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  • the end of the experiment is at the start of the experiment. the fact that the individuals would allow themselves to be recorded doing such things just shows everything about our society. how most of the things they do on camera are for attention rather than real. just as status updates and comments on facebook are.

  • I wonder if you tubers have seen this movie.

  • "they were shitting in public...and people ate it up"

  • what is the music track appearing at the first 30 seconds?

  • @Leticiiia Le Tigre - Slideshow

  • gr8 movie!

  • @Trystera take the many casts of Survivor as an example. Not one of their members possessed the requisite features to be compared to an average person? They may not be members of the poor, who can't afford to sacrifice that time and still hope to survive the next month. But they're certainly not of a different breed to those who are 'secure in themselves' (which remains an obscure concept). The way they acted on Survivor can be representative of the way anybody would have acted on Survivor.

  • @Trystera attention-seeking? they were offered a free recreational and social banquet on condition that they let themselves be filmed. they weren't willing to give up everything, they were willing to give up a month of their privacy, and many of them expressed profound distaste for the cameras and interrogation tactics.

    You're basically leaving no room for the possibility that someone who submitted to being on camera wasn't an attention-seeking derelict.

  • LOVE IT!

  • I had to shut this film off after 20 minutes, Harris is just too much of a fucking narcissist for my taste.

  • this is one of the best movies Ive seen. it completely messed with my mind and I love it. Pretty shitty trailer though. I don't know why trailers have to tell the whole story, when giving much less will better the trailer and the viewing experience.

    trailers are supposed to intrigue and a really good trailer can easily be made out of this great movie.

  • Cool

  • Cool!!!!!!!!!!

  • I used to love Pseudo network!

    240 seconds of gaming!

  • 3:45

  • I wonder how people would react if they were to find out that they're being watched against their will???

    How important is everyone's privacy to them....ultimately? To me its a non-negotiable (Not really) issue and I hope it is as well to you all. Cherise it because it might not be around for much longer.

    GL.

  • JUST because it's fucked up makes it a bad movie.

  • Yeah, who is behind this?

    A culture had been created (which we have allowed) of narcissicists who don't give a crap that 1/2 the world's population lives on LESS than $2 a day...Now that's SHEEPLE you can herd and manipulate! We've proven we don't give a fuck about Life.

  • Its on Netflix. Crazy fucking Film!

  • I just watched this movie on Netflix. I loved it! At times I felt Josh had a hard time with the concept of reality as we know it but the social experiment was GREAT!! Beautiful Mind Josh, Beautiful Mind

  • This film somewhat "frightened" me at times

  • Nice trailer.

  • Pretentious bullshit.

  • What is the name of the song that starts 0,20 relly whant to know!? plzz someone

  • yeahh the attention over logic and love...

    thats when we will collapse i think

    if yu see the nations who are more advanced in that sort of "feeling" of being in a cage, watched and stuff are the ones that with the most happenings like usa and people killing each other for no reason..

    and like someone said the artist live in a kind of cage just see how many of them

    cant live like this and need to escape with drug or...

    yu know

  • we'll make great pets

  • Worst fucking movie ever!! that shit is fucked up!

  • @bakej33 Just because it's "fucked up" doesn't make it a bad movie :S

  • I am trying to reach Josh Harris, if anyone has contact info, thanks-

    (its for a project proposal fyi)

    jasonpfaff23@yahoo.com

  • this has NOTHING on The Cove.

  • the problem is that a lot of people use internet for crime..

  • Jesus! are we all chemically unbalanced!?!?

    why is that guy running around naked???

    somebody sedate him!

    lol he asks if he can read the paper, he doesnt ask to be left alone by the cat, to poop in peace and not be taped while he is doing that !

    rip maaaaaaaan, you are so crazzzzy, world!!!!

  • @anareaua He's running around naked most likely because he's just going along with the crowd and expectations. Not that everyone is running around naked, but everyone is acting wild and unpredictable. You know, we think we have all the control and rationale...I bet you believe your self-control and logic are above average..but did you know that more than 90% of people also think that?

