Translantic! All your bogus peer reviewed studies are paid for and done by Big Pharma. The fox guarding the chicken house. Just like there will never be a cure for cancer; its already there. Can't profit patent food or a natural substance. Dr Andrew Mouldens site, google it. Correct your denial and foolish ignorance! Children are dying and being harmed by vaccines in mass numbers! Paul "For Profit" Offit, is full of crap! Vaccines did not wipe out any disease, its all misinformation and lies
Transatlantic and Bagitol47 work for pharmaceutical companies, you'll see them arguing thier invalid points under countless videos. When would they have the time to do this? They're either mentally disabled themselves or are getting paid to troll around the internet. They don't present any independent studdies all are tainted with ties to Big Pharma- look at Gary Null's studdies, he is TRULY independent.
Vaccines DO kill. It's right on their package insert. When the vaccine program was initiated, parents once had to sign a waiver that in part said it can cause PERMANENT BRAINDAMAGE AND DEATH.
Autism is permanent braindamage and vaccines HAVE killed people, it's one of it's many side effects.Even the CDC says it can cause DEATH. Even the CDC admits some people are allergic to them and can DIE though they never even test for allergies. Why? Call it gross neglegence.
kill? who? name one death? come on, i dare you. Cars also kill, it's right there at the tv. It happens everyday! and eating? wow, that kills thousands per year! hehe
DOESN'T CAUSE ANY DAMAGE. DEATH COMES FROM DISEASE.
Some children with autism do recover a significantly to a more "regular" level.
Do you know what the CDC doesn't need to tell?
Diseases kill. Vaccines prevent such deaths. End of.
Hepatitis B is transmitted through "contact" as much as HIV is transmitted through "contact". Same mode of transmission, darling.
Please figure out where you're going with your arguments.
I had a feeling they are teaching healthcare workers these days that Hep B can be transmitted through casual contact. It's scary when the healthcare workers are becoming purposely retarded.
The retarded here, is a stupid dumb woman that keeps providing all the reasons that the educational system keeps letting losers run rampage. You are total ignorant little person and you come here shouting stupidity.
hey; loser. vertical transmission ALONE is a reason to give HepB vaccine. try another.
when you really show to me that you have any idea what immunology or a vaccine is do come back. until then you are simply: dumb.
Mary, tranny has been voted as Shill of the year for Youtube, as soon as he gets caught for a felon or something serious for his karma, I'm sure he will log back in as another alias and continue calling people names who don't agree with him.
You're a liar. I find it hard to believe that all the old people in your country have received childhood vaccines.
Does your country require the same shots as the USA does. Becuase I will tell you right now for a fucking fact that over half the population of my country have not received any bullshit "childhood disease" HEP B sexually transmitted disease--that the kids since the 70's have.
What are you talking about general "health" WTF does that have to do with said illnesses vaccines are for?
the vaccine that old people get more from the childhood program is the tetanus, pneumococcus and tuberculosis.
My country doesn't have 2 or 3 of your childhood program. Because for example the rotavirus strain here is very weak.
HepB may be transmitted by contact or vertical transmission. It's not just sexually transmitted. Its because people haven't all received the HepB that many viral hepatitis stil happen in older ages.
The CDC and corresponding national organisations are carefully observing the failure rate which may be high compared with other modern vaccines - large outbreaks of chickenpox having occurred at schools which required their children to be vaccinated.[18][19][20][21][22]
that CDC post was about comparison between older vaccines and new ones....
"modern vaccines" are much more effective.
That post supports immunizations. you didn't compare with schools with no immunizations. Try do that. Use an african school with no immunization and see how big is the problem. And do try see theri rates of postherpetic neuroalgia compared to the US. hint: the difference is HUGE. immunizations are effective.
What the fuck are you talking about herd immunity. DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY WORDS: NONE OF THE BOOMER GENERATION AND NONE OF THE WWII GENERATION HAVE HAD THE VACCINES THAT CHILDREN FROM THE 70'S OBTAINED UPON IMPLEMENTATION.
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOUR COMPREHENSION SKILLS?
WHAT FUCKING HERD IMMUNITY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION WHO HAVE EVER RECIEVED THESE VACCINES.
Vaccines exist for more than 100 years. The polio mass vaccinations programs were around the 50s.... so you don't need to shout.
The population of the US in their majority is vaccinated. when compared to other countries. Herd immunity is around 92-95% in the US. I am talking about each year of children that are born.
you can get the definition of herd immunity (not immunization, thats the process) in the web, dictionary or encyclopedia.
lol, you can think whatever. Just go to my country health departmenet website, there's the weekly schedule for you to receive any vaccine you want of the program for free. the data of the age of receivers is all there.
Some vaccinated children have been found to lose their protective antibody in as little as five to eight years.[16]
Chaves SS, Gargiullo P, Zhang JX, et al. (March 2007). "Loss of vaccine-induced immunity to varicella over time". N. Engl. J. Med. 356 (11): 11219. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa064040. PMID 17360990.
with herd immunity, Even if the vaccine doesn't provide immunity for more than 5 to 8 years. The disease is erradicated. That is the importance of us all being immunized. Herd immunity protects us all.
Plus in the paper the "some" were 11000 in the middle of 350000. sure its better than 90% of them getting varicela. that papers supports immunizations and another dose later in life.
Half of the population of mine and yours received vaccines.
My population actually complies more, that's why we are better than yours in terms of health care also. it goes as high as 98%-99% per year and over 65 years of age close to 60% have taken ALL the vaccines they missed when they were young. and over 70% take the flu shot everyear.
the reason there isn't whooping cough outbreaks its because: they survived when they were children and now are immune or not, but herd immunity protects them
Oh bullshit, as far as your narrow world view goes: the only several diseases children are vaccinated against were making their rounds amongst all of the people aged 40 and over,
including whooping cough, sexually transmitted Hep B, diptheria, TB. What a crock of shit. NOBODY IN MY FAMILY EVER GOT ANY OF THOSE DISEASES AND THEY WERE NEVER VACCINATED.
But my mother DID have a reaction to the smallpox vaccine at 6 years old, so severe, she was running a 106 fever for 3 days and almost died!
lol...you clearly don't even know the epidemiology of the diseases... so don't even try start going in a rant about epidemics without anything to back you up.
Your little story about your family is anedoctal. Just go to the epidemiological data and see the numbers of people who used to die from diphteria, TB, hepB and whooping cough. The reason you don't hear about it now its because: VACCINES!!! you dumb little person.
2nd) whooping cough is more serious in young children. an adult may have whooping cough and survive, be a carrier and then pass to children. So let's keep the children protected, shall we.
Bullshit. Why does a child have to be vaccinated against Hep B , a SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE. Doctors and healthcare workers are liars. They don't offer the information to parents and the parents are so fucking stupid, which healthcare snakes are c ounting on, that they don't even know that their baby is getting immunized for a fucking sexually transmitted disease.
You are saying Hep B offers a gauranteed lifetime immunity? Sources please.
I already told you TWICE why a child need to be vaccinated against HepB. 1) HepB can be transmited by contact 2) HepB can be transmitted mother to child during partum.
I am offering information to you, you dumb loser. I am taking the time for it. But you are proof enough of a STUPID parent.
what i say is that vaccines provide the same chances of immune memory as natural process. with the advantage that you don't get the consequences of disease.
HepB foundation, you again provided anedocatl claims. And no studies. no support.
"not transmitted casually" is quite a claim... well.. we can say there is no evidence that HepB is not transmitted in significant casual contacts. and that would be right.
"bodily fluids" include saliva. Not blood. That's a method of transmission. you keep providing all the reason to vaccinate against HepB. Thanks, "darling"
Petersen NJ, Barrett DH, Bond WW, Berquist KR, Favero MS, Bender TR, Maynard JE (1976). "Hepatitis B surface antigen in saliva, impetiginous lesions, and the environment in two remote Alaskan villages". Appl. Environ. Microbiol. 32 (4): 572574.
Hep B can be transmitted by contact alone. Its written in any Microbiology book. Use mine: Murray, medical microbiology
you the one who needs some teaching. You are dumb and ignorant.
HepB virus doesn't confer life long immunity naturally or not? lol... in fact it can provide liftime immunity. The point in the vaccines is to avoid disease you idiot. If you are immunized the virus can't enter the cells!!!!
vertical transmission doesn't need blood contact you moron.
by contact? What contact? That's like saying children are at the same risk for HIV. Where are the childhood HIV outbreaks?
It's a fucking sexually transmitted disease. DId you get yours? All the vaccines you must have had explains your mental block and ability to easily become brainwashed. Call it braindamage.
HIV doesn't last as long as the HepB virus in the open environment. Comparing two different species of virus, that are not even close in terms of comparison... is quite a huge mistake to do... just a quick important factor: HepB is a double stranded DNA virus and HIV is a RNA virus. that is a huge difference.
plus HIV is not just a sexually transmitted disease. i did get all the three jabs of the HepB vaccine.
want me to tape me gettting the H1N1 vax? i just did one of such vax vids btw.
They are the same modes of transmission with the same risk categories.Go to the CDC and figure it out for yourself. Paste what they say back on here on how you get it and who's at risk.but
I know you are purposely trying to frustrate the argument. It's not just sexually transmitted? Golly gee, can you get Hep B through a blood transfusion too?
Vaccines KILL. They have a legacy of it
Yes. I would like you to tape getting your h1n1 engineered bio weaponized eugenics shot, baaa! baaa! baaa!!
Well, vaccines don't kill and i already put you the challenge to name one death caused by immunizations in the last 30 years. you keep not presenting any. you are LYING!
If i tape it would you confess that i am right?
plus, that "weaponized eugenics" was another of you exposing youself as the tin foil conspiracy hat delusional fool that you are.
I presented already countless peer-reviewed scientific papers. I take the time to explain you why lay people like yourself are wrong and to clarefy doubts about the papers. nevertheless all of you, ignorant antivaxpeople, come here and present nothing but nonsense.
grow up! you have no idea about basic sciences. So, how the heck can you even present a case about a science that has been proven necessary for more than 200 years of history? get real!
LOl...I can't believe you are trying to say vaccines provide lifetime immunity, is that what you think based on your own crap logic or is that something that they are teaching you now?
I think you know that pregnats do serologic tests to verify if they are immune to a set of bacteria, virus and parasites? well, go look up which ones they are.
You'll find there your proof.
Do you know what is a fat lie? is you saying that you get immunity for life without using vaccines. its a total exposure of ignorance.
