just a few thoughts

[greenduckcandles]

I agree. I've only watched a few of your videos so far, but you have one more subscriber here. Glad I found your channel ;)

[auzziegardener]

hey how big is your garden? mine is 30 metres :) iam 14 and i love gardening

[kathleenallenvideos]

I agree with you. There is something troubling about this GM food tendency. If it doesn't behave like other organic things, as in the Monsanto "Round Up Ready" corn and soy, why do they think we humans, who are also organic things, would benefit from eating it??? In other words, if I spray Round Up on it and it doesn't die, what is it? If I put it on the shelf for weeks and the microbes and fungus show no interest, perhaps they are trying to tell us it really isn't edible.

[PCOStherealdeal]

So we ate store bought veggies... we felt sluggish, and miserable all summer long. Thankfully we are well on our way to using every square inch of our small garden to grow produce to hopefully last us all year long. And if we don't make it through winter we will be buying our produce from a local organic farm. We have an increasing rate of infertility and obesity in the USA, personally I blame the hormones and chemicals used in our meat's and on our produce.

[PCOStherealdeal]

I have to say I completely agree with every word. 2 summer's ago I started my own organic garden and provided my family with fresh veggies all summer long, not only did I notice a difference in flavor but I noticed a difference in my physical health and the health of my husband. We had more energy, thought clearer, had less every day pain and our skin looked better. Last summer I was rather busy and we wanted to save some money to start a serious garden this year.

[Nuwerra]

A new perspective for my family but one which is really changing our thoughts opinions and actions. Thanks for the leads.......

Pioneering in Victoria all over again, ripples reaching as far away as the Middle East, not bad Christian keep on with it!!!!!! sorry rambling on a bit, but just to appreciate your advice...

[Nuwerra]

Having just the same thoughts, Christian.Just got vids "Foodmatters, the world according to Monsanto,One man, one cow, one planet" left us stunned. We needed to be more consciousas the bottom line is profits, and control. Be a renegade! growing your own and trying to make the best ethical choices when buying, bartering and obtaining lifes necessiities.cont'd

[sadia102]

Thanks for the thoughtful vid. Reading Michael Pollan and others about food poduction, CCD in bees, the overuse of pesticides and fertiliser, waste and greed...commercial and private. Farmers get little for their crops and therefore use the easiest most economical ways for them. It would be better to pay them more so they can go back to more sustainable practices.

[homewouldheart]

There is only really a bigger demand, because less and less people are growing there own food.

[concretehavencom]

the hairless monkeys have replaced their sticks with money it makes the world go around..creates power, greed and corruption.its a me me now now world..so some big monkeys make cheaper meat by making genetic fat chickens and they get the sales and they get the money. with which comes the power to buy the best bananas , sleep in the nicest trees and hire other monkeys to feed the next generation of chickens more hormones ..and the cycle continues.u can only try to help yourself and teach others .

[FreeNiek]

i agree with you totaly, its insane the way they GM our food.

alot of things in this society are just crazy

and things need to change in a Big way and i think its gonna happen not long from now.

I think people need to learn how the earth works..because most of us totaly forgot.

we need to be independant again.

I'm doing a permaculture course at the moment and i'm helping building an earthship. because i think that is a great part of the solution.

thx for the video man! you are doing great

[landed1n74]

We can all vote at the checkout. Us consumers have to keep buying organic till the prices come down and the industry grows - it worked with free range eggs! It also worked with apartheid in South Africa - remember when no-one would buy South African as a protest? We can all make a difference once you put us all together! Keep up the good fight! :-)

[landed1n74]

I don't think it' going too far to cal it food terrorism lol...seems pretty apt actually. Keep farmers terrified that they can't keep up unless they do it, keep consumers terrified that they can't afford to live if they buy organic. It worked fine for thousands of years, there is a lot of money involved in the industry of keeping these misapprehensions alive.

[lll991]

But ultimately, I believe in the choice you have to farm as you see fit. I have travelled too and my impression of life is that there is very little worth fighting for, little worth killing for, and I am certain that politics is just the first step towards picking up a gun to make another man think as you'd want him to.