    The truth is..we aren't.

    Our environment is very powerful, especially when we're unaware that it is.

  • Just finished watching this movie. I never knew there was a guy who saw it all coming. Brilliant film, I hope it does get an Oscar nom.

  • Josh "Luvy" Harris of Operator11.

  • best documentary ever

  • Just watched this tonight... Pretty good.

  • it's more Big Brother than 'the internet' to be honest .....the web communities operate in different ways.

  • A Home, something good to drink, good food, clean energy allows you to occupy space in this world.

    In public or not.

  • Crazy experiment!

  • What's the name of that Bowie song playing in the background? It's on the tip of my tongue and it's killing me.

  • important movie . Josh Harris predicted what would happen to our privacy ( or total lack of it) online. Look @ what Facebook & Google are doing with our data today...

  • @EDiscoveryMap Tell me. What do you think Google are doing?

  • @darren google is selling your information back to you in the form of advertisements.

  • watch this!

  • ha ha that only apply to idiots

  • fantastic movie there's a good copy at 'bigmovies4free' last time i checked! want to watch it again and again!

  • The internet is not 40 years old, people.

  • @jevridon no...its older

  • The video refers to modern internet usage. I think it's misleading to say "40th anniversary" when most references to the internet concern modern, public, commercial use of the medium - look up "Arpanet" on Wikipedia. The YouTube video, above, concerns the generalized public. Ironically, if you look up Josh Harris under the Wiki article I reference or under "Internet" on Wikipedia, the name "Josh Harris" won't appear.

  • @jevridon its cuz josh harris was a minor player who made a ton of money thanks to speculators and then blew it ...to call him a great pioneer is a bit of hyperbole

  • @brabon1 Well, that supports the idea that media, itself, can distort facts. It underscores the reasoning behind making clear distinctions in facts presented. Here, "internet" refers to the last 20 years or so. The name "Josh Harris" means poor judgement moreso than "pioneer". Swaying opinions and thoughts is malicious and misleading if using what you put best - hyperbole.

  • @jevridon ok...so the modern internet is about 20 years old

    and you are right...harris wasnt a pioneer, he was a good salesman who took other's ideas and inventions and at first marketed them well

    and then, because he had no fucking biz sense, decided to engage in all out partying and call it art...like i said, i did outside support for companies like his and i predicted the bust about 3 years before it happened, cuz none of these fucks had any clue

  • @jevridon (a little more) see, unlike the true tech and internet pioneers, like apple, yahoo and google, who all started out small and didnt blow their wads when investors came a running, i watched as companies spent tons on office space, toys and employees who were there for show (you would be amazed at how many hot receptionists and secs these guys had, and were paid very well)

    a little more to follow......

  • i met one of the true internet/streaming media pioneers waiting for a plane at lax

    guess what? he was a big shot in the porn industry...this was before josh or any of those jokers in ny were doing their shit

    he laid out for me his entire 10 years plan, and predicted the end of the video market and most adult clubs

    im not sure if he ended up making money, because tech had yet to meet his ideas....but they should make a movie about him

  • @jevridon you're right. now it's 41. As of 4 days ago.

  • Is the youth today so vapid that watching someone brush their teeth and urinate is entertainment? Really sad.

  • some1 died here:

  • Aaah, the 90's. Is this what they are going to write about us in the future history book? The crazy intraweb people? The pseudo social network culture?

    /applause

  • i did tech work for guys like josh, he is really nothing special.

    good salesman who was at the right place at the right time...for a short period of time

    the net has caught up with him and he is now trying to stay relevant....he should just take all his millions and enjoy the rest of his life

  • @brabon1 does he have millions? or is he broke?

  • LOL, Holy sensationalism much.

  • oh my god

    like a truman show?

    want. watch.

  • Want.

  • pseudo was my first job- a more sexist aweful work environment would be hard to imagine. This will be hard to watch.

  • Magpie Project gives you a chance to be in your own 'We live in public'

  • Last time I looked, CBS was going strong.

