impossible to beat a brutal army? Patch 1.04

[M11ty2]

lol i suck at this game. I am more of an fps person but the occasional game of Comman and Conquer is fun too.... to bad I lose like every time lol

[bodunchar]

Hello! Its not impossible to beat a brutal. I did beat nod as GDI on the first 1v1 map. Now I am stuck unable to win on the second 1v1 map, but I will persevere and win (just havent done yet).

By the time I get my infantry to brutal base he already has half a dozen tanks... hmmmm

what would sun tzu do?

[LiangHuBBB]

Just CY sell all in rush.

[13JunkYarDog13]

@bodunchar write a book

[spartin117gonfishin]

btw awsome rush with backup, id love to learn a thing or 2 from you!

[spartin117gonfishin]

for kains wrath i beat a brutal in a 1 v 1 fight (it was for 360 so theres no handycap) (at least i dont think so)

[LiangHuBBB]

It is not that hard tbh.

[Seldanas]

Scrin is so fucking overpowered, they got them Tripods

[Gixmock]

yea those tripods are good but i hate they're defense, like the turrets, i mean the one that kills infantry is awesome because it kills them easily but i dont like the anti vehicle turrets

[Seldanas]

yeh

[2g00d4u1994]

@Seldanas everyone can be overpowered. mammoth tanks own, venoms own, and tripods own

[atkrampardo1]

@Seldanas that mostly doesn't own me...

but if you try to own them with a bunch of juggernauts they use devastators 0.0

[Kasukurri1]

@Seldanas They are not over powered, a Mammoth Tank can take an Annihilator on easy.

[BubuSnow93]

@Seldanas mammoth and avatars totally owns tripod in 1 vs 1 ;)

[CerberusT93]

@BubuSnow93 mammoths do, avatars dont. even with a beam cannon augmented to them they still lose to tripods.

[BubuSnow93]

@CerberusT93 avatar totally owns tripod and, in latest patch, they even kill mammoth if both have no upgrades

[TANSKBD]

@Seldanas ...and GDI got them Mammoths, Juggernauts, and Nod got them artillery.

Your point is...?

[Speadyjooce2]

Nice vid! I love Nod! I think there the best army (my opinion).

[LiangHuBBB]

They are the best for hit and run.

[gearsofhores21]

they get double money so they can build a shit load of units when they are on brutal

[mechquestplayer]

its true i can never beat a brutal without a hard allie come on how can he produce so many units under a short period of time i can see he only got two war factorys i got four war factory all making predator tanks then i got broke

[ShakeITyEA]

awesome management and gameplay there, i still need to get used to all the shortcuts and to make some by myself.

[davidreefer]

so i've been playing GDI vs GDI on brutal balanced, working my way from 95% handicap down to 5% and i've hit a wall. There's no way to use the mcv rush technique bc by the time it gets there they have weapons factory, and several vehicles built which destroy it. Can't advance my army because for every unit i build, they have three, and they attack the base from every angle and it's impossible to defend.Theyhaveenough to defend and rush my base with superior numbers, plus theyre drawing 2x the $

[clarencel]

I've been trying to do this for the past hour on version 1.0, to no avail.

I noticed a huge difference in the way my AI behaved.

1. It always built the barracks next to the factory and surrounded them with APCs.

2. There was also always a crane, so it could build faster than I could destroy.

3. There was always a gun tower present.

[johntravolta69]

i love how u dont see the ending, 25 mammoth tanks learking in the dark on the left, bad joke video entertained me before bed peace

[vOddy75]

I've beaten brutals in 1.0, 1.4, 1.8, 1.9, whatever. Just by playing normally, massing tanks and infantry and stff

[Trombonestar]

why not simply use the shadows at the begginging to just destroy the MCV?

[Nine1nchNails]

why not simply read the comments to this video?

"Becuase con yards require 7 or 8 bombs from shadow teams to blow up, I only had 6 shadows so bombing the conyard would've been a waste (they'd have repaired it before my shadow's bomb ability recharged) "

I now know it actually takes 10.

