Three books by Christopher Hitchens that had gone out of print will be revived in paperback and e-book, the publishers of the titles said. Twelve, an imprint of the Hachette Book Group, will release the three books on April 10. The titles are “The Missionary Position,” a study of Mother Teresa; “No One Left to Lie To,” a best-selling examination of Bill Clinton; and “The Trial of Henry Kissinger.”
This guy is seriously the greatest modern orator. I will really miss any of his potential philosophical outlooks on future issues. On another note, in Youtube search type "Christoper Hitchens gets waterboarded." Yea. Fucking hero.
It makes me somewhat astonished at people's ignorance on both sides of this debate (think about that word especially "ignor(e)-ance." Especially when I see so many illiterate responses in praise and/or condemnation of others points of view... Learn how to spell before attempting to mock someones intelligence. That being said r.i.p chris, it is always a pleasure having the depth of one's conviction challenged and questioned.
if hitchens is so great why did he support the iraq war? and then at the same time called president clinton a "war criminal". And then was against the Libyan war. He's a flip flopper. Hitchens sounds like a demagogue to me who just liked taking contrarian positions to sound outrageous and sell books and make lots of money an put himself up on a pedestal.
Why do christians choose to ignore all the bits about love, tolerance and compassion and focus on gay-bashing, right-wing politics and telling women what to do with their uteruses?
Shouldn't they be spending their time volunteering in homeless shelters and tending lepers instead?
It's almost as if they're a bunch a hypocrites giving lip-service to a religion that they don't really believe in.
@asubjectiveopinion Absolutely - as I say, "For a religion based on love and tolerance, Christianity sure loves condemning everyone else to eternal suffering."
@wogolfer not true. I think you are getting confused between jewish and judaism. Einstein was an atheist but nobody denies his Jewish identity. Jewish people have certain genetic straights just like blacks or Asians. We have our own blood line. For this reason you cannot become Jewish by converting to Judaism. You have to be born into it.
This here is the man ^ if people at least listened to this man with open mindedness the things they would learn. One of the greatest minds to ever exist. I bid you a fair well christopher hitchens ! From an athiest to another
Absolutely false...you're blood line is middle eastern - not "jewish"....from the region of Palestine where there was much commingling with slaves, north Africans, Mesopotamians...there is no such thing as Jewish race. You are human beings, get the fuck over it.
Why is it that it's always the Christians who start the arguments here? you NEVER see an atheist go onto a christian video, and tear up the views of it, unless its one like "i hate religion but love Jesus", we leave you guys alone, whys is it that you can't ever find the common courtesy to leave US alone.
So sad to see Hitch is gone so early in his life, but at least these vids and recordings will exist as long as free human society exists. Kinda odd Jesus or other godly profits after waiting 100,000 years could not have waited another say 2000 to be recorded in such a way. It would have made their message much more powerfull or easy to dismiss. Go Hitch!
RIP You wonderful man, Reading through "God Is No Great" and I can't put it down, With any luck maybe just maybe (won't be in my lifetime) religion will be abolished it only divides us under a different flag anyway... Though maybe it's just a dream.
I think we are going to make it. I really do. We've either got a great future ahead of us or we do not. I can't help but live as if we do. Schrödinger's cat is out of the bag. Evolution has been proven to be a genuine phenomenon. Religion's keepers can no longer suppress the obvious. We do not claim to know there is no god, but we must insist that fellow primates can not know his mind.
@rugssean You know, I feel like praying for you right now ( and I am an atheist). I pray that your arrogance and ignorance would not contaminate and pollute thousands of more fragile minds. Amen
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I hope that poor man is not in HELL right now...may Jesus have mercy on this pitiful soul...I will pray for forgiveness for his arrogance and ignorance. MAY JESUS GIVE HIM PEACE
@rugssean No, when someone asks your opinion on something you can't turn around and say you lack humility when you don't like the answer. Why you may ask.
Because you asked for their answer and you got it.
@rugssean : Your point is moot. He showed his he has pride when he still REJECTED your biblical nonsense knowing full well that his days were numbered. Go back to your Church where the parishioners are expected to be forced to pay the law suit settlements ofthe molested children of their own community. Talking about getting screwed both ways. That's showing NO PRIDE.
Hitch was a great man, the ripe fruit of free speech and secular discussion, he wasn't always right, and he wasn't always wrong but he stimulated everyone who heard him speak or read his works. Sharp wit and mind now rotting in the ground, I'd say it was a shame but new thinks can't arise without old ones going away.
@Cypher796 If you look at his body of work, Vanity Fair and otherwise, you'll see that he has written about a great deal of things beyond atheism. I, personally, started reading his work before I even knew he was an atheist--I thought he was just somebody who shared my views on free speech.
@Cypher796 Perhaps he didn't go around with a false sense of hope all the time, or harbor fake delusions that make him feel comfortable at the expense of knowledge about his surroundings and the world at large.
Also, I presume by "religion" you mean either Christianity, Judaism, or Islam - I could be wrong but I will presume that for arguments' sake. If you're going to go there we can also talk about how it preaches that unbelievers should be killed, children should be stoned, etc.
What's ironic is when Atheists place faith in the belief that life is unintended, pointless, and that random mutation of cells advances species into higher forms of life, then the Atheist dies of mutation of cells.
@onefodderunit You completely misunderstand what Atheists think. Typical really, especially considering we tell your kind how we think all the time. And still you proclaim bare faced lies. You know better, and you know you're dishonest. Be ashamed.
Firstly, we have no faith. We have trust, knowledge and conclusions.
Secondly, life isn't pointless. It just has no reason to be. Its what you make of it, not what it makes of you. Thirdly, mocking the dead is cheap.
@onefodderunit So I say again, be ashamed. If there was a God and a Jesus, they'd be ashamed of you too. As would your ancesors. Your behaviour is dreadful, and you really should beg for forgiveness.
Have you noticed how the theists when responding on these Hitchens videos throughout youtube have since Hitchens' demise got a lot more hostile and antagonistic. Very Christian of them to show their true colours.
I've said much the same thing. Christians prey on the weak and desperate to fulfil their own selfish desire for converts. A christian approached me in hospital while I was there too. While the people in the audience were laughing, showing their agreement, I think from Hitchen's answer he shares my belief that it's more than a laughing matter, it's quite serious and quite offensive.
I've gone through a small (thankfully) part of the debate in the comments. There are comments that are fiercely trying to prove that atheists are pitiful, unintelligent (actually worse, denying intelligence), dimwits, and so on. This is unfortunate ofcourse for 2 reasons. Firstly, a true atheist has many lessons to learn from Religious texts & (importantly) their critic;he is never as described. Secondly, it just merely reveals the fundamentalist characteristics of any totalitarian movement. Pce
It always seems pointless debating religion on youtube, but what the hell.
There is a huge amount of hatred and what we would consider immoral in pretty much any religious text. The things that seem right and moral in society that are mentioned in said religious text seem to be cherry picked, whereas religious people never mention the savagery and hatred.
There might be something outside this universe, but it won't be any of the man made religions and there won't be an afterlife.
