I rode some freight trains back in the mid to late 80's. It was dangerous but very exhilirating and left Me with great memories. I don't regret doing it while I was young enough to enjoy it somewhat.If You don't have anything going in life, why not take a chance? Catch Out.
you know who cracks me up? people who care about what other people are doing with their time. also, people who are condescending because other people do stuff that they are not interested in. if they free then let them feel free, why the fuck do you care what they are doing?
Those are the dumbest train riders i hate it when they talk about how free they always feel. there spoiled kids who do it to escape a life thats not that bad they're elitest train riders there pasive aggresive faggy hipster train riders god they piss me off. he says he doesn't like material things well he wouldn't be riding trains if it wasn't for material things thats what there shipping your no better than them just because you get your pizza hut out of a dumpster and don't pay for it....
@zakwani88 you know who cracks me up? train riders that spend their internet time looking up shit about train riding. you're already doing it, why are you looking it up on Youtube?
@cloudpaladin i'm not looking it up to get tips on how to do it i know how to do it i'm looking it up to see if i can find any videos on here that can show in the very least what it is like for people i know who have asked me if there are any good sources on the internet. also i appreciate the effort of trying to do a film about a dying american past time i think it's something that should be done you just miss the mark when you interview elitist wanna be poets like the ones in this trailer.
@765tony yes tony they take to jail for a few hours or even days get food crapy food but food shower and a trespassing citation and are expeld from the train yard for 6 months but you never asked for permission in the first place so you get on another train alittle more secretive and ride out of the county until the next time the catch you and stay away from the same yard until the 6 months are up but the bulls or railroad security team is known for burnig backpacks and other forms of intimida
Just don't get caught, shit... It's pretty easy to just lay low when a worker comes by. Cops don't give a fuck about train yards, just watch out for other hobos and workers and writers.
i understand riding freight trains can be dangerous, my great grandfather used to work for NS as a switcher but retired on disability after a box car door broke off and crushed his leg. still though i would love to ride one at least once,what would be the safest kind of freight car to ride in? box? intermodal? coal?
@MegaSuxification A Covered Hopper or Box is the Safest a Boxcar you need to find a track spike and wedge it at the bottom of the door to keep it from closing
Maybe I'm being dim, but why are all of the comments on this video people going back and forth with an arrogant yard worker who's only here to argue? Let the tool type himself tired and go away. Let's talk more about the movie, huh?
Yes, you can go to jail if you get caught. In the 80s it was cool with the yard workers I met, illegal but cool, as long as you stayed off the engines. Post-911, I doubt you will get much sympathy.
OMG WHY ARE KIDS POSTING these freight rides..jumping on the fly and there rides.. so stupid!!!! I SEE ALOT OF BIG MOUTHS....<---the shady lady country dirt bag forever...
@Revleftkid No freight train in the United States goes faster than 75 Miles per hour. Stey the hell off of our railroads, you ruin it for us ligitimat railfans.
There's more to life than working for a living, then dying. Some people seek more than to have a career and a house, and they are usually the ones who have the most exhilarating and wonderful experiences. So don't tell people not to take their own calculated risks, just because you're not driven enough to do it yourself.
@publicspaceinvader When you are trespassing on private property as these individuals are doing, you are no longer 'living freely'. You are living on the property of others who do not want you there. If you want to travel, do so in ways that are not illegal or in the way of myself or those who work for me in this industry.
Gas piece of shit? No fun in life? LOL. Wrong on all accounts kid. I just don't want to be responsible for picking up your dead body in the middle of my railyard.
@Boss302fan Good points. I forgot where I read this--it was before the Internets--a RR employee (UP, I think) found a kid dead in one of the big yards. Got run over and over and over.... "Living freely" my white ass.
@Boss302fan Hey BossMan, most rail rights of way were given to the RxR's. What a Conformist blob of lard. Stay home, watch tv, eat your HungryMan meal and then pass quietly away. No one will miss you. As for the adventurers, keep on keepin' on!
