagues reported that a “gay” gene seemed to be maternally linked and could be found on the Xq28 stretch of the X chromosome.
Immediately after the Hamer HOMO study was published a media explosion ensued, but like the LeVay study before it, Hamer’s study was discredited as both biased and corrupt. In fact, the title of an article appearing in the same-gender sex magazine, New York Native, illustrates this fact well. The article is titled: ‘Gay Gene’ Research Doesn’t Hold Under Scrutiny, Chicago Tribune’s John Crewdson Uncovers Possible Scientific Misconduct by NCI Researcher.” (New York Native, 7-10-95, p.25)
In addition to the political and social firestorm HOMO Hamer’s research has ignited, he has also been criticized by numerous scientists for not performing what seems to be an obvious control experiment: examining the genes of heterosexual brothers. Those scientists, including two prominent geneticist/biologists at Harvard University [Richard Lewontin and Ruth Hubbard], were not government researchers.” (New York Native 7-10-95, p.28)
Even worse for HOMO Hamer, the National Institute of Health’s Office of Research Integrity investigated his ‘gay gene’ research and found that HOMO Hamer manipulated the data reported to NIH’s integrity office by a junior researcher who performed research crucial to HOMO Hamer’s claimed discovery... (New York Native 7-10-95, p.28,)
HOMO Hamer deliberately and deceitfully excluded pairs of brothers whose genetic makeup contradicted his pre-planned experimental outcome. NIH never released the results of the inquiry, but Hamer was shortly thereafter transferred to another section. He had done the “gay” gene research under a grant to work on Kaposi’s Sarcoma, a skin cancer that inordinately afflicts homosexual men.
"The current literature and most scholars in the field state that one's sexual orientation is not a choice; that is, individuals do not choose to be homosexual or heterosexual. There is no scientific evidence that abnormal parenting, sexual abuse, or other adverse life events influence sexual orientation,"
Did you read that Preacher? There is NO evidence that early family environment plays ANY role in sexual orientation. NONE!
@SouthernPreachers Psychologists used to believe homosexuality was caused by nurture —namely overbearing mothers and distant fathers—but that theory has been disproved. Today scientists are looking at genes, environment, brain structure and hormones
Homosexuality is NOT an in born trait or something that is genetically FIXED at birth.
Homosexuality is NOT something that is a product of a bio-molecular marker, a specific arrangement of amino acids within the double helix of DNA. It CANNOT be identified by a certain, specific strand of DNA at birth nor detected at birth. It CANNOT be determined by analysis of or evaluation of DNA. Same sex attraction is a product of environmental influences such as your FAMILY upbringing. You are sick...
@SouthernPreachers WOW! way to copy and paste the same comment from a week ago. homosexual behavior is a choice (obviously). however, i've heard scientific evidence that contradicts what you said.
@SouthernPreachers okay, first of all, STOP TALKING IN ALL CAPS. IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT. secondly, just out of curiosity, are you the person that's talking in the video?
@SouthernPreachers What you just said also applies for hetrosexuality, does that make it a choice too? no it doesn't. LOVE is an uncontrollable feature of life, if you can't stand that then YOU'RE sick.
@SouthernPreachers So, if same sex attraction is a product of environmental influences during your upbringing, doesn't that mean its not a choice? Also, if you have proof that sexual attraction is not decided during fetal development, I would love to see it.
@SouthernPreachers Preacher man, is that enough scientific evidence for you that homosexuality IS biological and not a choice, nor the result of environmental factors? Care to read more? Google:
Is it a Choice? The Science of Sexual Orientation, libertyeducationforum org
@tongxinlian8911 I feel genuinely sorry for you. I do not want to bully you or anything but you should not want to be a homosexual. Homosexuality is a choice and a sin. If homosexuality was at all ok why can two men not make babies?
@TheIphone4thewin please explain why you think gay people can't procreate. Last I checked my penis operates the same way as any heterosexual. And, who wouldn't want to be gay, even IF it were a choice, considering the fact that gay men outperform straight men in income levels, education, travel and quality and frequency of sex? If homosexuality is so bad, why are some of mankind's highest achievements the work of gay men? Mona Lisa, statue of David, Socratic teaching method, etc.
We have always been a natural and beautiful piece of the human experience. Our love is as good and as healthy as anyone else's. I did not choose to be gay, but I'm thankful every day that I was created this way. I wonder what lies I might believe about gay people if I'd been born straight?
Homosexuality is NOT an in born trait or something that is genetically FIXED at birth.
Homosexuality is NOT something that is a product of a bio-molecular marker, a specific arrangement of amino acids within the double helix of DNA. It CANNOT be identified by a certain, specific strand of DNA at birth nor detected at birth. It CANNOT be determined by analysis of or evaluation of DNA. Same sex attraction is a product of environmental influences such as your FAMILY upbringing. You are sick...
@SouthernPreachers OF COURSE it's not in the DNA, that would mean their parents would be gay too, which they aren't because they wouldn't have children if they were. Why is every argument against homosexuality religious? I'm sick of this. Who are you to decide for gays what they feel. THEY are the ones experiencing it. How old were you when you chose to be straight? Can you remember that? Because you must have considered being gay before you chose to be straight. You chose the right path right?
@SouthernPreachers oh my god, your ignorance is staggering to me. No, homosexuality isn't in our DNA, nor is heterosexuality, for that matter. it is just like left handedness, a complex characteristic with multiple biological factors involved, including hormones and the uterine environment. The notion that sexual orientation is influenced by environmental factors has been soundly dismissed.
@SouthernPreachers consider this fact: Swedish scientists say they are very close to being able to predict sexual orientation BEFORE birth using brain size measurements: What the Gay Brain Looks Like, Alice Park, time com, 2008
@PAC0SANCHEZ if heterosexual are so "intelligent' in their choice in the social aspects of life, please explain why heterosexuals are exclusively responsible for:
1 abortion
2 teen pregnancy
3 abandoned and unwanted children Homosexuals have nothing to do with this, and we often adopt children from FAILED heterosexuals. Think about it. Homosexuals procreate too, but we just do it responsibly.
@PAC0SANCHEZ no, I'm saying that sexual orientation, whether it be homosexual or heterosexual, isn't a "moral" issue. It is no more wrong to be homosexual that it is to be left handed or have red hair. It's merely a minority, and sorry you can't understand that simple concept, Paco.
@PAC0SANCHEZ gay people CAN and do have biological children. Homosexual orientation has nothing to do with procreation. Does it mean that I can have children with my husband? No, and it's a convenient fact that we don't WANT children. We are two highly busy professionals, who wouldn't have time for this. And, please tell me why you think having babies is a good thing. I'm all ears. I see in my sibling's lives that it has been a bad thing for them. They have no life of their own.
@PAC0SANCHEZ Whether my genes live or die is of no concern to me. Why should it be, Paco? What is important in life is what we ACCOMPLISH with the lives we have. Too many teen girls get pregnant because they think it will give their life "meaning." Instead, they end up having NO life for the next 20 years. And, if you are serious about understanding why homosexuality is biologically NECESSARY for the species read this:
Conundrum: The Evolution of Homosexuality by NJ Peters
@PAC0SANCHEZ in fact, did it matter that Beethoven and Michaelangelo had no children? Hell no! It it what a person DOES with their lives that matters. I think you come from a different culture than me. My parents didn't raise me to have any desire to procreate. I was raised white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant, NOT Catholic and Mexican.
@PAC0SANCHEZ I didn't mean to disrespect Mexicans, I'm just saying it's a cultural difference we have. In my culture having kids is not considered "essential" to our happiness. In fact, my heterosexual sister and her husband didn't even attempt to have kids until they were married for more than ten years and they had only ONE child, because they didn't want more than that. They procreated RESPONSIBLY, and that's why I'm proud of my sister. She's my hero.
@tysonvslewis12 great comment! i would add that your figures of homosexuality in the animal kingdom are quite underestimated. It is closer to 7000 species of animals that have been documented as mating with same sex partners. But, the studies have not been completed in all animals species, as that will take a long time, and funding is scare for such study. Guess who has tried to quell this field of research? The religious right, of course!
Just because ANIMALS behave like ANIMALS does not give human beings, created with the capacity to make moral choices, the platform or basis upon which he or she can then justify that course of action which is a perversion of nature.
@tysonvslewis12 You cannot justify your homo sex perversion by pointing at a heard of swine and saying "see, look at those perverted pigs, if they can do it then so can I..."
Justifying your behavior by comparing yourself with animals just proves that you are wicked and no better than a dumb ass.
@logoRH, I take it you are implying there's some contradiction there? There's not. The Numbers passage, actually running from verses 13-26 is telling you that whatever God decrees will come to pass. In the Exodus passage, Moses' appeal to God succeeded because God had only threatened judgement, not decreed it. Stupid is reading 2 sentences from 2 books, disconnected from their contexts and thinking you can make sense of it. Take some time and read whole books, friend.
Yes, be afraid, I might bite your neck in a line at the store and you become gay. Every time you go to a store, I might be the motherfucker standing right behind you.
Are these people really AFRAID of homosexual people?
