The irish in the civil war..are you having a laugh..it was the Ulstermen fought and fought bravely in the American civil war. Trying to rewrite that histoy too? And it was the Scots and the Ulster Scots who first and foremost emigrated to America ..the Irish went later.
@100msw the reaces that fought for the union was the gemans the polish and the irish and you know what they all had in commen.....they all went to new york scots were in the south because the south is none catholic and the scots are not catholics
@TheScrambles1 Thats true. Hence the reason you had all kinds of Irish militia units from the Shannondoa valley. Lots of Irishmen in Virginia because they didn't get the know nothings down in the south like up here.
@TheScrambles1 I think your head is scrambled, Ulstermen settled in the south , check your history! Germans and Irish catholics were the bulk of the union army!
Some are from Glory.I recognize Matthew Broderick.I have heard others mention Cold Mountain.Hope that helps.Don't you know that one topic spurs on another?That's all this is.
this is pathetic, all of you this is not a chat forum, this is a comment area for this video for things ABOUT THE VIDEO, (or more importantly this lovely song) not a place for you all to gripe about other bs. go spew political rhetoric elsewhere.
@Marydawgs on the american citizenship. I m asking YOU specifically if YOU would accept them. Don t evade the question. Take responsibility for your beliefs
@Andulsi Nothing to do with me.I couldn't care less what religion or ethnicity they trace their heritage to.If they're here legally,then that child is an American.Case closed.
@Marydawgs that the Palestinians are descended from the ancient hebrews is not a matter of interpretation. Its written in their very DNA. You don t seem to engage very well with reasoned argument. They do recognise its right to exist. I personally wouldn t in their shoes. It s Israel itself that denies that they do. In a very cleverly orchestrated act of propaganda
@Andulsi You'r biased against Israle.That's clear.Their DNA?Their semetic peoples.They come from the same part of the world to say they are Jews is ridiculous.
@Marydawgs wasnt asking you about the legallity of immigration to the States. I was asking you, will YOU accept someone who satisfyies the criteria and yet is muslim?
@Andulsi The term arab jews refers to jews living in arab lands,communities.Most were forced out after the creation of Israel and made their way to other countries.Your crying over the Palestinians is totally ridiculous.The Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist and are sworn to wipe it off the map.The Jews were there long before Mohammad started his religion.To think that the Jews were his converts is wrong.You're blinded by your allegiance to the Palestinians.Real pc,euro!
@Marydawgs Though I m sure you ll also dismiss them as liberal islamofascists.I deal in facts and whats true. Not wishful thinking. I ve travelled enough. And like I said, I ve seen the consequences of Israel s actions. They talk about poecting their citizens. I guaratee you the civilian bodycount of Palestinians is far Higher than ofIraelis. Have you ever noticed that Palestinians killed in the conflict are never named in most of the World press, but Israelis are. Why do you think that is?
@Marydawgs because the truth is, this from the lips of a jewish former Israeli citizen lecturer in politics (I attended his lecture in Dublin, sadly forgotten his name, is that Israel does not REALLY want a two state solution. It wants the utr destruction of Palestine as an entity. And it does so whilst at the same time convincing the world that it is the oter side who don t want peace. This information comes to me from Jewish academics who were born Israeli
@Marydawgs In fact I remeber getting a leaked document a few years back therough a journalist friend. A document by the Israeli spin doctors on how to talk to intternational media. All breas in cease fires, even if perpetrated by Israel, were to be blamed on Palestiwe. All Palestinian overtures towards peace were to be 1- denied to he world press, and 2- met with incredulity by officialdom and met with unreasonable demands.
@Marydawgs It is also imply not true that they wont back off in fact every time there s a peace initiative, its actuallty broken by Israel. Indeed a few years ago, the cease fire being broken (blamed on Palestnian rockets) was actually broken by the Israeli Army goin into Palestine. Very few observers of the world press verified it but some of the BBC people did (incidentally, Im Irish, I stillthink the BBC have some of the best reporting on international news- most fair handed)
@Marydawgs the jews that were in Palestine before Islam are the very ancestors of the Palestinians since converted to Islam. That s the point. Do they lose claims on the land because they converted to different religion?
@Marydawgs your "go and arrest those responsible " comment is plain daft. I m illustrating a point about the type of thinking prevalent in that country. The utterly Racist and bigotted nature of a state you call "the only democracy in the region"
@Andulsi I see you totally overlook the Palestinians vow to wipe the Israeli Jews off the face of the earth.That's ok?Jews were in Palestine long before there was such a thing as Islam.They have had more than one opportunity to have their own state.You ignore that as well.Any questions re:immigration to Israel or questions of Jewish birth should be addressed to Israeli authorities.The Palestinians should have their own state,but not if they don't back off their sworn objectives against Israel.
@Bosnian519 Don't know about the last part of your comment re:islam.Those against terrorist behavior need to denouce it.Seperation of church & state is the way to go.
@Marydawgs also occurs to me. If my mother was Jewish and lived in Ireland all her life, and I lived in Ireland all my life, why would I have more of a right to land there than someone whose family had lived there for generation just because they happened to be Arab and Muslim. It s absolutely ridiculous thinking
@Marydawgs calling me backward whilst coming out with the gross overgeneralisations you have concerning "dumb euros", or anyone opposed to the Israeli state being "Islamofascist" is a trifle rich. How do you feel about the Duke of Wellingtons statement that to be born in a stable doesn t make you a horse? So if a child is born to Iraqi parents in the US and raised a Muslim, will you accept as one of your own?
@Andulsi Anyone who immigrates legally and has a child here isn't an issue.Doesn't matter where he/she is from or what religion he/she practices or doesn't practice.That child is an American.
@Marydawgs They felt betrayed? Are you seriously justifying the victimisation of a holocaust survivor for the heinous crime of renting a room to a Palestinian student????
@Marydawgs And stop going on about Euros. Its cringeworthy. The only REAL Americans are the ones your ancestors almost (thankfully not completely) wiped out. Its embbarrassing that you seem to think yoo re a different ethnicity from European or something
@Andulsi I'm American,you idiot.The euros are you guys.Don't like it.See why I object to yanks.Sound like a bunch of morons when you use it.Those early immigrants are quite plentiful all over the country from East Coast to West Coast,North and South,inland as well as coastal dwellers.Typical dumb euros referring to real Americans.Real Americans are those born here.
@Marydawgs Your government happily supported Franco in Spain. I was honoured to meet Bob Quinn a few years back. An Irishman who fought in the International Brigades in Spain against Franco. We were proud that day. Sadly passed away a few years later
@Marydawgs And what was he when he accepted Israeli citizenship and went to live there? Why do you think he had such a seizmic (big word I know-try to keep up) change of heart.
Ireland was NEUTRAL in WW2. By the way did you know many old IRA men joined the British Army at that time because thay saw the threat Hitler posed?
@Andulsi I know some Irishmen joined the RAF.I would imagine many fought in the British Army as well.Good for them.You should ask him.You're quite backward for someone who is supposedly educated.
@Marydawgs this is no BS. I was born in 76. Throughout my life it seems America has intervened in countries way beyond its territory. Palestine is close to my heart because I went to an international school that had Palestinian orphans n it. They saw their parents shot in front of them by the Israelis army. They were non combattants. Even as a child I knew that was wrong. I looked into the history, and logic told me they had no claim to that land in the first place
@@Marydawgs this is no BS. I was born in 76. Throughout my life it seems America has intervened in countries way beyond its territory. Palestine is close to my heart because I went to an international school that had Palestinian orphans n it. They saw their parents shot in front of them by the Israelis army. They were non combattants. Even as a child I knew that was wrong. I looked into the history, and logic told me they had no claim to that land in the first place
@Marydawgs He told me something I d later read in the international press. A holocaust survivor spat at by members of his community for renting rooms to Palestinian students. Lovely your definition of democracy. Was Hitler also an aid worker in your book?
@@Marydawgs He told me something I d later read in the international press. A holocaust survivor spat at by members of his community for renting rooms to Palestinian students. Lovely your definition of democracy. Was Hitler also an aid worker in your book?
@Marydawgs i must tell you this. I have a Jewish American friend living here. He lived in Isreal. Left in disgust at the treatment not only of Palestinians, but Jewish Arabs as well.Gave up Israeli citizenship. He' s now part of the Ireland Palestine solidarity group. He LIVED there. He should know what he s talking about. And he s Jewish. Go on, I dare you to call him an anti Semite and an Islamofascist
@Marydawgs Democracy doesnt exist anywhere actually It was an american friend of mine who said of the elections "doesnt matter who gets into the White House, the world is run from Wall Street". Believe me, I d embrace democracy if I ever manage to find any
@Marydawgs and Israel s no democracy if youre an Arab. I know an American Jew who left because he was disgusted at the traetment of Arab Jews out thee
@Marydawgs I have a degree in history and another in psychology. And I know middle eastern history. If I convert to Judaism, by your logic that entitles me to go over there and shift someone off their land.
