John Birch Society Aug 21, 2009 Ron Paul Speech Part 1

[USAPappy]

President Paul!

[xdream2]

Thank you Ron Paul and the JBS. May we return to this great Republic before the oligarchy and their slaves (the people) ruin everything my father and his father and his before him fought and died for; The constitution.

[Jimmyjackj]

Jew Tube search > Ron Paul - Rosicrucian .... check it out yourself !

[d3ltadrive]

I have a dream that one day I will become a leader who will have maximum power over a government which will have minimum power over the people.

[gr8yearahead]

Ron Paul claims to support veterans, but would eliminate the Americans with Disabilities Act. If anyone thinks there is a company on the planet that would install accessibility features without regulation is totally fooling themselves. Just imagine living YOUR life without access to the places you frequent or are required to visit. We need to act as a society, not an every-man for himself no-man's land. Ron Paul, 1812!

[xdream2]

@gr8yearahead Actually, Ron Paul is against the wars that disable men and women. It's a no brainer. however, in a free society it's just smart business practice to install ramps and elevators. Again, it's a now brainer. Only people that think like you need to be told what to do. Now go back to your TV and await further instructions.

[xTheOxx]

What's the current stand of the JBS on the communist conspiracy?

Does Ron Paul think it is possible to thwart this conspiracy and be non-interventionist at the same time?

[xdream2]

@xTheOxx Communism is just the state telling everyone they control you and you can't own land, because it's the oligarchy that owns it. Socialism and Fascism hide the fact that an Oligarchy controls you. Democracy pretends you have freedom, but it's just mob rule. The rule of law in a republic says that all are free to live without fear of retribution, or someone taking your property for "the good of the people". It's just more elitist oligarchy where you have no rights.

[fossilman2]

Fortress America is a non-starter, cannot work and never will. We need imported engineering materials especially liquid fossil fuels, to merely survive.  This is what leads to our meddling around the globe.

[RovingCounter]

“I have received your letter dated September 25, 1963. Any rumors you have heard indicating the FBI has evidence that former President Dwight D. Eisenhower is a communist are completely false and too absurd to merit consideration." [HQ 62-81742, #263; 10/2/63 J. Edgar Hoover reply to inquiry about Eisenhower]

[mondiablue]

Why does no one mention John Birch Society is Koch funded?

[xdream2]

@mondiablue association fallacy. So what. It's a moot point.

[xdream2]

@mondiablue Obama is funded by goldman sachs, merril lynch, and other various banksters. yet you don't mention that.

[chewbaccajoe]

@xdream2 And Ron Paul is funded by Mitt Romney... but don't mention that.

[xdream2]

@chewbaccajoe What? that's stupid. We the People fund Ron Paul with our money, not banksters like in Obama, and Romney's campaign.

[THEINVENTABLETHREAT]

Ron Paul needs to leave the JBS alone. I like Ron Paul but the JBS are a bunch of bible thumping authoritarians .

[mondiablue]

@THEINVENTABLETHREAT Ron Paul IS a Bible-thumping authoritarian!

[buckwheatinuqueers]

Peace through superior fire power!!! Neo liberal paulers an neo cons are both communists and the last thing you will ever know is how stupid you are when you are put to death by the people you love. It is not a conspiracy it is a fact that there R people who rule by gov't and religion; But none of you would know them by sight. You have all the right names but no clue what you are really saying. Fascism and Socialism are one as is neo libs anf neo cons. The media you worship will b ur end.

[CarlosMonteiro1985]

THANK YOU BIRCHERS!!!!! It's always nice to see Ron Paul speaking for the JBS, it makes it clear he is just another NUT conspiracy theorist.

NWO 2012!!!! LOOOOOOOL

[xdream2]

@CarlosMonteiro1985 ad hominem is the recourse of the weak minded and uneducated. You're just embarrassing yourself, Juan.

[CarlosMonteiro1985]

@xdream2 Juan? Is that some racial slur I'm not aware of? Because Juan is my middle brother, and he's actually João. Wasn't that an ad hominem on my spanish-sounding name, "esse"?

And besides, Birchers are crazy, they border on totalitarianism, both the JBS and it's white-supremacist/neo-fascist/­ultra-rightwing brethren.

It's not ad hominem, it's simply contemplating facts. Of course, I know this concept is alien to the inhabitants of rightwing bubble, especially the RonBots.

