1990 Carpenter International School Bus

[schindlerman96]

my bus drivers 06 CE300 the transmission died on it so for a while she said it would be a while for it was fixed so we are riding on a 95 carpenter international

[giannial1985]

I still like watching this video. I like the sound of the AT-545 with the DT-466. Sounds no different then when it's mated to the DT-360.

[schindlerman96]

@giannial1985 hey bud I am same way I still to watch this old video of this bus I havent ever heard one mated with DT-360 but I am sure it doesnt sound to much different

[giannial1985]

@schindlerman96 Yeah, growing up, my driver had a 1990 65 pass. Ward Volunteer, International DT-360 with the AT-545 and the whine from it was very prominent. Even louder then in this video. Always loved the sound of it, especially mixed with the 360. :)

[home3407]

I like buses who have that engine who makes that sound like that. DT466 buses are my favorites.

[brian93ist]

which international bus is a cab-over has the motor in the back?

[JAYCUB912]

The District i drive for use some kind of 90s BlueBird/Carpenter/Internation­al S1700.....i personally haven't driven one, but they sound nice for an older bus...

being i drive a 90s Thomas SAF T LINER White Top RE.

[arcofadiver1]

I recently started driving for my local school district and they still have a lot of old Internationals and Freightliners. Most of which are stickshift. Is the Freightliner you drive a stick?

[coolbluelights]

LOVE the sound of those old internationals!

[panamic855]

is that a dt360?

[arcofadiver1]

No, it's a DT466.

[schindlerman96]

my school district has a lot of carpenters from the 90's monday and tuesday of this week my regular bus was being borrowed and i rode a 95 carpenter international with the DT466 i dont think none of the carpenters my district has or T444E just DT466 and maybe DT466E

[arcofadiver1]

I've never heard of DT466E.

[schindlerman96]

DT466 and DT466E do not have that big of difference the 466E is mostly on newer internationals maybe like 2000 and up

[techedtchr]

@arcofadiver1 DT466E = electronically controlled DT466. The engine that's in this bus is mechanically controlled (no computer).

[Intocable8306]

I remember riding 87-2, Carpenter International when I was younger. I never saw a bus like these before with their brown seats, Such a distinct type of brown you don't normally see in buses.

[arcofadiver1]

Yeah the other Carpenter my company had had greenish colored seats. The brown seats definitely stood out when I drove this bus for the first time.

[jminnesota]

I am a fan of the DT/466 myself. when i was in school after they went from S1700and S1800s to International 3800 most had DT/466 a few had T444E and those always seem to give them problems. DT/466 would run forever pretty much.

[arcofadiver1]

Yeah my company has owned 2 T444E buses and both of them have had way more mechanical issues than the DT466.

[jminnesota]

when i was in school our company had 1980s S1700 and S1800 and the ones with DT/466 had the little DT/466 logo on the hood they always seem to run good. even when they got Navistar 3800 the DT/466s ran better then the T444E. They only had 2 with T444E rest were DTs and those 2 were always in the shop then they trade them off and added more DT/466

[Geforce2187]

This is the engine on some of the buses I rode in elementary school. 7.3L V8 engine right?

[arcofadiver1]

I think so.

[giannial1985]

This is the 7.6L DT466 V6 :) The 7.3L V8 is called the T444E

[zusca159]

i think my 07 ic ce300 with a dt466 maxxforce engine has a at545 allison automatic. pst all i know is that its an allison

[giannial1985]

Nope, Allison stopped making the 4 speed AT545 in the late 90's. Your's would have there newer 5 speed auto.

[ClassicTVMan81]

The MT-643 was also available in the same period, and it was superior to the AT-545 in that it had a locking torque converter to save fuel.

[giannial1985]

True, and the MT-643 was way smoother shifting and quieter then the AT-545

[schindlerman96]

there is a bus at my school that maxxforce DT on it

[giannial1985]

Yeah, the maxxforce DT you have would most likely be the 7.6L DT466 like the bus in this video has :)

[BusDriverStevo]

i drive a 97 int thomas 466e with a 5spd spicer trans

[maineboy1979]

Music to my ears! Carpenter + 466 = great combo.

[schindlerman96]

amen it does

[giannial1985]

Actually, from the sound of it, this bus does have the AT-545 mated to the DT466. Which is rare. The MT-643 doesn't whine at all.

[chorald]

I loooooooooove the sound of a dt466 whit the At-545. At high rpm's, et sounds almost like a cummins.

[gajda1984]

i'm pretty sure it's probably got an MT-643. AT-545s can't handle the torque of the DT466. They were usually mated to T444Es and other versions of the "powerstroke".

[dodger8822]

at my district, all of the old full size Internationals are DT466s mated to AT-545s... slow as hell but they do work...

and we also got a shorty T444E mated to an AT-545 and a pair of Vista shorties, same thing.

[schindlerman96]

could you make more

[arcofadiver1]

of this bus?

[RobertPaniagua]

Also, how long is it, 71 Passenger Seats? as in 71-13" seats?

[arcofadiver1]

It's a 64 passenger with 12 rows of seats. My company also has a 1997 Amtran International which is 71-13". I have yet to make a video of it though.

[schindlerman96]

my bus driver used to have a 1998 amtran international now she has an 2009 thomas C2 mercedes

[arcofadiver1]

My company has a 1997 amtran international. I haven't made a video of it yet though.

[schindlerman96]

could you make a video of the 1997 amtran international if you cant thats okay please reply if you can or cant

[arcofadiver1]

I won't have time to make one until school is out. What kind of video did you have in mind?

[schindlerman96]

i understand i will be out of school June 1st the kind of video i had in mind was like do a walk around of the 97 amtran international and then in the video do a start up and drive of the bus is kind of what i had in mind and if there is any other buses your company do a video similar to the one im requesting and also when do you get out of school until you can do this i still enjoy what videos you have uploaded please reply as soon as possible arcofadiver1 thanks schindlerman96

[bluebirdgmc83]

Nice video! Is that a DT360 or a DT466?

[arcofadiver1]

DT466. What's crazy is that my company also has a 1993 and a 1997 International and they are both T444E and the 1990 has the most power.

[bluebirdvision]

The DT466 is a more powerful and durable engine than the 444-E

[dodger8822]

the DT466 is a straight-six

the T444 is a V8

DT466 > T444