    Josh...not so much.....

  • So true.

  • Marshall McLuhan made similar predictions quite a bit earlier.

  • It reminds me of the Stanford prison experiment more than anything. As I see it, the problem isn't the Internet, or any other media. The problem is the people whose sense of identity is so fragile that they can't control themselves when there's a camera around.

    This isn't a question of "What happens when The Big Bad Internets take our privacy," but "What happens when we value attention more than logic or love?"

  • @Trystera I take it you've had a psychology class. When learning about social psychology, you should have remembered the fundamental attribution error.

    You attribute a negative quality to someones character and not the situation, which is reverse of what you would do for yourself.

    Sorry, but we are organisms that care instinctively about social acceptance and praise more than "logic or love". At some point, you have to come to terms that reality is not artistic, it's just the way it is.

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  • @Trystera I'm not so sure about that. Do you really think that Quiet was comprised of a sample set completely devoid of self-worth and solid identity?

    Is it more likely that cameras 'sucked the identity out of' all of these (randomly selected) persons, or that the identifiable removal of their privacy and freedom caused the distortion of their behavior.

    If you chose the first option, you should probably explain to everyone how a strong sense of identity is at all linked to controlling yourself

  • @PVPMETHODS The sample set here was "the set of people who would agree to live in conditions like this." So, yes. It's not that the cameras 'sucked the identity out of' anyone; those are your words. They were already attention-seeking and willing to give up everything else for this. The connection's not that abstruse: Almost by definition, someone who's secure in him/herself won't be as swayed by popular opinions or herd mentality, and will keep to their own standards of behavior and ethics.

  • @Trystera that is likely the most insightful thing ever written on youtube.

  • @Trystera It seems we are driven more by having attention than logic or love.

    Look at popstars now. Singularity is inevitable because we all want everyone to know us.

  • @puddiipuddii We all do? Even the introverts? Personally, fame sounds horrifying!

    Popstars are emblematic of the issue. The flip side of that coin is, "we want everyone to know us, without our having to know everyone." You can't forge a meaningful relationship with thousands of fans or followers - in fact, per the hypothesis of Dunbar's Number, our brains can scarcely understand our interrelationships when the number of people is higher than 230 at most. (cont.)

  • (cont.) So, beyond that number, people just become sorta... ciphers. You know they're people with the same kinds of needs and ideals as your best friend, but it's just hard to keep that in mind. To want everyone to know us, without knowing them -- to have attention from others without paying attention to them -- is just selfishness.

    I think some people are just being raised, lately, to aspire to Fame and Wealth, not Respect or Strong Character. It's not media to blame, but poor parenting.

  • @Trystera Attributing behavior solely to individuals' innate characteristics and not accounting for any social enviornment drasitically misreads the Stanford Prison Experiment. It's helpful to remember that in the SPE, there were no innate differences between 'wardens' or 'prisoners' yet their behavior diverged wildly from one another. Their roles (group identity) overpowered individual agency.

  • so he couldn't just break the camera?

    no of course fucking not

    and the people cant stop using facebook? yeah they damn can

    wtf is this

  • @FatKittensMedia

    alright. stop using youtube then. never use it ever again. ever.

    or google. or text messaging on your cell phone.

    do you REALLY think you can do it?

  • why aren't you stupid 2hamsters1couple

    So you are saying this because what, Google, Youtube ect collects data about you what you surf?

    So fckn what just erase the connection from you and the internet. So damn easy. So many ways. Google and Youtube doesn't collect much at all. They collect all that you give them and then what you search for and what videos you view.

    Not a lot, and then you can easily erase the line from your accounts to your computer. Just learn some fucking internet.

  • @FatKittensMedia Can you try saying that one more time, but in English?

  • It's not that we can't do it. Of course we can stop using these things.

    There is simply no reason not to. It is faster to look something up on the internet than to run to the library. I don't believe getting information quickly hurts anyone.

    It's just like anything else, say eating hamburgers. Of course we can stop eating them. Some people do. But if you enjoy it and its not harming anyone, what's the problem?

