Millibands biggest flaw is the same as all labour politicians, they're all as thick as pig shit and only want to look after benefit scrounging pond life, its in their dna.
@tarapinkerton He says nothing about his own feelings or opinions!? Is it not right that the Labour MPs are actually thinking, "Why aren't WE doing a lot better?" that is all he is saying.
It is also ironic that you include "Truly shocking slip up from our "independent" state run broadcaster." What are you trying to insinuate? That the state, currently con/dem coalition, is funding the beeb to enable it to support Labour?
@324wilson Thats because he used to write the scripted answers for some Tories a while back. He's been doing it for a while and its the ONLY good thing he can do.
The polls are dreadful for Miliband as a leader. If you can't even get half of Labour supporters to approve of your leadership you are in big trouble. Time and again in the Commons you see Miliband missing opportunities to press Cameron or go on the offensive, but he somehow manages to always end up looking daft.
Paxman is right that that is what most of the public get to see, who won in PMQ's, Miliband has failed time and again to really assert himself and it's showing in the polls.
Ed was the Unions man i know because they encouraged their members to vote for him as a last minute push, it doesnt mean he is the best leader, Im a Labour man but dont think he is a forceful leader, hes too nice but doesnt have the quip to go with it. One things for sure the Lib dems can no longer rely on disenfranchised labour voters going with them anymore after they traitored those votes to Conservatives.
I just wish ed Milliband would have more guts and say I am left wing and support the Trade Unions. I think he and his advisors worry too much about being too marginalised and aiming for centre ground but I think its good to show the electorate what they stand for compared to some of the Tory like Policies that Blair and Brown had such as the abolition of the 10p tax rate for low income workers.
I think its a sad state how the media and the public judge Ed Miliband in not having good returns to David Camerons responses at PMQs. Its quite worrying that a leader is judged on how well he can handle jokes. Surely Ed's honesty and understanding counts a lot more than the sleaze and slime of Cameron, this opinion really refelcts the lack of intelligence of British people in believing all the hype rather than making a judgement for themselves and what they believe in.
Fascinating - These professional geniuses that we pay can do nothing better than insult each other for a laugh rather than running the country, dam the public for doing so much wrong, we should all follow by their example. =p
"Labour leader Ed Miliband is not a popular Labour leader."
= How can ANY of these corrupt bastards be "popular". I fucking hate the people of this country. I hope the Muslims take over and sort this shit out. Fucking pathetic horrible country we live in
Look around your Town/City. See the damage all those years of Labour did to this once great nation and be sure not to vote for Labour in the next election
@usernamealredytaken Funny that, those words were said before they got into power after the tory government before them. In fact things were a lot worse then.
@mehdi11 And if Labour were in power, we would have sky high interest rates, would have lost our AAA rating, and would have no plans to deal with the debt and deficit.
After what Labour did to this country during 13 years in power, they deserve to be out of office for a very, very long time.
@mehdi11@mehdi11 And if Labour were in power, we would have sky high interest rates, would have lost our AAA rating, and would have no plans to deal with the debt and deficit.
After what Labour did to this country during 13 years in power, they deserve to be out of office for a very, very long time.
Was on the youtube main-page and saw this. Jus thought i'd stop by and remind you that political wings are paradigms. Its a game. The closest you have to something real is UKIP and landless peasant party. Save your energy because you will need it.
Ed is a great leader of the Labour party. The election is a ong way off - he's just biding his time. Liberals and Tories will be destroyed at the next election.
@Supersmooth007 Because Cameron is the biggest con man to ever live - If you respect him for anything youve been fooled.
The trade unions VOTED for Ed to become leader doesnt mean he has to do everything they want. As for the polls Tories and Labour are pretty close. Some say Labour ahead a bit and others Tories ahead a bit.
In a nutshell Ed Miliband is a DORK - a dead ringer for 'Mr Bean' - & only a fellow dork would even consider voting him into high or responsible office.
Ed understands the nature of the change that brought about the crash and is the only one who plans to do something about it?