[chattingwithu]

Hmmm...I would pick up a gun to keep another man from trying to take something from me...such as my life or my family's life...there are some things worth fighting for. I don't want those rights taken away from me...

[lll991]

I have worked in agriculture and have my own gardens. I have witnessed eco attempts at professional level and they were not taken seriously by those using them, as if the thought was enough to stop common disease. Whole harvests were lost. This was political farming. To turn a farm into an eco farm it would take much effort, money and time. My own gardens drifted toward permacultural simply because I had a budget. I only use eco tricks if they work.

[lll991]

You talk about mainstream. Your ideas are mainstream ideas of the eco-warrior world. Is there another way to interpret what you've seen? You have to decide whether politics is a good long term motivation for you or a good thing for your farm. If you were not concerned about food production outside of your control, would you still be farming? How far would you go to make sure I thought the same as you? Politics...Farming... two different things, you decide.

[LynTaylorWade]

I don't know enough about farming but you got me thinking.

Ever wondered just how much meat goes to waste in a butcher shop/supermarket?? Can't say I have. Consumers demand instant gratification. If I want Chicken breast, I expect my Butcher to have it. So the butcher has to cater on the wills of the public. But what happens to that excess, unpurchased meat? Does it just go in the bin? It seems such a sad waste of an animals life as well as the resources used to get it market.

[LynTaylorWade]

I certainly don't agree with scientists playing with my food. GM foods will not have a place in my home. My biggest worry is the lack of food labeling, allowing me a choice in the subject. For all we know we are already eating GM foods.

[stacewizer]

I've been thinking the same thing. Scientists don't know enough about nature as a "whole system" to play with GMOs. The excuse that people have been playing with plants for millennia is absurd. Hybridizing is totally different; as is grafting.

GMO corn may (if not has) pollinate heirloom varieties. This is crap. Nature does not follow mans rules.

When will leaders figure this out again?

I suppose thats why it's up to us!

Peace

Good seeing you up and running again. You help get me through winter.

[Charrister]

Dont eat meat! :p

[Mumlor]

Christian, I think it's great that you're still farming organically and provoking thought and discussion on this very important subject. I don't know much about chicken and cow farming or any of the above - I just like growing my own veg and your videos have really helped me do that. For what it's worth, I believe GM is very wrong if it's only for profit. If there was a purer motive, maybe science can help nature sometimes. Like in a famine situation for instance.

[mugsyjeff]

I'm just a bloke who likes producing my own food, i keep bees & we've found an excellent source of protein from unwanted drone larvae, from my bee hives. This protein requires no water or fossil fuel in the production. I hear about the global population expanding & they reckon there'll be a food shortage, when at the same time i see urban blocks getting smaller & houses getting bigger. When i go to the rubbish tip, i see trailer loads of palm leaves from non food producing palms being dumped.

[hishauswife]

I have become evangelical on the subject of food and I want to share with everyone. I want to wake them up to what they are putting into their bodies, who and what they are supporting with their food dollars. Thank you for your vid, keep people talking, spread the message!

[hishauswife]

This topic is so importand! I have always worked hard to provide my family with good wholesome foods and thought I was doing a good job. Growing some of my own fruit and vegetables, preserving foods, keeping layer hens, shopping carefuly. I thought I was on top of things until I read "What to Eat" by Marion Nestle. What an eye opener! I followed it up with a viewing of Food Inc.

[LovesAllOfYou]

Also, and this is off topic, thank you so much for your channel. I'm starting a garden of my own soon as I'm moving into a house. I've learned SO much from your videos and I can't wait to get started. Keep it up!

[LovesAllOfYou]

I completely agree with everything you said. I live in the US and allegedly, it's illegal to put hormones into the food birds (chickens, etc). Even taking that away, there are still many problems with the treatment of the birds as well as the health of the meat produced. Stress hormones and rampant illness greatly effect the meat and so, of course, the bodies of the people who eat it. Personally, I'm a vegan, and for a lot of reasons. Farming practices are certainly among them.

[biancaj01]

hey. where r u in vic? ive done a permaculture design course and bought land. im in the west/ macedon ranges. do u do / know about permablitzes? great way to educate and share skills and knoweldge too..

