That one book, even if its korean doesnt have to be right, when its says that the only MA where achery that time. Beneath the Modern Arts like TKD (while Shotokan and Judo are also modern) are very rare an specific korean arts like Teakkyun, Subyokchigi, Sunmudo, Gicheon. By the way Hapkido evolved from Daito Ryu and was developed parallel to Aikido.
And also, all martial arts are technially MMA because they EVOLVED with trade and communication and travel. So anyone who claims to be practicing some kind of fantasy martial art where all the techniques are 'pure' are just kidding themselves because theres no such thing. People can only use what knowledge they have (koreas historical records or martial art are very few because of destruction) and so they can only try rebuild a martial culture from the peices they have left.
And yes, Korea would be respected more if its government admitted that the systems such as hapkido, taekwondo, yudo and kumdo were NEW. But you also must understand that these people have been oppressed and strangled. Its hard for a country to be united and positive when they have no culture. THAT is why they INTEGRATE other systems into an apparantly false history.
To think that koreans never had a sword martial art (i.e. soldiers using swords) is just STUPID. USE SOME COMON SENSE, cavemen even used rocks to cut things. things that cut are powerful weapons. pppppft i dunno if its even worth trying to teach you people something.
Its not impossible for a whole culture to be wiped out...and in korea's case, SO MUCH of their culture has been destroyed in the past wars from foreign occupation.
Try treating them with some respect, please, your embarrasing.
Since Korea has a lot of dance, they should invest in strip clubs and pole dance instead. Surely, we can all benefit from more stripping ladies and porn videos in the world.
It is true that Korean Martial arts took from Japanese. This was due to a 40+ year occupation of Korea and the destruction of culture by Japan. However to say that Korea did not have Sword arts or any martial arts prior is just stupid. Being so close to Japan and China and being able to maintain their borders for 1000 years required that such skills existed. I am prior military, I have lived in japan for 2 years and been to Korea. Military science dictates Korea having native martial arts.
search" Textbooks on Past Offend South Korea’s Conservatives" written by Korean.
Korea wasn't invaded btw, it was annexation by the will of Korean ppl. There were 2 parties in Korea, one was Pro Japan, the other was Anti Japan, when they took a vote, ProJapan won and Korea ended up being annexed by Japan, but if Japan didn't annex, Korea would've became part of Russia and never could be independent country as of now. I really wish Japan didn't.
That is true, but Japanese imperial aggression played a huge role in that. Korean resistance formed and there was armed conflict against the Japanese. Germany and the Nazis annexed countries too, doesn't mean those countries wanted it. In the end the Soviet issue had to be dealt with anyway creating the Korean war in the 50's.
fabrication is true. Taekwondo from karate, except the archery, kumdo= kando, yudo=judo hapkido=arkido. But in your video you make it seems like our archery skills are from mongolian? Not true. But seems you like to over exaggerated as well.
I pity you...you must be a very sad person to be absorbed by such hate to the point where you make a 3 minute video bashing another countries culture.
Also, @1207daone, the technique of making swords of Korea were all destroyed by Japanese during their invasion. No one in Korea or anyone in the world knows. Korea worked so many years just to recover the fake history they wrote on our historical documents. Some still needs to be researched and re-written. The Japanese history you know now is really not the actually japanese history that you know now. It goes same for most of countries in Asia.
for your information, Japanese history keeping is known as farily accurate from west. Even Chinese agree to our historical records. only Korea disagrees. hmmm I wonder why.
you should read this article from New York Times web written by Korean. it explain how South Korean government teaches young kids their distorted histories.
search "Textbooks on Past Offend South Korea’s Conservatives "
Ok if you want to be mean and nasty about distortion of history.....
Japan is notorious for there distortion and teaching of world events. They teach the dropping of the atomic bomb, but totally remove their involvement in invading and raping the Phillipians, invading and raping China, invading Burma, invading and raping Korea for 40+ years and the attack on pearl harbor. All of this lead up to the bomb. Korean culture was crushed for 40 years by Japan.
I honestly don't know how you can think that Korea's sword mastery is copy of japanese.
Do you think they went out to war with bows only? what happens if they run out of arrows? they retreat? isnt it obvious that they used spears and swords too? in order to survive, not only bows they trained, but also sword mastery too. How stupid are you really?
I know that Kumdo/Kendo is same thing. I know Judo/Yudo is also japanese martial arts.
But you got something wrong. Tae Kwon Do is the modern version of Taek-kyun which was the martial arts of the military soldiers for over centuries, before that was Soo-Bak.
In Chosen Dynasty, the bow mastery were trained because Chosen Dynasty's bow skill is best among the asian countries. Even now, Olympic rules are changed just to make koreans not to win all gold,silver,bronze medals. Check the medal record.
and was very eager to retake the power on korea territory. This has become the priority among the Japan and the descendants or atleast thats what is to be believed(some historical documents found from Japan Palace) were the reason of the invasion of Korea in 1592.
How Baekjae king become the ruler of Japan?
Im not quite sure but the words were believed to be that one of the prince from Baekjae were sent to Japan to conquer along with a wife who came to Baekjae to ask for military support.
and was very eager to retake the power on korea territory. This has become the priority among the Japan and the descendants or atleast thats what is to be believed(some historical documents found from Japan Palace) were the reason of the invasion of Korea in 1592.
How Baekjae king become the ruler of Japan?
Im not quite sure but the words were believed to be that one of the prince from Baekjae were sent to Japan to conquer along with a wife who came to Baekjae to ask for military support.
and was very eager to retake the power on korea territory. This has become the priority among the Japan and the descendants or atleast thats what is to be believed(some historical documents found from Japan Palace) were the reason of the invasion of Korea in 1592.
How Baekjae king become the ruler of Japan?
Im not quite sure but the words were believed to be that one of the prince from Baekjae were sent to Japan to conquer along with a wife who came to Baekjae to ask for military support.
During the time of Goguri, Baekjae lost nearly entire territory to Goguri and the king of Baekjae fled to Japan. The king who was power eagered and feel threatened by his own nephew intentionally isolated his nephew from this war which led them to lose. However, Baekjae survived as country by kneeling to King of Goguri by the nephew who became the new king of Baekjae. The king who fled to Japan becamse tensho or the emperor or whatever the name that is ------*
Let me clarify something. As i said I dont know what the Korean claim. I just supporting the statement i have copied from wiki. As for those question not related to my statement i will try to answer.
>Which King was killed bay Hwang Chang? Can you prove?
You prefer fantasy folktale? My main focus is on 舞剑器 is derived from sword MA.
I will squeeze out time to read up your blog and do an analysis.
Pls enlighten me on Bonguk gum was made for this book, that is why it's new sword.
俗称mean the unofficial term/name the mass usually use. If this's a new art that the author wanna promotes then 俗称 will be invalid here. 也称为 would be a better words if he wanna add an alternative name. 新人或罗人can be used to refer 新罗人, as i said it depend which is commonly used(俗称).
且新羅隣於倭國則其舞劍器、必有相傳之術而不可攷矣。今因黄倡郞爲本國劍之縁起。Silla and Japan are neighbor, so there must be exchange in sword art but cant be verified. Therefore 黄倡郞 will be used as the origin of 本國劍.
Give me sometime to do an analysis as i find that there's quite a number of mistranslation. By reading the highlighted context, it's not going to tell the whole story. If able, i hope you can provide me the source...
So the source from wikipedia is still possible and valid. Kendo merged and supplanted traditional Korean sword...
You did mention about Samguk Sagi, did you come across Kim Yushin story?
Take a look at this .thehistoryblog.cm/archives/2583 So it's possible that during silla period there's sword art. There's record of silla(新罗) sword art in 武藝圖譜通志.
Did you watch all of my videos? What you said have been refuted. I've read Kim Yushin on Samguk Sagi Retsuden, there was nothing about sword art. I've read Bonguk Geom on MTD, it just introduced a folk tale and the author labeled the 7 years old boy as the origin of the sword art but he also wrote it's newly made one. As I said there were points of a Korean learned sword art but it had never been nation wide culture and nobody inherited it.
Any country had swords but only Koreans claim they had sword arts which looked exactly same as the Japanese sword arts that were started in the 15-16th century. Does it make sense to you?
俗稱新劍 means "also known as new sword"
新 in 新罗(Silla) <- far-fetced
Bonguk gum was made for this book, that is why it's new sword. Hwang Chang folk tale was used to give plausible history to the sword art.
舞剑 is usually mean martial art perfomance like those done by shaolin monk. That is how the Chinese practice their kungfu in the past. If you say that 黄倡郞 dont know sword art, then how can he get pass the royal guard and killed the King?
Sword dance(SD) was derived from sword art. It's recorded that during Tang dynasty, SD became popular and was mainly performed for entertainment in royal courts.
As you see, just having sword and spear doesn't mean they had "sword/spear arts" You need to prove "connected history".
1. How come Korean sword arts in BC 400 - AD 900 looked exactly same as Japanese sword arts started in AD 1500-1600?
2. List Bonguk gum successors with historical records.
3. How come Korean gumdo players use Kendo uniform and armor and Shinai, there suppose to be Korean traditional uniform for practicing sword arts since Silla.
So what you see as Korean martial arts today are basically all copies because Koreans didn't have martial art culture except archery. Try to find photos of Korean martial arts during Joseon period, there's none.
