Inside Story - Ankara and Tel Aviv, collision course or path to progress?

[carexperttoronto]

UN : acupation of gaza its a legal security measure!!!

[yklocnykl]

terror state israel

[meny87]

The capitol of Israel is not Tel Aviv, but the unified city of Jerusalem. Idiots...

[DieFaktenlage]

@abbienetvision

By saying "if the palis want peace, they should stop attacking Israel" - you are implying, all palestinians are attacking Israel, which, by far, has nothing to do with the real facts. Of course I don't want to contradict the circumstance that there are of course some radical, extremist palestinians - nobody does. But Israel has to recognize, that the harrasment of the Palestinians committed by radical settlers is also a source of hatred, leading to terroristic activities!

[abbienetvision]

@DieFaktenlage

Sadly your explanation is a cop out, since prior to 1967 there were no settlers, yet the palis tried to kill the Israelis. The two state solution was even offered in 1949, but the Arabs preferred war to destroy the Jewish state, again they tried to "kick all Jews into the sea" in 1967 and in 1973. They lost the wars, which they started. If they had won, there would not be a Jew in the middle east today.

Israel still tried to give back land for peace, the result was new terror!

[hamd098]

I'm not sure why they invited the old guy in cairo.. he seems eclipsed by the lifelier and younger speakers in Istanbul and Tel Aviv

[FanatikosKafetzis]

Did anyone notice this Mustafa guy that admitted that Turks were burning Kurdish villages in the 90s???? Fuck hypocrisy in politics!!!

Both sides have mistreated populations under their heel. :-(

However, Turkey can not and should not pretend they are interedted in humans. They are genocidal jerks, specifically against Greeks, Armenians and Kurdish.

Anyone to disagree with my statements?

[prkecik07]

Israel always talking about democracy. Democracy means majority rules. So why minority Israel want to rule?

[abbienetvision]

@prkecik07

The Arabs are 20% of the Israeli population, so they should rule, even though 80% of Israel is Jewish? Is that what you consider Democracy?

[soadtr]

"fuck arabs go to hell we are turks not arab!

[elanainisrael]

@digitalbullshit I agree piss (peace) ship did not pose a threat 2 Israel itself BUT Israel cannot take the chance that the piss IHH did not have arms 4 Gaza. It is so clear IHH provoked the attack. It did not obey Israel's request to dock at Ashdod where aid would be delivered to Gaza. Why did Hamas leave the "very critical" aid to rot for weeks before accepting it. Look at any video and you will see that Israel supplies tons of aid to Gaza-you can see the Israeli labels on the cans in hebrew.

[Azamspazam91]

@elanainisrael I don't think you get the point. Israel supplying Gaza with limited aid is not acceptable. Gaza needs to be autonomous to generate its own economy which is why the siege needs to be broken. Without doubt after the siege is broken Gaza City has the potential to become just as rich as Haifa or Tel Aviv. Today, fisherman can't even go past 3 nautical miles to fish and can barely scrape a living. Turkey's flotilla was a peaceful siege based on moral grounds.

[elanainisrael]

@Azamspazam91 Amen to what you said Gaza could be peaceful, rich and secure if they recognized Israels right to live in security and peace. They are obsessed with amassing sophisticated weaponry to kill instead of peace. With peace the whole region could be rich and secure. Men make war for nothing. Wasted young lives filled with hate on both sides. The flotilla was deliberate provocation. Yes a few passengers came on moral grounds, but IHH certainly were not on board in order to help Gaza.

[Azamspazam91]

@elanainisrael what sophisticated weaponry was bought on board the mavi marmara? lol the only weapons I saw were cameras and microphones operated by reporters. If Israel had the moral high ground they wouldn't have had special instructions to kill particular activists. They wouldn't have confiscated the material that would've provided the other perspective of the story.

This is a given; Noone, not the arabs nor the rest of the world will accept Israel as a purely jewish (apartheid) state with

[elanainisrael]

@Azamspazam91 Israel cannot EVER take a chance that maybe there would be sophisticated arms on board ANY vessel. No country would let any craft into their country without checking the cargo. The fact that IHH terrorists were aboard forced a decision to board the ship AFTER Israel's polite request for them to dock at Ashdod. Death chants and insults and Allah Achbar were broadcast in response to Israel's request . Soldiers were beaten first by IHH. It is clear from the videos seen by the world

[Azamspazam91]

@elanainisrael Jerusalem as its capital. If you want to see a peaceful stable Israel and middle east, make Arabs equal citizens, end apartheid annex the west bank and Gaza, remove checkpoints provide healthcare, and job opportunities for arabs, start Jewish-Arab interfaith campaigns, end state sponsored terror and find common ground with neighbors. Change the Israeli flag to incorporate a mixed identity and feel proud of it. Jews didn't normalize in Europe or in Middle East. Who is the problem?

