Former Spiritualist testimony (1 of 2) - Spiritualism - Spirit guides - Meditation - OBE

[19Ng84]

Spiritualism is not about ego. Matter of fact it is the opposite! 

[japwin]

This is nonsense I am not an athiest in fact im Christian spiritualist I see both sides of the coin guides are not evil it was my guide who brought me to Christianity (the belief of Jesus) and it was my guide who has made me see straight and kept my faith the reason why I believe in Christ is I believe in his words that will lead us to god this video is a pathetic testimony that doesn't touch on spiritualism one bit the point of spiritualism isn't the contact of just spirits its to be spiritual

[mrcuteblackie]

that man does not know God. He is a capitalist money monger.

[mrcuteblackie]

The bottomline is ths: be a good human being! The rest is just belief. The Bible is just a belief, and who knows if it was writtem by some peole who wanted to blind you from the truth. The spirituality techniques can also be used to invoque Christ.

[Mgiambr]

To all the people who blame this on the church need to research the shamen of the jungles across the globe, and hear what they have to say about spirits, god, and the devil. The shamen have been around long before the church.

[Jehstfan]

Good post thank you and God bless. Is there a full version to this somewhere?

[helene929]

Hello can you tell me the name of the person giving this testimony please? many thanks!  helene929

[Delorioable]

Believe it or not-I actually had a very personal experience of Jesus, but still sense and see things (just part of who I am I suppose) and as for all this evil intent of satans forces? Still havent met im yet! Perhaps you people just dont understand as much as you think you do? Heaven forbid you might be WRONG about some things! Oh-and miss high an mighty Maxwell please note: its not very nice spying on others!

[perhapsme]

Liar!



[RobBreakwell]

@selious04 You say I am in ignorance, I am not the one who has hallucinations and believes in fairy stories. This is an Advert for the church and if this guy was an athiest, he must have had to much to drink or been on drugs. And by the way, I am an Agnostic not an Athiest. Spiritualist try to prove an existence beyond this life and I would rather believe them than the religious dogma we are fed by mainstream religions.The Bible, Koran and others are man made and amended thru the centuries.

[RobBreakwell]

Obviously a church or religious backed video. The chap in the video sounds like a nut. There is no such person or thing as the Devil. This was an invention of the church in the early centuries to frighten the populace whom because of the lack of knowledge believed the superstitious rubbish the church pumped out. This video sounds like an advert to increase church membership. Total rubbish. Religion, the worst disease to hit mankind.

[selious04]

@RobBreakwell, This guy was an atheist and was not affiliated with any church or religion but he saw a demon anyway and this manifestation shook him out of the ignorance you are currently in. In his testimony, he actually shows you the demon:

"(1) *REAL*DEMON on My Shoulder + Slit Eyes (1)"

youtube [.] com/watch?v=c7O86vUq1QU

[twasblind316]

I my self am a former psychic reader. This video is the truth and I respect his story because its similar to my own. I gave a reading for a very worried mother and saw im my minds eye that her problem was with the demonic. I suggested she go to a priest for an exorcism. Thats when the spirits turned on me. I was tormented by them for months and was even twice attacked by them. I eventually became a christian and stopped doing readings. I found Jesus and He is amazing. I hope you find him too.

[LauraMaxwellExSpirit]

@twasblind316 , thanks for sharing that. When I was a Spiritualist, my mother+I expereinced similar things to the guy in the film+weI knew of many other Mediums who did too.John Cramphorn,the guy in the film, travels the UK and meets other EX Spiritualists with similar stories. John wrote a free book, + you can read it online. It gives more details of his story. See it on Reach out Trust.org , under Testimony, then see Occult section, find his name and his book. God bless. Kind reagrds, Laura.

[mrcuteblackie]

@twasblind316 Yes, when you send a spirit away they they come back on you. You must have the love of Christ, however, not only christ. So long as you have God, I mean the love of God, you will be safe.

[PhantomGhost007]

All these damn psychics and what not!! SUCK BIG TIME! As far as I'm concerned they can BURN in HELL!! Piss Off!!!

[michellecantin]

HAHAHAHA I think he was just on crack!!! lol

[michellecantin]

Who is this man anyways? They could be anyone just trying to make people believe spiritualism is bad and Christianity is best.

There are 3 types of spirits. The ones that have moved on, the ones that still roam the earth and the bad spirits (underground spirits). Underground spirits can influence you in being angry, sad or any negative emotion. Ego is not really an emotion and he brought it upon himself. If he truly can communicate with the dead, he wasn't communicating with the right spirits.

[southsidesman]

All this spiritualism, psychics and such ... thank GOD for him. May his story be magnified. We got to get on our job

[utopiandesign]

"The spirit realm was angry with man for such atrocities." The spirit realm, i.e. demon angels serving Satan are responsible for every affliction, suffering, injustice and death! Satan brought death to earth! And before him death did not exist! This is the bitter fruit of sin's dominion. I have many stories: personal and from friends. Even the Vatican is duped! When your schedule allows search the name Roger Morneau. His testimony is likewise superb, having been delivered from Satan worship.

[woden20]

Rubbish.

You are a soul using a body. This world is for experience only. Your born pure and if you can leave without being drawn into selfish needs life go's sweet.

If life was to follow a set way to be good v evil what would you learn. It is to be balanced and not one or the other. You are everything and everything is you.

[astgraphicnovel]

@woden20 You are born pure but the potential to do sin/evil when you grow to a certain age. You'll gain your experience from your own sinful nature. So if that same situation comes up again, you'll chose to do God's will rather than the sin that got you into a dangerous situation before.