What have I missed? At what point did I hear the labour party pledge to remove the years mounting pile of anti-competitive banking regulation lobbied for by the big banks and strike down the state guarantees on depositors cash at banks and to outlaw bailouts by act of parliament? Perhaps I misunderstood his alien vs predator speech
@ukipwarrior Wow, I can't tell if you're trolling or if you actually believe that garbage. There's no doubt that he's a completely shit leader, but a Marxist...? Just lol. :)
As much as I acknowledge an obvious political bias in the BBC, I don't think this was meant as it sounds. 'We' means labour, the journalist is speaking in the first person narrative, "the worry concerning labour is... why on earth aren't we doing a whole lot better". The journalist is not including himself in this.
Though google biasedbbc and have a look at the excellent website for true evidence of the systematic bias in out state broadcaster.
@tarapinkerton Grossman posed a question he feels Labour MPs must be asking themselves, evidenced by the fact he starts the sentence off with: "The worry concerning Labour MPs as they head toward the Christmas holiday is this..." and then lists the reasons why Labour should probably be making progress at the Coalitions expense.
It wasn't a slip, as he was speaking as if he were a Labour MP pondering the issue, it's exactly what I'd have said and I'm not a Labour supporter.
@tarapinkerton Idiot. He started the sentence with ''Labour MPs are wondering'' and went on to finish ''why aren't we doing a whole lot better.'' He was talking for Labour MPs. Not for the BBC. I do not sympathise with the Labour Party, but I'm equally at odds with morons who try to paint the BBC, a great British institution, as some sort of communist propaganda machine.
@omid145 Idiot Omid. The BBC is a lefty mouthpiece and moronic socialists like you allow the Unions and the Lefty propaganda to continue. Maybe get off your sofa once in a while (other than to claim the dole) and look at what is going on in the world.
@tarapinkerton Wow, I'm a socialist? I'm a conservative actually, both a small 'c' and big 'C' one, and I do not subscribe to left-wing ideals. I'm just probably a bit more of a traditional conservative than you are, choosing to defend British institutions like the BBC and it's tradition of neutrality rather than espouse crazed and zealous right-wing drivel.
@RedandBlackFilms Moron. If you listen to it, you can conceive that he is talking about himself and not empathising with the labour loonies. go read the socialist worker.
@tarapinkerton Just so you know, can ‘conceive’ anything you want when listening to someone, the word means to devise in the mind or ‘imagine’, I suggest you stop conceiving and start listening to what they actually say. Stop bashing the BBC because of your nazi neocon political views. By the way if you actually listened to people instead of the shit you ‘conceive’ in your head - you’d probably change your political views.
@RedandBlackFilms You do understand the nuance of human speech? surely you have got past aged 5 reasoning and thinking by now? Maybe if you removed your socialist head from your socialist arse you could see that.
@RedandBlackFilms I don't think you understand what you are saying, that seems to be the issue. You socialists have difficulty in making sense out of reality, I hope you get better soon.
@tarapinkerton "The question facing Labour MPs is this..." - If you'd bothered to listen properly, you'd have realised the "we" was grammatically accurate and had jack all to do with Grossman's own beliefs. It was anything but a 'slip up'. By all means slag the BBC's neutrality (or lack thereof) off, but at least find some proper evidence first.
@tarapinkerton Sorry - I'm not sure whether you are intentionally being deceitful, or if it is a genuine mistake on your part (I imagine its the latter), but if you listen from 2.26, rather than 2.44, you get the whole context:
He said: "The worry concerning Labour MPs is.... why aren't we doing a whole lot better?"
Sometimes if you are passionate about something - which you clearly are here - you end up hearing what you want to hear. As clearly do the 7 people who recommended your comment.
@TheCasualObservers I am not saying that is not what he meant. But I would seriously doubt anyone would say those words unless they had sympathy with their position. It is just telling that the BBC (well known labour mouthpiece as you should be aware) correspondent feels comfortable to say it. It can be brushed aside of course, I would say it is a nod to his own true feelings.
I am guessing you are a left/socialist supporter yourself, hence your biased opinion.
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hotsatsuma 4 weeks ago
Proverbs 10.14 Wise men store up knowledge,but the mouth of a fool invites ruin.
SuperJamesfletcher 1 month ago
Cameron is very quick on his feet.
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stevenoc 2 months ago
Millibands biggest flaw is the same as all labour politicians, they're all as thick as pig shit and only want to look after benefit scrounging pond life, its in their dna.
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@tarapinkerton He says nothing about his own feelings or opinions!? Is it not right that the Labour MPs are actually thinking, "Why aren't WE doing a lot better?" that is all he is saying.
