How ingenuous. Just like the President's "Change" wasn't what we stupid humans thought it would be? I guess we weren't from the same planet as the President.
-Bizzorro world
Incidentally, Rachel maddow is very transparent and suspect. She can't seem to pull it off when going after the GOP. Perhaps some re-education at Comrad Central is in order.
I'm neither for Reps or Dems, so I have no dog in this fight because I think they're both the same. But @ 6:15, that was a blatant dishonest edit to make it seem like Cantor was saying "no" to compromise when he was obviously talking about a tax issue. Msnbc did the same edit trick against Rand Paul and his stance on the civil rights bill.
Dems do play wedge issues, dream act i'm against is a wedge issue BUT they do NOT edit like the right! AT ALL! Sherrel Sheroid?
And yeah on the issue of tax cuts he said no compromise! just that no compromise! go down the list, THE most use of the filibuster EVER has happened under the R's... its not EVEN close. AT ALL.
And as for Rand Paul, he's a liar jack ass... i respect Ron Paul but rand is no Ron.
#2 Rand Paul is just a spoiled power hungry fraud, living off the hard work of his daddy. His whole stance on the civil rights NEEDED to be called into question, he didnt mention once in a list of unconstitutional things, he REPEATEDLY brought it up himself OVER & OVER again, writing EDITORIAL letters to newspapers about!
Why didnt he bring up the fact that a standing army in unconstitutional! he didnt write into ANY newspapers about that, picking&choosing shows motives.
@benympls What does this have to do with the edit in this video? I don't care about your opinions one way or the other, nor do I care about Rand Paul. I was pointing out the dishonest edit @ 6:15, which is the same dishonest way they edited Rand Paul's comments.
what was dishonest about the edit, Cahntor has said repeatedly he will NOT compromise on taxes, thats what she was talking about compromise.... the edit of the black guy with AR-15 WAS a dishonest edit, i've rewatched this several times but that WAS what cahntor was saying and HAS said many other times
@ked1066 --- well thanks, even though i know i am in minority of those who will verbalize these thoughts here, there are many silent "Dean Progressives" who feel exactly this way... They are just more polite and well mannered. I am just tired of expressing it politely, because what does THAT do? It's just water off a duck's back. Oh yes, the so called liberal base are "disappointed". No, the "liberal base" has always been the wrong word. Liberals are mythology. "Liberals" are people who
@quicksite (2) --- vote for Nancy Pelosi and call that "liberal", because Fox News brands it as liberal. They are actually centrists. Centrist Democrats (aka Liberals) and Centrist Republicans elected Obama. Progressives voted for him, yes, with no choice, but never were behind him. We were never his base because he;s never been a leader for anything progressive or traditional liberal. His thermostat is set at maximum "centrist". It doesn't go any higher. Never will. Dreamers still dream.
@dennist3hmenace You do remember the 20's preceded the Great Depression, right? Or do you just see things as though in a Magic 8 Ball, in suspended animation, independent of any operating rules or fundamentals? You seem to be in favor of the new Republican initiative: Which would drain the US treasury of sorely needed revenue when we are in a critical deficit that is killing people's livelihoods and running our debt further into China's hands. Please explain why this is a good thing. If you can
@RichardSFusa 1I'll let Tom Woods do it for me. Here's a lecture about the "Depression of 1920" that ended quickly because gov't stayed out of the way and allowed the market correction to occur. watch?v=czcUmnsprQI.
2Yes deficits are huge, not because revenue is too low, but because spending is too high.
3If you believe tax cuts cost the gov't money, you're saying that the gov't owns 100% of what a person earns, and allowing a person to keep more of what they earn costs the gov't that money.
@dennist3hmenace You have a lot of growing up to do. Peter Schiff is super smart & I admire him too. But at 24 for you to go parrot people & tag John Stossel as man of Wisdom & then let others speak for you in video shows you know next to nothing about real life on your own. Do you have a job? ((deficits are huge, not because revenue is too low, but because spending is too high.)) You idiot. When did this magically begin happening? Of course it's high. The joke is: with GOP it's ALWAYS higher
@dennist3hmenace #3: state your job. What wealth have you created for yourself. You're another full of shit backwoods wishful thinker "I'm gunna be ri-i-i-i-i-i-ch sum day, an when i am, those dum dummocrats bitter git their stinkin hands off mah money!" You guys are a joke. No way you have a joib better than greeter at Walmart, but "Guvmint bitter not takes mah money or prevent me from being rich". Hillbilly logic keeps you and fellow Gomer Pyles in poorhouse while you wax wistfully lalaland.
