Check out the BUEL Ulysses Adventure! Twin 1200cc engine, same weight as 800GS, and at half the price. Forget about this bike it's top heavy and sucks in the dirt.
Mate, I dont know where you are getting your numbers from... The Ulysses in all of its forms weighs more than the GS8 and does NOT even come close to costing half as much unless you are talking about some used unit or run out model. The joke is that you put down the GS8s soft track ability and yet you recommend the Buell with its road tyres - 17 inch front and back... I am just glad you are joking!
Who told you that Buels have road tires, they have dual purpose tires. Also, everything that the GS8 does the Buel does unless you're a Dakar racer. Finally, since Buel closed their models are now cheap, and to add insult to injury I think it's even better than the GS1200!
Ah, so you are serious about the Buell. Lets ignore the correct spelling of Buell for now... The Buell is fitted with 120/70-17 front and 180/5517 back, those are not off-road tyres in anyones book (The FZ1 fits the same sizes lol) Tread pattern is irrelevant, being easy to change, however good knobbies are few between for the 180. Sure, you can go off road on those tyres but only so much as I can go off-road on my old FZ1. You will probably kill yourself traveling at speed in sand or mud.
If you want to go for a ride on good unsealed roads, the Buell will be fine, any Buell and so will any road bike (Even cruisers and big touring bikes are fine if you keep your head about you and watch out for any helpful ABS trying to kill you in steep descents). But if you want to get off the beaten track you will inevitably encounter sand, mud or other soft surfaces and these will put a rather instant halt to all but the most skilled and determined of riders on unsuitable bikes.
Now, the only thing that the Buell has over an FZ1 off-road is a few inches of clearance and a thumb of travel, anyone will tell you that those two things are great but they wont help you much except for crossing solid obstacles. Its the geometry of the bike (a big one being front tyre specs) that dictates how it will handle in the bulk of off-road situations and the Buell XB12X Ulysses has the geometry of a road bike so it will ride like a road bike and crash like a road bike.
The only advantage to being on the XB12X over the XB12S off-road is that you wont mash the pipe as often when bottoming out (which you will still do often) and its a softer ride on the corrugations. The GS12 is somewhere in between the GS8 and the 12X in design. Dont get me wrong, the Ulysses is a handsome bike, I have eyed one off numerous times but its not worth comparing it to the GS8 or GS12 as they are a separate class. The 12X is my kind of road bike.
Sorry, about the spelling, you're correct it's Buell. However, most people who are considering the G800 are comparing it to the f650g which has front and back tires 17" in size and ridres commented on how they're similar on normal offroad conditions.
I came from a 640 adv, and when test rode f650gs and read in the reviews that the power of the 650 is comparable to the 800 i was very disappointed. This is where the Buell came in the picture offering power and enough clearance for road bumps and the occasional off-road rides. Maybe you're braver than me in the soft stuff, but a lighter bike than the 800 is more enjoyable and safer. Best regards
You are right the F800GS is still a absolute handful in the soft stuff, its not easy on anything on two wheels. I am a big guy and I find that the biggest bike I find comfortable with in the sand is an XR650R which is a great deal lighter than the F650GS (old or new) and a bit lighter than your old 640 Adv. The power difference between the GS8 and the GS65 twin is almost not noticeable unless you are really pushing it. But then again the power difference between the GS8 and the 12X is even less
I selected the GS12 over the GS8 or the 990Adv for the same reason you prefer the 12X however I recognise that I have made a compromise in terms of off-road ability. Knowing now why you like the 12X, I agree with you. If I were looking for a bike to mostly use on road and I were willing to take it real easy in the soft stuff, I would go the 12X over the GS8, especially due to price. Your 12X will take you anywhere the GS12 can go, just take care mate.
shitty language, English subtitles would be great.
PlexusMusic 9 months ago
Puts some knobbies on that thing before you play in the sand.
larrytx01 1 year ago
Check out the BUEL Ulysses Adventure! Twin 1200cc engine, same weight as 800GS, and at half the price. Forget about this bike it's top heavy and sucks in the dirt.
northpaw80 2 years ago
Mate, I dont know where you are getting your numbers from... The Ulysses in all of its forms weighs more than the GS8 and does NOT even come close to costing half as much unless you are talking about some used unit or run out model. The joke is that you put down the GS8s soft track ability and yet you recommend the Buell with its road tyres - 17 inch front and back... I am just glad you are joking!