Why do the healthcare workers themselves say that people who are already vaccinated are 'non immune", look up the studies yourself of outbreaks, even children that were immunized still got it~! the vaccines don't work, that's proof!!!! I got the MMR in childhood and I was "NON IMMUNE" when tested 8 years ago.
People who are vaccinated are immunized. Hence the Immunization program.
Outbrakes and so on, keep being way way lower than if people were not immunized. Preventive care is not a cure, its prevention, its a method to reduce chances of illness. Proof that vaccines work is that outbrakes in vaccinated countries are in the dozens, while in unvaccinated countries are by the thousands and hundreds die!!!!
You may get another MMR boost. And lucky you: herd immunity is high
In populations with no vaccination for measles the rate of death would be 1 in 4,000 . Compared to the 1 in 6 children with signs of vaccine damage , it is much safer to not vaccinate .
Serious allergic reaction (less than 1 out of a million doses) Several other severe problems have been reported after DTaP vaccine. These include: * Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness * Permanent brain damage.
I know. Less than 1 out of a milion cases. That is a very small number compared to what would happen if we let measles run rampage.
Do you know the number of deaths calculated to happen if we suddently stopped giving all the vaccines? in just 3 years: 2,7 million deaths in the US alone. Don't you think that is scary? for me it is.
get a brain moron. your antiscience only scares the ignorants.
Zero? really? 0? You actually believe that? Seriously. You are either being purposefully intellectually dishonest to confuse the debate, or you are totally brainwashed by the modern medicine dogma, either way, you'll make a great drug pusher for big Pharma after you go through your training. Does the government pay for your college in you country or will you leave college financially ruined like in America?
Dr. Bernadine Healey has seen the connection between vaccine and Autism . As former head of the National Institute of Health , her credentials cannot match up with a self proclaimed "med student " on the internet . Healy said the government is simply uninterested in studying why unvaccinated children have lees incidence of Autism and ADHD . She has begun speaking out against the blind claims of "vaccines are safe " .
I love that translantic poses as a medical student , but he can't spell or use proper grammar . I have looked at some of his posts and they are ridiculous . He claims the vaccines are safer than the manufacturers themselves . What medical school is it where you have 10-12 hours a day to post on youtube videos ? The guy is clearly a liar and a joke .
There is a genetic link to Autism , in the same way that getting punched in the nose causes it to gush blood . If I punch you in the nose it will bleed , if you have weaker genetics that cause say thiner bone structure , your nose will break and bleed more . Vaccines damage every single child who gets one , th extent of that damage is somewhat affected by genetics . They have been proven to lower a childs IQ . How is that not damaging ?
Well , this may not be scientific , but you were vaccinated and have shown yourself to be to be very stupid . You are such a dicksucker , why don't you get a job instead of commenting on youtube videos above your comprehension level .
more insults... you were right: you were not "scientific". Your post didn't provide any proof that i am "stupid". Actually it showed that you the stupid moron here. plus it was a total lack of argumentation...
go read some papers i have on my profile. What bothers you, is that i am right. There is no link between vaccines and autism.
translantic. I hope you don't have any children. Seriously. You don't know how to protect them. You have no mind of your own and ascribe to the dogma of the day.... you're akin to one of those ancient assholes who would sacrifice their children gladly to molak if the high priests of the day told you to for fear of being called a heretic.
What are you? A pinkie commy bastard telling people they need to seek psychiatric help at the USSR style government reeducation centers if they question the establishment?
WTF are you talking about? Do you know? Why don't you try to refute the claims instead of grasping for your lazy minded fall back "that's a conspiracy theory"!!
LOL/ What's a conspiracy theory? That Bayer infected children with AIDS? That vaccines are killing people, even though the government and the CDC ADMIT they can kill? Vaccine damage compensation, it pays out in the millions...for a reason. LOL
You're pathetic attempt at mudslinging is just sad. Prove your claims.
Vaccines haven't killed no one. I dare you: name one death in the last 30 years!!!! you can't clearly. Why? because vacines didn't kill anyone. But polio, measles and many other diseases keep killing unvaccinated people!
The CDC admit what? lololol since when? lololol
Vaccine damage may happen. But death is not a cause in any of the cases of the compensation protocol.
No, bayer didn't do such a thing. It was a unfurtunal mistake. There was no intention and bayer paid for their mistake. "they gave" nothing.
I keep asking for you to name one death report of a child caused by vaccines. The CDC doesn't claim what you claim. I dare you: name that death! you keep not doing it!
The vaccine provides life long immunity you idiot. you keep lying over and over. Go to the CDC and check if they don't oppose you. THEY DO!
LOL! Where is the proof vaccines provide lifetime immunity? Are you serious? Where is the quote? That is the most astounding lie ever!! You know what they say, if you say a lie big enough and often enough...
Yes vaccines work , at killing and disabling children . Anyone who does honest research into vaccines comes to the same conclusion , they are dangerous and unproven . The polio vaccine , for example , never worked . The disease had run its course before the vaccine came out . It disappeared in places with no vaccines at the same rate as those with an abundance of vaccines . The CDC even acknowledged this fact .
the Hannah Polling-case is the one case in which the American juridical system affirmed that, under the specific genetic condition, the vaccinations lead to her autistic condition.
This is the slippery slope of vaccin-related autism. Its out there and we should demand real answers by the industry, instead of their statistical murmerings and bedtime-stories that all is met within the standards of their own pre-conceptions.
Poling has a genetic condition, which even the first flu she could get would trigger the disease. Unfortanly it was a allergic reaction to the vaccine. She represents a very very rare case which is no example to the general population.
And i just gave you a real answer that you can get by reading the Poling case trial notes directly, instead of reading it in some crap anti-vaccination site.
hey look! there's mr Offit again, the guy who says it cant harm to take even 10.000 vaccinations individualy! Again mr Offit: feel free to show the truth of that statement to everybody in the room and take those shot yourself!! Curious if we will have a discussiob afterwards.Such statements should ruin your carrier as a genuine scientist.
By the way, please (on forhand!) make excuses to little ms Polling, who by the juridical system of ur country is proven to be harmed by the toxins u promote!
And to clarefy how stupid cybeaver is... the guy can't even check a person profile it seems... what a mess of nationalities... don't tell... you have no idea where Portugal is....
Poling had nothing to do with autism. And Poling had a previous genetic condition.
Nice try moron.
further cybeaver doubts explained and more debunk of his fear mongering (sure the result of to much space cakes):
Dearest Transantlantic,Its a habit of egotistic trolls like u to think that everything they read is adressed to them.Sorry for u but i was adressing mr Offit, a clear case of american citizin. And i got to do then checking out troll's profiles that r fake anyway.
But thanks for sharing ur expertise on spacecakes and its users again. Thats real value for money.
is that all u got layman? always fun to expose little trolls ('i ve been here for so long... yeah right) for an audience, even if its just 829 visitors. Pediatrics 121 (2): e2081... well that sounds l;ike the bible to me! haha. bless you.
and you accuse me of being a "layman"? you really have no clue what a reference is, do you?
let me teach you, the paper i posted is this: Pichichero ME, Gentile A, Giglio N et al. (2008). "Mercury levels in newborns and infants after receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccines"
don't tell... you actually have no idea what a peer-review is, do you?
you haven't exposed nothing and until now no evidence from you, NONE
Squalene causes severe arthritis (3 on a scale of 4). Squalene in humans at 10-20 parts per billion leads to severe immune responses, such as autoimmune arthritis and lupus. (Matsumoto, Gary. Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment Thats Killing Our Soldiers and Why GIs Are Only the First Victims of this Vaccine, New York: Basic Books. P54)
"Squalene is the biochemical precursor to the whole family of steroids", "one of the terminal double bonds of squalene yields 2,3-squalene oxide, which undergoes enzyme-catalyzed cyclization to afford lanosterol, which is then elaborated into cholesterol and other steroids."
you get the pic, squalene is an essential chemical that exists practically inside all living things....
and you just posted an article where toxicity is dose related concept appears...
Gary Matsumoto is a New York-based award-winning investigative journalist. His 2004 book, Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment Thats Killing Our Soldiers and Why GIs are Only the First Victims took sharp issue with IOM results and the Pentagons denial of Gulf War syndrome.
Matsumoto says Squalene is a kind of trigger for (a) real biological weapon, what Soviet researchers called a biological time bomb!! He and Dr. Pam Asa conclude that Oil adjuvants are the most insidious chemical weapon ever devised, including ones with squalene.
Contd. 2 So what American scientists conceived as a vaccine booster (or whats now being developed in labs) was another nano-bomb, instigating chronic, unpredictable and debilitating disease. Using squalene in vaccines is outlandish and criminal.
you really have no clue what is squalene, but nevertheless you read in some of your crap websites that "it is dangerous! be scared".... crap websites made by complete and utter morons! with no science education.
just google what is squalene in any chemistry site, or buy a science book! trust me, a science book is not like that fantasy book that you bought about homeopathy quackery.
I neither support creationsim nor evlution. Both are just theories which try to explain existence. I quite lke the Australian aboriginal story about the earth having been dreamed into existence. It makes a lot more sense to me than a junk science concept lke evolution. When one looks at world leaders like e.g GW Bush , it is quite clear that we are de-volving, not e-volving.
Squalene is produced naturally in ALL living mammals, plants and fungi.
Matsumoto is reffering to the use of squalene as a biological product that can be used for complex weapon molecules. The same could be applied to any of the essential aminoacids needed for life.
The point is that the use of squalene in vaccines is illegal, in both the US and the UK, yet the FDA found experimental vaccines containing squalene had been used to inject US and UK soldiers, thousands of whom later died from vaccine-related Gulf War Syndrome.
French soldiers who were not given these vaccines never suffered from GWS.
Get a squalene shot by all means. I wouldn't want to get anyone to get within pissing distance of me, with any vaccine of any sort.
the use of squalene is illegal? lol! since when? so we should stop eating vegetables, meat and fungi!!!! and lets remove all of our hormones shall we? as they are in their majority with a squalene group!
and you keep using the soldiers who got a experimental vaccine.... a vaccine that did not have the scutriny of years of trials and safety tests!!!!
"a vaccine that did not have the scutriny of years of trials and safety tests!!!!"
So why were they injected? It's a mafia enterprise. Also, the MMR vaccine was approved after safety trials lasting about two weeks, if I remember correctly. You live in lalaland.
Why the soldiers were injected? easy: military needs. Biological weapons exist and sometimes there is no time to 100% safety checks. On times of need....
"no mafia involved", just your stupidity, ignorance and complete idiocy.