I live in Maryland and have been interested in trains and catching out for a few months now. I'm 16 now, "researching" and waiting to hop until I'm 18, out of respect for my family pretty much. I walk the tracks nearly every day and dream big of living out on the run.
@ronnieiskickin How about having respect for those of us who work in this industry and have to deal with you guys. Stay off the tracks and off of our equipment so we can do our job safely and efficiently without having to worry about killing someone. Instead of walking the tracks as a tresspasser, get a job on the railroad and see the countryside as a contributing member of society
I'd rather pay for a comfortable passenger train ride than hop a boxcar, get trapped inside when the doors close, lose a hand and leg jumping off, and hopefully getting thrown in jail before getting killed.
@stickdog100 the idea of it's very romantic, the reality is far different.. some of it is an excuse for not trying, it's not like the hobo's who were traveling simply for reason to find work. they were not out there to jump from town to town , they had to follow the crops and sell the soul to a company store.
110?? I'm assuming you have never been on or near a freight locomotive.. It very clearly states in a big ass impossible to miss stencil inside the cab : MAX SPEED 70MPH.. And uh, Ive been on the rails plenty, pretty much every day for the last 2 years... I get PAID to ride the rails. in a comfortable air conditioned cab, not sitting on top of dirty coal loads.
@MezzaNine26 actually lived on Ringling Train. what the words say and what happens is two different animals. not all rail systems operate in the same manners. seen freights in florida exceed this many times. I know what speed the train I was living on was going for reason I have a very accurate watch.
@circusboy90210 You have an accurate watch? And so therefore I assume you are assuming CSXT, NS or FEC have CTC systems where the signals are always a mile apart. Not so Joe. Your readings are not accurate.
@Boss302fan don't know where you get your "facts" that signals are "milemarkers" which many lines do have, or that they are inaccurate. my best friend in high school's dad was a railroad brakeman. even if what you say is true most people can judge speed I've spent many hours on a motorcycle over 180mph so speed is no stranger to me. almost got sucked into a train standing to close in florida must have been doing about 85mph.
@circusboy90210 I get my "facts" based on 30 years of railroad experience. This includes specifically working with Digicon's CTC system which is used extensively in Florida. In many cases those systems, depending on the particular line in question, are not spaced exact distances apart. In some cases they may be spaced miles apart.
I'm happy your friend's dad was a brakeman. I currently manage about 200 of them.
With your lack of experience I suggestyou stay away from fast trains.
@Boss302fan well my lack of experience @ the time was before I lived on the ringling train. however I lack no experience in trains especially fast one. been on accela few times many subways' etc...
Riding CNs whitepine sub in the upper U.P once a year is beyond words to me I guess folks posting here know what I mean. I have been doing this for over 10 years now.I have a Wife and Kid, a good job...but once a year just to hear the click, clak of the joint rails as the wheels spin over them traveling the country side is a fix beyond words.
if you choose to hop really do your homework. if you dont know what youre doing you can end up stranded or dead. ive met some people that have hopped across the entire continent and they really encouraged me to do it. and do plan on it. when i have the time and the knowledge to ride the highline in spring.
Ya gotta usually pay for those passenger cars. I'd rather just take care of myself and not have to depend on cash to get to where I'm goin. Besides, sitting in a cushy seat just isn't the same feeling. I like being slapped in the face by wind and feeling all of the little rattles and having these really profound realizations.
Well, I'm about 6'4" and 200 lbs. So, actually not a 'big fat' boss man.
But I am a 'boss man'. I'm a rail supt. in a joint served BNSF facility.
Which part of my post leads you to believe I'm full of shit? Both of the examples of what can happen to those who hop freights and get off in the wrong part of town took place.
As far as where you can find the real movie, I don't know and don't care.
And as long as you are capable of handling yourself when you suddenly find yourself surrounded without warning by a bunch of inner-city thugs who are willing and able to take your money and beat the shit out of you as a reward.
