@TW157ER Please stop being foolish where worldwide there are many different types of doctors,the ones you quote are western medicine/drugs and western doctors where infact cause hospital errors,misdiagnosis,malpractice in the hundreds of thousands per year.Dr.Barbara Starfield,MD recored in JAMA that over 106000 deaths per year are due because of medical/drug doctors.I was scammed by 3 dermatologists and one of them prescribed Accutane when later had a massive lawsuit.MD's are criminals !
@TheFriendlyEngineer Yeah, all MDs are criminals, that's a sound generalisation. Worldwide the dominant form of medical practice is conventional western medicine. In China the dominant model of primary care is western supplemented with TCM. In India, its also western supplemented with Ayurveda. In the English speaking countries it's western. Iridology, coffee enemies, colonic irrigation, an obsession with candida albicans etc is just naturopathic nonsense.
@PiotrThePrimate PROPERLY PRESCRIBED pharmaceuticals kill over 250,000 people a year. One in four patients that enter the hospital do so because of these drugs and adverse effects.Dr.Barbara Starfield,MD .JAMA.These drugs are CONTROLLED POISONS. Also government studies proved in the 1950's our soil is depleted of nutrients as we have herbicides and pesticides our soil into sterility.You have a closed mind about anything alternative,you will not see them in medical journals since its not drugs
@TheFriendlyEngineer Have you been sniffing petrol? You come across as a brain dead, paranoid fruit loop. Many people with cystic acne have benefitted from Accutane. When all else has failed Accutane often works and the risks are prefereable to being pock marked for the rest of your life. You may have had a bad response to Accutane but that in and of itself demonstrates nothing.
@TW157ER The actual quackery is the medical/pharma industry.Psychiatry however is a prime example of serious fraud and pseudoscience.Preying on gullible people for money.You sound like a pharma shill.Yet drug doctors themselves come out of the medical industry to expose the fraud.Over 65000 lawsuits against drug companies within a 6 year period.The word quack means "Medical Pretender" NOT someone who does not agree with you or the marketing of pharmaceuticals,which hides behind the name science
@TW157ER Alas,you are totally wrong,md's are just graduates from a medical school which means they belong to the pharma/medical industry.They are qualified in drugs and surgery.No nutritional training etc,infact the drugs they prescribe like Actos,Vioxx,Avandia,Accutane,Zoloft,Paxil etc have killed thousands of people each year.A fact is that the pharma industry is the 4th leading cause of death worldwide.Drug doctors/MD's suppress symptoms and lead to fatal side effects.There is a difference.
@TheFriendlyEngineer All MB BS syllabi contain units on nutrition. Practitioners of "alternative medicine" also cause inadvertant deaths. As an example consider liver failure. There are deaths due to liver failure as a result of prescription medicine and herbal medicine. There are more deaths due to prescription medicine simply because more people use pharamaceuticals than herbal medications. Herbs too are "drugs" they don't work by magic.
@PiotrThePrimate Typical pharma shill,you have no facts whatsoever,allopaths suppress symptoms and perform surgery.Its a totally different field.More people use drugs? lol another blatant lie,you mean the drug companies "sell" drugs to hospitals,governments,practitioners,pharmacies etc.Drugs do more harm than good,pure magician tricks,now you see it and now you dont.It will never deal with the root causes but you are just ignorant and bias I see.Read Dr.John Virapen,he exposes big pharma.
@TheFriendlyEngineer You are a paranoid jerk. I have no conection with the pharmaceutical industry. More people _do_ consume pharmaceutical preparations than herbal preparations. "Drugs do more harm than good" is just another one of your insane generalisations.
@PiotrThePrimate there are also evidence in fraud in many clinical trials.Quack md's prescribe and continue to prescribe drugs like actos which causes bladder cancer and heart failures.Quack psychiatrists/pseudoskeptics prescribe dangerous ssri's,look at the dangers of paxil,zyprexa,ritalin etc.Imagine zyprexa causes diabetes and stroke.Pure criminal and quackery behaviour.Quacks are not people you do not agree with.It is a medical pretender/one who cannot solve problems,prefer to cover it up.
