Andy Ibbott is the man and change. I have both editions of his motogp technique book, brilliant writing and explanation. They are expensive, but if riding is your thing, you owe it to yourself. And get yourself a Tissot watch, too
Nice advert, oh I mean I learnt so much watching this. Next time on brand new gixxer going thru outlon on that specfic corner, il look for that marshal box. brilliant, this will helps thousands ...
Nah mate he is the MCN main tester- he tests bikes on track for a living. He basically lives on track. And he was thinking he was going as fast as he could. Its impressive.
I don't know anyone who has done all four levels with the Calif superbike school that hasn't agreed that it didn't help them. I'm a racer, not good enough to be pro, but I win almost every amateur class event and the Calif school has taught me everything! You got to do it!
I don't know who this "grump" is, but I've been to the school three times, and each time, I learned more about riding than I thought was possible in one day. Combine that with the reasonable fees (including for rental bikes), and what's not to like?
Thomas Luthi? If he was winning 24/7 I might take their advice seriously. The California Superbike school is crap. I learned 10x more in James Whitham's Superbike School DVD than through CSS.
there are afew videos for cornering - but teh best one was not a MCN one. Just do a search for cornering on a motorbike
There is one by an american guy surrounded by lots of guys, explaining how you open your hips and shoulders to the corner- its great and makes you feel a lot more conmfortable in corners.
@Badassbok Cheers for the comment. I've ridden Oulton Park six times since I made this comment so have managed to shave quite a bit off my lap time. Have also done a training school (not the California one). My comment was more reffering to how misleading the title of the clip was.
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this is an infomercial for the race school, they teach you nothing here, you must pay the money to attend the school before they teach anything, wasted my time, AND they curse God. utterly useless for me!
why doesnt using your toes to change direction (as well as counter steering obviously!) make you faster, because surely the more imput you put in the faster the bike changes direciton?
dont know what it is but i tried a few years ago while riding a straight line to move the bike left or right with my feet and it didnt turn even a little, its all bars and body weight something ibbit teaches you at the school.
correction: its all bars. do d google search for "motorbikes keith code no BS machine". Keith code is the founder of the CSS. If you dont use countersteering, you dont have steering - simple as that.
let me start by saying that im not an expert rider or anything, but when i ride i try to give the bike less inputs, fast and accurate ones is what i try to do so to not confuse the bike OR myself.
and as for using toes to change directions, try it instead of using the bottom of your feet, your able to put more weight on your legs and feet therefore your putting more weight on the pegs to help you steer, i could sit on my bike and just use the pegs to steer without using the bars
Im not an expert rider either but a veteran of many trackdays, weight on the pegs will not steer the bike, its your body weight that is shifting, always remember that smooth is fast. Fast aggressive inputs will upset the bike and you wont be relaxed on the bike either which will filter down through you into the bike, smooth actions are the key
Once you have your body positioing set up properly, the next bottleneck is generally how quickly you can get the bike to drop over. The faster you drop the bike, the quicker it turns, the quicker you can get it back upright and accelerating hard. You go deep into the corner as you can, and then turn hard, get the bike up and accerleate hard. Rather go in slower to turn quicker.
You make better lap times by accelerating hard before the straight (and maintaining a faster speed the length of the straight ) than by going into corners harder and braking hard, and not being able to smoothly and quickly lean the bike over hard. You maintain a faster speed for only a second or two by braking late instead of smoothly.
Just like in the gun world of tactics...Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
JimmyGunXD556 9 months ago in playlist Motorcycles
Timing on a trackday-tut tut !!
crispybanksy 1 year ago
Andy Ibbott is the man and change. I have both editions of his motogp technique book, brilliant writing and explanation. They are expensive, but if riding is your thing, you owe it to yourself. And get yourself a Tissot watch, too
klined 1 year ago 2
Over exceeding and overcoming the comfort levels and comfort zones actually makes a faster rider... just my .02 ☺
brutaltlr 1 year ago
That's the first time I've seen Andy Ibbot near a bike and not fall off and break his collar bone.
Fast Bikes..............when Andy started racing, muhahahaha.
God bless 'idiot', still got that mahoosive hooter!!
fuckkkingtasty 1 year ago
Nice advert, oh I mean I learnt so much watching this. Next time on brand new gixxer going thru outlon on that specfic corner, il look for that marshal box. brilliant, this will helps thousands ...
lateboy4 2 years ago
Jeeeese, your times will come down naturally in a track day anyway. he hasnt taught him anything.
kriskinealy 2 years ago
Nah mate he is the MCN main tester- he tests bikes on track for a living. He basically lives on track. And he was thinking he was going as fast as he could. Its impressive.