I am bisexual myself and I rather turn completely into homosexual, because I only have physical attraction to women, but I can not see myself being in a relationship with a woman.
@Mymagic - and what about what Jesus said about being able to know them by their fruits, and about judging righteously, and about false believers, and about the need to stop sinning, or how about we get the completed statement that you referred to where He said after you have removed the plank from your own eye then you'll see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's?
To see you so openly hate against innocent people makes me feel horrible inside. God is not a weapon. And you know what?You're all horrible, nasty people. To disregard the fact that this can be proven with science, and to just say 'We'll be the salt in their wound'.You're going to hurt and punish innocent people just because of their sexual orientation?You ignorant, horrible people.If God truly saw fault within our world, he would come forth.You are taking things into your own hands. Wrongly.
So you're saying we should get rid of homosexuality because it's not natural? Guess what else is not natural? Medicine. And guess what? They WERE born that way. It has been proven by science. It's not a choice.Anyone who wants me to prove it, just comment back and I'll prove it with science. And the bible is stupid. It also says divorce should be punished by death (It says divorce is adultry, and it says adultry should be punished by death) It also supports SLAVERY.Where do you get your morals?
Whatever "God" you claim to serve is not my Jesus of the New and Old testament. He was and is a very loving person. Seeing you be the exact opposite brings a tear to my eye. Do not judge someone because they are sinning in your eyes. God says that all sins are equally wrong. So why did you cut your hair and trim your beard? Because you're not supposed to do that according to the Word. Why did you eat unclean meat? Sinner. Get your facts right before you tell me what MY god thinks of your "god."
Idc whether you're right or wrong but your words and insults are filled with hate and that is not of God at all...This is coming from a completely heterosexual male...you should be ashamed of yourself...
In John 12, Jesus said the words He's already spoken would be His measurement at judgement. In Acts 9 Jesus said He chose Paul to bring His message to the Gentiles. In 1 Corinthians 6, and Romans 1, Paul (bringing Jesus' message) talks about homosexuality as a sin. Deferring to what the judge has already decided is not judging. With sincere love, I truly hope this brief message may call someone to repentance.
@elijahhascome12 Use a little common sense, but if you want to do that, you're welcome to it. However, my dog might have something to say about it. Too many so-called Christians are getting so 'high and mighty' about how others' behavior that they forget about their own. It boils down to what Jesus said about taking care of the plank in your own eye before bitching about the splinter in your neighbor's eye.
@nykchicks - science has definitely not proven that. Name the scientists and research project which have definitively "proven" this like you said. At one time many thought Ptolomeic science was proven. Does that make it so?
@SouthernPreachers Is anyone without sin? And does god weigh any sin worse than another? Last time I checked, "False Testimony" was on the same two tablets as "Adultery". And are you in any position to be judging people? God is supposed to be the one whose job that is. You're pointing the finger, and I'm pointing you to the mirror.
Simply put... HOMO SEX IS AN ABOMINATION, A DAMNABLE SIN, A GROSS PERVERSION OF THE IMAGE OF GOD, GREVIOUS WICKEDNESS A MONSTOROUS EVIL A MANIFESTATION OF SUPREME REBELLION AGAINST A HOLY GOD A DENIAL OF ONES OWN PHYSICAL, NATURAL DESIGN AND THE HOLY INTENDED USE OF IT A REVELATION OF THE PERVERSE NATURE OF THE CORRUPTION WITHIN THE HEART, MIND AND SOUL A QUICKENING OF THE JUDGMENT OF GOD A HENIOUS LIE A SIN SO WHORISH THAT IT DESERVES ETERNAL DEATH UNHOLY, FILTHY, UNGODLY & SICK
@SouthernPreachers How about a church that pickets the funeral of a young straight American serviceman who was killed in Iraq solely because they were protesting the governments allowing homosexuals to have freedoms in this country? You Southern fundamentalists are the ones who are immoral. You focus on an obscure line in an Old Testament book that should be excised from Scripture for all that it is relevant in today's society. Continued. . .
@MyMagic111 I will go toe to toe with any of you homo loving, sin infested, sin justifying, unholy, neo-evangelical, biblically illiterate masturbators any day of the week...prepare for a spanking.
@SouthernPreachers Continued. . . You preachers should listen to yourselves and hear Satan in your speech.. Do you ever ask yourselves before you speak, 'What would Jesus say, here?' I believe that if Jesus was to show up in your Church, you would not recognise Him because He most likely would not fit into the narrow view what a non-sinner should be. Your way of thinking has been shaped by years and years of twisted ideas. I think you will find your 'paradise' quite warm when you get there.
@SouthernPreachers What better places for Satan to grab souls are in the churches where people are such sheep they will accept as 'gospel' whatever drivel that pours out their preachers mouth. Jesus never said anything against homosexuals. He gave us the directive to not FORNICATE! That means everybody whether straight or gay. I don't see you picketing about extra-marital sex. How many unborn children are killed each year because a straight unmarried couple fornicated? Get real!
@MyMagic111 OH PLEASE..."Jesus never said anything about homos..." You are Biblically illiterate! You have revealed that you are a raving mad LIBERAL...a member of the church of the Fallen. A false disciple, a false witness, a false professor, a false teacher and obviously a disciple of Rob (I'm heading to HELL) Bell and most likely a member of church of the deceived.
@SouthernPreachers How arrogant you are that you think you know the mind of God? How do you know that He did not create homosexuals to give them this trial to bear in this life? How do you know that He did not intend this for them so they can be tested with the difficulties that go along with this life to help them grow in spirit? When one goes through hardship and survive, one tends to be much stronger. How do you know that this is not what God intend for these special people? Shame on you!
@SouthernPreachers One more thing. Check out Mike Hauser's blog here on Youtube: Biblical Jesus vs Churchy Jesus. It is an eye-opener. You have a choice (there's that word again.) You can watch it an learn something and grow as a Christian, if you really want to be a Christian; or you can choose not to watch it and continue to stagnate in the erroneous teachings of your churches traditions. I pray for your sake that you make the right choice.
Hosea 9:9 They (YOU) have deeply corrupted themselves (YOURSELF), as in the days of Gibeah: therefore HE will remember (YOUR) their iniquity, he will visit their (YOUR) sins.
Hosea 9:10 ...but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations (HOMO SEX PERVERSIONS) were according as they loved.
Hosea 9:14 Give them (HER), O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them (HER) a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.
@SouthernPreachers Tell me, how many years have you been married? How many children have you raised? I have been married more than 25 years since I gave up trying to find spiritual satisfaction in living a gay lifestyle. I am still homosexual and my wife knows about it but still loves me all the same. We have raised two beautiful straight sons one of whom is getting ready to be deployed to Afganistan to serve his country. I am on excellent terms with Jesus. Cont...
@SouthernPreachers You have a big problem in that you choose to judge people instead of letting God do that. It is His domain, not yours. If you think it is your place to judge then that is blasphemy. You are so fixated on homosexuals and homosexuality being the root of all evil in this country that you are sounding like Hitler in his tirades against the Jews. Satan is alive and well and living in churches like yours and preachers like you. You really need to grow up, young man.
@SouthernPreachers You're the Biblical scholar. Give me the Scriptural verses where Jesus actually speaks about homosexuals. All He speaks about regarding sexuality is fornication and that applies to all of us.
Simply put... HOMO SEX IS AN ABOMINATION, A DAMNABLE SIN, A GROSS PERVERSION OF THE IMAGE OF GOD, GREVIOUS WICKEDNESS A MONSTOROUS EVIL A MANIFESTATION OF SUPREME REBELLION AGAINST A HOLY GOD A DENIAL OF ONES OWN PHYSICAL, NATURAL DESIGN AND THE HOLY INTENTED USE OF IT A REVELATION OF THE PERVERSE NATURE OF THE CORRUPTION WITHIN THE HEART, MIND AND SOUL A QUICKENING OF THE JUDGMENT OF GOD A HENIOUS LIE A SIN SO WHORISH THAT IT DESERVES ETERNAL DEATH UNHOLY, FILTHY, UNGODLY & SICK
Obviously you have a goal that isn't just to slander others. If that goal includes "helping" homosexuals to repent from their sins and choose a new path, then you are doing it in the worst possible way. Would you want help from someone calling you to quote, "pathetic, wicked, fool, wretched, perverse, etc," Yeah, that makes you approachable. And it is totally what Jesus would say to us! Rethink your strategy! =P
Kujoz, You are WRONG...absolutely, totally, completely wrong...homo sex is a perversion and a blatant, vile, damnable sin that invites the full displeasure and wrath of ALMIGHTY GOD. You damnable fools are like children that need to be spanked. Crazy people that seek out the most wicked, depravity known in the sordid history of man. Your GROSS SIN infects and affects the entire health of the nation like a cancer! Your are homosexual monsters of iniquity! Jesus HATES homo sex!
@kujoz WRONG...absolutely, totally, completely wrong...homo sex is a perversion and a blatant, vile, damnable sin that invites the full displeasure and wrath of ALMIGHTY GOD. You damnable fools are like children that need to be spanked. Crazy people that seek out the most wicked, depravity known in the sordid history of man. Your GROSS SIN infects and affects the entire health of the nation like a cancer! Your are homosexual monsters of iniquity!