MMR vaccine has decades of safety testing and ALL the records are public:
conspiracy wackos like you have such a selective memory.... you always attack what you imagine as the "conspiracy group" and then you just avoid to comment upon the other groups.
vaccinesafety edu is a non-profit organization, the people who work for it don't earn a dime for it.
It must be run by people who lve in lalaland, because there is no such thing as vaccine safety, as all vaccines are without exception unsafe, as they all maim and kill children.
vaccinesafety edu is a website created by a non-profit organization with the colaboration with dozens of experts in medical, immunology and infecciology field. anyone can read it.
why even care for useless comments like vax does? full of insults, smoke and mirrors, no evidence at all supports what he says... what a sheep....
come on... a person that thinks that homeopathy cures anything else except thirst? yeah, that's how wacko a person can be....
Yes, they're called vaccines. Ironically that well over 30000 Gulf War veterans have died as a result of the vaccinations that were supposed to protect them, yet none died from military biological warfare agents. It's like childhood vaccines: more chldren are killed and crippled by the vaccines than by the diseases they supposedly (but do not) prevent.
no it's not childhood imunization. Thos soldiers were vaccinated using a different method of vaccine development. The vaccines used were not as seriously tested as the civilian vaccines. It's completly moronic to try and compare both system. Nothing to do with each other, nothing.
and vaccines do prevent and you haven't given any evidence of opposite of such, yuou just make empty accusations. reminder that you are a complete loser who believes that homeopathy does anything.
No, they don't. One case military personal are given a needed measure to avoid possible biological weapon damage, with the best possible counter-measure that time and technology allowed for.
the other is a civilian measure, preventive care, with decades of trials, experience and safety test. Effective and safe.
btw...in all this talk you haven't presented one piece of evidence against pedicatric immuziation, none, while i have given plenty.
Whatever. If you think vaccines are safe, have them. Let's see you have 10,000, because Dr Paul Proffit says that's how many can be safely given to a child. Do you believe him?
"have them"? i do. And children will have it to. You keep shouting "belief", when in science nothing is about belief, but understanding and empirical observations. I understand why vaccines are safe and effective. They just copy what our immune system does naturally and fill the gap when the IS can't fight certain diseases - they prevent.
what i question is why don't you understand the science behind vaccines? do you know what a B or T cell is? what an antibody is? or what a epitope is?
ah,new troll on the block! well i dont understand how u laymen of the vaccinationindustry keep urself as stupid as u have to be by ignoring the basis of all science: natural phenomenaSo please shut up about scientific 'proof', cause i just have enough of all ur shallowtalk based on statistical renderings which,as we scientific people ALL know r easily forced by biased minds and questions Antibody,epitope?just started ur study baby?Get back to the REAL phenomena and start asking genuine questions
as for science.. Science? isnt that that brand of human thinking that came up with .. lets say..Flogiston? I always liked that. U know why? Because it made we aware as a scientist to never bluntly believe in the absolute truth of scientific ideas. i am a dear believer in science as method to try penetrate that incredible world that we r part of, but not as that utilitairian bundle of absolutes as which it is used by, for instance, the poisonminglers of the vaccinationindustry.
and as for medicinefacts...to understand the flaw and sheer lies by the vaccinationlaymen, u better get some real knowledge and insight in the working and adaptation of statistical methods, cause thats the weapons they r fighting this war with, not biochemistry. So, back to your desk and start some real thinking!
so you want real "biochemistry". Do you think i am lay man? right.... let's give you analytical analysis then:
Pediatrics 121 (2): e20814.
and when you want more, please feel free to ask. you want 5, 10 or 30 papers where vaccine safety is tested with "biochemistry", "REAL phenomena" garanteed!!!!
lol, what a moron that you are... go buy more space cakes, it will do you good
how can you say you like science when you have a complete misconception about it? sicence was never about "belief", but understanding and empirical observation.
what you believe is irrelevant. What exists can be understood, using science. But for that you need to learn how first. Something it is clear that you've never done...
"Comparing military vaccines to the civilian vaccines is wrong"
Not really. They're both biolgical warfare programmes. The only difference is that one is against civilians, causing harm to civilians, while the other is against against members of the armed forces, damaging government property, but they're both vandalism.
It is based solely in pseudoscience, surpestition and pure ignorance of the users. It is simply water and people who use it are more ill and might die to not going seek proper medical care!!!!
What is "vandalism" is an ignorant person like you spreading strupidity around the web....
MF-59 is oil-based and composed of squalene, Tween 80 and Span85. All oil adjuvants injected into rats were found to be toxic. All rats injected developed a disease similar to multiple sclerosis which left them crippled and dragging their paralyzed hindquarters across their cages. (Kenney, RT. Edleman, R. Survey of human-use adjuvants, Expert Review of Vaccines, 2003 p171)
A new report from a World Health Organization advisory group predicts that global production of vaccine for the novel H1N1 influenza virus could be as much as 4.9 billion doses a year, far higher than previous estimates. The new H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine is being made by the pharmaceutical company Novartis. It will contain MF59, a potentially debilitating adjuvant.
Not the full course. I only need to take one, remember? you still promote the silly notion that toxicity is not dose related. Therefore only one shot is needed to disprove your silly idea.
I already have it schedulled, don't woory. Just remind yourself that you'll have a looooot of quackery to assume and things to remove from your profile.
GM foods is not insanity (actually most your food is probably GM already...)
You write such levels of BS, but no surprise there. Why limit it to one shot. LOL?
GM food is already responsible for many adverse effects on human health & the environment.
As for fluoride being a requisite for healthy teeth, another piece of utter garbage spews forth. We have been fluoride free for over five years and our teeth are fine. My grandfather was a dentist. It was from him & my grandmother that I learned of the importance of a quality diet. He passed away at the ripe old age of 98!
Why limit to one shot? because i only need one at the moment and the swine flu shots haven't arrived yet. And your hypothesis only needs one shot to be disproven.
Evidence that GM food is responsible for "many adverse effects on human health"? none? thought so.
I never said that fluoride is a requisite for healthy teeth, just that it helps. You can't be fluoride free idiot. There is always natural exposition of it.
"Don't bother waisting your time with responsindg to him, you will achieve no real dialogue."
You're right. As Dr Herbert Shelton pointed out years ago: "Belief in immumization is a form of deluional insanity." That explains the irrational, delusional remarks transtlantic comes out with. Also, I suspect he is paid to place comments to attack people like us.
Dr what? lol Herbert Shelton had no scientific education!!!!!! come one.... you must know that using a chiropracter and naturapthic quack as an argument for authority is an epic fail....
the man had no idea what immunization is! so how can you use such person to support your quackery? quacks using other quacks? lol..... it's like using surpestition to try deny evolution!
Most of them are clueless, believing the medical-pharmaceutical propaganda that vaccines prevent diseases. They're useful idiots the drug companies use to peddle their toxic drugs, The fact that they will lower a fever with drugs shows how clueless they are.
"clueless"? of what? the david icke polimorphic lizards? "of the conspiracy in the shadows"?!?!? :P
You keep not reading this: EMPIRICISM!!!!! you can replicate the method to verify what any person publishs.
I do know who is clueless: all those "naturapaths", "homeopaths", chiro, herblists,.... with not a clue about science, spreading quackery, that they give no evidence of working! those are the "killers", the frauds!
So you propose to lower fever with....prayer? hehe...you are such an idiot
"So you propose to lower fever with....prayer? hehe...you are such an idiot"
This statement shows that you are as clueless as most doctors. Fever is a very important immune defense against infection. Lowering a fever disables the immune system, allowing the infection free reign. Babies who supposedly die from "infectious diseases are often killed by the medical "treatments" such as lowering fever.
The funny thing is that your statment was even more of a shown of ignorance and clueless..... as you did not answered to the question and avoided it.... and then making yourself look a fool, again!
Fever can kill. That's why it is lowered. And your IS promotes such fever. People used to die a lot before remedies to fight fever were found. AND YOU MORON, for thousands of years shamans, whatever ALSO fought fever because they knew it killed people with an infection!!!!
You are absolutely spot on. Having worked with water in living ecologies for more than thirty years, if there is one thing that stands out, it is that the temperature bandwidth for human pathogens is of paramount importance.
The psuedo science applied in so many areas seems to be incapable of seeing the importance of harmonic resonance. But there is hope, this evening I attended a meeting of scientists with specialist areas in bio-chemistry. The debates although heated reached agreement.
What you have done in 30 years can accumulate to the equilivent of a chapter in a science book about water use....
"harmonic ressonance" IS the pseudoscience, not the other way around... you must live inside some anti-universe buble with different physical laws...
I can only wonder if you talked about your "harmonic ressonance ideas".... or you did and a lot of "bad vibes" started to "radiate from the ether" around you, unless by "bio-chemistry" meeting you meant Quack Homeopaths
At least homeopaths don't maim and kill babies under the pretext of preventing diseases. I have used homoeopathy to cure a case of shingles, as has a friend of mine. Homoeopathy works on babies and animals as well, so it can't just be a placebo effect as some claim. Unfortunately there is no allopathic or homoeopathic treatment that would cure your appalling ignorance.
Homeopaths do kill babies. Yhere a lot of youtube videos about such cases. watch?v=IEDYsI7lBd8 - its one of them.
Homeopthy can't do a thing!!!! it's physically impossible. It's just water. It's ALL placebo effect.
Wanna proof? the US spent 2.5 BILLION taxpayers dollars trying to verify if anything outside medicine workss - result: ALL of it is no better than a placebo!!!! homeopathy included. Check it, the report was published last month.
this same example applies to the rest of the quackery - seen in the mother who let her diabetic child die because she thought prayer would be better than giving insulin, and more examples exist.
People have a problem, use quackery instead of seeking proper medical care --> they die
Vaccines haven't killed a person in decades, but diseases like HPV kill 11 women PER DAY. Or why not polio? more than 100 die per day due to polio.
Hey everyone!!! Google 'Ian's Voice' to find out what an ignorant fool or what a liar transtlantic is. But then, I guess you knew or suspected that already.
lol..... yes, trust a parent who was complelty explored by anti-vaccination quacks.... in no place is proof that the vax was the cause of death. it's an assumption based by a parent in despair to blame whatever!
so why not google:
sciencebasedmedicine org
vaccinesafety edu
why listen to quackery when you can ask people who know directly?
"in no place is proof that the vax was the cause of death"
Babies get vaccinated, then die. Antibiotics can cause fatal reactions as well, as can peanuts, or bee stings, in some people, so why not vaccines? Are vaccines magically excluded? Grow a brain.