@TheFriendlyEngineer So all clinical trials are fraudulent and a cabal of hook-nosed Jews control the global financial system. You are a nutcase. Yeah SSRIs are so dangerous aren't they? How many people have died from SSRIs?
@PiotrThePrimate listen you nutcase,you apparently are arrogant to the fact that ssri's have caused over 55000 deaths within 7 years from heart failures,suicides,strokes.Accutane is also linked to gastrointestinal complications such as the IBD or Inflamatory Bowel Disease, Crohn’s Disease and the Ulcerative Colitis. There are also indicated incidences of drastic surgical treatment as a result of the Accutane treatment you shill.Hoffman La Roche was sued over 25 million for fraud.
@TheFriendlyEngineer "ssri's have caused over 55000 deaths within 7 years from heart failures,suicides,strokes" Provide the source for your data. More people have benefitted from Accutane than have suffered severe adverse reactions. There are adverse reactions and even fatalities (most often from liver failure) as a result of herbal preparations too (eg. Comfrey, Kava, Germander). So what? Does this mean that the herbal industry is evil and criminal.
@PiotrThePrimate You apparently have no clue what you are talking about and prefer to protect the criminal and fraudulent activity in that industry,that makes you a con artist.Read the lawsuits pal,stop wasting your time on asanine sites like wikipedia and quackwatch aka scam artist stephen barrett who lost over 42 lawsuits and never had facts but biased opinions about everything alternative.You guys promote false conspiracies and misleading data.Don't get me started on psychiatry quackery!
@TheFriendlyEngineer You are clearly unhinged: you exhibit paranoia and you seem to believe that you can read my mind. None of what I have posted is from either Quackwatch or Wikipedia. If you know how to use PubMed you can retrieve adverse reaction reports, toxicology reports and papers on drug induced liver failure that cover both prescription drugs and herbal preparations. Any medicinal preparation whether pharmaceutical or herbal has the potential to poison someone.
@TheFriendlyEngineer "You guys promote false conspiracies and misleading data." Who is "you guys"? In your paranoid little world anyone that disagrees with your foaming at the mouth denunciations of conventional medicine is a "shill", a co-conspirator. I can cite you a pile of papers that document cases of liver failure due to herbal preparations but you will just retort that they are all fake.
@TheFriendlyEngineer It is you that has no idea what you are talking about. Most drugs -- phrama and herbal -- are metabolised by the cytochrome P450 superfamily of enzymes. A small proportion of the population (in the order of 1 in 20,0000) are born with certain genetic polymorphisms related to this enzyme family that render them poor metabolizers of a wide range of drugs (including herbs). Clinical trials usually have n=5000 so they will not detect these poor metabolisers.
Did you actually watch the videos? If you did you would realize that the whole point of the videos is to tell people what training a qualified complementary therapist should have. Naturopathic Doctors are Doctors of Naturopathy and have received significant medical training in a certified academic institution. We too disagree with people going to unqualified practitioners. I think I will stick with my truth. Wishing you Bright Blessings.
@naturalchoice1 "I think I will stick with my truth" This statement condenses, concentrates and crystalises the fact that you are a quack. That you deprecate the notion of objectivity advertises that you have NOTHING in common with conventional medical practice. Naturopathy is bunkum. One of the main diagnostic methods of naturopathy is _iridology_ -- a practice which has no evidentiary basis. There is merit in herbalism but naturopathy is just junk.
@TW157ER Please stop being foolish where worldwide there are many different types of doctors,the ones you quote are western medicine/drugs and western doctors where infact cause hospital errors,misdiagnosis,malpractice in the hundreds of thousands per year.Dr.Barbara Starfield,MD recored in JAMA that over 106000 deaths per year are due because of medical/drug doctors.I was scammed by 3 dermatologists and one of them prescribed Accutane when later had a massive lawsuit.MD's are criminals !
