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  • Those of you who don't believe in Betty then at least read what Mahtob herself has said. She remembers her father beating her mother and has spent most of her life, even as an adult, hiding from him, not wanting contact with him. If he's telling the truth, why don't his daughter want to see him? Is she lying too?

  • if you live in a islamic country and know their mentality, specially coming from a western mentality country, you DO believe in her version. I also believe that he suffers from beeing far away from his daughter, but after he kept her there without her willing, he was asking for the situation he passt through.

  • wait don't tell me... this is a movie defending that guy..

  • Mahmoody went nuts....for whatever reason

  • This man is probably going delusional in his old age....Or more plausibly, he has always lived in denial of what he has done...I mean there is one thing that stays true : he has forced her and the daughter to stay in Iran against their will.

  • i think that both lied in the end

  • Note the womans response who Betty has written about in the book. "I still can't believe this was Betty written a book like that". She is not denying the events, all she talks about how other women felt upset with Betty writing the book and that it made things "worse". Also note her nervous laughs. Textbook case of deflection the events written about are most likely true.

  • What it boils down to is that this woman was given no choice. She was amazingly brave and she protected her daughter from growing up in terrible conditions. Speaking as a daughter who has not seen her father in years for similar reasons, children remember. If she had wanted to, or had any reason to, give him a chance to be in her life, she would have been able to as an adult. If he was as loving a man as he is attempting to portray himself, he wouldn't have lied and kept her in Iran.

  • As an Iranian, I am more apt to side with Betty Mahmoody's story, though a lot of the details in the book were biased and not taking into account several issues related to Iran in the mid 1980s.

    Anyways, I do believe Dr. Mahmoody did try to at least keep their daughter, Mahtob, there against Betty's will and during the mid 1980s at the time of the Iran-Iraq war, Iran was no place to raise your american born child. She had every right to take him from her.

  • he looks mean.... and like rest of others I too don't understand what prevented him from going to US to meet his daughter if he loved her so much.. I read the book and the woman has gone thru a lot of problems .

  • he has a technical legal point - Betty did kidnap Mahtob - so in law, shes the abductor. Iranians have plenty baths and their food rates among the best in the world. He woulda have been better off tracing Mahtob thru Bettys tours etc.

  • He can play the saint all he wants, but the bottom line is this--everyone was told they were going away for 2 weeks only. The fact that they did not come back is the big giant red flag that something was off about the situation. If it was truly just a simple vacation, they would have returned. The fact that it took 18 months for her to get out of these proves he never planned to leave. Why are people so blind to that??

  • Generally, people are going to believe Betty. This documentary is full of Iranian interviewees or people that agree with their oppressed ways and god-awful culture. This documentary has made absolutely no difference in my opinion of the situation. I feel no sympathy to the "good" doctor. The facts within the story are all in debate and I think its stupid to even consider them because the main facts are: She was held against her will. She could not go home without Mahtob.

  • It is a shame he didnt have peace with his ex-wife and daugter before he died. It tells me more about his side of the story by his statement that his only sin was loving his daughter or something like that. It stinks of lies. Everyone has regrets about how they handle relationships and ending relationships. I would accept there are two sides to every story, but his lack of any regrets tells me more.

  • Ok this is sad but he deserved it for being such a mean guy who only wants to boss around I think his daughter is better without him come on 20 yrs that's so over the limit

  • I think Dr. Mahmoody probably died of a broken heart more than anything.

  • Why did he not leave a message? he don't sound too desperate to make a connection

  • Alfred Molina looks nothing like that man. o.O

  • is this the real movie or just a documentary?

  • estupido7490 he is banned from America and can't talk to her by phone or else he would go to jail.

    And her mother cant go to Iran either.

  • well i guess he learn his lesson if he just stayed in America he would have seen he's daughter everyday

  • @CrazyAsianMan18

    yea rite, BS

  • @CrazyAsianMan18 Thumbs up!

  • If he had come to this country, he could have seen his daughter in a reasonable way. He could have talked with his ex-wife, filed for common assets. Of course the other American women are going to deny it. They will be BEATEN by their husbands if they don't.

  • Why would he wait 20 yrs to call his daughter. I mean he should have done this a long time ago but he waits for cameras to roll. I think something happened and his daughter witnessed it. My mom was in an abusive relationship when i was around 5 or 6 and that isnt something you 4get... so there is a reason why she never found him. Its not like she didn't know about him, her mom wrote a book and people still talk about it today

  • Let us not judge Mahtob to much!