[woden20]

@astgraphicnovel Yes thats right but i don't see a god as good and a devil as evil.

We create our own world. Whether it's good or bad is your choice.

The saying live by the sword die by the sword.

For a bad spirit to get a grip on your soul it can only do this from your bad energy. 

[selious04]

@woden20, I'm making a video to expose the New Age just for people like you who don't get it

[woden20]

@selious04 What is new age ? Never even heard of it

[woden20]

@selious04 i am not into any religion or following, i am definatly not for the new world order new religion. Why do people feel they need some path to follow ?

I look like a thug but i have been able to see the spirit world since a child. I was about 13-14 before i realised not everyone can. This man wanted fame thats why he was run through the mill. I have never wanted that my life has always been good. You pull into your life the energy you produce.

[woden20]

@selious04 If you look at my page i have a website

it is old now but i am anti new world order. What i see is how i see it and nothing else i was born this way, there is nothing wrong with me i have been able to see the real evil control freaks since birth. The only thing i found that describes me is indigo child !!

[selious04]

@woden20, Arlindo Barbosa de Oliveira of Brazil was a powerful witch doctor that for many years worked in the office of the President of Brazil, and in the Ministry of War and other government agencies of that nation. A spirit manifested in him called Dr. Reubenstein. The spirit said it had manifested in a German doctor in a former life. When the spirit manifested, Arlindo, at three years of age, would write prescriptions in Latin...

[selious04]

@woden20, He was an "Indigo" child because his mother was a Macumba spiritist. When you dabble in the occult, you get deceived by these spirits claiming to be your dead relatives, but they are actually demons. THAT IS WHY YOU GET POLTERGEISTS. If your home is not cleansed and these entities win against you, they will enter you. These spiritual gifts are not yours, they belong to the demons inhabiting you. That is why these ascended masters say you should dabble in the occult to get these powers

[selious04]

@woden20, Read more about it in "Witch Doctor" by Lester Sumrall or you can find similar testimonies in these videos where they also had "spiritual powers":

"Occult Revival of Evil"

watch?v=Y1PZqEw8644&feature=re­lated

Just walk into a deliverance church, tell them whats's up and they'll heal you. The only one who can cast demons out of you and your home is Jesus Christ and He'll take away the fear

"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind"

[woden20]

@selious04 I know there are bad spirits but there are also good ones, I have been guided to see the illuminati for years since i was really young. School age. I have exposed bad and woken hundreds up in my time. It is getting quite popular now, but it never use to be. The bad spirits would never want this exposed.

The one thing i know is they use the Bible 666 is from the Roman numbers 1,5,10,50,100,500. The Holy Roman Empire is still alive today. These are the people who worship the demons.

[woden20]

@selious04 I watched that film and i agree, there are very bad spirits and they can come through the ouija board. It is like opening your front door and inviting anyone in. It is not a good way to communicate, Reincarnation is real it is just progress for your soul.

Watch this film "the boy who lived before" He is no demon just a boy who remembered it is a really good film.

[selious04]

@woden20, The Bible does not say we are reincarnated. These demonic entities that inhabit your body are the ones that live through the bodies, they are evil spirits that find no rest because they don't have bodies. It's the same with Arlindo Barbosa, he had a spirit in him that lived in a German doctor previously to entering Arlindo's body.

That "boy who lived before" is no different. And you can't say the Bible was changed because the ancient Dead Sea Scrolls prove they are not corrupt.

[selious04]

@woden20,

"He (high satanic priest) says, the friendly demon spirits have always found

great delight in impersonating apparitions, departed love ones and persons of great renown. I saw this happen many times with the spiritists." -Roger Morneau, Former Spirit worshiper

[woden20]

@selious04 They know just how powerful we are and they want to stop us knowing. The Bible is available to everyone but the knowledge of empowerment within yourself is not and has not been open. This is their knowledge not to share. You feel love inside then love will come into your life. you fear fake terror attacks, global warming rubbish ,swine flu etc etc... Then fear will rule. They rule with fear and secret knowledge. You are pure Love only the NWO can change this with FEAR.

[selious04]

@woden20,

"It's going to be done in a unique manner, this grand plan. Demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets of the galaxies; that

are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet, unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it." -Roger Morneau, Former Spirit Worshiper

[woden20]

@selious04 This is how i see the Bible, the NWO or illuminati have the knowledge and wants to keep it all to themselves. This book they follow tells you not to fear them because Jesus will save you. In other words do not resist. Do not progress just do as your told that is what life is about. They use 666 so you will think it's all true. The Bible must be right and we must follow as it tells us. Compare what is going on now to the revelations. A script they follow.

[selious04]

@woden20, The Bible is the Word of God but the Illuminati wish to destroy it, watch "Illuminati and its infiltration of Christianity"

watch?v=UzK3QeEWEYs

That video will show you how much the Illuminati has tried to corrupt Jesus Christ's teachings. It even has a real recording of a demon provoked by a pastor. It should clear up that idea Zeitgeist must have given you about religion being a tool for control

These demons you consort with have switched your savior from Jesus to Ascended Masters

[woden20]

@selious04 You talk like i am following some way to be. I don't know what you mean by ascended master ? All i go by is what i can SEE with my own eyes. I have been exposing the NWO since before you was born. I have never had a bad spirit give me any trouble. They feed off your selfishness to which i have none. If these spirits who help me are demons then why use me to weaken the evil force in this world ? All their power is media manipulation and lies which i expose making evil weak ?

