Even though legal in all 50 states in my state of CA I can still see people getting in trouble for having this. Now imagine trying to explain "bump fire" to a LA County judge who knows dick about guns.
Why in the fuck would you ask the ATF about such a thing. Jesus. Just buy or build the goddamn thing and use it. The ATF can't even keep up with fast and furious.
It's legal because it's equivilant to pulling the trigger repeatedly that's why the ATF endorse the product, people will rapid fire weapons that's a fact but this allows people to do it safer and more controlled as well as picking up some rate of fire for the average joe
I'm quite sure it is legal in California o own this stock if not look into an su-16 model and hope they make a slide stock for it because the su-16 does not have a pistol grip it is legal in California although it is actually
@PRSwannabe nope don't need anything just uses the recoil from gun same as regular bump firing Sept u can shoulder your rifle and accurately bump fire
I'm sure it's been asked, CAN I HAVE THIS WONDERFUL DEVICE IN Well california? 10 rounds and a dummy button would make this take some time to regroup but it looks very fun. But I like my gun and my freedom. Don't wanna be judged and then bars.
The problem is.. if you want to hit your target, you have to have your face in a fixed position to aim.. oops.. just bloodied your no This is for those that cannot take the punishment of real shooting, but not worried about accuracy...
i live in nj, and am wondering if this would be legal to have in NJ and other postban states such as connecticut, california, massachusetts etc. i doubt it but figured i would ask
@shortththrown50 they make a compacted copper round that military and law enforcement use for practice at short range...if its not what he's using ...then he's crazy
this product is awesome!.. ive got one on all of my rifles.. but what really fuckin my head up is you only have to be 18 to buy!.. cant even buy ammo here till 21!.. thats whats buggin me out!..
@a1cdoddy frangible ammo doesn't ricochet like that. If you shot steel regularly with jacketed ammo instead of playing BF2, you would know what it sounded like.
@gunsandguitars Why does everyone on youtube think i'm like 13 years old playing xbox? i'm actually 22 and have been a cop in the air force for 4 years, i've shot many steel targets with FMJ ammunition and frangible ammunition regularly overseas at indoor ranges and i've heard the same sound come from a high powered 5.56 round hitting steel, check the response video i'm posting....i'm not sure what "ricochet" you're referring to...maybe the powder hitting the ground?
These aren't that awesome. I didn't even put mine on before I realized you cant use most sling attachments ect. Unless you have a dedicated rifle to toy with it...DONT BUY IT. Not to mention 350$? Really? It cost you guys that much to make it?
@AvohHD Right...but you would want to build a rifle just for it. You can't put as many toys on it as you would think. I mean what good is a rifle if you cant put a sling on? Its not technically full auto mode, it just assists in bump firing. Its cool, but at the end of the day the rifle is moving more then it has to and therefore isn't as accurate. I'm not a purist or anything, but it just wasn't for me.
@olfixjmm I'm not complaining about the price. I just said you cant put a slight attachment in the back. It takes away from the rifle being tactical. It would be fun to throw on a basic setup though.
This is why gun control laws just need to fuck off and die. We have these, and I don't see automatic weapons fire mowing down tons of people a day in the US.
I got one for my bushmaster patrolman m4a2 from my gun store. A friend who works ther hooked me up with it for 200. I love it! But man I got to get more ammo ;)
Something calling itself @11Bravoshitbag screached: bla bla bla "and i hold a degree in defense engineering! you shouldnt assume than you know who your talking to on the other end DICK!"
You sound more like an angry teenager on a mental ward who's gone off of his meds. How did you get internet access? Now, go tell the nice nurse that the voices and delusions are back, she'll talk to the Dr and get you back on your meds.
@mikeah9000 Don't worry about the pinheads that brag about their pedigrees.. especially one in "defense engineering" (huh?). This douchgbag turned to the second-to-the-last page in some smut book, paid his $14.95 and got his "degree" (caugh) at one of these diploma mills most likely. I'm getting my MASTERS next week in "YouTube Post Replies in North America." Its kind of like a degree in PolySci - not worth much unless you are headed into academia. Later days.
@11Bravoshitbag What kind of tools are we talking about? How about injection molding machines for starters. Go price one. None of your other babble has anything to do with anything, other than to prove that you can pass for a 13 year old throwing a tantrum and write remarkably like one to.
