The yamato was a waste of steel! She was too big to miss and needed too many crew to man. They would had been better off with smaller crusiers with speed and manuverbility
@barry8472 Absolutely right. However, consider every navy had many yerars of training that said that battleships were the Kings. One must remember that the modern carrier based naval actions we may now emphasize as "standard" did not exist
@TheUncleDougger Nuclear holocaust to be proud of the deaths of millions of inocent people. Shame on you you sick dirty hillbillie bitch!! Go drown on your Battleship off the U.S West Coast
I don't think that Kurita would have obliterated MacArthur landing forces. Jessie Oldendorf would have intercepted him. Had Taffy 3 been pulverized, there were two more taffies waiting for him, yes, with 5in guns but there were more torpedoes and armor piercing bombs in the American arsenal of the escort fleets. And the Sho-go plans included Nishimura's fleet that was sunk by Oldendorf hours before. Anyway, what a feat for Taffy 3 !!!
ha ha ha..Now it's time to Jap slap some Japs...their fighter pilots escpecially their Navy pilots were hot shots early on. Now we have planes that can match them..watch the result boys...Ass kicking time...
Yamato- the largest battleship in history, largest strategic error and waste of resources in history. Japan's mistake is that they thought WWII would ALSO be a naval war (because they beat the Russians in 1904 with their fleet). But had they made less ships and more planes...by golly they would have had a better chance!
It's not like the US wasn't thinking along the same lines as the Japanese at the start of the war. How many battleships did the US navy have before WWII compared to aircraft carriers? You still had people in the navy brass that didn't see the importance of the aircraft carriers until after the Pearl Harbor attack. The problem the Japanese had was that they couldn't produce enough carriers, aircraft and pilots to replace their loses once the war started.
@BoPrivateFC yeah P-47s there was a special program dedicated to the latin american pilots, Mexicans were considered like the japanese the only difference is that Mexicans smile when they do crazy shit.
@BoPrivateFC There were P-47's in a LOT of places in the pacific theater. There's a book on the 5th Airforce called "Flying Buccaneers" by Steve Birdsall that will show you I'm right. Take a look, you'll enjoy the story. Lots of good photos too.
And....why they didnt made a recreation of the battle of Philipines It was as important as the one on the sea. Or is because USA got help from the Mexican expedition squad 501? I really hate Mcarthur ¬¬
A whole fucking squad from Mexico? Not a division or even a corp but a squad? No doubt they were there to cook authentic Mexican food for the US and Australian troops after they achieved victory.
@shadowmancer122 30 planes, 5 down and they shot down a lot of japs fat ass. It was called "Squad" because Mexico only sent around 300 soldiers mostly pilots and engineers (better and faster than US engineers) So watch your mouth douche.
Better engineers than the US yet Mexico is still a shit-hole-third world country quagmired in corruption? I don't believe that Mexico could produce pilots capable of dogfighting with Japanese naval aviators, either during WWII or today. Besides wetback, the term "squad" is used to descibe a unit of soldiers, not pilots.
Maybe the Mexican 501 squad were dishwashers serving on board liberty ships or troop transports freeing up able bodied Americans to fight.
@shadowmancer122 okey screw yourself asshole. "Squad" is used now as a unit of soldiers I KNOW that. Squads are groups of 3-4 planes and the therm "Squad" was used because the president didnt sent a big force to be called Expedition force. And there were 30 P-47 "Thunderbolt" flying like crazy protecting the higgins boats from the Japaneses so be grateful that they protected them because maybe your grandfather may had been there. Read a bit about the Expedition Squad 501 before commenting douche
Wow, 30 P-47's. How could the US, British Common Wealth and a few Dutch forces ever have won in the Pacific theater of operations with out the help of some wetback flyers. The 201 was deployed in 1945. By thast time most of the heavy fighting was already done. It's not like the wetback flyers was there in time for the battle of the Coral Sea or Midway or some other important and bloody engagement. I don't know how the US won those battles without the "squad".
Yea, like the Mexican navy had the capacity to conduct antisubmarine warefare at the time. I bet the German submariners were full of fear. Myabe they were afraid of being victims of a drive by shooting or having their submarine sub-jacked by a Mexican gang whose name ends with the number 13.
@shadowmancer122 seems that you dont know gangs... those you say are from guatemala not from mexico. And yes Mexican navy could do so because USA gave away a lot of Destroyers so many that they sent to all their allies like candys for kids. And fully equiped and in good conditions. and germans sunk 8 oil ships that were traveling to USA because they lack of Oil and thats the same story of today. No oil from other places = USA paralized.
In southern Cailfornia, the majority of gangs with 13 in their names are comprised of Mexicans and their anchor children. As for the destroyers, the recipient of those were the British who received about 50 WW I era destroyers to patrol their shipping lanes in exchange for basing right in the British West Indies. During that time the US was an exporter of oil. Mexico's contribution to the Allied cause was at best, insignificant.
But you can continue to live in your fantasy world.
@shadowmancer122 Still you dont know the deficit in oil production. middle east stops selling oil to USA and the gas price will rise :) or should i have to remember you a small crisis in the past? i can search for it if you want. And Mexico gave USA workers mostly we didnt involved at all in battles only in Philipines. Women were used in USA because they are more precise in hand movements and for producing those calib 50s bullets must be people with good pulse. And remember "Mexican Miracle"
Yes, I'm aware of the oil crisis of the late 70's. So what. That has nothing to do with W W II. Yes, Mexico has alway given workers to the the US agricultural sector because most illegal Mexican workers in the US are unskilled and poorly educated. The woman in the factories prodcucing war material were American woman.
The only "Mexican Miracle" I'm interested in is in you guys getting your country in order and cracking down on corruption.
@shadowmancer122 errr im not saying Mexico is corrupt it is and i dont like that. And the illegal mexican workers are not unskilled they are pretty damm skilled why you think they get hired? Not only considering the payment they pay taxes also just like you, most of them respect the authority. Everything depends from where they came from. If a thief crosses the border of course he is gonna steal. If a worker cross the border he is gonna work just like any other person from ANY nationality.
