Robert F. Kennedy's hired bodyguard was following right behind him in the kitchen and shot him right through the neck from behind once Sirhan Sirhan began firing. And, yes, he was CIA...
The Kennedy family. If I lost 2 brothers. to shootings. I would be crazy too. They were 2 people. That lost there lives. So Sad even after almost 50 years. A dead President. And a brave young man. That's how I feel!
Amazing if you think about it how nieve people were at that time. what only four or five years later after his brother was shot in an open limo he is standing up in an open car . He may as well put a gun to his own head.
I lived in Calif when all those crazy deluded people were drooling all over them.
Throughout history Republicans have been portrayed the rich, greedy evil-doers.
But if the Kennedy's owned the factory you worked in, you would get LESS than minimum wage. Reason why they are the richest of all. Next to John Kerry.
The Kennedys were the modern-day version of the Roman Gracchus (Gracchi) brothers, who both tried to reform Rome and both were assassinated for it by Rome's versions of the "insiders." History repeats itself. I have lived with that for over 40 years now and frankly, have quietly researched this whole sorry, nasty betrayal for about 48 years. Enough. I want my government (which I support) to finally do right by me and by you. I want the truth. Job 1 is for them to tell the people the truth.
Was the war in Vietnam unnecessary? Of course. If not, then how come my Reebok zig running shoes (I have 3 pair) all were made in Vietnam? If they are a threat to mankind, why do we trade with them?
When the Kennedys were willing to take on groups like Big Business, Big Oil, the CIA and the MAFIA, they were really fighting for common humanity. That is really why we still love them. They fought our fight for justice and a sense of fairness, mostly because the rest of us aren't strong enough. The CIA could and would squash any of us like a bug and so would Big Oil, but they had to take the Kennedys seriously. I truly hope they rot in Hell forever for killing them and I mean forever.
Only a true loser would hate Bobby Kennedy. Hey, you can disagree with his beliefs if you like, but never hate the man. He tried to do good and he tried to stop the war. A lot of families would not have lost their sons to an unwinnable war had he lived. The CIA got their nasty, unnecessary war and we all paid for it. Thanks for nothing.
I loved Bobby Kennedy and I never felt that way about any politician ever again. When the insiders killed the Kennedys, they robbed us of much of what was great, noble. decent and worth fighting for. I agree with Rose Kennedy "I shall never see his like (in this life) again."
I remember this so well, I was doing campaign work for him in San Francisco, real work with other young students! The evening he was killed I was asleeep and my mom didn't wake me up and the next morning I was told the sad news...I really felt helpless, without hope!
There will always be the miserable of this world. The 8 people who dislike this most heartwarming & inspiring video represent that percentage of losers!
As a concerned American I feel like I have a right to know why the CIA killed John and Robert Kennedy. It is now almost fifty years later ... you know what, it is time to tell the truth.
@Boelcke1919 The government and the media in lockstep refuse to help us find out the truth. Why? Because it was people in government who killed them both. These two were a force to be reckoned with. Fearless leaders, unafraid to stand up for what was right. Please watch JFK My Business Was Mankind, where he pledges his total support to the people and chastises big business for their greed.
The campaign by some to hate and even degrade the Kennedys only shows me how great they were (are). It is really something to engender that kind of hatred. In 1968 we got the evil Tricky Dicky instead of the kind Robert Kennedy.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, he was the greatest President we never had. Especially after his dear brother Jack was killed so senselessly Bobby grew ever more intensely feeling and compassionate. He wanted nothing more than peace and harmony in the world, for those forgotten to be remembered and helped to become an equal part of society that they should always have been. He was loyal to a fault, determined, bold, and tough in so many ways, a real man. He is still missed.
@MrRanwolfe "its a shame they took from us a great man"
Who TF are 'THEY'? Did you mean 'HE'
~ Sirhan saw RFK as a threat to his return to his homeland of Palestine. He shot RFK because 2 wks prior silly headed RFK promised to replace the 50 Phantom jet fighters that Israel had lost in the just recent '6 Day War' with the Arabs
~ Next to the RFK news article pasted in Sirhan's notebook found by police he wrote "RFK Must Die"
@proferic "Nothing u listed here was a violation of any law in the '60's. Nothing!"
Obstruction of Justice, Perjury, Conspiracy to Commit Illegal Acts Against the People of the US, Corruption of any number of laws, Wire Fraud, Volations of law and house rules stemming from illegal use of campaign funds,
@JgarfbiHoover Nope. "Conspiracy to Commit Illegal Acts Against the People of the U.S."??? That isn't even a law. Wire fraus=Nope. Violations of law and house rules from illegal use of campaign funds?? No. there was barely any laws regulating the use of campaign funds in the 60's. That didn't come about until Watergate. Sounds to me like your'e just (as per usual) just talking out of your ass about something you know nothing about.
@proferic Was that 'Irish Mobster' JFK continually violating the law ?
In the 1946 House of Representatives race, Joe Sr. spent $300,000 on his campaign in violation of law. JFK reported to the Massachusetts Secretary of State that there were no campaign contributions or expenditures.
"JFK's 1952 Senate seat was won by skullduggery" Reeves p.106
@JgarfbiHoover Skullduggery in't a crime. Nor are independent campaign expenditures. JFK, was not always aware of what daddy was doing in the back ground. No crime!
@proferic Mafia Upset w/JFK ! Particularly Jimmy Hoffa & Chicago/Louisiana families Giancana told Judith Campbell Exner, "Listen, honey, if it wasn't for me, your boyfriend wouldn't even be in the WH" JFK had sent 1/4M w/Exner to Giancana for the mob to get out the union vote and make corrupt unions contribute to JFK's campaign. Gen. Dynamics blackmailed JFK to give them the TFX fighter contract 6.5B dollars, the largest in history to that point, after bugging Exner's apartment.
@JgarfbiHoover Everything you've written here is about JFK. We are arguing over RFK. Which, you barely seem to mention. And ordering a "limited autopsy" (which I highly dounbt), is not illegal. I'm not saying JFK or RFK were saints, they weren't at all. They were heavy duty power players, as is anyone who gets to that level of politics. Hiding JFK's addison's disease wasn't a crime. Jesus, you need to get a life.
@proferic JFK used the FBI to his personal advantage and to silence press critics. In early 1961 JFK planted family friend Carmine Bellino in the IRS with the title "special consultant to the president " & demanded that he have access to tax returns. They turned the IRS into a lending library. Quoting from the Wall Street Journal of 01/28/97 : "the Kennedys were far worse than Nixon in their manipulation of the IRS..."
VERY ILLEGAL ! ALL IRS INFO. IS ABOVE TOP SECRET !
@proferic JFK orders hand picked successor to Dulles, John McCone to form a "Plumbers Unit"
(Google 'CIA Family Jewels') Under his main henchman RFK to illegally spy on American's to stop White House leaks. They target Washingting Post reporters first ....
CIA CHARTER DESIGNED BY CONGRESS EXPRESSLY FORBIDS THE CIA TO ENGAGE IN ANY DOMESTIC SPYING ON US CITIZENS! THIS GOES WAY BEYOND ILLEGAL THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!
Now u know where Nixon learned all his 'Dirty Tricks' from eh?
JFK did Fiddle and Faddle SS code names for 21 & 23 yr & staff members hired mostly for sex. JFK tested dangerous drugs on them w/out their knowledge by putting it in their drinks. WH intern Marion "Mimi" Beardsley whose married name is Fahnestock was 19 when JFK raped her (statutory rape - the age of consent was 21 in DC at the time). A powerful older man preying on vulnerable young women is what 'Sexual Harassment' is all about.
@proferic Anniversary As Cuba Remembers JFK'S TERRORIST 'Op Mongoose' !
50 yrs on JFK Do-Gooders won't talk about terrorist attack on the French ship 'La Coubre' in Havana Harbor leaving 100 dead & 200 wounded. JFK'S TERRORIST program exploded into the world's news as REVENGE for the Kennedy family name being besmirched by the Bay of Pigs ! 15 month's after the triumph of the Cuban Revolution till this day Cuban's are still asking : "Where is justice for this barbaric act by JFK"?
@cdddraftsman does it make you feel important to lie? The JFK administration and RFK were the first to prosecute the Mafia and they did it with abandon going after the whole mob for racketeering and murder. So yes they were involved in Racketeering, but on the prosecution side. They never purjured themselves or murdered anyone or approved of ANY assassination nor bribed anyone or raped and they hated the CIA. Your full of it.
@rocketstar "going after the mob" JFK 'Racketeersman of the New Frontier' !
Q: What Was JFK's 'Anti-Racketeering Crusade' All About?
A: It Was Actually His Own Personal Protection Racket
~ Mafia who backed (R) Nixon for President Jimmy Hoffa & Dave Beck etc were hounded into prison on trumped up charges while
~ Mafia who backed (D) JFK for President Walter & Victor Reuther etc were allowed to commit crimes w/impunity Google Ralph de Toledano (Expert Witness on Mafia) for Hoffa Frame-Up
@proferic FDR clearly proved you wrong. His GOVERNMENT's New Deal sure as shit took us out of the Great Depression and put the economy in the best state it's been since.
@sumskater999 Uh. . . . . .NO, Doofus!!! The U.S. got out of the Depression because of the massive spending by going on a wartime footing in the 1940's. WW II got us out of the Depression, not the New Deal. By the time the New Deal ended in the late 1930's (the last New Deal legislation was passed in 1937), the US economy had slid back into a recession. Read up on your history next time before spouting off.
@proferic Actually YOU ought to read history. When FDR took office, unemployment was 25% in 1933. In 1938, BEFORE WW2 started, it was 19%. In 1941, when we finally joined the war in DECEMBER, it was already 10%. Then through wartime effort AND the New Deal, it sunk to 2% in 1945. And the New Deal never ended; it still exists today. Only new New Deal legislation ended. And the recession was a temporary fallback, due to the fact that we were overcoming the biggest recession in our history.
@sumskater999 "In 1938, BEFORE WW2 started, it was 19%"
Actually you're both a little bit right. Kinda like being a little bit pregnant. The "1938 unemployment" reflects FDR's 'Arsenal of Democracy' policy which in historic terms is directly linked to the USG's gearing up for war AND WW2 ITSELF by putting us on a wartime footing by putting ppl to work making armaments. There was nothing happening to spark us out of the Great Depression except the comming war and everybody knew it at the time.
@proferic "WW II got us out of the Depression, not the New Deal"
~ The "New Deal" set the tone and cadence that recovery was on the way and gave the USG the moral authority, when it counted the most, that welded the Nation together after Dec. 7th.
~ Don't underestimate the moral boost that it had, right or wrong, helpful or hurtful, the ppl felt that the USG was finally trying to help irregardless of the actual impact upon the recovery
Sometimes just a helpful hand can cause miracles eh?
@WALRU11 I know you're secretely enjoying every word of .John's dismantling of Douglass' tribute to American's popular delusions. I refuse to believe you're not unless what some of my followers are right and you are "KGB Vermin".
@JgarfbiHoover He hasn't even read Douglass' book. He's a mindless drone who is reciting, rote, the words of a rigthwing revisionist engaged in posthumous assassination of JFK. Douglass' book is a worthy contribution to more accurate comprehension of JFK's transitional presidency, but fails to adequately substantiate its claims as it would require several volumes of preceding deep history to document how the Dulles brothers, Nixon & Ike sold out this country to Neo-Nazis military corporatism.
Martin: It’s generally true all over the world, whether it’s in a shooting war or a different kind of a war. But the president was convinced that we had to keep, had to stay in there . . .
Kennedy: Yes.
Martin: . . . and couldn’t lose it.
Kennedy: Yes.
Martin: And if Vietnamese were about to lose it, would he propose to go in on land if he had to?
