this grenade gets rid of campers little bitches who hide in corners thinking they can not die it instills fear into the enemy makes um run like bitches!!!
the tornado grenades are extremely useful but the spoon is kind of pointless in my opinion. the grenade is excelent in it base form with just a pin and impact activation or timed detonation mode with all other moving parts contained within the grenade but with the spoon, the grenade is activated by it falling off. so if you play field in a junkyard setting like i do, it is guaranteed that you will loose the spoon when you throw the grenade
@ScheduledChaosTheory The spoon is very useful in room clearing. One tip - punch a hole in the spoon and put it on a lanyard to your vest or the grenade itself.
@jango4eva no then aren't. They are highly affective in cqb and woodland. Especially when you have some enemies in a room. So I think they are useful and not a waste of money
ive recently bought 2 of these grenades and have had problems with the timer delay. one on the 1.5 second timer takes about 10 seconds and the other grenade takes about an hour (really an hour) dose anybody no whats wrong with them.
@eighty8assassins as with any 'gas', filling a device causes the gas to cool, its suggested that you leave any gas containing device for at least 5 mins. prior to discharge to allow the gas to warm up, expand, seals to set . Plus, maintenance is important. There should be instructions on how to disassemble your 'grenade' and properly maintain it. Its possible an o-ring is jamming in the timing 'shaft'. Always ensure your grenade is fully discharged prior to any dis-assembly!!!!!!!
Also, the nade will spit its bbs out, though it may not spin. That means you still have 150-200 bbs flying out in two directions (possibly).
Further, if you take some simple precautions (Like attaching construction warning tape or some type of similar warning tape, you can not only see the path of the grenade but also the final resting spot.
The fact that this nade is nearly harmless and quite effective makes it much more valuable IMHO than the average (and potentially dangerous) pyro.
@Airsoftreports Well argued points however, unless used in very arrid conditions and or stored incorrectly, Professionaly made pyro is not dangerous at all. The Airsoft Tornado with multiple parts and a need for constant reassembly and maintainance just doesn't appear to be a practical tool for airsoft. Once thrown i don't want to be crawling around looking for parts and trying to reassemble it to use it again under fire. Its far too expensive and fussy in design to make it fun to use.
However, pyrotechnics is a term that includes ALL gunpowder type airsoft grenades and similar both professionally made and homemade.
As I said, unless ALL pyro devices are strictly regulated in their use and manufacture then the risk of harm is much greater than a strictly regulated and manufactured gas grenade.
As it stands, the Tornado is strictly manufactured to be "safe".
The professional pyro isn't cheap either and that is one of the complaints the other posters are having so I presume that the "pyro" they are talking about is home made.
The reason I wholeheartedly support the categorical restriction on pyro in amateur events (such as casual games in the backyard or games that have casual players) is because the risk is simply much higher with explosives than with gas (at least gas used at this pressure).
When I support a product I look at the worst case scenario first. There is no argument that pyro can be more effective at making a bang and MAYBE dispersing bbs. However, the worst case scenario also tends to be much more severe with explosives over most gas grenades.
Given that airsoft players can be children, I will ALWAYS, ALWAYS support product that has a lower risk factor for harm.
Agree wholeheartedly with you on safety coming 1st. Airsoft in the UK is different from US airsoft, we don't have unofficial backyard games and no one brings homemade pyro to skirmish sites, all our pyro is pro manufactured. We have similar devices to the tornado in the UK and the common problem we find is in the way players use it. The common instinct with a grenade is to throw it through the air, over walls etc and we have had numerous injuries as a result and 1 player going to hospital.
my interest in the use of this product is merely as a result of experience with such devices at my own local site. The intention is merely to discuss pro's and con's and not to disrespect or ignore your own opinions or experience
Kieth, Are not the grenades you guys use much louder than what is shown here? I mean I've watched the commentaries on the airsoft battles, (I'm rather envious of you guys) there in scotland.
Hence, because safety is what matters at the end of the day, pyro poses a risk of danger that MAY be too high.