[joujou1963]

Elite 'Food Terrorism' on Sheeple.

The GMO FOOD IS FOR Depopulation and Profits from disease treatment. Eat GMO-Denatured-Non nutritive food and you will vector into sickness. Add perpetual war for perpetual Piece (not Peace) and voila. See wikipedia Population Control. Humans have overpopulated the planet very successfully. Peace, plentiful food and disease prevention would continue the success 10 fold. Google Video Gary Null and William Engdahl (Seeds of Destruction) and see for yourself.

[capelthwait]

Both sides of this argument have misconceptions. It sometimes seems that neither side is willing to listen to the other. I like direct market farming and organic farming. It has been shown to be profitable at least in this area. Both of those do take more work than modern farming methods though. A modern farmer does not spend the time in the field that an organic farmer does. It takes more energy to farm organically than it does modernly, bu that energy comes from a source closer to home-you.

[PrincessCasper24]

H!

what the hell do people think humans did before the use of all these unnatural aspects in farming? permaculture and organic is not a new concept and i think that so many people dont get that! think about 100 years ago or more, people knew how to farm the land with respect. i have never been able to comprehend how people think all these unnatural processes (in EVERYTHING WE DO) are better or easier for us than how nature first intended......

[Belteshazzar105]

@PrincessCasper24

I couldn't agree more with your comment!

[MadBadVoodo]

★★★★★

[Noz7777]

Hi

Thanks for posting - great to see you're still thinking about this issue. I feel that we must convert to sustainable agriculture, for, by definition, it is the only way that we can sustain ourselves over the long term. Personally, I feel that efficiency must be considered for home grown material. Further that an industrial ecology approach should be taken to urban areas including composting waste and growing up food like larvae and mushrooms, locally.

[MarkBH70]

Corn

and

Rice

Beans, Beef, Chicken, Pork.

In Mexico.

It's not a joke! City Planning. County Planning. Country Planning. World Planning. If you're ignorant, everything's going to Crapola, Just According To Plan. World Demise. That's the Plan. Don't know it? Research it. When people get more and more money, and buy out everything. It's like Monopoly. The Game. It's a game! All the money? What to do? Hurt People. It's the way of the world. Sorry, Chap! Or I guess y'all say "Mate"!

[thebirthden]

Another point I would like to make is that yes, it would be great if everyone could have a small holding like Christian does but permaculture has had great success in urban settings. The 'food forest' principle works great for small spaces. There are lots of community programs that are out there were people are turning their yards into food forests and sharing their harvests.

[thebirthden]

I don't know that you can actually say permaculture won't feed the world. Darren Doherty seems to be doing a good job incorporating permaculture principles into large farming operations. I don't know that I personally agree with all his methods but he is definitely moving things in the right direction. Found him here on youtube so you can too!

[nkey01]

I agree with you on MG food, chemicals and animal welfare. The problem is Organic farming can not feed to world. It can not grow all the grains that the world needs. I know that you and others will talk about permaculture which does have some solutions, but it does not solve all the problem of production and population.

If you have not seen it, I would recommend "A Farm for the Future" made by the BBC. Really good info on permaculture ect...

Part 1 of 5

watch?v=xShCEKL-mQ8

[capelthwait]

If you don't believe in GM food and chemicals how can you believe that modern farming practices are better to feed the world than permaculture? Without it's chemicals and genetically modified seeds, monoculture farming cannot raise ANY food, much less enough food for everyone. It is a house of cards. As long as we continue to modify the seeds to resist disease and as long as we keep dumping petroleum based chemicals onto the earth modern farming practices can work, without them it cannot.

[nkey01]

capelthwait,

where did I say that I "believe that modern farming practices are better to feed the world than permaculture?"

Please show me.

I dont uses any chemicals in the plants I grow, I know full well the cost they have on Earth.

I also live in the real world. I know the difference between how I want things to be and how they really are.

Please watch the "A Farm for the Future" watch?v=xShCEKL-mQ8 , you will like it. It talks about problems and has solutions.