Frankly, I can't be bothered arguing with you. I have better things to do with my time. Like spreading the news that criminal charges have been filed against the WHO and an international corporate crime syndicate including vaccine manufacturers to carry out a mass genocide against the people of the United States by using an artificial (genetic) flu pandemic virus.
I didn't say this. I'm just repeating what the document stated that was used to file criminal charges with the FBI, against the WHO, the CDC, vaccine manufacturers, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others, for conspiring to create a deadly flu pandemic by means of a genetically engineered flu virus and imposing mandatory vaccination on the US population.
"vaccine allergic reactions are less than 1 per million people"
That's the magic Mickey Mouse figure, like the CDC's alleged 36000 US flu deaths each year, which the BMJ has exposed as a fabrication. What a farce. It alwas amuses me that grown up, supposedly intelligent and well-educated people like doctors fall for such obvious junk science.
more empty accusations against the CDC , use of BMJ, that is only used as support when it fits your delusion.You are the typical psychiatric patient with a paranoia disorder.... no wonder you believe in homeopathy....
read this: "A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Autism", Volume 347:1477-1482, November 7, 2002, NEMJ, more than 500000 children studied
Conclusions This study provides strong evidence against the hypothesis that MMR vaccination causes autism.
For any of you coming to this video, I strongly suggest that you watch the comments posted by the entity transtlantic. He is a deceiver & not what he claims to be. Indeed he may well be sponsored by nthe Eugenicists who are now unleashing the bio-weapons upon humanity, for as we can readily see, the established medical fraternities are a party to these insanities.
so medicine increased life span of the Human specie, reduced young death to levels never seen in just less than 100 yars compared to 250000 years of existence as a specie.... (history: life expectancy before 20th century London: 45-50 years, now? more than 75, btw...before the 19th centure Lexpectancy was lower than 40)
medicine is the biggest anti-eugenic science there is! you moron!
you are no doubt the strongest advocate for quackery and nonsense....
"medicine increased life span of the Human species"
That's what they want us to believe. Medicine had little or nothing to do with it. Read medcial historian Thamas McKeown. The drop in deaths from inf diseases was due mostly to improved living conditions such as clean water and housing and better nutrition.
The persistent use of alopathic chemicals ensures that whilst symptoms may be alleviated (the only thing that your average GP seems to be capable of) the recipient called a patient (because that is what they must be) is practiced upon.
For any interested in longevity and the truth of lifespans, research the diet & lifestyle of the people of Okinowa
you idiot. You must think that the vitamins you by in the "natural pharmacy" are made "naturally".... Or why not stop producing insulin? even though it is exactly the same from what the human body produces.... Or why not stop giving iodine for thyroid problems?
Okinowa people, are just like the incas or the centenary italian island: genes plus isolation. Put them in the REAL world and they die due to common infection, unless there is a doctor around..
The incas had "improved living conditions", "clean water", "good housing" and "good nutrition", the moment their society come into contact with other cultures: BAM, all dead. Not just killed by the spanish, but by HUGE epidemics from simple diseases.
Just look around you. In increasing numbers, you will see human beings who have been damaged. The fullest reactions to these corruptions can be witnessed over the life span, considerations never included by these sick twisted maniacs. Look up tetragenic compounds, there are many.
I have a brother in law, who just over a year ago, underwent surgery on his spine, he is now within days of meeting his maker through the assaults of the chemicals injected & ingested by him.
No doubt money is to be made, but that does not mean vaccines do not WORK!!! There is a reason why Polio, Rubella, Smallpox, etc, have been virtually wiped out in our country ... Let me give you a hint... VACCINES! They save lives, period. For non-believers, why don't you take your kids and live in a 3rd world country where vaccines are hard to come by... see if your kids are safer there. Take it from a health professional, the benefits outweigh the potential costs!!!
Indeed. Vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise disguised as disease prevention. Vaccines have never protected anyone, let alone saved anyone's life. it's a multi-billion dollar con job only morons believe in. No offense meant! I used to be one myself!
Gardasil HPV vaccine - Kills! and has destroyed the health of 1000's more!
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fallendaisy1 1 year ago
Translantic! All your bogus peer reviewed studies are paid for and done by Big Pharma. The fox guarding the chicken house. Just like there will never be a cure for cancer; its already there. Can't profit patent food or a natural substance. Dr Andrew Mouldens site, google it. Correct your denial and foolish ignorance! Children are dying and being harmed by vaccines in mass numbers! Paul "For Profit" Offit, is full of crap! Vaccines did not wipe out any disease, its all misinformation and lies
antivax2 2 years ago
Transatlantic and Bagitol47 work for pharmaceutical companies, you'll see them arguing thier invalid points under countless videos. When would they have the time to do this? They're either mentally disabled themselves or are getting paid to troll around the internet. They don't present any independent studdies all are tainted with ties to Big Pharma- look at Gary Null's studdies, he is TRULY independent.
CJEB4 2 years ago
I will show you the connection. Go to my website listed on my video.
antivax2 2 years ago 2
Vaccines DO kill. It's right on their package insert. When the vaccine program was initiated, parents once had to sign a waiver that in part said it can cause PERMANENT BRAINDAMAGE AND DEATH.
Autism is permanent braindamage and vaccines HAVE killed people, it's one of it's many side effects.Even the CDC says it can cause DEATH. Even the CDC admits some people are allergic to them and can DIE though they never even test for allergies. Why? Call it gross neglegence.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago 2
kill? who? name one death? come on, i dare you. Cars also kill, it's right there at the tv. It happens everyday! and eating? wow, that kills thousands per year! hehe
DOESN'T CAUSE ANY DAMAGE. DEATH COMES FROM DISEASE.
Some children with autism do recover a significantly to a more "regular" level.
Do you know what the CDC doesn't need to tell?
Diseases kill. Vaccines prevent such deaths. End of.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Hepatitis B is transmitted through "contact" as much as HIV is transmitted through "contact". Same mode of transmission, darling.
Please figure out where you're going with your arguments.
I had a feeling they are teaching healthcare workers these days that Hep B can be transmitted through casual contact. It's scary when the healthcare workers are becoming purposely retarded.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
I never mentioned "casual contact", you did.
The retarded here, is a stupid dumb woman that keeps providing all the reasons that the educational system keeps letting losers run rampage. You are total ignorant little person and you come here shouting stupidity.
hey; loser. vertical transmission ALONE is a reason to give HepB vaccine. try another.
when you really show to me that you have any idea what immunology or a vaccine is do come back. until then you are simply: dumb.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Mary, tranny has been voted as Shill of the year for Youtube, as soon as he gets caught for a felon or something serious for his karma, I'm sure he will log back in as another alias and continue calling people names who don't agree with him.
truvelocity 2 years ago
How much you want to bet he's not going to get the H1N1 mass killer vaccine this Fall.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
You're a liar. I find it hard to believe that all the old people in your country have received childhood vaccines.
Does your country require the same shots as the USA does. Becuase I will tell you right now for a fucking fact that over half the population of my country have not received any bullshit "childhood disease" HEP B sexually transmitted disease--that the kids since the 70's have.
What are you talking about general "health" WTF does that have to do with said illnesses vaccines are for?
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
the vaccine that old people get more from the childhood program is the tetanus, pneumococcus and tuberculosis.
My country doesn't have 2 or 3 of your childhood program. Because for example the rotavirus strain here is very weak.
HepB may be transmitted by contact or vertical transmission. It's not just sexually transmitted. Its because people haven't all received the HepB that many viral hepatitis stil happen in older ages.
transtlantic 2 years ago
The CDC and corresponding national organisations are carefully observing the failure rate which may be high compared with other modern vaccines - large outbreaks of chickenpox having occurred at schools which required their children to be vaccinated.[18][19][20][21][22]
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
that CDC post was about comparison between older vaccines and new ones....
"modern vaccines" are much more effective.
That post supports immunizations. you didn't compare with schools with no immunizations. Try do that. Use an african school with no immunization and see how big is the problem. And do try see theri rates of postherpetic neuroalgia compared to the US. hint: the difference is HUGE. immunizations are effective.
transtlantic 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about herd immunity. DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY WORDS: NONE OF THE BOOMER GENERATION AND NONE OF THE WWII GENERATION HAVE HAD THE VACCINES THAT CHILDREN FROM THE 70'S OBTAINED UPON IMPLEMENTATION.
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOUR COMPREHENSION SKILLS?
WHAT FUCKING HERD IMMUNITY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION WHO HAVE EVER RECIEVED THESE VACCINES.
TARD.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
Vaccines exist for more than 100 years. The polio mass vaccinations programs were around the 50s.... so you don't need to shout.
The population of the US in their majority is vaccinated. when compared to other countries. Herd immunity is around 92-95% in the US. I am talking about each year of children that are born.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Polio! that was it! besides smallpox--where bodies of babies and children were dying in hoards! that was the only thing they were vaccinated against.
As far as my fucking grandparents generation, I don't think they EVER receieved one goddamn vaccine besides the recent flu shots!
how the fuck do you explain this bullshit "herd immunization"?
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
you can get the definition of herd immunity (not immunization, thats the process) in the web, dictionary or encyclopedia.
lol, you can think whatever. Just go to my country health departmenet website, there's the weekly schedule for you to receive any vaccine you want of the program for free. the data of the age of receivers is all there.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Some vaccinated children have been found to lose their protective antibody in as little as five to eight years.[16]
Chaves SS, Gargiullo P, Zhang JX, et al. (March 2007). "Loss of vaccine-induced immunity to varicella over time". N. Engl. J. Med. 356 (11): 11219. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa064040. PMID 17360990.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
with herd immunity, Even if the vaccine doesn't provide immunity for more than 5 to 8 years. The disease is erradicated. That is the importance of us all being immunized. Herd immunity protects us all.
Plus in the paper the "some" were 11000 in the middle of 350000. sure its better than 90% of them getting varicela. that papers supports immunizations and another dose later in life.
transtlantic 2 years ago
idiot. over half of the population of my country, and likely yours too who are alive today have not received any shots.
how the fuck do you explain there not being whooping cough outbreaks and measles in people who are 40 and over?
retard. Are you saying only children are carriers of disease?
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
Half of the population of mine and yours received vaccines.
My population actually complies more, that's why we are better than yours in terms of health care also. it goes as high as 98%-99% per year and over 65 years of age close to 60% have taken ALL the vaccines they missed when they were young. and over 70% take the flu shot everyear.
the reason there isn't whooping cough outbreaks its because: they survived when they were children and now are immune or not, but herd immunity protects them
transtlantic 2 years ago
Oh bullshit, as far as your narrow world view goes: the only several diseases children are vaccinated against were making their rounds amongst all of the people aged 40 and over,
including whooping cough, sexually transmitted Hep B, diptheria, TB. What a crock of shit. NOBODY IN MY FAMILY EVER GOT ANY OF THOSE DISEASES AND THEY WERE NEVER VACCINATED.