@RichardSFusa I'm actually a surgical assistant employed in a vascular access center. (While pursuing a MS degree) There are surprisingly many people who share my view points in the medical field. We've seen first hand how gov't intervention has unintended consequences that invariable make the situation worse.
It's also worth noting that instead of refuting my points, offering counter examples, or even denying a premise, you resort to ad hominem attacks against my character and intelligence.
@dennist3hmenace Then I will apologize for attacks on your ability to advance in our free market system. But to scold me for not refuting your points? I did refute them. I said spending has been too high under every administration and if you like math, you can go to the charts and study them because the numbers are blatant: Deficits consistently have ben greater under Republicans in past 25 years vs Dems, in spite of lockstep preachy dogma. Let me use an analogy you can follow: It's as if
@RichardSFusa (2) cont'd --- you pay attention to the vascular monitoring displays on your floor on Mondays Tuesdays & Wednesday and have lots of action items that flow from the data; & on Thurs, Fri, Sat, you don't even look at them at all but pretend as though "oh yeah I'm monitoring them". Bullshit. By your selective framing in previous posts, you believe deficits suddenly got bad under THIS admin because it's THIS Admin that has the spending prob. If you're going to monitor, do it 7x/week
This is pathetic: Such a ridiculous charade we have to go through all because of that f*g Obama's ego: CONTINUING to think, after failure after failure after failure, that this mythical land in his dreams called "post-partisan" America exists, and that he, and only he, the Professor, can coax it it out of an unwilling Republican Party. I couldn't stand him all during the 08 election cycle; he was a clear pussy then; he has proven me right on every single occasion.
@quicksite (2) --- cont'd - AND YET, millions of alleged "liberals" put their faith in Mr. Hope with chants of YES WE CAN and other ad slogans... and CONTINUED to defend this ass while he abandoned THEM for 6 or 9 months after taking possession of white house, courting Republicans and not one liberal, not one progressive --- BANKING IT ALL on Republicans and his fairytale, hubristically believing he had a second miracle up his sleeve -- after shattering history books as first African American
@quicksite (3) ---cont'd -- President in US History. No, that was not goood enough for Professor I'm Amazing. He was not only going to prove Dreams of My Father, he was not only going to PERSONIFY the melting pot of America, he was also going to BEHNIHANA chop-chop the whole methodology of conducting business in DC. He was so fucking awesome he would melt the partisanship off the most frigid of the closeted homo Republican obstructionist leaders, and usher in his NEW ERA of Emerald City.
@quicksite -- cont'd (4) -- what a frikkin' Horse's Ass. Month after month, while Democrats were working on a stimulus bill to rescue the colossal trainwreck Bush leaves Obama with -- the Mortgage bubble blowout on top of record deficits due to his unilateral war without cause -- Obama spends ALL his political capital courting these closeted homos, while he kicks Howard Dean progressives to the curb with a defiant and calculated F*YOU by having Rahm be his Chief of Staff -- and what does it
@quicksite (5) --cont'd -- yield him? What is the result of his great craftsmanship of post-partisanship let's break bread together fellas? ZERO Republican votes on Stimulus bill. ZERO, not even one. After all his 6 months PLUS of scratching their backs, bending over backwards a la Larry Craig in a Minnesota bathroom stall, just so eager to please, and prove the Professor's mastery. ... So what does he do after his massive failure? Does he learn, dust himself off, and re-align his sights?