It is also ironic that you include "Truly shocking slip up from our "independent" state run broadcaster." What are you trying to insinuate? That the state, currently con/dem coalition, is funding the beeb to enable it to support Labour?
teevanator 2 months ago
Whether you like Cameron or not, but you have to agree that in the House of Commons, he can easily beat anyone, especially Miliband.
324wilson 2 months ago 2
@324wilson That's because Miliband would struggle to beat an egg!
OobyScoobyDoomsday 2 months ago 2
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@324wilson Thats because he used to write the scripted answers for some Tories a while back. He's been doing it for a while and its the ONLY good thing he can do.
stevenoc 2 months ago
It's not big and it's not clever to laugh at Labour suffering for what they did to the country.
arthur1411 2 months ago
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arthur1411 2 months ago
I typed in bullshit artist and got this video. My computer keeps on locking onto Ed Milliband everytime I type it in.....weird!
LOCOMOTIONNUMBER1 2 months ago
Bloody hell, they're like a bunch of kids
capitalcitygiant 2 months ago
The polls are dreadful for Miliband as a leader. If you can't even get half of Labour supporters to approve of your leadership you are in big trouble. Time and again in the Commons you see Miliband missing opportunities to press Cameron or go on the offensive, but he somehow manages to always end up looking daft.
Paxman is right that that is what most of the public get to see, who won in PMQ's, Miliband has failed time and again to really assert himself and it's showing in the polls.
TeaKae421 2 months ago
Ed Miliband is the type of guy you couldn't help but tease at school.
TheGroggler 2 months ago 2
Ed was the Unions man i know because they encouraged their members to vote for him as a last minute push, it doesnt mean he is the best leader, Im a Labour man but dont think he is a forceful leader, hes too nice but doesnt have the quip to go with it. One things for sure the Lib dems can no longer rely on disenfranchised labour voters going with them anymore after they traitored those votes to Conservatives.
tankman1962 2 months ago
I just wish ed Milliband would have more guts and say I am left wing and support the Trade Unions. I think he and his advisors worry too much about being too marginalised and aiming for centre ground but I think its good to show the electorate what they stand for compared to some of the Tory like Policies that Blair and Brown had such as the abolition of the 10p tax rate for low income workers.
scottbarclay6 2 months ago
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@scottbarclay6 And id he admitted he was left wing and supported the trade unions, he wouldnt get close to ever getting elected.
This country is a small C conservative nation, being openely left wing, will not get you into power anymore, the 70's made sure of that.
Kozzy06 2 months ago
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@scottbarclay6 And id he admitted he was left wing and supported the trade unions, he wouldnt get close to ever getting elected.
This country is a small C conservative nation, being openely left wing, will not get you into power anymore, the 70's made sure of that.
Kozzy06 2 months ago
I think its a sad state how the media and the public judge Ed Miliband in not having good returns to David Camerons responses at PMQs. Its quite worrying that a leader is judged on how well he can handle jokes. Surely Ed's honesty and understanding counts a lot more than the sleaze and slime of Cameron, this opinion really refelcts the lack of intelligence of British people in believing all the hype rather than making a judgement for themselves and what they believe in.
scottbarclay6 2 months ago
@scottbarclay6 So because people dont agree with you, they lack intelligence?
Typical left winger attitude.
Kozzy06 2 months ago
Fascinating - These professional geniuses that we pay can do nothing better than insult each other for a laugh rather than running the country, dam the public for doing so much wrong, we should all follow by their example. =p
MrAshman113 2 months ago
"Labour leader Ed Miliband is not a popular Labour leader."
= How can ANY of these corrupt bastards be "popular". I fucking hate the people of this country. I hope the Muslims take over and sort this shit out. Fucking pathetic horrible country we live in
eDemocracyUK 2 months ago
@eDemocracyUK Yeah cos that's gonna fix it :eyeroll:
Levzi 2 months ago
@Levzi Muslims will do a fucking better job than Jeremy Kyle britain
eDemocracyUK 2 months ago
@eDemocracyUK completely true
mehdi11 2 months ago
Look around your Town/City. See the damage all those years of Labour did to this once great nation and be sure not to vote for Labour in the next election
usernamealredytaken 2 months ago
@usernamealredytaken Funny that, those words were said before they got into power after the tory government before them. In fact things were a lot worse then.