But my mother DID have a reaction to the smallpox vaccine at 6 years old, so severe, she was running a 106 fever for 3 days and almost died!
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
lol...you clearly don't even know the epidemiology of the diseases... so don't even try start going in a rant about epidemics without anything to back you up.
Your little story about your family is anedoctal. Just go to the epidemiological data and see the numbers of people who used to die from diphteria, TB, hepB and whooping cough. The reason you don't hear about it now its because: VACCINES!!! you dumb little person.
transtlantic 2 years ago
2nd) whooping cough is more serious in young children. an adult may have whooping cough and survive, be a carrier and then pass to children. So let's keep the children protected, shall we.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Bullshit. Why does a child have to be vaccinated against Hep B , a SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE. Doctors and healthcare workers are liars. They don't offer the information to parents and the parents are so fucking stupid, which healthcare snakes are c ounting on, that they don't even know that their baby is getting immunized for a fucking sexually transmitted disease.
You are saying Hep B offers a gauranteed lifetime immunity? Sources please.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
I already told you TWICE why a child need to be vaccinated against HepB. 1) HepB can be transmited by contact 2) HepB can be transmitted mother to child during partum.
I am offering information to you, you dumb loser. I am taking the time for it. But you are proof enough of a STUPID parent.
what i say is that vaccines provide the same chances of immune memory as natural process. with the advantage that you don't get the consequences of disease.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Hep B can not be transmitted by contact unless you are sharing blood. are you serious that you consider yourself a medically knowledgable person?
By contact. OMG read the CDC and reeducate yourself darling.
You seem to be the dumb loser here.
Hep B it's been studied does not offer long term immunity.
Do you read studies? It doesn't even seem you read the information on the diseases you claim to know about.
How many people do you have blood contact with you dirty fucker?
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
Hepatitis B is transmitted through blood and infected bodily fluids. This can occur through:
direct blood-to-blood contact
unprotected sex
unsterile needles
from an infected woman to her newborn during the delivery process.
Hepatitis B is NOT transmitted casually.
--Hep B foundation.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
HepB foundation, you again provided anedocatl claims. And no studies. no support.
"not transmitted casually" is quite a claim... well.. we can say there is no evidence that HepB is not transmitted in significant casual contacts. and that would be right.
"bodily fluids" include saliva. Not blood. That's a method of transmission. you keep providing all the reason to vaccinate against HepB. Thanks, "darling"
transtlantic 2 years ago
Petersen NJ, Barrett DH, Bond WW, Berquist KR, Favero MS, Bender TR, Maynard JE (1976). "Hepatitis B surface antigen in saliva, impetiginous lesions, and the environment in two remote Alaskan villages". Appl. Environ. Microbiol. 32 (4): 572574.
Hep B can be transmitted by contact alone. Its written in any Microbiology book. Use mine: Murray, medical microbiology
you the one who needs some teaching. You are dumb and ignorant.
transtlantic 2 years ago
HepB virus doesn't confer life long immunity naturally or not? lol... in fact it can provide liftime immunity. The point in the vaccines is to avoid disease you idiot. If you are immunized the virus can't enter the cells!!!!
vertical transmission doesn't need blood contact you moron.
transtlantic 2 years ago
by contact? What contact? That's like saying children are at the same risk for HIV. Where are the childhood HIV outbreaks?
It's a fucking sexually transmitted disease. DId you get yours? All the vaccines you must have had explains your mental block and ability to easily become brainwashed. Call it braindamage.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
HIV doesn't last as long as the HepB virus in the open environment. Comparing two different species of virus, that are not even close in terms of comparison... is quite a huge mistake to do... just a quick important factor: HepB is a double stranded DNA virus and HIV is a RNA virus. that is a huge difference.
plus HIV is not just a sexually transmitted disease. i did get all the three jabs of the HepB vaccine.
want me to tape me gettting the H1N1 vax? i just did one of such vax vids btw.
transtlantic 2 years ago
They are the same modes of transmission with the same risk categories.Go to the CDC and figure it out for yourself. Paste what they say back on here on how you get it and who's at risk.but
I know you are purposely trying to frustrate the argument. It's not just sexually transmitted? Golly gee, can you get Hep B through a blood transfusion too?
Vaccines KILL. They have a legacy of it
Yes. I would like you to tape getting your h1n1 engineered bio weaponized eugenics shot, baaa! baaa! baaa!!
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
Well, vaccines don't kill and i already put you the challenge to name one death caused by immunizations in the last 30 years. you keep not presenting any. you are LYING!
If i tape it would you confess that i am right?
plus, that "weaponized eugenics" was another of you exposing youself as the tin foil conspiracy hat delusional fool that you are.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Look at this fool go! Standard medical model robot chicken. If you are honest I will prove to you, how wrong you ARE!
antivax2 2 years ago
lol... so prove me wrong then.
I presented already countless peer-reviewed scientific papers. I take the time to explain you why lay people like yourself are wrong and to clarefy doubts about the papers. nevertheless all of you, ignorant antivaxpeople, come here and present nothing but nonsense.
grow up! you have no idea about basic sciences. So, how the heck can you even present a case about a science that has been proven necessary for more than 200 years of history? get real!
transtlantic 2 years ago
LOl...I can't believe you are trying to say vaccines provide lifetime immunity, is that what you think based on your own crap logic or is that something that they are teaching you now?
Either way it's a big fat fucking lie.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
wanna see proof of lifetime immunity. Ok:
I think you know that pregnats do serologic tests to verify if they are immune to a set of bacteria, virus and parasites? well, go look up which ones they are.
You'll find there your proof.
Do you know what is a fat lie? is you saying that you get immunity for life without using vaccines. its a total exposure of ignorance.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Why do the healthcare workers themselves say that people who are already vaccinated are 'non immune", look up the studies yourself of outbreaks, even children that were immunized still got it~! the vaccines don't work, that's proof!!!! I got the MMR in childhood and I was "NON IMMUNE" when tested 8 years ago.
what the fuck.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
People who are vaccinated are immunized. Hence the Immunization program.
Outbrakes and so on, keep being way way lower than if people were not immunized. Preventive care is not a cure, its prevention, its a method to reduce chances of illness. Proof that vaccines work is that outbrakes in vaccinated countries are in the dozens, while in unvaccinated countries are by the thousands and hundreds die!!!!
You may get another MMR boost. And lucky you: herd immunity is high
transtlantic 2 years ago
In populations with no vaccination for measles the rate of death would be 1 in 4,000 . Compared to the 1 in 6 children with signs of vaccine damage , it is much safer to not vaccinate .
thesepipesRclean 2 years ago
another number pulled out of your arse pipe...
can you even support your nonsense?
btw... vaccines produce mild reactions in 1 in a million people. and this is a fact. so you are lying.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Serious allergic reaction (less than 1 out of a million doses) Several other severe problems have been reported after DTaP vaccine. These include: * Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness * Permanent brain damage.
CDC
strait from the site,
retard.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
I know. Less than 1 out of a milion cases. That is a very small number compared to what would happen if we let measles run rampage.
Do you know the number of deaths calculated to happen if we suddently stopped giving all the vaccines? in just 3 years: 2,7 million deaths in the US alone. Don't you think that is scary? for me it is.
get a brain moron. your antiscience only scares the ignorants.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Now..do number the "long term" numbers that actually exist at the moment, hint:
0 permanent brain damage
0 coma
get lost creationist, you are exposed
transtlantic 2 years ago
Zero? really? 0? You actually believe that? Seriously. You are either being purposefully intellectually dishonest to confuse the debate, or you are totally brainwashed by the modern medicine dogma, either way, you'll make a great drug pusher for big Pharma after you go through your training. Does the government pay for your college in you country or will you leave college financially ruined like in America?
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
Dr. Bernadine Healey has seen the connection between vaccine and Autism . As former head of the National Institute of Health , her credentials cannot match up with a self proclaimed "med student " on the internet . Healy said the government is simply uninterested in studying why unvaccinated children have lees incidence of Autism and ADHD . She has begun speaking out against the blind claims of "vaccines are safe " .
thesepipesRclean 2 years ago
"lees" is not a word btw... you probably meant "less".
She can speak out whatever. Without anything to back her up. She or anyone like you can only present anedoctal claims.
transtlantic 2 years ago
I love that translantic poses as a medical student , but he can't spell or use proper grammar . I have looked at some of his posts and they are ridiculous . He claims the vaccines are safer than the manufacturers themselves . What medical school is it where you have 10-12 hours a day to post on youtube videos ? The guy is clearly a liar and a joke .
thesepipesRclean 2 years ago
I can spell and use grammar. English is not my first language so you will have the courtesy of not noticing the mistakes i make.
10-12 hours a day? lol... lololol
so you can't really present any evidence against vaccines, do you? no? ofc not
transtlantic 2 years ago
There is a genetic link to Autism , in the same way that getting punched in the nose causes it to gush blood . If I punch you in the nose it will bleed , if you have weaker genetics that cause say thiner bone structure , your nose will break and bleed more . Vaccines damage every single child who gets one , th extent of that damage is somewhat affected by genetics . They have been proven to lower a childs IQ . How is that not damaging ?
thesepipesRclean 2 years ago 6
You made perfect sense to me!
shebecare40 2 years ago
The vaccines replicate what happens naturally. plus it provides "help" when your genes havent evolved to fight the diseases vaccines prevent against.
Your example was sheer misconception about what is autism.
Plus there isn't proof that vaccines lower IQ. That is a lie. not supported by any scientific study.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Well , this may not be scientific , but you were vaccinated and have shown yourself to be to be very stupid . You are such a dicksucker , why don't you get a job instead of commenting on youtube videos above your comprehension level .
thesepipesRclean 2 years ago
more insults... you were right: you were not "scientific". Your post didn't provide any proof that i am "stupid". Actually it showed that you the stupid moron here. plus it was a total lack of argumentation...
go read some papers i have on my profile. What bothers you, is that i am right. There is no link between vaccines and autism.
get lost
transtlantic 2 years ago
translantic. I hope you don't have any children. Seriously. You don't know how to protect them. You have no mind of your own and ascribe to the dogma of the day.... you're akin to one of those ancient assholes who would sacrifice their children gladly to molak if the high priests of the day told you to for fear of being called a heretic.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
right..... go seek psychiatric help you idiot
transtlantic 2 years ago
What are you? A pinkie commy bastard telling people they need to seek psychiatric help at the USSR style government reeducation centers if they question the establishment?
