20 ft Hovering Autorotations in the Mosquito XE Helicopter

[pookysgrl]

how do you get the training to fly it if you buy one??

[reddog418]

You are a beast.

[bliglum]

Wise man. Practicing those autos!

[darraghryancork]

Does anybody know if this carries enough weight and wing surface to perform a successful air flow auto?

[scoe415]

Great machine, great pilot. Awesome video.

[rockinar]

Loved John Snider in The Dukes of Hazzard.

[rhoddity]

Haha, "Look ma' no hands!" All hail King Snider! =P

[Classic63EType]

I personally might have some reservations about flying something so small if I did not see this video beforehand. I really was impressed and the pilot does a first rate job of demonstrating not only his expertise and technique, but clearly demonstrates the capabilities of this little machine. Well done and well presented indeed! Yes, for what it is worth, I do fly helicopters for a living, but I have never flown one that was a homebuilt or kit type such as this. It sure looks like great fun!

[tekdekid]

sounds like a lawmower at first lol

[string11]

Sorry, but it doesn't count when you start descending before you cut the power. The FAA requires a full 1 second delay between power cut and any collective movement in standard category certification testing. Obviously the whole point of being able to autorotate is incase the engine quits. And when the engine quits I doubt you are going to know about it before it happens. Now try it without cheating...

[Quillons1]

Nice 180 Auto! Dude is no joke! This was fun to watch

[121168]

smoothest i have ever seen one of these fly, very well built flown very well, top marks to whoever built it and the pilot who flew it

[miguelalbertzulueta]

Hover auto with enough inertia to pick it up and turn it 45 degrees and set it back down. Can't do that in an R-22. Can in a 206. Does this mean you have a "semi-high" inertia blade system?

[Mlagersson]

its not a autorotation. Autorotation is when the force of the wind (caused by fast decent) turns the rotorblade. What we are seeing is a engine failure from the hover. piece of cake

[aseglkj]

@Mlagersson Uh no, dumbass, autorotaion means using the inertia of the rotor to slow the fall of the helicopter. When you have an engine failure you slam the collective down, so the rotor won't slow down. Now, as you fall, the rotor might speed up due to the airflow ... it doesn't matter, as long as it's above a certain rpm. When you get near the ground, you pull up on the collective, trading the energy of the turning rotor for thrust to stop your fall.

[Quillons1]

@Mlagersson You have no idea what a hovering auto is then. This is called a Hovering Auto. Try reading a book. I recommend the Rotorcraft Flying Handbook by the FAA.

[dropkickmurphy01]

@Mlagersson an autorotation occurs any time the engine rpm percentage is less than the rpm of the main rotor. the engine disengages from the main driveshaft via the sprag clutch. anytime the rotor is freewheeling, it is an autorotation. this includes hovering autos.

[nocalsteve]

@Mlagersson "Autorotation" can be either from air flow or rotor inertia. If the engine fails in a hover, it's still "autorotating" from inertia.

[scoe415]

@Mlagersson Clown.

[TURBOMAGNUM]

That was Awsome!

[xrlk72]

that little thing is stable no stick hovering like that wow

[ding0925]

SERIOUS SMOOTH!!!!

[LarryCanFly]

Is the collective/throttle correlator disabled?

[piacono]

Amazing skills mate. Oh and a brilliant piece of kit. The fact it is so stable, agile and safe should help you sell a Load of these.

As SCOM777 says though I would be much more likely to be tempted if I knew I had a ballistic parachute above my head as a backup.

Good Luck and a great video.

[SCOM777]

Very impressive John. Haven't seen that much control over one of these things. Allmost makes me want one! Can't get over the threat of sheading parts in flight though. Ballistic chute would probably sell me!!

[learning41230]

Great demo flight. Thank you.

[mattkreps123]

this is not a reflection of this helicopters h/v diagram because he is lowering the collective when he rolls off the throttle. the low hover point on the h/v requires that you don't lower the collective. still very impressive

[cambike]

OMG Jock, love the control!

[bucknaked466f]

wow. the 20ft hover autos are intense. i hate having to do them at all in the R22. Awesome pilot.

[biglhot75]

That is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time. Awesome video

[wheeliehome]

whats the engine from a lawnmower. good flying :)

[bliglum]

That would be one crazy lawnmower!! sounds more snowmobile-ish to me.

[oceanchaser]

I think this is so funny seeing people argue over such stupid stuff bcecause there ego gets hurt . Who has a licence and who does not who cares . This is about autorotation nothing about you. grow up

[xrimerx]

i was wondering if you could define autorotaion??? i seen what happens but i dont kno the principles???

[bucknaked466f]

an autorotation is when the rotors are disengaged from the engine and instead of being turned by the motor, the rotors are turned by the airflow traveling through the rotor system as the helicopter descends.