[Azamspazam91]

@elanainisrael As for jerusalem the solution is simple; it should be an international zone; a city state. Noone is in control and everyone can visit. There should be neutral peacekeeping forces and freedom to worship for all (not just Palestinians older than 45)

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

Like the international force in the Sinai prior to the 1967 war (when Egypt kicked them out) or like Southern Lebanon today (where Hezbollah moves rockets and reigns freely, against every resolution on human rights and on the Israel/Lebanese conflict) or maybe you mean like the HR groups in Gaza who sat silently while Hamas members shot Fatah members, hang them, and still let terrorist use their buildings to fire out of!

Which international force should it be holding Jerusalem?

[elanainisrael]

@Azamspazam91 You and I and my granny can make peace - the people using people power for good - peace, security and most importantly I think, forgiveness, for all the suffering on both (all) sides. Jerusalem, the Holy City for the three great faiths who preach love and tolerance but it is only man himself who preaches death and killing by distorting the words of their Holy Books.

[abbienetvision]

@elanainisrael

The koran is not distorted by those who preach and want to kill. The koran is crystal clear on the idea of world conquest through violence, hating the infidel, if non-Muslims want to live in Muslim lands they must Feel themselves subdued and pay a protection tax 'Jiyza' (Mafia tactics), convert, or be killed

Mohamed,may he be burning in hell, lived this way and based his life on hating and killing, pedophilia, murder, rape, and most things vile, illegal and immoral to humanity.

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

The flotilla, regardless of what was onboard, couldn't be allowed to break the blockade, since legally if Israel had let the flotilla in, the blockade could not be enforced ever again. That is why it was so vital that the boats were not allowed into Gaza. The fact that there have been ships supplied with terrorist weapons and Hamas has one aim, to destroy Israel, is the reason for the blockade.

Gaza was full of fields, destroyed to create terror bases, hence the economic probs

[Azamspazam91]

@abbienetvision That's the whole point; they're trying to end the Israeli siege on occupied territory because its created a humanitarian crisis especially after 2008/09. Hamas one is democratically elected, two has renounced violence in aims of political solutions and three see's Zionism as unacceptable. Israel has the ability to change the situation but they will do doubt lose all regional and worldwide credibility if they stay the course. Ball's in Israel's court. Better make a move quick

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

Humanitarian crisis? LOL In Gaza? Have you seen the new water park, the 5 star hotels, the stores full of food and supplies? If there is such a lack in Gaza, why and how do they afford the Kassams, Grads, and anti-Aircraft missiles? Or are you admitting that they prefer terrorism to food and basic supplies and have created a humanitarian crisis by their own actions?

To Muslims, zionism is unacceptable, as is anything in the west,including all of Europe, freedom, women's rights,etc

[Azamspazam91]

@abbienetvision "Amnesty concluded that four out of five Gazans - 80 per cent of the population -depend on external aid to survive." Please just google "humanitarian crisis in Gaza" so I don't have to do the work for you.

Don't you think they'd have a little more than scrappy grad rockets if they could afford it? Although I don't agree with violent methods of resistance, a good deal of weaponry is donated just in support of the cause. Of course zionism is unacceptable that was known to every

[Azamspazam91]

@abbienetvision "Amnesty concluded that four out of five Gazans - 80 per cent of the population -depend on external aid to survive." Please just google "humanitarian crisis in Gaza" so I don't have to do the work for you.

Don't you think they'd have a little more than scrappy grad rockets if they could afford it? Although I don't agree with violent methods of resistance, a good deal of weaponry is donated just in support of the cause. Of course zionism is unacceptable that was known to every

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

Amnesty, the group which promotes terrorism in the pali areas since it was created? Amnesty is a joke. The workers are from the areas and all their building are used as launching bases for rockets &places to put posters to incite terror. Anything Amnestry writes is as reliable as Hitler's words.