@emmetwhitey are you fucking kidding me hitch was a great guy even if you don't agree with him on religion or politics i would celebrate his death to do so is disgusting
We test and measure over and over again. We investigate and look at all possibilities. We have no agenda other than seek the truth. Something is either true or false. If you have no evidence to back up your claim then suspend your belief until evidence proves the case.
HITCH WAS A TRUE FALSE PROPHET, AND A LYING SOB, he has fooled so many and lead the naive to Hell's doorstep. Hitchen's was hard at work for SATAN his whole life, if Hitchen's did not repent his VIAL, despicable, EVIL Propaganda that flowed from his SERPENTS tongue then he will BURN in HELL, he will find NO PEACE even in death, I hope he did beg God's forgiveness.
All rational thinkers; don’t just come on here and argue with the brain-washed, so it makes you feel good and kills a few hours, but come on!!!!! In the name of Hitch, GET ACTIVE.
In the UK – start campaigning against state funded faith schools for example.
In the US - pledge to vote for someone who is open about not believing in God.
In both – Campaign against the forced marriage and the sexual mutilation of children in the name of a religion.
You can't blame religious people. Yes most will break free from religion the older they get, but for some it's a disorder like psychopaths and gay people. Some people will just live and die with their superstition and you just have to wonder what could have been.
@dawkins20ish I think you'll find it's the other way round, as people get older they turn to religion not against it just like Antony Flew who before Dawkins came along was the most famous atheist in the academic world. He was the darling of the atheist community, surprise surprise, he is now ridiculed by the same people who revered him. Hero to Zero, Fickle bunch these atheists !
@drage1862 "...as people get older they turn to religion..."
Why do you suppose that is?
"Antony Flew...the most famous atheist in the academic world...is now ridiculed by the same people who revered him."
By whom? And what form does this "ridicule" take? It certainly isn't ridicule to criticize someone's position, or to say that they adopted the position based on a poor understanding of science.
@GalapagosPete Dawkins was one of the first people to mock Ex atheist Antony Flew, accusing him of senility, which is disingenuous to say the least, Flews mind was as sharp as a razor up until his death it was science & recent investigations into DNA that convinced Flew that there was intelligent design, Flew had authored & co authored 30 books championing atheism & the atheists loved him, now the poor little atheists have had to burn his books in disgust. LOL
@drage1862 I am sorry to say that saw Anthony Flew in about 2006, the old boy was not in a good way certainly his mind was not alive enough to hold a public debate as he nobly was trying to do, when Dawkins was mentioned he sprung into action almost standing in condemnation it was a charming. But uncomfortable as it is Dawkins criticique stands, Flew was wrong to say Darwin was a deathbed conversion of sorts, and his conversion sounded like wishful thinking from where I was sitting.
@drage1862 if you are referring to this comment by Dawkins: wn(dot)com / Richard_Dawkins_on_Antony_Flew, then all that has to be added is this: If Flew got won over to deism by the books of Michael Behe, Flew is an IDiot and deserved all the mocking he got. Even in the gentle and polite form Dawkins used.
@TomFynn LOL I love it ! It appears that I've touched a nerve with a few people. Don't take it personally guys, you all obviously feel embarrassed that the worlds most renowned atheist changed his mind. I know it's very convenient to blame it on old age & I don't blame you for trying, but that ain't going to wash ! Next you'll be saying that Sir Fred Hoyle was an idiot too because he concluded after extensive research into carbon atoms that there was intelligent design. Happy Days !
@drage1862 As death nears some people bottle it! Flew's mind was also not what it was.....I mean how could it have been....he thought intelligent design was real when all EVIDENCE says it's not!
Agree, homosexualism is a disorder, but rejection of the Atheist faith for the knowing that only intelligence can design/create is a matter of commonsense.
Kobrakov sounds Bolshevik. Atheists are more likely to kill themselves than spiritual people. Isn't that because life has less value to the Atheist who believes it was never intended to begin with? i
Atheists are most definately NOT more likely to kill themselves than spiritual people. I mean, why would they ?? Lets face it, when the atheist dies he completely understands that life, for him, is over. No afterlife, that's it, end of. So to this end the atheist leads a much more enjoyable existence,...unlike suicide bombers. I don't think that you will find many atheists who are willing to apply for that job. Only religious fuck-wits are daft enough for that shit.
Bolsheviks were Darwinist-Atheists and murdered tens of millions of civilians.
An American Journal of Psychiatry article titled Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt had Atheists and Atheistic countries significantly more liberal with suicide.
An "AMERICAN" Journal...Well there you have it, the clue is in the name. America, where George Bush informed the world that God had told him to invade Iraq. As if an article published in America would say anything else...
America thrives on religion, and that article was specifically designed to blind the public and keep it that way. In other words, it was another cheap attempt, by the powers that be, to make atheism look bad.
You know nothing about the ritual holocaust (Judaic burnt offering) at Waco.
Are you still in denial that your Atheist faith rates your life as insignificant as a malaria spreading mosquito's? You believe life is an untended byproduct of whatever, so long as it wasn't intelligent, right?
Atheism is not a faith, it is a lack there of. And yes, I do believe that we represent nothing, on the vast expanse of it all. However, what we are is a highly developed, intellectual species who holds the capacity for intelligent thought. This has now brought us to the stage where we are completely aware of the beauty of nature, and the ability to understand something of her inner workings. It is called natural science.
Open your eyes, the days of a silly God are now gone.
If someone selects to take their own life, then that is up to the individual. Afterall, it is their life, not mine. I have no intention or desire to control anyone on that matter, just as long as they refrain from hurting anyone else in the process.
I am pro-abortion. Anyone who forces a rape victim to have the baby which her attacker left her with, deserves to be killed themselves,
Only FAITH requires blasphemy & heresy to enforce it's beliefs, not atheism.
Right. You're Atheist. You're of the demoralizing faith that life was never intended to begin with, and that it is nothing but a freak byproduct of a primordial chemical reaction.
What reason do you have to continue living - consuming nature, then defecating back into it?
You're of the faith that inanimate matter created life and you have no way of justifying your continued consumption and pollution of nature. You are Atheist.
@onefodderunit "What are you alive for, Atheist? To consume and pollute nature while you can?"
What a dimwitted statement. What are you alive for Christian, to kill other people in the name of a fictional character and then "consume and pollute nature" while thanking that figment of your imagination? It's not as if your belief in your God makes it so you don't "consume and pollute nature."
I'm not religious and you miss the point. Life is intended. Atheists are of the faith that life is unintended, and so pointless, but there aren't many volunteering to relieve nature of their pointless burden. Most Atheists cling to their pointless lives until their bodies expire. It's evidence that they are selfish, fearful and greedy.
Are you of the faith that inanimate matter is your creator?
@onefodderunit If you're not religious, then you are atheist. stop trying to pretend that you are arguing from a side of reason when you're clearly not, mislabeling atheism completely. Atheism is not a faith...period. We may not believe that life has a set purpose for everyone, but that's a lack of belief in something. Just as not stamp collecting is not a hobby, atheism is not a religion. By saying that atheists lives are pointless, you are saying that God is your only meaning.