@Atemerus Most of them respect authority? If so, why do they cross the border illegally? Do they not understand that what they do belittles the efforts their LEGAL counterparts do respecting the law, entering legally, and filling out the proper immigration paperwork, and becoming citizens!?!? No, all they do is come here and wave their pathetic "patriotism" for a Nation they left behind!
@Zionsge okey this is WHY they cross illegally, and not all of them are mexicans as you think, from a group of 20 people there can be only 1 mexican probably 2 and others are from different countries, like guatemala and nicaragua. They got more chances of a better life in other country than in Mexico i can tell you that. So please STFU.
@Atemerus Bravo Bravo! No dissenting opinions allowed right? You don't even live in a border town do you? Mexicans account for 60% of people crossing the border in New Mexico, Arizona, California, and yes Texas! My question to you mr smarty pants is, if they want better opportunities, use the legal means! Oh but they were raised to hate law and order right! Socialist pig! LOL!
@Zionsge oh yeah im socialist and i love my status in capitalism. Texans are a bunch of traitors and are the worst state in USA they should get a bullet in between the eyebrowns and what "legal" means, your goverment is allied with drug cartels they actually sell weapons to them. So if you are not a democrat then you are a republican pig and i can tell that your family is filled with rednecks and members of the KKK. They do it in the illegal way because they are not informed.
@Atemerus Question is, traitors to who? Mexico? I wasn't born in Mexico so why should I feel allegiance to a foreign country? I have never been a redneck, and I dispise the KKK for the animals they are! (with apologies to animals!) I am neither a die-hard Demorat nor a Republipig! I am a political independent that wishes our country to be the best it could be!
@Zionsge well you should know that your contry is founded by inmigrants, people that fled England long time ago by order of the king in that time (it was go or die executed). The history books are filled with lies. You won't be able to find an history book that tells the true in this days (they were destroyed or they dissappeared in the time) I have 10 books of universal history its made by unknown writers but i try to find now those books in new editions and they dont exist.
@Atemerus While that IS true, these immigrants found it necessary to limit the number of people that come into the country. As it is, the social servces (Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid/Medicare), are stretched to the thinnest point in history! The burden on OUR economy does not need the extra burden of people that cannot, contribute. As far as your books...you must keep in mind that any book is the opinion of the author...not a final authority!
@Zionsge burden to your economy? YOUR ECONOMY IS FAKE! Everything in the economy in USA is based in speculations, thats why you have the actual crisis, the "illegal" ppl that goes to US even pays the taxes! they are not doing a damage, they are actually a help to that country, Medicare/medicaid is something that is useless, they think they will get more money but they WONT, the US schools does not teach as well as Mexico, the only diference is the distribution of them. thats all.
@Atemerus apparently you haven't been paying attention...the few that do pay taxes can't even make a dent in contributing to the economy...the majority get paid under the table. Now I have seen the rural/urban schools in Mexico...half the time the teachers don't even show up...the kids are teaching themselves...nice try! Distribution? The libraries look like pamphlet catalogs! Read Adam Smith's Wealth of the Nations...capitalism dude!
@Atemerus Nothing to say I see...so you would support the existence of a permanent underclass vicimized, expoited, and woefully unrecognized!?! So you would rather see these people arrested, harrassed, and bullied by the local population who see them as the foreigners that they really are? You call US the bad guys! Shame on you!
@Zionsge USA its a damm empire, and as all the Empires they shall fall sooner or later and I see that now its in economical way, and China its dominating it. And the strenght of USA its their economy once the economy is weak all USA is weak. You should get ready to produce food by yourself. All the "underclass" are going to be respected because ALL (excluding farmers in USA) do not know the long process that the food takes to end up in their houses. You probably may know but others no.
@Atemerus funny your people are flocking to our "empire" by the millions! if we are so close to falling, why are so many of YOUR small towns about abandoned, farmland lying fallow? don't start that communist crap please! you sound like that cokehead hugo shithead! if you recall in that vaunted history book you were touting recently, we have been there before!! we recovered, we will do it again! LOSER! lol!
@Atemerus wow! so you wanna have it out at recess too? come on! yours is NOT the only point of view you immature cretin! your retarded comeback smacks of the ignorance your third-world intelligence is so proud of! go back to mexico wet-back! those of us still willing to work for our country need to get to work!!!!! imbecile! babbling idiot!
@Atemerus such propaganda is the only thing the fools that call themselves the people "republic" of china cna do properly.
i can only see that retarded democrats are crippling the US yes but have you seen china inside? there is inflation enough dwarf thir GDP, intrest rates that make any loans impossible and a corrupt armada of party members who cling to their precious red books
mark my words fool, china will be left in the assheap of history along with the soviets
@serialkillerwhale well i dont know bur right now is above US economy, and thats what it matters i dont care about the inside I only care things like trading.
@Zionsge also does the border officers say something about getting a visa to the people they catch crossing illegally? NO. They just send them back or they kill them like a old lady that was beated down to death by Texas border officers! Now those are the ones that get the most dangerous part of the border, they get showered with lead!.
@shadowmancer122 Dude say that to Salinas de Gortari that son of a bitch ran away with most of the money in the country. from that "president" that was the best economist in america (bad sources say that, including wikipedia hope they deleted that) untill today mexico's economy is more stable than US and every year gets better the only thing that is needed is to increase the number of jobs.
You're delusional. The only sector growing in the Mexican economy is drug and human trafficing. Mexico is an embarrassment to the North American continent.
@shadowmancer122 then again, thats YOUR country, and YOUR country is the worlds first place costumer of drugs. No USA no drug cartels thats easy to solve. A clear example of the shit of US is Tijuana. its the biggest pub in the border and all because soldiers and marines went there to get drunk and to get laid. So stop bringing your crapy comments here dude. And looking your profile image i know you are a costumer. So please shut the fuck off.