Or you hop into an open boxcar and the engineer applies the brakes hard and the doors slam shut. Seen that happen before as well.
I carry a weapon always when i`m out. Sure I could knock out probably any fag toys who think they`re so tough. But unfortunately metal beats body. And sir, trains RARELY hit the brakes so hard that u get thrown out. I see train workers hop on SLOW trains in my yard all the time. But ya safety is a thing to respect and take into proper consideration.
If hopping trains are safe...why do you carry a weapon?
So, your advice is...don't hop trains without a weapon?
And FCP, I am a certified engineer trainer. I know how trains operate. And I did not say they hit brakes so hard you get thrown out. I said they hit brakes hard and open doors slam shut. And I've seen this done at 10mpg.
You may be right about the doors slaming shut, but indeed you shouldn`t go without proper supplies. (protection, food water etc.) I`m up in canada so I don`t really have to worry about any stupid shit.
@circusboy90210 Yes. If I was 'hopping' a boxcar and the door was open I would endeavor to position the latches so the door was less likely to slide shut. Moving a boxcar with the door open is illegal in rail operations. If you stand beside a track and watch a merchandise train roll by you'll see those rules are often ignored. :>
Many of those latches that keep doors open are missing or broken, especially on older boxcars.
@Boss302fan probably it's that open box cars are easier to spot when in train assembly mode so that the person arranging the train will not have to wonder if the car is truly loaded or not & also to spot stowaways who should like for the door to be shut while still in the yard however there are better hiding spots than a boxcar though not as comfy but probablly not as likely to be shut in for day's or longer with no hope of being released, hence trapped & starved(dehydrated) to death. heatstroke
@circusboy90210 Switchmen depend on written lists and not visual inspections on spotting cars. Latching the door shut is strictly a safety issue. When railcars stop suddenly if the door is not latched shut it can slide on its bearings and come off the side of the car.
I'll leave it up to others who are experienced in this sort of tresspassing as to which car type is the most comfortable to perform this illegal act. :>
@Boss302fan seeing a number on the side of a car is visual, not all cars use electronic id's & many times these fail.
however illegality has nothing to do with morality in this question. hopping on a form of transport that is technically federal property leased to the railroads is a brilliant way to avoid poverty by escaping that territory to a more promising area should not be criminal, untill amtrack stops it's upside down pricing structure.look @ blues musicians leaving new orleans2 chicago
@circusboy90210 Seeing the nbr is visual, but switchlists that tell crews how to switch are electronic or paper. All railcars in interchange service are equipped with AEI readers and the failure rate is about .0001.
Railroad tracks in North America are owned by the freight railroads, not the govt. Except for the NE corridor, Amtrak runs over this private property. It is theirs and riders are trespassing and breaking the law.
@Boss302fan from what i've been able to gather over the years most rail is actually leased from the government and not actually owned. Amtrak is highly subsidized & has an upside down pricing structure that provides disincentive for rail travel in this nation on top of not providing enough service to where people actuallly want to go.. however hopping on the train itself is defiantly trespassing. actually been told railroad police (private company) have the right to shoot on sight if need be.
@circusboy90210 You ahve been told wrong. Almost all rail lines in the US are completely owned by the railroads and they pay taxes. The government owns very few properties outside of the NE Corridor. And no, railroad police do not shoot on sight.
Amtrak is subsidized and providing more service would only increase the subsidy. NE Corridor is the only exception to subsidizing. Amtraks routes are politically assigned and do not always make sense.
@Boss302fan I try not to speak without some amount of authority. railway right of way is leased to rail companies. the actual physical rails & ties are owned by the company not the land.Railway tracks are laid upon land owned or leased by the railway company. this is s wikipedia quote amongst other on the net. I learned this from ringling trainmaster. used to dodge taxi drivers in nyc because only federal police can enforce law on rail's or trains' it's federal property leased to rail companys
@circusboy90210 In NYC you may be right. As I mentioned, railroads in the N.E. Corridor run on track owned by the government. In most of the rest of North America the land is owned by the railroads. That is, land, track, ballast, ties. The entire right of way. It is not a lease or long term grant. There are exceptions. I am talking about the vast majority of railroad mileage.