False. One doesn't need religion to recognize that the only designer/creator is intelligence. It isn't Atheism versus Religion, it's Atheism versus intelligence.
Atheism is absolutely a faith. Faith that the universe created itself, and that inanimate matter created life. Lie to yourself if you wish, Atheist, but I don't recommend it.
@onefodderunit you need to check your definitions...intelligence is not a concept exclusive of atheism. If you think that's the case, you are both a very foolish and misguided individual. The definition of atheism is contained within the word: the prefix a- followed by "theism." Until you can wrap your head around that simple concept, i'm afraid any other argument with you is useless because you just don't "get it."
@onefodderunit ^read my comment and answer my question. Do you understand how the word atheism is derived? I'm not joking when I say that there can be no further progress made until we have established that you actually understand what this word means.
Yes, you have faith that the universe is an unintended, and so, pointless byproduct of whatever, as long as it wasn't intelligence, and you have faith that life is an unintended, pointless byproduct of a mysterious primordial chemical reaction. You're a Fundamentalist Materialist. An Atheist.
Do you have any moral objection to the extermination of unborn children?
@onefodderunit ahhh, making a strawman argument while avoiding the question. typical fallacies of persons of low rhetorical reasoning abilities. Coupled with the introduction of an irrelevant yet complicated issue that you paint as black and white because your feeble mind can't comprehend a more complex scenario. You've demonstrated yourself to be a defender of lies from the very moment you tried to hide the fact that you are religious. Done wasting my time here, troll :p.
Judaics are permitted to lie and deny their religion. You were informed that I'm not religious. Are you accusing me of being a lying Jew?
Atheism: n. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
Atheists are of the faith that no intelligence was involved in the design/creation of the universe and that life is an unintended byproduct of a mythical primordial chemical reaction.
Rejection of intelligence (the only designer/creator) is Atheist Orthodoxy.
@onefodderunit ^you should clarify what you mean by intelligence before going around throwing around the word, otherwise the meaning of your message is obfuscated. Unless that is the point, because you are simultaneously calling atheists unintelligent and pointing to the lack of belief in intelligent design. Any ways, I'm not accusing you of being a jew (religious doesn't = jewish), stop making strawman arguments - it makes you look stupid.
@onefodderunit hmm, you've actually got a point for once. I indeed did claim to be finished, but I responded again. That proves that you are a good troll, since you can get a reaction to me even when I've told myself "no more." You were actually able to goad me into responding. Nice job, I sincerely mean that. Stop goading me, I will no longer respond to your frighteningly ignorant comments (which you do not even attempt to defend after I shred to pieces).
It's another sign of Atheist weakness that you allow anonymous people on youtube to control you. The first sign of weakness is your gullibility in believing inanimate matter is your creator.
@onefodderunit No. It's your gullibility in believing invisible transvestites in the sky created you. Are you still smoking his transvestite cock, deluded Theist?
@onefodderunit its also an amazing lack of intelligence that brings a person to have themself convinced that an invisible man in the metaphorical sky created the world and so forth. At least people are trying to learn how the world came to be, not be stubborn and give up and just say god did it. Just shows a total lack of effort. peace have a good day :)
@onefodderunit I reject it, because I want to learn, be educated, further my knowledge not be stunted by a controlling faith that sprung in the middle of the bloody desert. I dont care if I wasn't created by some almighty being, question for you, why do we HAVE to be created by a god? It's like you're not even open to alternatives, all you think is that you're version is the only way.
@onefodderunit You seriously believe intelligence came from a mystical being.... you never read past those fantasy childrens books full of fairies and magic did you? You just contradicted yourself in that second sentence, you would have to be religious to believe a designer is intelligence. otherwise you would be athiest, as that is the belief in a lack of creator etc. Athiesm is not rejection, it will always inquire further than religion will. It doesn't have an answer but it tries, unlike you.
@onefodderunit you raise an amazing argument. All you can say is that athiests are dumb are you are not. By the way things are going, i highly doubt you have anything to show for the creationist cause. Ill take that 'you deserve to be an athiest cimment' as a compliment, since we are the ones who make progress, you just sit their sucking your thumbs thinking your special. XD
@onefodderunit if our design was so intelligent, why do we have an appendix? why do we eat and breathe out of the same hole which results in thousands choking to death each year? why is our eye so blind to all that in the electromagnetic spectrum? if we are god's children, how come animals are superior to us in many ways (except intelligence)? please think, is our design intelligent? or is it complex? two very different answers
By your own asinine 'Atheist logic'; If you create something, the design of which is incomprehensible to some people, that must mean that you do not exist.
your second line is just gibberish and to explain how matter 'transformed' itself into intelligent life-its called evolution. its a proven fact. the theory aspect relates to the specific path. what do you call it when rodents grow immune to pesticides? they adapt then pass their immunity to their offspring. that is evolution in its simplest of forms. by your explanation, animals will always be the same-never unchanging. whats more idiotic?
If the asinine Atheist belief that inanimate matter transformed itself into life were "fact", there would be no debate, would there. You're truly Atheist.
The 19th century theory of Evolution is still a theory because it's invalid.
@onefodderunit Finally you ve come to terms with the frustration that atheists face. evolution is a proven fact. religious kooks like you are so stubborn in your beliefs you cant see it. i dont think you know the first thing about evolution, you just claim you do. if you knew anything about it you'd see how it is based or logic and reason, not some bullshit thing about god creating it. i assume you believe in noah's ark right?
@onefodderunit i claim evolution is fact. i acknowledge the theory of the big bang as just a theory. may i ask if you interpret the bible literally? meaning you re a new earth creationist?
Evolution theorists have abandoned Gradualism, theory that animals gradually change into new species, for Punctuated Equilibrium, theory that species don't change, then do - quickly. The reason is lack of fossil evidence and the fact that no species are changing.
The 19th century theory of Evolution is invalid. You reconfirm that lying is very comfortable for anonymous Atheists.
Inanimate matter cannot turn into life. Only Atheists have faith that it can.
@onefodderunit listen i asked you a question. i dont know why i try to educate you when you dont respond to me. you just harp on and on with your own views about the world. now answer me. do you interpret the bible literally? are you a new earth creationist?
I'm not religious and hold no belief that conflicts with God given common sense, including Judaic supremacism, genocides, ritual blood sacrifices etc of the Bible. Question answered.
The Atheist faith that inanimate matter can turn itself into life is not based on a scientific theory. Do you understand?
@onefodderunit so you re an agnostic? and im not sure if i got this right but you dont believe that genocides occurred because of the bible? ill answer your question as soon as im sure what stance you have.
@onefodderunit ok then the only difference between our beliefs (in terms of a deity and our creation) is that you believe in a god with no supporting evidence and that i believe in the big bang which like i said was a theory so because you cant justify your view, dont discredit mine. and yes to answer your question i do believe that life could form out of matter. yes it is a theory but so is gravity. and i hope you believe in that.
Google "Einstein Letter Auction". In an actual letter which was auctioned, there is a quote ""The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
The book of Leviticus details the god of the Jews commanding Moses to instruct the rabbis how it wants animals sacrificed to it. It says it wants them to be young, unblemished bulls and rams, their blood dashed on altars, their bodies dismembered and disemboweled into listed parts including head and entrails to be made into a "burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the LORD"
That is the god of the demented, easily confused with Satan.