Yes, I agree with you. Mexico is shit. That probably explains why you people took over drug trafficking from the Colombians. Also, I'm not a consumer of drugs nor any other illegal substances. I chose my profile image because I liked the artwork. But being a Mexican, you probably wouldn't be able to comprehend that.
By the way, can you please remove your fellow Mexicans illegally living in the US from this country. Our crime rates need to drop.
Yes, I agree with you. Mexico is shit. That probably explains why you people took over drug trafficking from the Colombians. Also, I'm not a consumer of drugs nor any other illegal substances. I chose my profile image because I liked the artwork. But being a Mexican, you probably wouldn't be able to comprehend that.
By the way, can you please remove your fellow Mexicans illegally living in the US from this country. Our crime rates need to drop.
@shadowmancer122 idiot, the ones that enter "legally", most of them are involved with drug cartels, they do that to not "call the atention" and i dont care about your profile, you say you are not consumer but that kind of artworks is like "oh yeah more please" but US intelligence is really fucked up, they come to investigate and they end up dead or they are bribed and disappear in latin america. "The american greed".
You're the idiot. You're just to stupid to realize that most Americans don't want your thieving kind in the US and no one gives a damn about a bunch of Mexican cooks that served meals for the Allied soldiers fighting the Japanese. I personally would never visit a shithole like Mexico nor any other Latin American country.
@shadowmancer122 ROFL! yeah sure if latins cook the meal would be so spicy that they would lose the war cuz they would be stuck in the W.C. Besides your goverment paid to the latin american countries to produce drugs, Vietnam war stuff. The war that you lose against an "inferior enemy" Ho-chi Min will be back and kick your damm ass again. No body likes USA, and no one will because of that kind of shitty attitude. And i learned BRITISH ENGLISH not "American". You are not worth, fuck off.
Like I give a fuck that nobody likes America. Tell me wet back, who likes that shithole called Mexico? Just keep your thieving relatives on your side of the border and everything will be o.k. So what you've learned British English. While you're at it, why dont' you try to learn to speak proper Spanish? The way it's spoken in Spain.
Maybe that squad of Mex's were illegal aliens trying to make it to the Phillipines so as to get first dibs at construction jobs for reconstruction of the islands infrastruture.
The aerial attack that sunk the musashi and damaged the yamato was an absolute fluke if I recal correctly, an earlier attack by bombers had been disastrous and resulted in all planes lost for little to no damage, the second wave came in JUST as the japanese had pulled in all their planes for refueling and rearming, giving the american bombers clear skies.
you got it all mixed up my friend. the attack that sunk musashi was on 1944, on sibuyan sea, whilst the one you are referring to wherein the entire torpedo squadron was wiped out, and the second wave,i.e. the dive bombers came while the japs were refueling and rearming (actually they were finished, and just waiting for the order to launch) occured in the battle of midway, 1942.
@dylanlp1999 What's really hilarious is that in the 1920's and 30's, many people thought that battleships would be untouchable by fighters and bombers because of their massive AA batteries. They were so very wrong.
Apart from being terribly one-sided this documentary only shows a tiny part of the big picture. All this David vs. Goliath situation was courtesy of Admiral Halsey who allowed himself to be lured into a wild goose chase leaving the landing party unprotected. Without this mistake the battle of Leyte Gulf would have been just another turkey shoot for the Americans.
I think the Japanese would have inflicted a substantial amount of damage on the Halsey's third fleet before being defeated. Americans talk tough but always cry when when some one fights back, like in Afghanistan. If it's not an easy victory, they bitch about how the enemy fought to the last man refusing to surender.
Inflict serious damage with what, with only surface ships without aerial cover against Halsey's carriers? I seriously doubt it, and take notice that Imperial Japanese Navy wasn't a match for USN even in surface-to-surface engagements, due to superior American radars and fire control systems, as it came out during the battle of Surigao Strait. Anyways, do I sense some serious anti-American prejudice in your comment, or is it just me?
If you're referring to the Taliban and Al Queda, the answer is no. I think it's obvious, or should be obvious, that Islam is a belief that stunts cultural developement. Do you honestly belive that after US and other NATO forces leave that country, that Afghanistan will development in to a stable but developing country? Personally I believe that the Afghan people will revert to doing what they do best, which is to kill each other.
I have quite a different theory, that the sinking of Arizona served as a catalyst for boosting the American resolve to defeat the Japanese Empire. By 1941 Arizona was already an obsolescent ship, and the course of the Pacific war showed that battleships were only of secondary importance in naval engagements. If it hadn't been sunk the Arizona would have made little difference in actual battle, but in "death" she helped motivating all the American servicemen to fight Japan.
The surface night actions on the solomons includes all type of warship except carriers. Hence, the waters off savo island was called iron bottom sound. so don;t think that arizona nor its sister obsolete battleships can make any difference in naval encounters.
@r8wing Whether the Arizona was obsolete or not had little to do with the attack of Pearl Harbor; it was a target, nothing else. Obsolete ships were still being used, i.e. HMS Hood, and HMS Repulse are prime examples. HMS Repulse was sunk by the Japanese, along with HMS Prince of Whales, which was a modern battleship.
The USS Arizona wasn't the only reason for boosting American moral; during that time, war was imminent for America.
The Arizona represents all the service men, and citizens that died on the morning of December 7, 1941. Yes, the sinking of the Arizona boosted American moral, but would it matter if another ship's name was used? No. It served as a flagship and a reminder of the event, get what I'm saying? Also I would like the add that more than half of all the casualties that died on December 7, was on the USS Arizona... So, yes I would have used it as a catalyst.
@SwordsmanMercenary Yamato was bigger but that makes it a bigger target it would be luck and skill of the gunners and the admiral commanding each ship
If I were Kurita, I would have pressed the attack here no matter what. Japan was likely to lose at that time and it is better for ships to go down fighting than to be sunk at anchor, as many of the ships here were. Look up the book "Ship strike Pacific" by John R. Bruning Jr.
