Secrets of The CIA - Indonesia

[josecano1992]

Lol only get worse? Osama dead, kadafi dead, kim jong il dead the US is winning you fucks. Good luck with your poverty!

[da13thsun]

I wonder how you so call americans thats all ways running and yelling USA like you some great country. NOOOOOO youre evil and GOD is paying you back now.  OH yeah its about to get worse. This is the belly of the beast and its a damn shame. THe only racist people on the planet are from USa/vatican/isarel/zionist devils.

[EkajTheSwordsman]

@ccmm53095 The US did try to overthrow Sukarno in the fifties, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the 1965 coup. When US diplomats were asked by Indonesia for arms, the State Department stonewalled, replying: “There was to be no implication of providing anything more than medical supplies already authorized, but the US officials could ask questions to clarify any Indonesia requests for additional aid.”

[ccmm53095]

@EkajTheSwordsman: That's not true. The State Department considered that “Small arms and equipment may be needed [by the Army] to deal with the PKI." Marshall Green, US Ambassador to Indonesia, advised that the US “explore the availability of small arms stocks, preferable of non-US origin, which could be obtained without any overt US Government involvement,” and “examine channels through which we could, if necessary, provide covert assistance to army for purchase of weapons."

[ccmm53095]

@EkajTheSwordsman: In addition to support the US was providing during the killings, arms obtained through previous grants of assisstance were used in the crackdown. Total US MAP to Indonesia between 1950 and 1965 was $63,200,000. Roughly $59,000,000 of this was delivered in 1959-65, including over 100,000 small arms, some 2,000 trucks, and various other forms of equipment. The US also provided massive aid to Suharto when in power. US aid was consistent before, during, and after the massacre.

[ccmm53095]

@EkajTheSwordsman: It is true that US did not mastermind the coup. It wouldn't be true to say that the US did not play a role in the killings.

[EkajTheSwordsman]

This is patently false nonsense. No one offered Sukarno more aid and support than the United States.

[ccmm53095]

@EkajTheSwordsman: True, Sukarno did receive US aid, in fact Indonesia had been a recipient of American aid since 1950. However, the US supplied this aid because it feared that if it didn't form close military and economic ties with Indonesia, it would become increasingly more reliant on the USSR and the PRC. Sukarno stood in the way of America's plans for the region, he had to go. The CIA had been attempting to depose Sukarno since the mid-1950s, and almost did so in 1958. Read about it.

[EkajTheSwordsman]

@ccmm53095 American officials were so unprepared for the crisis that at first they misidentified the anti-communist leader, General Suharto. The Johnson Administration expressly refused to supply weapons for the mass killing of Indonesian communists. I agree about the US motive for aiding Sukarno.

[ccmm53095]

@EkajTheSwordsman: That is not entirely true. The United States set up a designated liaison in Bangkok, Thailand, through which the Indonesian generals made requests for logistical support meant specifically to aid in killing. The support came mostly in the form of tactical communications equipment which served to patch a communications gap between government headquarters and military commands carrying out repressive activities in Sumatra, Java, and Sulawesi.

[goeleet]

Iran South Korea Laos Birma Vietnam Egypt Iraq Congo Angola Cambodia Afghanistan Kazachstan Turkmenistan Saudi Arabia Ghana Nigeria Malawi South Africa Eritrea Etheopia Kenya Somalia Sudan Guatemala Honduras Nicaragua Guyana Dominican Republic Haiti Chile Argentina Bolivia Brazil Colombia Peru Venezuela, and lots more. All done by the CIA for US interests. Not the interests of the American people, but the interest of a small group of dominant American men behind the scenes of financial fascism.

[IndoAtheist]

HARTO was a good CIA puppet and a notorious person..his smile is so vicious...32 years under so called 'ORDE BARU' military dictatorship indonesia became a 'rising star' in the ragion (a fake one), with new education systems purpose only to brain washed masses..and created a leftist/socialist/marxist/comm­unist ghost to scare the masses but we know now that day is already gone when we discovered our country had a load of shit of HUGE DEBT and unlimited mass corruption (army and his cronies)

[frits1234567890]

and the sad thing is nothing has changed,america still uses this holocaust methode under the name "democracy".

[David2cool4u]

hmmm very interesting part of Indonesian history.

[pebruary]

The CIA toppled Sukarno because he would not be an American puppet. The CIA bombed innocent Inonesians and along with MI6 organised 'Islamic' terrorism. The CIA also toppled Suharto.