Here's Korea's infamous Uriginal method. They copy, add something to make difference, created far-fetched history, claim those are Korean original.
Korea chose Taekwondo which was copy of Karate for Korean official olympic game.If they had "truly traditional" one, they didn't have to pick the copy one.
My 1st comment is extracted from wikipedia. I not sure what's the full story about, what the Korean claimed.
As you can see, you replied my 1st comment claiming that it's invaild as "There wasn't Korean martial arts in the beginning." Later you claim that "there were traces of a Korean learned sword arts" After that you are not convinced that there's sword art in Korean. I think we should focus on the timeline. 武藝諸譜 written on 1598 while Korea under Japan rule during 1910-1945.
@BuffonSarutobi Let me clarify something.1st, I am not a Korean. I'm just a passerby seeking for some entertainment. Secondly, I dont think what I brought up is irrelevant. It does support my previous statement. As I'm from SEA, my country was under Japanese rule too. In order to remove the west influence, Japan culture were promoted by force, little compromise were given. Well,lets drop this sensitive topic. What matters is the present, let's stop dwelling in the past and get back to the topic.
>"In fact, Japan encouraged Kendo to Korean police officers and that is what you guys call Gumdo today." Do you mean "Encouraged"? The world still remember the war crime your ancestor committed.
My apology.. I really dont wanna stir up the past...
Let's make an assumption. Let's assume that you're right, Korean only did archery skill at that time(1598). So the motive of this book is to revive martial art/military training during the Joseon Dynasty due to foreign invasion. The book is inspired by 紀效新書, written by the Chinese general Qi Jiguang. So after 1598, sword art was included in Korean military training. Is my previous comment invalid?
Like I always say, there were traces of a Korean learned sword arts, but somehow nobody inherited it. There is no trace of sword arts practiced nation wide. There's no connected history of sword arts in Korea. No record or photo of swordsman. No historical episodes like Japanese Shinsengumi or the 47 Ronin. No sword art school recorded. If Korea had traditional sword arts, they don't have to copy Kendo anyway.
"Common soldiers hardly ever wear swords, only officers and mandarins of a higher rank are armed with such of Japanese make,
but they are all old and rusty, and it is more than likely that these also were brought into the country by the Japanese, and were left behind.on their withdrawal.(in 300 years ago)"
This was written before 1900, it's clear Korea didn't have sword culture unlike Japan.
I've read Samguk Sagi and there is nothing about certain sword arts. It's nothing special to have antique swords, many countries have them. Korea's problem is they claim they had sword arts that exactly same as Japanese traditional sword arts and they even dress like Japanese in Edo period. Google "Haedong Gumdo is Japanese sword arts knockoff"
Korean swordsmanship declined during the end of the Koryo period and beginning of the Chosun period. Japan began a policy of eradication of Korean culture around 1900. In 1910 the Japanese began modifying Korean heritage and outlawing Korean martial arts which changed Gumdo and merged it with kendo.
That's popular belief in Korea but not a historical fact. There wasn't Korean martial arts in the beginning. None of Sotokufu Kanpo described the order of banning Korean MA. In fact, Japan encouraged Kendo to Korean police officers and that is what you guys call Gumdo today. because of hatem, Koreans don't want to say Kendo. Racism is another Uriginal reason.
1 comment though, Korea had to have some sort of Martial Art because they did eventually fight off the Chinese and took control of their lands back in the day. Of course theres prob no records of what the martial art was or looked like.
@BuffonSarutobi oh thats news to me. wheres can i find the video?
and just because there arent records doesnt mean it didnt exist. I'm not questioning your video, i agree with you. but many martial arts are created and disappear too, like chinese fighting systems prior to shaolin temple.
Korea has some records like Muyedobo but there's no connected history since then. Martial arts for Koreans was only for kakyo testing, never had been enthusiastic. The reasons why Koreans today like martial arts are, one is Japanese effection, two is pop culture. Gumdo is Kendo 剣道, Dojan is Dojo 道場, Hapkido is Aikido 合気道, they all use Japanese words which means they didn't have them.
copy free? who would copy this shit? So you went to a library that had ONE book? Wow, extensive research. If you actually think any country in the world was only armed with bows, you are just too stupid to communicate with.
I see so many fabrication of Korean martial arts. Their so called, traditional martial arts are mix of Chinese and Japanese martial arts. Just watch some Korean martial arts videos and you can see what I mean. Fighting by holding a Katana with both hands is seen only in Samurai fighting style. Warriors except Japanese hold a sword and a shield at battles. And technique of making Katana is only seen in Japan. China imported Katana from Japan. Korea used Chinese swords. not Japanese until recent.
Korean armour and sword is diffrent from the moves and style from the japanese korean moves was most a looking a like to chinese while japanese moves and armourswa to vroad and squardy
LOLZ AND KENDO TO KUMDO JUDO TO YUDO AND WHAT?!!! KARATE TO TAE KWON DO?!! OMG... HWARANG DO DIDNT EXSIST?!! FABRICATION?!! OH GOD.... OH MY... HOW AM I SUPPOSED TEACH THESE IGNORANT IDIOTS.... KUMDO MEANS KENDO! WE HAVE DIFFERENT PRONOUNCIATION WE PRONOUNCE KENDO,KUMDO JUDO, YUDO ITS 2 DIFFERENT LANGUAGE OBVIOUSLY ITS DIFFERENT YOU GUYS CALL JAPAN NIPPON RITE? WE CALL JAPAN ILLBON SEE THE DIFFERENCE? WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROUNCIATION DUMFUCK MONKEYS OH GOD
SO I GUESS BEK JE SSA UL AH BI AND SILLA HAWRANG AND GOGURYU JOEU SON IN IS ALL LEGEND HUH? HMMM.... I WONDER HOW THEY FOUGHT WITHOUT A MARTIAL ART CUZ THAT JUST SOUNDS RIDICULOUS
South Korean shamelessly, WANT TO BE HAPPY JAPAN IMAGE, but based on lies and falsehood. CREATING A PROSPEROUS COUNTRY SHOULD NOT THE OTHER WITH DISQUALIFY libel. Even if I stay calm, because I know they are digging their own graves. PD. THANKS TO THESE VIDEOS ARE GIVEN TO KNOW THE WORLD POPULATION scoundrel GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS AND THE POPULATION OF SOUTH KOREA, EXCEPT FOR THE FEW GOOD South Korean HONORED AND HEART OF THIS WORLD.
@BuffonMusa Yer they werent as good as the Japanese at sword fighting, so they adapted and gave themselves the advantage. Look at Trafalgar, out numbered, the british fleet still won coz they had the advantege of better gunners and adapted to what was needed and changed tac-tics to utilise their superior gunnery thus destroying the french and spanish fleets. The Koreans did the same, they didnt fight like the Japanese wanted to coz they would loose so they fought like they wanted to and won
@BuffonMusa when your nation is invaded you throw everything you've got at your enemy, including your allied superpower. still my point is EVERYONE used swords, and spears, a king can say what ever he wants, but he had spear men and his officers would of had swords. Two quotes does NOT count as a legitimate proof of a nations military culture for thousands of years! If your point is that all Korean martial arts are fake, remember it only takes one family/village/line to keep it alive
@BuffonMusa What ever, nothing anyone says is ever going to change your mind, and im not going to debate with you, I dont have time to put in extensive research like you clearly do, im too busy actually studying martial arts. so while you try to prove to the world that all Koreans martial arts are 'fake' im putting every effort into Haidong Gumdo and Karate and trying to best mesh them t fill out each others gaps and compliment each other, so enjoy.
Actually, the way Korea research history is like you, first they have a nationalistic theory and build up other theories to back-up the first theory.
But what we(history researchers from other countries) need is a slid evidence.
If you say Korea had sword art culture like what Japan had, did Korea have swordman like Musashi? Bokuden? Are there Ryuha scroll or menkyo papers? Japan has thousands of remains of evidence of sword arts.
@BuffonMusa You have no idea what I believe, the koreans can go around saying what they want, you can go around saying what you want, my point is haidong gumdo is great, it's a great martial art, the sword play is brilliant, the discipline is brilliant, its artistic, its dramatic, its damn well effective, and it hasn't been ritualised to the point of absolute monotony like almost every Japanese weapon martial art, you wouldn't know this because you're not a martial artist, you're just a sad boy
Respond to this video... the fact you have to go and troll every Korean martial art video and claim that the entire nation are 'fraudulent' is just sad. you may fancy you're self a historian, but you are far too opinionated, and poring your hate into youtube will not achieve anything. you may fancy yourself a martial artist but you can't see the value in anything which doesnt pay homage to the Japanese, your sole purpose is to spread hate...... that is not the martial way
However I am not the only one since Korean nationalists have been deceiving people in many countries.
If you bring interesting historical records or some kind of primary source for your opinion, it's fun to discuss but you and all other Koreanoias never bring those.
They just post randomly without any proof.
One guy just posted Yi Sunshin movie as primary source.
@BuffonMusa You kinda contradicted yourself a bit, saying korea copied japanese martial arts. Any sword art has not been succeeded from ancient time in our country."(1594) this applies to the Joseon dynasty, not modern day. Modern day equipment has enabled people to go further back in history and recover things that were lost. It has happened even here in England with celtic war fare and anglo saxon echniques, and guess what they use swords :O they must of copied the Japanese. Stop being racist
Korea is grand? Tributary state to china for god knows how many centuries, enslaved by the japanese for almost 2 centuries. Now split in the middle by the Chinese & Americans. Only the poor pathetic koreans would think of themselves as grand. Mwahahaha....!!!