Japan knew at the beginning of the war that her naveal vessels could not be replaced at the rate that America could replace her own ships. As a result, Japanese naval officers were trained to be very conservative in their tactics. But in consideration of Japan's desperate circumstances at the time, by retreating, Kurita committed what turned out to be a grave strategic error. Thank God!
If he would have toughed it out the invasion fleet could/would have been in very, very big trouble. The planes helped tremendously, but still they were not properly armed nor was Kurita properly commited and ready with a proper plan. The US got.lucky.
@19127 There is another school of thought about Kurita: He was not a strict adherent to Bushido and sacrifice. Much of his inspiration came from experience with the Royal Navy. There are those who speculate he found sacrificing all of his sailors in a worthless engagement was wasteful and had no heart to do it.
@biscuitninja how many ships were involved in the battle of jutland? the battle of leyte gulf involves more than a hundred ships. DDs, DEs, CLs, CAs, BBs, CVEs, CVAs, and even SS (Dace and Darter, who torpedoed and sunk 2 heavy cruisers and damaging another. They found the center force off Palawan). The actin at Leyte Gulf was the Greatest naval engagement in number of ships and tonnage.
The yamato was a waste of steel! She was too big to miss and needed too many crew to man. They would had been better off with smaller crusiers with speed and manuverbility
barry8472 3 weeks ago
@barry8472 Absolutely right. However, consider every navy had many yerars of training that said that battleships were the Kings. One must remember that the modern carrier based naval actions we may now emphasize as "standard" did not exist
Who could have known how it would go in advance?
TheUncleDougger 1 week ago
Loved the "victory plan" summery
We have big buns shoot them with big guns.
darkblood626 1 month ago
@darkblood626 Right! There was even a name given to the naval officers who thought like that...They were called "GUN CLUB" members.
TheUncleDougger 1 week ago
RENAME: DEATH TO USN!!!
HybodusStudios 1 month ago
@HybodusStudios You wish, Peckerwood.
TheUncleDougger 1 week ago
@TheUncleDougger no you defenseless cunt, It will happen *Says it in Demonic voice* THE USN WILL DIEEE!!!!
HybodusStudios 1 week ago
@HybodusStudios Ever hear of Hiroshima? Just who surrendered to who, fuckface?
TheUncleDougger 1 week ago
@TheUncleDougger Nuclear holocaust to be proud of the deaths of millions of inocent people. Shame on you you sick dirty hillbillie bitch!! Go drown on your Battleship off the U.S West Coast
HybodusStudios 1 week ago
@OminesDragon I understand it:) and also @rva1945 i agree!
Dualguitar6 1 month ago
oh come on. it wasnt such an unequal battle.
sjmzeldaavgnfan 2 months ago
I don't think that Kurita would have obliterated MacArthur landing forces. Jessie Oldendorf would have intercepted him. Had Taffy 3 been pulverized, there were two more taffies waiting for him, yes, with 5in guns but there were more torpedoes and armor piercing bombs in the American arsenal of the escort fleets. And the Sho-go plans included Nishimura's fleet that was sunk by Oldendorf hours before. Anyway, what a feat for Taffy 3 !!!
rva1945 4 months ago
@rva1945 I Didn't understand a word of that.
OminesDragon 2 months ago
@rva1945 Taffy 3 was pulverized, 2 of the 3 carriers sunk. Kurita was a pussy and should not have been in command.
TheUncleDougger 1 week ago
I love the "Pagoda" masts of the Japanese Battleships. So tall they seem to defy gravity- it must have been a wild ride up there in heavy seas!
dougeroo1 4 months ago
mmmm its me or this battle looks like ep6 star wars/space battle on endor
lordjor82 5 months ago
1:40 - Best part
TheSuperDeathBomber 5 months ago
ha ha ha..Now it's time to Jap slap some Japs...their fighter pilots escpecially their Navy pilots were hot shots early on. Now we have planes that can match them..watch the result boys...Ass kicking time...
010bobby 5 months ago
Yamato- the largest battleship in history, largest strategic error and waste of resources in history. Japan's mistake is that they thought WWII would ALSO be a naval war (because they beat the Russians in 1904 with their fleet). But had they made less ships and more planes...by golly they would have had a better chance!
ModellMeister 6 months ago
@ModellMeister
It's not like the US wasn't thinking along the same lines as the Japanese at the start of the war. How many battleships did the US navy have before WWII compared to aircraft carriers? You still had people in the navy brass that didn't see the importance of the aircraft carriers until after the Pearl Harbor attack. The problem the Japanese had was that they couldn't produce enough carriers, aircraft and pilots to replace their loses once the war started.
shadowmancer122 3 months ago
jamato was the biggest ship but not the most cost effective
THEGAMERpro5 6 months ago
battleships were very helpless against dive bombers and torpedo bombers
rahulbond3m 7 months ago
@Atemerus P47s? Are you kidding me? In the pacific? Yeah,right.
BoPrivateFC 8 months ago
@BoPrivateFC yeah P-47s there was a special program dedicated to the latin american pilots, Mexicans were considered like the japanese the only difference is that Mexicans smile when they do crazy shit.
Atemerus 2 months ago
@BoPrivateFC There were P-47's in a LOT of places in the pacific theater. There's a book on the 5th Airforce called "Flying Buccaneers" by Steve Birdsall that will show you I'm right. Take a look, you'll enjoy the story. Lots of good photos too.
TheUncleDougger 1 week ago
Essentially, the Yamato was meant to make a one way trip, Japanese tradition at the time.
bubba485 8 months ago
And....why they didnt made a recreation of the battle of Philipines It was as important as the one on the sea. Or is because USA got help from the Mexican expedition squad 501? I really hate Mcarthur ¬¬
Atemerus 9 months ago
@Atemerus
A whole fucking squad from Mexico? Not a division or even a corp but a squad? No doubt they were there to cook authentic Mexican food for the US and Australian troops after they achieved victory.
shadowmancer122 9 months ago
@shadowmancer122 30 planes, 5 down and they shot down a lot of japs fat ass. It was called "Squad" because Mexico only sent around 300 soldiers mostly pilots and engineers (better and faster than US engineers) So watch your mouth douche.