[oceanchaser]

the man is good with autorotation that takes some practice and skill good job well done.

[jock150]

That thing drops like a rock.............

[Howad83]

Vary good, Post more vids........

Do you still have this heli.

[driftability]

Sounds like my damn pocket bike!!.

[lwblack64]

These are real autogyro landings, rest assured. They arent fake, phoney or anything that what you see. What makes it look easy is the competance of a well learned pilot.

[Mockeraina]

ur a joke

[Mockeraina]

No fucking shit i know u don't need a license, My dad is a Commercial Helicopter and Fixedwing pilot. So You can talk like u know what ur talking about, ENJOY THE MAGIC!

[KoolWire]

Dude you're such a fricking turd, big tough guy on the internet but most likely a puss face to face. Shut your trap and go away and bob on your Daddys goober some more.....

[mdfoster1970]

You need to go ask Daddy to explain what weight and balance is before you go running your mouth about what it or isn't a helicopter or how to fly a helicopter.

[Mockeraina]

Fuck that, Turbine Helicopters are better, why waste my time asking questions bout gay piston helicopters.

[Howad83]

Enough commplaning, Say whats 21D is that lake elmo?????

[Mockeraina]

OH and one other thing. In REAL helicopters, you DON'T LET GO of the controls (Cyclic, collective, Anti-torque Pedals are another story). But YOU DO NOT let go of the controls, WHY? Because a REAL helicopter doesn't want to fly, you need to make it fly. SO if you Mr. Magicfreak123 were flying a real helicopter and took ur hands off the Cyclic, you'd crash. SO that being said, this IS NOT a REAL helicopter.

[PersonalRotorcraft]

Mockeraina, I assure you there is no attempt at trickery in this video. I am simply demonstrating the stability of the Mosquito helicopter. My knees are not touching the cyclic. It is simply a weight shift manuever, that is why you see me kind of leaning off to the left side the whole time my hand if off cyclic to counter translating tendency. I simply position body to find cg neutral, ease hand off stick, then svery slightly lean in the direction I want the chopper to move. (continued)

[PersonalRotorcraft]

I have owned 2 different Schweizer 300C, a Bell 47-G2, and a Brantly B2B. I have over 13000 hours total flight time about 1600 of which is in rotorcraft. I know a real helicopter when I am in one and this is one very small, very stable, REAL helicopter. It autos exactly like a S300C but has more blade inertia (relatively speaking) for the touchdown. It can be hovered hand off cyclic because the pilot can position himself directly on cg. Very fun, inexpensive, and capable little helicopter.

[Mockeraina]

Thanks PersonalRotorcraft, I respect you. Unlike the dickheaded "Magicfreak123" you know what your talking about. Sweet, u've owned 2 300C's and 47! Keep up the flying! I look towards people like you as a role model. And thanks for not being a dick like "Magicfag".

[Mockeraina]

Go and do some magic fag. Guarantee i know more bout helicopters then you. OH and buddy, even if he was using pedal, he could only turn left and right the the pedals allow. BUT since he's moving in a forward and also sometimes in a sideways motion he's obviously using he's cyclic with his knees

[Mockeraina]

Why would i do some research on a helicopter like that, maybe research on a real helicopter like the Bell 407. Researching a Mosquito would be a waste of time. Get a real helicopter like a Robinson or Schweizer. OR if u have the money, Bell.

[Mockeraina]

He cyclic with his knees, just like u can drive a car with your knees.

[Mockeraina]

NO shit no hand on the cyclic. He's got his Knees on it.

[ErasmusIII]

Why don't helicopters use wheels with shocks/struts instead of stiff skids?

[REVOSICKNESS]

BS!!!! He's so screwing with the throttle!! LIARS!!!

[PersonalRotorcraft]

I am the pilot in this video, the slight rev up of the engine that you may hear at the moment of touchdown is due to the collective/throttle correlator starting to lift the carburator slides off of idle when more than about 1/3 collective is pulled. That little amount of rev up however is not anywhere near enough to reengage the sprag clutch to the rotor. It is simply free wheeling as it from the moment that I roll the throttle to idle. No gimmicks here.

[Terrorbloom]

How much is one? and where can I get one? this thing is cool.

[capsaicinrain]

unassembled, they cost just under $30,000. if you have a heli pilots license, you get about $2,000 off the price. You can order it pre-assembled, but i believe that costs an extra 5 to 6 thousand.

[no1stunna456]

Why dont you do a little web research ass wipe!

[capsaicinrain]

What the hell is your problem you condescending fuck. I was basically right, I left out all the optional crap.

