From CIA declassified documents, America under the Kennedy administration orchestrated a military coup to overthrow and murder President Diem of South Vietnam government, who strongly opposed U.S. troops' presence in Vietnam because it would be used as a propaganda by communists to lure more Vietnamese to fight against South Vietnam and America; Ho chi Minh, communist leader of North Vietnam, also celebrated this coup and said, "We will win this war; I cannot believe Americans are so stupid."
Of course Kennedy won the election with the help of the mafia--but Jack was not privy to all of Papa Joe's underhand machinations and compromises he made to the mafia. Later when Bobby found out about the promises Joe Kennedy made to the Mafia in return for giving his son the election, he flipped; Bobby as attorney general disregarded the promises made to the Mafia and went after them.
Gus Russo's book, 'The Outfit'--it's not a right-wing book mind you, Russo was a consultant on Oliver Stone's movie 'JFK', he's believes there was a conspiracy involved in the JFK killing but not to the idiotic extent that Stone says in JFK.
JFK was no saint--he was a womanizer, and was involved deeply with the CIA and its underhand dealings. So was his brother, Bobby. The Liberal Thought Police want us to think otherwise, but even people like Noam Chomsky know Camelot was what it was: a myth.
well I think George Bush was a adequate president, he tries his best.. yet a lot of the things he's done has not worked out for him, god bless him and god bless nixon.
'Adequate"!! Are you on crack!! He has lied, cheated and caused the United States of America to fall into the worst economical mess in our history! Bush has spent more money than ALL Presidents of the US...COMBINED!! PERIOD!!!
To be fair the President wasn't the one who caused the economic crisis though he failed to stop it. Congress passes the budgets and stimulus programs and etc etc. So it wouldn't be right to blame the president for any of that, though he has royally screwed up in other ways.
Hmmm... Looking at that eletion as a whole, isn't it funny how much it resembles the current one? An older more experienced republican, against a young bold inexperienced democrat promising change, with the biggest issues being a troubled economy and potential war along with a major section of the planet being hostile to the US?
Good observation. I completely forgot how identical the polemics of the Clinton vs Bush election were to the current Obama vs McCain election. Politics seems to run in circles.
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Kennedy couldn't hold a candle up to our current greatest President Bush. He was a lib. Remember that people.
I just wish George Bush could run again. He has been an inspiration to me these past 8 years. Thank you Bush for 8 wonderful years of service to this nation. Our Grandchildren will one day build the biggest statue of you in your honor 100 years from now and kiss the feet of that statue in gratitude. Thank you so much.
Your grandchildren wouldn't have two sticks to rub together with this idiot in the white HOuse any longer. Hey Dave98503, your village called, they miss their idiot.
you are obviously saying these things just to get a reaction. No true American, with even half a brain, could believe that Bush actually helped this country.
I like him as a person, I consider myself a member of the republican party, and I will not lose my loyalty to my president. I can see your point though, also I did not want a reaction if I did I would say that democrats are liberals or sold out after JFK and LBJ to hippies, yet I would not say that.
Your putting your loyalty in a man who when 911 occured just sat there idly in a room full of school kids and did NOTHING! Who has the worst track record of any civil servant probably on record. My friend, believing in God should teach you to distance yourself from people like this regardless of party affiliations.
Its brainwashing that makes people think all democrats are liberals the same way republicans are called conservatives.
Your right.. sorry! I like old style democrats though, Like JFK, RFK, FDR, and LBJ they were all great people. maybe loyalty is too strong a word, He has my respect in that he is still president though.. yeah..
No foul, no harm. Let me leave you with this...if you were in a foxhole with a guy like Bush would you have faith that he would have your back? I don't think he would. With his track record full of lies and deceit there is no way I could trust him and if I can't trust someone then its impossible to give respect.
Thanks, I do understand were you are coming from and I mean I would trust him then.. I know alot of people like him, shouldnt really be put into leadership positions. Sorry about my earlier comment, only had 3 hours of sleep the night before, and I was just really out of it, well god bless you and happy november 4, I still need to go out and vote.
Bush was a draft-dodger who had his pop get him into the ANG to avoid being shipped out to Vietnam. On top of that, he had a poor attendance record for his drills and inspections. Then he stopped showing up altogether, when the Pentagon in 1972 began requiring drug-testing for Guardsmen.
Interesting how Bush jumped through hoops and loops to avoid Vietnam, but now he has no problem sending other people's sons and daughters overseas to fight his oil wars.