@11Bravoshitbag They justify it because, unlike you, they have a clue what it costs for R&D, tool up costs and everything else it takes to bring a manufactured product to market. You should go get a clue before you start babbling. Just leave the firearms and firearm accessories to people who can afford them.
@11Bravoshitbag Hey shitbag, the price is justified by the people who choose to pay for it, it is economics 101. If you believe that $350 is too much, then you still have the freedom to choose not to buy it. No one is forcing you to buy an overpriced product, oh wait, I forgot about Obamacare.
@wwwE5150com hey retarded hillbilly, if people like you didn't willingly pay ridiculous prices for things that simply shouldn't cost that much, it wouldn't be $350. you're never forced to buy a product that is egregiously overpriced simply because it is the only thing out there. oh wait, i forgot about privatized healthcare. (p.s. go stick glenn beck's cock back in your mouth and quit making all shooters look like inbred morons)
at one time the 10 .22 had a after market bump fire stock and it worked the same way it was legal but the atf outlawed it and had everyone that bought one remove the spring and ship it to them on the honor system .....lol
Buy them now boys! In multiples!!! The ATF is very likely going to re-write the law to include non-mechanical devices that allow a weapon to act as if it is an automatic. The existing law never foresaw this coming, but clearly is intended not to allow the outcome that this device does allow. These are likely to be worth a significant amount of money as soon as they are made a regulated device.
Admittedly this looks like a fun toy to own however lets look a the bigger picture. First iand foremeost ts just a matter of time before the ATF changes their mind on this item. Second there really is no practical use for full auto on a individual battle rifle (tactically speaking). Third unless you have a top of the line AR that is made to put up with alot of abuse this thing will rattle the screws out of your bargain basement ARs. They just arent made for this rate of fire. I'm just sayin....
@steve001968 Yeah well, I did take a look at one recently at a gun show and I gotta tell ya, there ain't rocket science involved here. Everyone making a product has R&D costs, they just don't over inflate the price. I just bought my kid an S&W M&P-15 brand new for just over $600. You think more R&D went into the M&P or the bump fire stock gimmick?
@steve001968 Of course it did. But look what your getting with an M&P as compared to a cheep piece of injection molded plastic with a spring in it. So no...It doesn't make sense at all. It's like comparing a big wheel to a Harley. R&D went into the collapsible OEM stock also, but it doesn't cost half as much as the gun.
The stock is a niche item. A lot more people will probably buy the M&P than the stock no matter what it costs so the cost per unit has to be proportionately higher to make it profitable. You are not going to design and produce that stock and sell if for $100 or anything like that and make a profit in spite of what some people seem to think. If you could someone already would have. At the quantity that would sell even at that price it would take you 10 years to make a profit on it.
@steve001968 Yes, I agree with all of that. The manufacture has a choice. Sell less at higher price to recoup faster, or sell more at lower price & recoup over a period of years. IMO, this is one of those things where I really feel I'm not getting what I'm paying for. The AR platform isn't going anywhere soon and there's millions of them out there. I hope they made the right choice & do well with sales.
@justadbeer The other thing that drives the cost on anything like this is the fact that the manufacturer never knows how long before all their R&D, manufacturing and marketing effort goes up in smoke either because of a ruling by some unelected ATF beaurocrat that their product is suddenly illegal, or some new law passed by congress. This last especially is the biggest thing that stifles development of anything that is likely to be called an 'assault weapon'. How long before the next ban?
@AnomymousPoster I have a feeling the ATF can "approve" or "dissaprove" whatever the hell they want, gun related. Especially when it's about rapid firing devices.
@AnomymousPoster you are correct the ATF does not "approve" buttstocks.. but this is what they had to say about it.. "accordingly, we find that the "bump-stock" is a firearm part and is NOT regulated as a firearm under the Gun Control Act or National Firearms Act."
@AnomymousPoster They don't approve them, but they sure can come down hard on something if they just feel like it. Don't forget the Akins Accelerator, which worked on exactly the same principal, but involved a return spring.