Atemerus 9 months ago
@Atemerus
Better engineers than the US yet Mexico is still a shit-hole-third world country quagmired in corruption? I don't believe that Mexico could produce pilots capable of dogfighting with Japanese naval aviators, either during WWII or today. Besides wetback, the term "squad" is used to descibe a unit of soldiers, not pilots.
Maybe the Mexican 501 squad were dishwashers serving on board liberty ships or troop transports freeing up able bodied Americans to fight.
shadowmancer122 9 months ago
@shadowmancer122 okey screw yourself asshole. "Squad" is used now as a unit of soldiers I KNOW that. Squads are groups of 3-4 planes and the therm "Squad" was used because the president didnt sent a big force to be called Expedition force. And there were 30 P-47 "Thunderbolt" flying like crazy protecting the higgins boats from the Japaneses so be grateful that they protected them because maybe your grandfather may had been there. Read a bit about the Expedition Squad 501 before commenting douche
Atemerus 9 months ago
@Atemerus
Wow, 30 P-47's. How could the US, British Common Wealth and a few Dutch forces ever have won in the Pacific theater of operations with out the help of some wetback flyers. The 201 was deployed in 1945. By thast time most of the heavy fighting was already done. It's not like the wetback flyers was there in time for the battle of the Coral Sea or Midway or some other important and bloody engagement. I don't know how the US won those battles without the "squad".
shadowmancer122 9 months ago
@shadowmancer122 by the way it wasnt 501 it was 201. The 501 was patroling Mexico coasts looking for german subs.
Atemerus 9 months ago
@Atemerus
Yea, like the Mexican navy had the capacity to conduct antisubmarine warefare at the time. I bet the German submariners were full of fear. Myabe they were afraid of being victims of a drive by shooting or having their submarine sub-jacked by a Mexican gang whose name ends with the number 13.
shadowmancer122 9 months ago
@shadowmancer122 seems that you dont know gangs... those you say are from guatemala not from mexico. And yes Mexican navy could do so because USA gave away a lot of Destroyers so many that they sent to all their allies like candys for kids. And fully equiped and in good conditions. and germans sunk 8 oil ships that were traveling to USA because they lack of Oil and thats the same story of today. No oil from other places = USA paralized.
Atemerus 9 months ago
@Atemerus
In southern Cailfornia, the majority of gangs with 13 in their names are comprised of Mexicans and their anchor children. As for the destroyers, the recipient of those were the British who received about 50 WW I era destroyers to patrol their shipping lanes in exchange for basing right in the British West Indies. During that time the US was an exporter of oil. Mexico's contribution to the Allied cause was at best, insignificant.
But you can continue to live in your fantasy world.
shadowmancer122 9 months ago
@shadowmancer122 Still you dont know the deficit in oil production. middle east stops selling oil to USA and the gas price will rise :) or should i have to remember you a small crisis in the past? i can search for it if you want. And Mexico gave USA workers mostly we didnt involved at all in battles only in Philipines. Women were used in USA because they are more precise in hand movements and for producing those calib 50s bullets must be people with good pulse. And remember "Mexican Miracle"
Atemerus 8 months ago
@Atemerus
Yes, I'm aware of the oil crisis of the late 70's. So what. That has nothing to do with W W II. Yes, Mexico has alway given workers to the the US agricultural sector because most illegal Mexican workers in the US are unskilled and poorly educated. The woman in the factories prodcucing war material were American woman.
The only "Mexican Miracle" I'm interested in is in you guys getting your country in order and cracking down on corruption.
shadowmancer122 8 months ago
@shadowmancer122 errr im not saying Mexico is corrupt it is and i dont like that. And the illegal mexican workers are not unskilled they are pretty damm skilled why you think they get hired? Not only considering the payment they pay taxes also just like you, most of them respect the authority. Everything depends from where they came from. If a thief crosses the border of course he is gonna steal. If a worker cross the border he is gonna work just like any other person from ANY nationality.
Atemerus 8 months ago
@Atemerus Most of them respect authority? If so, why do they cross the border illegally? Do they not understand that what they do belittles the efforts their LEGAL counterparts do respecting the law, entering legally, and filling out the proper immigration paperwork, and becoming citizens!?!? No, all they do is come here and wave their pathetic "patriotism" for a Nation they left behind!
Zionsge 6 months ago
@Zionsge okey this is WHY they cross illegally, and not all of them are mexicans as you think, from a group of 20 people there can be only 1 mexican probably 2 and others are from different countries, like guatemala and nicaragua. They got more chances of a better life in other country than in Mexico i can tell you that. So please STFU.
Atemerus 6 months ago
@Atemerus Bravo Bravo! No dissenting opinions allowed right? You don't even live in a border town do you? Mexicans account for 60% of people crossing the border in New Mexico, Arizona, California, and yes Texas! My question to you mr smarty pants is, if they want better opportunities, use the legal means! Oh but they were raised to hate law and order right! Socialist pig! LOL!
Zionsge 6 months ago
@Zionsge oh yeah im socialist and i love my status in capitalism. Texans are a bunch of traitors and are the worst state in USA they should get a bullet in between the eyebrowns and what "legal" means, your goverment is allied with drug cartels they actually sell weapons to them. So if you are not a democrat then you are a republican pig and i can tell that your family is filled with rednecks and members of the KKK. They do it in the illegal way because they are not informed.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus Question is, traitors to who? Mexico? I wasn't born in Mexico so why should I feel allegiance to a foreign country? I have never been a redneck, and I dispise the KKK for the animals they are! (with apologies to animals!) I am neither a die-hard Demorat nor a Republipig! I am a political independent that wishes our country to be the best it could be!
