Install and Load the 35mm adapter back for Holga 120

[buggiala]

Kai, is there a Holga 120 that let's you rewind the film manually like the 135 holga? Is the 120 evey going to get an upgrade to add film counter? Or any other gadgets in the works that you may know of?

[U23Drocs]

luckily i told my usual processor about this method and he said when i do this that i can just bring the camera to him and he will handle taking the film out in a darkroom

[Kristincrfujh]

wait, so if you put 35mm film into a 120 without an adapter, it will still work!?!?

[kaituba]

@Kristincrfujh yes, it's possible, and you will get the image in sprockets look that is very popular. Check out my video, DIY35mm film in a 120 camera.

[IanDevlinPhoto]

bloody hell that leader is a waste of film!

[ohbarbylicious]

Counting the clicks sounds pretty confusing btw :S ...

[ohbarbylicious]

Do I need to count the 24 clicks everytime I want to shoot a picture? or just the first time to load the film into the camera? :S ...

I dont know wich Holga should I choose :( i'm new at this, can you tell me wich one do you recommend in my case? a 120N or a 135?

I need helllpppp Q___Q please?

[kaituba]

@ohbarbylicious The film must be advanced each and every time you take a photo, unless you want to double expose your film. If you haven't purchased a camera yet, I highly recommend getting a 35mm lo-fi film camera to start with, rather than trying to shoot 35mm film in a Holga 120 camera. Check out the Holga 135 or 135BC, or the Lomography La Sardina.

[ashleeLOVESmuse]

Thank you so much, this video is great, I just purchased an adaptor but then I realised I wasn't really sure how I would install it when it came, and also, I never would have figured out to tape the film and the correct way to count the clicks. Thank you so much!

[JJtheJaxartosaurus]

umm, WHY would you want to put a 35mm mask in there?! I think the best part about using 35mm film in the 120 is the awesome look it gives! It is so unique and so great! Something you can truly only produce with film!

[kaituba]

@JJtheJaxartosaurus I agree with you. The one advantage this adapter offers, is that it frames the images down to a standard 35mm negative, so that any 1-hour lab can process and print the images.

[SmaomaoKoara]

thanks a lot mate!!!

[magalicv]

Thanks for this gerat video! Thinking of buying a Holga soon. I have a question though, will the exposure encompass the sprockets of the 35mm film too? Or will it not include the sprockets? Thanks.

[kaituba]

@magalicv The adapter I purchase did not include the sprockets, and is limited to the standard 35mm frame size. (24x36mm). I'm not sure if there is a sprocket included adapter, but if you want sprockets, you could always try the DIY method.

[magalicv]

@kaituba Thanks :)

[rainonmebi]

thanks so much for the video!! i just got my camera today!!

[10inyaface]

your info gives me a 24 turns per photo, right? but the infobook included with the 35mm back says 36 clicks or 1.5 turn, what about that?

[kaituba]

@10inyaface A turn and a half is rough. For the best count, check out the charts at squarefrogDOTukDOTco (replace the DOT with a . -sorry, youtube hates links)

[unitedrawkers]

hey! don't you need to turn the spool less than one round because one revolution is actually for one 120 photo; and the 35mm takes up less space?

[kaituba]

@unitedrawkers That isn't true, 1 turn doesn't equal 1 (120) photo. I notice that some of the newer backs are now coming with a counter sticker that attaches to the winder knob and helps with a more accurate film advance.

[unitedrawkers]

hey! don't you need to turn the spool less than one round because one revolution is actually for one 120 photo; and the 35mm takes up less space?

[louiseycheesey101]

do you get that spool free with the holga?

[kaituba]

@louiseycheesey101 The Holga 120 cameras come with the initial take-up spool included. After that, the empty film spool becomes the next take-up spool.

[jeanthor12]

can i use the adapter for a diana f+ camera??

[kaituba]

@jeanthor12 This adapter only works in the Holga 120 cameras.

[wsupflakes]

hi i was wondering whats the difference between 35mm film adapter and a 35mm film adapt kit?

[YXAznXY]

@wsupflakes the adapter and adapt kit are the same thing

[dyiu11]

how can i vignette with the mask?

[kaituba]

@dyiu11 You can't get a natural vignette with this mask. For a vignetted 35mm image, you will have to scan the image and do it digitally, or get the Holga 135BC camera, which has built in vignetting.

[theraelady]

how is the 35mmand 120 film different? Is the Holga 120 or 135 better for beginners?