You really haven't a clue on science. First of all, the gravity is one phenomenon which scientist are still grappling with and do not have a plausible theory.
Secondly, amino acid, which is the building block of all self replicating molecules can be and has been created in labs. Lastly, animals don't gradually change. That's not how evolution works. Look up mutation and natural selection.
You can't make a cell out of amino acids and they aren't self generating. Remember, you're arguing that life is pointless, including lives of children.
It was never implied that Einstein was religious. He believe in a non-personal God which created the universe. Einstein also recognized and said he was "enthralled" by the historical figure, Jesus the Nazarene, which is terribly upsetting to common Atheist faithful for some reason.
@onefodderunit Well that depends on the athiestic viewpoint held by the person, as to whether this upsets them or not. In what way did he say/mean he was 'enthralled'
@onefodderunit this is if you interpret the bible literally, you realise that noah would have had over 20 million animals on his ark? you see how primative your belief is/
Article Excerpt: " . . . following a severe bout of cholera or dysentery, which can purge the gut of bacteria essential for digestion, the reserve good bacteria emerge from the appendix to take up the role." Barbara Miller, Appendix the safe house of good bacteria: US scientists, The World Today - Tuesday, 9 October, 2007
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Three books by Christopher Hitchens that had gone out of print will be revived in paperback and e-book, the publishers of the titles said. Twelve, an imprint of the Hachette Book Group, will release the three books on April 10. The titles are “The Missionary Position,” a study of Mother Teresa; “No One Left to Lie To,” a best-selling examination of Bill Clinton; and “The Trial of Henry Kissinger.”
manthasagittarius1 3 days ago
This guy is seriously the greatest modern orator. I will really miss any of his potential philosophical outlooks on future issues. On another note, in Youtube search type "Christoper Hitchens gets waterboarded." Yea. Fucking hero.
TheGonzd 3 days ago
I loved this video...
maheshc37 1 week ago
Fuck I miss Hitchens!
PPartisan 1 week ago 3
Especially, especially? - I think I need a thesaurus today...
samsonerickson 3 weeks ago
It makes me somewhat astonished at people's ignorance on both sides of this debate (think about that word especially "ignor(e)-ance." Especially when I see so many illiterate responses in praise and/or condemnation of others points of view... Learn how to spell before attempting to mock someones intelligence. That being said r.i.p chris, it is always a pleasure having the depth of one's conviction challenged and questioned.
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if hitchens is so great why did he support the iraq war? and then at the same time called president clinton a "war criminal". And then was against the Libyan war. He's a flip flopper. Hitchens sounds like a demagogue to me who just liked taking contrarian positions to sound outrageous and sell books and make lots of money an put himself up on a pedestal.
Freethinker12341 4 weeks ago
Hitchens is the God. Pray to him?
Amitt149 1 month ago
I love this man. I well yell it out loud.
MisticEditing 1 month ago 2
Im clapping in my living room right now
B4wnk1n 1 month ago 2
The Master at work. In his absence, intellectual discourse is impoverished.
frisco21 1 month ago 2
Why do christians choose to ignore all the bits about love, tolerance and compassion and focus on gay-bashing, right-wing politics and telling women what to do with their uteruses?
Shouldn't they be spending their time volunteering in homeless shelters and tending lepers instead?
It's almost as if they're a bunch a hypocrites giving lip-service to a religion that they don't really believe in.
asubjectiveopinion 1 month ago 3
@asubjectiveopinion Absolutely - as I say, "For a religion based on love and tolerance, Christianity sure loves condemning everyone else to eternal suffering."
Psychonaut1992 1 month ago 4
Class to the end .
crazyfox564 1 month ago
@wogolfer not true. I think you are getting confused between jewish and judaism. Einstein was an atheist but nobody denies his Jewish identity. Jewish people have certain genetic straights just like blacks or Asians. We have our own blood line. For this reason you cannot become Jewish by converting to Judaism. You have to be born into it.
drpiddleton 1 month ago
@wogolfer needless to say I am Jewish.
drpiddleton 1 month ago
what a badass.....a huge loss.
equallyeasilyfuqyou 1 month ago
God damn, I miss him...
gothkid287 1 month ago
SAYS THE MAN WHO HAD A JEWISH WEDDING
GewgleTubeExplorer 1 month ago
This here is the man ^ if people at least listened to this man with open mindedness the things they would learn. One of the greatest minds to ever exist. I bid you a fair well christopher hitchens ! From an athiest to another
MiloMatrataMusic 1 month ago
ProTip: Recognize that Hitchens was ALWAYS at his best.
ArcticB4Desert 1 month ago 3
Absolutely false...you're blood line is middle eastern - not "jewish"....from the region of Palestine where there was much commingling with slaves, north Africans, Mesopotamians...there is no such thing as Jewish race. You are human beings, get the fuck over it.
JimmysCrackhorn 1 month ago
Why is it that it's always the Christians who start the arguments here? you NEVER see an atheist go onto a christian video, and tear up the views of it, unless its one like "i hate religion but love Jesus", we leave you guys alone, whys is it that you can't ever find the common courtesy to leave US alone.
Xtrovid 1 month ago 2
I never get tired of listening to the voice of reason.
I salute you Mr. Hitchens and Mr. Harris
You are people to look up to for your intelligence, hard work and compassion for our world.
Religion is a disgrace.
sjatox 1 month ago
Hail to the King, baby! (Hitchens being the king of course)
regoljoe 1 month ago
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So sad to see Hitch is gone so early in his life, but at least these vids and recordings will exist as long as free human society exists. Kinda odd Jesus or other godly profits after waiting 100,000 years could not have waited another say 2000 to be recorded in such a way. It would have made their message much more powerfull or easy to dismiss. Go Hitch!
4070pind 1 month ago
"....well fuck that, I say....." and I don't really care if your offended.
dewpoint88 1 month ago
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I used to be an atheist. I'm now Catholic (about 2 years, now).
"Atheist to Catholic: 11 Stories of Conversion" by Rebecca V. Cherico is a worthwhile read.
megaead69 1 month ago
This might be my favorite Hitchens video! "Well fuck that is what I'd have to say" LMFAO!!!!!!!
Johnicle2 1 month ago
Good on Chrtistopher Hitchens!
FreeAnalyst 1 month ago
RIP You wonderful man, Reading through "God Is No Great" and I can't put it down, With any luck maybe just maybe (won't be in my lifetime) religion will be abolished it only divides us under a different flag anyway... Though maybe it's just a dream.
avatar43210 1 month ago
Out with a bang.