@quicksite (6) ---- FUCK NO!.... He goes right back in for more of the same. He doesn't adjust a goddamn thing. Not one. He fucks the entire health care bill by starting out with 50% compromise talk -- just as he;s doing now -- vs setting out on a mission to SELL THE DEMOCRATIC VERSION to America. ASSHOLE! total selfish frickin asshole, the Professor STILL thinks he's got the Post-Partisan game in him... He can still work the mojo, though there has been ZERO evidence of it working EVER. So yaay
@quicksite (7) --cont'd) --- YAAAY! we get healthcare! And Nancy is beaming and she's so happy that she DID IT! ... and yeah it sure as hell is bettre than nothing, there's no question. But 50% less than what could have been gotten all because the hubristic Professor is certain he can pull a rabbit out of a hat and have a greater legacy that first African American President. See that's not good enough. CUT TO: Midterm losses, thanks to him. And now, his approach is EVEN MORE compromise. IDIOT.
@davidpark68 Really, david. And you think that why? Have you looked though hundreds and hundreds of liberal videos on my playlists here chronicling the Bush Bogus War years? But you think an ultra liberal is also a black hater. I see. That makes perfect sense David. Now come back when you have a grown up thought out comment speaking on point vs a comedy sideshow.
its a cookbook. ITS A COOKBOOOOOOOOOOK!
CorileousBane41 4 months ago
I love that episode!
orbital151 7 months ago
How ingenuous. Just like the President's "Change" wasn't what we stupid humans thought it would be? I guess we weren't from the same planet as the President.
-Bizzorro world
Incidentally, Rachel maddow is very transparent and suspect. She can't seem to pull it off when going after the GOP. Perhaps some re-education at Comrad Central is in order.
Zendout1 1 year ago
I'm neither for Reps or Dems, so I have no dog in this fight because I think they're both the same. But @ 6:15, that was a blatant dishonest edit to make it seem like Cantor was saying "no" to compromise when he was obviously talking about a tax issue. Msnbc did the same edit trick against Rand Paul and his stance on the civil rights bill.
seanboy80 1 year ago
@seanboy80
#1
HAhahahaha!
the same!
are F'ing joking!
Dems do play wedge issues, dream act i'm against is a wedge issue BUT they do NOT edit like the right! AT ALL! Sherrel Sheroid?
And yeah on the issue of tax cuts he said no compromise! just that no compromise! go down the list, THE most use of the filibuster EVER has happened under the R's... its not EVEN close. AT ALL.
And as for Rand Paul, he's a liar jack ass... i respect Ron Paul but rand is no Ron.
benympls 1 year ago
@seanboy80
#2 Rand Paul is just a spoiled power hungry fraud, living off the hard work of his daddy. His whole stance on the civil rights NEEDED to be called into question, he didnt mention once in a list of unconstitutional things, he REPEATEDLY brought it up himself OVER & OVER again, writing EDITORIAL letters to newspapers about!
Why didnt he bring up the fact that a standing army in unconstitutional! he didnt write into ANY newspapers about that, picking&choosing shows motives.
benympls 1 year ago
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seanlaca 1 year ago
@benympls What does this have to do with the edit in this video? I don't care about your opinions one way or the other, nor do I care about Rand Paul. I was pointing out the dishonest edit @ 6:15, which is the same dishonest way they edited Rand Paul's comments.
seanboy80 1 year ago
@seanboy80
what was dishonest about the edit, Cahntor has said repeatedly he will NOT compromise on taxes, thats what she was talking about compromise.... the edit of the black guy with AR-15 WAS a dishonest edit, i've rewatched this several times but that WAS what cahntor was saying and HAS said many other times
benympls 1 year ago
RM When will you realize Obama is BOUGHT AND PAID FOR
"Free market" is ROOT of problems
1. how do you stop corruption caused by profit motive?
2. how do you ensures everyone has minimum necessities?
ANSWER
1. FREELY Share ALL resources & knowledge worldwide, NO more money/property
2. Use LATEST technology to create an ABUNDANCE of all our needs, NO more waste/theft
3. Automate/localize ALL production and distribution, NO more central control/wage slavery
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dontblockmedk 1 year ago
Amen, quicksite.
ked1066 1 year ago
@ked1066 --- well thanks, even though i know i am in minority of those who will verbalize these thoughts here, there are many silent "Dean Progressives" who feel exactly this way... They are just more polite and well mannered. I am just tired of expressing it politely, because what does THAT do? It's just water off a duck's back. Oh yes, the so called liberal base are "disappointed". No, the "liberal base" has always been the wrong word. Liberals are mythology. "Liberals" are people who
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (2) --- vote for Nancy Pelosi and call that "liberal", because Fox News brands it as liberal. They are actually centrists. Centrist Democrats (aka Liberals) and Centrist Republicans elected Obama. Progressives voted for him, yes, with no choice, but never were behind him. We were never his base because he;s never been a leader for anything progressive or traditional liberal. His thermostat is set at maximum "centrist". It doesn't go any higher. Never will. Dreamers still dream.
quicksite 1 year ago 2
Socialism is for the rich, Liberty provides the environment for the poor to give the rich some competition.