@Marydawgs Why should the Palestinians agree to the existence of Israel. That most of them do is to their credit. I' m not sure I would if I was Palestinian. How would you feel if your grandparents farm was taken to create a State for a bunch of European immigrants. They had nothing to do with the holcaust...
@Andulsi Jews have been there a very long time.You make a distinction between european jews and those who stayed in the ME.Jews are Jews and they have a right there.The Diaspora is of little consequence?You're wrong.But then I don't care what you think.
@Marydawgs Israel began as an idea in the late 1800s, backed by European Powers who wanted an influence in the regn. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the idea took new impetus and was championed by the British, to secure their interests. America becomes deeply involved after WW2 because having a very pro Western state secured access to the oilfields. That is fact. Believe it or choose not to. Up to you.
@Marydawgs religion being a choice whilst ethnicity essentally an accident of birth, I think you ll find the Palestinians were there first as they are the direct descendents (verified by DNA) testing) of hebraic and Canaanite peoples living in the area 2000-3000 years ago. European Jews are, often as not of Slavic or Germanic origin. The diaspora having been greatly exaggerate, many myths being debunked by DNA analysis. SO who do you think was there first now?
@Marydawgs what will you say if you meet a Palestinian child who saw his parents shot. o it says in the bible your country belongs to someone else. True Irish Republicans support Palestine. Try to remember that if you re here during a session in a pub. now dont bother me again. Go drive your SUV to the Mall to eat a bucket of KFC whilst listening to some ill informed right wing pundit talk about Obama not being born in the Staes
@Andulsi No,I won't be spending any money there.Let's see what the decrease in American tourism does to your economy.My people were IRA supporters but your reasoning is flawed.The Palestinians are sworn to wipe out the Jews.I'm not backing that.What does the Bible have to do with this?That's your mistaken mindset deluding you.Your hysterical!I couldn't make this stuff up.Go get informed and come back when your ready to talk.Haaaa,haaaaaa,haaaaa!You're finished with me?Haaaa,haaaaa.Yeah,you are.
@Marydawgs I m done with you. You re a symptom of everything that s wrong in t States. Arrogant Ignorant and completely oblivious to the suffering your governments policies causes around the world
@Andulsi Haaaaa,haaaaaaa,haaaaaa you mean I disagree with you.You're a pc irish euro trying to outdo your euro neighbors.Sorry you're still the little guy on the block,always will be.Too bad.Go sulk now.
@Marydawgs typical though anyone who opposes the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people is antisemitic and an islamofascist. Your hypocrisy is sickening. My grand Uncle taught me from young age to recognise injustice wherever I saw it and never be afraid to call it what it was. Spent time in English Jails during the Tan war. And he had no time for American hegemony (big word I know-try to keep up) lording it over the middle east and south America.
@Andulsi My people fought the black & tans.Your socialist politics are your business.When you come after my country,I'm going to answer you.The Palestinians could have had a deal and blew it.They want to wipe all the Jews out of Israel.Sorry,not going to happen.The Jews were there before there was an islamic religion.So who's the newcomer.The Jews that survived the holocaust weren't going to stay among those that slaughtered them.So they migrated to Palestine.Too bad if you don't like that.
@Marydawgs how can I be an islamofascist you twat. I m an atheist Fuck off and go listen slack jawed to Ann Coulter or Bill O' Reilly. A man who incidentally makes me ashamed to be irish. You now nothing of my family. Course you probably don t think you re a yank. You re probably from the old confederate states. Burned any crosses in black peoples gardens recently you bigot. Support Israel. What business have you people in the middle east Get out and leave those people aLONE
@Andulsi Who I support is my business.You know nothing about me and you make these ridiulous comments.Of course,I do not pretend to know anything about you.It's just speculation.There are no confederate states here.Only one country free of brit tyrany.When you getting around to throwing them out of all of Ireland?I would guess never as they have their own gov.now & the loyalist want no part of the ROI.Guess it would be an added financial drain on you as well.Like bringing coal to Newcastle.
@Marydawgs its impossible for me to be antisemitic. I have semitic ancestry. I have many Jewish friends. I m anti zionist. There s a huge distinction. And I m very proud to call myself anti zionist
@Marydawgs I dont give a shit about your life, though I imagine the world would be better off without your ilk. Never come to Ireland. Youre not welcome. Members of my family didnt fight British aggression to turn this place into a theme park for thick ignorant fat yanks
@Marydawgs Thought so. You fit the stereotype then. It s Switzerlands neutraity I like by the way. Typical yank, ignore the facts that dont fit yourpig igorant racist bigotted knuckle dragging world view. An amercan friend of mine toe me 50% of Americans were great people. The other 50% were too stupid to live. I hink he d put you in that category
@Andulsi Typical,judgemental european.We aren't yanks.Only the ignorant irish & brits use that term.Makes you look really stupid using it.Yeah,one user can always find another.Figured you'd back them up.Yeah,you do.You have so many judgemental attitudes about it.I'll come to Ireland,if I like.Been there plenty of times.Visiting family.Na,you're the type that collaborted with the invaders.My family fought them.Theme park?How funny.You're responsible for what happens to your country,no one else.
Knew that was your bitch.You socialists make the decisions for the rest of society.Very funny,you're guilty of what you're complaining about.Proof is your wish that you had control over my life as well.You don't,you phony bastard.You know nothing about me or my country but spout these narrow minded generalities that you get off your stereotyping anti-US media.Ignorant asshole.
@Marydawgs Are you one of those bible thumping Americans who doesnt believe in Evoluton, thinks there s no such thing as global warming , thinks capital punishment is a good thing, and is categorically against abortion?
@Marydawgs and I m glad my Islands inconsequential. We mind our own business and no one bothers us. I think Switzerland had the right idea. And in terms oif governance, the socialist model of countries like Sweden is the best I ve seen. Socially inclusive society. Yours is horrible. I wouldn t live in America if offered huge money to do so
@Andulsi Switzerland was the financier to Hitler,launder money and cheated holocaust survivors out of their property.You're an anti-semetic little bigot.Just not against the islamic semites.Hmmmm,think you're actually one of them.
@Marydawgs I wish you d lived somewhere where you didnt enjoy the ill gotten priviledges of the American state so you could see what reality is. You havent a clue
@Marydawgs Now you can call mne small minded. But have you ever travelled. HAve you seen what happens when the CIA puts dictators in power? Do you know nothing. The Shah s regime in Iran was one of the most brutal. Disappearances, torture etc.. . But the Shah played ball with American interest. He fucks his own people but we like him
@Marydawgs ANd you are utterly responsible for world poverty Rampant capitalist speculation has kept the 3rd world in abject poverty. Your constant backing of military dictators who shaft their own people in exchange for US dollars is absolutely one of the primary causes of poverty in the world. The destabilisation of the Middle East and Afghanistan has caused a humanitarian crisis on a massive scale
Marydawgs Eropean Jews are just as likely to be slavic or germanic. They have no claiom to that territory The fact that moderate Palestinians aree seeking a two state solution is to their credit. If I d been a Palestinian farmer in 48 forcibly evicted from what became Israel, I d tell them to fuck right off back to Europe
@Marydawgs Every time the Palestinians have a peace initiative they are met with military action. Why, because the ultimate aim is to wipe THEM off the map. But that s not the issue. You take an interest in the human genome project? I did. Do you knoew that through genetic testing of populations we knopw that Palestinians are direct descendants of hebraic and Canaanite peoples. In other words their ancestors were the original Jews though they themselves are arabised and islamised.
@MarydawgsMost people in the world suffer abject poverty so you bastards can eat enough to die of obesity caused disease. I hear its hard to get trousers without an elasticated waistline in some parts of the states
@AndulsiWe aren't responsibile for world poverty,you idiot.This is what usually happens with you lib assholes.You start with the indiscriminate insults.Now go fuck off, clown.You're a small minded person from an inconsequential little island.