[selious04]

@woden20, I finished that video I made for people like you in spiritualism:

"Jesus Christ has authority over Ascended Masters"

watch?v=-iQYTN6Q2n0

[woden20]

@selious04 I don't wish to change you or your love of the Bible, if you find it a comfort thats good for you. I don't like the way you condem anyone who disagrees with it. I do not have evil spirits in me or my house. Would you want to burn me if i didn't confess ?

You can tell a bad spirit by their smell it is horrible.

[woden20]

@selious04 I did watch your film. But when alot of people get into spiritualism they get a power trip. They think of making a living from it, being better than anyone else, the EGO becomes self centered. THIS is where the bad comes in. The only difference between you and a spirit is you are in a body.

Sensing Murder on TV, Watch one of these programs. Catching a murderer with help from spirit, that is not evil. If the police couldn't help you im sure you will ask a medium for help

[woden20]

@selious04 This is video which shows love is not just for humans who know of Jesus.

This is my world.

watch?v=8QqLgz7Glcg

[selious04]

@woden20, That video of the dog saving the dog is really nice,Ii hope they were both adopted into the same home. But dogs showing emotion and courage does not prove your point. That is why they are called man's best friend. This world is ruled by the prince of darkness, that is why the Jesus said:

"My kingdom is not of this world"-John 18:36

Jesus is not ascended master, if He were He would have taught that. The Bible is not corrupt, the Dead Sea Scrolls prove that. You really are deceived

[woden20]

@selious04 If your not born a Christian and say a Muslim instead, you can also become possessed. They can rid the demon without Jesus.

If i am controlled by these demons you say, i tell people not to trust the Government don't take the flu jab, 9-11 was a staged event to con you into war, are these things i speak of demonic ? I think the people in power are evil am i wrong ?

[selious04]

@woden20, No they can't cast out demonic entities, it would appear they do but they can't. Here's a testimony of a shiite Muslim who was attacked by a demon spirit, it was after he gained the spiritual powers of Islam. When he was being choked he rebuked it in the name of Allah and used everything from the Qur'an and nothing worked, all of a sudden a voice said "Bring the name of Jesus, watch what happened:

"A Muslim Man's AMAZING Testimony about Jesus (1 of 2)"

watch?v=9MqN41iqUyw

[woden20]

@selious04 I did notice the same thing, he wanted more and more power. This is where an evil spirit can get a foot hold. Do you think a Christian who thinks his Government is good believes the bullshit 9-11, 7-7, global warming fear mongering to manipulate his wanting to fight the wars is good in Gods eyes. And me i'm bad because i won't praise Jesus but i do expose evil, i won't be manipulated by the evil. It's knowing who's evil not just believing in Jesus.

[selious04]

@woden20,

Stephen Dollins, Former satanic High Priest

Fritz Springmeier-exposing the Illuminati and its bloodlines (murdered)

Carol Kornacki-Occultist/witch, she had spirit guides

Roger Morneau used to worship spirits with elitists (organization of the 1700s he talks about is the Illuminati), communicated with spirit guides, his high priest said that these fallen angels/spirits are beautiful beings

Kent Hovind exposed the lies of Evolution, he was imprisoned for what Aaron Russo exposed

[woden20]

@selious04 I watched Kent Hovind on Evolution, this really made me cringe. i don't like the way he uses brainwashing techniques. This is totally wrong, without the Bible people won't be murderers, I am of good heart because that is how i feel not because i am being told to be like it. I don't need a law saying not to hurt people, if your a nice person then i will treat you like a nice person. That is me as i am naturally.

[woden20]

@selious04 He said the world is only a few thousand years old. I'm an electrical/mechanical engineer i will not take an old book without question. I take everything apart to see how it works, thats why i don't and can't believe the official 9-11 rubbish. Science has destroyed Genesis, hubble has shown us there are billions of not just stars, Galaxies. I think Kent Hovind has destroyed anything i had for the Bible

[woden20]

@selious04 This formal spiritualist fell for the same manipulation that people do in this world. He trusted an evil spirit who lied. People trust the Illuminati manipulation the same. Love and truth are the things you need to find amounst the lies, this is what life is about. Not just being manipulated by evil and as long as you say Jesus will save me it is ok to be lied to. Do not give your power to anyone and trust your heart.

[selious04]

@woden20, Just because videos like hashemsfilms, Zeitgeist and people like David Icke are at liberty to expose the corrupt government does not mean they are right on everything else they try to make you believe. There is a reason why have not been silenced. Because they are luring people in with truth so that when the New Age teachings are pushed, people will accept it as truth. That's how I got into the New Age movement back in 2008.

[selious04]

@woden20, I used quartz crystals, I meditated on golden beams of light to heal/balance my chakras, I listened to the teachings of the Pleaidians, I made orgone, I believed my soul was dual-both light and dark like the ying-yang, I listened to gurus, I did tapping, etc. I researched so much conspiracy I didn't know what was the truth anymore, yet within it all, it led me to Christ. Why is New age, occultists, witches, satanists and the like are so against this One God? Yet they are for all others

[woden20]

@selious04 How would i know what New age, occultists, witches, satanists and the like think ? I'm none of the above. They are following i don't follow nothing but my heart. To me God is the law of Nature. If you act selfish and greedy then your life will have selfish and greedy people in it. If your full of Love then your life will be full of lovely people. This is my world through experience not an out of date book to follow blindly. I have no evil around me because they have nothing to hold.