    She might have a good reason to not want to see her father.

  • My english is to bad to understand this Documentary but it will be great to see both sides. Did somebody knows if its possible to look the film in german or with german subtitle?

  • I am so sorry about the passing of Moody. I always noped his daughter would at least send him a picture or someting. May his soul be at rest. Forgiving can be a new lifeline.

  • Um... why didn't he just go back to the US to see her?

  • well if ure father hit you in the past, and stuff. Then you dont want to see your dad i guess.

    I DONT KNOW WHATS TRUE SO>......:S

  • @estupido7490 because of 2 reasons first the FBI and the CIA were chasing him

    and second he needed betty Authorization to go to america

  • Thank you for this video, it was important to me from the beginning to get to know both sides, and it makes me so sad, what had to suffer through this poor and broken man. Rest in peace Dr. Sayed Mahmoody!

  • to aneigenete the joint family property and thousands of dollars with their book deserves to prohibit the courts and the contact of Dr. Mahmoody with her & her daughter had (...) But as I said, look at the document read, the Koran, speak to Muslims, read books about the Arab world, traveling the country & makes you only an opinion about today's "leftovers" of a former empire, despite the Quran & Islam or perhaps because of, one of the most highly developed culture of its time in the world had!

  • One can not read a book and order by which a human being, let alone a whole nation or a religion!? You might even prefer a picture of the country, the culture and looks sure to Documentation with and about Dr. Mahmoody to make you a picture of the other side can(!)

    But frankly, I think more like an old record highly intelligent man who desperately tries to contact his now adult daughter, as a woman who was not speaking for the makers of the documentary (...)

  • she was six years of age and she was a baby? she might not know that her father is a physician???? He talks about his daughter like she is retarded...just comes to show he has no case.

  • In the end it was Mahtob's choice whether to speak or see her father again. She knew where he lived, she knew what he does, I don't blame her either way. It was her decision; she was really put through such abuse that no child should ever have to endure.

  • @JediGoddessChristy I agree, if the daughter wanted to see her father when she was of age, she was more then able to do so, despite the negative or positive assumptions she might have had.

  • @Glahnnia You know by then she had been posioned against him. Plus there is a cottage industry in dumping on Islam and Islamic socities in any way.

  • its very sad that he didnt get to see his daughter before he died but if you take someone against thier will to a strange land on a lie, its not going to turn out ok!! why should betty have lied about what happened? why would she risk her life and that of her daughter to leave if she wasnt desperate?it doesnt make sense

  • I can understand both sides of the story but if he really loved his daughter, and family was the most important thing to him he would have gone back to the US for them. Sad he didn't get 2 see his daughter

  • He was denied a Visa because of what he did. He was labeled as high risk. Honestly his actions were wrong, if he really wanted a healthy relationship with his daughter then he wouldn't have acted in the way he did by tricking your family and betraying their trust only to mentally abuse them, especially right in front his daughter. I think he lost the privilege to be father to her a long time ago and that was his guilt to live with.

  • He brought it on himself, if he hadn't done what he did, none of this would have happened.

  • Bias American, you are just listening to one side of the story.

  • Forget the fact that he's accused of beating abusing and locking her up for weeks at a time. We'll say that that part isn't true (even though their daughter has repeatedly spoken in public confirming all this and more), we'll say that Betty lied about all that. The fact of the matter is that she and her daughter both American citizens were forced to stay in a strange country against their will. They met, married and concieved in the US that is where they should have stayed. Id have done the same

  • All with all a very tragic story for all parties. No one wins here. Even though the father has done terrible things, it is still Mahtob's father.

  • oh no, he died? without seeing his daughter???

  • At the end of all our lives what really matters is who loves us and who we love, it doesn't matter anymore what we have done, good or bad. All together this is very tragic story, for all parties, but the real victim is Mahtob. She will have to live with the fact that she has lost her father, even though he did very bad things, it was still her father.

  • Exactly but in a interview herself Mahtob said her father had changed and that she had already grieved the loss of him a long time ago. She and her mother now go around the world speaking about domestic violence and abuse. Even until her father's death Mahtob said she still feared he was trying to kidnap her. Her father made his bed a long time ago and from what Mahtob said she has moved on with her life and both her and her mother are trying to make a difference by helping other victims.