No, I should thank you fucking koreans for being so shameless. Keep faking stories of korean history n culture. There's nothing grand abt korea, it's all in your own imagination. Let u know why ppl buy korean goods and go korea for holidays - becoz u guys are fucking cheap.
Yangban were not lazy. Some entered their government service. Samurai sort of lost their purpose after the Tokugawa regime was established because of period of peace was ushered in Japan. The concept of Bushido was codified and written down at the time eventhough the idea had existed. Some samurai set up kendo schools other entered goverment service and/or became bureacrats. Martial arts has a long history in Korea unfortunately some of it was lost.
This is nothing new ie. Koreans "stealing" another culture and claiming it to be their own. The oldest Korean martial arts and traditional medicine manuals were all writing in Han Chinese. So where do you think they originated from? These shameless Koreans recently claimed that dragon boat festival originated in Korea and had to withdraw their claims after getting screwed by China for their false claims.
Background of Japanese Karate. For a start its not actually japanese, it originated in Okinawa then came to japan during the annexation period of Okinawa. It was called Te meaning "hand" or "CHINESE hand" but it was changed to Karate to make it more Japanese sounding. Karate and Tae Kwon Do are very very very different, look at Kata and Taeguk. the patterns are completely different. Tae Kwon Do have a lot more kicks, which came from Taekkyon, NOT Karate.
Where in that video does they say its korean? the company trying to sell the dvd say its in korea which it is but the guys training say its originally from Egypt :/ A hell of a lot of martial arts look the same because we have 2 arms and 2 legs, just like what Bruce Lee said. Just coz they look similar doesn't mean they are copied. you should research more stand up arts like sanshou and different forms of karate, they look pretty similar to each other, just wear different clothes
@MrWotshisface LoL They wear muay thai clothes but have no a single word to refering or crediting to muay thai. What a retart trying to confusing people then making mind set that korea also have this style of fighting that is kyuktooki. It's the same dirty way that korea do with judo aikido and karate.
@sahapoom1975 So what if one guy wears Thai shorts? i know MMA people who wear thai shorts, i know trickers that wear Thai shorts, hell i do Tae Kwon Do and wear Tapout shorts when im training at home. What people wear doesnt show who they are or what they do. That video, the guy says nothin about it coming from Korea. judo and karate? Karate came from Okinawa not Japan, Judo is the same as Ju-Jitsu except the guy who 'created' it couldnt be arsed teaching the strikes of Ju-Jitsu
@MrWotshisface Are you crazy? They're obviously practicing Muay Thai not only Thai short they even wear arm band dedicated to Thai tradition and all the move is Muay Thai. You may not know mma is stand for mixed martial art, so mma guys wear Thai short that because they practicing Muay Thai.
@sahapoom1975 I know that MMA stands for Mixed Martial Arts. Its Mixed Martial Arts, not every single MMA fighter does Muay Thai. Cung Le prime example
@MrWotshisface Can you tell me what the propose of that vdo about Korean people practicing Muay Thai and talking to the world that it originates from Egypt no saying a word about Muay Thai but Kyutooki? What does Kyutooki to do with Muay Thai?
@sahapoom1975 That video was by turtle press to sell dvds about martial arts. They arnt practicing Muay Thai. They are practicing Kyuktooki. It may well have been influenced by Muay Thai. A lot of martial arts have been influenced by other martial arts and cultures like muay thai has from muay boran and other thai arts. Kyuktooki isnt Muay Thai its Kyuktooki
@MrWotshisface Bingo!!! you're confessing to the world that Korea're trying to copy Muay Thai by making VDO, Korean practicing Muay Thai vdo, and liar to the world that it's not Muay Thai it's Kyuktooki originates from Korea. Making a big liar, keep repeating until people believe is your Korean's motto. What's a shame.
@MrWotshisface Bingo!!! you're confessing to the world that Korea're trying to copy Muay Thai by making VDO, Korean practicing Muay Thai vdo, and liar to the world that it's not Muay Thai it's Kyuktooki originates from Korea. Making a big liar, keep repeating until people believe is your Korean's motto.
@MrWotshisface By the way, it's not influenced by Muay Thai, it's completely copy of Muay Thai then change the name and claim it. I bet you're a kid, go to bed and have your parents talk to me.
@sahapoom1975 But you dont even practice any Martial arts, are you japanese by any chance? if you are and even if your not learn your own history and culture before criticizing others. Learn the really history of Korea then may be you might understand. For the record im not a kid, unlike some immature keyboard warriors on youtube.
@MrWotshisface I am Thai and I know my history. You're not a kid but you're so ignorant, you can see by your own eyes in the vdo, Korean wear Thai short with Thai script, Thai arm band and Muay Thai move, but you deny it besides you claim it's Kyuktooki. WTF is this.
@sahapoom1975 Yer they wear thai shorts, but they also wear dobok, Korean clothing, that fact of what they wear doesnt really prove what 'style' it is. Maybe they wear thai shorts because it is more comfortable? either way, your original point isnt true, the people in that video do not say they created that MA and its traditional. All they say is that they are practicing it . Sorry if i have offended you, thats the last thing i wonna do, i was just making a valid point against your argument
@MrWotshisface They didn't wear Thai short and do an aerobic, they act like Muay Thai sparring and if they wear Thai short just for an aerobic whey the hell they have to wear Thai arm band also, it's nonsense. Keep liaring never confess, is that another your Korean motto.
@MrWotshisface The problem is they didn't say they create that MA and it's tradition but they said they practicing Kyuktooki. What's the different if you say, I didn't stole you money but your money is in my pocket.
@MrWotshisface You may not stole my money, you may borrowed me but I forgot. Likewise, Kyuktooki may not stole Muay Thai but you never say you borrow from Muay Thai. Give some credit to others don't make Korea less smart instead you will get more friends and support.
@sahapoom1975 what the hell are you on about? all i was saying is that it was wrong to say somthing that isnt true. Im not Korean im English so shut it we pwnd you all. I dont agree with Korean people claiming stuff as their's just as much as i dont agree with people putting shit on youtube that is just racist. the things i could say about thai people. Shut the hell up and grow up. Its the internet, who do you think actually cares? Other racists like you.
@MrWotshisface Are you an idiot or something? All I say is about my country tradition and I know it well but you, an English stupid, say it isn't true. Racist? trying to tell the truth is racist? protecting my own tradition is racist? catching the thief is racist? I don't think so. It's only you and me but you used the word "Thai people" who is the racist? The things I could say to an idiot like you is get licking your Korean boyband's ass, stop shiting on your pants and go to bed.
@sahapoom1975 You know what, fuck you. you just proved yourself as racist by calling me English stupid so stuff you thai barbarian. The only theif is the japanese for stealing Korea's artifacts during the annexation. Why would they want to steal thai culture? Korea have better food, traditions, clothing and martial arts. You are the one generalising Koreans by calling them 'the thief'. You are the racist one. Grow up and realise that cultures are INFLUENCED by other cutures, all over the world
@MrWotshisface First of all, fuck you idiot. you just proved yourself a Korean's asshole not English stupid. Your reply is sound like Korean pretending to be someone else. You don't even know the different between INFLUENCED and COPYING WTF. lol how short of your memory, we're talking about Muay Thai and Korean Kyuktooki dump ass.
@MrWotshisface I don't angry but yes I annoyed your idiocy. You think you are right but where the hell have you been for months after my last debate that you cannot answer. Stop shiting on your own pants and stop pretending to be someone else. Have some dog and play with your mama kid.
@sahapoom1975 I am right, no where in that video you posted do they say they invented that martial art. thats what i was saying and you flew off the handle so shut it. Im not pretending to be some one else, im proud to be English. And months? it was a few weeks, i was enjoying my life away from youtube and idiot racist people. Go play with your lady boys and eat some cock with dude who has tits. Dirty greb
@MrWotshisface From the vdo description " This is a short documentary on the Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki, which is often seen in K-1 style fighting." and Korean in the vdo dressing and sparring like Muay Thai said this kind of martial art is originated from Egypt. Do you know what it mean, little brain?
@MrWotshisface I'll teach you some common sense lesson. Korean try to convincing people to believe that the striking style of fighting in K-1 is Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki that originated from Egypt not Muay Thai. Do you get it? It's the process of Copy, Change the name and Claim it.
@MrWotshisface You said you enjoy your life away from YouTube and idiot racist people but up to now you've showed your attitude as an idiot racist people that you hate. Why do you still be here and be Korean balls that because you idiot and racist. I believe you must be Korean, maybe you're son of Korean that run a Japanese restaurant in England or better you are a gay partner of Korean gay in England.
@sahapoom1975 Im not going to argue with you any more. Your mind can not be changed. I am English and only English. I am proud of that am interested in what is going on in the East. I must say you have put me off Thailand now. Go fuck yourself and ladyboys. people like you give a bad name to the east and most people that i can speak for think that most people are racist against Korea for no reason. No Korean that i have met in life or internet has had anything bad to say. Go suck a 'girls' cock
@MrWotshisface Now you do it again, running away like a little girl, when you cannot argue to my reason. I gave you many rational argues but you ignored and bitching at me. You're the one who came back and abused me after a month of your hiding. Look at your own bitchy reply, be honest to yourself, are there any differents to the racist that you hate. If you think you're better than others that because you're a racist.