@SouthernPreachers Okay, you are entitled your own opinion, and I understand that. However, the whole judgemental thing has got to stop. You're even suggesting punishment (the spanking lol). Remember that guy who suggested punishment for jews, blacks, and homosexuals a while back? Yeah, that is what your mentality perpetuates sadly. So, unless you are the perfect individual with absolutely no flaws, who has never sinned in his/her life, remember that only he without sin may cast the first stone.
Sexual orientation is never a choice, it's such a ridiculous statement to make. Homosexuals are at BEST 2nd class citizens and at worst they are beaten to death or left for dead for being gay. Why would anyone choose to be targets for violent hate crimes? Anyone who believes that homosexuality is a choice needs a reality check.
@Poochalot You SIINERS are so pathetic it is simply mind blowing. You HAVE NO EXCUSE for your wicked depravity. A depravity that you SINNERS FEELY CHOOSE...FREE WILL bubba...It is a FACT of life! And the same FREE WILL CHOICE you make to suck on another man's penis or get your rear end porked will COST you everything for it will CONDEMN your wicked soul to HELL. Your are your own worse enemy. You have nothing else to blame except yourself and your wretched, pathetic and perverse upbringing.
Mr. Dintiz, you obviously place yourself and those like you on the same level as a camel, donkey or rat...and I would expect you and those like you to behave as these wild animals do. You have, by your comments, demonstrated that your worldview and concept of mankind is that of a nineteenth century "scientific naturalist"...an atheist in the current vernacular. So, you are merely spouting your naturalistic belief system and justifying your SIN in the framework of your FALSE doctrine.
@Dintiz It isn't a choice, dogs and cats are born gay just as humans. If you think it is a choice that's great, but don't bring gay people down and make them feel bad by telling them what you believe to be true. If you are born not gay and liking penis was they way into heaven, I'm sure you would go to hell. The reason God made homosexuals was to cut down on population.
@Dintiz Hey Mr.Nature worshipping, demon possessed mad man...FYI, just because your pet dog starts humping you in the back yard does not mean that you pull your pants down and give the dog what it wants you moron! You homo freaks choose HELL, you choose pole smoking, you choose to get it in the rear! You are a wicked, diseased, foul stench in the nostrils of a Holy God and He is JUST in condemning your wicked soul to Hell.
@SouthernPreachers Ah, it's always nice to see a Christian who lives by the loving, tolerant, forgiving ways of Jesus Christ.
Seriously, this is why everyone hates the south. You couldn't be a more narrow-minded asshole if you tried. I wish you guys would just secede already. Honestly, no civil war this time, I promise. Just get the fuck out of our country you freedom hating terrorist!
Using the fear of burning in hell to manipulate people's thoughts and actions. That's called terrorism.
@Dintiz So Mr. DINTIZ you obviously place yourself and those like you on the same level as a camel, donkey or rat...and I would expect you and those like you to behave as these wild animals do. You have, by your comments, demonstrated that your worldview and concept of mankind is that of a nineteenth century "scientific naturalist"...an atheist in the current venacular. So, you are merely spouting your naturalistic belief system and justifying your SIN in the framework of your FALSE doctrine.
@Dintiz You obviously place yourself and those like you on the same level as a camel, donkey or rat...and I would expect you and those like you to behave as these wild animals do. You have, by your comments, demonstrated that your worldview and concept of mankind is that of a nineteenth century "scientific naturalist"...an atheist in the current vernacular. So, you are merely spouting your naturalistic belief system and justifying your SIN in the framework of your FALSE doctrine.
Zatchmo1988 You are obviously a lost atheist. You have no faith and what you do have is mere humanism. Unfortunately for you, it is not you that shall stand over the God of the Bible and Judge Him to be a false God, an unloving God or an unjust God. Rather, it is you who shall be judged by the God of the Bible aka (Jesus Christ) and He is the same one that will point His finger at you and say "Depart from Me you worker of iniquity" and you shall be thrust headlong into the inferno known as Hell.
Zatchmo1988 YOU are like the Muslim's in the way that you perceive the Lord Jesus Christ AMISS...you fail to SEE Him as the only begotton SON of GOD. When you fail to see Jesus the Christ as the Son of God and reject the Cross upon which He was crucified as well as His resurrection then your beliefs are exactly the same as those held by Muslim's. In which case you are blinded to the Truth and cut off from the Power of God. You are doomed to live a life of self gratitication and sin.
@SouthernPreachers So at what time did you sit down and decide you were straight? Even if you do believe that God does not like gay people, it is not up to you to tell them to change their ways, but God's to judge them in the afterlife. I'm not gay, but some people are. GET OVER IT!
@zatchmo1988 When I decided to turn my life over to the Lord Jesus he gave me a new life and that new life included a freedom that only comes from knowing the power of God. The power of God is able to deliver me from the power of sin, Hell and death itself. I am a superior being in this regard. I have Christ dwelling within me now and I no longer desire the carnal pleasures of a life of self serving, self gratification and self centeredness that once defined me. You must choose Christ over SELF.
@SouthernPreachers So people that are good that do all of those things and are not driven by self serving or self gratification are evil and going to hell because they dont believe in Jesus? What kind of a god would punish a good man because he doesnt hold the same belief as you?!
@SouthernPreachers ...and also, you didnt answer my question. Straight people dont sit down one day and choose to be straight, they're just born that way. You didnt decide on your own that women are more attractive to you than men, its just the neurons firing in your head. I have no desire to kiss guys. Thats me. Some people are born with the opposite (gay) desires. As you said in your video, you are not held responsible for the cards that you are dealt at birth. This should apply to gays too.
@zatchmo1988 The ANSWER to your question is right before your eyes but you refuse to SEE IT! Just like the ones that called for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ! They refused to SEE that He was the SON OF GOD. You are just like them so let me break it down for you. In my old life I had my own SELF CENTERED agenda, to please my CARNAL NATURE. I sought to please that sinful nature with SEXUAL SATISFACTION. According to your own doctrine, it does not matter if its male or female.
@zatchmo1988 WRONG CONCEPT AGAIN...You prove by your own words just exactly how lost, spiritually dead and separated from the LIVING GOD you really are...you are not "saved", you have not been "born again" you do not know the Lord Jesus Christ in a personal "saving" way, you do not have "saving" faith, you are not filled with the Spirit of Christ...your faulty, MAN centered, dead religious views are no different than those of a Muslim. You are cut off from the life of Christ and dead in your sin
@zatchmo1988 You fail to SEE or recognize the reality of the Power of God to utterly transform a sinner into a saint. You fail to SEE the Truth of God in the person of His only begotton Son Jesus the Christ. It is this singular FACT that groups you with the Muslim. Muslim's, like you, do not believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God or that He was crucified and rose again on the third day. Because you do not believe in the Biblical Jesus you cannot be saved by Him and thus you are LOST.
@SouthernPreachers first of all, the world is a terrible place because bigots like you group "muslims" with "muslim terrorists" and everyone else who is a non-christian. Secondly, you have just as much proof that christianity is the true religion, as jews say that judaism is the true religion, and as evoluntionists say that there is no god. by saying that you see god is like me saying i see, for example, budah. no one knows or will ever know. thus there is no proving or disproving any religion.
You homo loving, wicked, evil, corrupt offspring of satan know nothing! The BIBLE clearly teaches that SIN is a CHOICE...you make the CHOICE to participate in sexual conduct that qualifies you for HELLFIRE and DAMNATION! You have FREE WILL and by your own arguments you demonstrate that you have freely chosen to submit yourself to a life of immorality and perversion. YOU love your sinful life and you HATE the life of moral purity that Jesus requires of the faithful disciple. You are DOOMED!
Your theological concepts are full of flaws! The bible also states we are semenly present in the loins of Adam, meaning we are all born sinners, you sit there and say no one is born a sinner well study your scripture! I would also like to stay that very simple philosophical thought would show you how flawed your arguments about homosexuality are. We are created in Gods image meaning we have the ability to use logical thought, may i suggest you use yours.
@SouthernPreachers right before your eyes? Oh, sweet, so youve seen god? jesus? a supernatural miracle? no? then its not before your eyes. you were just born that way- a christian. if your parents were jewish, you'd be jewish. every person in your church is also christian because their parents are, and taught them their beliefs. you are only saying these things because of tradition. thats it. so dont go around saying your right and everyone else is wrong, because tradition doesnt dictate truth
if homosexualality is a choice then so is hetrosexualality. Though it isn't a choice. the only "choice" is wheather or not to act on FEELING, on desire. My opinion. so if you wanna reply telling me what you think, STOP, and think again, cause i dont care what you think, i just wanted to say what i thought. not looking for absolution or an argument ect ect ect.
@LilleyLawliet I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with you. I want to be able to make love to my wife but I cannot because I cannot feel anything physical for her. The only way I could get her pregnant was to fantasize about being with a young man. I couldn't keep it up, otherwise. I know you may wonder why I married her. I thought I could change, make a choice like SouthernPreachers indicates. Except, once we were married, I discovered that I was still gay. Still with her after 25 years, though.
homosexuality is the result of reprogramming the mind and body to abomination. mouth speaks and that is the design of mouth not to abomination like what homosexuals are doing.
dkatbena 2 weeks ago
The ONLY way homosexuality could be a choice is if our genes programmed us to be. If genes aren't the deciding factor, then our environment must be. Genes do NOT code for homosexuality, and here's why...
