balkan gypsy(romani) scale on Electric guitar

[ranciodelsurf]

sorry dude, i hear lots of balkan music (fanfare ciocarlia, mahala rai banda, kokani orkestar, taraf de haidouks, marco and boban marcovic, etc, etc, etc) and wath you´re playing doesnt sound gypsy at all, it just sund like a bunch of random notes played fast, sorry dude thats the truth

[rozns]

@ranciodelsurf

Hi.

Well probably im not a listener and/or expert in balkan music as you(seriously).

I know only few of the names that youve mentioned.

But what i do know,from my musical analysis,Is that the use of diminished scale upon a major(or dominant 7th)

chord is used only in balkan gypsey(&jazz) music and gives it a lot of its distinctive sound.

[rozns]

@ranciodelsurf

(comment to long to fit in 1 text box)lol :)

I listen to some Romica Puceanu,and heared some taraf de haidouks&other romanian traditional groups.

Wherein a lot of times the dulcimer plays the diminshed scale while the accordion plays the dominant 7th chord.

I Haven't used here anything else except this technique and harmonic minor -

so theres alot more gypsies techniques i didn't use and i don't know.

Thanks for you sincerity :)

[ranciodelsurf]

sure men, ill steal some of your ideas so i have a sound a little balkie on my next solo :), but still remember that many modes on gypsy music are at first ideological and traditional (their fathers played that way, and their parents and so on) rather than follow a european music logic greetings dude

[rozns]

@ranciodelsurf

you're more than welcome to use it :)

you're right about the tradition - the diminished scale is persian in its origin(atleast thats what wikipedia says),

while the romani are presumingbly from India.

I just use the "european" terms because they are known standards in todays music.

[jettscreemr]

excuse me? but I'm pretty sure there is no such animal . . my advice to you is learn the scale (probably Phrygian is what you were attempting) then you can modify and improvise without the worry of making discords and general musical nonsense.

[rozns]

youre right - there isnt such a specific scale called gypsy scale...

now read the description of the video and youll understand what scales i did use

(not just phyrigian mode...).

[fleurn0]

nice, but seems to be quite out of sync (the video)... what guitar's that?...

[primussux]

this is pretty sweet except it doesn't really show you/teach anything!!

[jazzlefty]

is out of tune

[MissRachelle18]

really quiet. should have dirtied up your tone a little, but I like the confidence it takes to lead clean.