@MrWotshisface Thank god that you'll not come to Thailand, there're many places on earth that welcome an idiot, bias, ignorant and racist people like you.
@MrWotshisface I give you a chance. just answer me that the following massage taken from Korean Kyuktooki vdo is TRUE OR FAULT.
"This is a short documentary on the Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki, which is often seen in K-1 style fighting." and Korean in the vdo dressing and sparring like Muay Thai said this kind of martial art is originated from Egypt.
Just TRUE OR FAULT don't distract to another point.
@sahapoom1975 You are the one going away from the point. It may well be a rip off of Muay Thai. You said that the people in the video said they invented it. The people in the video do not say that they invented it. They say that Egyptian fighters used to wrap their hands and that is the nearest thing. Im not denying that it is a rip off of Muay Thai but that yuo said they said something when they didnt.
@MrWotshisface First, I never said they invented Muay Thai. Go back to read my earlier post then tell me I'm wrong. Second, in the sub of that vdo they said "The origin of the art is known as Egypt.", watch that vdo again then tell me i'm wrong. I never go away of my point but you even this time you keep distracting away of my question that you cannot answer.
@MrWotshisface Go back to read my earlier post and watch that vdo again as I asked you in my last post then tell me I'm RIGHT OR WRONG no more distraction just RIGHT OR WRONG.
@sahapoom1975 fair enough i agree that these guys are trying to be like Muay Thai but Kyuktooki its self is just basically full contact rules. It can be argued that it is a martial art but it isnt really. Its just a Korean full contact rule set really. The name its self loosely translates as Competition Style Techniques. To say its a traditional martial art is wrong. I cba arguing with you anymore, im more mature than that and have better things to do.
@MrWotshisface Finally we agree in some way. I don't hate Korean personally but I hate the dirty way they promote their stuff by claiming the striking style in K-1 is the Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki. The worst thing that too much for me and all Thai is they said "The origin of the art is known as Egypt." while they obviously dressing and sparring Muay Thai. They can give credit to Egypt but why not to Thai?
@MrWotshisface It's show disrespect to Thai. If they give credit to Thai at the first place it'll be a different story. Thai will respect and support their activities in all ways. By the way I'm not a keyboard warrior nor racist. I'm mature and have better thing to do too. Nice to talk to you and hope you have a nice day and sorry for some bad thing.
<"The reason korean martial art books are missing is because japan burned <them all during the annexation period. They also murdered many korean martial art <masters in the process. "
Please stop making sorry excueses. It only makes you look worse.
Instead you should be proud of your Chosen Culture. You had some nice shit going on back then too. You are just diffrent from Japanese. Get it? just diffrent, not worse or better.
The reason korean martial art books are missing is because japan burned them all during the annexation period. They also murdered many korean martial art masters in the process. Only a small handful were able to escape to china or russia and that is why not all old traditional korean martial art are around anymore.
@babotaechi If Japanese army kill korean martial artist to the point of massacre, it means these martial artists aren't that good in combat then. Cos ummm,..... they got killed by "less skillful" Japanese military men.
@rimidalvetarak So do you wonna go up against a person with a gun? It doesnt matter how much martial arts experience you have, you will lose against a gun, look at the meiji restoration. when the samurai where killed by people using rifles. Thought the Samurai were meant to be the elite of the elite
@MrWotshisface Good point. Martial art is about the art of surviving or self defence. Not limited to kicking or punching etc. Any level headed martial artists will run away from man with a gun or in fact adapting the gun themselves.
Being able to adapt to changing time and technology in order to survive is the "soul" so to speak , of martial art.
I believe the m. art should serve the practitioners, not vice cersa.
That one book, even if its korean doesnt have to be right, when its says that the only MA where achery that time. Beneath the Modern Arts like TKD (while Shotokan and Judo are also modern) are very rare an specific korean arts like Teakkyun, Subyokchigi, Sunmudo, Gicheon. By the way Hapkido evolved from Daito Ryu and was developed parallel to Aikido.
Gieszkanne 18 hours ago
And also, all martial arts are technially MMA because they EVOLVED with trade and communication and travel. So anyone who claims to be practicing some kind of fantasy martial art where all the techniques are 'pure' are just kidding themselves because theres no such thing. People can only use what knowledge they have (koreas historical records or martial art are very few because of destruction) and so they can only try rebuild a martial culture from the peices they have left.
buakawfan333 3 days ago
And yes, Korea would be respected more if its government admitted that the systems such as hapkido, taekwondo, yudo and kumdo were NEW. But you also must understand that these people have been oppressed and strangled. Its hard for a country to be united and positive when they have no culture. THAT is why they INTEGRATE other systems into an apparantly false history.
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX dont throw sticks at it.
buakawfan333 3 days ago
To think that koreans never had a sword martial art (i.e. soldiers using swords) is just STUPID. USE SOME COMON SENSE, cavemen even used rocks to cut things. things that cut are powerful weapons. pppppft i dunno if its even worth trying to teach you people something.
Its not impossible for a whole culture to be wiped out...and in korea's case, SO MUCH of their culture has been destroyed in the past wars from foreign occupation.
Try treating them with some respect, please, your embarrasing.
buakawfan333 3 days ago
Since Korea has a lot of dance, they should invest in strip clubs and pole dance instead. Surely, we can all benefit from more stripping ladies and porn videos in the world.
rimidalvetarak 4 days ago
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I think some facist japanese trolling and insulting korea on youtube is very funny
I'm south korean and I love japan too^_^ peace
life is short
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backs998 2 weeks ago
Japanese history lie deceive humans
backs998 2 weeks ago
It is true that Korean Martial arts took from Japanese. This was due to a 40+ year occupation of Korea and the destruction of culture by Japan. However to say that Korea did not have Sword arts or any martial arts prior is just stupid. Being so close to Japan and China and being able to maintain their borders for 1000 years required that such skills existed. I am prior military, I have lived in japan for 2 years and been to Korea. Military science dictates Korea having native martial arts.
SeaWarriorification 3 weeks ago
@SeaWarriorification
search" Textbooks on Past Offend South Korea’s Conservatives" written by Korean.
Korea wasn't invaded btw, it was annexation by the will of Korean ppl. There were 2 parties in Korea, one was Pro Japan, the other was Anti Japan, when they took a vote, ProJapan won and Korea ended up being annexed by Japan, but if Japan didn't annex, Korea would've became part of Russia and never could be independent country as of now. I really wish Japan didn't.
1207daone 3 weeks ago
@1207daone
That is true, but Japanese imperial aggression played a huge role in that. Korean resistance formed and there was armed conflict against the Japanese. Germany and the Nazis annexed countries too, doesn't mean those countries wanted it. In the end the Soviet issue had to be dealt with anyway creating the Korean war in the 50's.
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韩国人再编，再骗，也不能掩盖中国对他的影响。
韩国没有文化，没有文字，更没有修养和谦卑。
真丢亚洲人的脸。。。。。
shannonlzd 1 month ago
fabrication is true. Taekwondo from karate, except the archery, kumdo= kando, yudo=judo hapkido=arkido. But in your video you make it seems like our archery skills are from mongolian? Not true. But seems you like to over exaggerated as well.
cspark809 1 month ago
I pity you...you must be a very sad person to be absorbed by such hate to the point where you make a 3 minute video bashing another countries culture.
MrEvergreen94 1 month ago
Racism. The disgustingness of your thoughts shows the filthy nature of your soul.
angrykorean 1 month ago
Also, @1207daone, the technique of making swords of Korea were all destroyed by Japanese during their invasion. No one in Korea or anyone in the world knows. Korea worked so many years just to recover the fake history they wrote on our historical documents. Some still needs to be researched and re-written. The Japanese history you know now is really not the actually japanese history that you know now. It goes same for most of countries in Asia.
So many destroyed, so many lost during ww2.
zzang86 1 month ago
@zzang86
for your information, Japanese history keeping is known as farily accurate from west. Even Chinese agree to our historical records. only Korea disagrees. hmmm I wonder why.
you should read this article from New York Times web written by Korean. it explain how South Korean government teaches young kids their distorted histories.
search "Textbooks on Past Offend South Korea’s Conservatives "
have a good one.
1207daone 1 month ago
@1207daone
Ok if you want to be mean and nasty about distortion of history.....
Japan is notorious for there distortion and teaching of world events. They teach the dropping of the atomic bomb, but totally remove their involvement in invading and raping the Phillipians, invading and raping China, invading Burma, invading and raping Korea for 40+ years and the attack on pearl harbor. All of this lead up to the bomb. Korean culture was crushed for 40 years by Japan.
SeaWarriorification 3 weeks ago
I honestly don't know how you can think that Korea's sword mastery is copy of japanese.
Do you think they went out to war with bows only? what happens if they run out of arrows? they retreat? isnt it obvious that they used spears and swords too? in order to survive, not only bows they trained, but also sword mastery too. How stupid are you really?
zzang86 1 month ago
I know that Kumdo/Kendo is same thing. I know Judo/Yudo is also japanese martial arts.
But you got something wrong. Tae Kwon Do is the modern version of Taek-kyun which was the martial arts of the military soldiers for over centuries, before that was Soo-Bak.