The purpose of a gene is to pass phenotypic information from parent to child. Since two members of the same gender cannot reproduce, the gene for homosexuality would in essence be "committing suicide" and would evolutionarily wipe itself out after so many generations
BlackFox0911 3 weeks ago
Aristotle believed in “natural order” for slavery because there are some people who are “slaves by nature,” a phrase found in his Politics.
Of all the ideas churned up during the early tumultuous years of American history, none had a more dramatic application than the attempts made to apply to the natives there the Aristotelian doctrine of natural slavery: that one part of mankind is set aside by nature to be slaves in the service of masters born for a life of virtue free of manual labour.
SouthernPreachers 3 weeks ago
"I understand that for many people it's not, but for me it's a choice, and you don't get to define my gayness for me, a certain section of our community is very concerned that it not be seen as a choice, because if it's a choice, then we could opt out. I say it doesn't matter if we flew here or we swam here, it matters that we are here and we are one group and let us stop trying to make a litmus test for who is considered gay and who is not." CYNTHIA NIXON
SouthernPreachers 1 month ago
I feel discriminated against because I am a proud white Christian. If I say that I am proud because I am a white person or a Christian, all sorts of people attack me. They ridicule my faith and insult my entire race. They believe they are better than I am because they are liberal, or non-white, or atheists, but why? Then they go on to say that they are tolerant and accepting, yet they refuse to accept me. I think I smell the stink of hypocrisy...
JCistGottMitUns 2 months ago
No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous.
- Lesbian author Camille Paglia, "Vamps and Tramps"
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Exactly, there is no predisposition to be gay. No gay genes, no gay sectors in the human brain. I hope they change and find God, and see the sickness of homosexuality.
Bllackguard666 6 months ago
@Bllackguard666 if i like what i like, it's not me choosing, is it? nope. if im a girl who likes girls, its because i LIKE girls. I never chose to, otherwise i would be straight so people would accept me.
vannehxx 5 months ago
The lesbian, gay, and bisexual community does not need to have its “deviance” tolerated because its members were born “that way” and “cannot help it.” Rather, society must recognize the validity of lesbian and gay lifestyles. We need an end to discrimination, an acceptance of all human beings, and a celebration of diversity, whatever its origins.
- Council for Genetic Research
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
The scientific argument for a biological basis for sexual orientation remains weak. The political argument that it will bolster gay pride or prevent homophobic bigotry runs counter to experience. - Council for Genetic Research
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Spiltzer is viewed as a historic champion of gay activism. Spitzer played a pivotal role in 1973 in removing homosexuality from the psychiatric manual of mental disorders
So, there you have it, the homo activist, pole smokers, want to justfy their perversion through political activism. Sodomites stormed the APA convention in 1973 and rammed their agenda down the collective throat of the APA through intimidation and scare tactics.
Homo sex is NOT genetic...there is no homo gene.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
The results of a study conducted by Dr. Robert L. Spitzer published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 32, No. 5, October 2003, pp. 403-417.
Spitzer's findings challenge the widely-held assumption that a homosexual orientation is "who one is" -- an intrinsic part of a person's identity that can never be changed. Spiltzer is viewed as a historic champion of gay activism. Spitzer played a pivotal role in 1973 in removing homosexuality from the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Prior to 1973, homosex appeared in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the official reference book used by the American Psychiatric Association for diagnosing mental disorders. Homosexuality was considered a sickness that doctors routinely treated. In 1973, however, it was removed as a sexual disorder, based on the claim that it did not fulfill the “distress and social disability” criteria that were used to define a disorder.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@PAC0SANCHEZ here's one thing you've forgotten. I'm a college professor at a private Catholic University, this means that I TEACH the next generation what science teaches, and you have no control over that. At my CATHOLIC University the students supported gay marriage in the 2008 election by a big margin. I had a lot to do with that. The dean of my school gave my husband and I a special wedding shower as well as his "blessing." Live with it, bigot. Calling me names shows your immaturity, Paco
lisztnut 6 months ago
YOU are a FAILURE as a CATHOLIC...you should be EXCOMMUNICATED for being a liberal nut case. YOU are the reason why so many CATHOLICS are LOST and on their way to HELL.
YOU are NOT saved and have absolutely no hope of heaven...YOU will burn in Hell forever....there is no such thing as purgatory. And you are a FALSE professor, poisoning your students mind with your false and misleading ethics. Your ethics are manmade and based upon the work of Joseph Fletcher at best.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@lisztnut Hey NUT job, news flash...You Have Absolutely NO, None, Zip, Zilch "scientific" data to "prove" that homo sex perversion is genetic.
Homo Sex Perversion is a CHOICE pure and simple.
The APA was forced by homo activist to remove homo sex perversion from the Blue Book...it is a historical FACT. An inconvenient truth for those who subscribe to the religion of homo sex perversion.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers sexual orientation isn't a belief system, and neither is being male or female, you dickwad. You are such an ignorant twit. And I posted a dozen studies on here showing a link between homosexuality and genetics. If you can't read or educate yourself i can't do it for you. The EVIDENCE is HERE! It's up to you to open your small bible mind and do some research and EDUCATE your fucking mind.
lisztnut 6 months ago
A handful of studies published during the 1990s have claimed to offer evidence in favor of a biological or genetic cause for homosexuality. Three of these in particular—a study of brain structure by Simon LeVay, a study of twins by J. Michael Bailey and Richard C. Pillard, and a study of “gene linkage” and “gene markers” by a team led by Dean H. Hamer—attracted considerable media attention and are largely responsible for the popular belief that a “gay gene” has already been found.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
One highly publicized study that purported to demonstrate this was conducted in 1991 by former Salk Institute researcher Simon LeVay. LeVay studied the brains of cadavers, including 18 men known to have been homosexual and one known to have been bisexual. He compared them with the brains of another 16 men and six women whom he presumed to have been heterosexual.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
LeVay’s manufactured hypothalamus study received widespread media attention and as a result catapulted the idea that some men are born “gay” into prominence. Although the misinformed still quote the study today as proof that men who have sex with men are born “gay,” it was actually discredited shortly after its release.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
The following are some of the study’s problems.
First, LeVay compared the brains of 19 men who had sex with men and died of AIDS (which is known to ravage the brain) with the brains of 13 men whose sexual habits he did not know. It is therefore impossible to draw any conclusion from his study.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
The following are some of the study’s problems.
First, LeVay compared the brains of 19 men who had sex with men and died of AIDS (which is known to ravage the brain) with the brains of 13 men whose sexual habits he did not know. It is therefore impossible to draw any conclusion from his study.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Second, although LeVay argued that a small INAH3 (hypothalamus) “caused” men to be “gay,” some of the men that, according to his guess work, had sex with men, had an INAH3 (hypothalamus) that was larger than the average size of the INAH3 of the “supposed” men who had sex with women. Furthermore, some of the men who had sex with women had an INAH3 that was smaller than those of the “supposed” men who had sex with men. So, some of his “gay” subjects should have been straight, and vice-versa.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Third, the results of the Hypothalamus study are not repeatable.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Fourth, Simon LeVay himself, admitted that the study was inconclusive in 2001, “It’s important to stress what I didn’t find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn’t show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain.” (as quoted in Byrd, et al., 2001, emp. added). Simon LeVay’s hypothalamus study confused the public.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society. From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@lisztnut YOU are deceived...and a deceiver! Note*
The American Psychological Association (APA) has just released its “Task Force Report on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation” (August 2009), a report issued by five psychologists and one psychiatrist who are all activists in gay causes.
FACT: The Task Force was composed entirely of activists in gay causes, most of whom are also personally gay, goes a long way toward explaining their failure to be scientifically objective.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers for the record, I have presented a huge body of EVIDENCE on this thread which confirms that homosexuality is a result of genetics, hormones and the early uterine environment. If you choose to ignore this evidence it only shows that your mind has been corrupted by your narrow religious beliefs. Just like you don't believe in the scientific FACT that evolution HAPPENED. Get over it.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@lisztnut What evidence? NOTHING, ZIP, ZILCH, NATTA
Evan S. Balaban, a neurobiologist at the Neurosciences Institute in San Diego, noted that
the search for the biological underpinnings of complex human traits has a sorry history of late. In recent years, researchers and the media have proclaimed the “discovery” of genes linked to alcoholism and mental illness as well as to homosexuality. None of the claims...has been confirmed (as quoted in Horgan, 1995).
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Dear @SouthernPreachers can you please answer these questions
1_If Sodom and Gomorrah were gay, how come they were reproducing ? I'm not Christian, but I think Sodom and Gomorrah didn't extinct because they couldn't reproduce, but because god punished them, so we need to assume that Sodom and Gomorrah men were getting married to the opposite sex (otherwise how come they reproduced)
2_Bible has violence aspect and tolerance aspect, why do you only take the violence aspect ?