  • Betty Mahmoodi is such a big liar and what ever she wrote about Iran in her book is lie. maybe she wants to revenge from some body in Iran.

  • People do anything for money. It makes sense what her friend said that how can she travel through that long journey in the mountains with a child. It's difficult for women to do that. In a strange place with no facilities. And miliatry surveilance all around. The man who helps her in the movie tells her that it's the most dangerous area at that time when they travel.

  • @TheMrszahra her husband maybe?

    You know when you read her book, you know it is how she experienced it, so maybe it is exagerated, but she did went throught terrible things and others women did too; What her husband did to her is unforgivable;

    Personaly reading, this book, i didn't get the impression that she generalized... ..try to understand her..and at this time Iran was in a very dark and trouble periode.

  • One thing I don't understand!

    Why in this documentary he doesn't tell us that he returned to America to find his daugther or speaking to the USA police that Betty kidnapped his daughter right when she left????

    If he complains about Betty taking his money then why he didn't returned to the USA to claim his money right away???

    He could return to America to solve many problems there, but instead he just stood there and cried for his daughter!

  • @comaster2

    in the book it states that since his green card expired he could not return to the us without his wifes permission. also betty had been in cotact with the state department through the swiss embassy for months. who is the state department going to trust an american citizen who has been in contact with the state department for months or an iranian?

  • I mean if the daughter also claim about the abuse of the father we have proves that all that the mother said was true. And even if the mother lies is Mahtop decision if the wants to see her father,,

  • my religion teacher taught Mahtob when she was a sophomore in high school.

  • People. I'm not Irainian but come on. not all iranians are bad. I'm a Divorced father and my Ex mad me out to be a Monster , but now that they are older they see i am not that stuff my Ex made me to be. # 2 with a Movie like that do you think the will allow that man back into this country. # 3 it's a Hollywood Movie. they have to make the Movie Iteresting. Money , Money! of course his daughter was afraid of him , they made him out a Monster. Careful I'm Mexican , i carry swine flu,RUN! lol.

  • i´m sorry very much for him, but his daugther and his wife, refused to have any contact with him. Why? because they have fear to him....

    this man is not very good like he´s saying....

  • He should have never taken them to Iran in the first place! What the hell was he thinking?

  • Mahtob shared a dorm room with my niece. She was a delightful and very intelligent young woman. She had no desire to be in touch with her father again. She was watched, their phone was bugged, she was afraid of him and feared being taken against her will.

  • @boano1027 i dont blame her!!......

  • I have read that his daughter, Mahtob, refused to have any contact with him.

  • @debrandom

    In a situation where the mtther kidnaps the daughter and her father is portrayed as a cruel and bad guy, the daughter may refuse to see her father because she wants to make her mother happy.

    This is very sad situation. I think the father got too much punishment. The mother got not only daughter but also the property of Mr Mahmoody. She also made a lot of money by selling this book.

  • @debrandom

    If the daughter lives with the mother who hates her father how can the daughter want to see her father ? The daughter will always take care of wish of her mother.

    If Mahmoody had been an american he would have sued her wife for writing such book and there would have been no such film either

  • I cannot believe he even had the cheek to appear on screen........im sure parts of the book were fabricated.. that is always the way .. but the majority is true ! ! !

    He is nasty, may he rot in hell !!!! Najess Saag !!!

  • As an Iranian who grew up in Tehran I can tell you that everything she said about Iranian culture and life in Tehran was a lie. Knowing that this aspect of the book was untrue I can't help but seem sceptical about her relationship claims. Instead of believing everything that is fed to why not do some research an assess the validity of claims. And always remember that there are two sides to ever story.

  • i would take it not as "what she said about persia", but rather, "what she said about how his family was". perhaps they were uneducated backward oppressive kind. this movie shouldnt be taken as a criticism of iranian culture/tehran, but rather, as a criticism of mahmoody's family values. my cousin was recently in tehran & she said the women there are most fashoinable, educated, forward. whereas mahmoody's family members dont know english, they're rural kind probably.

  • @VineetaSastry totaly agree

  • i'm sorry, but i have no sympathy for this man whats so every

  • Dr. mahmoudi besiar marde bozorg o sharifi bodan. az familhaye ma hastan.

    ishon va kasayi ke toye in film hastan va aghvame ma hich kodom chenin karayi ro nakardan va moteasefane aghaye mahmoudi hich vaght nafahmidan hamsareshon chera in karo kardan va dar hasrate didane dokhtareshon jan sepordan. roheshon shad.

    khoda hagh ro be hagh dar miresone enshalah.