In Chosen Dynasty, the bow mastery were trained because Chosen Dynasty's bow skill is best among the asian countries. Even now, Olympic rules are changed just to make koreans not to win all gold,silver,bronze medals. Check the medal record.
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and was very eager to retake the power on korea territory. This has become the priority among the Japan and the descendants or atleast thats what is to be believed(some historical documents found from Japan Palace) were the reason of the invasion of Korea in 1592.
How Baekjae king become the ruler of Japan?
Im not quite sure but the words were believed to be that one of the prince from Baekjae were sent to Japan to conquer along with a wife who came to Baekjae to ask for military support.
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and was very eager to retake the power on korea territory. This has become the priority among the Japan and the descendants or atleast thats what is to be believed(some historical documents found from Japan Palace) were the reason of the invasion of Korea in 1592.
How Baekjae king become the ruler of Japan?
Im not quite sure but the words were believed to be that one of the prince from Baekjae were sent to Japan to conquer along with a wife who came to Baekjae to ask for military support.
zzang86 1 month ago
and was very eager to retake the power on korea territory. This has become the priority among the Japan and the descendants or atleast thats what is to be believed(some historical documents found from Japan Palace) were the reason of the invasion of Korea in 1592.
How Baekjae king become the ruler of Japan?
Im not quite sure but the words were believed to be that one of the prince from Baekjae were sent to Japan to conquer along with a wife who came to Baekjae to ask for military support.
zzang86 1 month ago
During the time of Goguri, Baekjae lost nearly entire territory to Goguri and the king of Baekjae fled to Japan. The king who was power eagered and feel threatened by his own nephew intentionally isolated his nephew from this war which led them to lose. However, Baekjae survived as country by kneeling to King of Goguri by the nephew who became the new king of Baekjae. The king who fled to Japan becamse tensho or the emperor or whatever the name that is ------*
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@BuffonSarutobi
Let me clarify something. As i said I dont know what the Korean claim. I just supporting the statement i have copied from wiki. As for those question not related to my statement i will try to answer.
>Which King was killed bay Hwang Chang? Can you prove?
You prefer fantasy folktale? My main focus is on 舞剑器 is derived from sword MA.
I will squeeze out time to read up your blog and do an analysis.
Pls enlighten me on Bonguk gum was made for this book, that is why it's new sword.
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@BuffonSarutobi & HKisalie
俗称mean the unofficial term/name the mass usually use. If this's a new art that the author wanna promotes then 俗称 will be invalid here. 也称为 would be a better words if he wanna add an alternative name. 新人或罗人can be used to refer 新罗人, as i said it depend which is commonly used(俗称).
且新羅隣於倭國則其舞劍器、必有相傳之術而不可攷矣。今因黄倡郞爲本國劍之縁起。Silla and Japan are neighbor, so there must be exchange in sword art but cant be verified. Therefore 黄倡郞 will be used as the origin of 本國劍.
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
Please check my blog sometimes. I am showing the original texts of historical records there.
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Give me sometime to do an analysis as i find that there's quite a number of mistranslation. By reading the highlighted context, it's not going to tell the whole story. If able, i hope you can provide me the source...
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
Muyedobotongji 技芸質疑
国家偏虚海外從古所搏只有弓矢一技至於剣槍則徒有其器顧無習
"Since Korea is located away from the main continent, archery has been the only martial art that is widely practiced from the old days.
There are the sword and spear, but they are rarely practiced."
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@BuffonSarutobi
continued...
So the source from wikipedia is still possible and valid. Kendo merged and supplanted traditional Korean sword...
You did mention about Samguk Sagi, did you come across Kim Yushin story?
Take a look at this .thehistoryblog.cm/archives/2583 So it's possible that during silla period there's sword art. There's record of silla(新罗) sword art in 武藝圖譜通志.
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
Did you watch all of my videos? What you said have been refuted. I've read Kim Yushin on Samguk Sagi Retsuden, there was nothing about sword art. I've read Bonguk Geom on MTD, it just introduced a folk tale and the author labeled the 7 years old boy as the origin of the sword art but he also wrote it's newly made one. As I said there were points of a Korean learned sword art but it had never been nation wide culture and nobody inherited it.
BuffonMusa 2 months ago 4
@BuffonMusa
What weapon did Kim Yushin used during the war? I believe that Silla is heavy influenced by Tang Dynasty. Both country have record of their relation.
There's little mistranslation in your clips.
本國劍 （俗稱新劍）the 新 here refer to 新 in 新罗(Silla), not adjective meaning of 新，new. 俗稱 mean commonly know as (name).
象其容为假面，作舞剑之状至今传之It mean "account of resemble of masked sword performance has being passed down till now"
舞in舞剑 is a verb, not only mean dance but also wield and brandish
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
Any country had swords but only Koreans claim they had sword arts which looked exactly same as the Japanese sword arts that were started in the 15-16th century. Does it make sense to you?
俗稱新劍 means "also known as new sword"
新 in 新罗(Silla) <- far-fetced
Bonguk gum was made for this book, that is why it's new sword. Hwang Chang folk tale was used to give plausible history to the sword art.
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@BuffonSarutobi
4. Show me Bonguk gum certificate during Joseon period.
5. Any historical record about Bonguk gum other than Muyedobotongji?
6. Why Hwang Chang wasn't on Samuguk sagi Silla Bongi or Retsuden?
7. Why there was no sword art dojo in Korea before Japanese occupation?
8. Why there's no photo of swordsman in Korea during Joseon period?
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@halfbottleofwater
My apple panphlet says iPhone4s is a 新製品new product from Apple. Since it has 新 iPhone was invented in Silla, right?
poodle8noodle 2 months ago
@BuffonMusa
While 舞in剑舞 is a noun, mean dance.
舞剑 is usually mean martial art perfomance like those done by shaolin monk. That is how the Chinese practice their kungfu in the past. If you say that 黄倡郞 dont know sword art, then how can he get pass the royal guard and killed the King?
Sword dance(SD) was derived from sword art. It's recorded that during Tang dynasty, SD became popular and was mainly performed for entertainment in royal courts.
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
Chinese martial arts are more like performing arts. But Gumdo is taking Japanese method. 剣舞 and 剣術 are different.
>how can he get pass the royal guard and killed the King?
Which King was killed bay Hwang Chang? Can you prove?
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@halfbottleofwater
As you see, just having sword and spear doesn't mean they had "sword/spear arts" You need to prove "connected history".
1. How come Korean sword arts in BC 400 - AD 900 looked exactly same as Japanese sword arts started in AD 1500-1600?
2. List Bonguk gum successors with historical records.
3. How come Korean gumdo players use Kendo uniform and armor and Shinai, there suppose to be Korean traditional uniform for practicing sword arts since Silla.
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@halfbottleofwater
So what you see as Korean martial arts today are basically all copies because Koreans didn't have martial art culture except archery. Try to find photos of Korean martial arts during Joseon period, there's none.
BuffonMusa 2 months ago
@BuffonMusa In the choson period didn't exist photo, are you ignorant?
do you live in the real world? hahaha
uritan2012 1 month ago
@uritan2012
Photos of late Joseon period are existing. What are you trying to say?
BuffonMusa 1 month ago
@halfbottleofwater
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
watch?v=N0NObemdQDE
watch?v=uxe-qMPbxQ4
watch?v=SW4J5WCrCEU
watch?v=J5ST2g-V0YU
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BuffonMusa 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
Here's Korea's infamous Uriginal method. They copy, add something to make difference, created far-fetched history, claim those are Korean original.
Korea chose Taekwondo which was copy of Karate for Korean official olympic game.If they had "truly traditional" one, they didn't have to pick the copy one.
BuffonMusa 2 months ago 8
My 1st comment is extracted from wikipedia. I not sure what's the full story about, what the Korean claimed.
As you can see, you replied my 1st comment claiming that it's invaild as "There wasn't Korean martial arts in the beginning." Later you claim that "there were traces of a Korean learned sword arts" After that you are not convinced that there's sword art in Korean. I think we should focus on the timeline. 武藝諸譜 written on 1598 while Korea under Japan rule during 1910-1945.
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@BuffonSarutobi Let me clarify something.1st, I am not a Korean. I'm just a passerby seeking for some entertainment. Secondly, I dont think what I brought up is irrelevant. It does support my previous statement. As I'm from SEA, my country was under Japanese rule too. In order to remove the west influence, Japan culture were promoted by force, little compromise were given. Well,lets drop this sensitive topic. What matters is the present, let's stop dwelling in the past and get back to the topic.
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@BuffonSarutobi
>"In fact, Japan encouraged Kendo to Korean police officers and that is what you guys call Gumdo today." Do you mean "Encouraged"? The world still remember the war crime your ancestor committed.
My apology.. I really dont wanna stir up the past...
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
I know when Koreans cannot answer logically they bring relevant things even Koreans were among the war criminals in those days.
BuffonSarutobi 2 months ago
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Did you finish reading 武藝諸譜(1598年)?? Never mind.
Let's make an assumption. Let's assume that you're right, Korean only did archery skill at that time(1598). So the motive of this book is to revive martial art/military training during the Joseon Dynasty due to foreign invasion. The book is inspired by 紀效新書, written by the Chinese general Qi Jiguang. So after 1598, sword art was included in Korean military training. Is my previous comment invalid?