@Marydawgs. And closer to home in Ireland, Mayo farmers object to a shell pipeline, so they suffer intimidation by police and time in jail etc... . All because we cant challenge the sacred cow of capitalist interest which crushes human rights underfoot in the name of a few more numbers in the New York Stock Exchange. Your American Way is sick
@Marydawgs In columbia a few years back, people at the Coca Cola bottling plants worked for a pittence. Finally decided to strike. What did good ole american Coca Cola do? Hire thugs to beat and intimidate them back into the factories. A slavery, or near enough as to make no difference. That s what your country does to the world
@Marydawgs Allende was SOCIALIST. there s a difference with communist. And he was democratically elected. Which is more than you can say for Pinochet. How much profit did the Americans Arms trade make from the Indonesian Governernment as they used the hardware to annihilate the people of East Timor. No. Your country is morally bankrupt. Always was. Ever spoken to native Americans. I have. they aint keen on your old US of A
@Marydawgs A s a child we travelled. I met Palestinian kids who saw their (non Combattant) parents shot in front of them by the Israeli Army. Because your life isnt worth shit if you re arab in that territory. Dont talk to me about Israel. Most of the Jewish friends I had in England refused Israeli citizenship because of whats going on
@Marydawgs they were socialist not communist. And you people obviously dont believe in Democracy. You live all nice and safe in America. Well I ve travelled, and seen the lives shattered by your imperialist capitalist policies. There s nothing democratic about Israel. Apoartheid state hell bennt on destroying the Palestinian people. If they were a real democracy they d allow palestinians a say in the running of the place. They dont
@Andulsi He was aligned with the communists.Guess you back Chavez too.Allow them to have a share in power when they're sworn to destroy the Jewish state?The Palestinians could have had a state in 1948 and again at the Camp David meetings.Arafat refused to respond to Begin's proposal.Keeps the money flowing to his PA coffers that way.Nice & safe?How ridiculous.Our people are in harm's way all around the globe.At least we fight back now.Clinton did shit after '93 WTC bombing & attack on USS Cole.
@Marydawgs most of the pilots in 9/11 were Saudi. But hang on, they re an American Ally. Gotta create some bogeyman for our weak minded populace. How about Afghanistan. We can secure a pipeline through their land. Ignorant Yanks think they can lord it over the world. You gout thrashed in both countries by people armed with 20 year old kalashnikovs
@AndulsiYeehaw policy?Maybe you missed it.Almost 3,000 Americans were murdered,while at work,by those people.We were definitely going to hit them back.Should have left there a long time ago.Afghan.gave sanctuary to train to Al aqaeda.Seems that lots of those Al aqeda fighters are snuffed now.Got their boy too.After freezing out the lying dog Pakis.Everyone knows that the Saudis pump up wahabism to keep the heat off them.Fake bogeyman.What a joke.Ask the brits how fake their rail attack was.
@Marydawgs the tragedy is your media has you convinced that s true. Al Qaeda were persecuted in Ira. Saddam hated them. Punish Afghanistan for 9/11. Hardly getting those responsible,. How many civillian casualties. and don t give me an eye for an eye bullshit. Iraq has one of the worlds largest oilfields. Do you really believe its a coincidence. What have ytou achieved in either country apart from enriching enron or halliburton? sweet FA
@Andulsi Al qaeda wasn't the reason to go into Iraq.You euros get that wrong all the time.No one here thought that or that Iraq was part of 9/11.That's your misunderstanding of the situation,not ours.The western,civilized world runs on oil.It is necessary to be able to buy that oil on the world market.You can go back to horse & trap,if you like.
@Marydawgs no our politicians are so weak they kiss American ass. And if you think America doesnt have an interventionist policy, what are they doin in Iraq?
@Marydawgs don t you get that it s one of the reasons you re hated across the Arab world. That and your support for many of the dictatorships in said Arab world. Including Ben Ali in Tunisia, who was little more than an American puppet. He s gone now thank God.
@Marydawgs biblical scripture is not conscensus reality around the globe, and therefore should not form part of international law, therefore any biblical claims by Jewish people to middle eastern lands is laughable. In addition, Judaism was a proletysing religion during the medieval period, therefore, many European Jews are not of Semitic or middle eastern origin. But even if they were, the native americans have a stronger claim to the Americas than they do to Pallestine
@Marydawgs the bottom line is American involvement creates far more problems than it solves. And for Christ sake stop supporting Israel, a country hell bent on the complete annihilation of a native people
@Marydawgs. dont you get it. No one wants you to stop anything. We want America to stop assuming the role of world police.If America had allowed Iran self determination and not backed the Shah (a horrific despot by the way), there would have been no need for the Revolution of 1979 and the Iranians would have a secular democratic republic today The Ayatollahs took power in the vacuum created back then. But you have to have the oil
@Andulsi We have access to the maketplace and pay the price for it.The Shah would have had a more open society in Iran today without the theocracy in power.Those people don't want all those religious constraints on them.But you guys like that better than the Shah.Very forward thinking.Our role in the world is not decided by you.That's up to us and how it affects us.
@Marydawgs. my dad went to college with a guy from Chile in the 1970s. He could never go home. Chile, a socialist democratic republic, elected by the people, gets ousted by a CIA aided coup to establish one of the most brutal regimes of the second half of the 20th century under Pinochet. All because the socialist policies aimed to use the countrys natural resources for the benefit of the people rather than to enrich American Capitalists
@Andulsi A communist Chile aligned with Castro's Cuba & the Soviet Union was not in our best interests.I wonder if any sentiments in Chile were in agreement with the US.Guess you think not.We weren't going to let the Soviets gain another sphere of influence in the hemisphere.We didn't think it necessary to consult you.
@Marydawgs and why should we, a neutral country, allow american warplanes to refuel in our airports?. it s in direct contravdiction of Geneva. Not to mention the special rendition flghts bringing people to be tortured outside American Jurisdiction (just so they dont seem complicit- complicit as hell).
@Andulsi Because your ass and the rest of europe is protected by US military might when needed.We'll remember that in the future.Geneva?Ha!Geneva doesn't cover enemy combatants.You'll have a hell of a time down the road when those islamofascists come pouring into your country.I understand you already have some.Good luck with that.
@Marydawgs. Do you really believe you were fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was one of their staunchest opponents. But in the power vacuum, Al Qaeda will take Iraq. And Afghanistan. Nothing to do with a certain oil pipeline to the Black Sea, the American presence there. Afghanistan is unconquerable. The Brits saw that in the 1860s, the Soviets in 1980s, and your troops found that out in last decade
@Andulsi Who's trying to conquer Afghan?We wanted to bang them for their part in 9/11.We did that.That's more than enough.It's not a country,just a conglomeration of tribal lands.Al qaeda had fighters in Iraq fighting us.Al qaeda isn't the problem there now.It's sectarian alliance with Iran is.Never should have gone in there.Wasn't in our interests to remove Hussein.Who cares if he killed,tortured and incarcerated many Iraqis.Anyone can build a pipeline.Ahhhh,maybe not.Nothing wrong with that.
@Marydawgs. Our offshore oil in the hands of multinationals give huge tax breaks instead of being used for the benefit of the people. All because w pour politicians are so weak as to be scared. Well maybe they saw how when a country brought in socialist policies that were detrimental to American interest, you send in the CIA to establish regime change and set up puppet dictatorships. It s all over the world.Leave us alone.
@Andulsi Leave you alone?You're not even on our radar.Your policies are your responsibility,not ours.If you don't want foreign companies there,pass laws to stop it.Seems that the rest of your tiny island doesn't lean toward your socalist view of things.
@Marydawgs I m not even a little bit jealous. And if you think an act of genocide didnt occur in America, you re in total denial. America leaned on Ireland and Europe to allow all kinds of mad laisser faire speculative policies. First brought in during the Reagan Thatcher era.
@Andulsi No genocide.That would mean a plan to wipe out an entire group of people by our gov.and that didn't happen.There are many of the various Indian tribes here in all parts of our country.You just don't know it.That's your ignorance showing.
@Marydawgs. I m irish. I recognise the hypocrisy of imperialist powers when I hear it. Your coutry was created by an act of genocide. And it s power around the world was consolidated by propping up some of the most horrific regimes of the 20th century
@Andulsi No,you're wrong.Our country was created with a government of elected representatives voted into office by the people of the country.Your small mind reeks of jealousy.Sorry,but your country's insignificant status in the world marks your thinking.That's your problem,not mine.
@Marydawgs.you got royally beaten in Iraq and Afghanistan and you ll soon be leaving with your tails between your legs. Serves yo right. Leave the world alone. You ve caused problems everyhere. Chile, Nicaragua, Iran Iraq, Indonesia etc . Propping up puppet dictatorships to further your economic interests and then being so hypocritical going on about regime change in the name of democracy. You loved Saddam Hussein in the 80s when it suited you. You trained and created a monster in Bin Laden.