Please Google, Red Cross recognizes no humanitarian crisis in Gaza

If they would concentrate on building an economy rather than terror base, they would have everything;they prefer death.

[Azamspazam91]

@abbienetvision country involved in setting up Israel. I'm taking zionism before 1948 so I very well understand the movement and the need for a jewish national homeland. The problem was Jews wanted a state just for the Jews with Jerusalem as its capital. You can't claim something as yours just because you're ancestors had it thousands of years ago. If Israel is to survive it must adopt pluralistic policies and get with the program in the middle east..or just face increasing pressure and violence

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

E. Jerusalem was illegally occupied by Jordan in 1948-1967. Only Muslims were allowed in to pray and trying to enter for others was responded by death. The only reason Jerusalem is free for anyone to even see today or tour is due to the Israelis taking the land. Under Israel, everyone can pray and see the holy city.

The Temple Mount, the most holy place in the world for Jews (mentioned over 800 times in the Torah and zero in the koran) is off limits to Jews.Hebron is destroyed

[Azamspazam91]

@abbienetvision The segregation of muslims and jews in jerusalem has to do with political instability. if there was no zionist movement in palestine, Jerusalem would be open to everyone as it has been for centuries before 1948. check out muslim spain (al andalus) if you really want to understand what jewish-muslim relations look like under political stablility. You need to study politics and pluralism. Work to create bridges. thats the only way to solve these issues. don't be polarized.

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

Have you looked up al andalus (muslim spain) as you told me to do? The major source of income was jiyza tax (koran 9:29,) which non-Muslims were forced to pay, it was much more than Muslims paid and was also to make us feel subordinate. Jews were prohibited from wearing green or white (the Islamic traditional colors) and after adopting the Arab dress the Jews were forced to wear Yellow turbans.

Palestine Jews were killed by the Muslims for centuries when under Muslim rule! Peace?

[Azamspazam91]

@abbienetvision Are you forgetting Maimonides? Or the Jewish golden age in Muslim Spain? The jiziya tax was just like any state tax. Aditionally, Muslims paid 2.5% of their annual earnings in taxes as well...so it wasn't just the non Muslims paying money to the state (if you think taxes is oppression you need to change the entire world cuz we all pay taxes.) Those who paid jiziya were exempt from the army; Muslim were responsible for defending their lives and property..what terrible oppression

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

E. Jerusalem was illegally occupied by Jordan in 1948-1967. Only Muslims were allowed in to pray and trying to enter for others was responded by death. The only reason Jerusalem is free for anyone to even see today or tour is due to the Israelis taking the land. Under Israel, everyone can pray and see the holy city.

The Temple Mount, the most holy place in the world for Jews (mentioned over 800 times in the Torah and zero in the koran) is off limits to Jews.Hebron is destroyed

[Azamspazam91]

@abbienetvision and on top of that, regardless of how Gaza's economy is doing at this moment (Gaza's unemployment rate was among the world's highest, at 45.2% in late 2010, the UN has found, as Israel's blockade of the territory enters its fifth year.) Gaza NEEDS freedom from Israeli control OR the establishment of a new country over Israel, Gaza and West Bank which incorporates both Jewish and Arab identities. (Jerusalem would be an international zone monitored by UN peacekeeping)

[abbienetvision]

@Azamspazam91

You know the the human right groups in Gaza have been there for over 60 yrs (from 1948-1967 Gaza was part of Egypt) meaning that the Gazan, lazy Arabs, have not changed and regardless of any gov't or occupation (which there is none) these leaches are used to everything for free and don't want to work, but cry, complain and take handouts from the world. This is from the beginning.

Gaza has ZERO Jews, same with Jordan and Abbas has said that any Pali state will have no jews also

[cbballbreaker1900]

i have one word for the turks and apology armenian/ asryan/ greek genocide 3 million christians killed and 100.000 kurds killed by mongolian invader turks

[DieFaktenlage]

I don't understand why Israel is not offering new peace talks although they don't want Palestine to have an unilateral declaration of statehood at the General Assembly which is nearly the only thing they can do to maybe change the (poor and terrible) conditions. The Israeli government now has the chance to show the Palestinian people that it wants this peace and that the armed wings of the Hamas and the other groups loose their legitimacy (for their terror). Peace for everyone!