Further, while the pyros make better "bangs" they don't necessarily disperse the bbs better. A "popcorn grenade" will fling out a few kernels, but not usually all of them. The Tornado expells %90 of its 200 bb payload with %98 reliability.
While its not guarantee that the target will be hit by a bb, most major games have grenade "bang out rules" as some have mentioned.
If a pyro goes off in an exposed hand or somehow gets stuck in a harness or in a shirt or pocket etc... you could have actual burns, possible nerve damage and even loss of appendages.
Unless the pyros are standardized (i.e. an agency or body defines VERY specific rule for pyros) then each pyro has the possibility of being different depending on who makes it.
(See the homemade mortars I filmed in some of my battle vids).
One guys might use a tiny lady finger and another joker might use an M80.
OK... everyone is entitled to their opinion however, HERE is my argument why the Tornado is a valuable airsoft tool.
Airsoft is a SPORT. Ideally, for the well being of the players the sports should be as safe as is possible. Pyro aka firecrackers/black powder etc... is definitely more effective at making a loud sound and POSSIBLY at dispersing bbs, however they can be quite dangerous in a WCS (Worst case scenario).
WCS the nade goes off in a bare hand. With a gas nade, the damage is negligible
Yes you can but most airsoft fields do not allow pyrotecnics (items that are lit by a match or lighter such as fireworks) and plus this is alot more safe, and this is more reliable.
just picked one of these up the other day... got it 4 free too! was playing at my field and some gun threw one. i picked it up and asked if it was anyones but no one answered so i kept it!
It's a nice idea but for 100 bucks it's not quite worth it. I think evike has them for 70 but that's still pretty bad. If it were say, as much as your average 40mm airsoft grenade ($30 - $40) I'd buy a bunch of these.
My 10 friends and I allowed our friend to throw his 2 Tornado grenades at us while we were in a group. It was the first detonation of the grenade, and the BB's basically flew in the air an inch and dropped. These things suck.
These grenades are pretty good but the weather and temperature due influence the grenade a bit. Also to take off the pin twist up to release the hook and then twist done to pull the pin from the grenade. one other thing as a previous person stated they require alot of oil.
Also you have to oil these bad boys like crazy. Pretty much after every time you fire it off. Pyro is 100% better. Especially if you use ones that have a striker cap because then you just pull, strike, and throw.
If you want a bang, take the powder from a cap gun and add some strike anywhere matches in a balloon with the caps, make it as compact as possible and whip it at a walll or floor. spark. heat, but not enough flame 2 cause a fire. that is a big boom for a perfect distracti0on in a small dark room. then pop out and spray away
i have used and seen it in play but u cant feel it if u use it and ur fully geared up wot is airsoft innovations going to do on that problem and the other problem is where its solid and if u throw it in to a building it will or can hurt some one wots are thay going to do on that as well plz on be half of airsofters fined thsi out for us and video on wot thay sed
@jmeddnumba1 nobody really wants to dive on these cuz it would really hurt. the omst commmon rule is that if you are 5-8 feet away from a pyro grenade without any form of cover then you are out, and if you get hit by a bb from one of these then you are out. pretty simple rules in my opinion
just for the record, you would jump on it so that no1 else on your team gets hit. That's a military thing though. In a real war militants would jump on live grenades to cover up the blast from anyone else, yet sacrificing their life. It's just a heroic gesture that a lot of people did in the WWs to get out of the war (allowing a euphemism).
In an airsoft skirmish with multiple AEGs firing, people shouting etc this seems a very expensive and ineffectual device. What are U.S laws/attitudes regarding the type of Pyro we use in the UK? Many US players seem to want UK style pyro to play with
Agreed, these Tornado Distraction Devices do seem like a good idea but at a loud skirmish site, I can't see them being greatly effective.