@Marydawgs. ANd if you actually believe the Americans joined WW2 to fight the evil Nazis, you re so naive its not even funny. They joined for the same reason they always do. It was in their economic and strategic interest to do so. If humanitarian reasons were behind American Wars, where were they when the Palestinians were being butchered in Chabra and Chatila. WHere were they when rivers of Rwanda were clogged with bodies. Nowhere. There was nothing in it for them
@Andulsi Where was Ireland?Why are we responsible for stopping everything.When we do get involved you guys stand around and bitch.That's your m.o.Look at Libya.Euros bitching about it and then complaining when air strikes were called in on Gaddafi.You guys use his oil,not us.You fight over there.The Balkans as well.You all stood around watching the slaughter and we finally had to get involved.That's your neighborhood,not ours.Your responsibility,but you did nothing.
@Andulsi We joined to fight the Germans who declared war on us.Right after we declared war on the empire of Japan.We were already fighting the Germans in the North Atlantic and sent materiel and provided escort to ships bound for Britain.It wasn't our war but Hitler had to be stopped.Churchill knew that.You did nothing.Truly disgraceful behavior.
@Marydawgs. I m guessing you re one of those Americans whio doesn t hold a passport and considers that Yeehaw and YippieKayay form coherent foreign policy. I m guessing you ve also never met an actual Muslim, the majority of whom are peaceful ordinary people.
@Andulsi Not concerned with those.I am with the terrorists who murdered all those working Americans on 9/11.Those peaceful ones can stand up and denounce the others.If they don't,they're part of the problem.I don't care what you think of that.I don't look to the Irish for insight into foreign policy.You don't have any experience in the matter.You're full of judgements it's laughable.
@Marydawgs. O and you re not Euros? Theres not alot I agree with about Arthur Wellesely, The old Duke of Wellington. But he was famous for one saying, "being born in a stable doesn' t make you a horse"
@Marydawgs I read the international press. If America s not in huge economic trouble, why are there working families over there going without food. I saw such people intervied on the BBC world service
@Marydawgs The current world recession started with American bad debt being sold around the world. Sub prime mortgage market. All policies of Mr Bush- curse his name and his descendants forever. By the way, I ve seen what passes for news reporting in the states. Fox and CNN. looks like videogames or hollywood movies. You people havent a clue about the rest ofthe world. And your whole cultures so dumbed down, I think you actually might believe yu re not of european descent
@Andulsi Didn't start with Bush.Long before him.Some of those liberal dems were involved up to their eyeballs with it.Add Obama's buddies in Acorn who strong armed the banks into making bad loans,federal mortgage programs that were also involved and regulators who were too busy doing their own thing to monitor The Street and gave the thumbs up on bad securities stock to unsuspecting investors and you have a financial disaster in the making.Your country's financial wizzards were complicit.
@Andulsi We don't take our cue from you,small time.After all,we don't go to Ireland for work.I think your issues stem from that.There are many news outlets here.You only named two.I guess you are plugged into video games & Hollywood.I'm not.I can take it or leave it.Video games are for kids.Dumbed down?Maybe what you gravitate towards is.That says a lot about you,not us.We're Americans,not europeans.Glad of it too.
@Andulsi Your financial issues are of your own doing.Thought you were players on the world stage,but you're too small for that.The rest of europe needs to cut spending,actually collect taxes and give up the early retirement and cradle to grave benefits.No wonder all those countries are broke.
maybe we should have drafted all of the illegal beaners and shipped their asses over to iraq and afghanistan. that would thin them out a bit . and the ones that survive would be elligible for citizenship
@Marydawgs threw the brits out? you were brits who didnt want to pay taxes. Thats all "americans" are. you re broke. ANd you re so shit at fighting you couldn t hold onto Iraq or Afghanistan. THey kicked your ass. TRy getting their petrol now
@Andulsi We weren't brits.We are Americans.We aren't broke.You are.That's why you're kissing England's ass.We didn't lose anything,idiot.Iraq wasn't our business in the first place.Afghan.got a real pounding from us.We should leave now.We don't get oil from either place.No one kicked our ass.You Irish 3rd worlders rag our servicemen going through your airports going to and from the warzone.Where the hell are you going for work now?Don't come here.You're not welcome here any longer.
@Andulsi You're totally ignorant when it comes to this country.We didn't refuse to pay taxes.We wanted representation in their parliament,if we were being taxed by their gov.They refused.They applied levies to imported goods.We dumped their british tea in Boston Harbor.They refused to allow Americans to settle land on the frontier.They wanted to do that.We weren't going for that.That's why we threw them out.We didn't want euros here.We don't want involvement with europe.
@Marydawgs.and whether you like it or not, you re a nation of immigrants. the only TRUE americans are the natives. tell you what, why dont you give them their country back
@Andulsi You know nothing about this country,euro.We are Americans and those you call native were immigrants as well.Anyone born here is an American.It's my country.We actually threw the brits out of all of it.Why don't you try working out your own national problems.Likw where are all of you going to immigrate to now that you're broke.Guess it's England.Be a good little brit and kiss the Queen's ass now.
@Marydawgs. As to opening history books, I have a masters degree in it. You see we actually know how to read in this country. Islamofascists Another American created bogeyman. Just like the commies in the 1960s. Created a bogeyman to instill fear in the simple minded in order to justify wars for resources. China is the rising world power. At least they have culture and a sense of history. We re sick of your stupid american way consumerist crappy dream.
@AndulsiYou don't have to worry about any dream because you don't have one.We don't kiss the ass of those that attack us like euros do.The Russians would have had all of Europe if it wasn't opposed by the US after WW11.No one else was going to stand up against them.Resources?We have plenty here.Guess you don't know that either.You guys can take care of Europe this time.Merkel looks about ready.Get to marching now,bro.No Marshall Plan this time.
@Marydawgs. I have a friend who was in the British Army in Iraq. The American soldiers there kept asking why the Iraqis didnt embrace the American way. He used to say to them, because these people have a culture that goes back thousands of years. They re not interested in your poxy Starbucks and McDonalds consumer Bollocks. Roll on the day China becomes the World Power. At least they have a sene of culture and history.
@Andulsi Typical euro bullshit.We'll see how you like China.They'd steamroll you and your pc crap in a heartbeat.Make the brits look like humanitarians.Those soldiers weren't talking about culture.It was free elections and the ability to vote for their leader.I don't believe we should have been in there at all.What the hell do we care if Hussein gassed and killed thousands.Let them fight their own fight.
@Marydawgs You are the amongst the most ignorant peple on the planet. The Irish are anti semites . What? all of them. Being born in Ireland makes you anti Jewish? Noew get ths clear, I absolutely oppose he Israeli state and Zionism, but I have actually no problem with Jewsh people. In fact I know many who agree with me. Your country has lorded it over e world for 50 years. It s over
@Andulsi What's over?Israel?Haaaaa,haaaaaaa,haaaaaaaa.The Israelis have more spunk than you could ever dream of having.Yeah,your people backed Hitler's Third Reich and you were dead wrong to do so.I don't give a damn what England did to Ireland.The moment of truth was upon you and you didn't do the right
augurey13 true. Coudn't fix it. Thanx!
MrDragnodd 3 days ago
Best version I've heard. :)
Augurey13 3 days ago
The irish in the civil war..are you having a laugh..it was the Ulstermen fought and fought bravely in the American civil war. Trying to rewrite that histoy too? And it was the Scots and the Ulster Scots who first and foremost emigrated to America ..the Irish went later.
100msw 1 week ago
@100msw the reaces that fought for the union was the gemans the polish and the irish and you know what they all had in commen.....they all went to new york scots were in the south because the south is none catholic and the scots are not catholics
brianseandiaz 5 days ago
@salsound Cold Mountain
MrDragnodd 1 week ago
@MrDragnodd
Clips are from Cold Mountain as well as Gangs of New York :)
Augurey13 3 days ago
@TheNmg21 Catholics were in the confederacy, there was more religious tolerance down here
TheScrambles1 1 week ago
@TheScrambles1 Thats true. Hence the reason you had all kinds of Irish militia units from the Shannondoa valley. Lots of Irishmen in Virginia because they didn't get the know nothings down in the south like up here.
DrKorn5 4 days ago
Most Irishmen fought in the confederacy because Catholicism was tolerated in the south
TheScrambles1 3 weeks ago
@TheScrambles1 I think your head is scrambled, Ulstermen settled in the south , check your history! Germans and Irish catholics were the bulk of the union army!
TheNmg21 2 weeks ago
ok, what movie are the scenes from this video from?
salsound 3 weeks ago
Great job with the vid! Such a beautiful song. Thanks for this!
Edansmommy 3 weeks ago
The song is beautiful and sad.The red hair girls are pretty and delicate.