[abbienetvision]

@DieFaktenlage

I have a better idea..if the palis want peace, they should stop attacking israel at every chance, should follow any of the many peace agreements they have make already and stop the incitement to kill Israelis, they could recognize Israel as written in all treaties also. Maybe then their words would have some strength behind them. Their actions prove that terror is what they love, death,destruction, and brainwashing the kids to kill.

[elanainisrael]

One side of the world should apologise to the other side of the world. No more wars, no more bloodshed - enough is enough. We all apologise to each other.

[onder1188]

LET THE OTTOM ISLAMIC EMPIRE RISE AGAIN!

[elanainisrael]

@digitalbullshit get this straight-check out first who IHH are. Question yourself: What were they doing on the so called peace ship. Where did they get iron bars, chains and knives from and why would they need them if they were so peaceful. Why did they take guns and shoot soldiers. Their intention was not to deliver baby powder, their intention was provocationand they did a very good job. Why did they chant death threats if they were peaceful, sweet, people going on vacation to Gaza

[perrik7]

WHAT DID TURKEY CONTRIBUTES TO THE WORLD EXEPT HONOR KILLING?

[MrAnymeansnecessary]

As-salaamu alaikum Muslims...what ever happened to leaders like Umar?!(may God be pleased with him). these guys we have now have no might, no warrior spirit...

[DJAR1E]

@MrAnymeansnecessary Funny, because I think he'd be the one more aptly named "Mr. Anymeansnecessary". Punching everyone in the face, although slightly better than the passive-aggressiveness of the Turkish guy, is still stupid. Looking at all four people in this video, it's a shame to think the fate of the Palestinians are in the hands of such apes. The only thing that will save them is to have their own population more educated and refined than their neighbors, all of whom are detractors.

[MrAnymeansnecessary]

i'd've punched that Roman guy dead in his face,period.

[doglin82]

why can't they just release the video to the public? and then everyone will see what happened..whether it is the Israeli forces that used excessive force or the Turks that were acting violently or perhaps both?

[LuckyDukeSeven]

Israeli Motto: "When shit gets hard, change the subject"

[LuckyDukeSeven]

"Israel is willing to compensate those individuals that were unfortunately killed in the attack"

They're DEAD you moron. How's Israel going to compensate them?

[TheSyrianooo]

I like Turkish policy and game with israel ! Remamber that Israel gonna be fucked very hard and deep !!! Free Palestine !!!

[JuanVoyce]

If it was a peaceful flotilla--then the Turks are right. But if the the crew attacked the commandos with clubs--the soldiers have the right to defend themselves without apology.

[NaelokQ]

That guy's playing right from the old Zionist playbook.

@ 11:30

"Oh fuck, he's got me... let's bring up some random unrelated shit!"

[jesusonXTC]

Iran will FUCK israel up, and free palestine from zionist theives.

[Bander1]

I think netenyahu probably watched MIDNIGHT EXPRESS.

I heard its hurla burlah.LOL.

[metallitech]

Why Ankara and Tel Aviv? Israel's seat of government is Jerusalem as far as I know. Why would Al Jazeera refer to Tel Aviv?

[corruptscorpion]

@metallitech because jerusalem is not legal and not recognized as israel

[metallitech]

@corruptscorpion It is legal, and you can't just choose another city to be Israel's capital because you want it to be that way. It's simply incorrect.

[corruptscorpion]

@metallitech what is correct is the 1967 borders, so go correct netanyahu , not me

[metallitech]

@corruptscorpion Well 1967 borders included some of Jerusalem, but that is beside the point. The point is that Al Jazeera shouldn't just revise the facts to make it more paletable to their audience.

[ElshamyWalid]

Israel lost Turkey and Egypt which 2 majore ass kicking countries that will kick Israel's ass big time

[esther19741974]

@ElshamyWalid The God of the Bible says in (Ezekiel 38:8, 11) that no those countries plus a few more are gonna get ass whipped! by the lord himself! and, ISA IS NOT GONNA DO NOTHING!

[inventorOz84]

Hypocritical? Do you know what that means Sir? Seriously! How can you even mention this word? Turkish government is not related to the ship. But, Turkish citizens were onboard, so, they have the responsibility of their safety. How can a ally country attack Turkish ship and shoot people in the head? Do you think they can get away with what they did? Lahey will decide ...