[capelthwait]

Petroleum is cheap and easy as are chemicals. Believe it or not, most farmers want to make money just like everyone else. It would take less than a year to stop using petroleum for farming on my family's farm but it would cost us several million dollars tha we could not recoup. People want cheap food so farmers give it to them. If people paid the same prices for food (what they need to live) as they do for their computer toys, all farming could be done with very little carbon footprint.

[nkey01]

capelthwait,

I have heard some people call it Petroleum slaves that are used to produce food. I agree that it would take a great deal of human labour and thinking to replace Petroleum. In some post peak oil scenario I have heard there are a lot more people working on farms. I wonder how the food would be moved to the cities with out oil, I hope you do to.

I live in a city but come from a family of farmers and know that money matters and how hard it can be. Good luck with your family farm.

[capelthwait]

I'm not talking about human labor. We produce so much energy everyday on our dairy farm. Cow manure could run 60 households and power our machines but it would cost millions for each farm to do this. As long as oil is cheap no farmer is going to pay millions that they will never recoup to have less of a carbon footprint. We have to make food important again. There are thousands of ways to be good to the earth and still feed people but they cost money. Who is willing to pay triple for their food?

[nkey01]

capelthwait,

I have heard about digesters, very interesting way of producing energy. They do come at a cost and their carbon footprint reductions are questionable on the large scale.

please take a breath.

the "eco way" of farming cows is on grass and not with corn as most farms do in the USA. Collecting the manure from grass feed animals would take a lot of human labour. Feeding them in feed lots with corn could make a large carbon footprint. I am not say you farm like that. I dont know.

[capelthwait]

The eci way of farming cows is not to have them. Cows are one of the biggest producers of methane (green house gas) on the planet. That methane is going to be there if you have cattle, no matter what. Why not harness it? I've seen some of the data questioning the carbon footprint of digesters and most do not take in ALL the facts, just like most data produced, it is scewed one way or another. I don't disagree with you on what you say, I just put out a different view.

[nkey01]

capelthwait,

I know enough to question but enough to know the answers sadly. I like the idea of digesters & think they have a place. Human & pigs come to mind.

With regard to cows, many say to reduce their numbers. Cows can be farmed where veg farming is not so easy, hills ect.. Cows can also growth soil too Michael Pollan has a vid about it somewhere,

I want organic farming to work, I also want all the facts. I just dont see it feeding the world right now, Good luck with your farm.

[capelthwait]

First, if we were iser with our food uses we would have much more land for growing food. Hundreds of thousands of acres of land are used to grow corm for high frutcose corn syrup, which not only has no food value but is actually bad for us. Put those acres into true food prodcution and you could feed the world. In America, 40 to 50% of all food produced never makes it to market-people don't buy blemished food. That food alone could feed all the hungry people of the world.

[capelthwait]

Last but not least, not all land should be used up by humans. If you can't farm it for veg, leave it for nature, don't try to fit a cow onto it. You don't need to use every piece of land for some human need. You don't need to just ask question, you need to ask ALL the questions, like why do you think that a feedlot cow produces less gas than a pastured cow? Pastured cows use more land, spread more weeds and disease, and need more predator and competition control than feedlot cattle.

[capelthwait]

If you ask ALL the questions you can find the best answers. Cattle raised on pastures in the Rocky Mountains have been the #1 reason for the demise of the wolf. I agree that it would take a radical change in society to make a difference but careful business and land use planning, finding a way to get the public to eat better and to not over eat, and realizing the importance of food compared to things like TVs and computers and we could save the world through farming. I can't see it happening.

[nkey01]

capelthwait,

Pastured cows use more land? maybe, but are you including the land used to grow food for feedlot cows? The carbon footprint to move the feed? Cows welfare?

Well managed pasture cows do not spread weeds and disease. Feedlot which use corn have more disease & need more drugs than pasture grass feed cows. my uncle has pasture cows on grass that have never been ploughed & have no disease or weed problem.

I do agree with you about the waste of land (corn syrup) and of food.

[1fanger]

Hey Christian, I agree with what you seem to put across regarding commercial food. I think you nailed it on the head, so to speak, when you said that folks are ignorant food shoppers buying supermarket junk. We, as a people, seem to think, even though we know, on average, that our food supply is poisoned, that our food is good for us. But, maybe our minds have been messed with. The poisons that obviousely have been introduced into the food supply, are the reason why we have become so complacent.