TheFriendlyEngineer 4 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer Yeah, all MDs are criminals, that's a sound generalisation. Worldwide the dominant form of medical practice is conventional western medicine. In China the dominant model of primary care is western supplemented with TCM. In India, its also western supplemented with Ayurveda. In the English speaking countries it's western. Iridology, coffee enemies, colonic irrigation, an obsession with candida albicans etc is just naturopathic nonsense.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@PiotrThePrimate correction: enemas
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
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@PiotrThePrimate PROPERLY PRESCRIBED pharmaceuticals kill over 250,000 people a year. One in four patients that enter the hospital do so because of these drugs and adverse effects.Dr.Barbara Starfield,MD .JAMA.These drugs are CONTROLLED POISONS. Also government studies proved in the 1950's our soil is depleted of nutrients as we have herbicides and pesticides our soil into sterility.You have a closed mind about anything alternative,you will not see them in medical journals since its not drugs
TheFriendlyEngineer 2 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer Have you been sniffing petrol? You come across as a brain dead, paranoid fruit loop. Many people with cystic acne have benefitted from Accutane. When all else has failed Accutane often works and the risks are prefereable to being pock marked for the rest of your life. You may have had a bad response to Accutane but that in and of itself demonstrates nothing.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@TW157ER The actual quackery is the medical/pharma industry.Psychiatry however is a prime example of serious fraud and pseudoscience.Preying on gullible people for money.You sound like a pharma shill.Yet drug doctors themselves come out of the medical industry to expose the fraud.Over 65000 lawsuits against drug companies within a 6 year period.The word quack means "Medical Pretender" NOT someone who does not agree with you or the marketing of pharmaceuticals,which hides behind the name science
TheFriendlyEngineer 4 months ago
@TW157ER Alas,you are totally wrong,md's are just graduates from a medical school which means they belong to the pharma/medical industry.They are qualified in drugs and surgery.No nutritional training etc,infact the drugs they prescribe like Actos,Vioxx,Avandia,Accutane,Zoloft,Paxil etc have killed thousands of people each year.A fact is that the pharma industry is the 4th leading cause of death worldwide.Drug doctors/MD's suppress symptoms and lead to fatal side effects.There is a difference.
TheFriendlyEngineer 4 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer All MB BS syllabi contain units on nutrition. Practitioners of "alternative medicine" also cause inadvertant deaths. As an example consider liver failure. There are deaths due to liver failure as a result of prescription medicine and herbal medicine. There are more deaths due to prescription medicine simply because more people use pharamaceuticals than herbal medications. Herbs too are "drugs" they don't work by magic.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@PiotrThePrimate Typical pharma shill,you have no facts whatsoever,allopaths suppress symptoms and perform surgery.Its a totally different field.More people use drugs? lol another blatant lie,you mean the drug companies "sell" drugs to hospitals,governments,practitioners,pharmacies etc.Drugs do more harm than good,pure magician tricks,now you see it and now you dont.It will never deal with the root causes but you are just ignorant and bias I see.Read Dr.John Virapen,he exposes big pharma.
TheFriendlyEngineer 2 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer You are a paranoid jerk. I have no conection with the pharmaceutical industry. More people _do_ consume pharmaceutical preparations than herbal preparations. "Drugs do more harm than good" is just another one of your insane generalisations.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@PiotrThePrimate there are also evidence in fraud in many clinical trials.Quack md's prescribe and continue to prescribe drugs like actos which causes bladder cancer and heart failures.Quack psychiatrists/pseudoskeptics prescribe dangerous ssri's,look at the dangers of paxil,zyprexa,ritalin etc.Imagine zyprexa causes diabetes and stroke.Pure criminal and quackery behaviour.Quacks are not people you do not agree with.It is a medical pretender/one who cannot solve problems,prefer to cover it up.