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
lol.... no, i am a person that reads all of your nonsense and understand that you are two possible things:
an ignorant idiot that choose this theme as the conspiracy theme of the week.
or
a person with paranoia and some psycosis in the middle. that really believes in tin foil hat conspiracy theories.
both options would need help: education and probably some therapy.
transtlantic 2 years ago
WTF are you talking about? Do you know? Why don't you try to refute the claims instead of grasping for your lazy minded fall back "that's a conspiracy theory"!!
LOL/ What's a conspiracy theory? That Bayer infected children with AIDS? That vaccines are killing people, even though the government and the CDC ADMIT they can kill? Vaccine damage compensation, it pays out in the millions...for a reason. LOL
You're pathetic attempt at mudslinging is just sad. Prove your claims.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
I already said: conspiracy theory.
Bayer never did that to children.
Vaccines haven't killed no one. I dare you: name one death in the last 30 years!!!! you can't clearly. Why? because vacines didn't kill anyone. But polio, measles and many other diseases keep killing unvaccinated people!
The CDC admit what? lololol since when? lololol
Vaccine damage may happen. But death is not a cause in any of the cases of the compensation protocol.
you are a creationist idiot.
transtlantic 2 years ago
You are an intellectually dishonest retard. Bayer had tainted blood, they gave THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AIDS YOU IDIOT. IT'S A FUCKING FACT. idiot.
Vaccines HAVE absolutely killed people....children. Even the CDC admits THAT, moron.
The national vaccine compensation fund has payed out for that very thing!
Women used to let their children play with other children with measles, because unlike the vaccine, moron,
getting the actual disease gives lifetime immunity.
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
No, bayer didn't do such a thing. It was a unfurtunal mistake. There was no intention and bayer paid for their mistake. "they gave" nothing.
I keep asking for you to name one death report of a child caused by vaccines. The CDC doesn't claim what you claim. I dare you: name that death! you keep not doing it!
The vaccine provides life long immunity you idiot. you keep lying over and over. Go to the CDC and check if they don't oppose you. THEY DO!
transtlantic 2 years ago
LOL! Where is the proof vaccines provide lifetime immunity? Are you serious? Where is the quote? That is the most astounding lie ever!! You know what they say, if you say a lie big enough and often enough...
MaryOMackie 2 years ago
Yes vaccines work , at killing and disabling children . Anyone who does honest research into vaccines comes to the same conclusion , they are dangerous and unproven . The polio vaccine , for example , never worked . The disease had run its course before the vaccine came out . It disappeared in places with no vaccines at the same rate as those with an abundance of vaccines . The CDC even acknowledged this fact .
thesepipesRclean 2 years ago 5
wow..lot of incredible claims and no references to back you up.
Polio vaccine always worked. That's you probably don't know what is an iron lung.
The diseases killed thousands per year before the vaccine.
The CDC reffutes you. Its an historical fact that vaccines erradicated polio in the western world.
transtlantic 2 years ago
"vaccineshurtbabies" is a professional baby coffin salesman. This is the real reason why vaccines bother him.... because they work.
MatthewRider1 2 years ago
watch?v=WDeAA2QtJQk
Mercury in vaccinations...all medical field workers please make this information go viral, H1N1 mandatory injections.
mookixox 2 years ago
the Hannah Polling-case is the one case in which the American juridical system affirmed that, under the specific genetic condition, the vaccinations lead to her autistic condition.
This is the slippery slope of vaccin-related autism. Its out there and we should demand real answers by the industry, instead of their statistical murmerings and bedtime-stories that all is met within the standards of their own pre-conceptions.
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
Explaining Poling's case to cybeavertoo moron:
Poling has a genetic condition, which even the first flu she could get would trigger the disease. Unfortanly it was a allergic reaction to the vaccine. She represents a very very rare case which is no example to the general population.
And i just gave you a real answer that you can get by reading the Poling case trial notes directly, instead of reading it in some crap anti-vaccination site.
sciencebasedmedicine org
transtlantic 2 years ago
hey look! there's mr Offit again, the guy who says it cant harm to take even 10.000 vaccinations individualy! Again mr Offit: feel free to show the truth of that statement to everybody in the room and take those shot yourself!! Curious if we will have a discussiob afterwards.Such statements should ruin your carrier as a genuine scientist.
By the way, please (on forhand!) make excuses to little ms Polling, who by the juridical system of ur country is proven to be harmed by the toxins u promote!
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
And to clarefy how stupid cybeaver is... the guy can't even check a person profile it seems... what a mess of nationalities... don't tell... you have no idea where Portugal is....
Poling had nothing to do with autism. And Poling had a previous genetic condition.
Nice try moron.
further cybeaver doubts explained and more debunk of his fear mongering (sure the result of to much space cakes):
sciencebasedmedicine org
transtlantic 2 years ago
Dearest Transantlantic,Its a habit of egotistic trolls like u to think that everything they read is adressed to them.Sorry for u but i was adressing mr Offit, a clear case of american citizin. And i got to do then checking out troll's profiles that r fake anyway.
But thanks for sharing ur expertise on spacecakes and its users again. Thats real value for money.
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
i even find it funny that you don't realize that the ony troll/sheep in all this its you....
my joke about space cakes: eat to much and your brain shrinks! that's what is happening to you, moron cybeaver!
transtlantic 2 years ago
silly tod
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
is that all u got layman? always fun to expose little trolls ('i ve been here for so long... yeah right) for an audience, even if its just 829 visitors. Pediatrics 121 (2): e2081... well that sounds l;ike the bible to me! haha. bless you.
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
and you accuse me of being a "layman"? you really have no clue what a reference is, do you?
let me teach you, the paper i posted is this: Pichichero ME, Gentile A, Giglio N et al. (2008). "Mercury levels in newborns and infants after receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccines"
don't tell... you actually have no idea what a peer-review is, do you?
you haven't exposed nothing and until now no evidence from you, NONE
transtlantic 2 years ago
vaccinesafety edu
transtlantic 2 years ago
Squalene causes severe arthritis (3 on a scale of 4). Squalene in humans at 10-20 parts per billion leads to severe immune responses, such as autoimmune arthritis and lupus. (Matsumoto, Gary. Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment Thats Killing Our Soldiers and Why GIs Are Only the First Victims of this Vaccine, New York: Basic Books. P54)
pondman27 2 years ago
Squalene can cause what? lol....
"Squalene is the biochemical precursor to the whole family of steroids", "one of the terminal double bonds of squalene yields 2,3-squalene oxide, which undergoes enzyme-catalyzed cyclization to afford lanosterol, which is then elaborated into cholesterol and other steroids."
you get the pic, squalene is an essential chemical that exists practically inside all living things....
and you just posted an article where toxicity is dose related concept appears...
transtlantic 2 years ago
Gary Matsumoto is a New York-based award-winning investigative journalist. His 2004 book, Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment Thats Killing Our Soldiers and Why GIs are Only the First Victims took sharp issue with IOM results and the Pentagons denial of Gulf War syndrome.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Contd.1
Matsumoto says Squalene is a kind of trigger for (a) real biological weapon, what Soviet researchers called a biological time bomb!! He and Dr. Pam Asa conclude that Oil adjuvants are the most insidious chemical weapon ever devised, including ones with squalene.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Contd. 2 So what American scientists conceived as a vaccine booster (or whats now being developed in labs) was another nano-bomb, instigating chronic, unpredictable and debilitating disease. Using squalene in vaccines is outlandish and criminal.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
refuttal contd2:
Now you see how stupid is what you write, vax. A complete utter nonsense....
a huge error in terms of basic concepts about science, chemistry mainly is a huge gap inside your knowledge....
Scientists used what is natural in the world - squalene, something that is produced every second inside your own body!!!!!
you sure a bomb, a bomb of ignorance and pure stupidity
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Scientists used what is natural in the world - squalene, something that is produced every second inside your own body!!!!!"
You have it, if you want. I would never give a vaccine to a dog, let alone to myself or to a child of mine.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
LOL, don't you see how stupid do you sound?
you really have no clue what is squalene, but nevertheless you read in some of your crap websites that "it is dangerous! be scared".... crap websites made by complete and utter morons! with no science education.
just google what is squalene in any chemistry site, or buy a science book! trust me, a science book is not like that fantasy book that you bought about homeopathy quackery.
let me guess.... you are also a creationist?
transtlantic 2 years ago
lol, again with the squalene?
to make it easy and simple for you, from wikipedia: squalene:
"is the biochemical precursor to the whole family of steroids"; "is a natural organic compound"
get it? it's like saying that chlorine is deadly because it exists in hundreds of highly deadly chemicals! it's a dumb logic!!!
how can you be so stupid!
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Squalene is a natural organic compound"
So is mouse blood. Try injecting some into your anatomy and see what
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
again with the squalene thing?
do you even know what "molecule" means? my bet you do not...
don't avoid your meds vax...you really need it. You have what is called paranoia disorder.
tell me, do you support creationism to?
transtlantic 2 years ago
"do you support creationism"
I neither support creationsim nor evlution. Both are just theories which try to explain existence. I quite lke the Australian aboriginal story about the earth having been dreamed into existence. It makes a lot more sense to me than a junk science concept lke evolution. When one looks at world leaders like e.g GW Bush , it is quite clear that we are de-volving, not e-volving.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
hah!!! i caught your lunacy again. So now i can had creationism to the list. You believe in homeopathy and surpestition!
Evolution is a fact, what you believe is irrelevant, as the FACT that evolution IS, does not depend upon you believing in it or not!
Why did you just decided to fail at highschool? why are you such a ignorant little person?
how can a moron like you think? you can't clearly...
tell me: do the australian aboriginals invented the computer and the internet that you are using?
transtlantic 2 years ago
refutal for contd1:
Squalene is produced naturally in ALL living mammals, plants and fungi.
Matsumoto is reffering to the use of squalene as a biological product that can be used for complex weapon molecules. The same could be applied to any of the essential aminoacids needed for life.
toxicity is dose related
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Squalene"
The point is that the use of squalene in vaccines is illegal, in both the US and the UK, yet the FDA found experimental vaccines containing squalene had been used to inject US and UK soldiers, thousands of whom later died from vaccine-related Gulf War Syndrome.
French soldiers who were not given these vaccines never suffered from GWS.