I think all these "gadgets" just go to prove how Stupid Gun Control Laws are. These "Gadgets" will also provide fodder for the anti-gun crowd and the "Fuds" in the Gun community to want to ban semi-auto "Assault" Look-alike weapons! We need to get rid of all of these stupid laws beginning with the 1934 NFA and 1968 Kennedy Gun Laws. There is no reason why a law abiding American should not be allowed to own a select fire weapon, without paying $15,000.00 for a pre-86 NFA weapon!! It's all BS!
Agreed. When you compare the amount of crime committed with legally held weapons against those committed with illegal arms, the figures speak for themselves.
@french6290 actualy all gun laws infringe on 2A... some are there because unfortunatly they need to be but some are there just because.... the dumb laws need to go.
@ShutUpFoolStudios It are the statements such as yours that fuel anti-gun legislature. The left-winged non-patriot's would love for everyone to buy into the fantasy that someone is going to amass this ungodly arsenal and take on their entire city. The reality is that their are nut jobs out there, and they are capable of monstrous actions with or without help from an automatic weapon. Besides, I could easily take out more targets with single rate of fire than selective rate.
@ShutUpFoolStudios Has that ever happened? no it hasn't all the mass shooting were commited by people who bought weapons illegally(aka by passing the shitty gun laws) in gun free zones where CCW holders couldn't pull out there gun and shoot back, and the people were ill many were depressed and lonley, you make it seem as a noraml person touches a gun it changes them, it doesn't i have fired guns and theyare fun it doesn't turn you into a killer you do that to yourself
so technicaly this would be completely legal in canada for anyone with a pal......its still 1 shot with 1 pull of the trigger, and the trigger is not modified....neat-o.
To each his own, but the cost of the tax stamp is not what keeps most folks from buying a real mg. It's the government butt raping and the outrageous cost of the gun itself.
@didactomy LMAO then you can pay another 15K - 20K for the weapon itself assuming you live in a state where they are legal and assuming your CLEO will sign off etc etc etc.
@smartstufftobuy I think he is using the 15-22 which fires .22 cal instead if .223 that's why it sounds like a plinker.
pete7645 3 days ago
+1 if you want to see this on a Benelli M3 with an AR buffer.
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AfrikaaBombeetza 1 week ago
why is this so quite at 3:08? i dont see a silencer???? also, you are too close to a solid metal target, couldnt that ricochet?
smartstuff2buy 1 week ago
nice but i still love my o trusty magpul great vid thoe
Diceman12100 1 week ago
Even though legal in all 50 states in my state of CA I can still see people getting in trouble for having this. Now imagine trying to explain "bump fire" to a LA County judge who knows dick about guns.
obatron1 1 week ago 2
awesome stock if you want to just shoot shit, i have on and love it but good luck hitting anything with the stock bouncing around everywhere.
delzottoj 1 week ago
Awesome man.
SuperRip7 1 week ago
Hope news agencies doesn't make idiotic judgement on these stocks.
5687678 1 week ago
Holy Crap!
paulmax72 1 week ago
Now imagine some gangsters getting a hold of these things.
ITSbigwillystyle 2 weeks ago
@ITSbigwillystyle Why when they have ak47`s....
Haterade330 1 week ago
Why in the fuck would you ask the ATF about such a thing. Jesus. Just buy or build the goddamn thing and use it. The ATF can't even keep up with fast and furious.
rrhynes 2 weeks ago
It's legal because it's equivilant to pulling the trigger repeatedly that's why the ATF endorse the product, people will rapid fire weapons that's a fact but this allows people to do it safer and more controlled as well as picking up some rate of fire for the average joe
I'm quite sure it is legal in California o own this stock if not look into an su-16 model and hope they make a slide stock for it because the su-16 does not have a pistol grip it is legal in California although it is actually
ScUbAxStEv3 2 weeks ago
sold my ar and now i see this wtf
libertyphoenix777 2 weeks ago
very nice
AmericanelST205 2 weeks ago
lol how the fuck is it legal
TheM2heavy 3 weeks ago
I've got to have one.
JRod350 4 weeks ago
Why?
910burns 1 month ago
@910burns
Because its just plain old F-U-N.
Breakneckhydra1 3 weeks ago
@910burns When one asks why, one must also ask why not.