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
Like I always say, there were traces of a Korean learned sword arts, but somehow nobody inherited it. There is no trace of sword arts practiced nation wide. There's no connected history of sword arts in Korea. No record or photo of swordsman. No historical episodes like Japanese Shinsengumi or the 47 Ronin. No sword art school recorded. If Korea had traditional sword arts, they don't have to copy Kendo anyway.
BuffonSarutobi 2 months ago
A forbidden land: voyages to the Corea 1880
Ernst Jakob Oppert
"Common soldiers hardly ever wear swords, only officers and mandarins of a higher rank are armed with such of Japanese make,
but they are all old and rusty, and it is more than likely that these also were brought into the country by the Japanese, and were left behind.on their withdrawal.(in 300 years ago)"
This was written before 1900, it's clear Korea didn't have sword culture unlike Japan.
BuffonSarutobi 2 months ago 3
@poodle8noodle
Go check out the old worn swords from the three kingdom era(67BC-668AD). So now are you going to tell me those are fabricated too?
Tang Dynasty influenced both Korea and Japan sword forging. So are you going to say China's history is fabricated too?
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
I've read Samguk Sagi and there is nothing about certain sword arts. It's nothing special to have antique swords, many countries have them. Korea's problem is they claim they had sword arts that exactly same as Japanese traditional sword arts and they even dress like Japanese in Edo period. Google "Haedong Gumdo is Japanese sword arts knockoff"
BuffonSarutobi 2 months ago
Korean swordsmanship declined during the end of the Koryo period and beginning of the Chosun period. Japan began a policy of eradication of Korean culture around 1900. In 1910 the Japanese began modifying Korean heritage and outlawing Korean martial arts which changed Gumdo and merged it with kendo.
halfbottleofwater 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
100% fabrication
poodle8noodle 2 months ago
@halfbottleofwater
>Japan outlawing Korean martial arts
That's popular belief in Korea but not a historical fact. There wasn't Korean martial arts in the beginning. None of Sotokufu Kanpo described the order of banning Korean MA. In fact, Japan encouraged Kendo to Korean police officers and that is what you guys call Gumdo today. because of hatem, Koreans don't want to say Kendo. Racism is another Uriginal reason.
BuffonSarutobi 2 months ago
haha great video
1 comment though, Korea had to have some sort of Martial Art because they did eventually fight off the Chinese and took control of their lands back in the day. Of course theres prob no records of what the martial art was or looked like.
iexcalibui2 2 months ago
@iexcalibui2
Korea didn't fight off China at all.
Please watch "Korea under the dominion of China"
>Of course theres prob no records
Everybody knows that.lol
That is what Uriginal is.
BuffonSarutobi 2 months ago
@BuffonSarutobi oh thats news to me. wheres can i find the video?
and just because there arent records doesnt mean it didnt exist. I'm not questioning your video, i agree with you. but many martial arts are created and disappear too, like chinese fighting systems prior to shaolin temple.
iexcalibui2 2 months ago
@iexcalibui2
Use the search box above.
Korea has some records like Muyedobo but there's no connected history since then. Martial arts for Koreans was only for kakyo testing, never had been enthusiastic. The reasons why Koreans today like martial arts are, one is Japanese effection, two is pop culture. Gumdo is Kendo 剣道, Dojan is Dojo 道場, Hapkido is Aikido 合気道, they all use Japanese words which means they didn't have them.
BuffonSarutobi 2 months ago
@BuffonSarutobi yea I know about the modern korean arts, thanks for the vids.
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Korean martial arts look all the same because they mix from same martial arts from Japan and China.
AmuroRayko 3 months ago
Ah proud to be English. Now your gutter mouth retorts are understandable.
jumpingjackfennessy 3 months ago
copy free? who would copy this shit? So you went to a library that had ONE book? Wow, extensive research. If you actually think any country in the world was only armed with bows, you are just too stupid to communicate with.
Calimantalkin 3 months ago
@Calimantalkin
This one is good too. Please check.
Korea and swordmanship
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
BuffonMusa 3 months ago 4
Fuckin crap china s jspan mongol and korean ,aster country
Christopher6849 3 months ago
Yaranaika ?
whitewerlet 3 months ago
I see so many fabrication of Korean martial arts. Their so called, traditional martial arts are mix of Chinese and Japanese martial arts. Just watch some Korean martial arts videos and you can see what I mean. Fighting by holding a Katana with both hands is seen only in Samurai fighting style. Warriors except Japanese hold a sword and a shield at battles. And technique of making Katana is only seen in Japan. China imported Katana from Japan. Korea used Chinese swords. not Japanese until recent.
1207daone 3 months ago 14
@1207daone
Um a mix of China and Japan... That's Basically what Korea is... retard.
dragomancer123 2 weeks ago
@dragomancer123
say that to any Korean face to face, and see how they react to that comment.
1207daone 2 weeks ago
Korean is shit !
tuanlongshb 3 months ago
Morons, LOL.
Goguryeomusa 3 months ago
China and korea is better than mongol and japan
Christopher6849 3 months ago
Korean armour and sword is diffrent from the moves and style from the japanese korean moves was most a looking a like to chinese while japanese moves and armourswa to vroad and squardy
Christopher6849 3 months ago
I agree with mr lerouge07
Christopher6849 3 months ago
Lol load of craps japan mongol and korea came from china from their whole culture geng khis khan is abarbarian
Christopher6849 3 months ago
MrLerouge07 3 months ago
lolz PUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAH
THE ONLY MARTIAL ART BOOK IN KOREA... HMMM
SO I GUESS BEK JE SSA UL AH BI AND SILLA HAWRANG AND GOGURYU JOEU SON IN IS ALL LEGEND HUH? HMMM.... I WONDER HOW THEY FOUGHT WITHOUT A MARTIAL ART CUZ THAT JUST SOUNDS RIDICULOUS
MrLerouge07 3 months ago
koreans are such a disgusting ppl, well i mean majority of them
yoiashi 3 months ago
wow nice
yoiashi 3 months ago
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South Korean shamelessly, WANT TO BE HAPPY JAPAN IMAGE, but based on lies and falsehood. CREATING A PROSPEROUS COUNTRY SHOULD NOT THE OTHER WITH DISQUALIFY libel. Even if I stay calm, because I know they are digging their own graves. PD. THANKS TO THESE VIDEOS ARE GIVEN TO KNOW THE WORLD POPULATION scoundrel GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS AND THE POPULATION OF SOUTH KOREA, EXCEPT FOR THE FEW GOOD South Korean HONORED AND HEART OF THIS WORLD.
kyokun0424 3 months ago
Funny how a nation with no swordsmen or spear men won the 1st imjin war, and chased the 'honourable' samurai back to their little island
AlexanderRobocop 4 months ago
@AlexanderRobocop
You want to know why? Because Korea called for help to Ming China and China sent huge military.
Did you read Imjin war part of Annals of Joseon?
Korean King said "We have no swordman"(1592) "Any sword art has not been succeeded from ancient time in our country."(1594)
If you want to see the actual text written in classical Chinese, visit my blog. The article title is "Korea and swordmanship"
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
And do you know why the Koreans made Turtle ship?
The Japanese way of naval battle was getting on enemy's ship and assault with swords.
But Turtle ship was "covered", the Japanese could not jump on the deck.
Which meant, the Koreans were not good at sword battle.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
@BuffonMusa Yer they werent as good as the Japanese at sword fighting, so they adapted and gave themselves the advantage. Look at Trafalgar, out numbered, the british fleet still won coz they had the advantege of better gunners and adapted to what was needed and changed tac-tics to utilise their superior gunnery thus destroying the french and spanish fleets. The Koreans did the same, they didnt fight like the Japanese wanted to coz they would loose so they fought like they wanted to and won
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
I also recommend you to watch "Kumdo Fraud - Bonguk Geom"
Not only Chinese but also Koreans described how the Japanese were good at sword battle.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
@BuffonMusa when your nation is invaded you throw everything you've got at your enemy, including your allied superpower. still my point is EVERYONE used swords, and spears, a king can say what ever he wants, but he had spear men and his officers would of had swords. Two quotes does NOT count as a legitimate proof of a nations military culture for thousands of years! If your point is that all Korean martial arts are fake, remember it only takes one family/village/line to keep it alive
AlexanderRobocop 4 months ago
@AlexanderRobocop
The Koreans used bows mainly.
And there was Hwacha, Koreans always boast it, don't they?
Just having sword didn't help when they were attacked by Japanese.
According to Annals of Joseon "The people were not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from the enemy only by archery."(1480)
Archery is the real Korean tradition. Koreans haven't copy Japanese archery Kyudo while they copied Kendo, Judo, Aikido, Karate, modern Ninjutsu.
Because they do have Archery tradition.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
@AlexanderRobocop
"Two quotes does NOT count"
You can't face it?
The annals of Joseon is the official Korean historical record, historians for Korean history always refer.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
@BuffonMusa What ever, nothing anyone says is ever going to change your mind, and im not going to debate with you, I dont have time to put in extensive research like you clearly do, im too busy actually studying martial arts. so while you try to prove to the world that all Koreans martial arts are 'fake' im putting every effort into Haidong Gumdo and Karate and trying to best mesh them t fill out each others gaps and compliment each other, so enjoy.
AlexanderRobocop 4 months ago
@AlexanderRobocop
What you gave me was only your "theory" .
Actually, the way Korea research history is like you, first they have a nationalistic theory and build up other theories to back-up the first theory.
But what we(history researchers from other countries) need is a slid evidence.