[bossturbo]

no1stunna was replying to Terrorbloom since he asked a question that would take 10 seconds to find out on google

[JUKIO01]

hey soo, question. what happens if the engine fails way up there? are there like procedures? cause i know autogyro or gyrocopters they just glide down to the ground, what about helicopters?

[spidey692003]

the higher it is the safer it is. more time to get into autorotaion and set up for a proper approach, pick somewhere to land, call your mayday's out, turn fuel, mags etc off. lower down gives less time for any of the above if any at all at these heights, doesnt matter for auto's or practise engine failures but real engine failure.... there's more to do inside the cockpit.

Hope this helps

[siresoul2]

they fall

[JUKIO01]

i like the look of the helicopter without the shell

[behindthenothing]

How do these Handle compared to say an R22 flight characteristic? Also in an R22 Beta 2 you have 1.2 seconds to drop collective after an engine failure, what time do you have in this helicopter?

[spidey692003]

I would say less time than the 22 looking at the blades, they dont look like they hold much inertia.

Also the 1.2 seconds is speculation to a point, some instructors told me 0.8 seconds. If you good though, one instructor told me 4-5 seconds! obviously not believing him, we went up and sure enough he kept rotor rpm up for about 3-4 seconds without lowering the collective at all. just kept flaringing it every 1-2 seconds to load the disk, works until your airspeed drops to much to flair.

[behindthenothing]

yeah i'm pretty sure the .8 figure was before robinson added the 2 lb tip weights

[R1Kyle]

The ability to do an auto from 20 feet agl from a hover speaks volumes of the blade inertia. There are very very very few heli's I would even think about trying that in from that altitude. And I am talking some expensive rotor craft.

[rodstartube]

nearly blowing tail rotor while almost landing

[flyguy4fun]

but he didn't

[EnigmaNZ1]

Over here the R22 is used for everything from deer recovery to herding on the big stations, as well as lifting. They get a hard life, some are bound to crash. This is kewl. $30k is really cheap, check out a Rotoway, another kitcopter, even an older one goes for several times this ammount. Will look up the website, but is this a foriegn design or local.

[Louvet22]

Je suis un pilote avec pas mal d'heures de vol... je trouve certains commentaires plus haut un peu tristes... Ce petit hélico me semble une pure merveille et ses capacités en autortation en font une machine sure. Je volerais avec plaisir et sans stress sur cette machine. Bravo au concepteur.

[flyguy4fun]

you suck frenchman,this heli is sweet and it,s canadian unlike you.

[gabe45freshRAPER]

how much is tht helicopter?

[MosquitoAviation]

About $30,000

[gabe45freshRAPER]

thx, and is it hard to fly because i am taking flying lessons for helicopter

[WaterCow12]

well apparently he is not talking -_-

so i was watching Daily Planet (show) and it showed this, and this actually supposed to be very easy to fly, it only has like 6 controls

[MaverickHunter75]

damn, that's pretty good for a personal heli like that. i was expecting it to be more! nice!

[multicatlicker]

@MosquitoAviation oh crap i want one but i dont have the money

[josh132132]

@MosquitoAviation how much is the helicopter in British sterling please? and what is the range on that helicopter? does it use aviation fuel or normal petrol?

[PersonalRotorcraft]

This is John Snider. If anyone would like a video of over 2 hours and 9 minutes showing preflight through complete maneuvers demonstration with helmet, control, and ground views of each, visit the Mosquito website and scroll to "John Snider's Maneuvers DVD Now Available" on the home page.

[Classic63EType]

I have approximately 3,000 hours as an instructor in the R-22 and I have found it to be a very reliable and durable aircraft when flown within its limitations. I have done more full touchdown autorotations

in them then I care to think about, and all of my students are still alive and well and some have even gone on to fly professionally. Most people who have never flown an R-22 for more than 30 minutes, haven't had the chance to fully appreciate its capabilities.

[JoshMichael]

I had one for three years....2 years 11 months in flat lands. The last month I had it in the appalachain mountains of NC...I sold it three days after getting into a down draft at the pinnacle of Mt. Mithchel at 6,864 ft on a cool fall day....it's a great helicopter at sea level....and will be better if they give the option of a cyclic between the legs!

[180autorotation]

The R22 is a great helicopter at sea level.  When you get up to 5000 feet with a density altitude of 7000 feet you tend to rethink your flight options.

[cberau]

haha or a cessna 172 at 5035 feet da 7500. downdrafts are scary at kprc when it's that hot

[geobrklyn]

its a good toy but you are making the motor work to hard,may be you shold put tranny in it

[b101aa2]

It's a nice little helicopter. Was thinking about it until I saw the price tag of $30,000. Maybe $10,000 is more what I thought it would run rtf, even with a rotax.