Nationofhonor 2 weeks ago
watch?v=KhRH5QH8-1o frangible ammuntion impacting steel targets
a1cdoddy 1 month ago
@PRSwannabe nope don't need anything just uses the recoil from gun same as regular bump firing Sept u can shoulder your rifle and accurately bump fire
RandyU1 1 month ago
Do you need a special bolt and firing pin to shoot fuul auto.
PRSwannaB 1 month ago
I'm sure it's been asked, CAN I HAVE THIS WONDERFUL DEVICE IN Well california? 10 rounds and a dummy button would make this take some time to regroup but it looks very fun. But I like my gun and my freedom. Don't wanna be judged and then bars.
pondmuck 1 month ago
Would it be easier to have a Tgrip on it?
DJBucca 1 month ago
Can I put this on the AR I already own?
azfreedom1 1 month ago
@azfreedom1 Yes
mordhaus100 1 month ago
Can it be done with a SHOTGUN???
sort187 1 month ago
you probably thought this was full auto, nope bump fire
MrFluffy112 1 month ago
BEAUTIFUL!!! I am buying an AR soon and this WILL be on the list.
SicotheClown 1 month ago
if it's frangible ammo, should be fine.
bigbuffwolf1 1 month ago
I have one its awesome
jiggamanlu 1 month ago
Nope it's just a bump fire device. It's still completely semi automatic.
bennpapa 1 month ago
you dont have to have a class 3 to buy this right?
kittyhunter34 1 month ago
Imagine that with a .50 Beowolf LOL
DirtRider500R 1 month ago 8
@DirtRider500R my mind. you have blown it
ELITEHAMSTER123 1 month ago
@DirtRider500R
Dude, just shut up...actually, never mind, DO IT!!!
SicotheClown 1 month ago
@DirtRider500R A pistol round?
Haterade330 1 week ago
@Haterade330 /watch?v=0CrUARlmqso
DirtRider500R 1 week ago
@DirtRider500R hahahaha someone should do it...they already have it on the saiga 12k
2012merrittmaya 1 week ago
Very informative video..thanks!
djbjrb 1 month ago
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zakkwide 1 month ago
to bad they only make these for ARs
caseyreavis 1 month ago
@caseyreavis now for aks ssak47
TheAlexagius 1 month ago
Watch the rear sight when some of them are shooting and tell me if you think it is going to be accurate.
IlI63BRAVOIIl 1 month ago
Put a spring between the reciever and the stock so that it retracts upon recoil, and protracts subsequently.
= Profit
porrsmurfen 1 month ago
@porrsmurfen There has already been one made, but it got banned
nooboftheforest 1 month ago
No shit ricochea
jackm3r 1 month ago
Wow I made some sci fi weapons and this idea came up when drawing the I find this. I guess I was too late.
NeonVars 1 month ago
Its not worth the 230$ for it.
adamlehmanpyro 1 month ago
do they make these to fit a mossberg tactical 22?
TwinTurboTT 1 month ago
@TwinTurboTT no, 22lr wont have enough recoil.
nalBleeding 1 month ago
The problem is.. if you want to hit your target, you have to have your face in a fixed position to aim.. oops.. just bloodied your no This is for those that cannot take the punishment of real shooting, but not worried about accuracy...
genroc2005 1 month ago
@ 00:36 Why does he keep lowering the rifle?
getemhi 1 month ago
so you do not have to have a liscense to own fully automatic weapons to buy this stock, correct?
trackstar4795 1 month ago
i live in nj, and am wondering if this would be legal to have in NJ and other postban states such as connecticut, california, massachusetts etc. i doubt it but figured i would ask
Sicherheitsmasnahmen 1 month ago
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Sicherheitsmasnahmen 1 month ago
and people say gun control laws are to strict??
somethinglikeaninja1 1 month ago
@somethinglikeaninja1 They are too strict!
CODproR19 1 month ago
@somethinglikeaninja1 I can tell you do not live in CA :(
MrMikeSam 1 month ago
i'd like to see it get expanded into other platforms as well. hope it doesn't go the way of the atkins accelerator
pigoutultra 1 month ago
I AM FPS AMERICA
TheDangerZone999 1 month ago
Little close to that target ? I can hear the ricochet, untrained I take it and that would not be nice if you got hit with flaming hot metal .
