Star Trek - Classical music interlude

[4DArcade]

On a forum (dance music) and a thread was made about scores ... Mind jumped right to this... LLAP :)

[bellerophon602]

Easily one of my all-time favourite Brahms pieces. Thank you for posting.

[luno44]

they need some transparent green space symbols ;)

[vcatania]

I believe this recording is from the Raphael Ensemble. Recorded in 1988.

[kgskaug]

@vcatania I am listening to the Raphael Ensemble recording as we speak, it is not the same one.

[williestratton]

sarek... star trek without the t's

[picardkid]

@williestratton mind=blown

[williestratton]

@picardkid YOU'RE WELCOME.

[ScottDanielJackson]

@williestratton

so it is

[thecopykidofthestarz]

The Piece Data is playing has heavy Vibrato yet he doesn't move his left hand.

[YHWHO]

so, is the future to be found in the past?

[theinquisitor]

@YHWHO, you haven't been watching "Threshold" have you?

[YHWHO]

@theinquisitor

now you have got me loo...// neigh,

rather *inquisiting* for "Threshold" ;)

.

PS we don't want to inquisit Nature

but rather to ask...

Her

!

[theinquisitor]

@YHWHO, have you been inhaling Omicron spores?

[YHWHO]

@theinquisitor

when my Tenebras weren't Vinced yet

i used to know a thing or 2 about the Andromeda Spores

today i tend to think of SciFi as kinda beclouding/tenebrating

(and accordingly do shy away from it) so it is unlikely for me

to inhale such corrupting critters... even mentalwise ;-)

(i can't vouch for my *stupid* computer though!!!!!)

[theinquisitor]

@YHWHO, I think I would agree if I wasn't in such a state of perplexifaction. When a Firefly dies before it's time, we yearn for the scorpion to sting the Fox. You will be syndicated. Insistence is nubile. Or something.

[YHWHO]

@theinquisitor

.

n

ow

having

successfully

departed from reason

we presently attain the...

***resonance plain*** :---)

[MrFlipske]

Wow this is so obviously faked lol

[theinquisitor]

@MrFlipske, the ship isn't real either. It's all sets and models.

[XxShiro911xX]

@theinquisitor OMG how can they lie to us like this, what has my sad lonely miserable life been reduced to?

[PaulGrantDesigns]

Kind of odd that they're still wearing their uniforms when playing. You'd assume they'd want to inject some personal stylings not just in their music but wardrobe.

[shalakusan]

このシーンは感情を絶対出すことのないバルカン人が病で感情が出­るようになってしまいピカードに気づかれるという名シーンです。

この時の演奏している曲を知りたく、当時発売すぐのＭＤウォーク­マンへ音声を録音しタワーレコードへ持参、クラシック担当の店員­さんに聞いてもらいましたが店員さんもわからず　それから10数年後ネットで偶然発見と！そんな私にとっての思い­で深い曲です。物知らずの私の長い時を跨いだ曲になりましたが　忘れ得ぬ名曲として生涯聞いていくと思います　

[theinquisitor]

@shalakusan, that's easy for you to say.

[hamlet1976]

@theinquisitor LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GoldieG89]

Good to see Brahms up and kicking in the 24th century.

[fiandrhi]

Apparently string technique has advanced to the point that a quartet can play music written for a sextet.

[TeeJayMarsh]

@fiandrhi I'm wondering exactly WHO is the sextet (or quartet?) playing this piece. It's Brahm's String Sextet number 1, second movement andante ma moderato. But, we know the crew/actors aren't playing it. What recording of it is this? It's quite beautiful, much nicer than the orchestral one on you tube.

[theinquisitor]

@TeeJayMarsh, indeed, it's enough to make a Vulcan cry.

[calkingjames]

well... shouldn't this be a sextet??

[DeCivitateDei]

What a beautiful scene. It is like the ending of Chaplin's City Lights, or the the Surrounding scene from F. Langs's' "M", or the shot of the brook in Stalker.