@Boss302fan being a mere employee of an data company & not a a actual railroad emplyee i would not expect you to know that almost all rail right of way ( land ) is federal property. ths was something.keep this in mind while I was on the circus train . I can't say why here.
@Boss302fan Ringling actually bought up alot of private and large railroads back in the day , but never owned the lines as they were leased to the railroads they (the railroads) were given large easements in the construction of the lines (right of way) but never actually given any land . do some research . but being as your not actuallly a railroad employee this might be a little harder . not busting your chops here. but readers are not as dependable, unless changed in last 10 years.
@circusboy90210 I am a railroad employee of 30 years and manage a huge terminal operation. Railroads do own the land and pay taxes on that ownership. I've actually worked heavily in that area in the past.
@Boss302fan even @ the rate you claim for rfi technology aei vs the previous kartrak technology. 5400 read's are incorrect out of the fleet every time the whole fleet is cycled through the system a human being is even better than that. plus they can check for trespassers while on the ground. takes about a week for the average coast to coast rail journery & only 1 million of railroad cars are interchange. bringing accuracies down even further, according to aar. I could be wrong.
@circusboy90210 AEI is incredibly dependable. My terminal lives based on these reads daily. I have 50 on this property alone. The reads produce the paperwork and switch instructions for my multiple crews to break up trains and switch industries.
AEI cards are required on almost every car in service. Exceptions are in-plant cars or MOW equipment that are not interchanged. Even then, many of these are carded. Cars that do not read are marked to have new cards installed
And just how often is it that you are finding "beat up" or "dead" train riders any way...?
Presumably you work out of CSX/NS ATL...?
How many of these above mentioned injured folks are other 'trespassers'...? the distinction being that anyone cut in half crossing a train at a grade crossing or found beaten to death in the yard is a trespasser not necessairly someone who was riding a freight...
I assume you are talking to me. Maybe not but I'll answer anyway.
My experience with large terminal areas are Houston, LA and Atlanta. Over the past 10 years or so I would say we've encountered maybe 5-6 deaths. Maybe a hundred or so injuries due to falling off equipment, spraining ankles or violence.
My comments are only to back up the dude who said "it's not for everyone".
It isn't. And in some areas like those I mentioned you need to be careful.
I concur that it is not for everyone... I was just curious to know the difference in trespasser fatality statistics... tramps vs. local home bums getting killed...
Having been to ALL of the above mentioned cities by rail and walking to and from the yards I also agree that it could be potentially dangerous in larger metropolitan areas... the age old expression "the wrong side of the tracks" heavily coming into play...
I would say that about 90 percent of the time the victims were homeless individuals or those out of luck riding the rails.
My guess is that well over 1/2 the time those hurt were beaten by individuals they new. However there have been some who were robbed by "inner city youth". Miami is another tough area.
yeah i've ridden trains a little bit (about 2000 miles) and one of the most understated dangers of riding freight isthe danger of being attacked by another transient. when my friend and i were sleeping under a bridge outside of a yard in montgomery we got woken up by some FTRA gang members, they invited us to come warm up around their camp fire. But then they started getting drunk and belligerent and scary. my friend and i ran, and when we got away he explained that a lot of FTRA
members are killers, they'll rob you for your pack, beat you to death, then throw your body under a train to try to make it look like an accident. For reference, most of the people I ran into on the rails were homeless (usually age 35-50) and then the younger generation of train hoppers (usually age 17-30) are "gutter punks" anarchists and other social dropouts. Probably the smallest percentage of train riders are recreational thrill seekers like you see on youtube. Riding freight
was a really cool experience, but I stick with hitchhiking as my means for seeing the country. But the next time you're downtown and a really dirty guy with a backpack and dreadlocks and facial tattoos asks you if you can spare some change, help him out; he's probably a hobo. If you hopping trains always be aware of your surroundings, I would suggest carrying mace and a knife. Don't hop trains with people you don't know or don't trust either. Things can really get ugly out there.