[kaituba]

@theraelady 120 film is larger and the more common format for the popular lo-fi cameras, the Holga and Diana. 35mm is much more readily available, and can be processed at any 1-hour lab. I recommend the Holga 135BC for beginners. Check out this post on my blog: dianacameraDOTcom/get-started/ --Replace the DOT with a . -sorry, youtube doesn't like links.

[fraaancesca1]

a wine and i half?

[fraaancesca1]

@fraaancesca1 a half?

[kaituba]

@fraaancesca1 A turn and a half is rough. For the best count, check out the charts at squarefrogDOTukDOTco (replace the DOT with a . -sorry, youtube hates links)

[applepiewithtoast]

Will the sprocket holes be showing if I use the adapter?

[kaituba]

@applepiewithtoast Not with this adapter. It's possible someone makes one. I've seen a a version, one that shoots extra wide negatives. You might be able to modify the adapter.I'll have to take a look at that.

[applepiewithtoast]

@kaituba Allright thanks! I have always used digital cameras and I think I'm gonna buy a Holga just to try it out. But there is no problem to develop the 35 and 120mm photos? I want copies on real photo paper, can I get that or do I have to scan them and then print them out?

[kissthesky011]

how do you develop those pictures if you use the 35mm film? any pharmacy or do I still have to take it to a photo lab?

[kaituba]

@kissthesky011 Any 1-hour lab will be able to process your film.

[silentxcure]

youa re the only one that gives a detailed description from beginning to end. THANKS KAI!

[moJito332211]

Thanks for this perfect instruction! Saved my day (and two rounds of 35mm) ;-)

[Neequu78]

This was such a helpful video! I can't wait to put my adapter on and get shooting!

[kaituba]

@Neequu78 Thanks.

[bootbootboots]

can i use the battery with holga 35 film adapter or not>?

[kaituba]

@bootbootboots I'm not sure. I assume you mean you have a CFN or FN, where the mask holds the batteries in place. If you find out, please let me know.

[Felicuous]

really good tutorial, thanks!

[chilidog1001]

where did you get your adapter???

[thaobapao]

hey, i just have the regular backthing with the 12/16 windowthing haha

cant i just tape the window off with some tape? or do i really need to buy the one without the window? thanks

[kaituba]

@thaobapao Check out the DIY 35mm video.

[krista31612]

So if you have the adapter, you can take the film to a regular lab to get it processed, right?

[kaituba]

35mm film can be taken to any 1-hour lab. They might have trouble making prints or scans, because the random spacing can make it difficult for their automatic equipment to make prints.

[krista31612]

@kaituba Oh ok. It seems like the Diana 35mm back would make them more evenly spaced because of the frame counter. That's probably why it is more expensive too.

[Christine0924]

hmm, I hav an adapter for my holga 120 too. Of cos, I follow the steps to install my film into camera and oso take it out in a dark room when finish taking. However after developed, the film show ntg (means i din take anythings there)

Do u guys experience this b4? any solution for tat?

[kaituba]

Reasons for blank film- film wasn't exposed. Is the shutter working properly. With no film in the camera and the back off, point the camera at a light source and trip the shutter. You should see a light flash in the light compartment as the shutter opens and closes. Also check to make sure that the aperture switch is fully slid to the left or right when shooting. If it is partway in the middle, the aperture arm can block light.

[indieaner52]

Great man....is there a special type or brand of 35mm film you need?? i mean which is best??

cheers and thanx!

[kaituba]

For color, I like to use Kodak Portra 400 (VC for vivid color, NC for neutral color). I also like Fuji Superia and HD400. In BW, I like to shoot Tri-X.

[indieaner52]

cheers mate!!

[ndawg25]

ur awesome :)

[jessifyme]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! i was about to sell my holga cus i gave up after wasting 3 whole rolls trying to figure it out! -___- YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER!

[chrispele1]

24clicks to the next frame of the film on 35mm flim? is that right.....

[chrispele1]

24 clicks to the next frame right? 35mm

[Ahkany]

turning the film and hearing how many turn snaps is where i get confused :/

gahhhhhhhhhh im gonna die :(

[kaituba]

Mark Beltran on Flickr made a chart for how many turns of the winder knob for the roll of film. It changes slightly as you get through the roll, to compensate for the thickness of roll as it winds onto the take up spool.

approximately how many TURNS to advance the film:

holga (with 6x6 cm frame):

to 2= 1.5 turns (this means: to get to frame number 2, turn knob 1.5 times)

to 3= 1.4 turns

to 5= 1.3

to 6= 1.25

to 11= 1.2

to 12= 1

to 24= 0.9

[jasonwth]

owh okay thanks aloot kaituba :) really of a great help

[jasonwth]

and btw my holga is new. so should i remove the sponge right behind the spool and the film or do i just leave it there ?