Kennedy: Well, we’d face that when we came to it.[21]
@WALRU11 against Cuba that targeted manufacturing, electric, transportation, and oil facilities. Why? Because he “succumbed to Cold War pressures . . . ”[12] This depiction of a spineless chief executive is all the more jarring because Douglass obviously intended to produce a glowing portrait of Kennedy’s 1,000 days. Authors of assassination-related books that misuse
@JgarfbiHoover You're hideously clueless. You know NOTHING of John F. Kennedy. Nothing. Your post is another lazy ideological cut-&-paste from a rightwing revisionist tract. Read a book, moron, instead of pasting polemics from web site searches as you seek to discredit a president you know nothing about. You're an idiot.
troops at the rate of 1,000 or so per month after 1964. Finally, in an October 1999 discussion with Oberdorfer, Mansfield said that Kennedy planned to make perhaps “some minor withdrawals” after the election.[19] Which nuanced statement should be believed? Douglass uses only the one he finds attractive. Besides illustrating the vagaries of memory, it would seem more than likely that Kennedy—knowing
@WALRU11 the pressures of McNamara, [Maxwell] Taylor and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and approved a criminal action.” Michael Forrestal, an NSC aide, is quoted as saying, “I believe [Kennedy’s] main train of thinking was that you cannot say no to your military advisers all the time.”[11]
•On June 19, 1963, Kennedy approved a CIA-directed sabotage program
@JgarfbiHoover Yet another of your useless cut & paste passages, you spineless cretin. Before you post again, try reading, studying, THINKING! But of course that's too taxing for your feeble mind. You bore me, you mental toad.
Then, in a second letter, Mansfield denied that Kennedy “even mentioned the thought” of the 1964 presidential election. Subsequently, in 1975, Mansfield wrote to a professor and said that Kennedy had resolved “to withdraw our forces from Vietnam.” Yet, in a 1989 letter to another author, Mansfield wrote that Kennedy only planned to withdraw “some troops” following the ’64 election. In a June 1998 interview with his biographer, Don Oberdorfer, Mansfield stated that Kennedy planned to withdraw
@JgarfbiHoover Stop wasting Youtube space & everyone's time by cutting & pasting unoriginal disinformation.
I regard your posts as useless spam. They are from McAdams' plethora of lies, distortions, & perversions of the public record. I am done with you as you've proven yourself to be a brainless sycophant to rightwing revisionists. Goodbye.
@Walru11 : CHARLES BREHM "Mark Lane takes very great liberties w/adding to my quotes. I never said that any shot came from the GK like I was quoted. Lane would like me to have positively identified what I saw fly o/here as skull.... although I told him I could not identify it . I did not examine it .. So he has added his interpretations to what I said & consequently that's where the story comes from. No shot came from up the Grassy Knoll at any time during the whole fiasco that afternoon"
@WALRU11 "officially the CIA was part of "the JFK admin."
You'll never make a historian or a good writer. The CIA is an independent agency from the USG, it's the smallest, least well funded of the 16 known Intellegence agency's w/an additional 6 thought to act in complete secrecy, W/a $50B/Yr. budjet, all under the Pentagon's control, it's used as a whipping post to deflect attention away from the others by writers like you who haven't the foggiest idea about what you're talking about.
@auther1046 What planet are you living on? You're absurdly wrong. The CIA is NOT "an independent agency from the US govt." It was instituted as part of the Executive branch in 1947 under the NSA Act. Nor is it the least funded of US intelligence. FYI: most of its funding is covert (hidden in other appropriation bills) & highly classified. Nor is it under Pentagon control at all. What an asinine claim! Your grasp of govt is not even tenuous at best. Your statements are ludicrous.
Parallel Narratives .... JFK and the Unspeakable is structured so that it develops two parallel but supposedly complementary narratives: Kennedy’s statements and actions regarding Vietnam (in public, private, and in policy-making circles), and, simultaneously, the machinations of those who are conspiring to kill Kennedy. Both story lines are chock full of problems and cannot withstand elementary scrutiny. Long before Kennedy ever arrives in Dallas, Texas, and the strands finally come
@auther1046 It's obvious from your lunatic posts that your worthless opinion derives from a total lack of research & analysis beyond a few revisionist texts & cruising web sites that support your bias. JFK & the Unspeakable doesn't develop along 2 parallel narratives, but chronicles JFK's path toward peace & internal opposition to it. Nor is it "chock full of problems & cannot withstand elementary scrutiny." Rather, as your posts reveal, it is you who is incapable of even elementary scrutiny.
@WALRU11 •In 1962, Kennedy decided to send military and CIA advisers into Laos and enlist Hmong tribesmen to resist Communism. By doing so, Douglass declares, JFK was “working within Cold War assumptions and playing into the hands of his own worst enemy, the CIA.”[10]
•In October 1962, JFK approved a plan to destroy crops in South Vietnam with herbicides, for the purpose of denying food to the Viet Cong. As Douglass puts it, “Kennedy had yielded to the
2 honest liberal historians on Lane's 'Rush to Judgment'
"Provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry, with in it's scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes are100's of errors. Quotes have been quietly changed in over 200 instances from doc. versions, important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to
@auther1046 You say "Liberals" criticized of Lane's work, as if the left was going to defend it! Please! You don;t get it, do you? This was a COUP. As for "100s of errors" - that's laughable. Have you read Rush to Judgment? Point out the errors. They cite "quotes quietly changed from doc. versions." Duh! Because witnesses who gave them to the Commission were shocked to find the official report had altered their testimony. Lane interviewed them & reported their accurate statements.
@WALRU11 P1 "Duh! Because witnesses who gave them to the WC were shocked to find the official report had altered their testimony"
HAHAHAHA !
AND YET THE MOST DAMAGING TESTIMONY OF ALL CONCERNING A GRASSY KNOLL ASSASSIN WITNESS JEAN HILL : "PUFF OF SMOKE" "JR RUNNING ACROSS DP INFEILD" "FBI CONFISCATED MY CAMERA" WENT UNOPPOSED BY COUNTER TESTIMONY & WAS PRINTED ACCURATELY AND LEFT IN THE REPORT ? WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT ? U'RE JUST SILLY HEADED ! "Lane interviewed them" UNSWORN TESTIMONY
@auther1046 FYI: I've owned & read all 26 volumes since 1964 & have Lane's book & a library of eyewitness reports & other sources sufficient to overfill your living room. Hill's was not "the most damaging testimony" - just one of the vast majority (67+%) of eyewitnesses who reported shots from behind the picket fence. Key eyewitnesses were ignored, including Ed Hoffman & Gordon Arnold. Of those whose testimoney was taken, ala Julia Ann Mercer, it was glaringly altered to support the govt lie.
@WALRU11 analysis of the facts. Douglass wears his politics on his sleeve. He is a Catholic “peace activist” and disciple of Thomas Merton, whose observations infuse the book. Self-styled activists like Douglass have a long history of being opposed to the use of military power by the United States, although they don’t seem to mind as much when military power is used by America’s adversaries. And while they employ religious rhetoric to justify and rationalize their unilateral pacifism, their
@auther1046 Douglass readily admits his pacifism. It doesn't automatically nullify his account. Nor does he condone military power used by America's adversaries as you wrongly claim. He is not duplicitous or an apologist for militarists of any stripe. He is an author & historian whose analysis of the early 1960s chronicles the internal battle between a leader seeking peace & opponents entrenched in Cold War jingoistic thinking, with the result that a coup ensued that removed their obstacle.
@WALRU11 Cronkite, during a nationally-televised interview in September 1963, that it would be a great mistake for America to withdraw from Vietnam. And Douglass reluctantly concedes that the president told NBC’s Chet Huntley and David Brinkley, in another nationally-televised interview a week later, that “I think we should stay [in Vietnam]. We should use our influence in as effective a way as we can, but we should not withdraw.”[7] But then Douglass breezily dismisses both public statements
@KookTartsBigFarts1 "Stay" meant a much scaled-down advisory capacity, as JFK had already ORDERED withdrawal of troops and stated both publicly and privately his total opposition to commission of any combat capacity American troops. Review the interview. He clearly states, "in the final analysis it is THEIR war, and THEY have to fight it." Not Americans. The South Vietnamese. No equivocation. Stop with your feeble attempts to twist, revise, & pervert history. You're wrong. You've lost.
@auther1046 Mitrokhin? Please! The CIA rejected his files as fake. Only after Stone's film came out, causing mass public outcry for renewed govt disclosure of CIA involvement in the JFK killing, did they hook up with MI5 "court historian" Chris Andrews to purport these & other outrageous Mitrokhin claims - all neatly packaged to counter critics' revelations & support the Johnson Report. Interestingly, all other declassified KGB files contradict these MI5/CIA released Mitrokhin claims.
@Walru11 JFK Assassin' Mark Lane complicite in 900 deaths !
In 78' Jim Jones hired Lawyer Mark Lane to make the case of a "Grand Conspiracy" by intelligence agencies against the Peoples Temple. Lane spoke to the residents of Jonestown, providing support for Jones' theories & held press conferences saying "none of the charges" against the Temple "are true" & said they should stay , he was paid $6k/mo. for such theories.
Later 900 ppl died after taking cyanide laced 'Kool-Aid' at gunpoint
@auther1046 Once more you are completely misinformed. Jonestown was not a mass suicide & the people there did not "drink the Kool-aid." They were assassinated, along with Rep. Leo Ryan who had legislation pending mandating CIA submision to Congress of all covert ops for review & approval. As the Guyana coroner reported, victims were slaughtered by gunfire, some having been hunted down in the woods before being shot. (Besides, it wasn't Kool-Aid. it was "Flavor-Aid.) You know NOTHING.
@WALRU11 and the president’s admonition in this speech that “our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children’s future. And we are all mortal.” Coming eight months after the Cuban missile crisis, the address was an inspiring call for keeping the peace in the hair-trigger nuclear age. But Douglass conspicuously fails to mention some other remarks Kennedy made in the same breath.
Mongoose was led by Edward Lansdale in the Def Dept & William King Harvey at the CIA. Lansdale chosen due to his experience with counter-insurgency in the Philippines during the Huk Rebellion, Samuel Halpern, a CIA co-organizer, conveyed the breadth of involvement: “CIA & the US Army and military forces and Department of Commerce, and Immigration, Treasury, God knows who else — everybody was in Mongoose. It was a government-wide op run out of RFK's office.
@auther1046 Mongoose was a '61-'62 effort by the Kennedys to force Castro's focus onto domestic (destabilized) woes. By '63, following the CMC, JFK & RFK were actually dispatching SS & FBI to break up Mongoose & other anti-Castro ops, while back-channel negotiating with Castro for terms to end the embargo in exchange for his not exporting revolution. Castro & JFK were reaching agreement when the CIA killed JFK. Landsdale, Harvey & Halpern, all CIA, hated the Kennedys with a purple passion.
@WALRU11 "By '63, following the CMC, JFK & RFK were actually dispatching SS & FBI to break up Mongoose"
NONSENSE NO CITATIONS NOT BELIEVABLE ! MINE ARE ALL FROM WIKIPEDIA WITH HEAVY CITATIONS FROM THOSE WHO WOULD KNOW !
Wiki The Cuban Project. Operation Mongoose Memorandum
09/04/62 1st pg of a meeting (Real Document Shown) details the 'Smoking Gun' in JFK/RFK 'Conspiracy' to wreck Cuban Economy & Assassinate Castro w/ a 'Cover-Up' of transparency RFK COMPLAINING OF NOT ENOUGH TERRORISM
@auther1046 You cite "Wikipedia" as your ultimate source? You pathetic fool. Such online collective "history" can post anything & cite any source, credible or not. Admit it: you've never done an hour of independent investigative research on JFK's killing. never interviewed a single eyewitness, probably never even traveled to Dallas, New Orleans, Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, Tampa, or Washington D.C. You're an "armchair" sleuth, citing selective works that conform to your ideological polemics.
@Walru11 THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN F. KENNEDY by Historians DeLloyd J. Guth and David R. Wrone . Published in 1980. BTW it is subtitled : A COMPREHENSIVE AND LEGAL BIBLIORAPHY, 1963-1979 On p. viii of the preface they write : "We wish to lift the subject out of the quagmire of often bizarre speculations and exploitation by the likes of Mark Lane." Verification Mark Lane ex-Army Intelligence Officer Newspaper Wedding Announcement tinypic_com/view_php?pic=62j0os5 Ooops !