GregGreg1983 1 month ago
I wonder if this would work on a M&P15-22?
notanotch1107 2 months ago
@notanotch1107 im wondering the same thing!!
chiefs61647394 1 month ago
this is very tempting lol.
36ronjon 2 months ago
@shortththrown50 they make a compacted copper round that military and law enforcement use for practice at short range...if its not what he's using ...then he's crazy
cxrxuxe 2 months ago
this product is awesome!.. ive got one on all of my rifles.. but what really fuckin my head up is you only have to be 18 to buy!.. cant even buy ammo here till 21!.. thats whats buggin me out!..
pistol555pete 2 months ago
.223 at a steel plate 5 feet in front of the shooter. guy must have shit for brains
shortthrow50 2 months ago
@shortthrow50 shoooting frangiable ammo.
crashland123 2 months ago
is this legal in ny?
dude444666444 2 months ago
these will only be legal until some dumbass shoots up a school with one of these stocks attached....
MichaelCalise 2 months ago
@MichaelCalise I swear that the people who make these laws pay some lunatics to do them.
CrocoDuck420 2 months ago
CA- legal?
leloodallasmultipass 2 months ago
@leloodallasmultipass Oh yeah.
CrocoDuck420 2 months ago
@CrocoDuck420 yes!!!
leloodallasmultipass 2 months ago
@leloodallasmultipass Dont mean to be a dick but i feel sorry 4 u if u live in CA
scottymcphat 2 months ago
@scottymcphat ugh, i know.
leloodallasmultipass 2 months ago
I'm not so sure shooting a .223 at such close range on steel is a wise idea.
gunsandguitars 2 months ago 36
@gunsandguitars he was shooting 9mm at the steel target.
weaponrychannel 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars He was probably using frangible ammunition.
theaustralianshooter 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars he's most likely using frangible ammo.
AT4ROCKET 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars it could have been frangible ammo.
iiNeVeRShOOt 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars it was probably frangible ammo. you can shoot steel at almost point black with that stuff
thetrashrabbit 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars Normally, I would agree, but the ammunition they're using sounds really strange. I'm sure they were using a special type of ammo.
theawesomepwn 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars He probably used frangible ammo.... It basically turns to powder when it hits steel. But i did hear a ricochet.
drewkipow 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars It is a 22LR conversion/
NCHeel 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars if you use frangible ammo it would be but FMJ wise your correct.
Skyde67 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars frangible ammo would be relatively safe wouldnt it?
slkempf8907 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars Its called frangible ammunition its hard packed powder that dissipates upon impact
a1cdoddy 1 month ago
@a1cdoddy frangible ammo doesn't ricochet like that. If you shot steel regularly with jacketed ammo instead of playing BF2, you would know what it sounded like.
gunsandguitars 1 month ago
@gunsandguitars Why does everyone on youtube think i'm like 13 years old playing xbox? i'm actually 22 and have been a cop in the air force for 4 years, i've shot many steel targets with FMJ ammunition and frangible ammunition regularly overseas at indoor ranges and i've heard the same sound come from a high powered 5.56 round hitting steel, check the response video i'm posting....i'm not sure what "ricochet" you're referring to...maybe the powder hitting the ground?
a1cdoddy 1 month ago
Nice Vid and Nice product. I just looked at a 12g a. in a AR frame. I gotta own one of those babes.
1rico68 3 months ago
thas cool
drifterguy4 3 months ago
These aren't that awesome. I didn't even put mine on before I realized you cant use most sling attachments ect. Unless you have a dedicated rifle to toy with it...DONT BUY IT. Not to mention 350$? Really? It cost you guys that much to make it?
teamhex 3 months ago
@teamhex $350 dollars for full auto mode? I think that's a pretty good deal if you ask me...
AvohHD 3 months ago
@AvohHD Right...but you would want to build a rifle just for it. You can't put as many toys on it as you would think. I mean what good is a rifle if you cant put a sling on? Its not technically full auto mode, it just assists in bump firing. Its cool, but at the end of the day the rifle is moving more then it has to and therefore isn't as accurate. I'm not a purist or anything, but it just wasn't for me.
teamhex 3 months ago
@teamhex you arent paying for the stock your paying for the idea
olfixjmm 3 months ago
@olfixjmm I'm not complaining about the price. I just said you cant put a slight attachment in the back. It takes away from the rifle being tactical. It would be fun to throw on a basic setup though.
teamhex 3 months ago
Nice , good post , where can I get one ??
mb666100 4 months ago
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LowRoller420 4 months ago
This is why gun control laws just need to fuck off and die. We have these, and I don't see automatic weapons fire mowing down tons of people a day in the US.