Wow.This is bringing backsome memories. Granted I was just a young child and don't recall them, but learned about them in school as it was recent history.this was 1st TV debate and appearnce meant a lot. Actually talking about the debate. I had heard (a complete rumor, but interesting) that Nixon, talked to JFK about make-up before the debate, as JFK supposedly had more camera experience. JFK said no I'm not wearing any.
Nickolokus:JFK fucked lots of women but Dubya fucked a whole country!
I dunno how u can say what a "bad guy" Nixon was, kenneddy got the mafia elected in certain parts of the north east, widespread rigging was reported in texas, anyone whos studied history should know what kenneddy was really like, Nixon should have one that election,but he did'nt, because he did'nt cheat.
Ironically, Kennedy talks about getting the country back on track. In reality 1960 was the best time in American history. It had never been better, and it has only gotten worse in the years since.
Maple, besides being a fool, you cast about misinformation. But if you found something out on the internet, it must be true I guess, huh. Watch out for the spaceships.
Nixon was a great president & did a lot to fix Johnson problems (Vietnam, economy, ect.). He did so much to keep allies & gain allies traveling & meeting w/ foreign leaders, & could have easily won w/o watergate. It's a shame he made that unwise dicision... he could have been thought of as one of the best.
Nixon was 1 of the best modern day presidents of our time, He accomplished so very much in his short term. Those tapes was his property, it was not custom to record conversations in the White House. It was something he started so there would be a audio documentation of his great legacy. He was born with the purpose of being president. It's so sad that when people here the name Nixon they only think Watergate. For when he is held in the balance his good by far out measures the bad.
And then what about Vietnam..and the measures he took to prevent americans from excercising their first amendment rights during the vietnam war? I'm not saying he didn't do any good, but Nixon did some terrible things too.
You fucking idiot! Nixon got us out of Vietnam!!!! read a history book!! ..as far as rights go, Nixon summed it up best when he said "No one is above the law, no one is below the law and this is a nation which will have law and order". If the liberal hippies didn't like it then they can shut up and like it or better yet just shut up - bunch of draft dodging fags!!
Nixon pulled us out of Vietnam because of something called re-election, after his failed escalation in Vietnam. And that quote underlines the issue of Nixon's hypocritical Watergate scandal. Nothing you say will write off that crime. Calling people fags for refusing to enlist in our attempts to spread democracy through violence is assinine: Wake the fuck up. Nixon, as I previously said, wasn't all bad, but he was a manipulative tyrant who deserves any criticism he has recieved.
He wasn't all bad, but he was more bad than good. Had LBJ run again, though, it would have been even worse. Frankly, I think RFK would've done a better job.
indie, get a grip. Mr. Nixon was already re elected when we got out of Vietnam. Also, you seem to lack the frame of reference for a man of his generation and the mores and social customs with which he was raised.
Got us out of Vietnam? You have got to be the biggest moron ever. Nixon expanded the war, and dragged it out longer, drop more bombs killed more people for what? I have to ask what history books are you reading? Nixon had the chance to end the early in his first term, but decided not to not because he thought he could win, he wanted to be feared.....
I don't see JFK as a great president. Even Noam Chomsky, a communist, has wrote that Nixon was american's last liberal president. Think about your history: was it Kennedy who put america to Vietnam, was is Truman who dropped the a-bombs to Japan, was a republicans Eisenhower and Mc Arthur who were against it? Was it Nixon who pull america out from Vietnam? Was it FDR who gave permission to red army to rape half of Europe?
-To even say MacArthur was against the A-Bomb on Japan, doesnt mean shit, because he wanted to use nukes in KOREA
-EISENHOWER was the one who got America into Vietnam to help the French after the vietnamese started a war for independence. subsequent administrations INHERITED the vietnam issue
JFK, the greatest president
1stTrillionaire 1 year ago
Nixon did make a bad decision, but still, he did strengthen foreign policy with China. He is actually a very smart man.
insanekillamonster1 2 years ago 5
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From CIA declassified documents, America under the Kennedy administration orchestrated a military coup to overthrow and murder President Diem of South Vietnam government, who strongly opposed U.S. troops' presence in Vietnam because it would be used as a propaganda by communists to lure more Vietnamese to fight against South Vietnam and America; Ho chi Minh, communist leader of North Vietnam, also celebrated this coup and said, "We will win this war; I cannot believe Americans are so stupid."
TOMP66666 2 years ago
KENNEDY ROCKS
ZEROEVILDARKCOOL 2 years ago 3
It's President Reichard M. Nixon
happyhannah27 3 years ago
Riechard
JoeyPencils 2 years ago
sorry about that! lol it was my autistic brother he got a hold of my computer, who knows what else he commented on!
happyhannah27 2 years ago
!!!!!