If you say Korea had sword art culture like what Japan had, did Korea have swordman like Musashi? Bokuden? Are there Ryuha scroll or menkyo papers? Japan has thousands of remains of evidence of sword arts.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
@AlexanderRobocop
Swordsmen were treated like star players in Japan, dojo were everywhere even wealthy farmers had private dojo.
The famous swordsmen in the end of Edo period, Kondo Isami and Hijikata Toshizo were born in farmer family.
Kondo was selected to be the successor of Tennen Rishin Ryu.
Watch my "Legendary swordsmen" videos.
Korea didn't have such a deep sword culture. You haven't read any primary sources, only believe nationalist propaganda.
Same as cult.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
@BuffonMusa You have no idea what I believe, the koreans can go around saying what they want, you can go around saying what you want, my point is haidong gumdo is great, it's a great martial art, the sword play is brilliant, the discipline is brilliant, its artistic, its dramatic, its damn well effective, and it hasn't been ritualised to the point of absolute monotony like almost every Japanese weapon martial art, you wouldn't know this because you're not a martial artist, you're just a sad boy
AlexanderRobocop 4 months ago
Respond to this video... the fact you have to go and troll every Korean martial art video and claim that the entire nation are 'fraudulent' is just sad. you may fancy you're self a historian, but you are far too opinionated, and poring your hate into youtube will not achieve anything. you may fancy yourself a martial artist but you can't see the value in anything which doesnt pay homage to the Japanese, your sole purpose is to spread hate...... that is not the martial way
AlexanderRobocop 4 months ago
@AlexanderRobocop
However I am not the only one since Korean nationalists have been deceiving people in many countries.
If you bring interesting historical records or some kind of primary source for your opinion, it's fun to discuss but you and all other Koreanoias never bring those.
They just post randomly without any proof.
One guy just posted Yi Sunshin movie as primary source.
You guys need education outside of Korea.
BuffonMusa 3 months ago
@BuffonMusa You kinda contradicted yourself a bit, saying korea copied japanese martial arts. Any sword art has not been succeeded from ancient time in our country."(1594) this applies to the Joseon dynasty, not modern day. Modern day equipment has enabled people to go further back in history and recover things that were lost. It has happened even here in England with celtic war fare and anglo saxon echniques, and guess what they use swords :O they must of copied the Japanese. Stop being racist
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
@sungwchoi82
Korea is grand? Tributary state to china for god knows how many centuries, enslaved by the japanese for almost 2 centuries. Now split in the middle by the Chinese & Americans. Only the poor pathetic koreans would think of themselves as grand. Mwahahaha....!!!
miang62 4 months ago
@sungwchoi82
No, I should thank you fucking koreans for being so shameless. Keep faking stories of korean history n culture. There's nothing grand abt korea, it's all in your own imagination. Let u know why ppl buy korean goods and go korea for holidays - becoz u guys are fucking cheap.
miang62 4 months ago 12
Yangban were not lazy. Some entered their government service. Samurai sort of lost their purpose after the Tokugawa regime was established because of period of peace was ushered in Japan. The concept of Bushido was codified and written down at the time eventhough the idea had existed. Some samurai set up kendo schools other entered goverment service and/or became bureacrats. Martial arts has a long history in Korea unfortunately some of it was lost.
redwhitedude 4 months ago
@redwhitedude
Somehow martial art didn't become a part of Korean culture.
There were some books, some guys recommended martial arts but it didn't go nowhere.
I've read many old Korean texts and my conclusion is Koreans preferred archery and fire arms rather than sword and spear.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
@redwhitedude
I recommend you to read Korea and her neighbors to know reality of Yangban.
BuffonMusa 4 months ago
This is nothing new ie. Koreans "stealing" another culture and claiming it to be their own. The oldest Korean martial arts and traditional medicine manuals were all writing in Han Chinese. So where do you think they originated from? These shameless Koreans recently claimed that dragon boat festival originated in Korea and had to withdraw their claims after getting screwed by China for their false claims.
miang62 4 months ago
@BuffonMusa
Why google your own biased shit?
iholc 4 months ago
Korean's "prototype" people: You can't say that all is only yours. It's not true.
Japanese "prototype" people: You can't say that all is only yours. It's not true.
I'm lucky to found honest pure Japanese martial arts, Korean and Chinese.
Please. Stop that useless war. You chose which side you are in. In war, or not. Just ignore taunts. And trust the honest. End. Btw: Funny song.
MulthybridGodKyrNair 4 months ago
Background of Japanese Karate. For a start its not actually japanese, it originated in Okinawa then came to japan during the annexation period of Okinawa. It was called Te meaning "hand" or "CHINESE hand" but it was changed to Karate to make it more Japanese sounding. Karate and Tae Kwon Do are very very very different, look at Kata and Taeguk. the patterns are completely different. Tae Kwon Do have a lot more kicks, which came from Taekkyon, NOT Karate.
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
Apparently this BuffonMusa wastes his time dedicating to Korea bashing.
redwhitedude 5 months ago 2
Korean culture=Nothing
\(^_^)/
jariworld 5 months ago
Go to 백제마을, and then you get knew how japaness develop at that time..
ssu1123 6 months ago
Korean is a crook. Try to steal Muay Thai and claim it is original to Korea Kyuktooki. watch?v=qflIr2oOpf4
sahapoom1975 6 months ago
@sahapoom1975
Where in that video does they say its korean? the company trying to sell the dvd say its in korea which it is but the guys training say its originally from Egypt :/ A hell of a lot of martial arts look the same because we have 2 arms and 2 legs, just like what Bruce Lee said. Just coz they look similar doesn't mean they are copied. you should research more stand up arts like sanshou and different forms of karate, they look pretty similar to each other, just wear different clothes
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface LoL They wear muay thai clothes but have no a single word to refering or crediting to muay thai. What a retart trying to confusing people then making mind set that korea also have this style of fighting that is kyuktooki. It's the same dirty way that korea do with judo aikido and karate.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@sahapoom1975 So what if one guy wears Thai shorts? i know MMA people who wear thai shorts, i know trickers that wear Thai shorts, hell i do Tae Kwon Do and wear Tapout shorts when im training at home. What people wear doesnt show who they are or what they do. That video, the guy says nothin about it coming from Korea. judo and karate? Karate came from Okinawa not Japan, Judo is the same as Ju-Jitsu except the guy who 'created' it couldnt be arsed teaching the strikes of Ju-Jitsu
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface Are you crazy? They're obviously practicing Muay Thai not only Thai short they even wear arm band dedicated to Thai tradition and all the move is Muay Thai. You may not know mma is stand for mixed martial art, so mma guys wear Thai short that because they practicing Muay Thai.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@sahapoom1975 I know that MMA stands for Mixed Martial Arts. Its Mixed Martial Arts, not every single MMA fighter does Muay Thai. Cung Le prime example
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface Can you tell me what the propose of that vdo about Korean people practicing Muay Thai and talking to the world that it originates from Egypt no saying a word about Muay Thai but Kyutooki? What does Kyutooki to do with Muay Thai?
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@sahapoom1975 That video was by turtle press to sell dvds about martial arts. They arnt practicing Muay Thai. They are practicing Kyuktooki. It may well have been influenced by Muay Thai. A lot of martial arts have been influenced by other martial arts and cultures like muay thai has from muay boran and other thai arts. Kyuktooki isnt Muay Thai its Kyuktooki
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface Bingo!!! you're confessing to the world that Korea're trying to copy Muay Thai by making VDO, Korean practicing Muay Thai vdo, and liar to the world that it's not Muay Thai it's Kyuktooki originates from Korea. Making a big liar, keep repeating until people believe is your Korean's motto. What's a shame.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
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@MrWotshisface Bingo!!! you're confessing to the world that Korea're trying to copy Muay Thai by making VDO, Korean practicing Muay Thai vdo, and liar to the world that it's not Muay Thai it's Kyuktooki originates from Korea. Making a big liar, keep repeating until people believe is your Korean's motto.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface By the way, it's not influenced by Muay Thai, it's completely copy of Muay Thai then change the name and claim it. I bet you're a kid, go to bed and have your parents talk to me.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@sahapoom1975 But you dont even practice any Martial arts, are you japanese by any chance? if you are and even if your not learn your own history and culture before criticizing others. Learn the really history of Korea then may be you might understand. For the record im not a kid, unlike some immature keyboard warriors on youtube.
