worldly music, christian blasphemous t-shirt, rapin songs of solomon on tv shows , harsh language , conectin with the culture ... man you kiddin me i need to add that to the gospel in order to draw the elect in the church... i tought the gospel was THE POWER to save i tought that was IN the gospel. The first fear of the early church was that non-christian came to the church for the bad reason (only the miracles) ...today we are tryin to insert unbeliever in the church what a MESS...
Moreover, 1 Co. 9 has nothing to do with contextualizing the gospel, although it is very often used to justify such a thing.
Paul is talking about his rights as an apostle, and when he says that he became "all things to all men" he is talking about he relinquished his freedom to the law, even though when he was free to the law: "Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible" (1 Co. 9:19). HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT CONTEXTUALIZE THE MESSAGE.
Mark Driskoll, don't be deceitful, you are confusing people. In the examples which you gave, the cultural contextualizing was never related to the message, so don't use them to justify such undertaking. It's obvious that it doesn't matter the clothes we wear (unless if it is sensual) or the language we speak. But it does matter the message we preach, it never must be changed to please people or to make the gospel of Jesus Christ more "attractive" in world's eyes.
i don't think that's what driscol's saying. in preaching, mars hill (where driscol is a preaching pastor) is probably one of the fewer congregations that are strict in biblical theology. given nothing is perfect, but they contextualize the bible in a way that is faithful to the given text (the bible) and never "changed to please people" to make "attractive in the worlds eyes". believe it or not, mars hill is probably one of the few bible saturated, Jesus loving church's out there.
Mark Driscoll his giving HIS interpretation - its not the only one. His attitide to women is a concern.......and men evidently have to hunt drive a pick up and fight each other? He's an intelligent guy but comes over as biggoted
This dude is right on.If everyone agreed with him...I would question his motives. To you that disagree with him...back it up with scripture not opinion. And learn some church history before you shoot you text off. God bless you.
Liberals want to destroy (fashionably and for profit if they can manage it); conservatives want to be respectable and fashionable. Meanwhile we're being 'entertained' to death. We need something else...and it isn't communism. Tradition, common sense, wisdom...for a start. 1st Corinthians 11:14
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worldly music, christian blasphemous t-shirt, rapin songs of solomon on tv shows , harsh language , conectin with the culture ... man you kiddin me i need to add that to the gospel in order to draw the elect in the church... i tought the gospel was THE POWER to save i tought that was IN the gospel. The first fear of the early church was that non-christian came to the church for the bad reason (only the miracles) ...today we are tryin to insert unbeliever in the church what a MESS...
timotheeforest 3 weeks ago
Totally agree with this guy!
AndrewBarria20 10 months ago
Moreover, 1 Co. 9 has nothing to do with contextualizing the gospel, although it is very often used to justify such a thing.
Paul is talking about his rights as an apostle, and when he says that he became "all things to all men" he is talking about he relinquished his freedom to the law, even though when he was free to the law: "Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible" (1 Co. 9:19). HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT CONTEXTUALIZE THE MESSAGE.
AlexFigueroa 2 years ago
Mark Driskoll, don't be deceitful, you are confusing people. In the examples which you gave, the cultural contextualizing was never related to the message, so don't use them to justify such undertaking. It's obvious that it doesn't matter the clothes we wear (unless if it is sensual) or the language we speak. But it does matter the message we preach, it never must be changed to please people or to make the gospel of Jesus Christ more "attractive" in world's eyes.
AlexFigueroa 2 years ago
i don't think that's what driscol's saying. in preaching, mars hill (where driscol is a preaching pastor) is probably one of the fewer congregations that are strict in biblical theology. given nothing is perfect, but they contextualize the bible in a way that is faithful to the given text (the bible) and never "changed to please people" to make "attractive in the worlds eyes". believe it or not, mars hill is probably one of the few bible saturated, Jesus loving church's out there.
emmanuelibus 2 years ago
You missed the point dude!
itisasis 2 years ago
Mark Driscoll his giving HIS interpretation - its not the only one. His attitide to women is a concern.......and men evidently have to hunt drive a pick up and fight each other? He's an intelligent guy but comes over as biggoted
Brentzzxx 3 years ago
This dude is right on.If everyone agreed with him...I would question his motives. To you that disagree with him...back it up with scripture not opinion. And learn some church history before you shoot you text off. God bless you.
Dantana1 4 years ago 2
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This guy is bad news.
blueblue1891 4 years ago
Dear blueblue1891, why excactly do you think so? What is it, that you don't agree with here?
PerOleLind 4 years ago
Why is this guy bad news?
GregShuttleworth 3 years ago
Liberals want to destroy (fashionably and for profit if they can manage it); conservatives want to be respectable and fashionable. Meanwhile we're being 'entertained' to death. We need something else...and it isn't communism. Tradition, common sense, wisdom...for a start. 1st Corinthians 11:14
bwsmith7 4 years ago
This is great...I agree with him 100%
lvillalobos 4 years ago 5
Very insightful and edifying!
jmdChiRho 4 years ago 2