@auther1046 You're all over the board - first, claiming Lane is a commie financed by the KGB. Now you have him working for the CIA as a disinformation asset against the KGB, although Lane's published works finger the CIA as complicit in the JFK, MLKjr., & Jonestown slaughters. You have no critical thinking ability whatsoever. You mindlessly reiterate online blogs & selective out-of-context quotes, absent any comprehension of the case & historic characters. You're a simpleton & charlatan.
@WALRU11 together, the book ceases to be non-fiction and enters the realm of a self-indulgent political fantasy.The first narrative tries to portray Kennedy as a politician who started out a Cold Warrior, but broke through to a “deeper, more universal humanity” during his brief time in office.[3] This is not as easy to pull off as it might sound, because Douglass knows full well that many of Kennedy’s statements, as late as the morning of his death,
From Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archive and the Secret History of the KGB, pp. 225-230:
The WC, appointed by President LBJ to investigate JFK's assassination, reported in September 1964 that it had found "very persuasive" evidence that Oswald had acted alone and none of a conspiracy. Though the report was flawed, its main conclusions are probably accurate.
You're right KTBF's the Wallarooo I think is holding out for a raise. Somebody better tell em that the Cold War & Liberism are deader than that 'Irish Mobster' he fawns & gushes over so profusely. Since the Soviets are trying to throw off the yoke of there former self, maybe they'd pay him to STFU & Stand Down?
@10Faenorr Fae, you & BigFarts are doubtless mental Siamese twins sharing the same defective brain whose intellectual output isn't enough to measure double-digits on a Stanford-Binet test. As evidenced in your hideous notion of "Liberism" + your laughable belief in "Soviets" (“trying to throw off the yoke of there (sic) former selves”), it is advised that you try reading books instead of simply wiping your ass with the pages inside that fetid outhouse you inhabit, you moronic near-illiterate.
@WALRU11 Douglass approvingly cites Kenny O’Donnell’s suspect claim that Kennedy was going to get out of Vietnam as soon as he won the 1964 election.[15] Douglass quotes an “old friend” of Kennedy, Washington columnist Charles Bartlett, as having been told by Kennedy that “We don’t have a prayer of staying in Vietnam.”[16] JFK also supposedly told an “old friend” and neighbor, Larry Newman, that “The first thing I [will] do when I’m re-elected . . . I’m going to get the Americans out of
@JgarfbiHoover Thank you for reaffirming the fact of JFK's publicly and privately stated committment to withdraw U.S. troops from Vietnam. You're finally coming around to the realization that peace was his pursuit.
@WALRU11 Another private source Douglass misuses is former Senator Mike Mansfield (D-Montana), the majority leader during the Kennedy years. Unlike “honorary Kennedys,” Mansfield had an impeccable reputation for being honest and no motive to burnish JFK’s reputation posthumously. What he recollected about Kennedy’s Vietnam policy must be taken seriously. And Douglass enthusiastically quotes Mansfield as saying, “there is no doubt that [JFK] had shifted definitely and
@JgarfbiHoover Unlike you, reading revisionist authors seeking to advance their ideological agenda, I personally spoke with several highly placed administration officials with whom JFK discussed his plans for VIetnam, & to a man, they affirmed not only his unequivocal commitment to oppose direct U.S. military combat status in Vietnam & reduction of U.S. military advisors there, but conversion of S.V. defense to its own troops for a phased withdrawal of virtually all U.S. military personnel.
would be affected by the fall of Vietnam to the Communists, particularly as we had made such a fuss in the United States both under President Eisenhower and President Kennedy about the preservation of the integrity of Vietnam.
Martin: There was never any consideration given to pulling out?
Kennedy: No.
Martin: But the same time, no disposition to go in all . . .
@KookTartsBigFarts1 You insult your own intelligence, exposing yourself as are either: A: incredibly stupid, B: hopelessly gullible, C: woefully misinformed, D: completely brainwashed, or E: all of the preceding. Oswald never fired a shot that day & not a single piece of judicially-credible evidence exists to support a counter conclusion. Just like Thomas Arthur Vallee in Chicago, Oswald was a CIA patsy set to take the fall for a team of assassins trained in timed triangulated rifle volleys.
@WALRU11 friends, aides, and loyal retainers—or what Victor Navasky once called “honorary Kennedys.”[13] As Gary Wills further defined the term, “honorary Kennedys . . . without being fully admitted to the family [are] friends and allies [who] rotate loyally and lend their skills.”[14] And one of their most important contributions over the decades has been to adjust JFK in light of subsequent historical events, most prominently, the Vietnam war.
@JgarfbiHoover Do you EVER have an opinion of your own? You present yourself as rather a mindless dummy whose mouth flaps open to parrot the words of revisionist rightwing character assassin ventriloquists fulminating at length with absurd, unfounded, baseless idiotic claims that fail the test of objective historical scrutiny. Pathetic.
important because the introduction of ground combat troops was more than a year away, and neither elite nor mass opinion had turned against US intervention. In fact, the overweening concern in Washington was doing everything necessary to save the Saigon government, as it was teetering badly in the wake of President Ngo Dinh Diem’s November 1963 assassination. The clear thrust of RFK’s recollection was that if Lyndon Johnson failed to hold onto South
the internet is a wonderful invention. it allows a new generation to see what a wonderful human being bobby kennedy was..:).sadly it has a downside too....:( it permits two bit halfwits like 'kook' to spew their mindless filth. but thankfully people see nobodies like that poster for what they are..bobby will live on in peoples hearts and minds forever....long after nobodies like of kook have slithered back into the sewer he belongs in..hes so brave he has to cower behind some pathetic pseudonym
@davidleigh65 "what a wonderful human being bobby kennedy was"
You're just soft lefty Commy in the head ADMIT IT !
I GOT THE DIRT ON JFK/RFK Complicity in the downfall of America 300 Miles Long and 10 Miles Wide ! FROM AUTHORATATIVE CREDITIBLE HISTORIAN'S, ARCHIVIST AND CONSPIRACY AUTHORS WHO ARE ACTUALLY Quite Good (Ex: David Lifton 'Best Evidence') when it comes to debunking fellow CONspiracists to save their own lions share of the dwindling resources that CONspiracy relies upon to live.
@auther1046 i suppose you're one of those john bircher cranks who believes that ike was a communist too?....im sure you had a 'goldwater 64' bumper on your car!!!..JFK is widely regarded as one of the best presidents of all time....his brother bobby is similarly loved the world over too!! theres no point in you trying that tea party 'john bircher inspired 'commies everywhere' crap on here......because nobody is listening to you or interested in what racist bigots like you have to say on anything
@davidleigh65 "u're 1 who believes that ike was a commy"
I practically invented the campaign slogan "I Like Ike"
"had a 'goldwater 64' bumper on your car"
Y ? U sound like a JFK Do-Gooder who's 'Hatriotic' agenda is to cast aspersions against LBJ ? Get off the fence would u.
"RFK is similarly loved"
No doubt due to the revisionistic history that buried the many crimes of the Kennedy family because he was handsome quick witted 'Irish Mobster' like his brother eh? Get real dud.
@davidleigh65 "believes that ike was a communist too?...."
No I'm a historian.
* DDE was a 5 Star General (R) Anti-Communist Conservative Cold Warrior, when he spoke he sounded like Clark Gable.
* When he wrote his autobiography of his experiences in life & European Theater of Operations many thought because it was so well done it was ghost written by James Mitchner.
* Several creditible historians reviewed his writings and none of them had any suggestions for improvement.
@davidleigh65 "JFK is widely regarded as 1 of the best presidents of all time"
According to WHO YT? Provide citations from creditible historians?
Here's one : 'The Dark Side of Camelot' Hersh, Little Brown. 1997, defines JFK as "a lout, cad, boor, oaf, schemer, liar, blackmailer & a reckless gambler w/the nation's security, its integrity & its institutions. JFK was a man thoroughly out of his depth & wasn't just the Hoodlum Prince of Camelot, he was the incarnation of Sodom & Gomorrah"
@10Faenorr Even conservative Time magazine wrote a major article denouncing Hersh's hatchet job on JFK as groundless, biased, & largely fabricated, noting how Hersh went so far as to promote damaging information about JFK & Marilyn Monroe he knew to be forged & patently false. If your "credible" references are paid hacks like Hersh, you look like a complete idiot. FYI: all polls of historians ranking presidents since 1962 place JFK in the top 12 & popular polls place him 2nd-to-4th overall.
@10Faenorr Hersh's ridiculous trash job was condemned by virtually every critic who reviewed it. Hersh is a fraud, a paid literary assassin. He went so far as to use forged documents that he knew were false until exposure forced him to withdraw his claim. Like other authors given privileges by intellience services to establish his credibility (Posner & Bugliosi are two other examples), he then engages in posthumous assassination. Your limited intelligence resulted in your being duped.
@WALRU11 "Posner & Bugliosi are two other examples"
You're actually trying to sell us a fat factoid that Vince B. credibility wasn't established long ago when he prosecuted Manson & his gang of murderer's? Talk about a lack of credibility if you didn't stink of it you'd have none at all. "Your limited intelligence resulted in" you being a creditless squacking KGB sock puppet .... Oooops ! This CONspiracy is getting pretty big, it's aho stretched to the former USSR !
@10Faenorr FYI, ignoramus: Bugliosi was a plant, selected to sanitize the Manson case links to the CIA's MKULTRA prison "behavioral modification" of Charlie @ Terminal Island. Other intelligence-connected attorneys who worked on the Tate case were ex-Warren Commission’s Joe Ball & ex-Sirhan lawyer George Shibley who, pre-release, met with Charlie, after which Manson miraculously acquired $ & equipment to recruit his “family” for domestic terrorism psych destabilizing to aid passage of SB1.
@WALRU11 Vietnam.”[17] All these friends knew something, apparently, that no member of the president’s national security team—not Dean Rusk, Robert McNamara, McGeorge Bundy, or John McCone—ever knew. Moreover, Douglass glides over the fact that it would have been grossly immoral and cynical for a president to let scores or even hundreds of Americans die for no reason except to help ensure his re-election.
@JgarfbiHoover Stop reciting others' words & post your own. McAdams wants to damn JFK either way. It's false & absurd. JFK was not callous to any military casualty. He suffered his brother’s death & that of 2 crew members in WWII. Had he lived, neither "scores" nor "hundreds" of Americans would have died in Vietnam between late 1963 & Feb, '65 when his NSAM order finalized mass withdrawal of US military personnel. None were in combat capacity. JFK was extricating, not executing soldiers.
Martin: What if it did? Kennedy: Just have profound effects as far as our position throughout the world, and our position in a rather vital part of the world. Also, it would affect what happened in India, of course, which in turn has an effect on the Middle East. Just, it would have, everybody felt, a very adverse effect. It would have an effect on Indonesia, hundred million population. All of these countries
@WALRU11 unequivocally on Vietnam . . . . ”[18] But in fact, Mansfield recalled different things at different times. In 1969, he reported that “[Kennedy] was seriously contemplating a withdrawal of all US troops from Vietnam if he was elected to a second term.” In the wake of a 1970 Life magazine article, Mansfield responded with two letters, the first of which said he understood that Kennedy was considering “withdrawal” of troops, without mentioning “all” or anything about the extent.
@JgarfbiHoover You fail to grasp the poltical & temporal context: the 1964 election. He had to walk a fine line publicly, but knew from MacArthur & deGaulle that Vietnam was not winnable by French or American intruders. His distrust of the JCOS & CIA would not permit him to be duped or complicit in a faux-attack (ala LBJ & the Gulf of Tonkin.) JFK had NEVER committed combat troops to any theater of war & was pursuing diplomatic means to establish a coalition govt for total U.S. withdrawal.
Martin: . . . in an all out way as we went into Korea. We were trying to avoid a Korea, is that correct?
Kennedy: Yes, because I, everybody including General MacArthur felt that land conflict between our troops, white troops and Asian, would only lead to, end in disaster. So it was. . . . We went in as advisers, but to try to get the Vietnamese to fight themselves, because we couldn’t win the war for them. They had to win the war for themselves.