You the man.
theDuctapeUnion 1 month ago 79
@theDuctapeUnion CH you are right. He was the man, he really was. I guess it's up to us now..
etteridge 1 month ago
@etteridge
I think we are going to make it. I really do. We've either got a great future ahead of us or we do not. I can't help but live as if we do. Schrödinger's cat is out of the bag. Evolution has been proven to be a genuine phenomenon. Religion's keepers can no longer suppress the obvious. We do not claim to know there is no god, but we must insist that fellow primates can not know his mind.
theDuctapeUnion 1 month ago 2
@etteridge I guess it's up to us now ! Oh please someone pass me the sick bag.
drage1862 4 weeks ago
@rugssean You know, I feel like praying for you right now ( and I am an atheist). I pray that your arrogance and ignorance would not contaminate and pollute thousands of more fragile minds. Amen
Deimos820 1 month ago 37
Arrogance and lack of humility at it's best...RIP...you earthly pleasure-seeker
rugssean 1 month ago
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I hope that poor man is not in HELL right now...may Jesus have mercy on this pitiful soul...I will pray for forgiveness for his arrogance and ignorance. MAY JESUS GIVE HIM PEACE
rugssean 1 month ago
@rugssean No need to worry - none of it exists. He's dead.
Penfold011082 1 month ago
@rugssean no worries... Hitch wouldn't have wanted your prays to your imaginary friend.
wraith168 1 month ago
lack of humility, pride and arrogance is its best.
rugssean 1 month ago
@rugssean No, when someone asks your opinion on something you can't turn around and say you lack humility when you don't like the answer. Why you may ask.
Because you asked for their answer and you got it.
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@rugssean : Your point is moot. He showed his he has pride when he still REJECTED your biblical nonsense knowing full well that his days were numbered. Go back to your Church where the parishioners are expected to be forced to pay the law suit settlements ofthe molested children of their own community. Talking about getting screwed both ways. That's showing NO PRIDE.
llcasanova 1 month ago 3
What we do, is more important than what we believe in.
JoshLulz 1 month ago
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JoshLulz 1 month ago
Hitch was a great man, the ripe fruit of free speech and secular discussion, he wasn't always right, and he wasn't always wrong but he stimulated everyone who heard him speak or read his works. Sharp wit and mind now rotting in the ground, I'd say it was a shame but new thinks can't arise without old ones going away.
pythag123 1 month ago 2
As always, he's right on the money.
Tommyr 1 month ago
First I ever heard of him was his book about Kissenger. Its just illiterate christians that only know him from his atheist standpoint.
enlightendbel 1 month ago
@Cypher796 If you look at his body of work, Vanity Fair and otherwise, you'll see that he has written about a great deal of things beyond atheism. I, personally, started reading his work before I even knew he was an atheist--I thought he was just somebody who shared my views on free speech.
msmwkc 1 month ago
@Cypher796 its because 95% of the problems are casued by religion
lol479zzz 1 month ago
@Cypher796 Perhaps he didn't go around with a false sense of hope all the time, or harbor fake delusions that make him feel comfortable at the expense of knowledge about his surroundings and the world at large.
Also, I presume by "religion" you mean either Christianity, Judaism, or Islam - I could be wrong but I will presume that for arguments' sake. If you're going to go there we can also talk about how it preaches that unbelievers should be killed, children should be stoned, etc.
spartan0187 1 month ago
RIP Christopher Hitchens
crazyjacketsfan 1 month ago
Funny But True!!
millsbuckss 1 month ago
Ahhh. I respect his views immensely and respect his work but I believe God. What if he is wrong.
Shananaginns1887 1 month ago
@Shananaginns1887 Which god? What if you're worshiping the *wrong* god and the real one is getting angrier, and angrier, and angrier...
GalapagosPete 1 month ago
Lol. Nice one Hitchens.
haycockjeff 1 month ago
wonder if that is one of the last things he said. Fuck That
platnuim86 1 month ago
Haha i will miss this funny fucker.
TheAtheistAussie 1 month ago 51
@TheAtheistAussie Funny But True !!
millsbuckss 1 month ago
this man is truely amazing
mrjimmyjedi 1 month ago
LOVE IT!!!!!
rith5 1 month ago 16
@rith5
What's ironic is when Atheists place faith in the belief that life is unintended, pointless, and that random mutation of cells advances species into higher forms of life, then the Atheist dies of mutation of cells.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit You completely misunderstand what Atheists think. Typical really, especially considering we tell your kind how we think all the time. And still you proclaim bare faced lies. You know better, and you know you're dishonest. Be ashamed.
Firstly, we have no faith. We have trust, knowledge and conclusions.
Secondly, life isn't pointless. It just has no reason to be. Its what you make of it, not what it makes of you. Thirdly, mocking the dead is cheap.
andromidius 1 month ago
@andromidius
you wrote: "before instinct[,] came chemical reactions." -
Your choice of inanimate matter as your creator, rather than intelligence, was instinctual, wasn't it?
you wrote: "life isn't pointless. It just has no reason to be." -
What a common Atheist.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit So I say again, be ashamed. If there was a God and a Jesus, they'd be ashamed of you too. As would your ancesors. Your behaviour is dreadful, and you really should beg for forgiveness.
andromidius 1 month ago
Have you noticed how the theists when responding on these Hitchens videos throughout youtube have since Hitchens' demise got a lot more hostile and antagonistic. Very Christian of them to show their true colours.
harliquinz 1 month ago
he should have slammed the mic and said PEACE THE FUCK OUT
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago 3
Happy to, Buraz. Obviously, and rationally, inanimate matter created God. How else could he have existed?
RTSOB1 1 month ago
May he RIP. Ooops did I say rest in peace? He's dead and gone, and is devoid of all consciousness. But we still miss him.
ngusumakofu1 1 month ago
I've said much the same thing. Christians prey on the weak and desperate to fulfil their own selfish desire for converts. A christian approached me in hospital while I was there too. While the people in the audience were laughing, showing their agreement, I think from Hitchen's answer he shares my belief that it's more than a laughing matter, it's quite serious and quite offensive.
eratosphenes 2 months ago
Such a shame, he had such great hair when he had it.
HamIsDie 2 months ago
I've gone through a small (thankfully) part of the debate in the comments. There are comments that are fiercely trying to prove that atheists are pitiful, unintelligent (actually worse, denying intelligence), dimwits, and so on. This is unfortunate ofcourse for 2 reasons. Firstly, a true atheist has many lessons to learn from Religious texts & (importantly) their critic;he is never as described. Secondly, it just merely reveals the fundamentalist characteristics of any totalitarian movement. Pce
AMN3SiAc20 2 months ago
Hes so right religion is a fucking pantomime science is based on FACT!
fells1999 2 months ago
It always seems pointless debating religion on youtube, but what the hell.
There is a huge amount of hatred and what we would consider immoral in pretty much any religious text. The things that seem right and moral in society that are mentioned in said religious text seem to be cherry picked, whereas religious people never mention the savagery and hatred.
There might be something outside this universe, but it won't be any of the man made religions and there won't be an afterlife.
vilkwang 2 months ago
..are you a catholic? You are.. OK, you've only got a couple of days left, your last chance... to convert to Islam. Howsaboutit?
bigglyguy 2 months ago
Bravo Hitch!!
dkthg 2 months ago
thank god this piece of shit is dead !
emmetwhitey 2 months ago
@emmetwhitey are you fucking kidding me hitch was a great guy even if you don't agree with him on religion or politics i would celebrate his death to do so is disgusting
chrlskrkl 2 months ago
@emmetwhitey ugh you tasteless slob, you actually look like shit.
victorsossa 2 months ago
@emmetwhitey No, we're talking about Christopher Hitchens here; Jerry Falwell died some time ago. Did you just hear about it?