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface I am Thai and I know my history. You're not a kid but you're so ignorant, you can see by your own eyes in the vdo, Korean wear Thai short with Thai script, Thai arm band and Muay Thai move, but you deny it besides you claim it's Kyuktooki. WTF is this.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@sahapoom1975 มันด่ากลับไม่ออกเลยสิน้อง ไอ่พวกเกาหลีก็เงี้ยเห็นแก่ได้ พอเอาเข้าจริงก็หลบทำออกนอกเรื่อง มันยังตอบไม่ได้เลยไอ้ที่ว่ามีแรงบันดาลใจมาจากมวยไทยเราทำไมถึงไม่เอ่ยชื่อมาเลย ดันบอกมวยนี้มาจากอียิป มันก็ตอบไม่ได้ แล้วยังทำหน้าด้านมาด่าน้องอีก ดีแต่จะหาเรื่องคนญี่ปุ่นแหละคนเกาหลีน่ะ ถึงจะรู้ก็เถอะว่าสมัยสงครามญี่ปุ่นทำกับเค้าไว้หนัก แต่ถ้ายังไม่รู้จักคิดว่าจะให้อภัยก็คือคนถ่อยดีๆนี่แหละ “สงครามคือสงคราม”อย่าพาลมั่วจนรุ่นนี้
MrAkiraSS 4 months ago
@sahapoom1975 Yer they wear thai shorts, but they also wear dobok, Korean clothing, that fact of what they wear doesnt really prove what 'style' it is. Maybe they wear thai shorts because it is more comfortable? either way, your original point isnt true, the people in that video do not say they created that MA and its traditional. All they say is that they are practicing it . Sorry if i have offended you, thats the last thing i wonna do, i was just making a valid point against your argument
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface They didn't wear Thai short and do an aerobic, they act like Muay Thai sparring and if they wear Thai short just for an aerobic whey the hell they have to wear Thai arm band also, it's nonsense. Keep liaring never confess, is that another your Korean motto.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface The problem is they didn't say they create that MA and it's tradition but they said they practicing Kyuktooki. What's the different if you say, I didn't stole you money but your money is in my pocket.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface You may not stole my money, you may borrowed me but I forgot. Likewise, Kyuktooki may not stole Muay Thai but you never say you borrow from Muay Thai. Give some credit to others don't make Korea less smart instead you will get more friends and support.
sahapoom1975 4 months ago
@sahapoom1975 what the hell are you on about? all i was saying is that it was wrong to say somthing that isnt true. Im not Korean im English so shut it we pwnd you all. I dont agree with Korean people claiming stuff as their's just as much as i dont agree with people putting shit on youtube that is just racist. the things i could say about thai people. Shut the hell up and grow up. Its the internet, who do you think actually cares? Other racists like you.
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface Are you an idiot or something? All I say is about my country tradition and I know it well but you, an English stupid, say it isn't true. Racist? trying to tell the truth is racist? protecting my own tradition is racist? catching the thief is racist? I don't think so. It's only you and me but you used the word "Thai people" who is the racist? The things I could say to an idiot like you is get licking your Korean boyband's ass, stop shiting on your pants and go to bed.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@sahapoom1975 You know what, fuck you. you just proved yourself as racist by calling me English stupid so stuff you thai barbarian. The only theif is the japanese for stealing Korea's artifacts during the annexation. Why would they want to steal thai culture? Korea have better food, traditions, clothing and martial arts. You are the one generalising Koreans by calling them 'the thief'. You are the racist one. Grow up and realise that cultures are INFLUENCED by other cutures, all over the world
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface First of all, fuck you idiot. you just proved yourself a Korean's asshole not English stupid. Your reply is sound like Korean pretending to be someone else. You don't even know the different between INFLUENCED and COPYING WTF. lol how short of your memory, we're talking about Muay Thai and Korean Kyuktooki dump ass.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@sahapoom1975 Why are you getting angry and annoyed? is it coz you know im right?
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface I don't angry but yes I annoyed your idiocy. You think you are right but where the hell have you been for months after my last debate that you cannot answer. Stop shiting on your own pants and stop pretending to be someone else. Have some dog and play with your mama kid.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@sahapoom1975 I am right, no where in that video you posted do they say they invented that martial art. thats what i was saying and you flew off the handle so shut it. Im not pretending to be some one else, im proud to be English. And months? it was a few weeks, i was enjoying my life away from youtube and idiot racist people. Go play with your lady boys and eat some cock with dude who has tits. Dirty greb
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface From the vdo description " This is a short documentary on the Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki, which is often seen in K-1 style fighting." and Korean in the vdo dressing and sparring like Muay Thai said this kind of martial art is originated from Egypt. Do you know what it mean, little brain?
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface I'll teach you some common sense lesson. Korean try to convincing people to believe that the striking style of fighting in K-1 is Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki that originated from Egypt not Muay Thai. Do you get it? It's the process of Copy, Change the name and Claim it.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface You said you enjoy your life away from YouTube and idiot racist people but up to now you've showed your attitude as an idiot racist people that you hate. Why do you still be here and be Korean balls that because you idiot and racist. I believe you must be Korean, maybe you're son of Korean that run a Japanese restaurant in England or better you are a gay partner of Korean gay in England.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@sahapoom1975 Im not going to argue with you any more. Your mind can not be changed. I am English and only English. I am proud of that am interested in what is going on in the East. I must say you have put me off Thailand now. Go fuck yourself and ladyboys. people like you give a bad name to the east and most people that i can speak for think that most people are racist against Korea for no reason. No Korean that i have met in life or internet has had anything bad to say. Go suck a 'girls' cock
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface Now you do it again, running away like a little girl, when you cannot argue to my reason. I gave you many rational argues but you ignored and bitching at me. You're the one who came back and abused me after a month of your hiding. Look at your own bitchy reply, be honest to yourself, are there any differents to the racist that you hate. If you think you're better than others that because you're a racist.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface Thank god that you'll not come to Thailand, there're many places on earth that welcome an idiot, bias, ignorant and racist people like you.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface I give you a chance. just answer me that the following massage taken from Korean Kyuktooki vdo is TRUE OR FAULT.
"This is a short documentary on the Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki, which is often seen in K-1 style fighting." and Korean in the vdo dressing and sparring like Muay Thai said this kind of martial art is originated from Egypt.
Just TRUE OR FAULT don't distract to another point.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@sahapoom1975 You are the one going away from the point. It may well be a rip off of Muay Thai. You said that the people in the video said they invented it. The people in the video do not say that they invented it. They say that Egyptian fighters used to wrap their hands and that is the nearest thing. Im not denying that it is a rip off of Muay Thai but that yuo said they said something when they didnt.
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface First, I never said they invented Muay Thai. Go back to read my earlier post then tell me I'm wrong. Second, in the sub of that vdo they said "The origin of the art is known as Egypt.", watch that vdo again then tell me i'm wrong. I never go away of my point but you even this time you keep distracting away of my question that you cannot answer.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface Go back to read my earlier post and watch that vdo again as I asked you in my last post then tell me I'm RIGHT OR WRONG no more distraction just RIGHT OR WRONG.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@sahapoom1975 fair enough i agree that these guys are trying to be like Muay Thai but Kyuktooki its self is just basically full contact rules. It can be argued that it is a martial art but it isnt really. Its just a Korean full contact rule set really. The name its self loosely translates as Competition Style Techniques. To say its a traditional martial art is wrong. I cba arguing with you anymore, im more mature than that and have better things to do.
MrWotshisface 3 months ago
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@MrWotshisface Finally we agree in some way. I don't hate Korean personally but I hate the dirty way they promote their stuff by claiming the striking style in K-1 is the Korean style of kickboxing called Kyuktooki. The worst thing that too much for me and all Thai is they said "The origin of the art is known as Egypt." while they obviously dressing and sparring Muay Thai. They can give credit to Egypt but why not to Thai?
sahapoom1975 3 months ago
@MrWotshisface It's show disrespect to Thai. If they give credit to Thai at the first place it'll be a different story. Thai will respect and support their activities in all ways. By the way I'm not a keyboard warrior nor racist. I'm mature and have better thing to do too. Nice to talk to you and hope you have a nice day and sorry for some bad thing.
sahapoom1975 3 months ago 16
@MrWotshisface
you made Korean look more and more stupid.
MrAkiraSS 4 months ago
@MrAkiraSS How?
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
Yaranaika song? WTF!?
FaLun29 6 months ago
<"The reason korean martial art books are missing is because japan burned <them all during the annexation period. They also murdered many korean martial art <masters in the process. "
I have never heard of it.
Present credible evidence.
kagejiro 6 months ago
oops, flowchart
BuffonMusa 6 months ago
Japan burned this and that blah blah blah.
Please stop making sorry excueses. It only makes you look worse.
Instead you should be proud of your Chosen Culture. You had some nice shit going on back then too. You are just diffrent from Japanese. Get it? just diffrent, not worse or better.
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JETKnockout 7 months ago
The reason korean martial art books are missing is because japan burned them all during the annexation period. They also murdered many korean martial art masters in the process. Only a small handful were able to escape to china or russia and that is why not all old traditional korean martial art are around anymore.
babotaechi 7 months ago
@babotaechi If Japanese army kill korean martial artist to the point of massacre, it means these martial artists aren't that good in combat then. Cos ummm,..... they got killed by "less skillful" Japanese military men.
rimidalvetarak 5 months ago
@rimidalvetarak So do you wonna go up against a person with a gun? It doesnt matter how much martial arts experience you have, you will lose against a gun, look at the meiji restoration. when the samurai where killed by people using rifles. Thought the Samurai were meant to be the elite of the elite
MrWotshisface 4 months ago
@MrWotshisface Good point. Martial art is about the art of surviving or self defence. Not limited to kicking or punching etc. Any level headed martial artists will run away from man with a gun or in fact adapting the gun themselves.
Being able to adapt to changing time and technology in order to survive is the "soul" so to speak , of martial art.
I believe the m. art should serve the practitioners, not vice cersa.
rimidalvetarak 4 months ago
@babotaechi
if russian took over korea, believe me that it would be bad, japan gave modernization to korea and protected you from china and russia
jin54363 4 months ago
@jin54363 jiralhane,fuck
cuwnrdlwkrlawjddlf 4 months ago
20 to 30 of them are Japanese. they're so fake.
shadowsa123 7 months ago