P-1 Is it really a wonder why Booby didn't want the Warren Report reopened? To reopen the WR would of :
* Exposed RFK complicity in lying about JFK's ailments (botched autopsy resulted) thus eliminating JFK's bid for the WH
* Exposed RFK : 'Mastermind of 'Op' Mongoose' Destroy Cuba & Assassin' Castro
* Exposed RFK criminal for trumped up charges on Hoffa/Beck & failure to prosecute Mafiosa supporting JFK's WH bid. Now U know Y it's good to have your brother as Attorney General .... eh ?
To All the young people who watch this video. Bobby Kennedy's values was in his fellow human beings. He saw that the heart of one can touch the hearts of many. There is something more. If you are moved by this video, then you can pick up his mantle because he left it to anyone willing to accept it and follow its calling. It is there, it is still alive, yours for the taking. Bobby Kennedy crossed our path to inspire us to greater vision and character. May you consider and take that step.
@KookTartsBigFarts1 Your "facts" are anything but. RFK never lied about JFK's ailments. Both merely concealed JFK's Addison's. A private matter. Neither JFK or RFK ever authorized any assassination plots against Castro - so said CIA chief Helms & Castro, himself. As for Hoffa, you're insane if you believe charges against Hoffa & Beck were "trumped up." Both were corrupt union officials who financed the mob from the Teamster's pension fund. You're another inventive rabid Kennedy-hater.
LIAR ! ANY AILMENT THAT IS LIFE THREATENING AND COULD POSSIBLY THREATEN THE PRESIDENT IN CARRYING OUT HIS SWORN ALLEGENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION IS A PUBLIC MATTER.
THE KENNEDY'S LIED ABOUT IT AND YOU LIE LIKE A DOG WITHOUT ANY CITATION'S TO PROVE YER HILLBILLY ASSERTION'S !
"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie; deliberate,
contrived and dishonest, but the myth ..... persistent, persuasive and
@auther1046 FYI, stupid: JFK's Addison's had not been "life-threatening" since he began taking cortisone injections in the late 1940s. As such, it did not affect or impede his performance as president & was thus, essentially a private matter. The hysterically sanctimonious screeds you issue from your unstable make-shift soapbox are inane, vapid, & ludicrous. Stop boring everyone with your anti-Kennedy rants. No one buys your bullsh*t.
@WALRU11@WALRU11 "Neither JFK or RFK ever authorized any assassination plots against Castro"
LIAR ! Wiki The Cuban Project. Operation Mongoose Memorandum
09/04/62 1st page of a meeting report (Real Document Shown) details the 'Smoking Gun' in JFK/RFK 'Conspiracy' to wreck Cuban Economy & Assassinate Castro w/ a 'Cover-Up' of transparency !
You react to the 'Truth' the way the 'Mummy' reacts to a bad batch of 'Tanna Leafs' "
@auther1046 FYI, "Mongoose" was an economic op designed to pressure Castro against spreading his revolution to Latin America. It was Helms & Harvey who tried to add Castro murder plots. Helms swore under oath that at no time did JFK or RFK ever authorize any of the CIA's assassination plots against Castro. In 1967, when LBJ tried to suggest your claim, RFK was outraged, stating, "KILL Castro?! I was the one who put an END to these plots!" He & JFK broke up their squads in FL & LA.
US DoD JCS ultimate objective? : A US military intervention in Cuba. They requested that the Sec of Def assign them responsibility, but AG RFK retained effective control. The CIA offered a $150,000 open contract on Castro. Samuel Halpern, the CIA executive in charge (Task Force W) sole purpose : assassinate Castro wrote JFK was obsessed about wanting Castro dead "for personal reasons because the family name was besmirched by the Bay of Pigs"
@WALRU11 "Helms swore at no time did JFK or RFK ever authorize any of the CIA's assassination plots against Castro"
The Project's 6 phases presented by counter-insurgency specialist AF Gen Lansdale on 02/20/62; it was overseen by AG RFK. JFK was briefed on the op's guidelines on 03/16/62. Lansdale outlined the program of political, psychological, military, sabotage & intelligence op's as well as assassination attempts on key political leaders. Plausible Denial by RFK/JFK.
@auther1046 Plausible Denial is, as a top Kennedy govt official told me when I interviewed him about the book's claims, "Bullshit" - & he was in a position to know. He was so angry, he came out of his chair, eyes flashing!) It's a revisionist "posthumous assassination" CIA defense pieced together largely on the basis of agency testimony & supplied docs, with specious reasoning, intended to indict JFK & RFK, both unable to defend themselves. The mob used the Castro plots to kill JFK? Please!
KGB file identifies only as a trusted contact. While Lane was not told the source of the money, the residency suspected that he might have guessed where it came from; it was also concerned that the secret subsidy might be discovered by the FBI"
* "The KGB correctly identified the Lane as the most talented of the 1st wave of CTer's researching the JFK assassin' The NY Residency"
Vasili Mitrokhin The Sword & the Shield The Mitrokhin Archive & the Secret History of the KGB pp 225-230
@auther1046 You gullible ignoramus. Stop bothering me with your asinine posts until you've read even 1/100th of the source material I have on JFK's murder. I am weary of blowhards like you who, having read Posner's fiction, or Bugliosi's patently false (& massively flawed) book + a few other rightwing revisionist texts, think they are experts. You know NOTHING. You haven't a clue. Spend 46 years on it. Interview eyewitnesses. Compile millions of documents, as I have. Then write to me.
@Walru11 Mark Lane Ex-Army Intelligence Officer & Dbl Agent was given the concession from the CIA to propagate a 'CIA GK Assassin' by a dis & mis-information campaign for the express purpose and in the hopes the KGB would think that their foe was all powerful. So powerful that it could even kill JFGay & get away with it.
NY Times 09/11/49
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The silly American public bought this 'Big Whopper', they needed an excuse to join the CPUSA & betray their country
@WALRU11 were anti-Communist in thrust and substance. Accordingly, Douglass has to fudge and equivocate constantly, as he tries to depict Kennedy as “trapped in the contradiction between the mandate of peace . . . and the continuing Cold War dogmas of his national security state.”[4] One particular trick Douglass uses is to conceal sources that show Kennedy to be a Cold War liberal. Douglass devotes page after page of analysis to Kennedy’s American Univ. commencement address
@auther1046 Halpern? Hilarious! All of these revisionist claims issue from CIA - the very agency that assassinated both JFK & RFK. JFK, who called Castro "the Simon Bolivar of Cuba," told Fidel in '63 that he sympathized with the revolution against Batista & was prepared to lift the embargo & recognize Cuba, based on certain terms. Castro reacted very positively. THIS, along with JFK's NSMs 55, 56, 57, & 263 sealed his fate. He was NOT going to war, seeking a world of tolerable diversity.
@KookTartsBigFarts1 The KGB did not finance the 1st CT books. That's pure invention on your part. RFK authorized wiretaps on MLK in order to protect him from Hoover's charges that a communist had infiltrated his inner circle. It had NOTHING to do with MLK's "love life," you blatant fabricator. RFK did in fact publicly contradict the LBJ Commission findings in 1968 & his silence before had NOTHING to do with JFK's private life, you moron. Your last charge re: B.O.P. is sheer insanity & lies.
@WALRU11 "The KGB did not finance the 1st CT books"
LIAR ! Book : The Mitrokhin Archive By Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, on the evidence supplied by Mitrokhin's transcribed versions of Top Secret KGB files the Soviet Union's KGB was principal in falsely connecting innocent ppl to the JFK Assassination & funding the NY Publishing House of M&M to the tune of $650,000 in 1963 monies
Why is it you react to the 'Truth' the same way a 'Werewolf' reacts to a 'Full Moon'" ? Just curious?
The Kennedy Family was too powerful.
colaBranch1 1 day ago
@colaBranch1 The people who killed them were too powerful.
DenOndeMister 17 hours ago
Robert F. Kennedy's hired bodyguard was following right behind him in the kitchen and shot him right through the neck from behind once Sirhan Sirhan began firing. And, yes, he was CIA...
brendancross 1 month ago
cIA KILLED tHe KENneDy's
MOXWELLDIAMOND 2 months ago
The Kennedy family. If I lost 2 brothers. to shootings. I would be crazy too. They were 2 people. That lost there lives. So Sad even after almost 50 years. A dead President. And a brave young man. That's how I feel!
hallie5309 2 months ago
Amazing if you think about it how nieve people were at that time. what only four or five years later after his brother was shot in an open limo he is standing up in an open car . He may as well put a gun to his own head.
montgomeryps 2 months ago
What is the name of the of the programme that this clip is from?
mrlkear07 2 months ago
That thing in the guys hands actually looked like a gun at first!
GTarcisius006 3 months ago
Very liberal with YOUR tax dollars. Not his own.
I lived in Calif when all those crazy deluded people were drooling all over them.
Throughout history Republicans have been portrayed the rich, greedy evil-doers.
But if the Kennedy's owned the factory you worked in, you would get LESS than minimum wage. Reason why they are the richest of all. Next to John Kerry.
Varianna12 3 months ago
bobby kennedy-clueless more like it. if his brother gave nus viet nam, wonder what mess he could have gotten us committed to.
rte66byhd 4 months ago
@Boelcke1913 you must get your history lessons from watching oliver stone movies.
rte66byhd 4 months ago
The Kennedys were the modern-day version of the Roman Gracchus (Gracchi) brothers, who both tried to reform Rome and both were assassinated for it by Rome's versions of the "insiders." History repeats itself. I have lived with that for over 40 years now and frankly, have quietly researched this whole sorry, nasty betrayal for about 48 years. Enough. I want my government (which I support) to finally do right by me and by you. I want the truth. Job 1 is for them to tell the people the truth.
Boelcke1919 4 months ago 2
Was the war in Vietnam unnecessary? Of course. If not, then how come my Reebok zig running shoes (I have 3 pair) all were made in Vietnam? If they are a threat to mankind, why do we trade with them?
Boelcke1919 4 months ago
When the Kennedys were willing to take on groups like Big Business, Big Oil, the CIA and the MAFIA, they were really fighting for common humanity. That is really why we still love them. They fought our fight for justice and a sense of fairness, mostly because the rest of us aren't strong enough. The CIA could and would squash any of us like a bug and so would Big Oil, but they had to take the Kennedys seriously. I truly hope they rot in Hell forever for killing them and I mean forever.
Boelcke1919 4 months ago
Only a true loser would hate Bobby Kennedy. Hey, you can disagree with his beliefs if you like, but never hate the man. He tried to do good and he tried to stop the war. A lot of families would not have lost their sons to an unwinnable war had he lived. The CIA got their nasty, unnecessary war and we all paid for it. Thanks for nothing.
Boelcke1919 4 months ago
I loved Bobby Kennedy and I never felt that way about any politician ever again. When the insiders killed the Kennedys, they robbed us of much of what was great, noble. decent and worth fighting for. I agree with Rose Kennedy "I shall never see his like (in this life) again."
Boelcke1919 4 months ago
RFK's is a life to be included in Profiles in Courage. A true hero.
sidrahsiddiqui 5 months ago
I remember this so well, I was doing campaign work for him in San Francisco, real work with other young students! The evening he was killed I was asleeep and my mom didn't wake me up and the next morning I was told the sad news...I really felt helpless, without hope!
68generation 5 months ago 2
@68generation Pressing the 'like' button on this which is ironic because after reading your post I felt nothing but sadness :-(
follownicholas 5 months ago
Bobby was a unique and great man. When was the last time a presidential candidate ever campaigned in a major inner-city?!
marcostar57 6 months ago
There will always be the miserable of this world. The 8 people who dislike this most heartwarming & inspiring video represent that percentage of losers!
TheAssasin2525 7 months ago
WHY DID 8 PEOPLE HATE THIS VIDEO??
JoeMur200 7 months ago
As a concerned American I feel like I have a right to know why the CIA killed John and Robert Kennedy. It is now almost fifty years later ... you know what, it is time to tell the truth.