JoeyPencils 2 years ago
Wow Nixon kicked but
MichaelMantion 3 years ago
It's almost terrifying how similar Kennedy and Obama's rhetoric is...
IsisStarlights 3 years ago
Kennedy sounds like Speed Racer!
I mean it!
gundamWWW 2 years ago
Of course Kennedy won the election with the help of the mafia--but Jack was not privy to all of Papa Joe's underhand machinations and compromises he made to the mafia. Later when Bobby found out about the promises Joe Kennedy made to the Mafia in return for giving his son the election, he flipped; Bobby as attorney general disregarded the promises made to the Mafia and went after them.
ZeroWolf1985 3 years ago
Where did you read/hear about this?
sean2015 3 years ago
Gus Russo's book, 'The Outfit'--it's not a right-wing book mind you, Russo was a consultant on Oliver Stone's movie 'JFK', he's believes there was a conspiracy involved in the JFK killing but not to the idiotic extent that Stone says in JFK.
JFK was no saint--he was a womanizer, and was involved deeply with the CIA and its underhand dealings. So was his brother, Bobby. The Liberal Thought Police want us to think otherwise, but even people like Noam Chomsky know Camelot was what it was: a myth.
ZeroWolf1985 3 years ago
i think kennedy won the election with the help of his father, mafia and lbj with texas I think there were some rigging
Plus when jfk got elected his father paid all the cash for jfk and his family
Kennedy family very lucky but too bad there had so many tragedies
malubabii94 3 years ago
well I think George Bush was a adequate president, he tries his best.. yet a lot of the things he's done has not worked out for him, god bless him and god bless nixon.
RockyBalboa211 3 years ago
'Adequate"!! Are you on crack!! He has lied, cheated and caused the United States of America to fall into the worst economical mess in our history! Bush has spent more money than ALL Presidents of the US...COMBINED!! PERIOD!!!
bigbobvub 3 years ago
To be fair the President wasn't the one who caused the economic crisis though he failed to stop it. Congress passes the budgets and stimulus programs and etc etc. So it wouldn't be right to blame the president for any of that, though he has royally screwed up in other ways.
dbmcmillan 3 years ago
I agree. There were and are too many coincidences that follow George W. If it looks like a duck,sounds like a duck then its a duck.
bigbobvub 3 years ago
finally done w/ my homework ne1 4 chat? z
ALiiA24 3 years ago
Hmmm... Looking at that eletion as a whole, isn't it funny how much it resembles the current one? An older more experienced republican, against a young bold inexperienced democrat promising change, with the biggest issues being a troubled economy and potential war along with a major section of the planet being hostile to the US?
That's bizarre.
RedFlagKW 3 years ago
True. You can say the same thing with George H.W. Bush vs Bill Clinton. Look at their debate as well.
thefloacist 3 years ago
Good observation. I completely forgot how identical the polemics of the Clinton vs Bush election were to the current Obama vs McCain election. Politics seems to run in circles.
RedFlagKW 3 years ago
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Kennedy couldn't hold a candle up to our current greatest President Bush. He was a lib. Remember that people.
I just wish George Bush could run again. He has been an inspiration to me these past 8 years. Thank you Bush for 8 wonderful years of service to this nation. Our Grandchildren will one day build the biggest statue of you in your honor 100 years from now and kiss the feet of that statue in gratitude. Thank you so much.
dave98503 3 years ago
Your grandchildren wouldn't have two sticks to rub together with this idiot in the white HOuse any longer. Hey Dave98503, your village called, they miss their idiot.
ketyro 3 years ago 3
dave you are a fuckin retard
bigboullt 3 years ago 2
you are obviously saying these things just to get a reaction. No true American, with even half a brain, could believe that Bush actually helped this country.
bigbobvub 3 years ago
I like him as a person, I consider myself a member of the republican party, and I will not lose my loyalty to my president. I can see your point though, also I did not want a reaction if I did I would say that democrats are liberals or sold out after JFK and LBJ to hippies, yet I would not say that.
RockyBalboa211 3 years ago
,Because I am a nice person! God bless!
RockyBalboa211 3 years ago
Your putting your loyalty in a man who when 911 occured just sat there idly in a room full of school kids and did NOTHING! Who has the worst track record of any civil servant probably on record. My friend, believing in God should teach you to distance yourself from people like this regardless of party affiliations.
Its brainwashing that makes people think all democrats are liberals the same way republicans are called conservatives.
bigbobvub 3 years ago
Your right.. sorry! I like old style democrats though, Like JFK, RFK, FDR, and LBJ they were all great people. maybe loyalty is too strong a word, He has my respect in that he is still president though.. yeah..