[engmustafa83]

thanks for you too, such a nice great show

good evening to you

[inventorOz84]

Israeli government did wrong; and wrong is wrong from every point of view. Thou shall not kill. So, Turkish government is doing the right thing.



[leonhardw]

@inventorOz84

Do you really think this conflict is that easy? And do you think that the Turkish Government serves as a good moral beacon?

How many Kurds were killed in the recent protests in Kurdistan by the hand of Turkish policemen  and soldiers?

[inventorOz84]

@leonhardw

I think it is super easy: Sorry Turkey and the rest of the world, I, Israel thought that the rest of the human kind serves for my superiority for thousands of years, I thought I am stronger than I want to be, but I am not as strong as the normal human emotion of revenge(justice) ( by law - not crime). Kurdish people? Are you kidding? i am a Turk, my next door neighbor is Kurd, and we are friends... That is against separatists in the eastern border that live on the mountain and bomb.

[inventorOz84]

@leonhardw against bombers that kill innocent people, try googling news in turkey with following keywords: PKK bombed Istanbul, etc. and you will find it attacks innocent people, they are crazy minded criminals, and we put them in jail and then release them in lets say 10 years, we have been doing this and it doesn't work. so now, to prevent separatists go bombing us, we say,look, here is prosperity, take it and so be it... That is how we are trying to deal, military operations are against PKK!

[leonhardw]

@inventorOz84 very well. So you agree that military operations are ok against terrorists that set up bombs or crazy minded criminals.

Now i would say that is excactly what Israel trying to do with Hamas. And most of the time, these military operations are quite defensive and moderate. Like a blockade of goods used for building rockets for example. Now if someone wants to bring food and medicine into Gaza, why not use the available forces? Why breaking the law?

[leonhardw]

@inventorOz84 And what would Turkey do if someone instead of being quietly arrested (and released 10 days after, nor 10 years) attack Turkish soldiers? Wouldn't the Turkish soldiers have a right to defend themselves too? And if one of them died, that is tragic and to be avoided. But would the Turkish soldier have to excuse himself for defending himself? He also just wants to get out of it alive, right?

[inventorOz84]

@leonhardw

may i pm you? it is sohard to write here _ you are misinformed about PKK

[umlarmy]

Israel should kiss Turkey foot..

[freedomfighter01234]

Go to hell israel

[TheMuziekmann]

come on, Israelis gun down 9 unarmed Turkish civilians (humanitarians) and doesn't even offer an apology?

Countries used to go to war over actions like this....

[xxputerxx]

Long live turkey N palestine,Down with israhell.

[elanainisrael]

Turkey refuses to accept findings of UN report,Hezbullah refuses to accept findings of UN report blaming 4 Hisssbullaaah members of murder of Hariri - Goldstone apologised for his report and Hamas refuses to accept that report. So... it is OK for all of them to refuse legit reports against them. IHH deliberately provoked the attack - came to Israel to kill on purpose. They should apologise to Israel for their provocation. The blockade is in place only to prevent arms entering Gaza.

[xxputerxx]

@elanainisrael FUk israhell.

[elanainisrael]

@xxputerxx Obviously you do not have anything important to say - so when you haters have nothing to say you always, always resort to foul language. Come back with something relevant.

[etzel33]

It should be handled in international court. Turkey is correct here.

[elanainisrael]

Its funny, not ha,ha is that Turkey, has become the bully of the region. Apparently it is quite OK for Turkey to kill 160 Kurds the other day - they oppress the Kurds and what about the Armenian genocide? Turkey - double standards and forked tongue gobbly gook

[ultraturkishdelight]

@elanainisrael armenian genocide is a lie, if it is true why armenians cant prosecute us to international courts like jews and bosnians???also turkey killed 160 pkk terrorists not kurds cuz they always kill turks ...well israel have trouble with hamas but last years did they kill any israeli???cuz turkey is stopping hamas to kill any civilian in israel..israel should recognize the importance of turkey!!!!

[elanainisrael]

@ultraturkishdelight same way you deny armenian genocide so do Jew haters deny the holocaust. Just because you don't want to see does not mean that it did not happen. So, you say that Turkey only kills to protect itself against terrorists.Israel is protecting its people against terrorists- strange hah. Israel should apologise for the death of 9 individuals and at the same time Turkey should apologise for having ties with IHH and for promoting the killing of terrorists on the false ship

[ultraturkishdelight]

@elanainisrael no u r wrong ..holocaust happened and it was prosecuted by courts it was not voted by parliaments like armenians do cuz they r lying.turkey always condemned holocaust and always support foundation of israel n we r one of the intial countries recoginzed of israel..flotilla was civilian act it was no relation with turkish government there were different nationalitites israeli soldiers would not kill these unarmed turks and they especially killed the turks on the international waters

[ultraturkishdelight]

israel is the most fake country in human history.....