Boelcke1919 8 months ago 20
@Boelcke1919 -amen to that brother
loyaldude10 7 months ago
@Boelcke1919 I agree 100% but I'm afraid we'll never be told the full truth -- but of course we can surmise.
marcostar57 6 months ago
@Boelcke1919- i would like to know too
Sgreenenov13 5 months ago
@Boelcke1919 The government and the media in lockstep refuse to help us find out the truth. Why? Because it was people in government who killed them both. These two were a force to be reckoned with. Fearless leaders, unafraid to stand up for what was right. Please watch JFK My Business Was Mankind, where he pledges his total support to the people and chastises big business for their greed.
TakeBackAmerica2012 4 months ago
@Boelcke1919 im in my 20's and want to know why. american people have a right to know
mohican19831 3 months ago
@Boelcke1919 honey if anyone had the power to kill Robert Kennedy it was J. Edgar Hoover not the CIA.
stayAU 2 months ago
The campaign by some to hate and even degrade the Kennedys only shows me how great they were (are). It is really something to engender that kind of hatred. In 1968 we got the evil Tricky Dicky instead of the kind Robert Kennedy.
Boelcke1919 8 months ago 8
what movie is this from?
yadig2012 8 months ago
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, he was the greatest President we never had. Especially after his dear brother Jack was killed so senselessly Bobby grew ever more intensely feeling and compassionate. He wanted nothing more than peace and harmony in the world, for those forgotten to be remembered and helped to become an equal part of society that they should always have been. He was loyal to a fault, determined, bold, and tough in so many ways, a real man. He is still missed.
rondunderfunk 8 months ago
I think JFK, RFK, and EMK all deserved a shot as president. All good men who did great things for the country.
sumskater999 10 months ago
I thought the guy holding the thing to bobby was holding a gun haha and i thought it was fake.
1yearyounger 11 months ago
we miss you Bobby =)
tweezee 1 year ago
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He would have made a great President way better than Johnson or any other its a shame they took from us a great man.
MrRanwolfe 1 year ago 12
@MrRanwolfe "its a shame they took from us a great man"
Who TF are 'THEY'? Did you mean 'HE'
~ Sirhan saw RFK as a threat to his return to his homeland of Palestine. He shot RFK because 2 wks prior silly headed RFK promised to replace the 50 Phantom jet fighters that Israel had lost in the just recent '6 Day War' with the Arabs
~ Next to the RFK news article pasted in Sirhan's notebook found by police he wrote "RFK Must Die"
Your thinly disguised 'Message of Hatred' failed
JgarfbiHoover 10 months ago
@MrRanwolfe "RFK a great President"?
* Criminal in lying about JFK's ailments (botched autopsy resulted)
* Criminal 'Op' Mongoose' Destroy Cuba & Assassinate Castro
* Criminal for trumped up charges on Hoffa/Beck & failure to prosecute Mafia supporting JFK's WH bid
* Criminal Conspiracy to hide JFK's womenizing, drug abuse, abuses of power
* Criminal in 'cover-up' of JFK's BoP's invasion failure as CIC & illegal CIA spying on citizens to stop WH leaks
This list is almost endless
JgarfbiHoover 10 months ago
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proferic 8 months ago
@proferic "Nothing u listed here was a violation of any law in the '60's. Nothing!"
Obstruction of Justice, Perjury, Conspiracy to Commit Illegal Acts Against the People of the US, Corruption of any number of laws, Wire Fraud, Volations of law and house rules stemming from illegal use of campaign funds,
Whew !
The list here is almost endless ! ,
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
@JgarfbiHoover Nope. "Conspiracy to Commit Illegal Acts Against the People of the U.S."??? That isn't even a law. Wire fraus=Nope. Violations of law and house rules from illegal use of campaign funds?? No. there was barely any laws regulating the use of campaign funds in the 60's. That didn't come about until Watergate. Sounds to me like your'e just (as per usual) just talking out of your ass about something you know nothing about.
proferic 8 months ago
@proferic Was that 'Irish Mobster' JFK continually violating the law ?
In the 1946 House of Representatives race, Joe Sr. spent $300,000 on his campaign in violation of law. JFK reported to the Massachusetts Secretary of State that there were no campaign contributions or expenditures.
"JFK's 1952 Senate seat was won by skullduggery" Reeves p.106
YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT !
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
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@JgarfbiHoover Skullduggery in't a crime. Nor are independent campaign expenditures. JFK, was not always aware of what daddy was doing in the back ground. No crime!
proferic 8 months ago
@proferic Mafia Upset w/JFK ! Particularly Jimmy Hoffa & Chicago/Louisiana families Giancana told Judith Campbell Exner, "Listen, honey, if it wasn't for me, your boyfriend wouldn't even be in the WH" JFK had sent 1/4M w/Exner to Giancana for the mob to get out the union vote and make corrupt unions contribute to JFK's campaign. Gen. Dynamics blackmailed JFK to give them the TFX fighter contract 6.5B dollars, the largest in history to that point, after bugging Exner's apartment.
ALL ILLEGAL !
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
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@JgarfbiHoover Everything you've written here is about JFK. We are arguing over RFK. Which, you barely seem to mention. And ordering a "limited autopsy" (which I highly dounbt), is not illegal. I'm not saying JFK or RFK were saints, they weren't at all. They were heavy duty power players, as is anyone who gets to that level of politics. Hiding JFK's addison's disease wasn't a crime. Jesus, you need to get a life.
proferic 8 months ago
@proferic JFK used the FBI to his personal advantage and to silence press critics. In early 1961 JFK planted family friend Carmine Bellino in the IRS with the title "special consultant to the president " & demanded that he have access to tax returns. They turned the IRS into a lending library. Quoting from the Wall Street Journal of 01/28/97 : "the Kennedys were far worse than Nixon in their manipulation of the IRS..."
VERY ILLEGAL ! ALL IRS INFO. IS ABOVE TOP SECRET !
Ooops !
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
@proferic JFK orders hand picked successor to Dulles, John McCone to form a "Plumbers Unit"
(Google 'CIA Family Jewels') Under his main henchman RFK to illegally spy on American's to stop White House leaks. They target Washingting Post reporters first ....
CIA CHARTER DESIGNED BY CONGRESS EXPRESSLY FORBIDS THE CIA TO ENGAGE IN ANY DOMESTIC SPYING ON US CITIZENS! THIS GOES WAY BEYOND ILLEGAL THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!
Now u know where Nixon learned all his 'Dirty Tricks' from eh?
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
@proferic JFK: 'Sexual Harassment' & Date Rape !
JFK did Fiddle and Faddle SS code names for 21 & 23 yr & staff members hired mostly for sex. JFK tested dangerous drugs on them w/out their knowledge by putting it in their drinks. WH intern Marion "Mimi" Beardsley whose married name is Fahnestock was 19 when JFK raped her (statutory rape - the age of consent was 21 in DC at the time). A powerful older man preying on vulnerable young women is what 'Sexual Harassment' is all about.
BUMP !
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
@proferic In the 1960 election campaign disclosure
~ JFK concealed his Addison's disease and even stated flatly to the press "I have never had Addison's disease" That was a lie, of course AND ILLEGAL
~ Now you know why RFK ordered a limited autopsy and it was botched he worried about only one thing JFK'S LEGACY!
~ AAMOF JFK's ailments were so bad his VD ALONE is responsible for 35% of all female infertility in the US today
The great president LBJ said JFK looked like "a spavined hunchback"
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
@proferic Anniversary As Cuba Remembers JFK'S TERRORIST 'Op Mongoose' !
50 yrs on JFK Do-Gooders won't talk about terrorist attack on the French ship 'La Coubre' in Havana Harbor leaving 100 dead & 200 wounded. JFK'S TERRORIST program exploded into the world's news as REVENGE for the Kennedy family name being besmirched by the Bay of Pigs ! 15 month's after the triumph of the Cuban Revolution till this day Cuban's are still asking : "Where is justice for this barbaric act by JFK"?
ILLEGAL !
JgarfbiHoover 8 months ago
proferic Indeed JFK and his main henchman RFK are guilty of the following :
Racketeeing ILLEGAL
Pergury ILLEGAL
Murder (MM) ILLEGAL
Assassination (Diem, Triquillio) ILLEGAL
Bribery ILLEGAL
Date Rape ILLEGAL
CIA Spying ILLEGAL
This list is practically endless !
cdddraftsman 8 months ago
@cdddraftsman thats just how all government does it Machiavelli style .
JoeMur200 8 months ago
@cdddraftsman does it make you feel important to lie? The JFK administration and RFK were the first to prosecute the Mafia and they did it with abandon going after the whole mob for racketeering and murder. So yes they were involved in Racketeering, but on the prosecution side. They never purjured themselves or murdered anyone or approved of ANY assassination nor bribed anyone or raped and they hated the CIA. Your full of it.
rocketstar 8 months ago
@rocketstar "going after the mob" JFK 'Racketeersman of the New Frontier' !
Q: What Was JFK's 'Anti-Racketeering Crusade' All About?
A: It Was Actually His Own Personal Protection Racket
~ Mafia who backed (R) Nixon for President Jimmy Hoffa & Dave Beck etc were hounded into prison on trumped up charges while
~ Mafia who backed (D) JFK for President Walter & Victor Reuther etc were allowed to commit crimes w/impunity Google Ralph de Toledano (Expert Witness on Mafia) for Hoffa Frame-Up
cdddraftsman 7 months ago
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proferic 8 months ago
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@JgarfbiHoover Nothing you listed here was a violation of any law in the '60's. Nothing!!!!
proferic 8 months ago
Bobby was an absolutely great man. But, liberalism was and is a failed ideology.
proferic 1 year ago
@proferic How so? Equal rights and freedom of religion sound pretty good to me
10trojan10 1 year ago
@10trojan10 They do to me as well. But the idea of using govt. to solve problems is a failed experiment.
proferic 1 year ago
@proferic FDR clearly proved you wrong. His GOVERNMENT's New Deal sure as shit took us out of the Great Depression and put the economy in the best state it's been since.
sumskater999 10 months ago
@sumskater999 Uh. . . . . .NO, Doofus!!! The U.S. got out of the Depression because of the massive spending by going on a wartime footing in the 1940's. WW II got us out of the Depression, not the New Deal. By the time the New Deal ended in the late 1930's (the last New Deal legislation was passed in 1937), the US economy had slid back into a recession. Read up on your history next time before spouting off.
proferic 10 months ago
@proferic Actually YOU ought to read history. When FDR took office, unemployment was 25% in 1933. In 1938, BEFORE WW2 started, it was 19%. In 1941, when we finally joined the war in DECEMBER, it was already 10%. Then through wartime effort AND the New Deal, it sunk to 2% in 1945. And the New Deal never ended; it still exists today. Only new New Deal legislation ended. And the recession was a temporary fallback, due to the fact that we were overcoming the biggest recession in our history.
sumskater999 10 months ago
@sumskater999 "In 1938, BEFORE WW2 started, it was 19%"
Actually you're both a little bit right. Kinda like being a little bit pregnant. The "1938 unemployment" reflects FDR's 'Arsenal of Democracy' policy which in historic terms is directly linked to the USG's gearing up for war AND WW2 ITSELF by putting us on a wartime footing by putting ppl to work making armaments. There was nothing happening to spark us out of the Great Depression except the comming war and everybody knew it at the time.
JgarfbiHoover 10 months ago
@proferic "WW II got us out of the Depression, not the New Deal"
~ The "New Deal" set the tone and cadence that recovery was on the way and gave the USG the moral authority, when it counted the most, that welded the Nation together after Dec. 7th.
~ Don't underestimate the moral boost that it had, right or wrong, helpful or hurtful, the ppl felt that the USG was finally trying to help irregardless of the actual impact upon the recovery
Sometimes just a helpful hand can cause miracles eh?
JgarfbiHoover 10 months ago
@WALRU11 I know you're secretely enjoying every word of .John's dismantling of Douglass' tribute to American's popular delusions. I refuse to believe you're not unless what some of my followers are right and you are "KGB Vermin".
Enjoy
Regards
Jgar
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover He hasn't even read Douglass' book. He's a mindless drone who is reciting, rote, the words of a rigthwing revisionist engaged in posthumous assassination of JFK. Douglass' book is a worthy contribution to more accurate comprehension of JFK's transitional presidency, but fails to adequately substantiate its claims as it would require several volumes of preceding deep history to document how the Dulles brothers, Nixon & Ike sold out this country to Neo-Nazis military corporatism.