[bobindaminiminer]

i totally agree gm food is disgusting

lol GOTTshua

[GOTTshua]

What's gonna happen when people have so much GMO inside them that they cannot support their own weight and fall-down after only taking a few steps? Miserable slow death.

[adamberk07]

I just wanted to say thank you. For this video and your others...

You also turned me onto the river cottage series, and that has really pushed me to seriously consider going into a venture similar to a smallholding. Being a young guy of 24 it helps to be presented with options for my future that I actually can get excited about.

Anyways, thanks again, great stuff, and greetings from Canada!

[cuatvega]

I totally agreee with you. Most food found in the store is not made to eat, it is made to be "stored" while waiting to be sold. Food produced the way you described is made for only one reason, PROFIT; never for nutritional reasons.

Also scary is the way garden seeds are under the control of those same corporations.

[lloydmer]

You might be interested in books by Michael Pollan: "The Omnivores Dilemna", "In Defense of Food"....and one I haven't read yet "Botany of Desire". Very insightful work into how the food system operates. Actually, he figures Americans eat more corn than those in Latin America just because there is so much high fructose corn syrup in the products sold in the States. I think your term "food terrorism" is appropriate after seeing how Monsanto intentionally contaminates neighboring crops.

[ConocimientoEsPoder1]

Sorry about my english :) (I'm still learning)

[ConocimientoEsPoder1]

GMOs=Frankenstein food.

Irradiated food = useless deadly food. (In my opinion)

[jfrogto]

I think at the first sight it's a question of growing ones own food.

But it' s also most important to use the right varietys of corn, chickens etc. For example the corn seeds i can buy in a garden market are hybrid and can't be used to get new seeds. This way i grow my own food but i still rely on big companies producing the seeds.

A simple solutions for the hybrid corn problem a friend told/gave me: Next year i will grow bantam corn.

Greetings from germany

[seeself1]

When you enter a genetic code with anything that is essentially experimental, you are experimenting with life itself. This is dangerous, and should be treated with that in mind. People who eat genetic food are under experimentation by corporations who are doing this experimentation on plants and animals. This means whatever it means to you, but to me, it means I don't want to participate in any way. That means that I eat exclusively organic and homegrown as much as possible.

[origirox]

Watched the video "Food Inc." short time ago which about this subject. Franken Foods (GM) are disturbing. Ultimately & Unfortunately, once GM seed is spread, winds and other natural methods will carry it around the world. Do we really want ONE company (Monsanto ~ aggressive GM seed patent owner) to control the world's food supply and/or seeds? Also, land owners will not have control of their own lands. I believe that people do not know what to do. Who are the judges that allowed this to happen?

[jihadacadien]

hey you cut your hair lol.....I'm trying to do the same thing you are doing it seems.....and I guess I'm feeling the same as you do about all that stuff....I can't understand all this nonsense about modifiying everything for profit. I've always wondered if those big companie's presidents families eat the crap they sell.....well I'm not lol

[RemoteTreechanger]

I am not used to the major supermarkets anymore and I do usually find something to take offense with when I go there.

I tend not to buy chicken either, because when I take antibiotics I want them to work. I think that is all that is in Australian chicken, I hope.

[chazfensk]

One thing to remember about the supermarket food is that even though it is cheap there is not as much nutrition. You may save money now but the cost to your health will be much greater.

[theproducegarden]

i almost didnt post this vid as i ramble on a fair bit but its one moment in a day and the whole gm food thing has been in my mind, im really appreciating the mail and comments in regards to this as the reason i posted it was to encourage thought and opinion, thanks to everyone!!

[1ShaolinStyle]

Yes, growing food the way Mother Nature intended is the only way. One of the problems is that farmers would have to take time to clean there fields of chemicals before they can even think about growing organic and then they have to pay extra $ so that they can say there growing organic. This is way its cost so much more to buy organic. I grow my own veggies and raise my own chickens for eggs only and it might take some time out of my day but it taste better and it better for me.