GalapagosPete 2 months ago
We test and measure over and over again. We investigate and look at all possibilities. We have no agenda other than seek the truth. Something is either true or false. If you have no evidence to back up your claim then suspend your belief until evidence proves the case.
stevjen1 2 months ago
Christopher should have converted on his deathbed. That way one of theirs dies instead of one of ours. Rest in peace, Chris
debnadaviebna 2 months ago
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HITCH WAS A TRUE FALSE PROPHET, AND A LYING SOB, he has fooled so many and lead the naive to Hell's doorstep. Hitchen's was hard at work for SATAN his whole life, if Hitchen's did not repent his VIAL, despicable, EVIL Propaganda that flowed from his SERPENTS tongue then he will BURN in HELL, he will find NO PEACE even in death, I hope he did beg God's forgiveness.
libertydogfight 2 months ago
rest in peace. your unique ´vinegar´´ spiced well my hungry brain.
dobste 2 months ago 2
@dobste
What makes you believe Hitchens' effluent which 'spiced your brain' was vinegar?
onefodderunit 2 months ago
man i will miss the hitch....we need more like him
lafontaine13 2 months ago
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Nassim Haramein... look up his research... EVERYONE!!! theists and atheists!!! (sacred geometry and unified fields)
Hamporkcheese 2 months ago
All rational thinkers; don’t just come on here and argue with the brain-washed, so it makes you feel good and kills a few hours, but come on!!!!! In the name of Hitch, GET ACTIVE.
In the UK – start campaigning against state funded faith schools for example.
In the US - pledge to vote for someone who is open about not believing in God.
In both – Campaign against the forced marriage and the sexual mutilation of children in the name of a religion.
Get off your behind and act.
BRIDGES102 2 months ago
Hitchslap!
austingwiz1 2 months ago
Goodbye, Hitch. You'll be missed, and that's the best compliment going. You've given us a very entertaining few years.
NevilleRhysBarnes 2 months ago
You can't blame religious people. Yes most will break free from religion the older they get, but for some it's a disorder like psychopaths and gay people. Some people will just live and die with their superstition and you just have to wonder what could have been.
dawkins20ish 2 months ago
@dawkins20ish I think you'll find it's the other way round, as people get older they turn to religion not against it just like Antony Flew who before Dawkins came along was the most famous atheist in the academic world. He was the darling of the atheist community, surprise surprise, he is now ridiculed by the same people who revered him. Hero to Zero, Fickle bunch these atheists !
drage1862 2 months ago
@drage1862 "...as people get older they turn to religion..."
Why do you suppose that is?
"Antony Flew...the most famous atheist in the academic world...is now ridiculed by the same people who revered him."
By whom? And what form does this "ridicule" take? It certainly isn't ridicule to criticize someone's position, or to say that they adopted the position based on a poor understanding of science.
GalapagosPete 2 months ago
@GalapagosPete Dawkins was one of the first people to mock Ex atheist Antony Flew, accusing him of senility, which is disingenuous to say the least, Flews mind was as sharp as a razor up until his death it was science & recent investigations into DNA that convinced Flew that there was intelligent design, Flew had authored & co authored 30 books championing atheism & the atheists loved him, now the poor little atheists have had to burn his books in disgust. LOL
drage1862 2 months ago
@drage1862 I am sorry to say that saw Anthony Flew in about 2006, the old boy was not in a good way certainly his mind was not alive enough to hold a public debate as he nobly was trying to do, when Dawkins was mentioned he sprung into action almost standing in condemnation it was a charming. But uncomfortable as it is Dawkins criticique stands, Flew was wrong to say Darwin was a deathbed conversion of sorts, and his conversion sounded like wishful thinking from where I was sitting.
srousex 2 months ago
@drage1862 if you are referring to this comment by Dawkins: wn(dot)com / Richard_Dawkins_on_Antony_Flew, then all that has to be added is this: If Flew got won over to deism by the books of Michael Behe, Flew is an IDiot and deserved all the mocking he got. Even in the gentle and polite form Dawkins used.
TomFynn 2 months ago
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drage1862 2 months ago
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@TomFynn LOL I love it ! It appears that I've touched a nerve with a few people. Don't take it personally guys, you all obviously feel embarrassed that the worlds most renowned atheist changed his mind. I know it's very convenient to blame it on old age & I don't blame you for trying, but that ain't going to wash ! Next you'll be saying that Sir Fred Hoyle was an idiot too because he concluded after extensive research into carbon atoms that there was intelligent design. Happy Days !
drage1862 2 months ago
@drage1862 As death nears some people bottle it! Flew's mind was also not what it was.....I mean how could it have been....he thought intelligent design was real when all EVIDENCE says it's not!
1THETRUTH10 2 months ago
@drage1862 Touched a nerve? No. Called out on your bullshit? Yes.
TomFynn 2 months ago
@dawkins20ish
Agree, homosexualism is a disorder, but rejection of the Atheist faith for the knowing that only intelligence can design/create is a matter of commonsense.
onefodderunit 2 months ago
@onefodderunit <<<< Pillock.
Kobrakov 2 months ago
@Kobrakov
Kobrakov sounds Bolshevik. Atheists are more likely to kill themselves than spiritual people. Isn't that because life has less value to the Atheist who believes it was never intended to begin with? i
onefodderunit 2 months ago
@onefodderunit
No.
Atheists are most definately NOT more likely to kill themselves than spiritual people. I mean, why would they ?? Lets face it, when the atheist dies he completely understands that life, for him, is over. No afterlife, that's it, end of. So to this end the atheist leads a much more enjoyable existence,...unlike suicide bombers. I don't think that you will find many atheists who are willing to apply for that job. Only religious fuck-wits are daft enough for that shit.
Kobrakov 2 months ago
@Kobrakov
Bolsheviks were Darwinist-Atheists and murdered tens of millions of civilians.
An American Journal of Psychiatry article titled Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt had Atheists and Atheistic countries significantly more liberal with suicide.
onefodderunit 2 months ago
@onefodderunit
An "AMERICAN" Journal...Well there you have it, the clue is in the name. America, where George Bush informed the world that God had told him to invade Iraq. As if an article published in America would say anything else...
America thrives on religion, and that article was specifically designed to blind the public and keep it that way. In other words, it was another cheap attempt, by the powers that be, to make atheism look bad.
Waco, Texas. Mass religious suicide...
Kobrakov 2 months ago
@Kobrakov
You know nothing about the ritual holocaust (Judaic burnt offering) at Waco.
Are you still in denial that your Atheist faith rates your life as insignificant as a malaria spreading mosquito's? You believe life is an untended byproduct of whatever, so long as it wasn't intelligent, right?
onefodderunit 2 months ago
@onefodderunit
Atheism is not a faith, it is a lack there of. And yes, I do believe that we represent nothing, on the vast expanse of it all. However, what we are is a highly developed, intellectual species who holds the capacity for intelligent thought. This has now brought us to the stage where we are completely aware of the beauty of nature, and the ability to understand something of her inner workings. It is called natural science.