WALRU11 1 year ago
Martin: It’s generally true all over the world, whether it’s in a shooting war or a different kind of a war. But the president was convinced that we had to keep, had to stay in there . . .
Kennedy: Yes.
Martin: . . . and couldn’t lose it.
Kennedy: Yes.
Martin: And if Vietnamese were about to lose it, would he propose to go in on land if he had to?
Kennedy: Well, we’d face that when we came to it.[21]
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@WALRU11 against Cuba that targeted manufacturing, electric, transportation, and oil facilities. Why? Because he “succumbed to Cold War pressures . . . ”[12] This depiction of a spineless chief executive is all the more jarring because Douglass obviously intended to produce a glowing portrait of Kennedy’s 1,000 days. Authors of assassination-related books that misuse
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover You're hideously clueless. You know NOTHING of John F. Kennedy. Nothing. Your post is another lazy ideological cut-&-paste from a rightwing revisionist tract. Read a book, moron, instead of pasting polemics from web site searches as you seek to discredit a president you know nothing about. You're an idiot.
WALRU11 1 year ago
troops at the rate of 1,000 or so per month after 1964. Finally, in an October 1999 discussion with Oberdorfer, Mansfield said that Kennedy planned to make perhaps “some minor withdrawals” after the election.[19] Which nuanced statement should be believed? Douglass uses only the one he finds attractive. Besides illustrating the vagaries of memory, it would seem more than likely that Kennedy—knowing
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@WALRU11 the pressures of McNamara, [Maxwell] Taylor and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and approved a criminal action.” Michael Forrestal, an NSC aide, is quoted as saying, “I believe [Kennedy’s] main train of thinking was that you cannot say no to your military advisers all the time.”[11]
•On June 19, 1963, Kennedy approved a CIA-directed sabotage program
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover Yet another of your useless cut & paste passages, you spineless cretin. Before you post again, try reading, studying, THINKING! But of course that's too taxing for your feeble mind. You bore me, you mental toad.
WALRU11 1 year ago
Then, in a second letter, Mansfield denied that Kennedy “even mentioned the thought” of the 1964 presidential election. Subsequently, in 1975, Mansfield wrote to a professor and said that Kennedy had resolved “to withdraw our forces from Vietnam.” Yet, in a 1989 letter to another author, Mansfield wrote that Kennedy only planned to withdraw “some troops” following the ’64 election. In a June 1998 interview with his biographer, Don Oberdorfer, Mansfield stated that Kennedy planned to withdraw
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
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@JgarfbiHoover Stop wasting Youtube space & everyone's time by cutting & pasting unoriginal disinformation.
I regard your posts as useless spam. They are from McAdams' plethora of lies, distortions, & perversions of the public record. I am done with you as you've proven yourself to be a brainless sycophant to rightwing revisionists. Goodbye.
WALRU11 1 year ago
WALRU11
Stay off the Internet asshole or I'll release the files on you being a paid 'KGB VERMIN' !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@Walru11 : CHARLES BREHM "Mark Lane takes very great liberties w/adding to my quotes. I never said that any shot came from the GK like I was quoted. Lane would like me to have positively identified what I saw fly o/here as skull.... although I told him I could not identify it . I did not examine it .. So he has added his interpretations to what I said & consequently that's where the story comes from. No shot came from up the Grassy Knoll at any time during the whole fiasco that afternoon"
auther1046 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "officially the CIA was part of "the JFK admin."
You'll never make a historian or a good writer. The CIA is an independent agency from the USG, it's the smallest, least well funded of the 16 known Intellegence agency's w/an additional 6 thought to act in complete secrecy, W/a $50B/Yr. budjet, all under the Pentagon's control, it's used as a whipping post to deflect attention away from the others by writers like you who haven't the foggiest idea about what you're talking about.
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 What planet are you living on? You're absurdly wrong. The CIA is NOT "an independent agency from the US govt." It was instituted as part of the Executive branch in 1947 under the NSA Act. Nor is it the least funded of US intelligence. FYI: most of its funding is covert (hidden in other appropriation bills) & highly classified. Nor is it under Pentagon control at all. What an asinine claim! Your grasp of govt is not even tenuous at best. Your statements are ludicrous.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11
Parallel Narratives .... JFK and the Unspeakable is structured so that it develops two parallel but supposedly complementary narratives: Kennedy’s statements and actions regarding Vietnam (in public, private, and in policy-making circles), and, simultaneously, the machinations of those who are conspiring to kill Kennedy. Both story lines are chock full of problems and cannot withstand elementary scrutiny. Long before Kennedy ever arrives in Dallas, Texas, and the strands finally come
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 It's obvious from your lunatic posts that your worthless opinion derives from a total lack of research & analysis beyond a few revisionist texts & cruising web sites that support your bias. JFK & the Unspeakable doesn't develop along 2 parallel narratives, but chronicles JFK's path toward peace & internal opposition to it. Nor is it "chock full of problems & cannot withstand elementary scrutiny." Rather, as your posts reveal, it is you who is incapable of even elementary scrutiny.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 •In 1962, Kennedy decided to send military and CIA advisers into Laos and enlist Hmong tribesmen to resist Communism. By doing so, Douglass declares, JFK was “working within Cold War assumptions and playing into the hands of his own worst enemy, the CIA.”[10]
•In October 1962, JFK approved a plan to destroy crops in South Vietnam with herbicides, for the purpose of denying food to the Viet Cong. As Douglass puts it, “Kennedy had yielded to the
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "Lane, ripped the govt's lies apart"
2 honest liberal historians on Lane's 'Rush to Judgment'
"Provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry, with in it's scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes are100's of errors. Quotes have been quietly changed in over 200 instances from doc. versions, important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to
mislead"
THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK
Historians D Guth & D Wrone (Is a CTer)
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 You say "Liberals" criticized of Lane's work, as if the left was going to defend it! Please! You don;t get it, do you? This was a COUP. As for "100s of errors" - that's laughable. Have you read Rush to Judgment? Point out the errors. They cite "quotes quietly changed from doc. versions." Duh! Because witnesses who gave them to the Commission were shocked to find the official report had altered their testimony. Lane interviewed them & reported their accurate statements.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 P1 "Duh! Because witnesses who gave them to the WC were shocked to find the official report had altered their testimony"
HAHAHAHA !
AND YET THE MOST DAMAGING TESTIMONY OF ALL CONCERNING A GRASSY KNOLL ASSASSIN WITNESS JEAN HILL : "PUFF OF SMOKE" "JR RUNNING ACROSS DP INFEILD" "FBI CONFISCATED MY CAMERA" WENT UNOPPOSED BY COUNTER TESTIMONY & WAS PRINTED ACCURATELY AND LEFT IN THE REPORT ? WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT ? U'RE JUST SILLY HEADED ! "Lane interviewed them" UNSWORN TESTIMONY
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 FYI: I've owned & read all 26 volumes since 1964 & have Lane's book & a library of eyewitness reports & other sources sufficient to overfill your living room. Hill's was not "the most damaging testimony" - just one of the vast majority (67+%) of eyewitnesses who reported shots from behind the picket fence. Key eyewitnesses were ignored, including Ed Hoffman & Gordon Arnold. Of those whose testimoney was taken, ala Julia Ann Mercer, it was glaringly altered to support the govt lie.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 analysis of the facts. Douglass wears his politics on his sleeve. He is a Catholic “peace activist” and disciple of Thomas Merton, whose observations infuse the book. Self-styled activists like Douglass have a long history of being opposed to the use of military power by the United States, although they don’t seem to mind as much when military power is used by America’s adversaries. And while they employ religious rhetoric to justify and rationalize their unilateral pacifism, their
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 Douglass readily admits his pacifism. It doesn't automatically nullify his account. Nor does he condone military power used by America's adversaries as you wrongly claim. He is not duplicitous or an apologist for militarists of any stripe. He is an author & historian whose analysis of the early 1960s chronicles the internal battle between a leader seeking peace & opponents entrenched in Cold War jingoistic thinking, with the result that a coup ensued that removed their obstacle.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 Cronkite, during a nationally-televised interview in September 1963, that it would be a great mistake for America to withdraw from Vietnam. And Douglass reluctantly concedes that the president told NBC’s Chet Huntley and David Brinkley, in another nationally-televised interview a week later, that “I think we should stay [in Vietnam]. We should use our influence in as effective a way as we can, but we should not withdraw.”[7] But then Douglass breezily dismisses both public statements
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
@KookTartsBigFarts1 "Stay" meant a much scaled-down advisory capacity, as JFK had already ORDERED withdrawal of troops and stated both publicly and privately his total opposition to commission of any combat capacity American troops. Review the interview. He clearly states, "in the final analysis it is THEIR war, and THEY have to fight it." Not Americans. The South Vietnamese. No equivocation. Stop with your feeble attempts to twist, revise, & pervert history. You're wrong. You've lost.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 P2
Vasili Mitrokhin defected to UK w/30,000 classified KGB files relating to propaganda & JFK assassination
* "The KGB was finding Lane’s work so useful it was secretly underwriting his travel in the amount of $12,500"
* "Though the report [WR] was flawed its main conclusions are probably accurate"
* "The NY residency sent him $1,500 to help finance his research through the intermediary of a close friend whom Lane's (con't)
I CAN SEE IT TAKES A COMMY TO EXPOSE A LEFTY COMMY EH?
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 Mitrokhin? Please! The CIA rejected his files as fake. Only after Stone's film came out, causing mass public outcry for renewed govt disclosure of CIA involvement in the JFK killing, did they hook up with MI5 "court historian" Chris Andrews to purport these & other outrageous Mitrokhin claims - all neatly packaged to counter critics' revelations & support the Johnson Report. Interestingly, all other declassified KGB files contradict these MI5/CIA released Mitrokhin claims.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@Walru11 JFK Assassin' Mark Lane complicite in 900 deaths !
In 78' Jim Jones hired Lawyer Mark Lane to make the case of a "Grand Conspiracy" by intelligence agencies against the Peoples Temple. Lane spoke to the residents of Jonestown, providing support for Jones' theories & held press conferences saying "none of the charges" against the Temple "are true" & said they should stay , he was paid $6k/mo. for such theories.
Later 900 ppl died after taking cyanide laced 'Kool-Aid' at gunpoint
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 Once more you are completely misinformed. Jonestown was not a mass suicide & the people there did not "drink the Kool-aid." They were assassinated, along with Rep. Leo Ryan who had legislation pending mandating CIA submision to Congress of all covert ops for review & approval. As the Guyana coroner reported, victims were slaughtered by gunfire, some having been hunted down in the woods before being shot. (Besides, it wasn't Kool-Aid. it was "Flavor-Aid.) You know NOTHING.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 and the president’s admonition in this speech that “our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children’s future. And we are all mortal.” Coming eight months after the Cuban missile crisis, the address was an inspiring call for keeping the peace in the hair-trigger nuclear age. But Douglass conspicuously fails to mention some other remarks Kennedy made in the same breath.
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
Mongoose was led by Edward Lansdale in the Def Dept & William King Harvey at the CIA. Lansdale chosen due to his experience with counter-insurgency in the Philippines during the Huk Rebellion, Samuel Halpern, a CIA co-organizer, conveyed the breadth of involvement: “CIA & the US Army and military forces and Department of Commerce, and Immigration, Treasury, God knows who else — everybody was in Mongoose. It was a government-wide op run out of RFK's office.
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 Mongoose was a '61-'62 effort by the Kennedys to force Castro's focus onto domestic (destabilized) woes. By '63, following the CMC, JFK & RFK were actually dispatching SS & FBI to break up Mongoose & other anti-Castro ops, while back-channel negotiating with Castro for terms to end the embargo in exchange for his not exporting revolution. Castro & JFK were reaching agreement when the CIA killed JFK. Landsdale, Harvey & Halpern, all CIA, hated the Kennedys with a purple passion.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "By '63, following the CMC, JFK & RFK were actually dispatching SS & FBI to break up Mongoose"
NONSENSE NO CITATIONS NOT BELIEVABLE ! MINE ARE ALL FROM WIKIPEDIA WITH HEAVY CITATIONS FROM THOSE WHO WOULD KNOW !