[kaituba]

I left my foam in, so that the camera can be changed back to 120 film. Remove it only if it seems to cause a problem.

Check out flickrDOTcom/photos/ornellas/ for an awesome rewind mod for the Holga. (replace DOT with .) sorry, youtube doesn't allow urls in comments.

[kaituba]

Here's the "full" url for the Holga mod.

flickrDOTcom/photos/ornellas/3­491126190/

replace DOT with .

[jasonwth]

awesome explanation. thx dude helped me alot.

[luvmirh8mi]

Is there any difference in the picture quality between 35 mm & 120 mm?

[kaituba]

Yes. With the 35mm adapter, you are cropping the image down to the center portion of the 120 image area. This means you are losing the corner vignettes and soft focus edges of the image. The image is using the sharpest part of the Holga lens, so it loses some of the interesting aspects of the image. If you use a Holga Fisheye attachment with the 35mm film back, the extreme wide angle of the fisheye gives back much of the field of view, and the cropping works in your favor.

[luvmirh8mi]

Thanks so much...I'll try using both film...hopefully, i get nice results...

[luvmirh8mi]

I have one more question-If I use a 35mm film using the adapter, will it be developed normally as a 35mm film would or will I have a problem with the developing? I

[myster226]

very helpful. thank you

[mokosaurio]

do you prefer using the do it yourself method,or just using this adaptor kit?

and thanks for all your help(:

[kaituba]

For Holga, I prefer the DIY method. I don't care for the 35mm film kit for Holga, as it doesn't seem to offer too many benefits other than cropping the image down to a standard 35mm film neg. If you plan on shooting lots of film, consider the nicer 35mm back for Holga from Superheadz that offers a film counter and rewind capability.

[G1E1K38]

does it matter where you start on the roll, how far in you advance the film or if you keep consistently turned 24 clicks regardless of how far in it starts, will the pictures be okay?  Thanks a lot.

[kaituba]

I usually just advance the film about 1 to 1-1/2 frames, once I've closed up the camera. For the best and most efficient use of your film, there are charts telling you exactly how many clicks are needed for each frame. The amount changes slightly, because the distance the film travels with each click changes as the diameter of the film on the take-up spool changes as more film gets wrapped on it.

[kaituba]

One of the better charts is at Nicolai Morrisons blog:

photondetectorDOTcom, replace the DOT with a .

Youtube doesn't like links in comments!

Do a search on that blog for "35mm Film Advance Guide for Sprocket Hole Photography"

[kaituba]

35mm fisheye doesn't really apply to this video. Have you loaded film and taken the first photo? You should then advance to the next frame using the thumb winder on the right of the camera. It will automatically stop when you reach frame 2.

[Psychoticpanda]

awesome video, i recently bought the 35mm fish eye camera. but im not sure how to wind it to the next frame ?

[FeedMoi]

THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH DUDE!!

[bleks]

this is a really stupid question, but why does my film CAN'T rewind? it won't budge at all.

[kaituba]

I assume you mean wind, since you only need to open the camera in complete darkness and rewind the film into the cassette by hand.

Did you tape the film to the takeup spool? Chances are it got off track and bound up. When loading, make sure the cassette is lined up with the point where you taped it on the spool. If you've shot some frames, and it stops, then you are at the end of the roll.

[bleks]

i tried to rewind the film into the cassette by hand but it can't rewind back.

maybe it's just a film problem.

anyway, thanks alot for your help. :)

[kaituba]

The film gets rewound by rotating the protruding bottom spindle counter-clockwise. It can be a little difficult to turn by hand. There might be a little resistance when at the beginning when you first start to rewind the film. (Make sure you are doing this in complete darkness)

If you have the clothespin shutter release featured in one of my other videos, I find that inserting the end of the clothespin into the spindle can make it a little easier to turn.

[bleks]

Ahh, I get it now.

Thank you so so much!

[Uaiiko]

Thank you VERY MUCH!

[markp94]

what if my film doesnt have any of the roll hanging out? how do i get it to get out? fyi - its a kodak gold plus 35 mm film

[kaituba]

Are you sure this film hasn't been exposed yet? Exposed film usually doesn't have the leader out. If you know for fact that there is nothing on the roll, and you want to get the leader out, you can purchase a film leader retriever from someplace like Freestyle Photo supply.

[adzab]

thanks