Touch wood never broke a tap using mill or battery drill.
Difference is when time costs money tap 6 holes M3 X 3/8" deep through 6082 took well over 8 mins each and several lockups by hand with cutting fluid. By drill 12 secs total for 83 off 100 mins!
So 6 off x 83 units saved a lot of time like 65 hrs.
Wouldnt risk it in the mill though, usually M5 and bigger.
My goodness lad, there is nothing wrong with power tapping but for the love of all things holey (hole-y.. that's a pun, son), use a cordless drill like a civilized person! Hardened steel taps are not meant to be beaten on by the likes of an impact wrench. Also, cheap 4 flute, actually any 4 flute, taps are not intended to be used in a power tool. They are for hand tapping where you can frequently reverse for chip breaking and clearance. Use a proper 2 flute for power tapping.
WD-40 for lube?? Nuts!! Also, you need to clean out the threads, turn so far, stop, reverse, this is the key to NOT breaking taps!! Using an impact on a tap, I guess it works for you, I'll never do it, I'll stick with the good ol' fashioned way, by hand. Plus I can keep it straight and square far better than a drill or impact. I like you idea, don't get me wrong, I'm just thinkin expense an safety here. Cheers.
I will agree that this is probably the worse case senario but it works.
I now use a spiral flute tap (Gun Taps) and tap magic. Still to this day I have not broken a single tap using an impact wrench. The impact applies no more force than a tapping arm.
Keeping a tap straight is childs play with a tap guide. If you use a impact or drill you dont have to secure the guide as it only requires one hand to do the tapping.
@Regnarrussell Just a couple of tap tips: Spiral 'point' A.K.A. gun taps 'shoot' the chip ahead of them (into the hole). Spiral 'flute' taps are the opposite and pull the chip out of the hole in the style of a drill bit. Since these types eject the chips as they cut, both types can have continuous motion. 'Hand' taps as used in your video collect chips between the flutes and need to be backed out to break the chip and/or clear the chips from the flutes.
@TsmnnDvl5 using WD-40 for cutting fluid is more common then you may think. I know machinists who love using it, and I have used it myself for flycutting. It stinks up the shop, though.
Thats great man. do you think if I use an electric impact wrench it would work as well? I Can't find cheap chinese butterfly drills here where I live... Maybe even a drill in hammer mode...
80/20 is not 6061, its 6105-T5 , which has a higher yield strength than 6061. WD40 is about the worst lube for tapping. In fact its really not a good lube at all. I does appear to work until youve used a real tapping lube like Tap Magic. Plain ole motor oil is a better option, and cheaper.
I wear gloves to keep my hand from absorbing the air tool oil, WD40 and all the other chemicals that I use. It also keeps my tools salt/ oil free from my hands.
What a bodge!
MSmifffy 4 months ago
Why don t you house your vice on the table? that way it will not move
SpecialNerfServices 4 months ago
yep! the American way........
cosast54 5 months ago
what kind of work do you do with the 80 20?
bjjindiana 6 months ago
Touch wood never broke a tap using mill or battery drill.
Difference is when time costs money tap 6 holes M3 X 3/8" deep through 6082 took well over 8 mins each and several lockups by hand with cutting fluid. By drill 12 secs total for 83 off 100 mins!
So 6 off x 83 units saved a lot of time like 65 hrs.
Wouldnt risk it in the mill though, usually M5 and bigger.
jhareng 7 months ago
I like your vise. Very robust!
valveman12 7 months ago
My goodness lad, there is nothing wrong with power tapping but for the love of all things holey (hole-y.. that's a pun, son), use a cordless drill like a civilized person! Hardened steel taps are not meant to be beaten on by the likes of an impact wrench. Also, cheap 4 flute, actually any 4 flute, taps are not intended to be used in a power tool. They are for hand tapping where you can frequently reverse for chip breaking and clearance. Use a proper 2 flute for power tapping.
PeteZ28 8 months ago
WD-40 for lube?? Nuts!! Also, you need to clean out the threads, turn so far, stop, reverse, this is the key to NOT breaking taps!! Using an impact on a tap, I guess it works for you, I'll never do it, I'll stick with the good ol' fashioned way, by hand. Plus I can keep it straight and square far better than a drill or impact. I like you idea, don't get me wrong, I'm just thinkin expense an safety here. Cheers.
TsmnnDvl5 9 months ago
@TsmnnDvl5
I will agree that this is probably the worse case senario but it works.
I now use a spiral flute tap (Gun Taps) and tap magic. Still to this day I have not broken a single tap using an impact wrench. The impact applies no more force than a tapping arm.
Keeping a tap straight is childs play with a tap guide. If you use a impact or drill you dont have to secure the guide as it only requires one hand to do the tapping.
Regnarrussell 9 months ago
@Regnarrussell Just a couple of tap tips: Spiral 'point' A.K.A. gun taps 'shoot' the chip ahead of them (into the hole). Spiral 'flute' taps are the opposite and pull the chip out of the hole in the style of a drill bit. Since these types eject the chips as they cut, both types can have continuous motion. 'Hand' taps as used in your video collect chips between the flutes and need to be backed out to break the chip and/or clear the chips from the flutes.
Simpsons36 9 months ago
@Regnarrussell
Really impressive, especially for production tapping wow!.
exanchorite 2 months ago
@TsmnnDvl5 using WD-40 for cutting fluid is more common then you may think. I know machinists who love using it, and I have used it myself for flycutting. It stinks up the shop, though.
causticblood 8 months ago
Thats great man. do you think if I use an electric impact wrench it would work as well? I Can't find cheap chinese butterfly drills here where I live... Maybe even a drill in hammer mode...
brenck 11 months ago
where can one buy a similar tap holder to air gun adaptor ?
topari01 11 months ago
I use sewing machine oil for tapping.
EMDSD40LocoDash2 11 months ago
I thouht this would be a guitar tapping lesson ha
prsguitars1678 1 year ago
I'll definably make one of thoose for me... Do you have to regulate pressure according to the tap you use? Because torque? What pressure ure using?
brenck 1 year ago
slllooooowwwwww dddooooowwwwwnnnnnnnnn.
CustomPCServices 1 year ago
It is a Kurt D675. Almost every tooling supply store.
Regnarrussell 1 year ago
Who sells that vice?
MrLeonard55 1 year ago
It's "ER WIN", not "I RIN" ... but nicely done otherwise!
rkward101 2 years ago
80/20 is not 6061, its 6105-T5 , which has a higher yield strength than 6061. WD40 is about the worst lube for tapping. In fact its really not a good lube at all. I does appear to work until youve used a real tapping lube like Tap Magic. Plain ole motor oil is a better option, and cheaper.
ArionRaine 2 years ago
Yeah its American Made!
Regnarrussell 2 years ago
do note that taps break pretty easy, and getting one out it nearly impossible...
dont forget to sink the holes afther you prolly did but its pretty importand
escafallen 2 years ago
The tap in the video had done over 100 tnuts and a lot of 80/20. I have broken taps in the past using a battery drill.
Regnarrussell 2 years ago
@Regnarrussell still sucks bigtime if they break huh :P?
escafallen 2 years ago
whats the glove for?
escafallen 2 years ago
I wear gloves to keep my hand from absorbing the air tool oil, WD40 and all the other chemicals that I use. It also keeps my tools salt/ oil free from my hands.
Regnarrussell 2 years ago