[tobigforyou]

I suggest Turkey and Israel kiss and make up.

If Turkey wants to be a significant member of NATO, you can't go around suing one of NATO's closest allies in the region, a country you are likely going to be fighting alongside someday.

[SMLIPRT]

UN has been turned into Joke by US and the Zoinist state....

[esther19741974]

@SMLIPRT what do you mean Zionist? most of the UN members states are by the way Muslim! Muslim and zionism are diametrically opposed!

[SMLIPRT]

All Sudden Isrealis who broke 67 UN resolution are talking about respecting UN resolution... Give me a break. These Zoinist will understand force and their time will soon come.

[esther19741974]

@SMLIPRT (Ezekiel 38:8, 11) a nation that has security and has laid down its defenses. When Israel's covenant with the Beast/Antichrist is in effect at the beginning of Daniel's 70th Week , Daniel 9:27a), Israel will be at peace. Possibly the battle will occur just before the midpoint of the seven-year period. According to Ezekiel, Gog will be defeated by God Himself on the mountains of Israel. The slaughter will be so great it will take seven months to bury all of the dead

[Javjean]

Jews rule. Suck it, trollers. 

[corruptscorpion]

@Javjean lets wait and see, by messing with turkey, israel has just cut off his right hand

[Javjean]

@corruptscorpion

I wouldn't say that, considering that Turkey was involved in the sending of aid to Gaza.

[BordoEnes]

MORON!! UN rapport also indicates that the murder of 9 Turks was highly unneccesary and wrong so Partly Turkey has won. The Blockade has a change of being removed at referandum in the next month for the recognition of Palestina which will make the blockade and Settelments,

Everything is against israel, just apollogize you wankers!!

[Redbaron9495]

Time for these naval and land blockades to end....those Jewish Settlements within Palestinian territories are a criminal act.

Israel needs to move into the 21st century......they are not the chosen ones

Time to go back to 1967 border agreements.

[blech143]

Go Turkey!!!!!

[JuanVoyce]

Israel should completely open the occupied territories to settlement.

[elazar79]

Bye Bye Esther!

[sevic333]

Go Turkey! .....Muslims will unite to drive out all Jews from Israel ...[Nostradamis]

[neo19158]

Davutoglou is the son of david a jew sorry but its all theatrics so turkey can be seen by the muslim world as a leader a role model they control both sides and they wage war by deception.

[Herb615]

Hope Turkey and Israel be friends again

[TheNova1960]

Israel has yet to apologize to the USA for the US Liberty! They take 3 billion dollars a year from hard working US tax payers, and use it to pay for their Israeli military to kill Palestinians and take their land. It's time to cut foreign aid, bring our troops home, defend our Constitution, and to build relationships with those countries that hate our guts. We have isolated ourselves because we can only support one country? Let's give Turkey a shot at friendship and free trade!

[esther19741974]

@TheNova1960 . Lyndon B. Johnson is gone and so is his Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, both of whom left the USS Liberty to its fate! Robert McNamara ordered the israelis to quote, "sink the g.. dam ship" sorry it was not the israelis it was the USA secret government! there is so much evidence now, declassified stuff and plenty of interviews! the USA ordered that ship sunk! just like the USA staged the gulf of tonkin! etc...

[esther19741974]

@TheNova1960 the Palestinians were originally called the philistines and before that were called the sea people and before that were the phoenicians! who use to fight with egypt! they the Palestinians never owned the land of israel, it has always been the land of israel for 4 thousand years! the land was given to Abraham by the most high God! oh your worried over 3 billion a year what about the 30 plus TRILLION your government has given the bankers? the bankers are your real enemy not israel!

[TheNova1960]

@esther19741974 My allegiance is to the USA not to the UN, NATO or AIPAC. The banksters? Yes, good idea cut them off too...When Americans have no jobs, food, shelter, or medical care it's time to take a good look at the bottom dwellers. We give the lions share of aid to Israel...why is that? Recently, 81 congress members went on an all expense paid vacation to Israel paid for by AIPAC! Israeli's are building illegal settlements and killing Palestinians, Egyptians, and Turks...it's not OK!