[selious04]

@woden20, I thought that way once too. All I could ask of you is to research, eventually it will lead you to Christ and you'll find that, that book is the living word of God, it is not outdated it has a verse &/story of someone back than that relates to us now. For one, America will burn soon. America is Babylon prophesied in the Bible. It will start when the economy collapses, then there will be famine, then there will be an internal revolution, then Russia, Nicaragua, and others will nuke it

[woden20]

@selious04 Like i said the illuminati use the Bible for their own purposes. Thats why they build their building like the tower of bable with the whore of Babylon riding the bull outside. It is using anything and everything to manipulate. The only answer to all this is what you feel in your heart.

watch?v=aY7MLWrMBQ8

[selious04]

@woden20, Ignorance is this: When you argue on something you know nothing about. Here are SCIENTIFIC FACTS in the Bible. The Bible had it all in there before people were even called "scientists":

EARTH IS A SPHERE

"circle of the earth"-Isaiah 40:22

When Jesus spoke of His second coming, He referred to a night scene (men sleeping), a morning scene (women grinding), & a midday scene (workers in the field) happening simultaneously (Luke 17:34-36)

It is an indirect reference to a spherical earth

[woden20]

@selious04 Argue on something i know nothing about ? I'm 44 been an engineer since leaving school Physics is what i know. Atoms and the make up of matter.

What i see is what i see, good and bad spirits, Life is your choice you manipulate people you will pay, you hurt you pay, you show love you get love. This is your progress. Lots of people say the're Christian that won't help you if your bad. 

[selious04]

@woden20, If you want to see how God's angels communicate, here's a Romanian's testimony about America. The angel Gabriel told Dimitru that America will burn & how it will happen. This is the Lord's angels:

"Dumitru Duduman Warning America Part 7 of 10"

watch?v=d6kuD1vYIK8&feature=re­lated

Outdated books do not have anything to do with the future, with the modern world. But here is this ancient book we call the Bible, and it happens to be 1/3 prophecy.

[selious04]

@woden20, About Kent Hovind, he speaks the truth, that is why no one would debate him. In the beginning people didn't know about him so they debated him. Every single evolutionist slandered Hovind because they were looking stupid on account of their lack of realizing the truth. They would make fun of him and pick on his quotes and Hovind just took it with a smile. Kent Hovind debates three rude evolutionists at one time, tell me who the brain washers are here:

hovind debate

watch?v=xMpk7WerFWw

[woden20]

@selious04 A testimony is just one persons account of what happened to him. This is open to lies manipulation and brainwashing. It does not prove anything unless you believe someones word as fact.

This is how politicians get people to vote for them. Infact Mr Bush himself claims to have been told by God that he was doing the right thing.

Talk is cheap and anyone can say anything.

[woden20]

@selious04 Kent Hovind does not speak the truth. He is just repeating from an old book which was written before they knew of DNA, carbon dating, the Atom, that the Sun is our center of our solar system. You don't see the brainwashing he uses, you looked for what he was saying with bias. Your mind is now fixed there is no movement for you, Obey or go to hell, that is all you think life was made for. That is rather sad.

[woden20]

@selious04 I do not like Christians, do you want to burn me ? as you think i'm being guilded by demons ?

You have not explained why the demons expose the illuminati, the power they have is by secrets and hiding, why am i exposing them ? If they are demons working for satan they should be helping to keep the illuminati hidden ? I agree with Kent Hovind on this and this only.

[selious04]

CARBON DATING IS A FAULTY METHOD:

Evolutionists claim a bone is dated millions of years old using Carbon Dating. Hovind proved through records of tests that carbon dating will date one animal to be two very different ages and it will date live animals to be thousands of years old.

"100 Reasons why Evolution is stupid 7-11"

watch?v=64VUIYRrIuk&feature=re­lated

It's a faulty method.

[woden20]

@selious04 Do you not want to answer my question ?

If i have demons why do they expose the illuminati ?

I have always been like it before Mr Icke but what he is saying is spot on "in my eyes" He followed me, i don't follow anyone or anything like i keep saying.

[selious04]

@woden20, By the way that link you put about David Icke & frequencies, I already fell into that b.s. in 2008, like I told you. I have his book "Children of the Matrix". I first read his stuff from his book "The Biggest Secret" in 2004. I hope you'll realize like I have that you've been duped into believing this New Age lie. Your soul is not both light and dark. You cannot embrace your inner serial killer or inner child molester because you think you are god.

"UNSEEN ZONES"

watch?v=MUJgJV_Xe_8

[woden20]

@selious04 """You cannot embrace your inner serial killer or inner child molester because you think you are god."""

Is this why you gave up on it ?? and joined the church.

What you put out you get back i knew this before David Icke i was born like it how many more times i never even knew what new age was. Bad people get bad, good people get good. This is how you learn what is right . Not just to obey that is the mind of a slave with no responsibility.

[woden20]

@selious04 As soon as you mention David Icke everyone goes "Oh he's that Nutter". If he was a agent of the illuminati he would be praised up by the mass media.

If your in an exam and someone gives you the answer paper, what do you learn ? Nothing, but If you go through life using only what your heart tells only you learn the right way the hard way and the only way. But your soul will learn, that is what life is about.