Zionsge 5 months ago
@Zionsge well you should know that your contry is founded by inmigrants, people that fled England long time ago by order of the king in that time (it was go or die executed). The history books are filled with lies. You won't be able to find an history book that tells the true in this days (they were destroyed or they dissappeared in the time) I have 10 books of universal history its made by unknown writers but i try to find now those books in new editions and they dont exist.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus While that IS true, these immigrants found it necessary to limit the number of people that come into the country. As it is, the social servces (Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid/Medicare), are stretched to the thinnest point in history! The burden on OUR economy does not need the extra burden of people that cannot, contribute. As far as your books...you must keep in mind that any book is the opinion of the author...not a final authority!
Zionsge 5 months ago
@Zionsge burden to your economy? YOUR ECONOMY IS FAKE! Everything in the economy in USA is based in speculations, thats why you have the actual crisis, the "illegal" ppl that goes to US even pays the taxes! they are not doing a damage, they are actually a help to that country, Medicare/medicaid is something that is useless, they think they will get more money but they WONT, the US schools does not teach as well as Mexico, the only diference is the distribution of them. thats all.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus apparently you haven't been paying attention...the few that do pay taxes can't even make a dent in contributing to the economy...the majority get paid under the table. Now I have seen the rural/urban schools in Mexico...half the time the teachers don't even show up...the kids are teaching themselves...nice try! Distribution? The libraries look like pamphlet catalogs! Read Adam Smith's Wealth of the Nations...capitalism dude!
Zionsge 5 months ago
@Atemerus Nothing to say I see...so you would support the existence of a permanent underclass vicimized, expoited, and woefully unrecognized!?! So you would rather see these people arrested, harrassed, and bullied by the local population who see them as the foreigners that they really are? You call US the bad guys! Shame on you!
Zionsge 5 months ago
@Zionsge USA its a damm empire, and as all the Empires they shall fall sooner or later and I see that now its in economical way, and China its dominating it. And the strenght of USA its their economy once the economy is weak all USA is weak. You should get ready to produce food by yourself. All the "underclass" are going to be respected because ALL (excluding farmers in USA) do not know the long process that the food takes to end up in their houses. You probably may know but others no.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus funny your people are flocking to our "empire" by the millions! if we are so close to falling, why are so many of YOUR small towns about abandoned, farmland lying fallow? don't start that communist crap please! you sound like that cokehead hugo shithead! if you recall in that vaunted history book you were touting recently, we have been there before!! we recovered, we will do it again! LOSER! lol!
Zionsge 5 months ago
@Zionsge and your mom was the slut of babilonia i guess
Atemerus 2 months ago
@Atemerus wow! so you wanna have it out at recess too? come on! yours is NOT the only point of view you immature cretin! your retarded comeback smacks of the ignorance your third-world intelligence is so proud of! go back to mexico wet-back! those of us still willing to work for our country need to get to work!!!!! imbecile! babbling idiot!
Zionsge 2 months ago
@Atemerus such propaganda is the only thing the fools that call themselves the people "republic" of china cna do properly.
i can only see that retarded democrats are crippling the US yes but have you seen china inside? there is inflation enough dwarf thir GDP, intrest rates that make any loans impossible and a corrupt armada of party members who cling to their precious red books
mark my words fool, china will be left in the assheap of history along with the soviets
and enjoy hell
serialkillerwhale 2 months ago
@serialkillerwhale well i dont know bur right now is above US economy, and thats what it matters i dont care about the inside I only care things like trading.
Atemerus 2 months ago
@Zionsge also does the border officers say something about getting a visa to the people they catch crossing illegally? NO. They just send them back or they kill them like a old lady that was beated down to death by Texas border officers! Now those are the ones that get the most dangerous part of the border, they get showered with lead!.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@shadowmancer122 Dude say that to Salinas de Gortari that son of a bitch ran away with most of the money in the country. from that "president" that was the best economist in america (bad sources say that, including wikipedia hope they deleted that) untill today mexico's economy is more stable than US and every year gets better the only thing that is needed is to increase the number of jobs.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus
You're delusional. The only sector growing in the Mexican economy is drug and human trafficing. Mexico is an embarrassment to the North American continent.
shadowmancer122 5 months ago
@shadowmancer122 then again, thats YOUR country, and YOUR country is the worlds first place costumer of drugs. No USA no drug cartels thats easy to solve. A clear example of the shit of US is Tijuana. its the biggest pub in the border and all because soldiers and marines went there to get drunk and to get laid. So stop bringing your crapy comments here dude. And looking your profile image i know you are a costumer. So please shut the fuck off.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus
Yes, I agree with you. Mexico is shit. That probably explains why you people took over drug trafficking from the Colombians. Also, I'm not a consumer of drugs nor any other illegal substances. I chose my profile image because I liked the artwork. But being a Mexican, you probably wouldn't be able to comprehend that.
By the way, can you please remove your fellow Mexicans illegally living in the US from this country. Our crime rates need to drop.
shadowmancer122 5 months ago
@Atemerus
Yes, I agree with you. Mexico is shit. That probably explains why you people took over drug trafficking from the Colombians. Also, I'm not a consumer of drugs nor any other illegal substances. I chose my profile image because I liked the artwork. But being a Mexican, you probably wouldn't be able to comprehend that.
By the way, can you please remove your fellow Mexicans illegally living in the US from this country. Our crime rates need to drop.
shadowmancer122 5 months ago
@shadowmancer122 idiot, the ones that enter "legally", most of them are involved with drug cartels, they do that to not "call the atention" and i dont care about your profile, you say you are not consumer but that kind of artworks is like "oh yeah more please" but US intelligence is really fucked up, they come to investigate and they end up dead or they are bribed and disappear in latin america. "The american greed".
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus
You're the idiot. You're just to stupid to realize that most Americans don't want your thieving kind in the US and no one gives a damn about a bunch of Mexican cooks that served meals for the Allied soldiers fighting the Japanese. I personally would never visit a shithole like Mexico nor any other Latin American country.
shadowmancer122 5 months ago
@shadowmancer122 ROFL! yeah sure if latins cook the meal would be so spicy that they would lose the war cuz they would be stuck in the W.C. Besides your goverment paid to the latin american countries to produce drugs, Vietnam war stuff. The war that you lose against an "inferior enemy" Ho-chi Min will be back and kick your damm ass again. No body likes USA, and no one will because of that kind of shitty attitude. And i learned BRITISH ENGLISH not "American". You are not worth, fuck off.