As for the laws regarding pyro, I know they're not allowed BFG's in most states but I believe they're allowed to use the pyro like we use in the UK (TLSFX, HFM) but its hard to get hold of them.
yeah don't like these Tornado things. They just make a slight hiss and spray out some beebs. The pyro's are far better, real bangs, flashes and smoke. In a full on skirmish with adrenalin pumping i'd say these things would be barely noticed
@ KeithHPOW Yea, I agree with you! These only work good if you hold it a little bit after you pull the pin and throw it right when the bbs are about to come out so as the grenade is spining it will throw bbs 360 not in just 2 different directions.
We have them at my field, (Pennsylvania, USA) and they definitely do add alot to the experience. These things would not be noticed I can almost guarantee it.
i think the best grenades r the "pea grenades" they explode and shoot peas everywhere. what i like about them is they are cheap. only like 5 bux so u dont have to look for them and can just buy new ones
at 5:48 thumbs up for him calling his hit!
KenshenSim 3 days ago
Thats kinda dumb how it goes,off itself. I thought it has to hit the floor to make it explode. But cool things that its timed i guess like 3sec thing
Stefarn104 1 month ago
How about instead of airsoft guns we use real gun and grenades!
Dark4156k 7 months ago
@Dark4156k alot of people will die :c
Ltb0b 6 months ago
@Dark4156k u must be da dumb ass or something
zubidagulrehman 3 months ago
@Dark4156k yah well u cant have wars with friends inless u want to DIE
GOPACKGO35 2 months ago
Does it say "Excuse me!", too?
palegrey 9 months ago
this grenade gets rid of campers little bitches who hide in corners thinking they can not die it instills fear into the enemy makes um run like bitches!!!
RandallAtTheTube 9 months ago
Thats interesting
TheBlabla1996 1 year ago
failgrenade
pikkefar 1 year ago
the tornado grenades are extremely useful but the spoon is kind of pointless in my opinion. the grenade is excelent in it base form with just a pin and impact activation or timed detonation mode with all other moving parts contained within the grenade but with the spoon, the grenade is activated by it falling off. so if you play field in a junkyard setting like i do, it is guaranteed that you will loose the spoon when you throw the grenade
ScheduledChaosTheory 1 year ago
@ScheduledChaosTheory The spoon is very useful in room clearing. One tip - punch a hole in the spoon and put it on a lanyard to your vest or the grenade itself.
John234pwns 3 months ago
try holding the spoon with the back of youre fingers
mrjowjoe 1 year ago
this product is a waste of time and money, only good thing about it is its reuseable
SavannahScouts 1 year ago
grenades are a waste of money
jango4eva 1 year ago
@jango4eva no then aren't. They are highly affective in cqb and woodland. Especially when you have some enemies in a room. So I think they are useful and not a waste of money
jonny12384 1 year ago
is this all just the spoon kit???
UcLaFaN456 1 year ago
could you put 2 strips of plastic instead of 1 to make a louder bang
miniman0094 1 year ago
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steb557 1 year ago 2
gay
alexlandyachtz 1 year ago
The second shot was the best it went fling everywhere. Im going to get this.
shaqrocks7991 1 year ago
thank you i love it i use it as a backup weapon when i am reloading my g36k
theawsomericky 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
its 100$ 4 one little shit like that
THEPAINCLAN1 2 years ago
@THEPAINCLAN1
You could have gotten one from evike for $60 around xmas
ApokalypseCow 2 years ago
why thers 2 holes in my grenade is it for the delay ?
huyhuyhuytae 2 years ago
yea 1 is 1.5 secs the other is 3
grif264264 1 year ago
nice stuff
Buditokid 2 years ago
ive recently bought 2 of these grenades and have had problems with the timer delay. one on the 1.5 second timer takes about 10 seconds and the other grenade takes about an hour (really an hour) dose anybody no whats wrong with them.
eighty8assassins 2 years ago
@eighty8assassins as with any 'gas', filling a device causes the gas to cool, its suggested that you leave any gas containing device for at least 5 mins. prior to discharge to allow the gas to warm up, expand, seals to set . Plus, maintenance is important. There should be instructions on how to disassemble your 'grenade' and properly maintain it. Its possible an o-ring is jamming in the timing 'shaft'. Always ensure your grenade is fully discharged prior to any dis-assembly!!!!!!!