Peace
truefictions 1 year ago
Sanders is rite...
ADULTEDUCATION4U 1 year ago
Sanders: "They really want to move this country back to the 1920s"
You mean the "Roaring 20s"? Diabolical!
dennist3hmenace 1 year ago
@dennist3hmenace You do remember the 20's preceded the Great Depression, right? Or do you just see things as though in a Magic 8 Ball, in suspended animation, independent of any operating rules or fundamentals? You seem to be in favor of the new Republican initiative: Which would drain the US treasury of sorely needed revenue when we are in a critical deficit that is killing people's livelihoods and running our debt further into China's hands. Please explain why this is a good thing. If you can
RichardSFusa 1 year ago 2
@RichardSFusa 1I'll let Tom Woods do it for me. Here's a lecture about the "Depression of 1920" that ended quickly because gov't stayed out of the way and allowed the market correction to occur. watch?v=czcUmnsprQI.
2Yes deficits are huge, not because revenue is too low, but because spending is too high.
3If you believe tax cuts cost the gov't money, you're saying that the gov't owns 100% of what a person earns, and allowing a person to keep more of what they earn costs the gov't that money.
dennist3hmenace 1 year ago
@dennist3hmenace You have a lot of growing up to do. Peter Schiff is super smart & I admire him too. But at 24 for you to go parrot people & tag John Stossel as man of Wisdom & then let others speak for you in video shows you know next to nothing about real life on your own. Do you have a job? ((deficits are huge, not because revenue is too low, but because spending is too high.)) You idiot. When did this magically begin happening? Of course it's high. The joke is: with GOP it's ALWAYS higher
RichardSFusa 1 year ago
@dennist3hmenace #3: state your job. What wealth have you created for yourself. You're another full of shit backwoods wishful thinker "I'm gunna be ri-i-i-i-i-i-ch sum day, an when i am, those dum dummocrats bitter git their stinkin hands off mah money!" You guys are a joke. No way you have a joib better than greeter at Walmart, but "Guvmint bitter not takes mah money or prevent me from being rich". Hillbilly logic keeps you and fellow Gomer Pyles in poorhouse while you wax wistfully lalaland.
RichardSFusa 1 year ago 2
@RichardSFusa I'm actually a surgical assistant employed in a vascular access center. (While pursuing a MS degree) There are surprisingly many people who share my view points in the medical field. We've seen first hand how gov't intervention has unintended consequences that invariable make the situation worse.
It's also worth noting that instead of refuting my points, offering counter examples, or even denying a premise, you resort to ad hominem attacks against my character and intelligence.
dennist3hmenace 1 year ago
@dennist3hmenace Then I will apologize for attacks on your ability to advance in our free market system. But to scold me for not refuting your points? I did refute them. I said spending has been too high under every administration and if you like math, you can go to the charts and study them because the numbers are blatant: Deficits consistently have ben greater under Republicans in past 25 years vs Dems, in spite of lockstep preachy dogma. Let me use an analogy you can follow: It's as if
RichardSFusa 1 year ago
@RichardSFusa (2) cont'd --- you pay attention to the vascular monitoring displays on your floor on Mondays Tuesdays & Wednesday and have lots of action items that flow from the data; & on Thurs, Fri, Sat, you don't even look at them at all but pretend as though "oh yeah I'm monitoring them". Bullshit. By your selective framing in previous posts, you believe deficits suddenly got bad under THIS admin because it's THIS Admin that has the spending prob. If you're going to monitor, do it 7x/week
RichardSFusa 1 year ago
Obama: pop goes the balloon.