Get a squalene shot by all means. I wouldn't want to get anyone to get within pissing distance of me, with any vaccine of any sort.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
the use of squalene is illegal? lol! since when? so we should stop eating vegetables, meat and fungi!!!! and lets remove all of our hormones shall we? as they are in their majority with a squalene group!
and you keep using the soldiers who got a experimental vaccine.... a vaccine that did not have the scutriny of years of trials and safety tests!!!!
transtlantic 2 years ago
"a vaccine that did not have the scutriny of years of trials and safety tests!!!!"
So why were they injected? It's a mafia enterprise. Also, the MMR vaccine was approved after safety trials lasting about two weeks, if I remember correctly. You live in lalaland.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Why the soldiers were injected? easy: military needs. Biological weapons exist and sometimes there is no time to 100% safety checks. On times of need....
"no mafia involved", just your stupidity, ignorance and complete idiocy.
MMR vaccine has decades of safety testing and ALL the records are public:
vaccinesafety edu
CDC
FDA
transtlantic 2 years ago
"vaccinesafety edu
CDC
FDA "
Mafia info!
FDA = Federal Death Agency
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
the "mafia info"? lol
conspiracy wackos like you have such a selective memory.... you always attack what you imagine as the "conspiracy group" and then you just avoid to comment upon the other groups.
vaccinesafety edu is a non-profit organization, the people who work for it don't earn a dime for it.
get real you moron
transtlantic 2 years ago
"vaccinesafety edu is a non-profit organization:'
It must be run by people who lve in lalaland, because there is no such thing as vaccine safety, as all vaccines are without exception unsafe, as they all maim and kill children.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
vaccinesafety edu is a website created by a non-profit organization with the colaboration with dozens of experts in medical, immunology and infecciology field. anyone can read it.
why even care for useless comments like vax does? full of insults, smoke and mirrors, no evidence at all supports what he says... what a sheep....
come on... a person that thinks that homeopathy cures anything else except thirst? yeah, that's how wacko a person can be....
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Biological weapons exist"
Yes, they're called vaccines. Ironically that well over 30000 Gulf War veterans have died as a result of the vaccinations that were supposed to protect them, yet none died from military biological warfare agents. It's like childhood vaccines: more chldren are killed and crippled by the vaccines than by the diseases they supposedly (but do not) prevent.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
no it's not childhood imunization. Thos soldiers were vaccinated using a different method of vaccine development. The vaccines used were not as seriously tested as the civilian vaccines. It's completly moronic to try and compare both system. Nothing to do with each other, nothing.
and vaccines do prevent and you haven't given any evidence of opposite of such, yuou just make empty accusations. reminder that you are a complete loser who believes that homeopathy does anything.
transtlantic 2 years ago
"It's completly moronic to try and compare both system. Nothing to do with each other, nothing."
Yes, they do. In both cases, human beings are injected with crap vaccines which are absolutelly useless, but harmful.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
No, they don't. One case military personal are given a needed measure to avoid possible biological weapon damage, with the best possible counter-measure that time and technology allowed for.
the other is a civilian measure, preventive care, with decades of trials, experience and safety test. Effective and safe.
btw...in all this talk you haven't presented one piece of evidence against pedicatric immuziation, none, while i have given plenty.
keep shouting nonsense, moron
transtlantic 2 years ago
"btw..."
Whatever. If you think vaccines are safe, have them. Let's see you have 10,000, because Dr Paul Proffit says that's how many can be safely given to a child. Do you believe him?
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
"have them"? i do. And children will have it to. You keep shouting "belief", when in science nothing is about belief, but understanding and empirical observations. I understand why vaccines are safe and effective. They just copy what our immune system does naturally and fill the gap when the IS can't fight certain diseases - they prevent.
what i question is why don't you understand the science behind vaccines? do you know what a B or T cell is? what an antibody is? or what a epitope is?
transtlantic 2 years ago
ah,new troll on the block! well i dont understand how u laymen of the vaccinationindustry keep urself as stupid as u have to be by ignoring the basis of all science: natural phenomenaSo please shut up about scientific 'proof', cause i just have enough of all ur shallowtalk based on statistical renderings which,as we scientific people ALL know r easily forced by biased minds and questions Antibody,epitope?just started ur study baby?Get back to the REAL phenomena and start asking genuine questions
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
as for science.. Science? isnt that that brand of human thinking that came up with .. lets say..Flogiston? I always liked that. U know why? Because it made we aware as a scientist to never bluntly believe in the absolute truth of scientific ideas. i am a dear believer in science as method to try penetrate that incredible world that we r part of, but not as that utilitairian bundle of absolutes as which it is used by, for instance, the poisonminglers of the vaccinationindustry.
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
and as for medicinefacts...to understand the flaw and sheer lies by the vaccinationlaymen, u better get some real knowledge and insight in the working and adaptation of statistical methods, cause thats the weapons they r fighting this war with, not biochemistry. So, back to your desk and start some real thinking!
cybeavertoo 2 years ago
so you want real "biochemistry". Do you think i am lay man? right.... let's give you analytical analysis then:
Pediatrics 121 (2): e20814.
and when you want more, please feel free to ask. you want 5, 10 or 30 papers where vaccine safety is tested with "biochemistry", "REAL phenomena" garanteed!!!!
lol, what a moron that you are... go buy more space cakes, it will do you good
transtlantic 2 years ago
And now lets expose more of your ignorance:
how can you say you like science when you have a complete misconception about it? sicence was never about "belief", but understanding and empirical observation.
what you believe is irrelevant. What exists can be understood, using science. But for that you need to learn how first. Something it is clear that you've never done...
get real cybeaver
transtlantic 2 years ago
"new"? i have been in the youtube far longer than you. Do you see how many logical falacies are you making?
so "epitope" is not "REAL phenomena"? right....
genuine question: did you ate to much space cakes today? seems so
transtlantic 2 years ago
Comparing military vaccines to the civilian vaccines is a wrong intelectual exercice, nothing to do between eachother. nothing.
And using a journalist with 0 education or qualification in a science area is another FAIL
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Comparing military vaccines to the civilian vaccines is wrong"
Not really. They're both biolgical warfare programmes. The only difference is that one is against civilians, causing harm to civilians, while the other is against against members of the armed forces, damaging government property, but they're both vandalism.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Yes really: you are a moron vax!!!!
why not talk about homeopathy?
It is based solely in pseudoscience, surpestition and pure ignorance of the users. It is simply water and people who use it are more ill and might die to not going seek proper medical care!!!!
What is "vandalism" is an ignorant person like you spreading strupidity around the web....
transtlantic 2 years ago
"homeopathy is based solely in pseudoscience"
You've got it confused with vaccination, transtlantic.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
homeopathy is based solely in pseudoscience, and you did not provide any evidence of otherwise.
let me clear about science behind vaccinations and how much they are needed:
Serologic response to measles-mumps-rubella vaccine among children with upper respiratory tract infection, PMID: 8782345, 1996
"MMR vaccination should not be delayed"
i can give more if you want. Why not some basics for you: Kuby, Immunology, Murray, Microbiology, have a nice reading
transtlantic 2 years ago
MF-59 is oil-based and composed of squalene, Tween 80 and Span85. All oil adjuvants injected into rats were found to be toxic. All rats injected developed a disease similar to multiple sclerosis which left them crippled and dragging their paralyzed hindquarters across their cages. (Kenney, RT. Edleman, R. Survey of human-use adjuvants, Expert Review of Vaccines, 2003 p171)
pondman27 2 years ago
funny how pondman27 presents a study where he chooses not to give the doses used.... maybe because the experiment was to verify the max dose?
if you ingest to much salt you die, simple experiment try it! but if you ingest no salt you also die! what will you do? hehe
what a joke that you are...
transtlantic 2 years ago
News:
A new report from a World Health Organization advisory group predicts that global production of vaccine for the novel H1N1 influenza virus could be as much as 4.9 billion doses a year, far higher than previous estimates. The new H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine is being made by the pharmaceutical company Novartis. It will contain MF59, a potentially debilitating adjuvant.
cont'd...
pondman27 2 years ago
MF59....another ingredient where toxicity is dose related!, again...perfectly safe at the doses used.
A lot more companies are making the H1N1 vaccine, my guess is that Baxter will sell it first.
transtlantic 2 years ago
transtlantic was challenged to retake the full course of vaccines contents of ethyl mercury and formaldehyde weeks ago.
It also advocates other insanities, GM foods and even fluoride.
Don't bother waisting your time with responsindg to him, you will achieve no real dialogue.
pondman27 2 years ago
Not the full course. I only need to take one, remember? you still promote the silly notion that toxicity is not dose related. Therefore only one shot is needed to disprove your silly idea.
I already have it schedulled, don't woory. Just remind yourself that you'll have a looooot of quackery to assume and things to remove from your profile.
GM foods is not insanity (actually most your food is probably GM already...)
Fluoride is needed to avoid tooth decay.
Bother in reading the papers i post.
transtlantic 2 years ago
You write such levels of BS, but no surprise there. Why limit it to one shot. LOL?
GM food is already responsible for many adverse effects on human health & the environment.
As for fluoride being a requisite for healthy teeth, another piece of utter garbage spews forth. We have been fluoride free for over five years and our teeth are fine. My grandfather was a dentist. It was from him & my grandmother that I learned of the importance of a quality diet. He passed away at the ripe old age of 98!
pondman27 2 years ago
Why limit to one shot? because i only need one at the moment and the swine flu shots haven't arrived yet. And your hypothesis only needs one shot to be disproven.
Evidence that GM food is responsible for "many adverse effects on human health"? none? thought so.
I never said that fluoride is a requisite for healthy teeth, just that it helps. You can't be fluoride free idiot. There is always natural exposition of it.
and you do know that science is dynamic....
transtlantic 2 years ago
Pediatrics 2006; 117:1028.
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Don't bother waisting your time with responsindg to him, you will achieve no real dialogue."
You're right. As Dr Herbert Shelton pointed out years ago: "Belief in immumization is a form of deluional insanity." That explains the irrational, delusional remarks transtlantic comes out with. Also, I suspect he is paid to place comments to attack people like us.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Dr what? lol Herbert Shelton had no scientific education!!!!!! come one.... you must know that using a chiropracter and naturapthic quack as an argument for authority is an epic fail....
the man had no idea what immunization is! so how can you use such person to support your quackery? quacks using other quacks? lol..... it's like using surpestition to try deny evolution!
you are a joke
transtlantic 2 years ago
If anyone wants to read what REAL experts and people who know have to say about vaccines, autism or anything else related to medical care:
vaccinesafety edu
and
sciencebasedmedicine org
plus talk to your physician
transtlantic 2 years ago
"plus talk to your physician"
Most of them are clueless, believing the medical-pharmaceutical propaganda that vaccines prevent diseases. They're useful idiots the drug companies use to peddle their toxic drugs, The fact that they will lower a fever with drugs shows how clueless they are.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
"clueless"? of what? the david icke polimorphic lizards? "of the conspiracy in the shadows"?!?!? :P
You keep not reading this: EMPIRICISM!!!!! you can replicate the method to verify what any person publishs.