MrRocque 2 years ago
@eighty8assassins
Use the grenade oil that came with your grenade.
ApokalypseCow 2 years ago
@eighty8assassins - Try lubing it up more
17sagardner 5 months ago
Also, the nade will spit its bbs out, though it may not spin. That means you still have 150-200 bbs flying out in two directions (possibly).
Further, if you take some simple precautions (Like attaching construction warning tape or some type of similar warning tape, you can not only see the path of the grenade but also the final resting spot.
The fact that this nade is nearly harmless and quite effective makes it much more valuable IMHO than the average (and potentially dangerous) pyro.
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
@Airsoftreports Well argued points however, unless used in very arrid conditions and or stored incorrectly, Professionaly made pyro is not dangerous at all. The Airsoft Tornado with multiple parts and a need for constant reassembly and maintainance just doesn't appear to be a practical tool for airsoft. Once thrown i don't want to be crawling around looking for parts and trying to reassemble it to use it again under fire. Its far too expensive and fussy in design to make it fun to use.
KeithHPOW 2 years ago
Your opinion is yours to have.
However, pyrotechnics is a term that includes ALL gunpowder type airsoft grenades and similar both professionally made and homemade.
As I said, unless ALL pyro devices are strictly regulated in their use and manufacture then the risk of harm is much greater than a strictly regulated and manufactured gas grenade.
As it stands, the Tornado is strictly manufactured to be "safe".
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
Vs
The professional pyro isn't cheap either and that is one of the complaints the other posters are having so I presume that the "pyro" they are talking about is home made.
The reason I wholeheartedly support the categorical restriction on pyro in amateur events (such as casual games in the backyard or games that have casual players) is because the risk is simply much higher with explosives than with gas (at least gas used at this pressure).
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
When I support a product I look at the worst case scenario first. There is no argument that pyro can be more effective at making a bang and MAYBE dispersing bbs. However, the worst case scenario also tends to be much more severe with explosives over most gas grenades.
Given that airsoft players can be children, I will ALWAYS, ALWAYS support product that has a lower risk factor for harm.
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
Agree wholeheartedly with you on safety coming 1st. Airsoft in the UK is different from US airsoft, we don't have unofficial backyard games and no one brings homemade pyro to skirmish sites, all our pyro is pro manufactured. We have similar devices to the tornado in the UK and the common problem we find is in the way players use it. The common instinct with a grenade is to throw it through the air, over walls etc and we have had numerous injuries as a result and 1 player going to hospital.
KeithHPOW 2 years ago
my interest in the use of this product is merely as a result of experience with such devices at my own local site. The intention is merely to discuss pro's and con's and not to disrespect or ignore your own opinions or experience
KeithHPOW 2 years ago
Good stuff Kieth
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
Kieth, Are not the grenades you guys use much louder than what is shown here? I mean I've watched the commentaries on the airsoft battles, (I'm rather envious of you guys) there in scotland.
HunterR909 2 years ago
Hence, because safety is what matters at the end of the day, pyro poses a risk of danger that MAY be too high.
Further, while the pyros make better "bangs" they don't necessarily disperse the bbs better. A "popcorn grenade" will fling out a few kernels, but not usually all of them. The Tornado expells %90 of its 200 bb payload with %98 reliability.
While its not guarantee that the target will be hit by a bb, most major games have grenade "bang out rules" as some have mentioned.
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
@Airsoftreports .. that gas usage for the grenade? because I have a gas but is delayed from time to time
Marco1992crok 1 year ago
If a pyro goes off in an exposed hand or somehow gets stuck in a harness or in a shirt or pocket etc... you could have actual burns, possible nerve damage and even loss of appendages.
Unless the pyros are standardized (i.e. an agency or body defines VERY specific rule for pyros) then each pyro has the possibility of being different depending on who makes it.
(See the homemade mortars I filmed in some of my battle vids).
One guys might use a tiny lady finger and another joker might use an M80.