Atemerus 5 months ago
@Atemerus
Like I give a fuck that nobody likes America. Tell me wet back, who likes that shithole called Mexico? Just keep your thieving relatives on your side of the border and everything will be o.k. So what you've learned British English. While you're at it, why dont' you try to learn to speak proper Spanish? The way it's spoken in Spain.
shadowmancer122 5 months ago
@shadowmancer122 crazy mexican
im glad the U.S acts as a buffer between us civilized canadians and you savages
serialkillerwhale 2 months ago
@Atemerus
Maybe that squad of Mex's were illegal aliens trying to make it to the Phillipines so as to get first dibs at construction jobs for reconstruction of the islands infrastruture.
shadowmancer122 9 months ago
18 Navy planes for Musashi sent to the bottom? That about the best you could expect at the time
MontezumaUH60 10 months ago
i like dogfights on Tv
ironjackdaddy 10 months ago
The aerial attack that sunk the musashi and damaged the yamato was an absolute fluke if I recal correctly, an earlier attack by bombers had been disastrous and resulted in all planes lost for little to no damage, the second wave came in JUST as the japanese had pulled in all their planes for refueling and rearming, giving the american bombers clear skies.
lordbaxt3r 1 year ago
@lordbaxt3r
Nope I'm wrong, I'm thinking of another battle, maybe the one that sunk the yamato.
lordbaxt3r 1 year ago
@lordbaxt3r
you got it all mixed up my friend. the attack that sunk musashi was on 1944, on sibuyan sea, whilst the one you are referring to wherein the entire torpedo squadron was wiped out, and the second wave,i.e. the dive bombers came while the japs were refueling and rearming (actually they were finished, and just waiting for the order to launch) occured in the battle of midway, 1942.
burjegol 1 year ago
@burjegol
Thanks for that, I got completely mixed up as you can see...
lordbaxt3r 1 year ago
I fucking miss this show, it kicked ass.
SuperHaloStarwarsFan 1 year ago
Its embarrassing for the Yamato that a single dive bomber could get through all of her AA guns lol
dylanlp1999 1 year ago 2
@dylanlp1999
Not more embarrassing than a single Japanese dive bomber getting pass the aa guns of an American battleship and doing damage lol.
shadowmancer122 1 year ago
@dylanlp1999 What's really hilarious is that in the 1920's and 30's, many people thought that battleships would be untouchable by fighters and bombers because of their massive AA batteries. They were so very wrong.
Hotshotter3000 4 months ago 2
Apart from being terribly one-sided this documentary only shows a tiny part of the big picture. All this David vs. Goliath situation was courtesy of Admiral Halsey who allowed himself to be lured into a wild goose chase leaving the landing party unprotected. Without this mistake the battle of Leyte Gulf would have been just another turkey shoot for the Americans.
r8wing 1 year ago
@r8wing
I think the Japanese would have inflicted a substantial amount of damage on the Halsey's third fleet before being defeated. Americans talk tough but always cry when when some one fights back, like in Afghanistan. If it's not an easy victory, they bitch about how the enemy fought to the last man refusing to surender.
shadowmancer122 1 year ago
@shadowmancer122
Inflict serious damage with what, with only surface ships without aerial cover against Halsey's carriers? I seriously doubt it, and take notice that Imperial Japanese Navy wasn't a match for USN even in surface-to-surface engagements, due to superior American radars and fire control systems, as it came out during the battle of Surigao Strait. Anyways, do I sense some serious anti-American prejudice in your comment, or is it just me?
r8wing 1 year ago
@shadowmancer122 so ur siding with those cock sucking sand niggers??
MimzysBomb 1 year ago
@MimzysBomb
If you're referring to the Taliban and Al Queda, the answer is no. I think it's obvious, or should be obvious, that Islam is a belief that stunts cultural developement. Do you honestly belive that after US and other NATO forces leave that country, that Afghanistan will development in to a stable but developing country? Personally I believe that the Afghan people will revert to doing what they do best, which is to kill each other.
shadowmancer122 1 year ago
@shadowmancer122 kk good sounded like u were siding with them but as log as theyre killing eachother good
MimzysBomb 1 year ago
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any know who is the name of the intro song or the credits song?
xhion24 1 year ago
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xhion24 1 year ago
i w0nder what would have happened to the arizona in the war if it wasnt sunk in pearl. my theory is that it would have won us evry fight
PitbuyllGamingHounds 1 year ago
@PitbuyllGamingHounds
I have quite a different theory, that the sinking of Arizona served as a catalyst for boosting the American resolve to defeat the Japanese Empire. By 1941 Arizona was already an obsolescent ship, and the course of the Pacific war showed that battleships were only of secondary importance in naval engagements. If it hadn't been sunk the Arizona would have made little difference in actual battle, but in "death" she helped motivating all the American servicemen to fight Japan.
r8wing 1 year ago
@r8wing
The surface night actions on the solomons includes all type of warship except carriers. Hence, the waters off savo island was called iron bottom sound. so don;t think that arizona nor its sister obsolete battleships can make any difference in naval encounters.
burjegol 1 year ago
@r8wing Whether the Arizona was obsolete or not had little to do with the attack of Pearl Harbor; it was a target, nothing else. Obsolete ships were still being used, i.e. HMS Hood, and HMS Repulse are prime examples. HMS Repulse was sunk by the Japanese, along with HMS Prince of Whales, which was a modern battleship.
The USS Arizona wasn't the only reason for boosting American moral; during that time, war was imminent for America.
Brigade35 10 months ago
@r8wing Continued:
The Arizona represents all the service men, and citizens that died on the morning of December 7, 1941. Yes, the sinking of the Arizona boosted American moral, but would it matter if another ship's name was used? No. It served as a flagship and a reminder of the event, get what I'm saying? Also I would like the add that more than half of all the casualties that died on December 7, was on the USS Arizona... So, yes I would have used it as a catalyst.