  • how come she waited 15 years, then search for her daughter? couldn't he send her an email? He didn't have anyone in the U.S to go and tell the true ????

  • @behnam200219

    execuse me!! how was your feeling if your wife took all of your medical certificate and run away with your daughter to no where??!!

    he couldn't find them at all in no where!!

    this is just the reality not a fight dear sir :)

  • @greanseasen He's an intelligent man. He would've known where she had gone. He knew where her parents were. He would've known that she would've gone to her parents, maybe not to live with them, but to at least visit them. So you can't convince me that he didn't know where she was.

  • R I P moody.......teflako che aziat kard in zanike betty ama khob dige taghsire khode marde ham bood ke raft ba 1ki mese un betty dorughgoo

  • What did Dr. Mahmoody die of?

  • "died in a Tehran hospital this morning because of kidney problems and other complications,"

  • @theevilpersian

    Wow I did't know. RIP.

  • @Noosa1978 he died of a broken heart .. this man is a very well educated and a kind man. what that women did to him is murder, for a man from the eastern culture.. shame on her.. may his soul be free and happy...

  • How do you know that Moody is dead? Is it public information?

  • Google the following and click the first link:

    'Not Without My Daughter' Iranian father dies AFP

    All the information should be there

  • I hink this lady has no reason to lie-it's also one of my favorite movies-but I believe this woman and I believe that this mn did what was portrayed of him! BUT he has to face the LORD ALMIGHTY GOD..

  • im reading this book and im almost halfway done.its so good!

  • notice in this so called documentary, they keep using the word "escape"....'she could not have escaped through Turkey'. Intresting choice of words, ya think? In Mahmoody trying to dispell all that happens makes me sick and it's truly sad that there are those out there who actually think Betty was a liar....sure, she was an escaped liar pfffff

  • nothing will defeat freedom.give me liberty or give me death.

  • Mahmoody is the creepiest guy, I have been learning about this whole affair and am in the middle of writing about it, and if there is one thing that I learned it is that Mahmoody's defense is riddled with logical fallacies

    Example:

    he claims he never beat his wife because he is shorter than she is.

  • She is a psycho

  • i also do wonder, who is the lady talking in the video??? moody did not look like i thought, not at all

  • are you talking about the woman with the white scarf?

  • Who is the Lady with the orange hair talking in the video?

  • That is Alice Sharif, she is mentioned in the book as one of Betty's friends, yet in this movie she is claiming Betty was a liar.

  • Betty could not have invented this stuff. Read the book and get her account - not the Hollywood version. Ask the daughter. She still remembers what happened. Why should we feel sorry for this guy Mahmoody? He has now met His Creator who is Just and Fair. He knows the truth about what happened and has heard first hand from Mr. Mahmoody himself. (And just as it is appointed unto man once to die, and after this, the judgement.)

  • i read the books many times and betty speaks the truth,and i know how those man are not only moslims,i am a liar to i am a batterd woman.

  • ok hes old and fragile, but he was once a brutal shit. he might seem nice they all do untill yer behind closed doors. he was a monster and he got what he deserved. at least betty and mahtob can now live again without fear. hes gone and he cant hurt them any more

  • Bottom line- even if she was allowed to go out when she wanted, even her husband was not beating her like he denies, even if the movie embellished circumstances like hollywood is known to do- He still held Betty and their child against their will which is wrong!!! I can't imagine the courage it took her to escape and I am glad they made it out. That is justice!

  • YOU ARE RIGHT!!

    Nobody will NEVER know what actually happened because nobody was there except Betty, her daughter and her husband.

    EVERY kind of actual fact has it's controversies BUT IF the "buttom line" of the movie is basically truth then Im on Betty's side because this sort of thing happened in my country Puerto Rico and the woman LOST the case!

    So even if Betty coudn't get her daughter out of Iran it would still a tale of injustice.

  • exactly but my question is that how come he is still in Iran and wouldn't the daughter be an adult by now? She could have contacted her father why hasn't she?

  • Exactly....

    Why did he not go to the USA to search for his beloved daughter?