Wiki The Cuban Project. Operation Mongoose Memorandum
09/04/62 1st pg of a meeting (Real Document Shown) details the 'Smoking Gun' in JFK/RFK 'Conspiracy' to wreck Cuban Economy & Assassinate Castro w/ a 'Cover-Up' of transparency RFK COMPLAINING OF NOT ENOUGH TERRORISM
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 You cite "Wikipedia" as your ultimate source? You pathetic fool. Such online collective "history" can post anything & cite any source, credible or not. Admit it: you've never done an hour of independent investigative research on JFK's killing. never interviewed a single eyewitness, probably never even traveled to Dallas, New Orleans, Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, Tampa, or Washington D.C. You're an "armchair" sleuth, citing selective works that conform to your ideological polemics.
WALRU11 1 year ago
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 You're all over the board - first, claiming Lane is a commie financed by the KGB. Now you have him working for the CIA as a disinformation asset against the KGB, although Lane's published works finger the CIA as complicit in the JFK, MLKjr., & Jonestown slaughters. You have no critical thinking ability whatsoever. You mindlessly reiterate online blogs & selective out-of-context quotes, absent any comprehension of the case & historic characters. You're a simpleton & charlatan.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 together, the book ceases to be non-fiction and enters the realm of a self-indulgent political fantasy.The first narrative tries to portray Kennedy as a politician who started out a Cold Warrior, but broke through to a “deeper, more universal humanity” during his brief time in office.[3] This is not as easy to pull off as it might sound, because Douglass knows full well that many of Kennedy’s statements, as late as the morning of his death,
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "the KGB"
From Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archive and the Secret History of the KGB, pp. 225-230:
The WC, appointed by President LBJ to investigate JFK's assassination, reported in September 1964 that it had found "very persuasive" evidence that Oswald had acted alone and none of a conspiracy. Though the report was flawed, its main conclusions are probably accurate.
EVEN THE FKG KGB ADMITTED IT !
WTF'S YOUR PROBLEM ?
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
@KookTartsBigFarts1 "EVEN THE FKG KGB ADMITTED IT ,WTF'S YOUR PROBLEM ?"
You're right KTBF's the Wallarooo I think is holding out for a raise. Somebody better tell em that the Cold War & Liberism are deader than that 'Irish Mobster' he fawns & gushes over so profusely. Since the Soviets are trying to throw off the yoke of there former self, maybe they'd pay him to STFU & Stand Down?
10Faenorr 1 year ago
@10Faenorr Fae, you & BigFarts are doubtless mental Siamese twins sharing the same defective brain whose intellectual output isn't enough to measure double-digits on a Stanford-Binet test. As evidenced in your hideous notion of "Liberism" + your laughable belief in "Soviets" (“trying to throw off the yoke of there (sic) former selves”), it is advised that you try reading books instead of simply wiping your ass with the pages inside that fetid outhouse you inhabit, you moronic near-illiterate.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 Douglass approvingly cites Kenny O’Donnell’s suspect claim that Kennedy was going to get out of Vietnam as soon as he won the 1964 election.[15] Douglass quotes an “old friend” of Kennedy, Washington columnist Charles Bartlett, as having been told by Kennedy that “We don’t have a prayer of staying in Vietnam.”[16] JFK also supposedly told an “old friend” and neighbor, Larry Newman, that “The first thing I [will] do when I’m re-elected . . . I’m going to get the Americans out of
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover Thank you for reaffirming the fact of JFK's publicly and privately stated committment to withdraw U.S. troops from Vietnam. You're finally coming around to the realization that peace was his pursuit.
WALRU11 1 year ago
Vietnam, he would be diverging from JFK’s true policy.
Kennedy: [The president] had a strong, overwhelming reason for being in Vietnam and that we should win the war in Vietnam.
Martin: What was the overwhelming reason?
Kennedy: Just the loss of all of Southeast Asia if you lost Vietnam. I think everybody was quite clear that the rest of Southeast Asia would fall.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@WALRU11 Another private source Douglass misuses is former Senator Mike Mansfield (D-Montana), the majority leader during the Kennedy years. Unlike “honorary Kennedys,” Mansfield had an impeccable reputation for being honest and no motive to burnish JFK’s reputation posthumously. What he recollected about Kennedy’s Vietnam policy must be taken seriously. And Douglass enthusiastically quotes Mansfield as saying, “there is no doubt that [JFK] had shifted definitely and
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover Unlike you, reading revisionist authors seeking to advance their ideological agenda, I personally spoke with several highly placed administration officials with whom JFK discussed his plans for VIetnam, & to a man, they affirmed not only his unequivocal commitment to oppose direct U.S. military combat status in Vietnam & reduction of U.S. military advisors there, but conversion of S.V. defense to its own troops for a phased withdrawal of virtually all U.S. military personnel.
WALRU11 1 year ago
would be affected by the fall of Vietnam to the Communists, particularly as we had made such a fuss in the United States both under President Eisenhower and President Kennedy about the preservation of the integrity of Vietnam.
Martin: There was never any consideration given to pulling out?
Kennedy: No.
Martin: But the same time, no disposition to go in all . . .
Kennedy: No . . .
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@KookTartsBigFarts1 You insult your own intelligence, exposing yourself as are either: A: incredibly stupid, B: hopelessly gullible, C: woefully misinformed, D: completely brainwashed, or E: all of the preceding. Oswald never fired a shot that day & not a single piece of judicially-credible evidence exists to support a counter conclusion. Just like Thomas Arthur Vallee in Chicago, Oswald was a CIA patsy set to take the fall for a team of assassins trained in timed triangulated rifle volleys.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 friends, aides, and loyal retainers—or what Victor Navasky once called “honorary Kennedys.”[13] As Gary Wills further defined the term, “honorary Kennedys . . . without being fully admitted to the family [are] friends and allies [who] rotate loyally and lend their skills.”[14] And one of their most important contributions over the decades has been to adjust JFK in light of subsequent historical events, most prominently, the Vietnam war.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover Do you EVER have an opinion of your own? You present yourself as rather a mindless dummy whose mouth flaps open to parrot the words of revisionist rightwing character assassin ventriloquists fulminating at length with absurd, unfounded, baseless idiotic claims that fail the test of objective historical scrutiny. Pathetic.
WALRU11 1 year ago
important because the introduction of ground combat troops was more than a year away, and neither elite nor mass opinion had turned against US intervention. In fact, the overweening concern in Washington was doing everything necessary to save the Saigon government, as it was teetering badly in the wake of President Ngo Dinh Diem’s November 1963 assassination. The clear thrust of RFK’s recollection was that if Lyndon Johnson failed to hold onto South
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
No need to the afraid of The People. It wasn't The People that killed his brother or that killed King or that would soon kill him.
grandmachristine42 1 year ago
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@grandmachristine42 "No need to the afraid of The Ppl"
* Do I have to remind grandma that at any one time there are 300,000 mentally disturbed ppl/sheeple on the streets?
* Of these ppl 30,000 are possible violent offenders?
* Of these 3,000 will commit some act of violence, mostly small time?
* Of these 300 will commit an act of violence big time?
* Of these 30 will make some sort of attempt on a presidents life?
* Of these 3 will will come close?
* Of these .3 will be successful?
auther1046 1 year ago
the internet is a wonderful invention. it allows a new generation to see what a wonderful human being bobby kennedy was..:).sadly it has a downside too....:( it permits two bit halfwits like 'kook' to spew their mindless filth. but thankfully people see nobodies like that poster for what they are..bobby will live on in peoples hearts and minds forever....long after nobodies like of kook have slithered back into the sewer he belongs in..hes so brave he has to cower behind some pathetic pseudonym
davidleigh65 1 year ago
@davidleigh65 "what a wonderful human being bobby kennedy was"
You're just soft lefty Commy in the head ADMIT IT !
I GOT THE DIRT ON JFK/RFK Complicity in the downfall of America 300 Miles Long and 10 Miles Wide ! FROM AUTHORATATIVE CREDITIBLE HISTORIAN'S, ARCHIVIST AND CONSPIRACY AUTHORS WHO ARE ACTUALLY Quite Good (Ex: David Lifton 'Best Evidence') when it comes to debunking fellow CONspiracists to save their own lions share of the dwindling resources that CONspiracy relies upon to live.
auther1046 1 year ago 2
@auther1046 i suppose you're one of those john bircher cranks who believes that ike was a communist too?....im sure you had a 'goldwater 64' bumper on your car!!!..JFK is widely regarded as one of the best presidents of all time....his brother bobby is similarly loved the world over too!! theres no point in you trying that tea party 'john bircher inspired 'commies everywhere' crap on here......because nobody is listening to you or interested in what racist bigots like you have to say on anything
davidleigh65 1 year ago
@davidleigh65 "u're 1 who believes that ike was a commy"
I practically invented the campaign slogan "I Like Ike"
"had a 'goldwater 64' bumper on your car"
Y ? U sound like a JFK Do-Gooder who's 'Hatriotic' agenda is to cast aspersions against LBJ ? Get off the fence would u.
"RFK is similarly loved"
No doubt due to the revisionistic history that buried the many crimes of the Kennedy family because he was handsome quick witted 'Irish Mobster' like his brother eh? Get real dud.
auther1046 1 year ago 2
@davidleigh65 "believes that ike was a communist too?...."
No I'm a historian.
* DDE was a 5 Star General (R) Anti-Communist Conservative Cold Warrior, when he spoke he sounded like Clark Gable.
* When he wrote his autobiography of his experiences in life & European Theater of Operations many thought because it was so well done it was ghost written by James Mitchner.
* Several creditible historians reviewed his writings and none of them had any suggestions for improvement.
10Faenorr 1 year ago 6
@davidleigh65 "JFK is widely regarded as 1 of the best presidents of all time"
According to WHO YT? Provide citations from creditible historians?
Here's one : 'The Dark Side of Camelot' Hersh, Little Brown. 1997, defines JFK as "a lout, cad, boor, oaf, schemer, liar, blackmailer & a reckless gambler w/the nation's security, its integrity & its institutions. JFK was a man thoroughly out of his depth & wasn't just the Hoodlum Prince of Camelot, he was the incarnation of Sodom & Gomorrah"
10Faenorr 1 year ago 5
@10Faenorr Even conservative Time magazine wrote a major article denouncing Hersh's hatchet job on JFK as groundless, biased, & largely fabricated, noting how Hersh went so far as to promote damaging information about JFK & Marilyn Monroe he knew to be forged & patently false. If your "credible" references are paid hacks like Hersh, you look like a complete idiot. FYI: all polls of historians ranking presidents since 1962 place JFK in the top 12 & popular polls place him 2nd-to-4th overall.
WALRU11 1 year ago
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@WALRU11 "information about JFK & Marilyn Monroe he knew to be forged & patently false"
Sorry Bud but Jgar had the room wire tapped and they got every last grunt of the 20 second ordeal. For MM that is.
auther1046 1 year ago
@10Faenorr Hersh's ridiculous trash job was condemned by virtually every critic who reviewed it. Hersh is a fraud, a paid literary assassin. He went so far as to use forged documents that he knew were false until exposure forced him to withdraw his claim. Like other authors given privileges by intellience services to establish his credibility (Posner & Bugliosi are two other examples), he then engages in posthumous assassination. Your limited intelligence resulted in your being duped.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "Posner & Bugliosi are two other examples"
You're actually trying to sell us a fat factoid that Vince B. credibility wasn't established long ago when he prosecuted Manson & his gang of murderer's? Talk about a lack of credibility if you didn't stink of it you'd have none at all. "Your limited intelligence resulted in" you being a creditless squacking KGB sock puppet .... Oooops ! This CONspiracy is getting pretty big, it's aho stretched to the former USSR !