RockyBalboa211 3 years ago
No foul, no harm. Let me leave you with this...if you were in a foxhole with a guy like Bush would you have faith that he would have your back? I don't think he would. With his track record full of lies and deceit there is no way I could trust him and if I can't trust someone then its impossible to give respect.
bigbobvub 3 years ago
Thanks, I do understand were you are coming from and I mean I would trust him then.. I know alot of people like him, shouldnt really be put into leadership positions. Sorry about my earlier comment, only had 3 hours of sleep the night before, and I was just really out of it, well god bless you and happy november 4, I still need to go out and vote.
RockyBalboa211 3 years ago
God bless you too.
bigbobvub 3 years ago
Bush was a draft-dodger who had his pop get him into the ANG to avoid being shipped out to Vietnam. On top of that, he had a poor attendance record for his drills and inspections. Then he stopped showing up altogether, when the Pentagon in 1972 began requiring drug-testing for Guardsmen.
Interesting how Bush jumped through hoops and loops to avoid Vietnam, but now he has no problem sending other people's sons and daughters overseas to fight his oil wars.
sean2015 3 years ago
Wow.This is bringing backsome memories. Granted I was just a young child and don't recall them, but learned about them in school as it was recent history.this was 1st TV debate and appearnce meant a lot. Actually talking about the debate. I had heard (a complete rumor, but interesting) that Nixon, talked to JFK about make-up before the debate, as JFK supposedly had more camera experience. JFK said no I'm not wearing any.
Nickolokus:JFK fucked lots of women but Dubya fucked a whole country!
weeeeeble 3 years ago
I dunno how u can say what a "bad guy" Nixon was, kenneddy got the mafia elected in certain parts of the north east, widespread rigging was reported in texas, anyone whos studied history should know what kenneddy was really like, Nixon should have one that election,but he did'nt, because he did'nt cheat.
mutantpat 3 years ago
Richard Nixon was a great President.
RandomStuffandJunk 3 years ago
I wish they shot Tricky Dick instead of JFK.
rickji2 3 years ago
lol.
Kennedy would have his ass kicked out of today's Democratic Party.
He was a warmonger by today's progressive standards.
lol.
mylegsareswollen 3 years ago
the republlicans killed a democrat...this is high treason, those who are responcible should be arrested
dml5583 3 years ago
r u crazy?
rickji2 3 years ago
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God, Kennedy has such an idiotic accent.
TheBigGuyBGY 3 years ago
thanks for insulting millions of people who live in new england
rickji2 3 years ago
wait he said 61, 62, and 63. its a four year term. he died in 63. almost as if he knew...interesting
planbboy3 3 years ago 3
Kennedy was light years ahead, he did more in two years as President than any President since............
AUGHALOUGH 3 years ago 2
A light year is a measure of distance.
jd24717 3 years ago
Dubya did more in two years. It just wasn't good.
jumbowhite 3 years ago 2
You mean he fucked more woman in two years then any other president.
nickokas 3 years ago
well...its still more than you have got.
DGillUCO 3 years ago 3
you are right einstein I am gay!!!!!
nickokas 3 years ago
well, in case you didnt know, Nixon hated gays, he thought they should be shot. I have no problem with gays or lesbians...but that was nixons belief.
DGillUCO 3 years ago
damn right nixon was a bigoted ass
rickji2 3 years ago
Nixon was an absolute disgrace. Lance in beautiful Bremerton, Washington
lancetop 3 years ago
Wow... I'm amazed, they were talking about the same bullshit in 1960 that they are today. Just replace "Communism" with "Terrorism". Depressing.
PootNTate 3 years ago 10
Ironically, Kennedy talks about getting the country back on track. In reality 1960 was the best time in American history. It had never been better, and it has only gotten worse in the years since.
ewd76 3 years ago
um no.
the 1920's were the best time in American History
highlander924 3 years ago
Nixon is behind JFK assissinations.
Youtube search JFKii
Maple2009 3 years ago
Maple, besides being a fool, you cast about misinformation. But if you found something out on the internet, it must be true I guess, huh. Watch out for the spaceships.
locobuick 3 years ago 3
No way, Nixon was a racist scumbag as the world saw in those televised hearings.
He would never have become President anyway if Robert F Kennedy had not been assassinated and had run on the Democratic Ticket against Nixon.
Furrdy 3 years ago
Nixon was a great president & did a lot to fix Johnson problems (Vietnam, economy, ect.). He did so much to keep allies & gain allies traveling & meeting w/ foreign leaders, & could have easily won w/o watergate. It's a shame he made that unwise dicision... he could have been thought of as one of the best.
CongressmanCaleb 3 years ago 4
obama '08 !!!!!!!!