[stangg79]

Just clicked your video today.. and I'm wearing the same shirt. Random.. :)

[justmom66]

You have a lot of good points for sure. I think for most the whole concept of growing your own is a bit overwhelming to most. The environment most feel is just a problem that is just to much for them to even try.

[EbolaV1rus]

We should study nature and try to mimic that. That's what I do in my backyard. As far as genectically modifying meat and vegetables, we don't need to do that, and in fact we should boycott any of that garbage. Selective breeding can achieve all of our needs. Take a look at the super cow video here on youtube, it's a perfect example of selective breeding, and how it is a success.

Great video! I always look forward to your opinions and insights.

God Bless you.

[anotherising]

Corn and 6 kinds of potatoes, and cabbage, and 'food' bananas in mexico, around guatamala, have no idea about how much is GMO though, but you are right, hormones in cattle leave traces in the milk,cheese,meat,yogurt(danone­) etc. like pensiline allso.

Some children have symthoms of hormonal disturbance, be it from makeup or dairy foods, maybe there is a conection maybe not.

GMO foods is dangerus i think, why change the dna in food when its good as it is, mass production and profits maybe

[GoatHollow]

I live in the mid-western U.S. (Surrounded by 1000's of acres of "G.M" corn and soybeans). The entire "Model" of farming will have to change as time goes on. It is currently unsustainable. Factory farming, and "G.M." crops only serve one purpose - Corporate profits. It currently takes 10 calories of fossil fuel, to produce 1 calorie of food (Insane). Oil prices WILL rise a lot, and this will make current farming methods impossible.

[bookhound63]

I am an American who enjoys your videos very much. I agree with you about genetically modified foods. There will be repercussions.

I personally want to grow my own food because I think the US is headed for an economic collapse.

I'm one of those Bible clinging, gun toting, redneck conservatives you are always hearing about. (Don't worry, I'm not dangerous.)

I have enjoyed your channel for a full year now, and I must admit, I sometimes wonder what you must think of us "Americans".

[landsell]

I know the psychological attackers will come after me for making a comment. ..... but you are absolutely right. Christians should be more interested in this since the Old Testament says that God put is in charge of the beasts to name them - which means to me that we should treat them well before they go to slaughter.

[kokonutbaby1]

@landsell, also the Old Testament in Leviticus or Law tells the Hebrews not to mix seeds when planting as well as other things..there was a reason for that...most of those laws were to protect their health. Now we mix & make hybrids all the time & who knows what it does to us. You are what u eat, what changes dna in your food, changes dna in you. Something to think about.

[djeraser]

I do dislike the GM food however i do tend to believe that it is the path needed to sustain the massive populations in the world, If you have room i do agree you should grow your own vegies etc. The knowledge is dieing with each generation. I personally find things like: "how do i know if i have dug far enough down in clay soil", "what should be grown together", "What should i be planting and where", "What are the warning signs of plantx is in stress or too much water" hard to find answers for.

[Beardedyoungman]

this is very false, gmo is about controlling the food source from an economic standpoint not from a social standpoint. Te economic goals of people who force these trends has served only to strangle out the local and willing farmers. watch that documentary mentioned below.. enough milk prodeced in the US to give whole world 1 glass a day, most of it gets dumped due to laws which make farmers produce more they can sell.. you need to have certain # of chickens to get licence to sell eggs..

[djeraser]

Yes but you cant send that milk to the whole world without it getting spoilt. If it were financially viable i am sure someone would do it. Cows wouldn't even give the amount of milk that they give if it wren't for us selectively breeding the more productive cows. Remember this year the human race will be producing the most food ever produced.

[Beardedyoungman]

agreed but if it's about feeding people then you can see it's a false reality based on economic power struggles. I just say that about milk to point out how much americans waist. most of our food gets thrown out rather then eatten because of the supply lines and the disconnect that's being caused between farmers and customers which makes it imposible for the farmer to understand the concepts of demand,

[Beardedyoungman]

Lots of the land that goes to feeding these cows and water waisted there could be much better used. not to mention how they polute the water table and small towns can not use wells anymore meanwhile other countries have no water and lack of food due to erosion, it's just a crime.