I do know who is clueless: all those "naturapaths", "homeopaths", chiro, herblists,.... with not a clue about science, spreading quackery, that they give no evidence of working! those are the "killers", the frauds!
So you propose to lower fever with....prayer? hehe...you are such an idiot
transtlantic 2 years ago
"So you propose to lower fever with....prayer? hehe...you are such an idiot"
This statement shows that you are as clueless as most doctors. Fever is a very important immune defense against infection. Lowering a fever disables the immune system, allowing the infection free reign. Babies who supposedly die from "infectious diseases are often killed by the medical "treatments" such as lowering fever.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
The funny thing is that your statment was even more of a shown of ignorance and clueless..... as you did not answered to the question and avoided it.... and then making yourself look a fool, again!
Fever can kill. That's why it is lowered. And your IS promotes such fever. People used to die a lot before remedies to fight fever were found. AND YOU MORON, for thousands of years shamans, whatever ALSO fought fever because they knew it killed people with an infection!!!!
transtlantic 2 years ago
You are absolutely spot on. Having worked with water in living ecologies for more than thirty years, if there is one thing that stands out, it is that the temperature bandwidth for human pathogens is of paramount importance.
The psuedo science applied in so many areas seems to be incapable of seeing the importance of harmonic resonance. But there is hope, this evening I attended a meeting of scientists with specialist areas in bio-chemistry. The debates although heated reached agreement.
pondman27 2 years ago
What you have done in 30 years can accumulate to the equilivent of a chapter in a science book about water use....
"harmonic ressonance" IS the pseudoscience, not the other way around... you must live inside some anti-universe buble with different physical laws...
I can only wonder if you talked about your "harmonic ressonance ideas".... or you did and a lot of "bad vibes" started to "radiate from the ether" around you, unless by "bio-chemistry" meeting you meant Quack Homeopaths
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Quack Homeopaths"
At least homeopaths don't maim and kill babies under the pretext of preventing diseases. I have used homoeopathy to cure a case of shingles, as has a friend of mine. Homoeopathy works on babies and animals as well, so it can't just be a placebo effect as some claim. Unfortunately there is no allopathic or homoeopathic treatment that would cure your appalling ignorance.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Homeopaths do kill babies. Yhere a lot of youtube videos about such cases. watch?v=IEDYsI7lBd8 - its one of them.
Homeopthy can't do a thing!!!! it's physically impossible. It's just water. It's ALL placebo effect.
Wanna proof? the US spent 2.5 BILLION taxpayers dollars trying to verify if anything outside medicine workss - result: ALL of it is no better than a placebo!!!! homeopathy included. Check it, the report was published last month.
your quackery has not been exposed, moron
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Homeopaths do kill babies"
"Homeoopathy can't do a thing!!!!
So, how can it kill babies? This is a good illustration of a provaxers thinking processes, if you can call them that!
If homeopaths killed babies the way vaccines do, homoeopathy would have been banned a long time ago.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
So how can homeopathy kill babies 101:
this same example applies to the rest of the quackery - seen in the mother who let her diabetic child die because she thought prayer would be better than giving insulin, and more examples exist.
People have a problem, use quackery instead of seeking proper medical care --> they die
Vaccines haven't killed a person in decades, but diseases like HPV kill 11 women PER DAY. Or why not polio? more than 100 die per day due to polio.
don't be stupid
transtlantic 2 years ago
"Vaccines haven't killed a person in decades"
Hey everyone!!! Google 'Ian's Voice' to find out what an ignorant fool or what a liar transtlantic is. But then, I guess you knew or suspected that already.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
lol..... yes, trust a parent who was complelty explored by anti-vaccination quacks.... in no place is proof that the vax was the cause of death. it's an assumption based by a parent in despair to blame whatever!
so why not google:
sciencebasedmedicine org
vaccinesafety edu
why listen to quackery when you can ask people who know directly?
transtlantic 2 years ago
"in no place is proof that the vax was the cause of death"
Babies get vaccinated, then die. Antibiotics can cause fatal reactions as well, as can peanuts, or bee stings, in some people, so why not vaccines? Are vaccines magically excluded? Grow a brain.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
"Babies get vaccinated, then die"
evidence?
vaccine allergic reactions are less than 1 per million people, and like bee stings and can peanuts the vast majority of the reactions are mild.
grow another eye, a brain and then take the time to actually read about immunology and other basic sciences, moron
transtlantic 2 years ago
Frankly, I can't be bothered arguing with you. I have better things to do with my time. Like spreading the news that criminal charges have been filed against the WHO and an international corporate crime syndicate including vaccine manufacturers to carry out a mass genocide against the people of the United States by using an artificial (genetic) flu pandemic virus.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
lol...your time is completly wasted in stupidity.....
i'll tell you the result of your entire work: a laugh at your face by ALL, except the rest of your "bunker friends"!
the flu is artificial? lol.... what's next? creationism? or the theme of the next is aids denialism?
lolololol, what a joke
transtlantic 2 years ago
"the flu is artificial?"
I didn't say this. I'm just repeating what the document stated that was used to file criminal charges with the FBI, against the WHO, the CDC, vaccine manufacturers, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others, for conspiring to create a deadly flu pandemic by means of a genetically engineered flu virus and imposing mandatory vaccination on the US population.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
lol.... a "document to file criminal charges", doesn't mean guilty or conclusive evidence of criminal activity.
I can file a criminal charge against you, for conspiracy. You have a twisted sense of reality vax... very twisted....
you should seek psychiatric help...
transtlantic 2 years ago
"vaccine allergic reactions are less than 1 per million people"
That's the magic Mickey Mouse figure, like the CDC's alleged 36000 US flu deaths each year, which the BMJ has exposed as a fabrication. What a farce. It alwas amuses me that grown up, supposedly intelligent and well-educated people like doctors fall for such obvious junk science.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
more empty accusations against the CDC , use of BMJ, that is only used as support when it fits your delusion.You are the typical psychiatric patient with a paranoia disorder.... no wonder you believe in homeopathy....
read this: "A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Autism", Volume 347:1477-1482, November 7, 2002, NEMJ, more than 500000 children studied
Conclusions This study provides strong evidence against the hypothesis that MMR vaccination causes autism.
transtlantic 2 years ago
"read this:"
Read this:
"Are US flu death figures more PR than science?" BMJ
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
For any of you coming to this video, I strongly suggest that you watch the comments posted by the entity transtlantic. He is a deceiver & not what he claims to be. Indeed he may well be sponsored by nthe Eugenicists who are now unleashing the bio-weapons upon humanity, for as we can readily see, the established medical fraternities are a party to these insanities.
watch?v=JifM4Uksss0&feature=email
pondman27 2 years ago
"eugenicists"? lololol
so medicine increased life span of the Human specie, reduced young death to levels never seen in just less than 100 yars compared to 250000 years of existence as a specie.... (history: life expectancy before 20th century London: 45-50 years, now? more than 75, btw...before the 19th centure Lexpectancy was lower than 40)
medicine is the biggest anti-eugenic science there is! you moron!
you are no doubt the strongest advocate for quackery and nonsense....
transtlantic 2 years ago
"medicine increased life span of the Human species"
That's what they want us to believe. Medicine had little or nothing to do with it. Read medcial historian Thamas McKeown. The drop in deaths from inf diseases was due mostly to improved living conditions such as clean water and housing and better nutrition.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
The persistent use of alopathic chemicals ensures that whilst symptoms may be alleviated (the only thing that your average GP seems to be capable of) the recipient called a patient (because that is what they must be) is practiced upon.
For any interested in longevity and the truth of lifespans, research the diet & lifestyle of the people of Okinowa
pondman27 2 years ago
"alopathic" a word created by quacks. hehe
you idiot. You must think that the vitamins you by in the "natural pharmacy" are made "naturally".... Or why not stop producing insulin? even though it is exactly the same from what the human body produces.... Or why not stop giving iodine for thyroid problems?
Okinowa people, are just like the incas or the centenary italian island: genes plus isolation. Put them in the REAL world and they die due to common infection, unless there is a doctor around..
transtlantic 2 years ago
Was it? lol vax... you are such a moron....
The incas had "improved living conditions", "clean water", "good housing" and "good nutrition", the moment their society come into contact with other cultures: BAM, all dead. Not just killed by the spanish, but by HUGE epidemics from simple diseases.
get real you moron
transtlantic 2 years ago
What are these vaccines doing to human DNA?
statesRcountries 2 years ago
they don't do a thing to your DNA
transtlantic 2 years ago
Just look around you. In increasing numbers, you will see human beings who have been damaged. The fullest reactions to these corruptions can be witnessed over the life span, considerations never included by these sick twisted maniacs. Look up tetragenic compounds, there are many.
I have a brother in law, who just over a year ago, underwent surgery on his spine, he is now within days of meeting his maker through the assaults of the chemicals injected & ingested by him.
pondman27 2 years ago
what are these vaccines doing to human DNA?
statesRcountries 2 years ago
No doubt money is to be made, but that does not mean vaccines do not WORK!!! There is a reason why Polio, Rubella, Smallpox, etc, have been virtually wiped out in our country ... Let me give you a hint... VACCINES! They save lives, period. For non-believers, why don't you take your kids and live in a 3rd world country where vaccines are hard to come by... see if your kids are safer there. Take it from a health professional, the benefits outweigh the potential costs!!!
MatthewRider1 2 years ago
"No doubt money is to be made"
Indeed. Vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise disguised as disease prevention. Vaccines have never protected anyone, let alone saved anyone's life. it's a multi-billion dollar con job only morons believe in. No offense meant! I used to be one myself!
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
lots of talk, no evidence from you. just nonsense, ad hominem and insults....
you were always a brainwashed ignorant sheep
transtlantic 2 years ago
"you were always a brainwashed ignorant sheep"
Yes, but unlike you, I have woken up from the propganda-induced delusional insanity whch is the belief in vaccination.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
you just proved my point when you admited that you are an ignorant sheep. If you are such you have never woken up.
science is not about "belief", but about understanding an empirical observations.
You live inside a fence of ignorance...
transtlantic 2 years ago