A good alternative to a helmet cam is HD video recording sunglasses...no wires, no tangles... search for "pivothead" on google and you should be able to find what I'm talking about
A good alternative to a helmet cam is HD video recording sunglasses...no wires, no tangles... search for "pivothead" on google and you should be able to find what I'm talking about
I had the exact same thing happen to me the other week - bloody embarrassing on a busy launch! I'm thinking of switching from GoPro to Contour.. thinking that design would be less susceptible when its on the side of your head as opposed to box on top like the GoPro
@Murmur2k Any thing attached to your helmet can do this really. Check out the contours light handling, seems a bit too contrasty for me. Drift HD looks great!
@Reechforthesky yeah Contour+ looks great except for the video quality not being sharp enough. Think they are about to announce a new product so will see how that turns out.. Drift looks pretty good though
I've had the same issue with a helmet mounted vario snagging lines when top landings. I played with the positioning until the vario was on the helmet straps and clear of any lines.
Hi - I want to share my idea so that people don't have to go through this.
You can avoid this pitfall by using high strength adhesive backed Velcro. Put this on the back of your camera casing and the other side on your helmet. Makes a great bond that breaks if the shit hits the fan.
ive had the same problem, when landing and turning to down the glider, the lines have caught, not a nice feeling having your head pulled down getting dragged!
These kinds are also essential for beginners like me, since it's the only way I get to see the kinds of problems I need to be careful of. For example, I didn't realize just how powerful the turbulence of gliders that far away can be. I also liked the video 'paraglider crash', which very graphically demonstrates why skimming the edges of thermals is a bad idea and how much of a problem trees can be.
Next time that you are flying with a helmet cam or any time that you are flying behind another paraglider you must remember to keep a bit of brakes in order to avoid the turbulence caused by the wing that is passing in front of you. lack of input increase your chances of a major colapse and ground tasting... :)
Thanks for the tip. I actually had quite a lot of brake on because the wind was quite light. The wing was very lightly loaded which probably was why the collapse was so large. (1:58)
I suppose a course of action could be to reach up and break the camera off! It's attached by a plastic arm and clip which would proabably break with a determined bash!
Having your head attached to your canopy does tend to put a slightly different perspective on 'normal' safety procedures! Getting your canopy under control is very difficult because you can't raise your head to look and the lines are all caught up on your head and that's if you're on the ground! If it was to happen in flight even chucking your reserve may not help. Imagine 24 sq feet of glider thrashing about with your head attached to it!
No you did well releasing the whole mess.I remember one time i was preparing for ground handling and suddendly a strong gyst caused the glider to rotate in a way that some lines were taggled around my neck.The only thing i could do is to run along with it till i release my head.After that i`ve packed the glider and called it for the day hahaha.
(hope this time the comment will get posted (some connection problems))
A very experienced pilot told me his helmet cam caught in a cascade while flying. Fortunately the camera was torn free, but it made me think. I've moved my cam to the front of my helmet to reduce such risks. There are benefits other than posting for other flyers and I've found it useful in evaluating decisions that I made, so I can reflect at leisure. Sometimes those decisions can be life-savers. I guess there's checks and balances in everything.
i dont understand why this would make you not want a helmet cam. i know im not a paraglider person but it seems like the helmet cam had nothing to do with what happened.
Helmet cams won't cause a problem in normal flight. Unfortunately, paragliders can collapse due to air turbulence and it is possible to get the camera tangled in the lines which will cause total loss of control! Luckily I was on the ground when it happened. Even on the ground I was lucky not to get dragged along the gournd which can cause major injury.
In skydiving, we have a cutaway system on our camera setup(helmet, camera, cam eye,tongue switch, etc.). It reqiures just a quick pull and your head/neck can be saved :o)
Perhaps it's not a bad idea to have such thing on your helmets too.
I agree that the best solution in this situation is to undo your helmet chin strap and remove the helmet. I too have one of these Gopro Hero helmet cams and got mine caught up in one of my reserve lines after an SIV water landing.
vow, that is really interesting to see! do you think the camera would have gotten so tangled if you were airborn? i.e. would the weight of you hanging from your glider have changed anything? makes me think thrice before getting a helm cam....
Hi. Not so likely when flying. Your head is further from the lines and because the lines are under tension they hit the side of your helmet if you do get near them. If you get a big collapse in the air then the lines could tangle just like they did to me on the ground. Should this happen I now know my first reaction will be to undo my helmet strap! You do have to be careful at takeoff and landing. It's a risk............