[odin422]

Ever watched the documentary FOOD INC.??

[Tossdart]

The main reason farmers do what they do is to make money. We make money & buy their produce because we as a society are removed from our food as we are busy making money. Change needed to come long ago. It is now probably too late as the GM pollen is spread. It is difficult for farmers to see a way to change as that means a move from mono culture & secure market. As a whole persons need to broaden their own food base & move out of the comfort zone. Instead of bread a nice different salad.

[DoctorsWife56]

It's not just hormones in the meat birds, it's the bred-for traits that renders the chicken unable to stand on it's legs because they are too heavy. They are bred to be as heavy as they can be just before they are slaughtered. When these commercialized birds are raised by people who do not slaughter them by 5-6 weeks of age, thier freakishness emerges and the poor things cannot stand on their own legs.

Good report, and I hope you are enjoying your warm weather!

[CAlex6977]

This is a big issue in the world. The movie FOOD INC lays it all out there pretty well. You should check it out. Also a book by Michael Polan called Omnivore's Dilema is great reading material on this topic.

[kokonutbaby1]

What right does any gov't have to tell u what to grow (not talking narcotics) on your own property when it harms no one? They are trying to get the public totally dependent on the gov't for everything we spend, eat, and otherwise consume. Stop spending if u want prices to drop in order to make a change. Banks, businesses, & gov't gets panicky if we dont spend money. Get the hint? Live minimally until representatives start representing the majority as they no longer are doing. Vote them out!

[ewigkase1]

no including "narcotics" what right does anyone have to say what I or anyone else does to them self. as long as you are not beat raping anyone then who cares. you may not like what they are doing but where does the justification stop if someone does not like the bible or anyone reading then we should just criminalize it. freedom is not free sometimes we have to put up with other life styles in order to protect are own i think we need to label GMO because it is not a life style i want to chose

[kokonutbaby1]

@ewigkase1, narcotics was not the point here, it was GM food, but since u brought it up, illegal use of narcotics does affect me & everyone else, 1. because when u cant get it u steal from me, kill me, etc.2. I do not want to be in the same traffic as you. 3. I do not want my kids to be around u all high & messed up. 4. I dont wanna work in a store that u hold up to get drugs. So do u see its not just about YOU now? Plus, who wants to scrape up your gross dead body after u died, EMTs dont! lol

[ewigkase1]

go educate yourself ignorant fool. you are talking about effects of people do these things because of the criminality the prohibition. people kill people over the bible or Koran more then over drugs. plus if it was legalized it would get ride of the damn cartail like with alcohol prohibition. one weed has no record of death it has show to cure cancers by recreating the signal in the cells to terminate like normal. i dont want drug user on the road either but guess what they already are

[ewigkase1]

plus i dont like being around drunk i dont like being around horin addicts. but I see that Prohibition has done far more harm then good insinuate people go to jail just being with someone who had drugs in there pocket. it is about education not ignorance and a fantasy world that if unseen that it must be better. the problem has been made worse bty having cartail run this then people dont get help the get put in jail and then can get jobs so they can change there life or evan get school loans

[ewigkase1]

i rather spend 50billion on chasing rapist murders. oh by the way not everyone steals and kills because of drugs. you are narrow mind if you think that. hell Netherlands has just closed down 9 prisons and drug use has gone down. this is how we end this through education more people die from cigarettes then all the overdoses ov the hard drugs. hell gorge Washington grew hemp and the first American flag was made with hemp and the first printing press was with hemp paper get of this reefer madnes

[ewigkase1]

"illegal use of narcotics does affect me" duh!

it is the prohibition that has torn family's apart more then the drugs them self. it is a health issue and should not be criminal issue. people being high is far better then drunks get Violante. weed just relaxes you this is why it is good for pain etc. some of these opium like morphine heroin and Oxycontin. doctors have tried a number of pain killers on me and they all make me depressed suicidal I cant do anything I feel weak and they do shit.