[MostMagnificentOne]

The Talmud is like a donut, it's a satanic ring that an organized group feeds off of. It doesn't matter if you let cockroaches or crows eat it, it's still the Talmud. Whoever follows it is willing to steal from others and to kill for personal gain. The Talmud weighs others down, it's used to suppress others. Many courts and governments are controlled by the Talmud, including the USA. The Talmud was written for Jews, but many are controlled by it through deception. Americans have been deceived.

[MostMagnificentOne]

Why won't the Freemasons talk about Friedman Economics and how it was used by Zionist Jews in the US government to destroy the USA economy for Israel's benefit?

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@MostMagnificentOne

The Freemasons don't talk about anything in public; unless its to defend themselves

The Chicago school (Milton Freedman) is what the bankers, globalists (large business, multi-national corporations) embrace because it benefits them the most These are the people who "own" our president and politicians

(Not all members of the John Birch Society are Freemasons. Being a Freemason was once very common; for most it was a social club. Not any more)

[MostMagnificentOne]

@BoudiccaBlanc "The Freemasons don't talk about anything in public; unless its to defend themselves" Freemasons were slaughtered in Europe for running international monopolies. They are led by Zionist Jews who follow the Talmud. The Talmud tells follower to make slaves of others. Today we see Freemasons rising again, still led by Zioinst Talmudic Jew bankers, and they run larger international monopolies. They are out of hiding. Friedman Economics are Talmudic, designed to enslave.

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@democratsaresmart

If Ron Paul gets elected.....My guess is that the troops will not be released from service. They will be used to guard the border.

We can not have a stable society when the immigration policy is not set up to benefit all 3 groups (the host country, the taxpayers and the immigrant --with the immigrant having the smallest %)

Jobs? Get out of the WTO, NAFTA, etc. and place tariffs on goods that compete with "essential" industries being protected

[democratsaresmart]

@BoudiccaBlanc jobs? population of china 1.4b good agriculter? MEXICAN PICK UP BERRIES AND MOP FLOOR AT MCDONALDS. RON PPAUL IS PUSSY ASK HIM TO STICK HIS OWN FINGER UP HIS ASS AND SMELL IT!

[1madaboutguitar]

This is a freemasonic society. Why would anybody trust a single word he says?

[AnglesM888]

@1madaboutguitar Remember even freemason= Freeman + SO...:-) are people. Religion is a way of life not jimbo jambo!! It is. Anyone who knows what is going on knows very well that there are no society which have left untouched if they had any power before. Its awakening time, But first people have to learn!!

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@1madaboutguitar

Not all of the members of the John Birch Society are Freemasons. Although many of the older members might be; since being a Freemason (for most people) was a social club or a service organization (Shriners & their hospitals). Years ago the local businessmen and factory owners joined all kinds of clubs and organizations (so did other people)

The John Birch Society is a conservative group that was once part of the Republican party (think Barry Goldwater)

[ababeau71]

shame ron paul and his politics are too intelligent for the 95% dumb usa public

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@ababeau71 Most of the people, of most countries are "dumb as 'sheeple'!"

[clarkygorny]

RON PAUL caught again making sense and being honest!!

Ron Paul 2012 time to govern ourselves.

[missymcr3]

What exactly is Ron Paul's involvement with the John Birch society? Is he a member?

[usintelreport]

@missymcr3

no

just a guest

i think they're a nutty organization, but hey, we need all the allies we can get

[TheGoalSetter]

When I learned about the JBS's message, I see that this rhetoric has been around for decades. I had picked it up over the years and merely been parroting it.

I believed I wasn't one of those gullible "sheeple". My attributes indicate that I'm a free thinker, but apparently I'm not. I just fell for rhetoric that appealed to my sub-culture. There is almost zero data to back up not only neocon and liberal ideas, but also the Birchers.

I've 'shrugged' the neocons, now I shrug the Birchers.

[yanikv]

this is exactly why Paul will never get elected in this country speaking for an organization like this. The JB society has a terrible reputation associated with racism, which makes it antithetical to the most cherished values of this country. Stupid Ron, just so damn stupid.

[3martijns]

woody wilson was prez in1913 - a very evil man.