The discussion is dirty and ugly and not relevant, though...
iblesq 1 month ago
Why we talking about jews and and palestinans on a irish video lol
guywholovescats1 1 month ago 2
thanks, a recognize a few from gangs of new york but most wern't but looked good, got me interested
MrUninspiring 2 months ago
@MrUninspiring Yes,I forgot that.The Gangs of New York,too.Tough going when the irish first came here in large numbers.They prospered,though.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
Some are from Glory.I recognize Matthew Broderick.I have heard others mention Cold Mountain.Hope that helps.Don't you know that one topic spurs on another?That's all this is.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
back to what i was searching the comments for: what movie are the clips from?
MrUninspiring 2 months ago
this is pathetic, all of you this is not a chat forum, this is a comment area for this video for things ABOUT THE VIDEO, (or more importantly this lovely song) not a place for you all to gripe about other bs. go spew political rhetoric elsewhere.
MrUninspiring 2 months ago
@Marydawgs on the american citizenship. I m asking YOU specifically if YOU would accept them. Don t evade the question. Take responsibility for your beliefs
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Nothing to do with me.I couldn't care less what religion or ethnicity they trace their heritage to.If they're here legally,then that child is an American.Case closed.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Andulsi (corr) Israel
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs that the Palestinians are descended from the ancient hebrews is not a matter of interpretation. Its written in their very DNA. You don t seem to engage very well with reasoned argument. They do recognise its right to exist. I personally wouldn t in their shoes. It s Israel itself that denies that they do. In a very cleverly orchestrated act of propaganda
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi You'r biased against Israle.That's clear.Their DNA?Their semetic peoples.They come from the same part of the world to say they are Jews is ridiculous.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
I'm wondering what this conversation has the song?
walkingwolf01 2 months ago
@Marydawgs wasnt asking you about the legallity of immigration to the States. I was asking you, will YOU accept someone who satisfyies the criteria and yet is muslim?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Not up to me to accept them.They're Americans.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Andulsi The term arab jews refers to jews living in arab lands,communities.Most were forced out after the creation of Israel and made their way to other countries.Your crying over the Palestinians is totally ridiculous.The Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist and are sworn to wipe it off the map.The Jews were there long before Mohammad started his religion.To think that the Jews were his converts is wrong.You're blinded by your allegiance to the Palestinians.Real pc,euro!
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Though I m sure you ll also dismiss them as liberal islamofascists.I deal in facts and whats true. Not wishful thinking. I ve travelled enough. And like I said, I ve seen the consequences of Israel s actions. They talk about poecting their citizens. I guaratee you the civilian bodycount of Palestinians is far Higher than ofIraelis. Have you ever noticed that Palestinians killed in the conflict are never named in most of the World press, but Israelis are. Why do you think that is?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs because the truth is, this from the lips of a jewish former Israeli citizen lecturer in politics (I attended his lecture in Dublin, sadly forgotten his name, is that Israel does not REALLY want a two state solution. It wants the utr destruction of Palestine as an entity. And it does so whilst at the same time convincing the world that it is the oter side who don t want peace. This information comes to me from Jewish academics who were born Israeli
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs In fact I remeber getting a leaked document a few years back therough a journalist friend. A document by the Israeli spin doctors on how to talk to intternational media. All breas in cease fires, even if perpetrated by Israel, were to be blamed on Palestiwe. All Palestinian overtures towards peace were to be 1- denied to he world press, and 2- met with incredulity by officialdom and met with unreasonable demands.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs It is also imply not true that they wont back off in fact every time there s a peace initiative, its actuallty broken by Israel. Indeed a few years ago, the cease fire being broken (blamed on Palestnian rockets) was actually broken by the Israeli Army goin into Palestine. Very few observers of the world press verified it but some of the BBC people did (incidentally, Im Irish, I stillthink the BBC have some of the best reporting on international news- most fair handed)
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs the jews that were in Palestine before Islam are the very ancestors of the Palestinians since converted to Islam. That s the point. Do they lose claims on the land because they converted to different religion?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs your "go and arrest those responsible " comment is plain daft. I m illustrating a point about the type of thinking prevalent in that country. The utterly Racist and bigotted nature of a state you call "the only democracy in the region"
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi I see you totally overlook the Palestinians vow to wipe the Israeli Jews off the face of the earth.That's ok?Jews were in Palestine long before there was such a thing as Islam.They have had more than one opportunity to have their own state.You ignore that as well.Any questions re:immigration to Israel or questions of Jewish birth should be addressed to Israeli authorities.The Palestinians should have their own state,but not if they don't back off their sworn objectives against Israel.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs nothing wrong with jews and nothing wrong with islam. Problem is with religion in politics.
Bosnian519 2 months ago
@Bosnian519 Don't know about the last part of your comment re:islam.Those against terrorist behavior need to denouce it.Seperation of church & state is the way to go.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs also occurs to me. If my mother was Jewish and lived in Ireland all her life, and I lived in Ireland all my life, why would I have more of a right to land there than someone whose family had lived there for generation just because they happened to be Arab and Muslim. It s absolutely ridiculous thinking
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs calling me backward whilst coming out with the gross overgeneralisations you have concerning "dumb euros", or anyone opposed to the Israeli state being "Islamofascist" is a trifle rich. How do you feel about the Duke of Wellingtons statement that to be born in a stable doesn t make you a horse? So if a child is born to Iraqi parents in the US and raised a Muslim, will you accept as one of your own?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Anyone who immigrates legally and has a child here isn't an issue.Doesn't matter where he/she is from or what religion he/she practices or doesn't practice.That child is an American.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs They felt betrayed? Are you seriously justifying the victimisation of a holocaust survivor for the heinous crime of renting a room to a Palestinian student????
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi I didn't do it.Go arrest those responsible.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs And stop going on about Euros. Its cringeworthy. The only REAL Americans are the ones your ancestors almost (thankfully not completely) wiped out. Its embbarrassing that you seem to think yoo re a different ethnicity from European or something
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi I'm American,you idiot.The euros are you guys.Don't like it.See why I object to yanks.Sound like a bunch of morons when you use it.Those early immigrants are quite plentiful all over the country from East Coast to West Coast,North and South,inland as well as coastal dwellers.Typical dumb euros referring to real Americans.Real Americans are those born here.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Your government happily supported Franco in Spain. I was honoured to meet Bob Quinn a few years back. An Irishman who fought in the International Brigades in Spain against Franco. We were proud that day. Sadly passed away a few years later
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Not all of us.The alternative wasn't good either.But you believe it was.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs no madam. I studied stuff. I saw people who lived with the consequences of the policies you champion from your comfortable armchair
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Champion?I give my opinion on issues on YT.I'm not championing anything.That's your thing.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs And what was he when he accepted Israeli citizenship and went to live there? Why do you think he had such a seizmic (big word I know-try to keep up) change of heart.
Ireland was NEUTRAL in WW2. By the way did you know many old IRA men joined the British Army at that time because thay saw the threat Hitler posed?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi I know some Irishmen joined the RAF.I would imagine many fought in the British Army as well.Good for them.You should ask him.You're quite backward for someone who is supposedly educated.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs An Isreali Army funded and supporte by th US. That oversaw the massacres of innocents at Chabra and Shatila. I know of what I speak
Andulsi 2 months ago
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@Marydawgs this is no BS. I was born in 76. Throughout my life it seems America has intervened in countries way beyond its territory. Palestine is close to my heart because I went to an international school that had Palestinian orphans n it. They saw their parents shot in front of them by the Israelis army. They were non combattants. Even as a child I knew that was wrong. I looked into the history, and logic told me they had no claim to that land in the first place
Andulsi 2 months ago
@@Marydawgs this is no BS. I was born in 76. Throughout my life it seems America has intervened in countries way beyond its territory. Palestine is close to my heart because I went to an international school that had Palestinian orphans n it. They saw their parents shot in front of them by the Israelis army. They were non combattants. Even as a child I knew that was wrong. I looked into the history, and logic told me they had no claim to that land in the first place
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi You're wrong.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
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@Marydawgs He told me something I d later read in the international press. A holocaust survivor spat at by members of his community for renting rooms to Palestinian students. Lovely your definition of democracy. Was Hitler also an aid worker in your book?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@@Marydawgs He told me something I d later read in the international press. A holocaust survivor spat at by members of his community for renting rooms to Palestinian students. Lovely your definition of democracy. Was Hitler also an aid worker in your book?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi They felt betrayed by those actions.I don't know about Hitler.Your government supported him,not mine.You should know the answer to that.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs i must tell you this. I have a Jewish American friend living here. He lived in Isreal. Left in disgust at the treatment not only of Palestinians, but Jewish Arabs as well.Gave up Israeli citizenship. He' s now part of the Ireland Palestine solidarity group. He LIVED there. He should know what he s talking about. And he s Jewish. Go on, I dare you to call him an anti Semite and an Islamofascist
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi He's a left leaning pc euro.And he's putting out his ideas.So what.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Democracy doesnt exist anywhere actually It was an american friend of mine who said of the elections "doesnt matter who gets into the White House, the world is run from Wall Street". Believe me, I d embrace democracy if I ever manage to find any
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi We're talking about Israel.I know that's what is behind your bs.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs pay close attention they were Arabs yes, but JEWISH Arabs. Treated like shit by the Israeli State
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs and Israel s no democracy if youre an Arab. I know an American Jew who left because he was disgusted at the traetment of Arab Jews out thee
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs I have a degree in history and another in psychology. And I know middle eastern history. If I convert to Judaism, by your logic that entitles me to go over there and shift someone off their land.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi You wouldn't be considered a Jew in Israel.Unless your mother is Jewish.Then,yes you could migrate to Israel.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Why should the Palestinians agree to the existence of Israel. That most of them do is to their credit. I' m not sure I would if I was Palestinian. How would you feel if your grandparents farm was taken to create a State for a bunch of European immigrants. They had nothing to do with the holcaust...