Pwn00b 2 years ago
Who told you that Buels have road tires, they have dual purpose tires. Also, everything that the GS8 does the Buel does unless you're a Dakar racer. Finally, since Buel closed their models are now cheap, and to add insult to injury I think it's even better than the GS1200!
northpaw80 2 years ago
Also, the Dry weight for GS800=185Kg, while the Ulysses Buell=193Kg. I was Mad about hte GS but I saw the buell and I was converted! Please reply!
northpaw80 2 years ago
Ah, so you are serious about the Buell. Lets ignore the correct spelling of Buell for now... The Buell is fitted with 120/70-17 front and 180/5517 back, those are not off-road tyres in anyones book (The FZ1 fits the same sizes lol) Tread pattern is irrelevant, being easy to change, however good knobbies are few between for the 180. Sure, you can go off road on those tyres but only so much as I can go off-road on my old FZ1. You will probably kill yourself traveling at speed in sand or mud.
Pwn00b 2 years ago
If you want to go for a ride on good unsealed roads, the Buell will be fine, any Buell and so will any road bike (Even cruisers and big touring bikes are fine if you keep your head about you and watch out for any helpful ABS trying to kill you in steep descents). But if you want to get off the beaten track you will inevitably encounter sand, mud or other soft surfaces and these will put a rather instant halt to all but the most skilled and determined of riders on unsuitable bikes.
Pwn00b 2 years ago
Now, the only thing that the Buell has over an FZ1 off-road is a few inches of clearance and a thumb of travel, anyone will tell you that those two things are great but they wont help you much except for crossing solid obstacles. Its the geometry of the bike (a big one being front tyre specs) that dictates how it will handle in the bulk of off-road situations and the Buell XB12X Ulysses has the geometry of a road bike so it will ride like a road bike and crash like a road bike.
Pwn00b 2 years ago
The only advantage to being on the XB12X over the XB12S off-road is that you wont mash the pipe as often when bottoming out (which you will still do often) and its a softer ride on the corrugations. The GS12 is somewhere in between the GS8 and the 12X in design. Dont get me wrong, the Ulysses is a handsome bike, I have eyed one off numerous times but its not worth comparing it to the GS8 or GS12 as they are a separate class. The 12X is my kind of road bike.
Pwn00b 2 years ago
Sorry, about the spelling, you're correct it's Buell. However, most people who are considering the G800 are comparing it to the f650g which has front and back tires 17" in size and ridres commented on how they're similar on normal offroad conditions.
northpaw80 2 years ago
I came from a 640 adv, and when test rode f650gs and read in the reviews that the power of the 650 is comparable to the 800 i was very disappointed. This is where the Buell came in the picture offering power and enough clearance for road bumps and the occasional off-road rides. Maybe you're braver than me in the soft stuff, but a lighter bike than the 800 is more enjoyable and safer. Best regards
northpaw80 2 years ago
You are right the F800GS is still a absolute handful in the soft stuff, its not easy on anything on two wheels. I am a big guy and I find that the biggest bike I find comfortable with in the sand is an XR650R which is a great deal lighter than the F650GS (old or new) and a bit lighter than your old 640 Adv. The power difference between the GS8 and the GS65 twin is almost not noticeable unless you are really pushing it. But then again the power difference between the GS8 and the 12X is even less
Pwn00b 2 years ago
I selected the GS12 over the GS8 or the 990Adv for the same reason you prefer the 12X however I recognise that I have made a compromise in terms of off-road ability. Knowing now why you like the 12X, I agree with you. If I were looking for a bike to mostly use on road and I were willing to take it real easy in the soft stuff, I would go the 12X over the GS8, especially due to price. Your 12X will take you anywhere the GS12 can go, just take care mate.
Pwn00b 2 years ago
...too me doesn't look like Maurizio is having fun on a 200kg bike
locopazzo 2 years ago 5
I have test ridden this bike so anyone who wants some feedback on it just send me a message
simon44 2 years ago
La mia prossima motazza sarà questa!
villevalo822007 2 years ago
Buen Video!!! gracias!! desde Argentina
serguti 3 years ago
Wish this had English subtitles, or that I could understand the language being spoken.
The beach scene looked very fun, and the background music was very nice.
MRSketch09 3 years ago 3