[DandyAndy827]

@3martijns he arguably did more to destroy this country and undermine our freedoms than any other president of the 20th century

[yourboycal]

Cant we all just get along ? Put aside the left wing right wing shinangons .. and call each other brothers and sisters and human beings living on the same rock called earth =)

[TheGoalSetter]

@yourboycal "I will pistol whip anyone who says 'shenanigan' again."

[RPenta]

The Birchers are an interesting variety of right winger--they preach about limited government but were ready to go to nuclear war with the Soviets--that sounds pretty "unlimited" to me. Unlike real libertarians they do not grasp the contradiction, if you will excuse a Commie-term, between a republic and an empire and will never admit the USA took the route of empire at least since the Spanish American War.

[75273]

Indeed, there may very well be merit to what you are stating. I have recommended that the upper management of JBS read anything and everything by Antony Sutton. The last speech JBS CEO Art Thompson puts the vast majority of blame for Islamic Terrorism on the Russians... but he failed to mention that the Russians/Soviet Union are entirely product of western technology and investment, as have been, and are, most enemies of the west today (sadly).

[RPenta]

Thank you. It seems to me that from the founding of the JBS, that they have focused almost exclusively on anti-communism and have not realized or wanted to face the fact that a centralized government armed to the teeth, equipped with every surveillance device known to man and unlimited funds is a danger not only to its citizens but to all peoples in all countries. Worst of all, is the national delusion that we are always right, and everybody else is always wrong and against us.

[jackiemickie]

Worst of all, is the national delusion that we are always right, and everybody else is wrong and against us. Sounds like you are talking about the left wing radicals who jammed the unconstitutional health care individual mandates down everybody's throat.. As for as eveybody's against us . The left wingers are right to think that bcause everybody is.

I am free and sovereign. I'm not a owned slave. The American people can't be forced to buy something. I'll the see left wingers in court.

[BoudiccaBlanc]

1-2 @RPenta

The post-war period (circa 1946-1970) was a period of intense stress between the USA and USSR.

Stalin was not a nice guy (neither was Mao in China) both Republicans and Democrats were willing go to war to prevent Stalin from gobbling up Western Europe or parts of Asia.

They know the difference between an empire and a republic. It's just that the above period was one in which the USA fell into the role of "empire". It isn't something we sought.

(cont..)

[BoudiccaBlanc]

2-2 @RPenta

Teddy Roosevelt's "empire" idea was that of a mercantile nation with a strong merchant marine and a navy to protect the US ships. The goods were expected to be made in America.

The USA supported the Cuban revolution with Spain during the Spanish-American War (Monroe Doctrine)

The US had interests in Hawaii (since late 1700's/early 1800's) The Spanish had control of the Philippines . They would have attacked Hawaii in retaliation for Cuba.

[kirkfisher2005]

@BoudiccaBlanc Nixon wasn't exactly a nice guy either when he paired up with macnamara and kissinger to raze asia and south america... fact check: we did seek empire, and now were reaping the sow

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@kirkfisher2005

There's something bigger at work here; that goes beyond the Cold War players. I call it "Neo-Feudalism"

(some have termed it Islamic Supremacism NWO, etc.)

There are groups of people who know what the rest of us don't. They may be in competition with each other; but they share the same goal (i.e. world-dominance)

btw: Communism as practiced in the USSR and China is also a form of "Neo-Feudalism". (Think about the realities not the propaganda re: individuals.)

[xdream2]

@RPenta they're not right wing at all. They were ready to defend America against aggressive attacks from any nation. The John Birch Society are Constitutional moderates. They want America to go back to a Republic, not an Oligarchy (group of people whether Communist, socialist, or any group controlling the capital of production). Capital is the use of producing food or any number of consumer products.

[The5t0ne0fDaniel2]

freedom for catholics?

[Superplatanoman]

Ron Paul hanging with the bigots John Birch Soceity? Oh great

[ROPdude]

@Superplatanoman Did you listen to a word he said you ignorant fool?

[bloodybob1964]

you are a commie douche bag

[TheAerialbomb]

American people consisted of four groups: "Communists, communist dupes or sympathizers, the uninformed who have yet to be awakened to the communist danger, and the ignorant."

[rolsby]

Is anyone else having problems watching this? I'm getting the "An error occurred, please try again later." On separate machines, separate days.