Thank you
simon1430 7 months ago 2
Look at all the liberal comments here and see for yourself the utter hypocrisy of the pole smoking left. These are the same people that scream "Don't judge" and "Judge Not" all the time...but here we have a perfect example of just how hypocritical they really are.
SouthernPreachers 7 months ago
@SouthernPreachers homosexuality is not something that can be judged. Nor is being born female or black. It is morally NEUTRAL.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Preacher man, why did you say "liberal" in reference to people who say that homosexuality isn't a choice? Are you claiming that all "conservatives' are ignorant of what science actually says about this issue? Oh, my bad, never mind.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@chadwick0091 I CHALLENGE YOU TO PRODUCE YOUR SO CALLED "SCIENTIFIC" EVIDENCE...
SouthernPreachers 7 months ago
@SouthernPreachers The Royal College of Psychiatrists states:
" Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person's sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. It is therefore not a choice."
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers if you want to read an extensive scientific article about the biology of sexual orientation I recommend you google this:
Is it a Choice? The Science of Sexual Orientation, libertyeducationforum org
lisztnut 6 months ago
The “Gay” Gene Study Probably most influential study reported a “gay” gene and was conducted in 1993, by a homo sex pervert. Dr. Dean Hamer (homo) and his team of geneticists at the National Cancer Institute. Hamer the HOMO and his colleagues reported that a “gay” gene seemed to be maternally linked and could be found on the Xq28 stretch of the X chromosome.
NO political homo agenda here is there...
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Immediately after the Hamer HOMO study was published a media explosion ensued, but like the LeVay study before it, Hamer’s study was discredited as both biased and corrupt. In fact, the title of an article appearing in the same-gender sex magazine, New York Native, illustrates this fact well. The article is titled: ‘Gay Gene’ Research Doesn’t Hold Under Scrutiny, Chicago Tribune’s John Crewdson Uncovers Possible Scientific Misconduct by NCI Researcher.” (New York Native, 7-10-95, p.25)
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
In addition to the political and social firestorm HOMO Hamer’s research has ignited, he has also been criticized by numerous scientists for not performing what seems to be an obvious control experiment: examining the genes of heterosexual brothers. Those scientists, including two prominent geneticist/biologists at Harvard University [Richard Lewontin and Ruth Hubbard], were not government researchers.” (New York Native 7-10-95, p.28)
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
Even worse for HOMO Hamer, the National Institute of Health’s Office of Research Integrity investigated his ‘gay gene’ research and found that HOMO Hamer manipulated the data reported to NIH’s integrity office by a junior researcher who performed research crucial to HOMO Hamer’s claimed discovery... (New York Native 7-10-95, p.28,)
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
HOMO Hamer deliberately and deceitfully excluded pairs of brothers whose genetic makeup contradicted his pre-planned experimental outcome. NIH never released the results of the inquiry, but Hamer was shortly thereafter transferred to another section. He had done the “gay” gene research under a grant to work on Kaposi’s Sarcoma, a skin cancer that inordinately afflicts homosexual men.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers
The American Academy of Pediatrics states:
"The current literature and most scholars in the field state that one's sexual orientation is not a choice; that is, individuals do not choose to be homosexual or heterosexual. There is no scientific evidence that abnormal parenting, sexual abuse, or other adverse life events influence sexual orientation,"
Did you read that Preacher? There is NO evidence that early family environment plays ANY role in sexual orientation. NONE!
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Researchers do not expect, and have never expected, to find a single master
“gay gene.” Research shows many biological pathways which may lead to a
same-sex orientation, including genes, hormone levels and the prenatal environment
in the mother’s womb.
lisztnut 6 months ago
lisztnut 6 months ago
Homosexuality is NOT an in born trait or something that is genetically FIXED at birth.
Homosexuality is NOT something that is a product of a bio-molecular marker, a specific arrangement of amino acids within the double helix of DNA. It CANNOT be identified by a certain, specific strand of DNA at birth nor detected at birth. It CANNOT be determined by analysis of or evaluation of DNA. Same sex attraction is a product of environmental influences such as your FAMILY upbringing. You are sick...
SouthernPreachers 7 months ago
@SouthernPreachers WOW! way to copy and paste the same comment from a week ago. homosexual behavior is a choice (obviously). however, i've heard scientific evidence that contradicts what you said.
chadwick0091 7 months ago
@chadwick0091 I CHALLENGE YOU TO PRODUCE YOUR SO CALLED "SCIENTIFIC" EVIDENCE...
SouthernPreachers 7 months ago
@SouthernPreachers okay, first of all, STOP TALKING IN ALL CAPS. IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT. secondly, just out of curiosity, are you the person that's talking in the video?
chadwick0091 7 months ago
@SouthernPreachers What you just said also applies for hetrosexuality, does that make it a choice too? no it doesn't. LOVE is an uncontrollable feature of life, if you can't stand that then YOU'RE sick.
Sploggez 7 months ago
@SouthernPreachers So, if same sex attraction is a product of environmental influences during your upbringing, doesn't that mean its not a choice? Also, if you have proof that sexual attraction is not decided during fetal development, I would love to see it.
theguythatplaysbass 7 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Bailey, J. M.; Pillard, R. C. “A genetic study of male sexual orientation” Archives
of General Psychiatry 48: 1089-1096, 1991
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Bailey, J. M.; Pillard, R. C.; Neale, M. C.; Agyei, Y. “Heritable factors influence
sexual orientation in women” Archives of General Psychiatry 50: 217-223, 1993
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Blanchard, R., Cantor, J.M., Bogaert, A.F., Breedlove, S.M., & Ellis, L.
“Interaction of fraternal birth order and handedness in the development of
male homosexuality.” Hormones & Behavior, 49: 405-414, 2006
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Bocklandt, S.; Horvath, S.; Vilain, E.; Hamer, D. H. “Extreme skewing of X chromosome
inactivation in mothers of homosexual men” Human Genetics 118:
691-694, 2006
Camperio-Ciani, A.; Corna, F.; Capiluppi, C. “Evidence for maternally inherited
factors favouring male homosexuality and promoting female fecundity.”
Proceedings Biological Sciences/ The Royal Society 271: 2217-2221, 2004
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Hamer, D. H.; Hu, S.; Magnuson, V. L.; Hu, N.; Pattatucci, A. M. L. “A linkage
between DNA markers on the X chromosome and male sexual orientation.”
Science 261: 321-327, 1993
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Hu, S.; Pattatucci, A. M. L.; Patterson, C.; Li, L.; Fulker, D. W.; Cherny, S. S.;
Kruglyak, L.; Hamer, D. H. “Linkage between sexual orientation and chromosome
Xq28 in males but not in females.” Nature Genetics 11: 248-256, 1995
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Pillard, R. C.; Weinrich, J. D. : “Evidence of familial nature of male homosexuality.”
Archives of General Psychiatry 43: 808-812, 1986.
Puts, D.A., Jordan, C.L. & Breedlove, S.M.; “O brother where art thou? The fraternal
birth-order effect on male sexual orientation.” Proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences of the United States 103: 10531-10532, 2006
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Preacher man, is that enough scientific evidence for you that homosexuality IS biological and not a choice, nor the result of environmental factors? Care to read more? Google:
Is it a Choice? The Science of Sexual Orientation, libertyeducationforum org
lisztnut 6 months ago
@tongxinlian8911 I feel genuinely sorry for you. I do not want to bully you or anything but you should not want to be a homosexual. Homosexuality is a choice and a sin. If homosexuality was at all ok why can two men not make babies?
TheIphone4thewin 8 months ago
@TheIphone4thewin please explain why you think gay people can't procreate. Last I checked my penis operates the same way as any heterosexual. And, who wouldn't want to be gay, even IF it were a choice, considering the fact that gay men outperform straight men in income levels, education, travel and quality and frequency of sex? If homosexuality is so bad, why are some of mankind's highest achievements the work of gay men? Mona Lisa, statue of David, Socratic teaching method, etc.
lisztnut 6 months ago
We have always been a natural and beautiful piece of the human experience. Our love is as good and as healthy as anyone else's. I did not choose to be gay, but I'm thankful every day that I was created this way. I wonder what lies I might believe about gay people if I'd been born straight?
tongxinglian8911 8 months ago 5
Homosexuality is NOT an in born trait or something that is genetically FIXED at birth.
Homosexuality is NOT something that is a product of a bio-molecular marker, a specific arrangement of amino acids within the double helix of DNA. It CANNOT be identified by a certain, specific strand of DNA at birth nor detected at birth. It CANNOT be determined by analysis of or evaluation of DNA. Same sex attraction is a product of environmental influences such as your FAMILY upbringing. You are sick...
SouthernPreachers 8 months ago
@SouthernPreachers OF COURSE it's not in the DNA, that would mean their parents would be gay too, which they aren't because they wouldn't have children if they were. Why is every argument against homosexuality religious? I'm sick of this. Who are you to decide for gays what they feel. THEY are the ones experiencing it. How old were you when you chose to be straight? Can you remember that? Because you must have considered being gay before you chose to be straight. You chose the right path right?