Levzi 2 months ago
@usernamealredytaken its got much worse since tories came, as usual.
mehdi11 2 months ago
@mehdi11 Thats just the aftermath. Here's hoping they can sort it out!
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@mehdi11 And if Labour were in power, we would have sky high interest rates, would have lost our AAA rating, and would have no plans to deal with the debt and deficit.
After what Labour did to this country during 13 years in power, they deserve to be out of office for a very, very long time.
Kozzy06 2 months ago
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@mehdi11 @mehdi11 And if Labour were in power, we would have sky high interest rates, would have lost our AAA rating, and would have no plans to deal with the debt and deficit.
After what Labour did to this country during 13 years in power, they deserve to be out of office for a very, very long time.
Kozzy06 2 months ago
Was on the youtube main-page and saw this. Jus thought i'd stop by and remind you that political wings are paradigms. Its a game. The closest you have to something real is UKIP and landless peasant party. Save your energy because you will need it.
ILLZUKUNT 2 months ago
Cameron battered Milipede.
Octavius0 2 months ago 2
Stopped at 4:55 absolutely pathetic!
irdial 2 months ago
@irdial You stopped watching at 4:55 or the video clip screwed up? I check uploaded clips as it's not unheard of for youtube to mess them up badly.
liarpoliticians 2 months ago
they should all be shot
SeafarFlats 2 months ago
Ed is a great leader of the Labour party. The election is a ong way off - he's just biding his time. Liberals and Tories will be destroyed at the next election.
stevenoc 2 months ago
@stevenoc If he is a great leader then why is Labour behind in Polls why do very few people respect him, including trade unions!??
Supersmooth007 2 months ago
@Supersmooth007 Because Cameron is the biggest con man to ever live - If you respect him for anything youve been fooled.
The trade unions VOTED for Ed to become leader doesnt mean he has to do everything they want. As for the polls Tories and Labour are pretty close. Some say Labour ahead a bit and others Tories ahead a bit.
stevenoc 2 months ago
Ed is a political pygmy ... it is actually quite sad to watch him floundering aimlessly about.
levenbrown 2 months ago
In a nutshell Ed Miliband is a DORK - a dead ringer for 'Mr Bean' - & only a fellow dork would even consider voting him into high or responsible office.
freeman8128 2 months ago 3
Ed understands the nature of the change that brought about the crash and is the only one who plans to do something about it?
What have I missed? At what point did I hear the labour party pledge to remove the years mounting pile of anti-competitive banking regulation lobbied for by the big banks and strike down the state guarantees on depositors cash at banks and to outlaw bailouts by act of parliament? Perhaps I misunderstood his alien vs predator speech
MrJrock331 2 months ago
Ed is moving to the looney left what a disaster this closet marxist is!!!!
ukipwarrior 2 months ago 17
@ukipwarrior 'ukipwarrior' says it all. Youre clear just a fool- no credibility to say anything while youre a supporter of that idiot party.
Jimmmeeehhh 2 months ago
@ukipwarrior eh? do you even know what a marxist is? go back to school you fucking clown, and come back when you've a clue what you're on about
neverdat100 1 month ago
@ukipwarrior Marxist? Seriously?? Calm down man.
TheCasualObservers 1 month ago
@ukipwarrior Wow, I can't tell if you're trolling or if you actually believe that garbage. There's no doubt that he's a completely shit leader, but a Marxist...? Just lol. :)
ubernaffa 1 month ago
Notice the BBC correspondent David Grossman says at 2.44.... "why aren't WE doing a whole lot better" "WE" meaning the labour party.
Truly shocking slip up from our "independent" state run broadcaster.
tarapinkerton 2 months ago 8
@tarapinkerton Are you deaf? He said that "the worry concerning Labour MPs is..."
DalePhoenix 2 months ago 2
@DalePhoenix I heard that. You know he means him though, he shows empathy to the labour cause.
tarapinkerton 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton come on- its only a slip up. You cant expect all reporters to give up any political views, its just a mistake!
Jimmmeeehhh 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton
As much as I acknowledge an obvious political bias in the BBC, I don't think this was meant as it sounds. 'We' means labour, the journalist is speaking in the first person narrative, "the worry concerning labour is... why on earth aren't we doing a whole lot better". The journalist is not including himself in this.