Brigade35 10 months ago
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MimzysBomb 1 year ago
@PitbuyllGamingHounds no it wooda been replaced by the iowa class battleships cus those raped ass
MimzysBomb 1 year ago
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I wander what would have happened if Kurita's Center Force met Halsey's (powerful) Third Fleet........................
KokoaLover1 1 year ago
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I wander what would have happened if Kurita's Center Force met Halsey's (powerful) 3rd Fleet..........................
KokoaLover1 1 year ago
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KokoaLover1 1 year ago
I like how they tried to pass it off at the beginning as if the US didn't go into this battle with tremendous tactical advantages.
iiiset 1 year ago
get out of my hometown you fucking japs.^^
ojtero 1 year ago
I wonder who would win Bismark vs. Yamato?
Yes I know they were allies but who would win?
SwordsmanMercenary 1 year ago
@SwordsmanMercenary Yamato was bigger but that makes it a bigger target it would be luck and skill of the gunners and the admiral commanding each ship
SkullKing11841 1 year ago
@SwordsmanMercenary its a close call yamato had a bigger round and could fire further away but the bismark had a faster fire rate
Rondy95 1 year ago
@Rondy95 I also heard Bismark was faster
SwordsmanMercenary 1 year ago
0:39 a major faux pas - Yamato, along with many later battleships, did not have wood all the way up the "fo'c'sle" (fore castle)
Contrajoe 2 years ago
If I were Kurita, I would have pressed the attack here no matter what. Japan was likely to lose at that time and it is better for ships to go down fighting than to be sunk at anchor, as many of the ships here were. Look up the book "Ship strike Pacific" by John R. Bruning Jr.
Contrajoe 2 years ago
Japan knew at the beginning of the war that her naveal vessels could not be replaced at the rate that America could replace her own ships. As a result, Japanese naval officers were trained to be very conservative in their tactics. But in consideration of Japan's desperate circumstances at the time, by retreating, Kurita committed what turned out to be a grave strategic error. Thank God!
19127 1 year ago 21
@19127
If he would have toughed it out the invasion fleet could/would have been in very, very big trouble. The planes helped tremendously, but still they were not properly armed nor was Kurita properly commited and ready with a proper plan. The US got.lucky.
biscuitninja 1 year ago
@biscuitninja Funny how many times in war someone just gets lucky
SwordsmanMercenary 1 year ago
@SwordsmanMercenary
If you haven't found this page yet.... Mitchell Page
biscuitninja 1 year ago
@19127 There is another school of thought about Kurita: He was not a strict adherent to Bushido and sacrifice. Much of his inspiration came from experience with the Royal Navy. There are those who speculate he found sacrificing all of his sailors in a worthless engagement was wasteful and had no heart to do it.
seanboud 1 year ago
@19127 speaking of strategies.
when i watched this i was thinking, GET BEHIND THE JAP SHIP, ITS WEAKER THERE!!
then i thought
...... wait.... thats tanks.
PitbuyllGamingHounds 1 year ago
@PitbuyllGamingHounds nice
MultiMarcus99 1 year ago
You heard Right Exodus the 18.1 inch shells could reach mach 1 in flight and pentrate 2 feet of steel at 25 miles
greatyamato 2 years ago 2
I heard somewhere that the Yamato's 18inch guns could fire at mach 1.
Exodus2021 2 years ago
@Exodus2021 lol
drybone12 2 years ago
I would think it to be cool, but it seems ridiculous to me.
Exodus2021 2 years ago
Battleship Yamato is just big.
Raymund925 2 years ago
No offense...but that's your opinion and not fact. It was a great ship.
DarkMachine 2 years ago
this is the largest naval battle in world history
TheProjektcc 2 years ago 18
not really, there was much bigger ones during world war 2, Bismarck, and i forget which other one but it was also in dogfights
xxxShadowKnightxxxx 2 years ago
@xxxShadowKnightxxxx
the battle with bismarck wasn't bigger!
It involved only 4 ships!
This is the largest in terms of battleships, cruisers, firepower and the area of combat.
there were no bigger ones in WW2
TheProjektcc 2 years ago
idk it involved lots of planes tho, lots of swordfish and plus british had some big ships
xxxShadowKnightxxxx 2 years ago
@xxxShadowKnightxxxx
this had more planes than that
it had more and bigger ships than that
trust me dude this was the biggest. Even if it isn't it is still bigger than the battle with bismarck by far!!
Go read it the info is readily available all over the internet.
TheProjektcc 2 years ago
@TheProjektcc
Not really, I think the Battle of Jutland was bigger. A true ship on ship battle. HUGE amounts of ships shooting all over the place.
biscuitninja 2 years ago 2
@biscuitninja
yeah in number of ships perhaps but when it comes to tonnage, ships, personel, area and aircraft this one was bigger
TheProjektcc 2 years ago
@biscuitninja how many ships were involved in the battle of jutland? the battle of leyte gulf involves more than a hundred ships. DDs, DEs, CLs, CAs, BBs, CVEs, CVAs, and even SS (Dace and Darter, who torpedoed and sunk 2 heavy cruisers and damaging another. They found the center force off Palawan). The actin at Leyte Gulf was the Greatest naval engagement in number of ships and tonnage.
burjegol 1 year ago
@burjegol
Britain fielded 150 ships, 28 dreadnoughts, 9 battlecruisers, 8 armoured cruisers, 26 light cruisers, 77 destroyers, 1 seaplane carrier and 1 minelayer.
Germany's fleet consisted of 99 ships,
16 dreadnoughts, 6 battleships (pre-dreadnought era), 5 battlecruisers, 11 light cruisers and 61 destroyers.
biscuitninja 1 year ago
@TheProjektcc This was a portion of the largest...
Contrajoe 2 years ago
@TheProjektcc
I wouldn't have said that, the battle of jutland had more ships involved.
lordbaxt3r 1 year ago
@TheProjektcc What about the Battle of Midway?
AstralDragoon 1 year ago