BlackRainbows1123 8 months ago 2
@SouthernPreachers oh my god, your ignorance is staggering to me. No, homosexuality isn't in our DNA, nor is heterosexuality, for that matter. it is just like left handedness, a complex characteristic with multiple biological factors involved, including hormones and the uterine environment. The notion that sexual orientation is influenced by environmental factors has been soundly dismissed.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers consider this fact: Swedish scientists say they are very close to being able to predict sexual orientation BEFORE birth using brain size measurements: What the Gay Brain Looks Like, Alice Park, time com, 2008
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers There is evidence of a pattern of maternal transmission for male homosexuality
(for it being “passed down” by unknown means through the mother’s
side of the family.)
• The heritability of sexual orientation is estimated between 30% and 50%.3
By comparison, the heritability of left-handedness is estimated at 26% or
lower.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Significant genetic linkage to male homosexuality has been found on the X
Chromosome at Xq284 and on Chromosome 7 at 7q36,5 with two additional
regions (8p12 and 10q26) identified as areas of interest for future study.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Male identical twins are more likely than non-identical twins or ordinary
siblings to share the same sexual orientation. Siblings are more likely to
share the same orientation than non-siblings.
• The sexual orientation of adopted children is not influenced by that of their
adoptive parents, which points to biology rather than upbringing as the
defining influence.
lisztnut 6 months ago
homosexuality occurs in over 425 different species. homophobia occurs in just one. us
tysonvslewis12 8 months ago 15
@tysonvslewis12 Heterosexuality occurs in almost all species in the Animal kingdom.
The ability to make an intelligence decision that effects the social aspects of their life occurs in just one.
Us.
PAC0SANCHEZ 7 months ago
@PAC0SANCHEZ if heterosexual are so "intelligent' in their choice in the social aspects of life, please explain why heterosexuals are exclusively responsible for:
1 abortion
2 teen pregnancy
3 abandoned and unwanted children Homosexuals have nothing to do with this, and we often adopt children from FAILED heterosexuals. Think about it. Homosexuals procreate too, but we just do it responsibly.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@lisztnut
Of course people who choose homo cant have babies.
Dick+Dick/Vagina+Vagina dont make a baby, therefore they cant have an abortion or get pregnant during adolescence.
Homos adopt a child, if they didnt want the child then they wouldnt adopt it.
All your points have been countered, and you look like a dumbass.
Are you saying that heterosexuality is wrong?
PAC0SANCHEZ 6 months ago
@PAC0SANCHEZ no, I'm saying that sexual orientation, whether it be homosexual or heterosexual, isn't a "moral" issue. It is no more wrong to be homosexual that it is to be left handed or have red hair. It's merely a minority, and sorry you can't understand that simple concept, Paco.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@PAC0SANCHEZ gay people CAN and do have biological children. Homosexual orientation has nothing to do with procreation. Does it mean that I can have children with my husband? No, and it's a convenient fact that we don't WANT children. We are two highly busy professionals, who wouldn't have time for this. And, please tell me why you think having babies is a good thing. I'm all ears. I see in my sibling's lives that it has been a bad thing for them. They have no life of their own.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@lisztnut
Spreading your genes?
Thats kinda the whole point (as we know right now) of all life.
My theory is that organisms are built to create more, and spread the life.
If an organism just lived and died of age, there was no point in them being alive anyway.
Humans realize that we dont need to follow instinct.
We can influence the world in other ways, creating babies is no longer necessary.
Theres already a ton of people here anyway. Does it matter to you if your genes die?
PAC0SANCHEZ 6 months ago
@PAC0SANCHEZ Whether my genes live or die is of no concern to me. Why should it be, Paco? What is important in life is what we ACCOMPLISH with the lives we have. Too many teen girls get pregnant because they think it will give their life "meaning." Instead, they end up having NO life for the next 20 years. And, if you are serious about understanding why homosexuality is biologically NECESSARY for the species read this:
Conundrum: The Evolution of Homosexuality by NJ Peters
lisztnut 6 months ago
@PAC0SANCHEZ in fact, did it matter that Beethoven and Michaelangelo had no children? Hell no! It it what a person DOES with their lives that matters. I think you come from a different culture than me. My parents didn't raise me to have any desire to procreate. I was raised white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant, NOT Catholic and Mexican.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@PAC0SANCHEZ I didn't mean to disrespect Mexicans, I'm just saying it's a cultural difference we have. In my culture having kids is not considered "essential" to our happiness. In fact, my heterosexual sister and her husband didn't even attempt to have kids until they were married for more than ten years and they had only ONE child, because they didn't want more than that. They procreated RESPONSIBLY, and that's why I'm proud of my sister. She's my hero.
lisztnut 6 months ago
@tysonvslewis12 great comment! i would add that your figures of homosexuality in the animal kingdom are quite underestimated. It is closer to 7000 species of animals that have been documented as mating with same sex partners. But, the studies have not been completed in all animals species, as that will take a long time, and funding is scare for such study. Guess who has tried to quell this field of research? The religious right, of course!
lisztnut 6 months ago
@tysonvslewis12
Just because ANIMALS behave like ANIMALS does not give human beings, created with the capacity to make moral choices, the platform or basis upon which he or she can then justify that course of action which is a perversion of nature.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@tysonvslewis12 You cannot justify your homo sex perversion by pointing at a heard of swine and saying "see, look at those perverted pigs, if they can do it then so can I..."
Justifying your behavior by comparing yourself with animals just proves that you are wicked and no better than a dumb ass.
SouthernPreachers 6 months ago
@logoRH, I take it you are implying there's some contradiction there? There's not. The Numbers passage, actually running from verses 13-26 is telling you that whatever God decrees will come to pass. In the Exodus passage, Moses' appeal to God succeeded because God had only threatened judgement, not decreed it. Stupid is reading 2 sentences from 2 books, disconnected from their contexts and thinking you can make sense of it. Take some time and read whole books, friend.
elijahhascome12 8 months ago
Religion is a choice.
Yetaxa 8 months ago
Yes, be afraid, I might bite your neck in a line at the store and you become gay. Every time you go to a store, I might be the motherfucker standing right behind you.
Are these people really AFRAID of homosexual people?
I am bisexual myself and I rather turn completely into homosexual, because I only have physical attraction to women, but I can not see myself being in a relationship with a woman.
Ileko1 8 months ago
Common sense tells me u should take all the bible or none of it.
elijahhascome12 8 months ago
@Mymagic - and what about what Jesus said about being able to know them by their fruits, and about judging righteously, and about false believers, and about the need to stop sinning, or how about we get the completed statement that you referred to where He said after you have removed the plank from your own eye then you'll see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's?
elijahhascome12 8 months ago
To see you so openly hate against innocent people makes me feel horrible inside. God is not a weapon. And you know what?You're all horrible, nasty people. To disregard the fact that this can be proven with science, and to just say 'We'll be the salt in their wound'.You're going to hurt and punish innocent people just because of their sexual orientation?You ignorant, horrible people.If God truly saw fault within our world, he would come forth.You are taking things into your own hands. Wrongly.
Spectra979 8 months ago
So you're saying we should get rid of homosexuality because it's not natural? Guess what else is not natural? Medicine. And guess what? They WERE born that way. It has been proven by science. It's not a choice.Anyone who wants me to prove it, just comment back and I'll prove it with science. And the bible is stupid. It also says divorce should be punished by death (It says divorce is adultry, and it says adultry should be punished by death) It also supports SLAVERY.Where do you get your morals?
Spectra979 8 months ago
@Spectra979 it also says that women with periods is unnatural...um LOL. It's hard to think that humans came up with this crap. -_-
Sploggez 7 months ago
you're a fucking moron. I hope you get cancer because you deserve it. if God hates anyone, it's you. fucking cunt.
Anamewouldbenice69 9 months ago
Btw, I've got your seat saved in hell. Cool?
SlaterToole 9 months ago
Whatever "God" you claim to serve is not my Jesus of the New and Old testament. He was and is a very loving person. Seeing you be the exact opposite brings a tear to my eye. Do not judge someone because they are sinning in your eyes. God says that all sins are equally wrong. So why did you cut your hair and trim your beard? Because you're not supposed to do that according to the Word. Why did you eat unclean meat? Sinner. Get your facts right before you tell me what MY god thinks of your "god."
SlaterToole 9 months ago
So if homosexuality is a choice, then everyone is gay, they just choose otherwise?
Hec7orGunzal 9 months ago
Idc whether you're right or wrong but your words and insults are filled with hate and that is not of God at all...This is coming from a completely heterosexual male...you should be ashamed of yourself...
torrej08 9 months ago
In John 12, Jesus said the words He's already spoken would be His measurement at judgement. In Acts 9 Jesus said He chose Paul to bring His message to the Gentiles. In 1 Corinthians 6, and Romans 1, Paul (bringing Jesus' message) talks about homosexuality as a sin. Deferring to what the judge has already decided is not judging. With sincere love, I truly hope this brief message may call someone to repentance.
elijahhascome12 9 months ago
@mymagic111 - Jesus never spoke about bestiality either, do you think that means it's ok for me to come over and boink your dog?
elijahhascome12 9 months ago
@elijahhascome12 Use a little common sense, but if you want to do that, you're welcome to it. However, my dog might have something to say about it. Too many so-called Christians are getting so 'high and mighty' about how others' behavior that they forget about their own. It boils down to what Jesus said about taking care of the plank in your own eye before bitching about the splinter in your neighbor's eye.