  • The fact of the matter is that Betty was in Iran, wanted to go back home, but her husband wou'dn't allow that. She escaped because she wanted to. Of course Seyed sees it different, he feels his daughter was kidnapped, and in his situation, I guess I can't blame him.

  • As a man who lived in a household with a verbally and physically abusive father (to my mother), I find this video absolutely disgusting. You can whine about the "bad Americans" or "Jews" (entirely hypocritical) portraying Iranians negatively, but you cannot deny that there are men in EVERY country who are abusive, but in Islamic fundamentalist countries it is harder for women to seek help. Quit trying to make a tyrant look innocent. Mahtob is an ADULT and still wants nothing to do with him.

  • he wanted to veil his girl at 6 !!! his wife resisted , what wrong did she do him , anyway may he rest in peace

  • Mahtob should have talked to her father. The relationship between her mother and father did not include her. Forgiveness anf mercy go a long way. She should have given him the opportunity to say I love you to her.

  • adding to my prior post Betty made the mistake of not asking Moody to visit Iran first and seeing how he felt about going home. He should have gone and checked the living situation and then come back home and spoke to Betty about it. I believe they could have worked out the marriage if they both had not been afraid of loosing Mahtob to the other spouse Still Moody has a responsibility to his wife above ALL others When she was not happy for whatever the reason he should have said lets go back

  • Without all the ridiculous country vs country childish thought.... I think these parents have both made mistakes. Moody took and American wife lived and American life with her, had an American child and then took her to live in Iran during a tumultous time between the countries. Now the upheaval was not his or her fault thats between governments. Putting aside a lot and coming to the root of it he should have known that it was going to be difficult to move Betty there. He should hve cme home

  • What's interesting, is that this Betty Mahmoody was marketed - or marketed herself - as some kind of expert/tour-guide for Westerners, about Iran.

    In reality, she saw very little of Iran.

  • Mahmoudy promised on the Koran he would not keep her there if she would go and he broke his sacred promise. It's not kidnapping when it's your own child and you're being held against your will in a foreign country. She was extremely brave and brilliant to outsmart all of them.

  • So Betty says.

  • Sorry for my English I´m Czech :-) But excuse me a comment about Betty´s friend (around 5 min 1 part). Do you see her scarf at the right side of her face????

  • So... Theevilpersian... you must have known Dr. Mahmoody personally? after all that's what you are demanding of anyone who supports Betty's story. What right do you personally have to call her a complete liar and a horrible woman/wife/whatever? Are you denying that custody is automatically given to the father or eldest male relative of the father? Or perhaps you think this sort of thing never happens?

    I'm curious...

  • And what right do YOU have to speak on MY behalf without even knowing what I know or think on this matter? Unless you are magically quoting my from somewhere please don't speak non-sense for the sake of seeking attention.

  • Theevilpersian, jonokai is American, so its obvious he'd take Betty's story as the ultimate truth. That's the problem with most Americans: they take seriously what they see on their beloved tellies and don't bother to look beyond what the media whores say.

    I, for one, don't believe a word about the negative points of Moody. A civilised citizen suddenly turning into a backwarded peasant and abandoning all pride and dignity? Unlikely, but Americans, being Americans, obviously believe it.

  • Are we forgetting that Seyed abused his wife and child? Forget the fact that he's Iranian and she's American. He threatened and hurt his family. I don't care who you are, that is wrong. However, we will never truly know what really happened, I believe. Someone's lying, and, though it's hard to not side with Betty, I'm not sure who I can believe.

    Oh, wait. Visonu, I'm an ignorant American, right? "Americans, being Americans, obviously believe it." Hmmm, I spy bigotry...

  • You must have seen what happened in Iran with your own eyes, Jonokai, if you're criticising someone for doubting Betty's story.

    So then, friend, tell us the story, and I'm excluding the bits you saw on your telly.

  • I feel for this man, I mean that he died alone without seeing his daughter, and I think that the girl should have given him the benefit of making him a happy person and die with dygnity.

  • It's sad but Mahtob (who is now 30) has publicly stated she never wanted to see her father again. She clearly remembers him beating her mother in Iran-and threatening to track them down 'to the end of his life'. I would not rate any wife-beater a good man. Sorry. Too bad he didn't see her again-but that's on him. The first time he laid hands on her mother is when he lost any right to call himself a father.

  • I remember the movie shocked me when I first saw it back in 1990; I came to believe Muslim men were horrible people. But now, almost 20 years later, and having Muslim friends myself, I have realized that the movie was just typical overbloated Hollywood propaganda; in this case, against Iran.