  • the whole doc. is amazing, we've a lot to think, we've sold our privacy already,

  • I need to see this movie.

  • muhuhuhu.. i will wait for everyone to live on the internets then i cans go outside and play in the suns! yey!

  • not all the lions and tigers are in zoos

    most of them are in the jungle

  • not all the lions and tigers are in the zoos or the jungle

    most of them are dead

  • le tigre!!! great song to use!!!! looks great wanna see it

  • This looks great will def watch the movie.

  • well, it is never too late to wake up, so why you are not doing it, go out side and do what you really want to do! Share the world to be the best, not OF the world but FOR the world!!!

  • He's trying to say that in the beginning we were free, just like the animals in the jungle were free. But with technology and the government we're bound to be in cages at a zoo.

  • big brother. your thoughts tracked and traced.

  • I DONT GET IT...

    what is he trying to say here?

  • Looking forward to seeing this!

    xoxo BK Crew

  • Great acting all the way ? It got the sundance filmfestivals award for best documentary. Isent it real ?

  • saw this. good, but sad.

  • anyone know where this is showing/ how i can watch it?

  • Wow! shitting and having sex in public...how weird will it goes....would you do that?

  • I watched it last Wednesday and it was incredible ...go for it people...go for it...do not miss it...

  • This guy's foresight is nothing short of remarkable. When/if this film opens in the Bay Area I am SO there!!!

  • its here in the london film festival!

  • Wow, as a documentry nut, i cant wait to get the opportunity to see this!

  • This is a film ten years ahead of its time about a man ten years ahead of his. I de-activated my Facebook page the day after I saw it, but really it's just my first step towards my own personal apple orchard.

  • @dancingbearfilms I feel that!

  • @dancingbearfilms You deactivated your Facebook because some nutjob thinks the internet is taking us over?

    MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

  • @Sneezlebob Actually, I deactivated my account because I didn't want to turn into a nutjob like him. I'm still off FB almost two years later. Couldn't be happier. There's nothing wrong with Facebook, like there's nothing wrong with most drugs. They're only bad when you abuse them. Facebook was an addiction for me when I was on it. I had to stop cold turkey. Actually, the movie isn't about a nutjob who thinks the internet is taking over... now I'm wasting my time on Youtube. Becuase I'm drunk.

  • @dancingbearfilms well don't u think it's bad that fb sells ur personal information?

  • I only had time to watch the first half minute, so--

    can I possibly get that song at the beginning? It's awesome.

  • I watched it all. Seems interesting ...

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  • That song in the beginning is called "Slideshow at Free University" and it's by Le Tigre

  • where can i download this movie?

  • We'll eventually do something like that, but for now we can't if we're to be considered for Oscar nomination. Stay tuned!

  • I rented this movie awhile ago. AWESOME movie.

  • @Dizzi800

    ah so its out on dvd now? thats good news

  • @gsxws6 Google "We Live in Public 2009 LiMITED DVDRip XviD-ViSiON" You can download it for free.

  • @gsxws6 iTunes.

  • like woah ... my life as a website ... i gotta see this ... i mean, i always joke and say 'if you go to ( fill in the blank ) dot com' ... that blank being whatever we're talking about right now, but this takes it to the extreme ... glad i didn't think of it first ;]

  • PBS seems to be feeding the "mean, scary world" effect (part of George Gerbner's cultivation theory that the more TV we consume, the more likely we are to be scared of the world around us).

  • I can haz my privacy back?

  • yes, it's a bit thought provoking. however, i and most people i know don't live in front of the camera nor do they wish to. alternatively, we are captured by cameras that we *are not aware of* much more often.

  • Just saw this and thought it was one of the best documentaries I have ever seen. It's a fascinating character study, a biting commentary on the history and future of social technology, and it was masterfully edited. Fast-paced, creative, thought-provoking.

  • what the hell did i just saw?

  • YuP! I wuZ there w/most of my pals! my bf @ the x & my bro (still) slept in the pods.. I shot amazing footage of the girlz w/ big guns in the basement! btw still have it..