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Jews have been there a very long time.You make a distinction between european jews and those who stayed in the ME.Jews are Jews and they have a right there.The Diaspora is of little consequence?You're wrong.But then I don't care what you think.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Israel began as an idea in the late 1800s, backed by European Powers who wanted an influence in the regn. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the idea took new impetus and was championed by the British, to secure their interests. America becomes deeply involved after WW2 because having a very pro Western state secured access to the oilfields. That is fact. Believe it or choose not to. Up to you.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Israel is the only democract there.We support them.That's our business,not yours.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Andulsi (corr) democracy
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs religion being a choice whilst ethnicity essentally an accident of birth, I think you ll find the Palestinians were there first as they are the direct descendents (verified by DNA) testing) of hebraic and Canaanite peoples living in the area 2000-3000 years ago. European Jews are, often as not of Slavic or Germanic origin. The diaspora having been greatly exaggerate, many myths being debunked by DNA analysis. SO who do you think was there first now?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs what will you say if you meet a Palestinian child who saw his parents shot. o it says in the bible your country belongs to someone else. True Irish Republicans support Palestine. Try to remember that if you re here during a session in a pub. now dont bother me again. Go drive your SUV to the Mall to eat a bucket of KFC whilst listening to some ill informed right wing pundit talk about Obama not being born in the Staes
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi No,I won't be spending any money there.Let's see what the decrease in American tourism does to your economy.My people were IRA supporters but your reasoning is flawed.The Palestinians are sworn to wipe out the Jews.I'm not backing that.What does the Bible have to do with this?That's your mistaken mindset deluding you.Your hysterical!I couldn't make this stuff up.Go get informed and come back when your ready to talk.Haaaa,haaaaaa,haaaaa!You're finished with me?Haaaa,haaaaa.Yeah,you are.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs I m done with you. You re a symptom of everything that s wrong in t States. Arrogant Ignorant and completely oblivious to the suffering your governments policies causes around the world
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Haaaaa,haaaaaaa,haaaaaa you mean I disagree with you.You're a pc irish euro trying to outdo your euro neighbors.Sorry you're still the little guy on the block,always will be.Too bad.Go sulk now.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs typical though anyone who opposes the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people is antisemitic and an islamofascist. Your hypocrisy is sickening. My grand Uncle taught me from young age to recognise injustice wherever I saw it and never be afraid to call it what it was. Spent time in English Jails during the Tan war. And he had no time for American hegemony (big word I know-try to keep up) lording it over the middle east and south America.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi My people fought the black & tans.Your socialist politics are your business.When you come after my country,I'm going to answer you.The Palestinians could have had a deal and blew it.They want to wipe all the Jews out of Israel.Sorry,not going to happen.The Jews were there before there was an islamic religion.So who's the newcomer.The Jews that survived the holocaust weren't going to stay among those that slaughtered them.So they migrated to Palestine.Too bad if you don't like that.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs how can I be an islamofascist you twat. I m an atheist Fuck off and go listen slack jawed to Ann Coulter or Bill O' Reilly. A man who incidentally makes me ashamed to be irish. You now nothing of my family. Course you probably don t think you re a yank. You re probably from the old confederate states. Burned any crosses in black peoples gardens recently you bigot. Support Israel. What business have you people in the middle east Get out and leave those people aLONE
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Who I support is my business.You know nothing about me and you make these ridiulous comments.Of course,I do not pretend to know anything about you.It's just speculation.There are no confederate states here.Only one country free of brit tyrany.When you getting around to throwing them out of all of Ireland?I would guess never as they have their own gov.now & the loyalist want no part of the ROI.Guess it would be an added financial drain on you as well.Like bringing coal to Newcastle.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs its impossible for me to be antisemitic. I have semitic ancestry. I have many Jewish friends. I m anti zionist. There s a huge distinction. And I m very proud to call myself anti zionist
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Yeah,I guessed that.I'm pro Israel and don't give a crap what you think about it.Knew you were one of the islamofascists.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs I dont give a shit about your life, though I imagine the world would be better off without your ilk. Never come to Ireland. Youre not welcome. Members of my family didnt fight British aggression to turn this place into a theme park for thick ignorant fat yanks
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Thought so. You fit the stereotype then. It s Switzerlands neutraity I like by the way. Typical yank, ignore the facts that dont fit yourpig igorant racist bigotted knuckle dragging world view. An amercan friend of mine toe me 50% of Americans were great people. The other 50% were too stupid to live. I hink he d put you in that category
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Typical,judgemental european.We aren't yanks.Only the ignorant irish & brits use that term.Makes you look really stupid using it.Yeah,one user can always find another.Figured you'd back them up.Yeah,you do.You have so many judgemental attitudes about it.I'll come to Ireland,if I like.Been there plenty of times.Visiting family.Na,you're the type that collaborted with the invaders.My family fought them.Theme park?How funny.You're responsible for what happens to your country,no one else.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
Knew that was your bitch.You socialists make the decisions for the rest of society.Very funny,you're guilty of what you're complaining about.Proof is your wish that you had control over my life as well.You don't,you phony bastard.You know nothing about me or my country but spout these narrow minded generalities that you get off your stereotyping anti-US media.Ignorant asshole.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Are you one of those bible thumping Americans who doesnt believe in Evoluton, thinks there s no such thing as global warming , thinks capital punishment is a good thing, and is categorically against abortion?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs by the way the underground bombings in London were perpetrated by people born in the UK
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs 3000 dead in 9/11 so that makes it ok to kill 100s of thousands of civilians. Absolutely yeehaw foreign policy.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs and I m glad my Islands inconsequential. We mind our own business and no one bothers us. I think Switzerland had the right idea. And in terms oif governance, the socialist model of countries like Sweden is the best I ve seen. Socially inclusive society. Yours is horrible. I wouldn t live in America if offered huge money to do so
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Switzerland was the financier to Hitler,launder money and cheated holocaust survivors out of their property.You're an anti-semetic little bigot.Just not against the islamic semites.Hmmmm,think you're actually one of them.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs I wish you d lived somewhere where you didnt enjoy the ill gotten priviledges of the American state so you could see what reality is. You havent a clue
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Now you can call mne small minded. But have you ever travelled. HAve you seen what happens when the CIA puts dictators in power? Do you know nothing. The Shah s regime in Iran was one of the most brutal. Disappearances, torture etc.. . But the Shah played ball with American interest. He fucks his own people but we like him
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs ANd you are utterly responsible for world poverty Rampant capitalist speculation has kept the 3rd world in abject poverty. Your constant backing of military dictators who shaft their own people in exchange for US dollars is absolutely one of the primary causes of poverty in the world. The destabilisation of the Middle East and Afghanistan has caused a humanitarian crisis on a massive scale
Andulsi 2 months ago
Marydawgs Eropean Jews are just as likely to be slavic or germanic. They have no claiom to that territory The fact that moderate Palestinians aree seeking a two state solution is to their credit. If I d been a Palestinian farmer in 48 forcibly evicted from what became Israel, I d tell them to fuck right off back to Europe
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Every time the Palestinians have a peace initiative they are met with military action. Why, because the ultimate aim is to wipe THEM off the map. But that s not the issue. You take an interest in the human genome project? I did. Do you knoew that through genetic testing of populations we knopw that Palestinians are direct descendants of hebraic and Canaanite peoples. In other words their ancestors were the original Jews though they themselves are arabised and islamised.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@MarydawgsMost people in the world suffer abject poverty so you bastards can eat enough to die of obesity caused disease. I hear its hard to get trousers without an elasticated waistline in some parts of the states
Andulsi 2 months ago
@AndulsiWe aren't responsibile for world poverty,you idiot.This is what usually happens with you lib assholes.You start with the indiscriminate insults.Now go fuck off, clown.You're a small minded person from an inconsequential little island.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. And closer to home in Ireland, Mayo farmers object to a shell pipeline, so they suffer intimidation by police and time in jail etc... . All because we cant challenge the sacred cow of capitalist interest which crushes human rights underfoot in the name of a few more numbers in the New York Stock Exchange. Your American Way is sick
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs In columbia a few years back, people at the Coca Cola bottling plants worked for a pittence. Finally decided to strike. What did good ole american Coca Cola do? Hire thugs to beat and intimidate them back into the factories. A slavery, or near enough as to make no difference. That s what your country does to the world
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs Allende was SOCIALIST. there s a difference with communist. And he was democratically elected. Which is more than you can say for Pinochet. How much profit did the Americans Arms trade make from the Indonesian Governernment as they used the hardware to annihilate the people of East Timor. No. Your country is morally bankrupt. Always was. Ever spoken to native Americans. I have. they aint keen on your old US of A
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs I suppose you think Pinochets regime, which saw 10s of thousands of "disappeared" all aided and abetted by the CIA, was a good thing.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs A s a child we travelled. I met Palestinian kids who saw their (non Combattant) parents shot in front of them by the Israeli Army. Because your life isnt worth shit if you re arab in that territory. Dont talk to me about Israel. Most of the Jewish friends I had in England refused Israeli citizenship because of whats going on
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi That's their choice.If you're sworn to wipe Israel off the map,why would any Israelis regard the Palestinians with anything but disrust?