[esther19741974]

@TheNova1960 why is it israel's fault that, ", 81 congress members went on an all expense paid vacation to Israel paid for by AIPAC!" Israeli's are building illegal settlements? remember the 1967 war israel was very lenient to there enemies and handed back control of jerusalem! Go and look at the eschatology of Islam and tell me the palestinians want peace with israel?My allegiance is to the USA not to the UN, NATO well tell your government to stop funding all these us constitutional traitors!

[TheNova1960]

@esther19741974 Never mind you would never grasp any of my points...interesting that 8 other youtubers did! Try some research on Rothschilds to start with and Americans are all to familiar with AIPAC employees. You live in OZ and if sending your dollars doesn't bother you...fine! Clearly, you didn't read my original comment you just wanted to preach the gospel....EAT CAKE!

[esther19741974]

@TheNova1960 i have grasped everything you have said! you just didn't like my answers! i have done research on the luciferian loving traitorous rothschild! My Australian dollars going over seas? well just like you we also have the federal reserve system so my dollars are also yours its all from the same private owners! preach the gospel? well what are you preaching! remember we have the same enemies the central bankers! not nation states!

[9802972371]

@TheNova1960 plus the USS liberty, which Israel destroyed and killed 34 innocent american lives...

[Ma010S]

@TheNova1960 Israel killed over 30 American navy soldiers+they injured more than 170 soldiers of yours during Arab-Israeli war.I think they owe an apology to Usa for millions of the issues : )

[abbienetvision]

@TheNova1960

Did you actually write, "Israel has yet to apologize to the USA for the US Liberty!"???

THAT IS A LIE!! Showing that you are just a misinformed ignoramus or liar (neither is good.)

[TheNova1960]

@abbienetvision Israel told the US that it was an accident because we did not fly the US flag? A two hour attack with low pass fly bys...that's an accident? Israel didn't want the US to interfer when you were killing Egyptians!

[abbienetvision]

@TheNova1960

Are you trying to play word games and deny your words which I quoted? The USS Liberty was a mistake, a communication error, the Americans said they had no ships in the area, but they were wrong. The transmission to the ship from the USA was lost and not passed on to the ship. This is all recorded.

However, Israel apologized and paid compensation and to say, "Israel has yet to apologize to the USA for the US Liberty!" is a bold face LIE! Can't use facts, so lies are your only way

[TheNova1960]

@abbienetvision So, it's now a "mistake, a communication error" THE US FLAG was Flying! I wonder if Israel will apologize for the Flotillas and compensate the loss of those lives? And, I don't respond well with hostile name calling! Again, maybe their was another error in communication? EAT CAKE....THE USS LIBERTY was ATTACKED!

[abbienetvision]

@TheNova1960

USS Liberty was a mistake,and Israel apologized and paid reparations. The flag was not seen, with the USS Liberty firing on the planes, it was a friendly fire incident, one of many that happen in war.

Changing the subject to the terrorists on the flotilla will still not change the fact that you lied here and have ZERO CREDIBILITY, since you lied, without question. Israel apologized for USS, but self defense in the flotilla was no mistake.

[rhr1988]

I am sure somebody will post " when will Turkey apologize for the Armenian genocide, this genocide, that genocide etc etc " . Hehehe.....

[Javjean]

@rhr1988

Oh, and you're saying they shouldn't?

[rhr1988]

@Javjean

Off course they can (and should), but then again it would not solve anything. Each country (Turkey, Israel) will use their grievances to feel morally superior to the other.

[RIDWAN1337]

Gotta love the Turkish govt. for everything they did!

Now UN wants Turkey and Israel to be in peace again - those people who have been enslaving the world say this...

[chugalongway]

Israel leaders are driving WW2 buses with a destination which reads armongeddon.

[lumpfish99]

fuck israel......one nuke in tel aviv and the world will have far less problems.....the idf and mossad have had a hand in everything from 911 to this case.....and al jazeera you propagandist tools how do you sleep at night....???

[kawaiigardiner]

@lumpfish99 One could say the very same thing about Saudi Arabia and the $150billion plus spent on propagating Wahhabism around the world.