[ROSE911GUNDAM]

too bad data's an android. he can play the music perfectly but has not the ability to appreciate the music he plays...

[theinquisitor]

Perhaps when he got his emotion chip he could.

[AMVlurver]

When I saw Data I said, "OH MY GOSH COOL!"

[OrionAram]

LMAO @ the creeper in 0:42. Did he hear the tear forming in all that?

But all jokes aside, this was a really well written scene. It is amazing so much is said without words.

[enigmadragonwings]

@ OrionAram

he's vulcan, and they have heightened senses, so he could have heard that. and the man who teard up was also vulcan, and they are not supposed to show (or indulge in) their emotions like that..

if i have understood this right..

[theinquisitor]

Vulcans are also mildly telepathic, and so he could have sensed Sarek's emotion that way.

The reason they suppress emotion is because their emotions are much stronger than in humans. If they don't control their emotions, their emotions would control them.

In this episode, Sarek is losing his ability to control his emotions as succumbs to old age. A kind of Vulcan Alzheimers.

[OrionAram]

Are you being perfectly serious right now?

[enigmadragonwings]

i am. don't know if im totally right though.. hope i am ^^.

but what i gather thats how it is. didn't think about their telepathic ability, thats a more reasonable explanation..

so, all points goes to theinquisitor :)

[Timrath]

Playing a sextet with only 4 instruments: now, that's what I call science fiction. :D

[Neropoo]

Indeed

[manco82]

Stop hating on the actors - they did the best they could.

[trekmaster78]

I own this track on CD. It's really a great moment, highly emotional....Spock's father Sarek is suffering on the Bendii-Syndrome, a pathological lack on emotional control...

[Liquidessa]

What CD?

[mercurious77]

what a brilliant scene. They brought the story into motion without saying a single word, merely with their facial expressions set to preexisting music. Show me an actor that can do that on tv today.

[Beroean30]

there is a lot of romanticism about the past in the trek universe. A lot of stuff we like now is from the past, thus I dont see the [problem with bweing nostalgic and using wooden instruments

[highelves01]

i would like a mp3 of this song

[su108]

Please could some one point me to a complete piece of thhis wonderful work of art. I dont need to download it just to listen to it in a complete version would be great.

[MrChompenstein]

the song being played is from Brahms Sextet No. 1, and is the second movement "Andante, ma moderato"

[Aeon135]

still prefer babylon 5

[grandmapa]

Amazing. Even in the distant future we will still be playing (presumably) wood instruments. In space.

[jeremyvanselow]

its brahms sextet...in Bb...second movement...

[Anarkyll]

BEAUTIFUL!! But this is NOT Mozart!!!!

[Fallansig]

It doesn't sound right... but I think it's because it's been taken down to a quartet. And all they did is completely remove the second cello and viola without even properly arranging it...

[linuxxe]

Haha, they're obviously not musicians... or not string players anyway. Some CIM classmates of mine performed this piece in class today; now that was riveting!

[Yuyuyami]

Retard.

[Aeon135]

the man who plays data is actualy a very talented musician and singer

[linuxxe]

Perhaps, but he's certainly not a violinist.

[Aeon135]

no, i dont think hes playing that piece, since this piece cant be played by just 4 people

[lordnifield]

For us violinists on the other hand it's always painfully obvious when it's fake... dead on indicator is the fact that they move their entire bow arm... real violinists only move the bottom half of their arm and turn their wrist...

[theinquisitor]

I can understand why that would be annoying lordnifield. Physicists go mad at the transporters too.

Although it would be hard to explain away the inconsistencies in musical performance with a science fiction explanation. Maybe they're special 24th century violins that work differently.

I guess they just screwed up. They're on a tight schedule and probably didn't have the time to train the actors properly. It's understandable that it would be irritating to a violinist though.