  • I'm trying to keep a netural standpoint on this but here's what I think:

    I don't Mahtob remembered most of the story. She just went along with her mom's judgment. No, she wasn't heartless but I don't think me made the right choice to shut out her father. I'll really sad the two never met again.

  • I can't believe there are idiots out there who believe the book. I'm sure she made alot of money from the book and I hope she chokes on it.

    RIP Dr Mahmoody

  • Nimairoony, Dr. Mahmoody was NO saint. Keep in mind that Iran is a country where women are treated as second class citizens and homosexuality is punished by the death penalty. If Mrs. Mahmoody was being dishonest I'm sure Mahtob (who is now 30 years old) would have visited her mother before he died. Dr. Mahmoody brought this upon himself.

  • Well put.

    Dr. Mahmoody certainly does not represerent all men, or all Muslims for that matter-when I saw the movie, and read the book-I believed Betty all the way. And Mahtob's memories are very clear on the matter-he beat her mother, and prevented them illegally from leaving the country-Betty and Mahtob were Americans and Dr. Mahmoody had no right to keep them captive in his homeland.

  • hey, he knew Betty was going to risk his daughter's life to leave-he should have let them go. he gets what he deserves

  • 09:32 Indeed, it seemed totally exaggerated when I read the book. Might alter my view of things this documentary. Maybe the truth was "somewhere in between"..

  • It is interesting to see the other side of this story...

  • He was no devil, just a confused man... but as I see it he did this to himself. Stil, I wish that he could have seen his daughter again. It's a sad story.

  • how heartless can a women be?

    R.I.P dr sayed bozorg mahmoody

    died last week i guess

  • This video is so cruel ...

    It is impossible to imagine how a person can be so cruel?

    He asks, can you remember you my dear

    as you lay in my arm?

    and she does not answer!

  • I dont believe Mahtab is hearthless.She must be severly traumatized by her terrible memories about her father.I dont agree about her mothers brainwashing either(I lost my grandma about the same age when she fleed from Iran,And all my life,every single day I listened my mothers accusations about her how she was evil but I ve never got brainwashed.After 35 years still I miss her and I wish I could see her ones more).Its harsh but Dr Mahmoody paid his mistakes,

  • her daughter mahtab is heartless cause at the end of the DAYYYYY thats HER father, his father died today and she never called him, and never answerd his calls, im sorry for YOU.everybody makes mistake,her mother brain washed her for sure,but now she was old enough to talk to her dad. IM SORRY FOR YOU MAHTAB. HEARTLESS <<< one word

  • I aman american muslim women and i am married to a saudi man and its really not like this lol. i mean it happens but every country is diferent. iran, iraq, lebanon all those are different and its not against the law there, so whatever your comments are towards how its wrong, it really doesnt matter, you dont live there. and this is a religious thing also. its not uncommon (im not saying its right!!) but this doenst happen with everyone here. im also in houston tx, like he was lol

  • He is taking zilch responsibility. Wow. Dangerous man.

  • why am I not able to comment?

  • You can, you just have to wait for it to be approved. I moderate comments in order to filter out unnecessary insults and disrespectful comments ;)

    Cheers

  • I would also like to sound in on this issue. I believe Betty 100%. This documentary is bullsh*t. For crying out loud people, Betty trusted her husband so much, that she actually went to Iraq with her daughter. This is fact. This is indisputable!! That means LOYALTY!!!. THAT.....is evidence of a loyal and good wife.

    If you think Mahmood is telling the truth.....well, good luck in your life. You'll need it seeing as how you reject clear reason!!

  • I wish you would at least learn a bit more about something first before commenting on it. This is not about Iraq, it's about IraN. But perhaps this just goes to show that the movie was successful in completely misrepresenting Iran and portraying it to viewers as a country similar to Iraq.

  • theevilpersian, after watching both movies, I have come to the conclusion that Betty was mostly honestly and Sayyed mostly dishonest. He may be depressed about the situation, but he brought it upon himself by taking his wife and daughter to Iran during WARTIME and by acting violently toward both mother and daughter.

  • That is a respectable argument. Although I'm not sure if you are responding to my previous post or simply providing me with your view on it. Because that was not my point in that post. As far as judging one's honesty and dishonesty I personally do not find appropriate to decide solely based on 2 films or books from either side. There is a lot that you and I are unaware of, and that could easily lead us to a misjudgment.