DeadFishFactory 4 months ago
How gun control works: Ban some type of weapon, then invent a different type. One of the good points of Darwinism.
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@TheGumby625 and @axboxaddict1125 Do any of u guys no how much this is i want one for my tactical ak47
treverlid87 5 months ago
I have this on my AR-15! It's awesome!
xboxaddict1125 5 months ago
@xboxaddict1125 your 12 years old with a video about cleaning a clarinet
prestonjr110 4 months ago
I got one for my bushmaster patrolman m4a2 from my gun store. A friend who works ther hooked me up with it for 200. I love it! But man I got to get more ammo ;)
TheGumby625 5 months ago
@TheGumby625 LOL
gregsdates 2 weeks ago
they should make one for the tommy!
INbredMonarchy 6 months ago
Something calling itself @11Bravoshitbag screached: bla bla bla "and i hold a degree in defense engineering! you shouldnt assume than you know who your talking to on the other end DICK!"
You sound more like an angry teenager on a mental ward who's gone off of his meds. How did you get internet access? Now, go tell the nice nurse that the voices and delusions are back, she'll talk to the Dr and get you back on your meds.
mikeah9000 6 months ago
@mikeah9000 Don't worry about the pinheads that brag about their pedigrees.. especially one in "defense engineering" (huh?). This douchgbag turned to the second-to-the-last page in some smut book, paid his $14.95 and got his "degree" (caugh) at one of these diploma mills most likely. I'm getting my MASTERS next week in "YouTube Post Replies in North America." Its kind of like a degree in PolySci - not worth much unless you are headed into academia. Later days.
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@11Bravoshitbag What kind of tools are we talking about? How about injection molding machines for starters. Go price one. None of your other babble has anything to do with anything, other than to prove that you can pass for a 13 year old throwing a tantrum and write remarkably like one to.
steve001968 6 months ago
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steve001968 6 months ago
@11Bravoshitbag They justify it because, unlike you, they have a clue what it costs for R&D, tool up costs and everything else it takes to bring a manufactured product to market. You should go get a clue before you start babbling. Just leave the firearms and firearm accessories to people who can afford them.
steve001968 6 months ago
THANK YOU. This pretty much throws the pre86 ban out the window. Will there be a version for stamped AK receivers?
GeetarGuy505 6 months ago
as soon as you make the price reasonable I might consider buying it
mckerob 7 months ago
Will it work with a 22 conversion kit?
americanmade1996 7 months ago
@americanmade1996
they wont, not enough recoil is produced
bmil69 7 months ago
@11Bravoshitbag Heh, there's not even a spring. But some people will pay quite a bit of money to waste ammo faster, so more power to them.
AreThereNoMoreNames 7 months ago
That thing is fucking awesome! Too bad I m too cheap to buy the ammo for that.
rightwingconservativ 8 months ago
@11Bravoshitbag Hey shitbag, the price is justified by the people who choose to pay for it, it is economics 101. If you believe that $350 is too much, then you still have the freedom to choose not to buy it. No one is forcing you to buy an overpriced product, oh wait, I forgot about Obamacare.
wwwE5150com 8 months ago 17
@wwwE5150com hey retarded hillbilly, if people like you didn't willingly pay ridiculous prices for things that simply shouldn't cost that much, it wouldn't be $350. you're never forced to buy a product that is egregiously overpriced simply because it is the only thing out there. oh wait, i forgot about privatized healthcare. (p.s. go stick glenn beck's cock back in your mouth and quit making all shooters look like inbred morons)
burblx 2 months ago
@wwwE5150com sounds like someone else gave you your opinion on economics, because you obviously haven't thought much about this for yourself.