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs they were socialist not communist. And you people obviously dont believe in Democracy. You live all nice and safe in America. Well I ve travelled, and seen the lives shattered by your imperialist capitalist policies. There s nothing democratic about Israel. Apoartheid state hell bennt on destroying the Palestinian people. If they were a real democracy they d allow palestinians a say in the running of the place. They dont
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi He was aligned with the communists.Guess you back Chavez too.Allow them to have a share in power when they're sworn to destroy the Jewish state?The Palestinians could have had a state in 1948 and again at the Camp David meetings.Arafat refused to respond to Begin's proposal.Keeps the money flowing to his PA coffers that way.Nice & safe?How ridiculous.Our people are in harm's way all around the globe.At least we fight back now.Clinton did shit after '93 WTC bombing & attack on USS Cole.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs most of the pilots in 9/11 were Saudi. But hang on, they re an American Ally. Gotta create some bogeyman for our weak minded populace. How about Afghanistan. We can secure a pipeline through their land. Ignorant Yanks think they can lord it over the world. You gout thrashed in both countries by people armed with 20 year old kalashnikovs
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs bang them for their part in 9/11. Speaks volume yeehaw as foreign policy
Andulsi 2 months ago
@AndulsiYeehaw policy?Maybe you missed it.Almost 3,000 Americans were murdered,while at work,by those people.We were definitely going to hit them back.Should have left there a long time ago.Afghan.gave sanctuary to train to Al aqaeda.Seems that lots of those Al aqeda fighters are snuffed now.Got their boy too.After freezing out the lying dog Pakis.Everyone knows that the Saudis pump up wahabism to keep the heat off them.Fake bogeyman.What a joke.Ask the brits how fake their rail attack was.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs the tragedy is your media has you convinced that s true. Al Qaeda were persecuted in Ira. Saddam hated them. Punish Afghanistan for 9/11. Hardly getting those responsible,. How many civillian casualties. and don t give me an eye for an eye bullshit. Iraq has one of the worlds largest oilfields. Do you really believe its a coincidence. What have ytou achieved in either country apart from enriching enron or halliburton? sweet FA
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Al qaeda wasn't the reason to go into Iraq.You euros get that wrong all the time.No one here thought that or that Iraq was part of 9/11.That's your misunderstanding of the situation,not ours.The western,civilized world runs on oil.It is necessary to be able to buy that oil on the world market.You can go back to horse & trap,if you like.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs no our politicians are so weak they kiss American ass. And if you think America doesnt have an interventionist policy, what are they doin in Iraq?
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs don t you get that it s one of the reasons you re hated across the Arab world. That and your support for many of the dictatorships in said Arab world. Including Ben Ali in Tunisia, who was little more than an American puppet. He s gone now thank God.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs biblical scripture is not conscensus reality around the globe, and therefore should not form part of international law, therefore any biblical claims by Jewish people to middle eastern lands is laughable. In addition, Judaism was a proletysing religion during the medieval period, therefore, many European Jews are not of Semitic or middle eastern origin. But even if they were, the native americans have a stronger claim to the Americas than they do to Pallestine
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs the bottom line is American involvement creates far more problems than it solves. And for Christ sake stop supporting Israel, a country hell bent on the complete annihilation of a native people
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi That's your opinion.No,Israel is the one democracy over there and no way will the US back away from them.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. dont you get it. No one wants you to stop anything. We want America to stop assuming the role of world police.If America had allowed Iran self determination and not backed the Shah (a horrific despot by the way), there would have been no need for the Revolution of 1979 and the Iranians would have a secular democratic republic today The Ayatollahs took power in the vacuum created back then. But you have to have the oil
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi We have access to the maketplace and pay the price for it.The Shah would have had a more open society in Iran today without the theocracy in power.Those people don't want all those religious constraints on them.But you guys like that better than the Shah.Very forward thinking.Our role in the world is not decided by you.That's up to us and how it affects us.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. my dad went to college with a guy from Chile in the 1970s. He could never go home. Chile, a socialist democratic republic, elected by the people, gets ousted by a CIA aided coup to establish one of the most brutal regimes of the second half of the 20th century under Pinochet. All because the socialist policies aimed to use the countrys natural resources for the benefit of the people rather than to enrich American Capitalists
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi A communist Chile aligned with Castro's Cuba & the Soviet Union was not in our best interests.I wonder if any sentiments in Chile were in agreement with the US.Guess you think not.We weren't going to let the Soviets gain another sphere of influence in the hemisphere.We didn't think it necessary to consult you.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs and why should we, a neutral country, allow american warplanes to refuel in our airports?. it s in direct contravdiction of Geneva. Not to mention the special rendition flghts bringing people to be tortured outside American Jurisdiction (just so they dont seem complicit- complicit as hell).
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Because your ass and the rest of europe is protected by US military might when needed.We'll remember that in the future.Geneva?Ha!Geneva doesn't cover enemy combatants.You'll have a hell of a time down the road when those islamofascists come pouring into your country.I understand you already have some.Good luck with that.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. Do you really believe you were fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was one of their staunchest opponents. But in the power vacuum, Al Qaeda will take Iraq. And Afghanistan. Nothing to do with a certain oil pipeline to the Black Sea, the American presence there. Afghanistan is unconquerable. The Brits saw that in the 1860s, the Soviets in 1980s, and your troops found that out in last decade
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Who's trying to conquer Afghan?We wanted to bang them for their part in 9/11.We did that.That's more than enough.It's not a country,just a conglomeration of tribal lands.Al qaeda had fighters in Iraq fighting us.Al qaeda isn't the problem there now.It's sectarian alliance with Iran is.Never should have gone in there.Wasn't in our interests to remove Hussein.Who cares if he killed,tortured and incarcerated many Iraqis.Anyone can build a pipeline.Ahhhh,maybe not.Nothing wrong with that.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. Our offshore oil in the hands of multinationals give huge tax breaks instead of being used for the benefit of the people. All because w pour politicians are so weak as to be scared. Well maybe they saw how when a country brought in socialist policies that were detrimental to American interest, you send in the CIA to establish regime change and set up puppet dictatorships. It s all over the world.Leave us alone.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Leave you alone?You're not even on our radar.Your policies are your responsibility,not ours.If you don't want foreign companies there,pass laws to stop it.Seems that the rest of your tiny island doesn't lean toward your socalist view of things.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs I m not even a little bit jealous. And if you think an act of genocide didnt occur in America, you re in total denial. America leaned on Ireland and Europe to allow all kinds of mad laisser faire speculative policies. First brought in during the Reagan Thatcher era.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi No genocide.That would mean a plan to wipe out an entire group of people by our gov.and that didn't happen.There are many of the various Indian tribes here in all parts of our country.You just don't know it.That's your ignorance showing.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. I m irish. I recognise the hypocrisy of imperialist powers when I hear it. Your coutry was created by an act of genocide. And it s power around the world was consolidated by propping up some of the most horrific regimes of the 20th century
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi No,you're wrong.Our country was created with a government of elected representatives voted into office by the people of the country.Your small mind reeks of jealousy.Sorry,but your country's insignificant status in the world marks your thinking.That's your problem,not mine.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs.as the old joke runs
American official1: "how do we know Saddam Hussein has WMDs?"