  • evilpersian, I was responding to your previous post. For me, the largest factor is the fact that Mahmoody's daughter Mahtob has not contacted him since mother and daughter fled Iran. Given the fact she is almost 30 years old, I think if he wasn't an abusive father, she would have contacted him by now, even against her mother's will. While I do think Betty's book may have a few fictitious elements, I found it to be very credible.

  • Well my previous post was mainly about the misrepresentation and false portrayal of Iran, and not about mahmoody or betty. However, your reasoning about Mahtob is logical, yet one of many possibilities. Just as it is also a possibility for Mahtob to be avoiding her father in order to avoid going back to whatever drama that may have existed between her parents. Or simply staying away due to other circumstances.

  • A thousand apologies for confusing Iran with Iraq. How awful of me. Thats like confusing Russia with the planet Jupiter. Its so stupid of me to confuse the two. Russia being so obviously different from the planet Jupiter. They don't even have the same religion on Jupiter that they do in Iran. Also, that proves conclusively that I'm completely ignorant and Betty is a liar. Look, just remove all my comments. They're unnecessary and youre an idiot for even posting these videos to begin with.

  • excessive use of sarcasm results in ranting a whole lot about nothing. Thank you for demonstrating that.

  • Theevilpersian:

    You express yourself skillfully and brilliantly. Thanks!

    I do agree with you!

    You sound like a wise person!

    :-)

  • Fireplug111,

    Instead of arguing this much, use of unnecessary sarcasm and giving ridiculous examples, you could just say "Oh yes! I made a mistake! That country was Iran and NOT Iraq".

    If confusing Iran with Iraq isn't that much important and the 2 countries are almost the same, then I'd prefer to call the US, Canada and you're a Canadian!!!

    There's not much difference between Canada and the US after all !!!

    lol...Your reasoning sucks.

  • There isn't much difference. The two countries value liberty, freedom, private enterprise, democracy, equal protection under the law, free speech and education. They have independent sovereignty and slightly different laws, but they share the same democratic heritage and protections for citizens.

  • Personally, I believe every word said by Betty Mahmoudy.

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  • "In revenge and in love woman is more barbarous than man." (Nietzsche),

  • Personaly I have a hard time believing this guy. But I do love Sally Feild she's such a great actress. I love the show she's in Brother's and Sister's !

  • Hey guys,

    How is this movie???

    I heard that the book is awsome!

  • The book was good. The movie ok.

  • I just finished Betty's book, did not see the movie. I say that the book is extremely compelling. And it does not claim that all Iranians are evil. But it does claim that Iranian society as a whole, esp. the Ayatollah's Iran, is far more restricting than the US.

  • Someone tell me who is she in 4:29 minutes? Please.

  • i think its the women in the flim that she met in her class, not sure

  • I can't comment whether Moody really did abuse Betty or not, I'm simply going to say it'd be impossible to return to the States, if some group wouldn't be watching his ass I'm sure either friends and family of Betty would kick his ass on sight.

  • Why? Why should they hurt Dr. Mahmoody? His heart is already broken. He has lost everything. Why should they want to beat him?

  • Woah, did any1 see that woman almost get hit by a car at 4:19?

  • It doesn't matter if he beat her or not. The fact is, she didn't want to be there anymore and wanted to come home. That's all that matters.

    He kept them there against their will.

  • Yes, nobody is saying that Sayyed was without fault, but he was not the abusive monster Alfred Molina played in the film. Betty only made him look like that to provide a good excuse for her smuggling herself out of Iran so as not to go to prison.

  • That makes no sense. She wrote the book after she left Iran, while she was already safely in the US, and was no longer in any danger of going to prison.

  • If he really loved his wife and daughter he wouldn't have forced them to live in a foreign country against their will. It was his decision to live in America he didn't even give his wife and daughter the choice. Whether he beat her, took away all her money, or did any of the other horrible things portrayed in the movie or not he was wrong in trying to force his family to live in a foreign country. He was wrong.

  • i dont believe this...i think he still abused her coz a woman who is married for 7 years doesnt leave without a warning and without a reason... there must be something that made her leave all of a sudden.... what he is saying doesnt make any sense... there must be a reason D:

  • I think mahmoody deserves at least visitation rights to his own daughter

  • Mahtob is 30 now-what visitation rights??in public violence and sexual abuse groups she has stated her father did indeed beat her mother before her very eyes-and she never wanted to see him again which is her perogative. She lived the life not any of us. It was her choice. Her father is dead now so it is all moot any way.