TheFriendlyEngineer 2 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer So all clinical trials are fraudulent and a cabal of hook-nosed Jews control the global financial system. You are a nutcase. Yeah SSRIs are so dangerous aren't they? How many people have died from SSRIs?
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@PiotrThePrimate listen you nutcase,you apparently are arrogant to the fact that ssri's have caused over 55000 deaths within 7 years from heart failures,suicides,strokes.Accutane is also linked to gastrointestinal complications such as the IBD or Inflamatory Bowel Disease, Crohn’s Disease and the Ulcerative Colitis. There are also indicated incidences of drastic surgical treatment as a result of the Accutane treatment you shill.Hoffman La Roche was sued over 25 million for fraud.
TheFriendlyEngineer 2 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer "ssri's have caused over 55000 deaths within 7 years from heart failures,suicides,strokes" Provide the source for your data. More people have benefitted from Accutane than have suffered severe adverse reactions. There are adverse reactions and even fatalities (most often from liver failure) as a result of herbal preparations too (eg. Comfrey, Kava, Germander). So what? Does this mean that the herbal industry is evil and criminal.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@PiotrThePrimate You apparently have no clue what you are talking about and prefer to protect the criminal and fraudulent activity in that industry,that makes you a con artist.Read the lawsuits pal,stop wasting your time on asanine sites like wikipedia and quackwatch aka scam artist stephen barrett who lost over 42 lawsuits and never had facts but biased opinions about everything alternative.You guys promote false conspiracies and misleading data.Don't get me started on psychiatry quackery!
TheFriendlyEngineer 2 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer You are clearly unhinged: you exhibit paranoia and you seem to believe that you can read my mind. None of what I have posted is from either Quackwatch or Wikipedia. If you know how to use PubMed you can retrieve adverse reaction reports, toxicology reports and papers on drug induced liver failure that cover both prescription drugs and herbal preparations. Any medicinal preparation whether pharmaceutical or herbal has the potential to poison someone.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer "You guys promote false conspiracies and misleading data." Who is "you guys"? In your paranoid little world anyone that disagrees with your foaming at the mouth denunciations of conventional medicine is a "shill", a co-conspirator. I can cite you a pile of papers that document cases of liver failure due to herbal preparations but you will just retort that they are all fake.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@TheFriendlyEngineer It is you that has no idea what you are talking about. Most drugs -- phrama and herbal -- are metabolised by the cytochrome P450 superfamily of enzymes. A small proportion of the population (in the order of 1 in 20,0000) are born with certain genetic polymorphisms related to this enzyme family that render them poor metabolizers of a wide range of drugs (including herbs). Clinical trials usually have n=5000 so they will not detect these poor metabolisers.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@TW157ER
Did you actually watch the videos? If you did you would realize that the whole point of the videos is to tell people what training a qualified complementary therapist should have. Naturopathic Doctors are Doctors of Naturopathy and have received significant medical training in a certified academic institution. We too disagree with people going to unqualified practitioners. I think I will stick with my truth. Wishing you Bright Blessings.
naturalchoice1 7 months ago
@naturalchoice1 "I think I will stick with my truth" This statement condenses, concentrates and crystalises the fact that you are a quack. That you deprecate the notion of objectivity advertises that you have NOTHING in common with conventional medical practice. Naturopathy is bunkum. One of the main diagnostic methods of naturopathy is _iridology_ -- a practice which has no evidentiary basis. There is merit in herbalism but naturopathy is just junk.
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago
@TW157ER
Dear Tw1s7ter
In truth, naturalpathic doctors often have more training than many doctors. Narrow mindedness and ignorance is not something one should flaunt.
naturalchoice1 8 months ago
@naturalchoice1 No they don't and the word is "naturopathic".
PiotrThePrimate 2 months ago