[rcheliboy]

Its not that much compared to some cars

[edcoondog]

it's not bad considering an r-22 is over $200,000

[b101aa2]

I wouldn't buy an r-22, which has nothing to do with price. eek.

[edcoondog]

r-22s get a bad rap because they look cheesy and flimsy. i thought they were crap untill i flew in one. they're really well built for what they are. they all do take a beating and hold up pretty well.

[13snoopy]

I've owned three R22's and they were all great helis.

Somehow I doubt you'll ever have to concern yourself over buying one. Stick to your RC's.

[b101aa2]

I own a C182 and an RV6. Have 1,900 hours, ifr, twin, and light jet. Stick to your rookie copter and stop bashing others. RC. My toys cost more then your car. Cheers

[13snoopy]

Whoppeee! You own a Cessna and a "model/kit" airplane.

How many hlicopters do you own? LOL

Ps

No, your toys do not cost more than my cars.

I own a Porsche, a 740IL BMW and an H2 Hummer.

If I were you I'd find out who I was replying to BEFORE I replied.

And I own an R44 Robinson as well.

Go back to your cheap planks.

[b101aa2]

Actually, I don't think you own any of the above, since you just had to work in that you own 3 expensive vehicle as well, just to boost your ego a bit. Stick to your fantasy land and I will stick to my fixed wing aircraft. As for this video, an ultralight rotor wing aircraft is pretty cool. Which if you know rotor wing or aviation even in the slightest, you know what an RV6 is and would have mocked it too, noob.

[13snoopy]

Why the heck do you think I called it (RV6) a model/kit plane for, moron?

As I said at the top, you don't know or fly nor own helicopters so you should stop putting down Robbie's since you obviously have ZERO experience in any helicopters.

[b101aa2]

don't know what gave you some inclination of commenting me, but if you are a cw3 you definitely just made yourself look like a dumb*ss.

[mweezy]

Don't worry man, GSXnGSXRnJeff is just a douche!!!

[b101aa2]

he don't bother me any. just another child on here trying to act like something he's not. i ahve more time in rotors then he has, and i am not even licensed for rotors. fixed wing time, 3,500+ hrs. As for cw3... well, look at his little vid's. he isn't even old enough for cw3. cw1 yes, cw3, he's has 5+ more yrs to go. cheers

[mweezy]

I don't believe none of your shit!!!! LOL

You claim to own a Lambo and a Ferrari but then you only upload a video of an old Mitsubishi Eclipse on Youtube. LOL

[siresoul2]

what is a CW3 and what is OH-58D i might have seen one before but i forgot thanks

[GSXnGSXRnJeff]

CW3 is a Chief Warrant Officer for the Army. OH-58 is a Kiowa. OH-58D is a Kiowa Warrior equipped with LRS and other cool systems.

[siresoul2]

oh ok so it is a helicopter thank you

[R1Kyle]

Your an idiot... 10g... even a new 503 rotax almost costs that much. You can spend more then that on a RC plane, even though you made many comments about how rich and famous you are I would have to say your somewhere close to trailer trash.

[Rakete64]

...that`s pretty cool, did`nt know that there`s someone who builds such a small one person helicopter!!

Someday, when I´m big and rich I`ll buy one!!!

[helicopterR22]

yeah no kidding man,mr badx do you even know anything about helicopters-actually engines for that matter. a two strokes power curve generally provide MBH at a considerably higher rpm than any four stroke. there designed to run wide open,lol look at a kx125!lol. light weight,super low intertia i imagine, but it autos like crazy

[Eldelacuchuca]

I want one of those!!!! an R44 would be nice too... hehe

[MosquitoAviation]

Actually the engine is not even in the red line. The MZ202 has so far proved bullet proof. take a look at the data on our website about the engine and helicopter.

[mrbadx19]

must be like zero durability on that poor little engine, it has to scream to get that thing airborn, getting that thing airborn would be like driving my car 100mph all day. engine size and gearing is totally wrong!

[Rafswitch]

an autorotation is the ability to land with out engine power,in other words the helicopter's rotorhead windmills and as descrived obove lands succesfully with out any help from the engine

[hockeyi721]

you guys need some vids from inside the cockpit! that would be awesome

[ajcrm125]

What is a hovering autorotation? And when would it be used in flight?

Thanks.

[rchelifreak]

Simply an auto while hovering.

[ajcrm125]

I'm a total helo noob. What's an 'auto'?

[rchelifreak]

Basically shutting the motor down to idle and landing off of the momentum of the rotor blades and adjusting the pitch. Look at some of my newer videos and you'll see it on a smaller scale;-)

[Stephen1547]

Well, technically there is no such thing as a hovering auto. Induced flow does not drive the rotor when you loose an engine in the hover, you just have to use the inertia of the rotor system to cushion the landing.