[selious04]

@woden20, How do you get a rat to accept poison? Mix it with food. These demons you call "spirit guides" mix truth with lies. They lure you in with truth so that when they say everything opposite of Christianity is the right way, then you'll believe it. Think about it, these ascended masters, spirit guides, the Luciferian Helena Blavatsky, Freemasons and the like all have the same ideas-they are all linked into this New Age agenda

[woden20]

@selious04 Everything you talk about is the Bible.

I know what the Bible is saying and i am fully aware of how evil works through the church, pope, etc The film "the exorcist" and the new one both Hollywood made in other words illuminati. Both back the Church as the Saviour. Evil won't come with a red cloak and horns, it works through good, this i know, i am not blind to manipulation.

[selious04]

@woden20, That is why demons will expose a bit of truth, they want your trust, your gullible naive trust. Like I said that's how I got into the new age crap. I didn't think David Icke was crazy at all, I immersed myself in his teachings like a fool. I totally believed it but who else are trying to spread the truth? Former Illuminatists, former spiritualists, former Freemasons, they were in the occult (the obvious corrupt side) and they got out because they witnesses the truth in Jesus Christ.

[woden20]

@selious04 I never got into the new age i didn't even know what it was until you mentioned it. I go on what i see with my eyes and feel with my heart ONLY. Not some old out of date book that don't even mention the Billions of other earth type worlds and Galaxies. It never knew so Jesus never knew they were already out there. Do you wish to ignore this fact ? or was it also part of the creation ? just not mentioned maybe God forgot he made a few earlier. 

[selious04]

@woden20, Why are Luciferians and New Agers pushing this New Age = New World, it is predicted in the Bible but because people are ignorant of what the Bible says, they don't know that these ascended masters/spirit guides are taking everything from the Bible and twisting it to go with their agenda. You don't see it because you don't read the Bible. It was all there first. The "I AM" is the Lord's name in the old testament, "Christ" is Jesus, not Christ Consciousness

[woden20]

@selious04 Pushing the New age ? With films like the Exorcist and making David Icke look like a nutter ? I see the church coming out better towards the world in their manipulations.

[selious04]

@woden20, "Light workers" "Ascension", "Illuminati", etc all this terminology about LIGHT came from LUCIFER THE LIGHT BEARER. Lucifer is not a planet, Lucifer is not separate from satan, Lucifer is the same rebellious angel from the Bible. When you do an exorcism on someone with "physic powers" the demon comes out and those powers go with it, it was never yours, it came from the demon. This is true according to the book of acts in the bible & two former Illuminatists, John Todd & BillSchnoebelen

[woden20]

@selious04 As predicted in the Bible ? Well thats because they use the Bible for their plans. Turn off your Brain and follow the Bible thats your purpose in life. That is Gods way and His chosen people. The Bible says ignore anyone who comes after me, they are false only do as he says. Sounds like Monopoly to me. What about the souls before Jesus what happens to them ? or the ones born in out the way places ? all go to hell ?

[selious04]

@woden20, It says in Deuteronomy not to dabble in the occult. It says there is no reincarnation. The Bible said there will be an anitchrist who will rule over the whole world (Maitreya), this antichrist will be flawless (handsome, charisma, speak of peace etc). The Bible said Jesus Christ is the only way (there is no mini gods on earth, nor did the Bible say he was an ascended master but these entities pervert scripture) The Bible was true back then, it is today & always will be

[woden20]

@selious04 The Freemasons have a Bible made by Freemasons with their symbol on the cover. i've been seeing if they do a David Icke book too .............No

The Bible is an old story long before Roman times. How do you know it's not a control system for the masses ? Did Jesus tell you ? or was it a demon like all the others ?

[selious04]

@woden20, The difference between Freemason's Bibles and the real Christian Bibles, are that the Freemason's Bibles have Albert Pike's writings in it and it twists scripture to indoctrinate people into believing Lucifer is the "Light", true god.

The First 94 Pages of Freemasonic Bibles are Quotes from Albert Pike.

SEE:

tinyurl [.] com/yczebse

"Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the Light... doubt it not"- Albert Pike 33°

Freemasons worship Lucifer, not Jesus Christ

[woden20]

@selious04 This is not an answer to my question ?

What happened to all the souls born before Jesus ? Hell ? 

[selious04]

@woden20, If they died before Jesus opened the gates of heaven for us, then they waited in what is called in the Old Testament Abraham's bosom known as "Paradise")That was a waiting place. Sheol is the non paradise waiting place.

[selious04]

@woden20, There are many denominations of Christianity because evil wants to infiltrate the truth. That is why the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith & founder of Jehovah's Witnesses, Charles Taze Russel, were both Freemasons. They have different doctrines of the Bible & say that they are the true church. It is why the people who rule this word are Luciferians.

"Weishaupt himself said that the word [Illuminati] is derived from Lucifer and means "Holders of the light." -Myron Fagan

[woden20]

@selious04 Was Jesus born on Dec 25th ?

Why are all the christian festivals on pagan dates to do with the sun ?

[selious04]

@woden20, Nowhere in the Bible does it say when Jesus was born, it especially does not point to December.

"And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary...And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS"

[selious04]

@woden20, Luciferians run this world, they are the ones who set these pagan holidays. The sun is in the East. Freemasons do their rituals facing East.

'Lucifer is one of the multiple names of Satan. As Lucifer, the Light-Bearer, he has his home in the East'." [Dr. Cathy Burns, "Hidden Secrets of Masonry". p. 12

"Lucifer's direction is the east, east being where a lot of the sacred wisdom and the great wars will come from"-Reverend Frederick Nagash

[somearmyguy1]

@selious04 your right its a way of muddying the waters

[OnBrokenDreams]

@selious04 something you might find interesting. Go to the edgeam and download the free ebook 'the spirit of jezebel the mystery of iniquity and the strong dilusion' its on the right hand side. Very interesting.