Open your eyes, the days of a silly God are now gone.
Kobrakov 2 months ago
@Kobrakov
Atheism is total faith including in the asinine belief that inanimate matter arranged itself into life, human beings and human intelligence.
Atheists have less regard for life as exemplified by the general lack of moral qualms with exterminating unborn children.
Do you have any moral issues with suicide or abortion, Atheist?
onefodderunit 2 months ago
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uxBDV 2 months ago
@onefodderunit
No.
If someone selects to take their own life, then that is up to the individual. Afterall, it is their life, not mine. I have no intention or desire to control anyone on that matter, just as long as they refrain from hurting anyone else in the process.
I am pro-abortion. Anyone who forces a rape victim to have the baby which her attacker left her with, deserves to be killed themselves,
Only FAITH requires blasphemy & heresy to enforce it's beliefs, not atheism.
F.A.C.T.S.
Kobrakov 2 months ago
@Kobrakov "I am pro-abortion."
Right. You're Atheist. You're of the demoralizing faith that life was never intended to begin with, and that it is nothing but a freak byproduct of a primordial chemical reaction.
What reason do you have to continue living - consuming nature, then defecating back into it?
onefodderunit 2 months ago
@onefodderunit
Ah ha...
Still stirring and reguritating shite - instead of caressing your big dipper.
Ha haha ha
tellnet 2 months ago
@tellnet
What are you alive for, Atheist? To consume and pollute nature while you can?
onefodderunit 2 months ago
@onefodderunit
Arrah, sure begorrah and bejaysus and surely y'all can do better than that ?
How's the auld job going - Deprogramming Disciples of The Synagogue of Satan.
Must be hilarious ha ha ha ha
Keep stroking the big dipper there now, like a good lad.
tellnet 2 months ago
@tellnet
You're of the faith that inanimate matter created life and you have no way of justifying your continued consumption and pollution of nature. You are Atheist.
onefodderunit 2 months ago
@onefodderunit
Mighty stuff.
You are truly amazing.
A different version of gibberish.
You are truly the Shitemaster.
Well done boyo.
tellnet 2 months ago
@onefodderunit "What are you alive for, Atheist? To consume and pollute nature while you can?"
What a dimwitted statement. What are you alive for Christian, to kill other people in the name of a fictional character and then "consume and pollute nature" while thanking that figment of your imagination? It's not as if your belief in your God makes it so you don't "consume and pollute nature."
joe1234567890i 1 month ago
@joe1234567890i
I'm not religious and you miss the point. Life is intended. Atheists are of the faith that life is unintended, and so pointless, but there aren't many volunteering to relieve nature of their pointless burden. Most Atheists cling to their pointless lives until their bodies expire. It's evidence that they are selfish, fearful and greedy.
Are you of the faith that inanimate matter is your creator?
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit If you're not religious, then you are atheist. stop trying to pretend that you are arguing from a side of reason when you're clearly not, mislabeling atheism completely. Atheism is not a faith...period. We may not believe that life has a set purpose for everyone, but that's a lack of belief in something. Just as not stamp collecting is not a hobby, atheism is not a religion. By saying that atheists lives are pointless, you are saying that God is your only meaning.
joe1234567890i 1 month ago
@joe1234567890i
False. One doesn't need religion to recognize that the only designer/creator is intelligence. It isn't Atheism versus Religion, it's Atheism versus intelligence.
Atheism is absolutely a faith. Faith that the universe created itself, and that inanimate matter created life. Lie to yourself if you wish, Atheist, but I don't recommend it.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit you need to check your definitions...intelligence is not a concept exclusive of atheism. If you think that's the case, you are both a very foolish and misguided individual. The definition of atheism is contained within the word: the prefix a- followed by "theism." Until you can wrap your head around that simple concept, i'm afraid any other argument with you is useless because you just don't "get it."
joe1234567890i 1 month ago
@joe1234567890i
Do you deny you have faith that the universe is a creation of whatever, but no intelligence was involved?
Do you deny that you have faith inanimate matter crated life?
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit ^read my comment and answer my question. Do you understand how the word atheism is derived? I'm not joking when I say that there can be no further progress made until we have established that you actually understand what this word means.
joe1234567890i 1 month ago
@joe1234567890i
Yes, you have faith that the universe is an unintended, and so, pointless byproduct of whatever, as long as it wasn't intelligence, and you have faith that life is an unintended, pointless byproduct of a mysterious primordial chemical reaction. You're a Fundamentalist Materialist. An Atheist.
Do you have any moral objection to the extermination of unborn children?
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit ahhh, making a strawman argument while avoiding the question. typical fallacies of persons of low rhetorical reasoning abilities. Coupled with the introduction of an irrelevant yet complicated issue that you paint as black and white because your feeble mind can't comprehend a more complex scenario. You've demonstrated yourself to be a defender of lies from the very moment you tried to hide the fact that you are religious. Done wasting my time here, troll :p.
joe1234567890i 1 month ago
@joe1234567890i
Judaics are permitted to lie and deny their religion. You were informed that I'm not religious. Are you accusing me of being a lying Jew?
Atheism: n. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
Atheists are of the faith that no intelligence was involved in the design/creation of the universe and that life is an unintended byproduct of a mythical primordial chemical reaction.
Rejection of intelligence (the only designer/creator) is Atheist Orthodoxy.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit ^you should clarify what you mean by intelligence before going around throwing around the word, otherwise the meaning of your message is obfuscated. Unless that is the point, because you are simultaneously calling atheists unintelligent and pointing to the lack of belief in intelligent design. Any ways, I'm not accusing you of being a jew (religious doesn't = jewish), stop making strawman arguments - it makes you look stupid.
joe1234567890i 1 month ago
@joe1234567890i lies to himself: "Done wasting my time here"
Atheists are willfully. pathologically self-deluding. Leave it to an Atheist to need the word intelligence defined for you..
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit hmm, you've actually got a point for once. I indeed did claim to be finished, but I responded again. That proves that you are a good troll, since you can get a reaction to me even when I've told myself "no more." You were actually able to goad me into responding. Nice job, I sincerely mean that. Stop goading me, I will no longer respond to your frighteningly ignorant comments (which you do not even attempt to defend after I shred to pieces).
joe1234567890i 1 month ago
@joe1234567890i
It's another sign of Atheist weakness that you allow anonymous people on youtube to control you. The first sign of weakness is your gullibility in believing inanimate matter is your creator.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit No. It's your gullibility in believing invisible transvestites in the sky created you. Are you still smoking his transvestite cock, deluded Theist?
hislord1 1 month ago
@onefodderunit its also an amazing lack of intelligence that brings a person to have themself convinced that an invisible man in the metaphorical sky created the world and so forth. At least people are trying to learn how the world came to be, not be stubborn and give up and just say god did it. Just shows a total lack of effort. peace have a good day :)
mirkthirteen 1 month ago
@mirkthirteen
Intelligence is the only designer/creator. You have chosen to reject intelligence for the asinine Atheist faith in inanimate matter as your creator.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit I reject it, because I want to learn, be educated, further my knowledge not be stunted by a controlling faith that sprung in the middle of the bloody desert. I dont care if I wasn't created by some almighty being, question for you, why do we HAVE to be created by a god? It's like you're not even open to alternatives, all you think is that you're version is the only way.
mirkthirteen 1 month ago
@mirkthirteen
You reject intelligence, because you want to learn?