[eXecutivedirectress]

I can watch

[NameNotAlreadyTaken2]

What I don't get about Paul is how so many internet denizens decided to support him despite how unabashedly crazy he his. How did so many people never find out virtually anything about the real Ron Paul for so long?

[CajunCommie]

Willful ignorance? Since the self-destruct of the left in the US people who are angry at the system have no real outlet for change, and here come's Paul and his ilk, spouting folksy rhetoric about freedom and liberty that rings true to people raised in ahistorical America.

[jackiemickie]

To most left wingers anybody who believes in constitutional rights and freedom are crazy.

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@NameNotAlreadyTaken2

Ron Paul isn't "crazy" What Ron Paul talks about is the US Constitution and how it should be used as a basis for the laws we construct today.

[Scanman22]

The only thing that concerns me is that you cona't raise higher than local government without the backing of highpowered reps or dems in your corner. And we all know where the higher ups stand. So did Ron Paul fake his way through or change his mind?

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

well I guess you don't know about Ron Paul then, because they been trying to get him unelected for a long time but the problem is that the people in his voting dictrict don't buy the negative propaganda about him! High powered Republicans and Democracts been trying to get him out of office for a long time!

[ExquisiteDoom]

I know that, but he's still around mysteriously. Haven't others died or been removed for much less than that? And by the way, did you know that the fed will be replaced by the IMF? It's already begun to, so yea, i have serious doubts about this whole end the fed thing since it's powers are about to be transmitted elsewhere. It's all about diversion.

[genuinepizza]

It's all a big conspiracy haha.

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

I doubt you even know what conspiracy means. Go ask your local procecuter what it means and he will tell you that it means 2 or more people CONSPIRING to commit a criminal act. Such as CONSPIRACY to commit murder. CONSPIRACY to commit rape. CONSPIRACY to commit bank robbery. CONSPIRACY to commit fraud. CONSPIRACY to commit theft.

Don you have a problem with CONSPIRACY now?

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

Got proof of your accusations or are you another one of these Eric John Felps followers that accuses everybody of being a kight of malta. What is Ron Paul stiring up? Freedom? Responsible govt? Self Responsibilty? I am sure you're just stiring up the pot with baseless accusations.

[ExquisiteDoom]

Uh, it's on their web site, on wikipedia... and many more. The sources are HUGE, and he is a very good friend of Gary North which was an ex-member iof the council for national policy, plus, Ron Paul's father was a freemason, and he does not deny this. It's really not like it ain't obvious.

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

wiwkipedia? Oh! where anyone can post and change info. even the person or group or issue can come and change the info you just posted. Not too trustworthy. Give me Ron Paul's Lodge # if you believe he is a freemason because if you can't , then you're pissing in high wind blowing in your direction. Thing is it's obvious you don't want to debunk Ron Paul's info because you can't so you do what debunkers always do. Attack the character of the messenger!

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

And in fact Ron Paul will appear anywhere for any group that will invite him to speak! It's about the message and spreading it far and wide! It's a silly argument to diss someone just because of the location of where they give a speech instead of what the speech contains!

[ExquisiteDoom]

He's never really been too far from the GBS, nor the knights of malta. Nor the council for national policy. Instead of taking the risk of following someone blindly, you might want to do your research and see if my information rings true, rather than take it on faith that it probably wrong. I'm not unreasonable here, i'm merely saying i have my own doubts. And Pat Buchannan is mentionned on the Malta site.

[ottopsynk]

@CherokeeApacheIrish Will he attend KKK meetings and Neo Nazi groups, too?

[arrmutt]

@ottopsynk Paul wouldn't attend anymore, but he takes money and does photo-ops with them. Look up Stormfront.

[xdream2]

@ottopsynk you think kkk meetings are worse than a president who slaughtered 200,000 Africans to steal their oil, and dinar, and set up al queda as their government? THAT'S racist. Your arguments are weak association fallacies. Next.

[DobbsCat00]

@CherokeeApacheIrish By this argument, it'd be okay for Ron Paul to time-travel and appear before a crowd of Nazis at a Nuremburg rally. Sorry, "location" (not to mention the political bent of the hosting group) matters.