  • Nope. Its not all moot.

    These people were pawns - especially the daughter.

    The people who used them, still have to answer for it.

  • I realize that your mother had Kidnapped you ????She was not trying to make things better. Betty to me seemed like a woman who wanted to get away from iran and its ways and did not want to leave without her daughter. A lesson to all bicultural families

  • These are quotes from Mahtob. Go tell her she lies.

    If I was stuck in between my dad and mom, maybe he wouldnt hit her. Maybe if I stuck my finger down my throat and I tried to vomit, I would distract his attention. Maybe if I cried and said I had to go to the bathroom he would let her take me and that would buy more time.

  • about "Islam." It's about one woman's experience under a cruel theocracy, as the victim, apparently, of an abusive husband.

  • ...correct, but the film does not attempt to go into any depth. The Sharif woman is even interviewed to give her opinion about whether Betty could have escaped over the mountains. So a housewife from Michigan who lives in Tehera is the Finnish director's authority on the possibility of a mountain escape from Iran. That is sad.

    I do not think the original film demonized Iranians. There are Iranians who are portrayed as heroically helping her to escape -- hardly "demons." The film is not

  • ...by claiming that in Midnight Express, the author portrays the Turks as "homosexuals who bothered him a lot." This is not true. It is true that the book portrays some of the guards as rapists, but it is also true that the author portrays himself as having a consensual love affair with another man when they were in prison (this part of the book is not portrayed accurately in the film that was later made of the book). Granted, it is difficult for either party to "prove" that their version is...

  • That said, I acknowledge the possibility that this documentary is true. But, we may never truly know. If this film is to be believed, than Mahmoodi has my deepest sympathies.

    God knows that men don't exactly have it well here in the States. What with the female bias and divorce courts stacked against males and all. It sucks!

    So, in the event this film is the truth, I feel sorry for the guy.

  • Just because Moody was abusive (if the movie was true) does not mean the movie was saying all Iranians are bad.

    You guys keep saying that's the message, but I never got that message.

    There are bad men and good men everywhere. Hell, just look at the smugglers who got Betty & Mahtob out of Iran. They were Persians and yet they were GOOD.

    How come you guys never seem to acknowledge THAT? Like I said, good and evil are everywhere. That's what I carried away after seeing that movie.

  • You say that NOW, and are obviously a more analytical person than general public. But you must look at everything in its respective context and time. Given the social and political status at the time this movie was produced, it can only be assumed that different intentions were in mind as different messages were received by the audience.

  • @theevilpersian

    "You say that NOW."

    And I said that then. When I first saw this movie, I also saw that there were good people in Iran, too. Those good Persians were the ones who got her out.

    To this day, I have yet to see the real Betty Mahmood tell the world that all Persians are evil bastards. Nor has her daughter, Mahtob.

    If Hollywood's true intent was to demonize Persians, they would've made the rescuers white, not Persian.

  • I also mentioned that you also seem more analytical than the general public. And yes, they did show a few "good Iranains" for helping Betty, but the way the country, the environment, and the people are portrayed both in the movie and in the book itself give a completely different, more violent, backward, and this dirty perception of Iran and Iranian people to the general public.

  • Do you mean to tell me that showing people speak normal dialogue with an unnecessary violent tone, and beat down buildings and cars as the city of Tehran...and then Betty describing the family eating worms are not made to degrade Iranians? And that is irregardless of whatever the situation was within the mahmoody family. Those are the typical sensationalizing methods of any country's media if you ask me.

  • The whole film is aimed at perpertrating the myth that all Persians are backward wife-bashers.

    Just look at how they are portrayed: being evil for killing a goat, brandishing guns in public, refusing to accept women.

    There is no doubt that women lack rights in Iran but this does not mean all Iranians are anti-woman, far from it: there is a women's rights movement happening on campuses in Tehran as we speak.

  • A very poor man. I Hate women like Betty Mahmoody which get married with a man from a foreign country and which think that only the man has to change his culture and that only she has the right to stay with her family.

    I understand Mahmoods family very good. I'd better like to see my daughter in Tehran than in the american house of such a woman.

    But we will never really know, who was telling lies, but I think, that Betty was...