Thesouthman 3 years ago
obama '08 !!!!!!!!
Thesouthman 3 years ago 2
love how kenndy goes "60...61 ...62..63.." and then he stops lol .. intresting
joeytrimble 3 years ago 2
Nixon was 1 of the best modern day presidents of our time, He accomplished so very much in his short term. Those tapes was his property, it was not custom to record conversations in the White House. It was something he started so there would be a audio documentation of his great legacy. He was born with the purpose of being president. It's so sad that when people here the name Nixon they only think Watergate. For when he is held in the balance his good by far out measures the bad.
brotherpreacher 3 years ago 3
And then what about Vietnam..and the measures he took to prevent americans from excercising their first amendment rights during the vietnam war? I'm not saying he didn't do any good, but Nixon did some terrible things too.
indierock49 3 years ago 2
You fucking idiot! Nixon got us out of Vietnam!!!! read a history book!! ..as far as rights go, Nixon summed it up best when he said "No one is above the law, no one is below the law and this is a nation which will have law and order". If the liberal hippies didn't like it then they can shut up and like it or better yet just shut up - bunch of draft dodging fags!!
IndianKiller667 3 years ago
Nixon pulled us out of Vietnam because of something called re-election, after his failed escalation in Vietnam. And that quote underlines the issue of Nixon's hypocritical Watergate scandal. Nothing you say will write off that crime. Calling people fags for refusing to enlist in our attempts to spread democracy through violence is assinine: Wake the fuck up. Nixon, as I previously said, wasn't all bad, but he was a manipulative tyrant who deserves any criticism he has recieved.
indierock49 3 years ago
He wasn't all bad, but he was more bad than good. Had LBJ run again, though, it would have been even worse. Frankly, I think RFK would've done a better job.
PermyBlueFan 3 years ago 3
indie, get a grip. Mr. Nixon was already re elected when we got out of Vietnam. Also, you seem to lack the frame of reference for a man of his generation and the mores and social customs with which he was raised.
locobuick 3 years ago
indiankiller667,
Got us out of Vietnam? You have got to be the biggest moron ever. Nixon expanded the war, and dragged it out longer, drop more bombs killed more people for what? I have to ask what history books are you reading? Nixon had the chance to end the early in his first term, but decided not to not because he thought he could win, he wanted to be feared.....
hotshot7528 3 years ago
Nixon is a good debater.
jwhyte67 3 years ago 3
I would have voted for Nixon!
pmmtangel974 4 years ago 2
wow news fair and balenced!!!
realnewsdm 4 years ago
My vote would have gone to Kennedy. Without a doubt..
lyden2006 4 years ago
It would be nice if someone could put up the whole debate.
qwertyuiop84913 4 years ago
I don't see JFK as a great president. Even Noam Chomsky, a communist, has wrote that Nixon was american's last liberal president. Think about your history: was it Kennedy who put america to Vietnam, was is Truman who dropped the a-bombs to Japan, was a republicans Eisenhower and Mc Arthur who were against it? Was it Nixon who pull america out from Vietnam? Was it FDR who gave permission to red army to rape half of Europe?
So who are the real hawks and real peaceniks?
tranmere789 4 years ago
Then you don't know who John Fitzgerald Kennedy was. Think what you want but dare you disgrace his name in public you should fear your own safety..
lyden2006 4 years ago
tranmere789,
i'm sorry but you don't have a grasp of history.
-To even say MacArthur was against the A-Bomb on Japan, doesnt mean shit, because he wanted to use nukes in KOREA
-EISENHOWER was the one who got America into Vietnam to help the French after the vietnamese started a war for independence. subsequent administrations INHERITED the vietnam issue
oshkoshbjosh986 3 years ago
and even then, JOHNSON escalated the war. KENNEDY did NOT want mass military action in Vietnam.
-and to top it all off, NIXON turned out to be a fucking disgrace to AMERICA, a symbol of capitalism and power gone wrong.
oshkoshbjosh986 3 years ago
Johnson sent America to Vietnam.
ch334792 3 years ago 3
Partisan alignment on your side of the pond is silly.
You get racist Republicans who seem oblivious that they ended slavery, and 'progressive' Democrats who forget that they instituted Jim Crow.
The last century in England has seen Labour consistantly spending your money, and Conservatives consistantly not.
The last century in America has seen the parties switching position so completely that any allegiance to them seems ridiculous.
PVAglueisfun 3 years ago
Very true, very true, you are wise PVA.
TheBlairKing 3 years ago
Nixon is truly a great debater.
tengfung2000 4 years ago
Photograph with JFK and Nixon debating.
digby33 4 years ago 2