[selious04]

@OnBrokenDreams, Thanks so much, I'll do that.

[OnBrokenDreams]

@selious04 No problem. Let me know what you think if you read it. :o)

[selious04]

@woden20, Former Grand Druid of 13 of the Illuminati and witch John Todd (LanceCollins) gave up all the power he had in 13 states to pursue Jesus Christ. He was murdered after he was framed & imprisoned for speaking about the Illuminati to the churches. This video has a bit of his recordings from the 1970s and also has fake preachers, fake prophets, real demon recorded and provoked by a pastor, Illuminati symbols etc " Illuminati and its infiltration of Christianity"

watch?v=UzK3QeEWEYs

[woden20]

@selious04 How do you know the dead sea scrolls are the age they tell you ? you said this proves the bible is true. I hope you don't say carbon dating because you said that was crap.

What did they say about the billions of other planets galaxies and solar systems which were not visible then ? Why did God create them too ?

[selious04]

@woden20, Jesus was most likely born in March, if you add 9 months after June. Plus the sheep were in the field which means it was in warmer climate. Jesus was born in a manger, because Mary and Joseph were fleeing from Nazareth because the King of the land heard that a King had been born in Bethlehem so this angry King sought to slay every first born in Bethlehem-he was trying to kill Jesus known as the "King of the Jews".

[selious04]

@selious04, Sorry I meant to say the King wanted to slay every child under 1 year of age slain in Nazareth, not Bethlehem. Bethlehem is where they fled to.

[selious04]

@woden20,

"The High priest also mentioned the fact that while Lucifer has chosen Sunday as his holy day, the Creator has chosen the Seventh day (Saturday) of the week. It was Lucifer who influenced calling his first day of the week, the sacred day of sun

worship, “Sunday”. He explained that the 'Venerable Day of the Sun' has always been a terrible irritant to the Creator."-Roger Morneau, former spirit worshiper, was associated with the Illuminati elite

[selious04]

Even the Bible says Sun worship is an Abomination:

"Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east."-Ezekiel 8:16

[selious04]

@woden20, The Dead Sea Scrolls were written on Nash Papyrus from Egypt, containing a copy of the Ten Commandments, it is the only other Hebrew document of comparable antiquity. They were written in ancient languages (i.e. Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew)

Dr. Magen & Dr. Peleg said that the elaborate water system at Qumran appeared to be designed to bring the clay-laced water into the site for the purposes of the pottery industry. No other site in the region has been found to have such a water system.

[woden20]

@selious04 You always miss my question ?

Why did he create the billions of other Galaxies, solar systems and earth like planets ? What purpose was that.

[selious04]

@woden20, Every other planet and star is forever linked to God's timetable for mankind & the Earth. When Christ returns to Earth & completes the final act of man's redemption (2 Peter 3:9-10). He will destroy this present universe & create a new heavens & Earth (2 Peter 3:7,10; Revelations 21:1)

But what do those demons say about earth?

"It is an important time. What happens on earth now will affect the entire universe" - Teachings from the Pleiadians

watch?v=i7l0cJL7e4w

[selious04]

@woden20, Like I said and hopefully you are starting to realize now, these "spirit guides/aliens/pleiadians/ascen­ded masters" are DEMONS and they're teachings are a COUNTERFEIT of the Bible.

They tell you that you are god, "ye shall be as gods"-Satan, Genesis 3:5

They tell you to dabble in the occult to be enlightened, that is forbidden in Deuteronomy 18 in the Bible

They tell you that there will be a spiritual leader "Maitreya", the Bible predicts a world Ruler, the Antichrist

[selious04]

@woden20, Those demons are trying to bring down as many souls to hell with them by making people think they are they're own gods and doing everything the Bible tells you not to do. There is a reason they use Jesus's name for some ascended demon but will never put Jesus & Christ together. Here are people who saw the real Jesus Christ despite their beliefs:

"A Muslim Man's AMAZING Testimony about Jesus (1 of 2)"

watch?v=9MqN41iqUyw

Former catholic -Ken peters is a prophet

watch?v=3k5KpTshRdA

[selious04]

@woden20, By the way, the reason that Muslim in the video link below felt like every bone was taken out of his body and he fell on his face is because the Bible says every knee will bow and confess that He is Lord. That's how you know if this "jesus sanada" is a demon, spiritists think they're talking to the real Jesus, but if its presence does not cause you to fall on your face, then it is a demon impersonating Jesus, like this one:

"3-11 The New Age Movement"

tinyurl [.] com/2drm6rt

[woden20]

@selious04 You say you use to be like my way of thinking ? I don't think so because you have to follow something. You are not the same as me i am going on what i can see not from some teaching from a so called new age thing !!!! The Bible you follow is also the same stript illuminati follow using 666 etc, This makes you believe the Bible even more = easy to control. You have become enslaved, you will follow the illuminati priests.

[selious04]

@woden20, One of the Bible's 10 commandments is:

"Thou shalt not kill"

The Bible came before the Qur'an. The Qur'an took pieces of the Bible and then said to deny the Triune God of the Bible, "Father, Son, & the Holy Spirit".