[ewigkase1]

and all thous thing you are talking about are issues that would be either reduced by legalization cannabis and decriminalization of the scary hard drugs. the country's in Europe have seen a drop in crime and use over the years it just makes sense to do what works. all that you talked about are crimes and should be punished. this is why government should regulate not the drug dealers who sale to kids. we can provent kids getting it easier it was easier for me in school to get illegals then BEER

[ewigkase1]

i had a few friends go to the hospital for alcohol poisoning but with weed i never hear this never. i never heard of death from it never heard of this refer madness that it drives you crazy and you go kill someone just because of weed . see that is the problem the government has lied so much about it that it is back firing. people are seeing that at least 80% of what they say about is pure lies. you dont grow boobs dont gocrazy dont die from it. it dose not kill brain cells it is naturaly inbody

[ewigkase1]

alot of the hard drug users are dieing of and there are not being recruited for more because there is no profit in it for the drug dealers because the dealers have all been put out of business .

when was the last time you had a beer or cigarette? personally I don't drink but have been compelled to because it is the only legal option frankly it scares me. maybe we should criminalize so the drug dealers can sale again like in the 1920. see these documentary films In Pot We Trust

the union

[ewigkase1]

by the way the bible effects me to and everyone else have you ever heard of a holy war like Iraq. more people die and kill in the name of god then drugs probably in the billions through out all the ages. so should we criminalize religion because he effects us all religious or not. I believe in god but I dont trust the man made religions because all think they are chose by god and are the true church and this is how the killing starts. then my government makes me fight for something I dont feel

[kokonutbaby1]

I dont think the gov't prodded by big industry should serve us up GM products w/out labeling it as such..that is wrong! People have a right to know what they are consuming & how it may harm them. Nothing will be done about it talking..people need to come out in numbers in protest to washington & parliaments,etc. Talk gets ignored & petitions get trash canned. You will never make change unless u step out in their faces in numbers. Some are even trying to pass laws against organic gardening.

[TnWormsCastings]

whats gm foods

[ewigkase1]

Genetically modified foods fish and tomato genetics put together that type of thing

[chattingwithu]

Most people I think have grown up shopping for foods in the supermarkets. Maybe some have grown up on farms and perhaps have had gardens but because the US is an industrialized nation markets became a convenience for the people I think . Our prompting to have a garden though came with the potential "hard" economic times that sit in front of us and down the road. We are doing all that we can to be prepared! Thanks for sharing!

[ewigkase1]

i think the greatest threat of gm foods is that of self terminating seeds. because they have found gm foods cross pollinating with near by crops and weeds which are part of the ecosystem which we live off of not grocery stores. then there is the law issues from the cross pollinating that farms get sued when have gene code that they "own". also some of the enzymes that are in organic food are not in GM foods enzymes that help fight cancer. thanks for post

[FoodOrFail]

Every dollar you spend is a vote for the type of future you want. Never buy seedless.

[StevoJN]

I agree man! I'm not keen on gm food at all, but if woolies doesn't advertise what it is, then I don't have much choice tho as to what I can buy here in central qld - Too hot for growing much through summer, lettuce for example goes to seed as soon as it gets about half grown.

[UniqueExposures]

I agree with you, but I do not think it is so much ignorance as much as it is people are lazy and do not want to take the time to even try to grow and produce there own food. They think it is easier to shop the market for it. Or this is how most are here in the USA. I have been growing my own a while and enjoy it. Its a good stress re leaver and it tastes much better than the crap at the stores.

[msamour]

Dude did you see the size of the cracks between the door and the door frame? His heating bills in the winter must be outrageous! You might want to put some insulation foam on these cracks to reduce cost of heating in the winter. Mike, London, On.

[theproducegarden]

the door is partly open, hot day

[msamour]

My bad nevermind. We Canadians when we see cracks like that can't help but thinking you must be freezing your butt off in the winter. then again I forgot you are in the middle of summer there. Cheers!

[theoriginalSkooby]

I think another side benefit of permaculture is that you could keep people working more steady hours. Instead of one big harvest you could have several staggered apart.

As far as GM foods, I think they have promise. But they were rushed to market. It should have been tested for at least another decade before release.

[ironlionkalo]

wow i love that term food terrorism. thats the perfect wood for it. unresponsible agriculture is a scary thing in my opinion