10Faenorr 1 year ago
@10Faenorr FYI, ignoramus: Bugliosi was a plant, selected to sanitize the Manson case links to the CIA's MKULTRA prison "behavioral modification" of Charlie @ Terminal Island. Other intelligence-connected attorneys who worked on the Tate case were ex-Warren Commission’s Joe Ball & ex-Sirhan lawyer George Shibley who, pre-release, met with Charlie, after which Manson miraculously acquired $ & equipment to recruit his “family” for domestic terrorism psych destabilizing to aid passage of SB1.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 Vietnam.”[17] All these friends knew something, apparently, that no member of the president’s national security team—not Dean Rusk, Robert McNamara, McGeorge Bundy, or John McCone—ever knew. Moreover, Douglass glides over the fact that it would have been grossly immoral and cynical for a president to let scores or even hundreds of Americans die for no reason except to help ensure his re-election.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover Stop reciting others' words & post your own. McAdams wants to damn JFK either way. It's false & absurd. JFK was not callous to any military casualty. He suffered his brother’s death & that of 2 crew members in WWII. Had he lived, neither "scores" nor "hundreds" of Americans would have died in Vietnam between late 1963 & Feb, '65 when his NSAM order finalized mass withdrawal of US military personnel. None were in combat capacity. JFK was extricating, not executing soldiers.
WALRU11 1 year ago
Martin: What if it did? Kennedy: Just have profound effects as far as our position throughout the world, and our position in a rather vital part of the world. Also, it would affect what happened in India, of course, which in turn has an effect on the Middle East. Just, it would have, everybody felt, a very adverse effect. It would have an effect on Indonesia, hundred million population. All of these countries
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@WALRU11 unequivocally on Vietnam . . . . ”[18] But in fact, Mansfield recalled different things at different times. In 1969, he reported that “[Kennedy] was seriously contemplating a withdrawal of all US troops from Vietnam if he was elected to a second term.” In the wake of a 1970 Life magazine article, Mansfield responded with two letters, the first of which said he understood that Kennedy was considering “withdrawal” of troops, without mentioning “all” or anything about the extent.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover You fail to grasp the poltical & temporal context: the 1964 election. He had to walk a fine line publicly, but knew from MacArthur & deGaulle that Vietnam was not winnable by French or American intruders. His distrust of the JCOS & CIA would not permit him to be duped or complicit in a faux-attack (ala LBJ & the Gulf of Tonkin.) JFK had NEVER committed combat troops to any theater of war & was pursuing diplomatic means to establish a coalition govt for total U.S. withdrawal.
WALRU11 1 year ago
Martin: . . . in an all out way as we went into Korea. We were trying to avoid a Korea, is that correct?
Kennedy: Yes, because I, everybody including General MacArthur felt that land conflict between our troops, white troops and Asian, would only lead to, end in disaster. So it was. . . . We went in as advisers, but to try to get the Vietnamese to fight themselves, because we couldn’t win the war for them. They had to win the war for themselves.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
Saddens me as well. Much love to all of the Kennedy's
Tupac4lyfe44440 1 year ago
He was AWESOME! I was there!
AmericanMale1953 1 year ago
P-1 Is it really a wonder why Booby didn't want the Warren Report reopened? To reopen the WR would of :
* Exposed RFK complicity in lying about JFK's ailments (botched autopsy resulted) thus eliminating JFK's bid for the WH
* Exposed RFK : 'Mastermind of 'Op' Mongoose' Destroy Cuba & Assassin' Castro
* Exposed RFK criminal for trumped up charges on Hoffa/Beck & failure to prosecute Mafiosa supporting JFK's WH bid. Now U know Y it's good to have your brother as Attorney General .... eh ?
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
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Obama should watch this video.
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
To All the young people who watch this video. Bobby Kennedy's values was in his fellow human beings. He saw that the heart of one can touch the hearts of many. There is something more. If you are moved by this video, then you can pick up his mantle because he left it to anyone willing to accept it and follow its calling. It is there, it is still alive, yours for the taking. Bobby Kennedy crossed our path to inspire us to greater vision and character. May you consider and take that step.
GodsCountryNetwork 1 year ago
2) Cont'd
* Exposed RFK failure to support WR (KGB funded 1st CT books) better to recapture Camelot's crown
* Exposed RFK complicite eavesdropping Rev. MLK (married) & his extra-curricular 'Love Life' for decemination in the press
* Exposed RFK complicite in 'conspiracy' to hide JFK's womenizing, drug abuse, abuses of power (IRS/FBI/SS/DOJ/Covert Assassin.'s)
* Exposed RFK complicite in 'cover-up' of JFK's BoP's failure as CIC & illegal CIA spying on citizens to stop WH leaks.
Oooops !
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
@KookTartsBigFarts1 Your "facts" are anything but. RFK never lied about JFK's ailments. Both merely concealed JFK's Addison's. A private matter. Neither JFK or RFK ever authorized any assassination plots against Castro - so said CIA chief Helms & Castro, himself. As for Hoffa, you're insane if you believe charges against Hoffa & Beck were "trumped up." Both were corrupt union officials who financed the mob from the Teamster's pension fund. You're another inventive rabid Kennedy-hater.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "JFK's Addison's. A private matter"
LIAR ! ANY AILMENT THAT IS LIFE THREATENING AND COULD POSSIBLY THREATEN THE PRESIDENT IN CARRYING OUT HIS SWORN ALLEGENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION IS A PUBLIC MATTER.
THE KENNEDY'S LIED ABOUT IT AND YOU LIE LIKE A DOG WITHOUT ANY CITATION'S TO PROVE YER HILLBILLY ASSERTION'S !
"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie; deliberate,
contrived and dishonest, but the myth ..... persistent, persuasive and
unrealistic"
JFK
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 FYI, stupid: JFK's Addison's had not been "life-threatening" since he began taking cortisone injections in the late 1940s. As such, it did not affect or impede his performance as president & was thus, essentially a private matter. The hysterically sanctimonious screeds you issue from your unstable make-shift soapbox are inane, vapid, & ludicrous. Stop boring everyone with your anti-Kennedy rants. No one buys your bullsh*t.
WALRU11 1 year ago
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auther1046 1 year ago
@WALRU11 @WALRU11 "Neither JFK or RFK ever authorized any assassination plots against Castro"
LIAR ! Wiki The Cuban Project. Operation Mongoose Memorandum
09/04/62 1st page of a meeting report (Real Document Shown) details the 'Smoking Gun' in JFK/RFK 'Conspiracy' to wreck Cuban Economy & Assassinate Castro w/ a 'Cover-Up' of transparency !
You react to the 'Truth' the way the 'Mummy' reacts to a bad batch of 'Tanna Leafs' "
Please explain
auther1046 1 year ago 2
@auther1046 FYI, "Mongoose" was an economic op designed to pressure Castro against spreading his revolution to Latin America. It was Helms & Harvey who tried to add Castro murder plots. Helms swore under oath that at no time did JFK or RFK ever authorize any of the CIA's assassination plots against Castro. In 1967, when LBJ tried to suggest your claim, RFK was outraged, stating, "KILL Castro?! I was the one who put an END to these plots!" He & JFK broke up their squads in FL & LA.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "I put an END to these plots!"
US DoD JCS ultimate objective? : A US military intervention in Cuba. They requested that the Sec of Def assign them responsibility, but AG RFK retained effective control. The CIA offered a $150,000 open contract on Castro. Samuel Halpern, the CIA executive in charge (Task Force W) sole purpose : assassinate Castro wrote JFK was obsessed about wanting Castro dead "for personal reasons because the family name was besmirched by the Bay of Pigs"
auther1046 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "Helms swore at no time did JFK or RFK ever authorize any of the CIA's assassination plots against Castro"
The Project's 6 phases presented by counter-insurgency specialist AF Gen Lansdale on 02/20/62; it was overseen by AG RFK. JFK was briefed on the op's guidelines on 03/16/62. Lansdale outlined the program of political, psychological, military, sabotage & intelligence op's as well as assassination attempts on key political leaders. Plausible Denial by RFK/JFK.
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 Plausible Denial is, as a top Kennedy govt official told me when I interviewed him about the book's claims, "Bullshit" - & he was in a position to know. He was so angry, he came out of his chair, eyes flashing!) It's a revisionist "posthumous assassination" CIA defense pieced together largely on the basis of agency testimony & supplied docs, with specious reasoning, intended to indict JFK & RFK, both unable to defend themselves. The mob used the Castro plots to kill JFK? Please!
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 P2 "As for "100s of errors" - that's laughable"
AND OUTRIGHT FALSIFICATION BY LANE OF THE INTERVIEWS OF WITNESSES Markham, Brehm & Others !
The Harvard Hebrew Jew York City Hoaxers Series # 1 Mark Lane
Mock Trial in UK : Helen Markham (HM) vs Mark Lane
Q's by Vince B. (VB)
VB-- "Did you say that the man you saw kill DPD Tippit had "bushy hair?"
HM -- "No, sir...I did not say those things."
VB-- "Did you identify the killer as a man named LHO?"
HM -- "Yes, sir. I did."
auther1046 1 year ago
@WALRU11 P3
KGB file identifies only as a trusted contact. While Lane was not told the source of the money, the residency suspected that he might have guessed where it came from; it was also concerned that the secret subsidy might be discovered by the FBI"
* "The KGB correctly identified the Lane as the most talented of the 1st wave of CTer's researching the JFK assassin' The NY Residency"
Vasili Mitrokhin The Sword & the Shield The Mitrokhin Archive & the Secret History of the KGB pp 225-230
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 You gullible ignoramus. Stop bothering me with your asinine posts until you've read even 1/100th of the source material I have on JFK's murder. I am weary of blowhards like you who, having read Posner's fiction, or Bugliosi's patently false (& massively flawed) book + a few other rightwing revisionist texts, think they are experts. You know NOTHING. You haven't a clue. Spend 46 years on it. Interview eyewitnesses. Compile millions of documents, as I have. Then write to me.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@Walru11 Mark Lane Ex-Army Intelligence Officer & Dbl Agent was given the concession from the CIA to propagate a 'CIA GK Assassin' by a dis & mis-information campaign for the express purpose and in the hopes the KGB would think that their foe was all powerful. So powerful that it could even kill JFGay & get away with it.
NY Times 09/11/49
tinypic_com/view_php?pic=62j0os5
The silly American public bought this 'Big Whopper', they needed an excuse to join the CPUSA & betray their country
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 Your latest post verifies your idiocy. You haven't a clue, you pathetic ass. Get help, you sad mental case.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 were anti-Communist in thrust and substance. Accordingly, Douglass has to fudge and equivocate constantly, as he tries to depict Kennedy as “trapped in the contradiction between the mandate of peace . . . and the continuing Cold War dogmas of his national security state.”[4] One particular trick Douglass uses is to conceal sources that show Kennedy to be a Cold War liberal. Douglass devotes page after page of analysis to Kennedy’s American Univ. commencement address
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
@auther1046 Halpern? Hilarious! All of these revisionist claims issue from CIA - the very agency that assassinated both JFK & RFK. JFK, who called Castro "the Simon Bolivar of Cuba," told Fidel in '63 that he sympathized with the revolution against Batista & was prepared to lift the embargo & recognize Cuba, based on certain terms. Castro reacted very positively. THIS, along with JFK's NSMs 55, 56, 57, & 263 sealed his fate. He was NOT going to war, seeking a world of tolerable diversity.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@KookTartsBigFarts1 The KGB did not finance the 1st CT books. That's pure invention on your part. RFK authorized wiretaps on MLK in order to protect him from Hoover's charges that a communist had infiltrated his inner circle. It had NOTHING to do with MLK's "love life," you blatant fabricator. RFK did in fact publicly contradict the LBJ Commission findings in 1968 & his silence before had NOTHING to do with JFK's private life, you moron. Your last charge re: B.O.P. is sheer insanity & lies.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 "The KGB did not finance the 1st CT books"
LIAR ! Book : The Mitrokhin Archive By Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, on the evidence supplied by Mitrokhin's transcribed versions of Top Secret KGB files the Soviet Union's KGB was principal in falsely connecting innocent ppl to the JFK Assassination & funding the NY Publishing House of M&M to the tune of $650,000 in 1963 monies
Why is it you react to the 'Truth' the same way a 'Werewolf' reacts to a 'Full Moon'" ? Just curious?
auther1046 1 year ago