Badassbok 1 year ago
I don't know anyone who has done all four levels with the Calif superbike school that hasn't agreed that it didn't help them. I'm a racer, not good enough to be pro, but I win almost every amateur class event and the Calif school has taught me everything! You got to do it!
misterwipedown 2 years ago
I don't know who this "grump" is, but I've been to the school three times, and each time, I learned more about riding than I thought was possible in one day. Combine that with the reasonable fees (including for rental bikes), and what's not to like?
Urbie4 2 years ago
Thomas Luthi? If he was winning 24/7 I might take their advice seriously. The California Superbike school is crap. I learned 10x more in James Whitham's Superbike School DVD than through CSS.
grumpone 2 years ago
Each to there own mate, I swear by these guys done all levels and will keep going back.
What levels did you do ?
Anyway these guys teach at the GP level, if them guys still can learn stuff how come you cant ?
doog1998 2 years ago 2
I feel like I've just watched a 9 minute advert for the Superbike School.
I didn't get any pearls of wisdom that I was looking forward to to help me on my track day at Oulton.
MarkCopo 2 years ago 2
there are afew videos for cornering - but teh best one was not a MCN one. Just do a search for cornering on a motorbike
There is one by an american guy surrounded by lots of guys, explaining how you open your hips and shoulders to the corner- its great and makes you feel a lot more conmfortable in corners.
Badassbok 1 year ago
@Badassbok you got a link for it mate dont seem to be able to find it
Zeebo1uk 1 year ago
@Zeebo1uk
If you do a search for "ty howard pbody position" (video by jcrissey) you will fnd it. It wont accept my link
Badassbok 1 year ago
@Badassbok Cheers for the comment. I've ridden Oulton Park six times since I made this comment so have managed to shave quite a bit off my lap time. Have also done a training school (not the California one). My comment was more reffering to how misleading the title of the clip was.
MarkCopo 1 year ago
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this is an infomercial for the race school, they teach you nothing here, you must pay the money to attend the school before they teach anything, wasted my time, AND they curse God. utterly useless for me!
ribbless 3 years ago
why doesnt using your toes to change direction (as well as counter steering obviously!) make you faster, because surely the more imput you put in the faster the bike changes direciton?
TUBZ600 3 years ago
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Something tells me you can trust this guy ;)
JetFireblade 3 years ago
oh yea of course, i dont dispute that for a second, just curious at how it actually works is all
TUBZ600 3 years ago
no worries, you're right it doesn't make any sense, maybe if you tried it it would make more sense ?:/
JetFireblade 3 years ago
dont know what it is but i tried a few years ago while riding a straight line to move the bike left or right with my feet and it didnt turn even a little, its all bars and body weight something ibbit teaches you at the school.
Zeebo1uk 3 years ago
correction: its all bars. do d google search for "motorbikes keith code no BS machine". Keith code is the founder of the CSS. If you dont use countersteering, you dont have steering - simple as that.
Badassbok 1 year ago
let me start by saying that im not an expert rider or anything, but when i ride i try to give the bike less inputs, fast and accurate ones is what i try to do so to not confuse the bike OR myself.
and as for using toes to change directions, try it instead of using the bottom of your feet, your able to put more weight on your legs and feet therefore your putting more weight on the pegs to help you steer, i could sit on my bike and just use the pegs to steer without using the bars
kcracer 3 years ago
Im not an expert rider either but a veteran of many trackdays, weight on the pegs will not steer the bike, its your body weight that is shifting, always remember that smooth is fast. Fast aggressive inputs will upset the bike and you wont be relaxed on the bike either which will filter down through you into the bike, smooth actions are the key
bicster1973 2 years ago 2
Awesome video!!! Thanks for the great advice :)
motogpslider 3 years ago
Brake later, turn harder, accelerate earlier.
You can't buy advice like this ;)
Invoice is in the post
shauncarlpope33 3 years ago 2
@shauncarlpope33
Once you have your body positioing set up properly, the next bottleneck is generally how quickly you can get the bike to drop over. The faster you drop the bike, the quicker it turns, the quicker you can get it back upright and accelerating hard. You go deep into the corner as you can, and then turn hard, get the bike up and accerleate hard. Rather go in slower to turn quicker.
Badassbok 1 year ago
@shauncarlpope33
You make better lap times by accelerating hard before the straight (and maintaining a faster speed the length of the straight ) than by going into corners harder and braking hard, and not being able to smoothly and quickly lean the bike over hard. You maintain a faster speed for only a second or two by braking late instead of smoothly.
Badassbok 1 year ago