Sanders: boom goes the dynamite.
hergs 1 year ago
Is it just me? or does anyone have the same feeling of rejection, every time Obama speaks? It is similar to the times I would see Bush on TV.
Sad but true. Obama is a loser~winp & and poised to serve the corporate world.
topthickproducer 1 year ago 2
It is gonna be worse, Mr. President.
You will not, ever, get cooperation from the GOP.
Learn from the recent poignant past and CHANGE!
BE MORE FORCEFUL, DRAW? THE LINE!
topthickproducer 1 year ago 2
This is pathetic: Such a ridiculous charade we have to go through all because of that f*g Obama's ego: CONTINUING to think, after failure after failure after failure, that this mythical land in his dreams called "post-partisan" America exists, and that he, and only he, the Professor, can coax it it out of an unwilling Republican Party. I couldn't stand him all during the 08 election cycle; he was a clear pussy then; he has proven me right on every single occasion.
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (2) --- cont'd - AND YET, millions of alleged "liberals" put their faith in Mr. Hope with chants of YES WE CAN and other ad slogans... and CONTINUED to defend this ass while he abandoned THEM for 6 or 9 months after taking possession of white house, courting Republicans and not one liberal, not one progressive --- BANKING IT ALL on Republicans and his fairytale, hubristically believing he had a second miracle up his sleeve -- after shattering history books as first African American
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (3) ---cont'd -- President in US History. No, that was not goood enough for Professor I'm Amazing. He was not only going to prove Dreams of My Father, he was not only going to PERSONIFY the melting pot of America, he was also going to BEHNIHANA chop-chop the whole methodology of conducting business in DC. He was so fucking awesome he would melt the partisanship off the most frigid of the closeted homo Republican obstructionist leaders, and usher in his NEW ERA of Emerald City.
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite -- cont'd (4) -- what a frikkin' Horse's Ass. Month after month, while Democrats were working on a stimulus bill to rescue the colossal trainwreck Bush leaves Obama with -- the Mortgage bubble blowout on top of record deficits due to his unilateral war without cause -- Obama spends ALL his political capital courting these closeted homos, while he kicks Howard Dean progressives to the curb with a defiant and calculated F*YOU by having Rahm be his Chief of Staff -- and what does it
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (5) --cont'd -- yield him? What is the result of his great craftsmanship of post-partisanship let's break bread together fellas? ZERO Republican votes on Stimulus bill. ZERO, not even one. After all his 6 months PLUS of scratching their backs, bending over backwards a la Larry Craig in a Minnesota bathroom stall, just so eager to please, and prove the Professor's mastery. ... So what does he do after his massive failure? Does he learn, dust himself off, and re-align his sights?
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (6) ---- FUCK NO!.... He goes right back in for more of the same. He doesn't adjust a goddamn thing. Not one. He fucks the entire health care bill by starting out with 50% compromise talk -- just as he;s doing now -- vs setting out on a mission to SELL THE DEMOCRATIC VERSION to America. ASSHOLE! total selfish frickin asshole, the Professor STILL thinks he's got the Post-Partisan game in him... He can still work the mojo, though there has been ZERO evidence of it working EVER. So yaay
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (7) --cont'd) --- YAAAY! we get healthcare! And Nancy is beaming and she's so happy that she DID IT! ... and yeah it sure as hell is bettre than nothing, there's no question. But 50% less than what could have been gotten all because the hubristic Professor is certain he can pull a rabbit out of a hat and have a greater legacy that first African American President. See that's not good enough. CUT TO: Midterm losses, thanks to him. And now, his approach is EVEN MORE compromise. IDIOT.
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite you just don't like him because he's black.
davidpark68 1 year ago 2
@davidpark68 Really, david. And you think that why? Have you looked though hundreds and hundreds of liberal videos on my playlists here chronicling the Bush Bogus War years? But you think an ultra liberal is also a black hater. I see. That makes perfect sense David. Now come back when you have a grown up thought out comment speaking on point vs a comedy sideshow.
quicksite 1 year ago
Sanders is a true independent, unlike the fraudster Republicans that claim to be anti-establishment.
bulldogger 1 year ago
Man I love The Twilight Zone.
djgiga 1 year ago