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
OK... everyone is entitled to their opinion however, HERE is my argument why the Tornado is a valuable airsoft tool.
Airsoft is a SPORT. Ideally, for the well being of the players the sports should be as safe as is possible. Pyro aka firecrackers/black powder etc... is definitely more effective at making a loud sound and POSSIBLY at dispersing bbs, however they can be quite dangerous in a WCS (Worst case scenario).
WCS the nade goes off in a bare hand. With a gas nade, the damage is negligible
Airsoftreports 2 years ago
i like taht otehr placstic gernade that activated wiht orange stuff, it sounded so bad ass.
i couldn't find it online though
MP5rules 2 years ago
where were you guys? theres been no reviews in soo long so what happened?? i want one
hazedude1233 2 years ago
you want a better effect make your own with a fire cracker. you can actually throw them.
samuraihavok607 2 years ago
Yes you can but most airsoft fields do not allow pyrotecnics (items that are lit by a match or lighter such as fireworks) and plus this is alot more safe, and this is more reliable.
LastMinuteStudious 2 years ago
very true the only reason i am scared to use these is if i lose the pieces you know.
samuraihavok607 2 years ago
just picked one of these up the other day... got it 4 free too! was playing at my field and some gun threw one. i picked it up and asked if it was anyones but no one answered so i kept it!
yay! lucke me! lol
BigBeefBoy52 2 years ago 2
they are not effectiv on a wooded field, but in a cqb environment, these would be roomclearers.
asvn60 2 years ago 2
It's a nice idea but for 100 bucks it's not quite worth it. I think evike has them for 70 but that's still pretty bad. If it were say, as much as your average 40mm airsoft grenade ($30 - $40) I'd buy a bunch of these.
42ndAirsoftLegion 2 years ago
Im sorry thats a little to weak for me.
rffboy 2 years ago
Oh wow, 5-8min to reload it seriously? That would get really annoying
NickDenning3 2 years ago
My 10 friends and I allowed our friend to throw his 2 Tornado grenades at us while we were in a group. It was the first detonation of the grenade, and the BB's basically flew in the air an inch and dropped. These things suck.
LaderaAirsoft 2 years ago
reliable? ive been to a war when 2 were thrown on our side, none went off. maybe they messed up when priming it, but still
Dingusmaster792 2 years ago
Some people mess up while resetting the timer lol.
Christianmarquez 2 years ago
This is the most rediculous thing ever....
PSPmaster321 2 years ago
These grenades are pretty good but the weather and temperature due influence the grenade a bit. Also to take off the pin twist up to release the hook and then twist done to pull the pin from the grenade. one other thing as a previous person stated they require alot of oil.
idc7636 2 years ago
finally a new video
angrymuffin123 2 years ago
Also you have to oil these bad boys like crazy. Pretty much after every time you fire it off. Pyro is 100% better. Especially if you use ones that have a striker cap because then you just pull, strike, and throw.
chieftain2012 2 years ago
If you want a bang, take the powder from a cap gun and add some strike anywhere matches in a balloon with the caps, make it as compact as possible and whip it at a walll or floor. spark. heat, but not enough flame 2 cause a fire. that is a big boom for a perfect distracti0on in a small dark room. then pop out and spray away
XXXT3CHN0L0V3RXXX 2 years ago
@XXXT3CHN0L0V3RXXX
I'd like to see a video of that ;3
AkitoTheFerret 2 years ago
i'd agree with kiethpow pryo nades are more fun such as the bang when using pyro grenades
TIMMY8959 2 years ago
i would tape the spoon to the grenade so i wouldn't lose it if i randomly threw it into a room with a lot of junk or something
ARX7ARBALESTZ7 2 years ago
Where are you buying it for 99.00?