pleasereason 2 months ago
at one time the 10 .22 had a after market bump fire stock and it worked the same way it was legal but the atf outlawed it and had everyone that bought one remove the spring and ship it to them on the honor system .....lol
atnipjoe 8 months ago
I hope they are working on one for my M1A and AK. Heck I might have to go out and buy a AR now.
semperfi211 8 months ago
You bunch of screwsticks, if you don't want to pay the 349.00, go make your own, if you have that much intelligence...
harristl45 9 months ago
Buy them now boys! In multiples!!! The ATF is very likely going to re-write the law to include non-mechanical devices that allow a weapon to act as if it is an automatic. The existing law never foresaw this coming, but clearly is intended not to allow the outcome that this device does allow. These are likely to be worth a significant amount of money as soon as they are made a regulated device.
angurisloud 9 months ago
who ever invented this is fucking beast
LorenF1998 9 months ago
Admittedly this looks like a fun toy to own however lets look a the bigger picture. First iand foremeost ts just a matter of time before the ATF changes their mind on this item. Second there really is no practical use for full auto on a individual battle rifle (tactically speaking). Third unless you have a top of the line AR that is made to put up with alot of abuse this thing will rattle the screws out of your bargain basement ARs. They just arent made for this rate of fire. I'm just sayin....
Uparmored81 9 months ago 3
@Uparmored81
If they change the law they can go fuck themselves
warriorofsteel01 8 months ago
@warriorofsteel01 And what needs to happen is that when ever a gun case comes to trial the jury needs to tell them exactly that with a NG verdict.
steve001968 6 months ago
Someone must really like their own product. $349 for some molded polymer? I would have bought one to play with, but not at $349.
Pardoner 10 months ago
@Pardoner I couldn't agree more. Maybe @ $100, or even $125. But NO WAY for $349.
justadbeer 9 months ago
@justadbeer Yet another person with no idea what it costs to design and manufacture something.......
steve001968 6 months ago
@steve001968 Yeah well, I did take a look at one recently at a gun show and I gotta tell ya, there ain't rocket science involved here. Everyone making a product has R&D costs, they just don't over inflate the price. I just bought my kid an S&W M&P-15 brand new for just over $600. You think more R&D went into the M&P or the bump fire stock gimmick?
justadbeer 6 months ago
@justadbeer More R&D went into the M&P, which, is one reason it's about twice as much. Makes sense huh?
steve001968 6 months ago
@steve001968 Of course it did. But look what your getting with an M&P as compared to a cheep piece of injection molded plastic with a spring in it. So no...It doesn't make sense at all. It's like comparing a big wheel to a Harley. R&D went into the collapsible OEM stock also, but it doesn't cost half as much as the gun.
justadbeer 6 months ago
The stock is a niche item. A lot more people will probably buy the M&P than the stock no matter what it costs so the cost per unit has to be proportionately higher to make it profitable. You are not going to design and produce that stock and sell if for $100 or anything like that and make a profit in spite of what some people seem to think. If you could someone already would have. At the quantity that would sell even at that price it would take you 10 years to make a profit on it.
steve001968 6 months ago
@steve001968 Yes, I agree with all of that. The manufacture has a choice. Sell less at higher price to recoup faster, or sell more at lower price & recoup over a period of years. IMO, this is one of those things where I really feel I'm not getting what I'm paying for. The AR platform isn't going anywhere soon and there's millions of them out there. I hope they made the right choice & do well with sales.
justadbeer 6 months ago
@justadbeer The other thing that drives the cost on anything like this is the fact that the manufacturer never knows how long before all their R&D, manufacturing and marketing effort goes up in smoke either because of a ruling by some unelected ATF beaurocrat that their product is suddenly illegal, or some new law passed by congress. This last especially is the biggest thing that stifles development of anything that is likely to be called an 'assault weapon'. How long before the next ban?
steve001968 6 months ago
ATF does not "approve" stocks ...
AnomymousPoster 10 months ago
@AnomymousPoster Did you mean "Anonymous" when you started your account?
SG55OVCam 10 months ago 63
@AnomymousPoster Actually they do if there's any question that it may cause your gun to be an NFA item.
etucker5007 10 months ago
@AnomymousPoster I have a feeling the ATF can "approve" or "dissaprove" whatever the hell they want, gun related. Especially when it's about rapid firing devices.