There's no religious belief required in knowing that the only designer/creator is intelligence. Atheist Orthodoxy is Rejection of Intelligence.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit You seriously believe intelligence came from a mystical being.... you never read past those fantasy childrens books full of fairies and magic did you? You just contradicted yourself in that second sentence, you would have to be religious to believe a designer is intelligence. otherwise you would be athiest, as that is the belief in a lack of creator etc. Athiesm is not rejection, it will always inquire further than religion will. It doesn't have an answer but it tries, unlike you.
mirkthirteen 1 month ago
@mirkthirteen
If you're dumb enough to believe that inanimate matter created life and is your creator, you deserve to be Atheist.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit you raise an amazing argument. All you can say is that athiests are dumb are you are not. By the way things are going, i highly doubt you have anything to show for the creationist cause. Ill take that 'you deserve to be an athiest cimment' as a compliment, since we are the ones who make progress, you just sit their sucking your thumbs thinking your special. XD
mirkthirteen 1 month ago
@onefodderunit if our design was so intelligent, why do we have an appendix? why do we eat and breathe out of the same hole which results in thousands choking to death each year? why is our eye so blind to all that in the electromagnetic spectrum? if we are god's children, how come animals are superior to us in many ways (except intelligence)? please think, is our design intelligent? or is it complex? two very different answers
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
By your own asinine 'Atheist logic'; If you create something, the design of which is incomprehensible to some people, that must mean that you do not exist.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit and by your primative christian view, if you cant explain whats going on, nobody can which means god did it.
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
No explanation needed for the fact that the only designer/creator is intelligence.
The scientific evidence that intelligence comes from intelligence, and that life comes from conscious intent, is endlessly observable and testable.
Try to rationalize your idiotic Atheist faith that inanimate matter transformed itself into life and intelligence?
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit no explanation needed. what a surprise.
your second line is just gibberish and to explain how matter 'transformed' itself into intelligent life-its called evolution. its a proven fact. the theory aspect relates to the specific path. what do you call it when rodents grow immune to pesticides? they adapt then pass their immunity to their offspring. that is evolution in its simplest of forms. by your explanation, animals will always be the same-never unchanging. whats more idiotic?
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1 lies: "its a proven fact"
If the asinine Atheist belief that inanimate matter transformed itself into life were "fact", there would be no debate, would there. You're truly Atheist.
The 19th century theory of Evolution is still a theory because it's invalid.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit Finally you ve come to terms with the frustration that atheists face. evolution is a proven fact. religious kooks like you are so stubborn in your beliefs you cant see it. i dont think you know the first thing about evolution, you just claim you do. if you knew anything about it you'd see how it is based or logic and reason, not some bullshit thing about god creating it. i assume you believe in noah's ark right?
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
The Atheist dream that inanimate matter is the creator of life has been at no time a scientific theory. Do you understand this?
You are claiming it is "a proven fact" that plant, insect and animal species gradually change into new species, correct?
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit i claim evolution is fact. i acknowledge the theory of the big bang as just a theory. may i ask if you interpret the bible literally? meaning you re a new earth creationist?
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
Evolution theorists have abandoned Gradualism, theory that animals gradually change into new species, for Punctuated Equilibrium, theory that species don't change, then do - quickly. The reason is lack of fossil evidence and the fact that no species are changing.
The 19th century theory of Evolution is invalid. You reconfirm that lying is very comfortable for anonymous Atheists.
Inanimate matter cannot turn into life. Only Atheists have faith that it can.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit listen i asked you a question. i dont know why i try to educate you when you dont respond to me. you just harp on and on with your own views about the world. now answer me. do you interpret the bible literally? are you a new earth creationist?
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
I'm not religious and hold no belief that conflicts with God given common sense, including Judaic supremacism, genocides, ritual blood sacrifices etc of the Bible. Question answered.
The Atheist faith that inanimate matter can turn itself into life is not based on a scientific theory. Do you understand?
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit so you re an agnostic? and im not sure if i got this right but you dont believe that genocides occurred because of the bible? ill answer your question as soon as im sure what stance you have.
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
I believe in a creator God "of a superior reasoning power" as defined by Einstein.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit ok then the only difference between our beliefs (in terms of a deity and our creation) is that you believe in a god with no supporting evidence and that i believe in the big bang which like i said was a theory so because you cant justify your view, dont discredit mine. and yes to answer your question i do believe that life could form out of matter. yes it is a theory but so is gravity. and i hope you believe in that.
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
Gravity is in effect. There are scientific theories for its cause.
Life is in effect. There has never been a scientific theory for the irrational Atheist hope and faith that inanimate matter created life.
Do you have faith that animals gradually change species, as per the 19 century theory of Evolution?
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit
Google "Einstein Letter Auction". In an actual letter which was auctioned, there is a quote ""The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
mimihanna 1 month ago
@mimihanna
The book of Leviticus details the god of the Jews commanding Moses to instruct the rabbis how it wants animals sacrificed to it. It says it wants them to be young, unblemished bulls and rams, their blood dashed on altars, their bodies dismembered and disemboweled into listed parts including head and entrails to be made into a "burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the LORD"
That is the god of the demented, easily confused with Satan.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit
You really haven't a clue on science. First of all, the gravity is one phenomenon which scientist are still grappling with and do not have a plausible theory.
Secondly, amino acid, which is the building block of all self replicating molecules can be and has been created in labs. Lastly, animals don't gradually change. That's not how evolution works. Look up mutation and natural selection.
robertoppenheimer 1 month ago
@robertoppenheimer
You can't make a cell out of amino acids and they aren't self generating. Remember, you're arguing that life is pointless, including lives of children.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit Einstein isn't referring to the judeo - christian god, even Hitchens explains that in one of his interviews.
mirkthirteen 1 month ago
@mirkthirteen
It was never implied that Einstein was religious. He believe in a non-personal God which created the universe. Einstein also recognized and said he was "enthralled" by the historical figure, Jesus the Nazarene, which is terribly upsetting to common Atheist faithful for some reason.
onefodderunit 1 month ago
@onefodderunit Well that depends on the athiestic viewpoint held by the person, as to whether this upsets them or not. In what way did he say/mean he was 'enthralled'
mirkthirteen 1 month ago
@onefodderunit this is if you interpret the bible literally, you realise that noah would have had over 20 million animals on his ark? you see how primative your belief is/
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@onefodderunit and you didnt tell me, why do we have an appendix? answer my question
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1
Purpose of the Appendix
Article Excerpt: " . . . following a severe bout of cholera or dysentery, which can purge the gut of bacteria essential for digestion, the reserve good bacteria emerge from the appendix to take up the role." Barbara Miller, Appendix the safe house of good bacteria: US scientists, The World Today - Tuesday, 9 October, 2007
onefodderunit 1 month ago