    Josh/"Lovey" gave gr8 party! Thanks for the millenium rush, baby!xo

  • This movie will be showing at Burning Man, see the social media at Burning Man booth in the 3 oclock plaza for details. Wed night at 1AM and Friday night at 2:30AM. EErie similarities to Burning Man as well. This movie is a **must see** for any social media person or big social media Internet person.

  • looks like ego stroking, messiah complex, fear mongering/harvesting, psyops to me. Do yourselves a favour and buy a book instead.

    Stand up! say no to being portrayed like this. NO VACCINE, NO CHEMTRAILS, NO WARS NO BANKERS NO BIG PHARMA AND TURN THE TELEVISION OFF!

  • I saw the film today... excellent. And what a flashback for those of us who lived the dot-com era. Go see it when it hits theaters in October.

  • holy shit.

  • Nice work. keep it up. mean time come for social media marketing for esteembpo**com #LINK#

  • Where can you watch this online. Ive looked all over.

  • i'd sit on the toilet and read when i was a kid but i haven't done that since I left my teens!

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  • this species has amused itself to death

  • You all need to book flights to Alaska.

    Montana will do as well, or Wyoming, Colorado.....Once at these places you need to put your video cameras down, your cell phones, and lap tops. Book yourselves a two week adventure in the wilds. Even if you totally depend on creature comforts like toilets, comfortable beds, and all the other blah blah technology affords our society, DO AWAY WITH IT FOR A WHILE!

  • Why is it when guys take a shit they need reading material? Women just do their business & get the Hell outta there ASAP!

  • "Women" hmmm, are you speaking for all womankind?

  • Absolutely. I've never known any female that's needed reading material to initiate a bowel movement. This must come with age. I have 3 boys & none of them need to read to take a dump! Come to think of it, neither does my husband. How puzzling. I just don't get it.

  • Well speaking as a female, from a household of females, and friendship with females-men are NOT the only ones. However I wouldn't put as u have "have to have reading material to take a dump" more like, ah there's a book in the bathroom, hmm, I could sit here do my business&go, or I could sit here read a little to take my mind of things I'm doing, then go.I do agree that guys specifically take reading material in, brothers etc. (my dad&fiance never did) because they say "i'll be here a long time"

  • yeah... what's up with that? my other brothers will sit on a toilet likes it's a throne for seemingly hours reading newspapers...

  • It must be an inborn thing. My husband doesn't require reading material to take a dump, but a lot of men I've been around do, my Dad included. There must be some scientific study about this somewhere. If not, there should be. The government has got to know. It must be "classified."

  • Lol, yeah, there are worse scientific studies about. But I do not think it's a case of "needing" reading material, as "enjoyment" from reading material why they do an otherwise "unpleasant" thing in there (poo can hardly be called riveting, and just sitting there with the aim of depositing just seems a little primitive why not get some enjoyment (my brothers words not mine haha).

  • Reading material is essential when taking a dump.

  • yes this is where we are going unless we are already there...

  • someone finally has a clue...very impressed

  • Internet is a trap and we are the rats.

    But not only. We still build our bars. Internet is the trigger.

    Serious matter.

    We do live and public and we do wish solitud... that can be acchieved.

    There is a middle term. I do whatever I wan't, internet knows it, and I pretend I don't know internet knows...

    Again, the control of my life, and mine's, shall me mine.

    I hope I'm right.

    Thanks, anyway, for the advice.

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  • we are in a zoo...the higher powers are watching us....and their technology is nature itself

  • Wow. That would be scary to live like that. I would most definitely hate that. It looks like an interesting social experiment.

  • all day I have been thinking of the word psuedo, and here it is. Looks good.

  • anyone else get here form ashton's twitter?

  • ya i did

  • yes

  • yes

  • I did!

  • I got Demi's

  • yup! haha

  • It's sad , wtf are they just discovering the internet ? I've been using it for like 10 years

  • me too ;)

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  • it is evident that we all clicked the link that ashton put on his twitter status.