[chacmool1st]

theinquisitor:

It´s a show, but what an impressive one. I also have to critisize things concerning the natural science, but at least they try to make things as realistic as the production cost allow. So, forgive them the mistakes. For me, it was good to see this. Now I know the name of the music. Thanks.

[theinquisitor]

"So, forgive them the mistakes"

Oh I do. Most of them. But some things just can't be forgiven. Like the Voyager episode "Threshold" and the original series "Spock's Brain".

But it's the uniquely brilliant and inspiring core of Star Trek that keeps me watching again and again despite it's many flaws.

[cassandra5322]

lolol spock's brain,that was totally funny. especially when scotty unconvincingly play faints. and that it actually worked.

[Tb0neZ5]

haha i know what you mean, im a guitarist and i see actors using improper techniques as well, but its a show you gotta deal with it.

[fortheloveofLDS]

Agreed. What bothered me, when I was watching this, is the fact that the instrument was making vibrato sounds, and yet the movement [or lack thereof] of his fingers didn't indicate that that should have been so.

Oh well. It's not like this turned me away from TNG.

[admiralwacky]

theatrical effect maybe i dunno

[fluffycommander]

@lordnifield I still believe the meaning behind the music is more important than the acting technique employed to convey it. /me slaps self for sounding arty

[kgskaug]

Greetings to all Trekkies out there with a recording of this episode! I've heard at least a dozen different recordings of this sextet but none that sounded like this. Not saying it's necessarily superior, just different.

So, can anybody tell me (from the credits, probably) who the real musicians are behind this? (ensemble name or whatever)? Thanks, and Live long and prosper!

[ScriabinMan]

Wait a minute.  This is Brahms' sextet in Bb, the second movement in d minor. But there are only four players! Someone goofed.

[theinquisitor]

I think the computer is playing the other instruments through the ship's comm system. Trekkies will always find a way to make it work.

[jlcurole]

Thanks for adding this.

It is a powerful song and fantastic episode.

[iluvanimorphs]

man, i never got to watch that episode!

[theinquisitor]

Definitely worth finding a copy of it, it's a good one.

[LockeCol]

I just love this whole scene, thanks for that.

[pviola314]

brahms sextet in Bb major second movement

[m01241984]

I am wondering if you know the name of this piece of music? I'm DYING to know! Thanks! :)

[theinquisitor]

It's in the description box. Why doesn't anyone read the description box?

[m01241984]

I'm sorry, I'm sort of computer-stupid! My mom was asking me to find out for her, and I guess I don't know how to use my resources! Thank you for your help, though there was no need to be a little "cocky ass" about it!

[theinquisitor]

Yeah sorry about that, I was in a bad mood when I posted that message. That's no excuse though. Much apologisings.

[m01241984]

No problem! We all have bad days! :)

[Aeon135]

only star trek fans can be that sensible, if this was a halo tread..well, expect more cuses then real words^^

[lsudolemite]

Like "The Inner Light", this episode showed off a lot of Patrick Stewart's acting range, in the mind-melding scene with Sarek, where he struggles to deal with a host of powerful emotions.

[Cyraka]

The part were Sarek gets Pissed is my favorite part in this episode.

[GodlessLitany]

Lovely piece, wonderful episode.

[catjacksonus]

the sad thing is it's a sextet. there are two players missing from the stage but the sounds are there.

[theinquisitor]

Maybe the computer was filling in the missing instruments through the communications system. 24th century speakers would be as good as the real thing. That's a stretch, but trekkies are used to doing that sort of thing to make sense of things in star trek that really don't make sense.

[Talalinen]

So they must be incredibly good: the first violinist is playing the 1st viola's part with a viola's sound at the beginning ;)

[mathildemaijer]

watch how the second violinist plays: obviously never done before.

[theinquisitor]

Perhaps they could have spent more time coaching his performance, but they have such a tight schedule on Star Trek. Sadly Brent Spiner can't learn as quickly as Data.

[tbgrace]

lovely piece.