American official2; "we kept the receipts"
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs.you got royally beaten in Iraq and Afghanistan and you ll soon be leaving with your tails between your legs. Serves yo right. Leave the world alone. You ve caused problems everyhere. Chile, Nicaragua, Iran Iraq, Indonesia etc . Propping up puppet dictatorships to further your economic interests and then being so hypocritical going on about regime change in the name of democracy. You loved Saddam Hussein in the 80s when it suited you. You trained and created a monster in Bin Laden.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. ANd if you actually believe the Americans joined WW2 to fight the evil Nazis, you re so naive its not even funny. They joined for the same reason they always do. It was in their economic and strategic interest to do so. If humanitarian reasons were behind American Wars, where were they when the Palestinians were being butchered in Chabra and Chatila. WHere were they when rivers of Rwanda were clogged with bodies. Nowhere. There was nothing in it for them
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Where was Ireland?Why are we responsible for stopping everything.When we do get involved you guys stand around and bitch.That's your m.o.Look at Libya.Euros bitching about it and then complaining when air strikes were called in on Gaddafi.You guys use his oil,not us.You fight over there.The Balkans as well.You all stood around watching the slaughter and we finally had to get involved.That's your neighborhood,not ours.Your responsibility,but you did nothing.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Andulsi We joined to fight the Germans who declared war on us.Right after we declared war on the empire of Japan.We were already fighting the Germans in the North Atlantic and sent materiel and provided escort to ships bound for Britain.It wasn't our war but Hitler had to be stopped.Churchill knew that.You did nothing.Truly disgraceful behavior.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. I m guessing you re one of those Americans whio doesn t hold a passport and considers that Yeehaw and YippieKayay form coherent foreign policy. I m guessing you ve also never met an actual Muslim, the majority of whom are peaceful ordinary people.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Not concerned with those.I am with the terrorists who murdered all those working Americans on 9/11.Those peaceful ones can stand up and denounce the others.If they don't,they're part of the problem.I don't care what you think of that.I don't look to the Irish for insight into foreign policy.You don't have any experience in the matter.You're full of judgements it's laughable.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. O and you re not Euros? Theres not alot I agree with about Arthur Wellesely, The old Duke of Wellington. But he was famous for one saying, "being born in a stable doesn' t make you a horse"
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Marydawgs I read the international press. If America s not in huge economic trouble, why are there working families over there going without food. I saw such people intervied on the BBC world service
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi We are in an awful economic situation.It's happened before.We'll recover.The cycle doesn't right itself overnight.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs and what were the first americans if not british colonists.Mayflower and all that. They came from Plymouth.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Newsflash!We stopped being colonists in the 1770s.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs The current world recession started with American bad debt being sold around the world. Sub prime mortgage market. All policies of Mr Bush- curse his name and his descendants forever. By the way, I ve seen what passes for news reporting in the states. Fox and CNN. looks like videogames or hollywood movies. You people havent a clue about the rest ofthe world. And your whole cultures so dumbed down, I think you actually might believe yu re not of european descent
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Didn't start with Bush.Long before him.Some of those liberal dems were involved up to their eyeballs with it.Add Obama's buddies in Acorn who strong armed the banks into making bad loans,federal mortgage programs that were also involved and regulators who were too busy doing their own thing to monitor The Street and gave the thumbs up on bad securities stock to unsuspecting investors and you have a financial disaster in the making.Your country's financial wizzards were complicit.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Andulsi We don't take our cue from you,small time.After all,we don't go to Ireland for work.I think your issues stem from that.There are many news outlets here.You only named two.I guess you are plugged into video games & Hollywood.I'm not.I can take it or leave it.Video games are for kids.Dumbed down?Maybe what you gravitate towards is.That says a lot about you,not us.We're Americans,not europeans.Glad of it too.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Andulsi Your financial issues are of your own doing.Thought you were players on the world stage,but you're too small for that.The rest of europe needs to cut spending,actually collect taxes and give up the early retirement and cradle to grave benefits.No wonder all those countries are broke.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
Does anyone know the movie that the scenes from the Civil War battle at the end is?
TiberiusOmega3 2 months ago
@TiberiusOmega3 I think it's from Glory.Looks like Matthew Broderick as the commanding officer.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
posting this video will get you five years in jail under sopa.
Johnchuk3 2 months ago
maybe we should have drafted all of the illegal beaners and shipped their asses over to iraq and afghanistan. that would thin them out a bit . and the ones that survive would be elligible for citizenship
gungho1345 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. Nativs were immigrants. They were theyre at least 10 thousand years before you people
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Like I said you know nothing about this country.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs threw the brits out? you were brits who didnt want to pay taxes. Thats all "americans" are. you re broke. ANd you re so shit at fighting you couldn t hold onto Iraq or Afghanistan. THey kicked your ass. TRy getting their petrol now
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi We weren't brits.We are Americans.We aren't broke.You are.That's why you're kissing England's ass.We didn't lose anything,idiot.Iraq wasn't our business in the first place.Afghan.got a real pounding from us.We should leave now.We don't get oil from either place.No one kicked our ass.You Irish 3rd worlders rag our servicemen going through your airports going to and from the warzone.Where the hell are you going for work now?Don't come here.You're not welcome here any longer.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Andulsi You're totally ignorant when it comes to this country.We didn't refuse to pay taxes.We wanted representation in their parliament,if we were being taxed by their gov.They refused.They applied levies to imported goods.We dumped their british tea in Boston Harbor.They refused to allow Americans to settle land on the frontier.They wanted to do that.We weren't going for that.That's why we threw them out.We didn't want euros here.We don't want involvement with europe.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs.and whether you like it or not, you re a nation of immigrants. the only TRUE americans are the natives. tell you what, why dont you give them their country back
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi You know nothing about this country,euro.We are Americans and those you call native were immigrants as well.Anyone born here is an American.It's my country.We actually threw the brits out of all of it.Why don't you try working out your own national problems.Likw where are all of you going to immigrate to now that you're broke.Guess it's England.Be a good little brit and kiss the Queen's ass now.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. By the way I have american friends here who refuse to go home because of the way things are out there
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Yeah,pc clowns like you.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. As to opening history books, I have a masters degree in it. You see we actually know how to read in this country. Islamofascists Another American created bogeyman. Just like the commies in the 1960s. Created a bogeyman to instill fear in the simple minded in order to justify wars for resources. China is the rising world power. At least they have culture and a sense of history. We re sick of your stupid american way consumerist crappy dream.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@AndulsiYou don't have to worry about any dream because you don't have one.We don't kiss the ass of those that attack us like euros do.The Russians would have had all of Europe if it wasn't opposed by the US after WW11.No one else was going to stand up against them.Resources?We have plenty here.Guess you don't know that either.You guys can take care of Europe this time.Merkel looks about ready.Get to marching now,bro.No Marshall Plan this time.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs. I have a friend who was in the British Army in Iraq. The American soldiers there kept asking why the Iraqis didnt embrace the American way. He used to say to them, because these people have a culture that goes back thousands of years. They re not interested in your poxy Starbucks and McDonalds consumer Bollocks. Roll on the day China becomes the World Power. At least they have a sene of culture and history.
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi Typical euro bullshit.We'll see how you like China.They'd steamroll you and your pc crap in a heartbeat.Make the brits look like humanitarians.Those soldiers weren't talking about culture.It was free elections and the ability to vote for their leader.I don't believe we should have been in there at all.What the hell do we care if Hussein gassed and killed thousands.Let them fight their own fight.
Marydawgs 2 months ago
@Marydawgs You are the amongst the most ignorant peple on the planet. The Irish are anti semites . What? all of them. Being born in Ireland makes you anti Jewish? Noew get ths clear, I absolutely oppose he Israeli state and Zionism, but I have actually no problem with Jewsh people. In fact I know many who agree with me. Your country has lorded it over e world for 50 years. It s over
Andulsi 2 months ago
@Andulsi What's over?Israel?Haaaaa,haaaaaaa,haaaaaaaa.The Israelis have more spunk than you could ever dream of having.Yeah,your people backed Hitler's Third Reich and you were dead wrong to do so.I don't give a damn what England did to Ireland.The moment of truth was upon you and you didn't do the right