[qqqCYBERLEADERppp]

its easy with patch 1.04 u can build defences

[tkboyz]

LMAO>> gonan try this out now!

[LordBurnFire]

HE! Impossiblie for you maybe not for me weekling HA HA!

[mechquestplayer]

its impossoble to defeat a brutal i like to see you make a vid dickhead

[AVINAR80]

i won 254 brutals, !!!

what ever

[AVINAR80]

i won 254 brutals, !!!

what ever

[RyanGDI192]

Revised *it's been awhile now and I just bumped into this again*...I've beaten a few brutals since, but still, they're hard, and great job!

[stirfryman1]

fighting a brutal ai 1 on 1 is like a hard single player mission but with no tiberium, patience

[Trak125]

not impossible. i did it on kane's wrath.

map topgun

starting cash 40k

handicaps none

brutal nod balanced.

its hard when the ai has access to blue tiberium as they get dbl income as a cheat

[Nine1nchNails]

lol.

[Trak125]

yeah im a noob :)

[Trak125]

srry about dbl post but i said i beat one brutal 1v1. yeah ok i did it again with -10% handicap and still won. i hope to continue my campaign and see how far i can go. certainly not -95% handicap lol!

[Nine1nchNails]

checkz out this account for some cool cnc3 vids and brutals getting beaten in the latest 1.09 patch :)

[Calamity252]

ive killed 3 brutals

[RyanGDI192]

Excellent way at getting past a brutal!!! I've only ever beaten a hard Nod turtle with GDI before...:P

[PCman54]

OMG i cant even do medium difficulty, so hard!

[mechquestplayer]

heres a technic build many surveyors and expand your base on other tiberium fields be sure to follow it up with units as soon as his tiberium field in his base is depleted he will look for other tiberium fields which is now your base which is well defended i did that and i notice he sold all his barracks and war factory lol

[breakthro444]

@PCman54 lol... i havent tried brutal but hard is easy... right when you start : crane + sourveyor, power core + refinery, plan sourveyor at another tiberium field, 2 refineries, war fact. refinery, war factory. and just do predator tanks and apc's once you get the factory down.

[MasterSgt80]

I've never thought of doing that, only building up my tech tree and taking at least an hour to finish my game.

[Ravickcaro]

Well some people see that as the 'way to beat a brutal army the honorable way'. A brutal army is basically the same as a hard army, they only gets double the tiberium from every load of tiberium. So if you hit them early they're helpless.

[MasterSgt80]

I usually face Brutal turtles as a way to get more challenge out of my game because of their vast defenses especially when they are Nod. I've never knew that the computer would have a better economy just never had time to confirm it. It seems more fun to do it the regular honorable way though so they have a chance and you get more destruction.

[warset]

back then i've defeated the brutal just using the standard tanks

[jonisindahouse]

right u pro al get my m8 on u lol

[Duryodhana]

Damn ur good man!!!

I love those guys,SHADOW TEAM :)

I have never managed to defeat a brutal army, but u did that in 1.57!!!! Hats off!

INCREDABLE :)

[Fatality101]

Thanks :P But I didn't use this tactic to win against a brutal in 1:57; check the other video in my profile.

[paulwatf4321]

Why didnt you blow up the mcv first then the factory, then power, then barracks?

[Fatality101]

Becuase con yards require 7 or 8 bombs from shadow teams to blow up, I only had 6 shadows so bombing the conyard would've been a waste (they'd have repaired it before my shadow's bomb ability recharged)

[W1nn3tou]

he so pro =)

[Fatality101]

thanks for your comments :)

MouthofSaurons I think I may have beaten your record ;)

Video coming soon..

[Rambo556]

That was extremely helpful. Now it's time to try it on a trash-talking buddy of mine...

[westwood500]

your pretty damn good

[W1nn3tou]

lolol pro skillz :D + e-rep pld gg 111

[MouthofSaurons]

I could have done this faster... My record in defeating a Brutal Balanced is exactly = 2.36 minutes!

That was about 3 times faster than THIS!

Good tactic but i can do it WAY faster!

[Fatality101]

1:57 seconds!

I just uploaded the video :)