I've seen it for 60!
epohnopulse 2 years ago
for the "bang" you should try red gas
AVietGamer 2 years ago
These work great, but only indoors. It needs a flat surface in order to spin, and walls to ricochet.
ch0k1ngh4z4rd 2 years ago
good vid.....but i like pryo better...having seen it from kiethpows vids and scout
cqbcitydude 2 years ago
i have used and seen it in play but u cant feel it if u use it and ur fully geared up wot is airsoft innovations going to do on that problem and the other problem is where its solid and if u throw it in to a building it will or can hurt some one wots are thay going to do on that as well plz on be half of airsofters fined thsi out for us and video on wot thay sed
tauman5 2 years ago
@tauman5..... Wot? wtf is that?
Ocylnndeila 2 years ago
wot i sed wasnt for u so y reply to it dumb ass
tauman5 2 years ago
5 *
PolishedTurd4Life 2 years ago
if someone was to dive on the grenade??? why would you do that? im a novice airsofter, why wouldn't you just jump behind cover or kick it away?
jmeddnumba1 2 years ago
@jmeddnumba1 nobody really wants to dive on these cuz it would really hurt. the omst commmon rule is that if you are 5-8 feet away from a pyro grenade without any form of cover then you are out, and if you get hit by a bb from one of these then you are out. pretty simple rules in my opinion
colin70000 2 years ago
oh ok thanks :)
jmeddnumba1 2 years ago
just for the record, you would jump on it so that no1 else on your team gets hit. That's a military thing though. In a real war militants would jump on live grenades to cover up the blast from anyone else, yet sacrificing their life. It's just a heroic gesture that a lot of people did in the WWs to get out of the war (allowing a euphemism).
LBvilleAIRSOFT 2 years ago
nice but it would be hard to see in the dirst and trees and stuff so it would be better to get the blue one or yellow.
airsoftrocks30 2 years ago
To airsoftrocks30,
"dirst" haha
NickDenning3 2 years ago
i meant dirt sorry aha
airsoftrocks30 2 years ago
I know it was just funny
NickDenning3 2 years ago
Well made video!
In an airsoft skirmish with multiple AEGs firing, people shouting etc this seems a very expensive and ineffectual device. What are U.S laws/attitudes regarding the type of Pyro we use in the UK? Many US players seem to want UK style pyro to play with
KeithHPOW 2 years ago
@ KeithHPOW
Agreed, these Tornado Distraction Devices do seem like a good idea but at a loud skirmish site, I can't see them being greatly effective.
As for the laws regarding pyro, I know they're not allowed BFG's in most states but I believe they're allowed to use the pyro like we use in the UK (TLSFX, HFM) but its hard to get hold of them.
tomtomtom843 2 years ago
if u live in california dont u have to have a permit
cqbcitydude 2 years ago
no only san francisco
G36airsofter 2 years ago
yeah don't like these Tornado things. They just make a slight hiss and spray out some beebs. The pyro's are far better, real bangs, flashes and smoke. In a full on skirmish with adrenalin pumping i'd say these things would be barely noticed
KeithHPOW 2 years ago
@ KeithHPOW Yea, I agree with you! These only work good if you hold it a little bit after you pull the pin and throw it right when the bbs are about to come out so as the grenade is spining it will throw bbs 360 not in just 2 different directions.
chieftain2012 2 years ago
We have them at my field, (Pennsylvania, USA) and they definitely do add alot to the experience. These things would not be noticed I can almost guarantee it.
desertfox2020 2 years ago
it could shot a little faster garder and farther and a large amount
jacobdorp 2 years ago
Good to finally see another vid
Copen70 2 years ago
There late...
bankotsu63 2 years ago
where can u get this
traucerboi24 2 years ago
Airsoftinnovations's website
ajsnuker 2 years ago
i think the best grenades r the "pea grenades" they explode and shoot peas everywhere. what i like about them is they are cheap. only like 5 bux so u dont have to look for them and can just buy new ones
willman1661 2 years ago
ya but they are not reliable the do not work 1/4 of the time
jacobdorp 2 years ago
sweet :)
legowarmaniac1 2 years ago
great report. i have been saving up to buy this grenade. this gave me a very good idea of how effective it is.
SayeretAirsoft94 2 years ago
first......hah...nah im just kidding,but nice vid
PS3GRIMREAPER91 2 years ago