Sinto muito carapalida! mas vc foi um mane! concordo q haja algum perigo, mas torcendo o tirante do jeito q vc fez! so prendendo mesmo! esperiencia propria! bom voo
Glider wakes are peculiar things. Being rotory in nature their effect varies greatly on topograhpy, wind speed, distance from glider generating the wake. We did a lot of ground handling that day. Where you were made a lot of difference to their effect. I unwittingly placed myself in just the right place to get whacked by the especially large wake of the glider taking off. The cam is very wide angle (170)
I've carried a camera mounted in various positions on a hanglider for years and never had any problems like this!
NevilleStyke 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Reechforthesky
yeah better job reech love the vids buddy hope the ankles doin well dislocated my shoulder last week an ole drag ,ah well part of the sport xx
cloudsurferireland 4 months ago
@cloudsurferireland Ouch for the shoulder. Get well soon. :)
Reechforthesky 4 months ago
put it on with Velcro not a bracket then the line would have ripped it of your head instead xx
cloudsurferireland 4 months ago
@cloudsurferireland Since I shot this vid I've made a break away velcro mount :)
Reechforthesky 4 months ago
A good alternative to a helmet cam is HD video recording sunglasses...no wires, no tangles... search for "pivothead" on google and you should be able to find what I'm talking about
xiaobailian 5 months ago
A good alternative to a helmet cam is HD video recording sunglasses...no wires, no tangles... search for "pivothead" on google and you should be able to find what I'm talking about
xiaobailian 5 months ago
I had the exact same thing happen to me the other week - bloody embarrassing on a busy launch! I'm thinking of switching from GoPro to Contour.. thinking that design would be less susceptible when its on the side of your head as opposed to box on top like the GoPro
Murmur2k 6 months ago
@Murmur2k Any thing attached to your helmet can do this really. Check out the contours light handling, seems a bit too contrasty for me. Drift HD looks great!
Reechforthesky 6 months ago
@Reechforthesky yeah Contour+ looks great except for the video quality not being sharp enough. Think they are about to announce a new product so will see how that turns out.. Drift looks pretty good though
Murmur2k 6 months ago
This guy had some really bad time with his helmet cam:
nrk.no/sport/veko/1.7694281
Maybe its time for all NOT to take the risk.
GFerreiraAirborn 8 months ago
I've had the same issue with a helmet mounted vario snagging lines when top landings. I played with the positioning until the vario was on the helmet straps and clear of any lines.
sbwords 10 months ago
@TheYoudoob Can't think of any really.............
Reechforthesky 11 months ago
Hi - I want to share my idea so that people don't have to go through this.
You can avoid this pitfall by using high strength adhesive backed Velcro. Put this on the back of your camera casing and the other side on your helmet. Makes a great bond that breaks if the shit hits the fan.
SensiBleu 1 year ago 5
@SensiBleu Now that's a good idea!
Reechforthesky 1 year ago
ive had the same problem, when landing and turning to down the glider, the lines have caught, not a nice feeling having your head pulled down getting dragged!
jdh3515 1 year ago
Bit of Gaffa tape around the base of the Go pro so the lines slide up and over, kind of make a pyramid with the tape . Quick and easy.
Galvoflysoz 1 year ago
These kinds are also essential for beginners like me, since it's the only way I get to see the kinds of problems I need to be careful of. For example, I didn't realize just how powerful the turbulence of gliders that far away can be. I also liked the video 'paraglider crash', which very graphically demonstrates why skimming the edges of thermals is a bad idea and how much of a problem trees can be.
lexichronicle 1 year ago
Thanks for the warning....I'll stick to flying hang gliders....they're MUCH safer!
FutzAndTinker 2 years ago
Next time that you are flying with a helmet cam or any time that you are flying behind another paraglider you must remember to keep a bit of brakes in order to avoid the turbulence caused by the wing that is passing in front of you. lack of input increase your chances of a major colapse and ground tasting... :)
williamdeaguiar 2 years ago
Thanks for the tip. I actually had quite a lot of brake on because the wind was quite light. The wing was very lightly loaded which probably was why the collapse was so large. (1:58)
Reechforthesky 2 years ago
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sixstringmania 2 years ago
I suppose a course of action could be to reach up and break the camera off! It's attached by a plastic arm and clip which would proabably break with a determined bash!