MyMagic111 8 months ago
@nykchicks - science has definitely not proven that. Name the scientists and research project which have definitively "proven" this like you said. At one time many thought Ptolomeic science was proven. Does that make it so?
elijahhascome12 9 months ago
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MyMagic111 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Is anyone without sin? And does god weigh any sin worse than another? Last time I checked, "False Testimony" was on the same two tablets as "Adultery". And are you in any position to be judging people? God is supposed to be the one whose job that is. You're pointing the finger, and I'm pointing you to the mirror.
ThePikachusLunch 9 months ago
Simply put... HOMO SEX IS AN ABOMINATION, A DAMNABLE SIN, A GROSS PERVERSION OF THE IMAGE OF GOD, GREVIOUS WICKEDNESS A MONSTOROUS EVIL A MANIFESTATION OF SUPREME REBELLION AGAINST A HOLY GOD A DENIAL OF ONES OWN PHYSICAL, NATURAL DESIGN AND THE HOLY INTENDED USE OF IT A REVELATION OF THE PERVERSE NATURE OF THE CORRUPTION WITHIN THE HEART, MIND AND SOUL A QUICKENING OF THE JUDGMENT OF GOD A HENIOUS LIE A SIN SO WHORISH THAT IT DESERVES ETERNAL DEATH UNHOLY, FILTHY, UNGODLY & SICK
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers How about a church that pickets the funeral of a young straight American serviceman who was killed in Iraq solely because they were protesting the governments allowing homosexuals to have freedoms in this country? You Southern fundamentalists are the ones who are immoral. You focus on an obscure line in an Old Testament book that should be excised from Scripture for all that it is relevant in today's society. Continued. . .
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@MyMagic111 I will go toe to toe with any of you homo loving, sin infested, sin justifying, unholy, neo-evangelical, biblically illiterate masturbators any day of the week...prepare for a spanking.
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Continued. . . You preachers should listen to yourselves and hear Satan in your speech.. Do you ever ask yourselves before you speak, 'What would Jesus say, here?' I believe that if Jesus was to show up in your Church, you would not recognise Him because He most likely would not fit into the narrow view what a non-sinner should be. Your way of thinking has been shaped by years and years of twisted ideas. I think you will find your 'paradise' quite warm when you get there.
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@MyMagic111 The Jesus you claim to worship does not exist anywhere other than in your wicked, sin filled, sin justifying imagination...
Your "Jesus" would more properly be called by the name CUPID so please make that correction.
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers What better places for Satan to grab souls are in the churches where people are such sheep they will accept as 'gospel' whatever drivel that pours out their preachers mouth. Jesus never said anything against homosexuals. He gave us the directive to not FORNICATE! That means everybody whether straight or gay. I don't see you picketing about extra-marital sex. How many unborn children are killed each year because a straight unmarried couple fornicated? Get real!
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@MyMagic111 OH PLEASE..."Jesus never said anything about homos..." You are Biblically illiterate! You have revealed that you are a raving mad LIBERAL...a member of the church of the Fallen. A false disciple, a false witness, a false professor, a false teacher and obviously a disciple of Rob (I'm heading to HELL) Bell and most likely a member of church of the deceived.
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers How arrogant you are that you think you know the mind of God? How do you know that He did not create homosexuals to give them this trial to bear in this life? How do you know that He did not intend this for them so they can be tested with the difficulties that go along with this life to help them grow in spirit? When one goes through hardship and survive, one tends to be much stronger. How do you know that this is not what God intend for these special people? Shame on you!
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@MyMagic111 MORON ALERT!!! BIBLICAL ILLITERATES SHOULD NOT BE SPEWING FORTH THEIR IGNORANCE FOR ALL TO SEE...
1 COR 3:16 ..."we have the mind of Christ."
YES...I KNOW THE MIND OF GOD.
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers One more thing. Check out Mike Hauser's blog here on Youtube: Biblical Jesus vs Churchy Jesus. It is an eye-opener. You have a choice (there's that word again.) You can watch it an learn something and grow as a Christian, if you really want to be a Christian; or you can choose not to watch it and continue to stagnate in the erroneous teachings of your churches traditions. I pray for your sake that you make the right choice.
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@MyMagic111 The Lord SAYS to YOU
Hosea 9:9 They (YOU) have deeply corrupted themselves (YOURSELF), as in the days of Gibeah: therefore HE will remember (YOUR) their iniquity, he will visit their (YOUR) sins.
Hosea 9:10 ...but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations (HOMO SEX PERVERSIONS) were according as they loved.
Hosea 9:14 Give them (HER), O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them (HER) a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Tell me, how many years have you been married? How many children have you raised? I have been married more than 25 years since I gave up trying to find spiritual satisfaction in living a gay lifestyle. I am still homosexual and my wife knows about it but still loves me all the same. We have raised two beautiful straight sons one of whom is getting ready to be deployed to Afganistan to serve his country. I am on excellent terms with Jesus. Cont...
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers You have a big problem in that you choose to judge people instead of letting God do that. It is His domain, not yours. If you think it is your place to judge then that is blasphemy. You are so fixated on homosexuals and homosexuality being the root of all evil in this country that you are sounding like Hitler in his tirades against the Jews. Satan is alive and well and living in churches like yours and preachers like you. You really need to grow up, young man.
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers You're the Biblical scholar. Give me the Scriptural verses where Jesus actually speaks about homosexuals. All He speaks about regarding sexuality is fornication and that applies to all of us.
MyMagic111 9 months ago
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
Those of you with the hateful comments:
Obviously you have a goal that isn't just to slander others. If that goal includes "helping" homosexuals to repent from their sins and choose a new path, then you are doing it in the worst possible way. Would you want help from someone calling you to quote, "pathetic, wicked, fool, wretched, perverse, etc," Yeah, that makes you approachable. And it is totally what Jesus would say to us! Rethink your strategy! =P
kujoz 9 months ago
Kujoz, You are WRONG...absolutely, totally, completely wrong...homo sex is a perversion and a blatant, vile, damnable sin that invites the full displeasure and wrath of ALMIGHTY GOD. You damnable fools are like children that need to be spanked. Crazy people that seek out the most wicked, depravity known in the sordid history of man. Your GROSS SIN infects and affects the entire health of the nation like a cancer! Your are homosexual monsters of iniquity! Jesus HATES homo sex!
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
Do something useful and run a homeless shelter or food pantry. There are REAL problems out there to solve. Homosexuality is not one of them.
kujoz 9 months ago
@kujoz WRONG...absolutely, totally, completely wrong...homo sex is a perversion and a blatant, vile, damnable sin that invites the full displeasure and wrath of ALMIGHTY GOD. You damnable fools are like children that need to be spanked. Crazy people that seek out the most wicked, depravity known in the sordid history of man. Your GROSS SIN infects and affects the entire health of the nation like a cancer! Your are homosexual monsters of iniquity!
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Okay, you are entitled your own opinion, and I understand that. However, the whole judgemental thing has got to stop. You're even suggesting punishment (the spanking lol). Remember that guy who suggested punishment for jews, blacks, and homosexuals a while back? Yeah, that is what your mentality perpetuates sadly. So, unless you are the perfect individual with absolutely no flaws, who has never sinned in his/her life, remember that only he without sin may cast the first stone.
kujoz 9 months ago
Sexual orientation is never a choice, it's such a ridiculous statement to make. Homosexuals are at BEST 2nd class citizens and at worst they are beaten to death or left for dead for being gay. Why would anyone choose to be targets for violent hate crimes? Anyone who believes that homosexuality is a choice needs a reality check.
Poochalot 9 months ago
@Poochalot You SIINERS are so pathetic it is simply mind blowing. You HAVE NO EXCUSE for your wicked depravity. A depravity that you SINNERS FEELY CHOOSE...FREE WILL bubba...It is a FACT of life! And the same FREE WILL CHOICE you make to suck on another man's penis or get your rear end porked will COST you everything for it will CONDEMN your wicked soul to HELL. Your are your own worse enemy. You have nothing else to blame except yourself and your wretched, pathetic and perverse upbringing.
SouthernPreachers 9 months ago
Lmao this is hysterical.
emmactress1894 10 months ago
Mr. Dintiz, you obviously place yourself and those like you on the same level as a camel, donkey or rat...and I would expect you and those like you to behave as these wild animals do. You have, by your comments, demonstrated that your worldview and concept of mankind is that of a nineteenth century "scientific naturalist"...an atheist in the current vernacular. So, you are merely spouting your naturalistic belief system and justifying your SIN in the framework of your FALSE doctrine.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@hyperlimabean hOW CAN ITS BE A CHOICE TO
hate someone
But not to love somone?
malik51398 10 months ago
It is not a choice, no man or woman chooses to be hated and beaten and killed.
smurfboywv 10 months ago
@smurfboywv It's called FREE WILL Mr. Smurf boy...You make the CHOICE to pull your pants down!