See:

"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion...Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah...Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you"-4:171, Qur'an

tinyurl [.] com/22udptp

(it finally let me comment)

[Paakmslm]

@selious04

The Qu'ran took pieces of the Bible? Can you give me evidence that an illiterate man such as the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was able to copy the Bible? Just because there are similarities between each religion or culture dose'nt really show that one copied from another. I also saw the video of the Shiite muslim's testimony about converting to christianity. I don't think his testimony will have any impact on the Muslim community since the majority of muslims are Orthodox muslims.

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, Yes, Muhammad was so illiterate he failed to copy the correct Triune God of the Bible: According to the Quran (Surah 5:116, 5:73-75) the Christians believe in "three Gods" - Father, Mother, and Son. That is false, Christianity has always distinctly stated that the Trinity is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The Injil (Arabic إنجيل (or Injeel) is the Arabic name for the Christian gospel (Bible), one of the 4 books required to read for "guidance and light" -Al-Maeda 5:46, Qur'an

[Paakmslm]

@selious04

Sura 5:116 is a response to those that worshipped Mary in the past such as the Collyridians and the Roman Catholics today, it doesn't say anything about trinity or Mary being part of the trinity, that's just a misinterpretation of your part. Sura 5:73 doesn't even mention Mary, so how did you come to the conclusion that the Holy Quran and Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) said that Mary was part of the trinity?

[selious04]

If satan can't prevent the truth, then he will pervert it. That is why The New Age Movement have Jesus as one of their "ascended masters". But when they channel these demons, they teach a completely different doctrine of the Bible. The Lord said that witchcraft, channeling, and all that occult practice is an ABOMINATION. Muhammad had no right to lie about Jesus Christ. He even so boldly claims the angel that attacked him was from god. Hadiths prove Muhammad received the Qur'an by CHANNELING

[Paakmslm]

@selious04

Wow, that's alot to respond to. I never intended to turn this into a debate. I honestly don't think that the verses you mentioned contradict one another. Point A and E simply refers to the embryology of the individual before they are born. B,C,D metaphorically refers to humans being made of physical matter. The being Muhammad (PBUH) met was the angel Gabriel, read the end of bukhari vol 9 book 87 #111, a christian man named waraqa even testifies that it was Gabriel in the cave.

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, The angel Gabriel appeared more times in the Bible than that one time in the Qur'an and yet Gabriel NEVER ATTACKED any of God's prophets. Satan transformed into an angel of light and USED FEAR & ATTACKED Muhammad to force him to bring about a misconstrued doctrine of the Bible (Injeel).

Look I agree we should expose satan's new age cult but how can two work together when they are constantly in conflict with each other? The Qur'an is very aggressive towards Christians and Jews

[Paakmslm]

@selious04

Muhammad(PBUH)receiving divine revelation for the first time was powerful and out of the ordinary, so of course he would be terrified of the experience. I think you are miscounstruing someone being pressed as an "attack". He didnt receive any physical injuries or trauma and his later encounters with Gabriel was similar to the encounters previous prophets had with Gabriel, read Sahih Muslim book 1 #1. If this was an evil spirit, then the prophet would have been tormented continuously

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, The Hadiths describe Muhammad received visions/ the Qur'an while he was in a trance. That is called WITCHCRAFT in the Bible. Christians are not allowed to channel entities because they are demonic. But here Muhammad is getting this Antichrist book called the Qur'an to lead people astray. Just like Jane Roberts received VOLUMES of books on the NEW AGE by an ENTITY named "SETH", Muhammad also received the Qur'an & it's obviously not from God because the Quran has CONTRADICTIONS

[Paakmslm]

@selious04

The prophet (pbuh) received revelation from God by various means, such as an angel coming into a form of a man and he even received revelations while he was fully conscious and awake as far as I know. He never intentionally placed himeself in a trance like New age cults do. The Islamic revelations ARE from God. 1 John 4:1-3 states that whoever says Jesus came into the flesh and is from God is a truthful spirit. Quran acknowledges Jesus came into the flesh and is from God (4:171).

[selious04]

@Paakmslm,"Then the angel (Jibril/Gabriel) caught me (Muhammad) forcefully and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more." -Hadith 1:3, Aisha

Why would God's messenger ATTACK his own prophet? Because it wasn't of God, that was satan, predicted in the Bible, which came HUNDREDS of years before the Qur'an:

"And no marvel; Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."-2 Corinthians 11:14, Bible

[Paakmslm]

con't

Read 1 john 4: 1-3 again. Muhammad(PBUH) never lied about Jesus(PBUH) Look at the virgin birth(Sura 21:91), the holy spirit(2:87), and again Islam even acknowledges that Jesus came into the flesh by the word of God(4:171) passing the biblical test of 1 John chapter 4 as well as acknowledging the fact of his second coming and slaying the anti-christ. The"new age jesus"dosen't even mention any of this. Rather than quarreling among ourselves,we should be exposing Satan and his new age cult.

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, Indeed John says there are many false prophets, moreover you should have read what else John said:

"Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation [atonement] for our sins."-1 John 4:10

Qur'an denies Jesus's crucifixion to atone for our sins:

Sura 4:157- That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them"

[Paakmslm]

cont

Also, read Daniel 10:7. The people around daniel didnt see Gabriel, yet they were still terrified and fled, daniel couldnt flee since he was too weak from fasting.The prophet still passes the test since crucifixtion,trinity etc. was not part of the criteria in verses1-3, these are theological differences between our religions. In Sura 2:62 it speaks positively about Jews and Christians, and other verses criticizes them. Criticism isnt being aggressive since our faiths are always criticized

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, Qur'an is AGGRESSIVE:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers"

Quran (4:74) - "Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

[Paakmslm]

@selious04

Its funny how you conveniently left out verse 2:190, the verse before 2:191. "Fight in the cause of Allah THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU, but DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; for Allah loveth not transgressors (2:190). The bible is peaceful? compare the story of Saul in 1 Samuel 15 and beginning in Sura 2:246 and you will see for yourself. I know 1 Samuel is old testament, but its still the same Judeo-Christian God you worship that supposedly gave Saul the commands to slay innocent children, women.