Fcfkyle88 9 months ago
@AnomymousPoster you are correct the ATF does not "approve" buttstocks.. but this is what they had to say about it.. "accordingly, we find that the "bump-stock" is a firearm part and is NOT regulated as a firearm under the Gun Control Act or National Firearms Act."
sssarsss 9 months ago
@AnomymousPoster They don't approve them, but they sure can come down hard on something if they just feel like it. Don't forget the Akins Accelerator, which worked on exactly the same principal, but involved a return spring.
AreThereNoMoreNames 7 months ago
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@AnomymousPoster "Anonymous" .....LOL burned fag.
custombmxbydrew 6 months ago
@AnomymousPoster
They approve sending Mexican cartels weapons tho ;)
vdub2002 4 months ago 14
@AnomymousPoster they disapprove them which is the same thing
Nicho2177 3 months ago
I think all these "gadgets" just go to prove how Stupid Gun Control Laws are. These "Gadgets" will also provide fodder for the anti-gun crowd and the "Fuds" in the Gun community to want to ban semi-auto "Assault" Look-alike weapons! We need to get rid of all of these stupid laws beginning with the 1934 NFA and 1968 Kennedy Gun Laws. There is no reason why a law abiding American should not be allowed to own a select fire weapon, without paying $15,000.00 for a pre-86 NFA weapon!! It's all BS!
french6290 10 months ago 81
@french6290
Agreed. When you compare the amount of crime committed with legally held weapons against those committed with illegal arms, the figures speak for themselves.
BunrakukenIII 8 months ago
@french6290 actualy all gun laws infringe on 2A... some are there because unfortunatly they need to be but some are there just because.... the dumb laws need to go.
Wolfstanus 6 months ago
@french6290 I totaly agree wiht you but what if your neighbor suddenly buys 20 aks then goes bonkers and murders every one?
ShutUpFoolStudios 3 months ago
@ShutUpFoolStudios It are the statements such as yours that fuel anti-gun legislature. The left-winged non-patriot's would love for everyone to buy into the fantasy that someone is going to amass this ungodly arsenal and take on their entire city. The reality is that their are nut jobs out there, and they are capable of monstrous actions with or without help from an automatic weapon. Besides, I could easily take out more targets with single rate of fire than selective rate.
randygdc 3 months ago
@ShutUpFoolStudios Has that ever happened? no it hasn't all the mass shooting were commited by people who bought weapons illegally(aka by passing the shitty gun laws) in gun free zones where CCW holders couldn't pull out there gun and shoot back, and the people were ill many were depressed and lonley, you make it seem as a noraml person touches a gun it changes them, it doesn't i have fired guns and theyare fun it doesn't turn you into a killer you do that to yourself
TheAlexagius 2 months ago
@TheAlexagius I just said if it does get into the wrong hands it could do serious damage to people and things
ShutUpFoolStudios 2 months ago
@french6290 You're a smart level headed dude.
CrocoDuck420 2 months ago
so technicaly this would be completely legal in canada for anyone with a pal......its still 1 shot with 1 pull of the trigger, and the trigger is not modified....neat-o.
ninja6kid 10 months ago 2
I wonder how long before these are outrageously taxed
redneck1413 10 months ago 2
I'm sure they didn't get the stock approved by saying" Yeah, it will make bump firing an ease...."
romeroisking 11 months ago
I would rather take the $350 cost of the stock and purchase a BATFE tax stamp for $200 and buy a NFA real auto weapon.
didactomy 11 months ago
@didactomy Yeah, but you would have to drop a few grand for a select fire weapon.
romeroisking 11 months ago
@romeroisking What select fire NFA registered 'machinegun' do you thing you are going to buy for "a few grand"?
steve001968 6 months ago
@didactomy
For an automatic version (NFA registered machine gun) of the rifle in the video it would cost you $16000.00. $350 is a steal.
johnfain 11 months ago
@didactomy
To each his own, but the cost of the tax stamp is not what keeps most folks from buying a real mg. It's the government butt raping and the outrageous cost of the gun itself.
etucker5007 11 months ago 2
@didactomy LMAO then you can pay another 15K - 20K for the weapon itself assuming you live in a state where they are legal and assuming your CLEO will sign off etc etc etc.
steve001968 6 months ago