Though google biasedbbc and have a look at the excellent website for true evidence of the systematic bias in out state broadcaster.
Octavius0 2 months ago
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TeaKae421 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton Grossman posed a question he feels Labour MPs must be asking themselves, evidenced by the fact he starts the sentence off with: "The worry concerning Labour MPs as they head toward the Christmas holiday is this..." and then lists the reasons why Labour should probably be making progress at the Coalitions expense.
It wasn't a slip, as he was speaking as if he were a Labour MP pondering the issue, it's exactly what I'd have said and I'm not a Labour supporter.
TeaKae421 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton listen from 2:30; he says,'the question facing labour MPs....'
Overtime123 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton Idiot. He started the sentence with ''Labour MPs are wondering'' and went on to finish ''why aren't we doing a whole lot better.'' He was talking for Labour MPs. Not for the BBC. I do not sympathise with the Labour Party, but I'm equally at odds with morons who try to paint the BBC, a great British institution, as some sort of communist propaganda machine.
omid145 2 months ago
@omid145 Idiot Omid. The BBC is a lefty mouthpiece and moronic socialists like you allow the Unions and the Lefty propaganda to continue. Maybe get off your sofa once in a while (other than to claim the dole) and look at what is going on in the world.
tarapinkerton 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton Wow, I'm a socialist? I'm a conservative actually, both a small 'c' and big 'C' one, and I do not subscribe to left-wing ideals. I'm just probably a bit more of a traditional conservative than you are, choosing to defend British institutions like the BBC and it's tradition of neutrality rather than espouse crazed and zealous right-wing drivel.
omid145 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton you're a moron. That's not what he said at all. Go watch fox news.
RedandBlackFilms 2 months ago
@RedandBlackFilms Moron. If you listen to it, you can conceive that he is talking about himself and not empathising with the labour loonies. go read the socialist worker.
tarapinkerton 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton Just so you know, can ‘conceive’ anything you want when listening to someone, the word means to devise in the mind or ‘imagine’, I suggest you stop conceiving and start listening to what they actually say. Stop bashing the BBC because of your nazi neocon political views. By the way if you actually listened to people instead of the shit you ‘conceive’ in your head - you’d probably change your political views.
RedandBlackFilms 2 months ago
@RedandBlackFilms You do understand the nuance of human speech? surely you have got past aged 5 reasoning and thinking by now? Maybe if you removed your socialist head from your socialist arse you could see that.
tarapinkerton 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton You’re ‘conceiving’ again. Try and concentrate on what I actually wrote instead of what you imagined I wrote.
Apply this technique every day when people try and talk to you and I promise your quality of life will improve.
RedandBlackFilms 2 months ago
@RedandBlackFilms I don't think you understand what you are saying, that seems to be the issue. You socialists have difficulty in making sense out of reality, I hope you get better soon.
tarapinkerton 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton he was speaking from the perspective of Labour -_-
quiglo100 2 months ago 2
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@tarapinkerton he was speaking from the perspective of Labour -_-
quiglo100 2 months ago
@tarapinkerton "The question facing Labour MPs is this..." - If you'd bothered to listen properly, you'd have realised the "we" was grammatically accurate and had jack all to do with Grossman's own beliefs. It was anything but a 'slip up'. By all means slag the BBC's neutrality (or lack thereof) off, but at least find some proper evidence first.
bollibolshevik91 1 month ago
@tarapinkerton Sorry - I'm not sure whether you are intentionally being deceitful, or if it is a genuine mistake on your part (I imagine its the latter), but if you listen from 2.26, rather than 2.44, you get the whole context:
He said: "The worry concerning Labour MPs is.... why aren't we doing a whole lot better?"
Sometimes if you are passionate about something - which you clearly are here - you end up hearing what you want to hear. As clearly do the 7 people who recommended your comment.
TheCasualObservers 1 month ago
@TheCasualObservers I am not saying that is not what he meant. But I would seriously doubt anyone would say those words unless they had sympathy with their position. It is just telling that the BBC (well known labour mouthpiece as you should be aware) correspondent feels comfortable to say it. It can be brushed aside of course, I would say it is a nod to his own true feelings.
I am guessing you are a left/socialist supporter yourself, hence your biased opinion.
tarapinkerton 1 month ago