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, That's where you need to read deeper into the Bible, with what really happened with Adam & Eve because that's where all these

"elite bloodlines" came from. To make it short, Cain was not Adam's son. the sin Eve committed was having sex with the fallen angel Lucifer/satan. That is why when when they sinned they made APRONS to cover their PRIVATES. If they ate something, then they would have covered their mouths. SEE:

"The Watchers (fixed)"

watch?v=jubyvuiaWSw

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, The BIBLE is PEACEFUL

"But I [Jesus] say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smitten [hit] thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again"-Luke 6:27-29

[Paakmslm]

@selious04

I think this has gone on for too long now. Hopefully you and other Christians will consider the evidence for Islam objectively. Peace

Say (O Muhammad SAW):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah. Then, if they turn away, say:"Bear witness that we are Muslims"(bowing to Allah's will) 3:64.

[selious04]

@Paakmslm,

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my [Jesus's] sake"-Mathew 10:16-18

Only by the power & love of Jesus Christ would a muslim convert to Christianity. Jesus's prophecies come true. Today Muslims execute "honor killings" on converts

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, The Qur'an is NOT of God:

What was man created from, blood, clay, dust, or nothing?

A. "Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2)

B. "We created man from sounding clay" (15:26)

C. "He created him from dust" (3:59)

D. "We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67)

E: "He has created man from a sperm-drop (16:4)

If Allah was the true god, he would not have contradictions and lies and he wouldn't have needed to tell you to go read the Bible for Guidance and Light

[selious04]

@Paakmslm, Here's proof that this New Age Movement is against Muslims, Jews and Christians, because we are the only ones who will not submit to this end times deception:

"Witness Testimony!! WATCH JESUS the CHRIST vs Maitreya Antichrist!!!"

watch?v=y-VLasO7gNk

[selious04]

@woden20, As you can see, if you study the Bible, you'll find that all of the occult and especially the Illuminati are complete opposite of the Bible.

"Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing" -John 18:20

[woden20]

@selious04 This is just quotes from the Bible a book which i don't believe. You need blind faith and once you see the manipulation from that ONE view your hooked into a small world which you are a slave to a book. They know this and use it to herd people.

The purpose of your life is to submit to a power.

watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

[selious04]

@woden20, No I submit to the One who created me, the one who loves me unconditionally. I've told you before that I used to be in the same boat as you, I had your way of thinking, but through research I started to see that the Illuminati were Luciferians, they worship the fallen angel of the Bible, not the Qur'an, not the Vedas or any other "holy" book, but the Bible. When I repented of my sins that day I asked for the Lord to show me the truth, GREAT PEACE and LOVE filled me like nothing before

[woden20]

@selious04 This is it .................

watch?v=30djD-HRUDk&feature=pl­ayer_embedded#!

[selious04]

HYDROLOGIC CYCLE-

"All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again." - Ecclesiastes 1:7

NUMBER OF STARS ARE UNCOUNTABLE

"the host of heaven cannot be numbered" -Jeremiah 33:22

Galileo (1564-1642) was first to discover that the number of stars cannot be counted

AIR HAS WEIGHT

God "establishes weight for the winds" -Job 28:25

Evangelista Torricelli (1643) invented the barometer discovering that air has weight

[woden20]

@selious04 So did God make all the other Galaxies ? and did he do that in seven days aswell ?

I don't want to change you if your happy thats good. It is you who wants to brand me as wrong with demons as mates. You don't know me only that i don't believe in the Bible. I am not a bad person, i'm responsible for my life and actions and no one else. That includes you satan.

[selious04]

@woden20, With my desperate heart I asked Jesus if He is the True God then I repent of all my sins & ask for forgiveness and to show me He is the One because I don't know what to believe anymore. At that moment I felt the most beautiful peace fill me, I've never been able to feel during New Age practices. I realized the truth that day. I've never let go of the Lord since, nor will I ever. Miracles happen in my life now & I have no more fear. The Bible comes alive, I didn't understand it before

[selious04]

@woden20, Christians have been exposing the truth, the corruption more than you think. Here are former Illuminatists, Freemasons & Occultists, who have sought the truth and converted to Christianity, some have been silenced:

John Todd (Lance Collins) former Grand Druid of 13 of the Illuminati (was framed, imprisoned & killed the day he won his freedom)

Bill Schnoebelen, former 90th degree Freemason and satanic High Priest, Illuminatist (he also had spirit guides)

Svali,-born in the Illuminati

[woden20]

@selious04 Like i said they will use the Bible to get their way

watch?v=GTFmU_q0ErU

[gazpaul007]

i not sure i agree here, u see spirit guides are of the light and they dont harm u lol they work in thought form mostly to give u advices and ideas through your lifetime.

[greatsinailove]

Strong testimonies.....

/watch?v=u3BTtii4fIY

/watch?v=NLVhsph2JpY

/watch?v=H7dpGWYZMDc&feature=c hannel

[XOccultistsForChrist]

Great testimony!