Reechforthesky 2 years ago
There was a serious mistake there:
The correct order of actions should be
1.put the wing out of flight
2.Detach your harness from the canopy
3.and then take of the helmet.
you must never have your canopy attached to your harness and not wear a helmet
sixstringmania 2 years ago
Having your head attached to your canopy does tend to put a slightly different perspective on 'normal' safety procedures! Getting your canopy under control is very difficult because you can't raise your head to look and the lines are all caught up on your head and that's if you're on the ground! If it was to happen in flight even chucking your reserve may not help. Imagine 24 sq feet of glider thrashing about with your head attached to it!
Reechforthesky 2 years ago
No you did well releasing the whole mess.I remember one time i was preparing for ground handling and suddendly a strong gyst caused the glider to rotate in a way that some lines were taggled around my neck.The only thing i could do is to run along with it till i release my head.After that i`ve packed the glider and called it for the day hahaha.
(hope this time the comment will get posted (some connection problems))
sixstringmania 2 years ago
A very experienced pilot told me his helmet cam caught in a cascade while flying. Fortunately the camera was torn free, but it made me think. I've moved my cam to the front of my helmet to reduce such risks. There are benefits other than posting for other flyers and I've found it useful in evaluating decisions that I made, so I can reflect at leisure. Sometimes those decisions can be life-savers. I guess there's checks and balances in everything.
parateddy 2 years ago
i dont understand why this would make you not want a helmet cam. i know im not a paraglider person but it seems like the helmet cam had nothing to do with what happened.
motomobbers 3 years ago
Hi,
Helmet cams won't cause a problem in normal flight. Unfortunately, paragliders can collapse due to air turbulence and it is possible to get the camera tangled in the lines which will cause total loss of control! Luckily I was on the ground when it happened. Even on the ground I was lucky not to get dragged along the gournd which can cause major injury.
Reechforthesky 3 years ago
ooo. i see.
motomobbers 3 years ago
In skydiving, we have a cutaway system on our camera setup(helmet, camera, cam eye,tongue switch, etc.). It reqiures just a quick pull and your head/neck can be saved :o)
Perhaps it's not a bad idea to have such thing on your helmets too.
hristosky 2 years ago
That's a good idea!
Reechforthesky 2 years ago
I agree that the best solution in this situation is to undo your helmet chin strap and remove the helmet. I too have one of these Gopro Hero helmet cams and got mine caught up in one of my reserve lines after an SIV water landing.
parapilot09 3 years ago
I bet that was some really intersting footage!
Reechforthesky 3 years ago
It would have done, if I had remembered to turn the thing on, but my focus was on the challenging launch conditions.
parapilot09 3 years ago
vow, that is really interesting to see! do you think the camera would have gotten so tangled if you were airborn? i.e. would the weight of you hanging from your glider have changed anything? makes me think thrice before getting a helm cam....
anitahaf 3 years ago
Hi. Not so likely when flying. Your head is further from the lines and because the lines are under tension they hit the side of your helmet if you do get near them. If you get a big collapse in the air then the lines could tangle just like they did to me on the ground. Should this happen I now know my first reaction will be to undo my helmet strap! You do have to be careful at takeoff and landing. It's a risk............
Reechforthesky 3 years ago
thanks... good info!
anitahaf 3 years ago
Sinto muito carapalida! mas vc foi um mane! concordo q haja algum perigo, mas torcendo o tirante do jeito q vc fez! so prendendo mesmo! esperiencia propria! bom voo
jlindner 3 years ago
Yeap, I will seriously go to think about this !
vitornuevo 3 years ago
and you didnt swear once or did ya
hotelgardennepal 3 years ago
Was too busy trying to sort it out!!! Really didn't want to get dragged into a babed wire fence................
Reechforthesky 3 years ago
The same happend to me reech on hay bluff, one brake line wrapped around the camera when i was turning,it was very windy and it dragged me.
iforfly 3 years ago
It's not a 'fit and forget' thing, that's for sure!
Reechforthesky 3 years ago
Nice idea for video. have to disagree that a passing glider collapsed your wing though. Wind looks way to light and the gliders to far away.
The camera gives a good wide view and quality for a bullet cam.
Flyfever 3 years ago 2
Glider wakes are peculiar things. Being rotory in nature their effect varies greatly on topograhpy, wind speed, distance from glider generating the wake. We did a lot of ground handling that day. Where you were made a lot of difference to their effect. I unwittingly placed myself in just the right place to get whacked by the especially large wake of the glider taking off. The cam is very wide angle (170)
Reechforthesky 3 years ago