[xdream2]

@DobbsCat00 Define nazi. It's a socialism that controls business through an elite oligarchy. By that definition, Ron Paul IS appearing before nationalist fascists. Location, and political bent does not matter. You're using an association fallacy. For instance, if you support Obama, the bush clone, but you hate the banksters the 1 percent, then you cannot support Obama because the banksters support him. It's the INDIVIDUAL that makes the difference, not the group.

[ExquisiteDoom]

I'm not saying Paul is a freemason , i'm saying his father is, also his daughters are attenting classes as sunshine girls, which is a school for the daughters of freemasonry. He's also got a few symbolism in his vicinity, but i don't think that's too relevant. And i'm not attacking Ron Paul, i would love his message to be true, it rings true to my ears, but i do know that politics corrupt absolutely.

[repoocmailliw]

@ExquisiteDoom Psycho-Politics! check out Bill Cooper's - Straight talk about Revolution and Aaron Russo interview ... He was going to release a Documentary on how to watch for FAKES called Trojan Horses but he was killed before he got to finish it! It was his main mission aside from 9/11 ... also check out "September Clues" open your mind and review only the facts! PLEASE WAKE UP AND HELP US!

[ExquisiteDoom]

@repoocmailliw Wake up from what? I couldn't give less than a shit about Bill Cooper.

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@ExquisiteDoom

Ron Paul --"Raised a Lutheran, Paul later became a Baptist" -wikipedia.

Knights of Malta and the Jesuits are Roman Catholic organizations. Many of Europe's (Catholic) royalty belong to the Knights of Malta.

[Nautilus3333]

Racists? You need to get your history right pal, you're WAY off base. They were never a racist organization, they were a virulently anti-communist organization. Get your facts right.

[LibertyInOurTime]

You know nothing. Keep on swallowing the deception, you must be a victim of public education. The U.S. government investigated the JBS and found no links to racism or racist groups. The JBS and its members exposed the KKK and worked to expose how the communists tried to pit white against black to foment race riots. Get ur facts straight before rehashing typical ignorant mythology about the JBS.

[Nibielari]

not sure on all you said except for the communists thing. the communist and socialism movements in this country biggest strength when they got the black and white workers to join together. the goverenment helped create racism in this country to keep the minorities and the poor white workers from joining together. Read A Peoples History of the United States by Howard Zinn. this book will blow your hair back

[id1337x]

Communists have been some of the greatest opponents of nationalism, racism, nazis, the kkk, etc... Your the one who needs to get your facts straight. When their are KKK rallies and neo-nazis it is socialists who actively and often violently protest them. Why the hell would socialists rather then capitalists want to divide the working class against one another like you say?

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

Nope you facts are totally wrong! Fact: Hitlers govt was THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY. Fact: most of the KKK and Neo-Nazi groups have FBI informants running their ranks and are the ones provoking violate acts. Fact: the KKK and neo-nazi groups in the US are on average as small as a microb on a ants ass. Fact: it was the higher class RICH as you would call them that financed the damm Russian communist revolution in the 1st place!

[VictoryCough]

Ha, in the 60's they were criticized by anit-semitic groups for accepting non-whites and mormons as members?

[BigRedMcCool]

The voice of truth and reason speaks again! Ron Paul for US President 2012!

[tesla921]

If most people would step back from their state education/indoctrination they would see that;

1. Freedom equals progress and prosperity.

2. Big Gov't equals slavery and oppression.

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

Want to know why they don't want to? Its because they HATE self responsibilty, because thats what FREEDOM is all about!

[tesla921]

You're right. They hate self responsibility because that's what they are taught by the state. The state wants you to be dependent upon it.

Imagine how great society would be if freedom were taught and self responsibility was incentivised.

..see Ludwig Von Mises or A.J. Galambos.

[ExquisiteDoom]

Though i agree with Ron Paul's message i fear that he's got an unholy agenda. He's sorta legitimising politicians as well, which simply offends me. you should know as well as i do that governments are the monopoly of violence and control.. But then again, i'm a anarchist.

[CherokeeApacheIrish]

A anarchist hey? Hmmm well I am 2/3 rd Indiginess Indian and I can tell you 300 years ago my ancestors were as anarchist as one can be and I very much doubt you have the skills to survive in that period of history. Want a world without rules then be prepaired to defend your physical life every day against one or many who would try and take your life or freedom from you. anarchy is just chaos which has not much to do with freedom. Freedom is something you take. By force if necessary!

[Weapon01]

LRC!