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers You're an idiot.
smurfboywv 10 months ago
@Dintiz It isn't a choice, dogs and cats are born gay just as humans. If you think it is a choice that's great, but don't bring gay people down and make them feel bad by telling them what you believe to be true. If you are born not gay and liking penis was they way into heaven, I'm sure you would go to hell. The reason God made homosexuals was to cut down on population.
Dintiz 10 months ago
@Dintiz Hey Mr.Nature worshipping, demon possessed mad man...FYI, just because your pet dog starts humping you in the back yard does not mean that you pull your pants down and give the dog what it wants you moron! You homo freaks choose HELL, you choose pole smoking, you choose to get it in the rear! You are a wicked, diseased, foul stench in the nostrils of a Holy God and He is JUST in condemning your wicked soul to Hell.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Ah, it's always nice to see a Christian who lives by the loving, tolerant, forgiving ways of Jesus Christ.
Seriously, this is why everyone hates the south. You couldn't be a more narrow-minded asshole if you tried. I wish you guys would just secede already. Honestly, no civil war this time, I promise. Just get the fuck out of our country you freedom hating terrorist!
Using the fear of burning in hell to manipulate people's thoughts and actions. That's called terrorism.
MrFkWhatever 10 months ago
@Dintiz So Mr. DINTIZ you obviously place yourself and those like you on the same level as a camel, donkey or rat...and I would expect you and those like you to behave as these wild animals do. You have, by your comments, demonstrated that your worldview and concept of mankind is that of a nineteenth century "scientific naturalist"...an atheist in the current venacular. So, you are merely spouting your naturalistic belief system and justifying your SIN in the framework of your FALSE doctrine.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@Dintiz You obviously place yourself and those like you on the same level as a camel, donkey or rat...and I would expect you and those like you to behave as these wild animals do. You have, by your comments, demonstrated that your worldview and concept of mankind is that of a nineteenth century "scientific naturalist"...an atheist in the current vernacular. So, you are merely spouting your naturalistic belief system and justifying your SIN in the framework of your FALSE doctrine.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@Dintiz I thought the same thing, if everyone was straight, the world would be tooo populated and people would starve more than they are today.
smurfboywv 10 months ago
Zatchmo1988 You are obviously a lost atheist. You have no faith and what you do have is mere humanism. Unfortunately for you, it is not you that shall stand over the God of the Bible and Judge Him to be a false God, an unloving God or an unjust God. Rather, it is you who shall be judged by the God of the Bible aka (Jesus Christ) and He is the same one that will point His finger at you and say "Depart from Me you worker of iniquity" and you shall be thrust headlong into the inferno known as Hell.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
Zatchmo1988 YOU are like the Muslim's in the way that you perceive the Lord Jesus Christ AMISS...you fail to SEE Him as the only begotton SON of GOD. When you fail to see Jesus the Christ as the Son of God and reject the Cross upon which He was crucified as well as His resurrection then your beliefs are exactly the same as those held by Muslim's. In which case you are blinded to the Truth and cut off from the Power of God. You are doomed to live a life of self gratitication and sin.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers So at what time did you sit down and decide you were straight? Even if you do believe that God does not like gay people, it is not up to you to tell them to change their ways, but God's to judge them in the afterlife. I'm not gay, but some people are. GET OVER IT!
zatchmo1988 10 months ago
@zatchmo1988 When I decided to turn my life over to the Lord Jesus he gave me a new life and that new life included a freedom that only comes from knowing the power of God. The power of God is able to deliver me from the power of sin, Hell and death itself. I am a superior being in this regard. I have Christ dwelling within me now and I no longer desire the carnal pleasures of a life of self serving, self gratification and self centeredness that once defined me. You must choose Christ over SELF.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers So people that are good that do all of those things and are not driven by self serving or self gratification are evil and going to hell because they dont believe in Jesus? What kind of a god would punish a good man because he doesnt hold the same belief as you?!
zatchmo1988 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers ...and also, you didnt answer my question. Straight people dont sit down one day and choose to be straight, they're just born that way. You didnt decide on your own that women are more attractive to you than men, its just the neurons firing in your head. I have no desire to kiss guys. Thats me. Some people are born with the opposite (gay) desires. As you said in your video, you are not held responsible for the cards that you are dealt at birth. This should apply to gays too.
zatchmo1988 10 months ago
@zatchmo1988 The ANSWER to your question is right before your eyes but you refuse to SEE IT! Just like the ones that called for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ! They refused to SEE that He was the SON OF GOD. You are just like them so let me break it down for you. In my old life I had my own SELF CENTERED agenda, to please my CARNAL NATURE. I sought to please that sinful nature with SEXUAL SATISFACTION. According to your own doctrine, it does not matter if its male or female.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
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zatchmo1988 10 months ago
@zatchmo1988 WRONG CONCEPT AGAIN...You prove by your own words just exactly how lost, spiritually dead and separated from the LIVING GOD you really are...you are not "saved", you have not been "born again" you do not know the Lord Jesus Christ in a personal "saving" way, you do not have "saving" faith, you are not filled with the Spirit of Christ...your faulty, MAN centered, dead religious views are no different than those of a Muslim. You are cut off from the life of Christ and dead in your sin
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@zatchmo1988 You fail to SEE or recognize the reality of the Power of God to utterly transform a sinner into a saint. You fail to SEE the Truth of God in the person of His only begotton Son Jesus the Christ. It is this singular FACT that groups you with the Muslim. Muslim's, like you, do not believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God or that He was crucified and rose again on the third day. Because you do not believe in the Biblical Jesus you cannot be saved by Him and thus you are LOST.
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers first of all, the world is a terrible place because bigots like you group "muslims" with "muslim terrorists" and everyone else who is a non-christian. Secondly, you have just as much proof that christianity is the true religion, as jews say that judaism is the true religion, and as evoluntionists say that there is no god. by saying that you see god is like me saying i see, for example, budah. no one knows or will ever know. thus there is no proving or disproving any religion.
zatchmo1988 10 months ago
If it's a choice, then I guess you faced that decision also? I'm not homosexual, but I don't like the way society treats them.
Tokiopopski 10 months ago
You homo loving, wicked, evil, corrupt offspring of satan know nothing! The BIBLE clearly teaches that SIN is a CHOICE...you make the CHOICE to participate in sexual conduct that qualifies you for HELLFIRE and DAMNATION! You have FREE WILL and by your own arguments you demonstrate that you have freely chosen to submit yourself to a life of immorality and perversion. YOU love your sinful life and you HATE the life of moral purity that Jesus requires of the faithful disciple. You are DOOMED!
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
Your theological concepts are full of flaws! The bible also states we are semenly present in the loins of Adam, meaning we are all born sinners, you sit there and say no one is born a sinner well study your scripture! I would also like to stay that very simple philosophical thought would show you how flawed your arguments about homosexuality are. We are created in Gods image meaning we have the ability to use logical thought, may i suggest you use yours.
iwnt2live2100 10 months ago
Yes , I woke up and chose to be gay.
OF COURSE.
God , you're stupid.
Kattykinz123 10 months ago
@Kattykinz123 SICK PUPPY ALERT! Get a life sick'o...
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers Why am I the sick one? I ain't the one preaching hate. c:
Kattykinz123 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers right before your eyes? Oh, sweet, so youve seen god? jesus? a supernatural miracle? no? then its not before your eyes. you were just born that way- a christian. if your parents were jewish, you'd be jewish. every person in your church is also christian because their parents are, and taught them their beliefs. you are only saying these things because of tradition. thats it. so dont go around saying your right and everyone else is wrong, because tradition doesnt dictate truth
zatchmo1988 10 months ago
Are you gay? No. THEN HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU KNOW IF IT'S A CHOICE OR NOT? THE BIBLE SAYS SO IS NOT A RELEVANT ANSWER!
PineappleBeans1 10 months ago
@PineappleBeans1 Read the posts brainiac...
SouthernPreachers 10 months ago
@SouthernPreachers I did. They're asinine.
PineappleBeans1 10 months ago
if homosexualality is a choice then so is hetrosexualality. Though it isn't a choice. the only "choice" is wheather or not to act on FEELING, on desire. My opinion. so if you wanna reply telling me what you think, STOP, and think again, cause i dont care what you think, i just wanted to say what i thought. not looking for absolution or an argument ect ect ect.
LilleyLawliet 11 months ago
@LilleyLawliet I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with you. I want to be able to make love to my wife but I cannot because I cannot feel anything physical for her. The only way I could get her pregnant was to fantasize about being with a young man. I couldn't keep it up, otherwise. I know you may wonder why I married her. I thought I could change, make a choice like SouthernPreachers indicates. Except, once we were married, I discovered that I was still gay. Still with her after 25 years, though.
MyMagic111 9 months ago
@LilleyLawliet EXACTLY - SO IT IS A CHOICE YOU RETARD
drodusflab 8 months ago
Moron Alert!
SouthernPreachers 11 months ago
Can you feel the love of Xripzo?
SouthernPreachers 11 months ago