@slamminhole69 any advice you can give me about this cause im about to hop soon cause i cant afford a bus ticket i need all the advice possible to do this how do you know what direction and etc......
Like the dude who was beat up in Hapeville (South Atlanta) when he got off the train in the wrong part of town. Our crew called 911 when they saw his body lying trackside. He lived..
Another dude wasn't so lucky. Beaten up and died from his injuries. Our crew saw his body and called 911, but he had been dead for several days. Ran into some trouble with the locals after hopping off the freight after a thrill ride from Macon. That was the last thing he did.
he doesn't say america is "famous for" those things, he describes those things as genuinely american. that doesn't make it any less specious, but there is a definite difference.
I hopped a train once,but only for about 5 minutes when i was 12.Hiding from the workers while they were checking the train had a good rush. Want to try it again,to go somewhere like Montreal.and another way but a much less safer way to do it is just hop on the back of a truck if your late for your curfew at night.Just go for a few lights and stop on the first reasonable stop closest to your destination.Shouldnt do it though.
oskorei123! i'm also from North Carolina. and i've reallllly been wanting to do this. maybe if you decide to do this(or if you have already..) you could gimme some tips? that'd be really cool if ya could man! thanks
hell yeah dude find me on face book Trent Bailey i am so down to do this!! since i posted that last comment i have hopped a train and it was such an adrenaline rush
All I can tell you guys is that while it may be a rush, it is illegal and can be dangerous.
And more and more lately there are people running around in railyards that are dangerous. There are areas where I send our crews out with escorts. I am not kidding.
You ride a train to Miami or downtown Atlanta or St. Louis and you get out and you just might die.
The difference though is that your crews have pockets and grips that contain wallets and money...
People in the ghetto will generally leave tramps alone...
mainly because we dont have ANYTHING worth stealing... and maybe also... they can identify with the desperation and necessity of riding trains and thusly we end up becoming more of a novelty then a target or threat...
get a trainschedule. their not that hard to come by. talk to kids on the street. wait at a siting spot and as soon as it stops hop on. or if you're willing to risk it hop it on the fly.
I rode some freight trains back in the mid to late 80's. It was dangerous but very exhilirating and left Me with great memories. I don't regret doing it while I was young enough to enjoy it somewhat.If You don't have anything going in life, why not take a chance? Catch Out.
WeRnotSchizophrenics 1 month ago
I am living a lonely life and there is alot of freight routes here in SoCal. Maybe I should just try this and get a better view on life.
JoeA320Pilot 1 month ago
@Roxgod666
We eat food just like you. Only we get it in more creative and fun ways than paying for it.
joeSQUARE666 3 months ago
@joeSQUARE666 yah by dumpster diving :D
BURNERUGK 2 months ago
I still don't get the point of what they do. Do they have a job, what do they eat?
roxgod666 3 months ago
you know who cracks me up? people who care about what other people are doing with their time. also, people who are condescending because other people do stuff that they are not interested in. if they free then let them feel free, why the fuck do you care what they are doing?
hope4anafterlife 5 months ago 2
Those are the dumbest train riders i hate it when they talk about how free they always feel. there spoiled kids who do it to escape a life thats not that bad they're elitest train riders there pasive aggresive faggy hipster train riders god they piss me off. he says he doesn't like material things well he wouldn't be riding trains if it wasn't for material things thats what there shipping your no better than them just because you get your pizza hut out of a dumpster and don't pay for it....
zakwani88 5 months ago
@zakwani88 you know who cracks me up? train riders that spend their internet time looking up shit about train riding. you're already doing it, why are you looking it up on Youtube?
cloudpaladin 5 months ago
@cloudpaladin i'm not looking it up to get tips on how to do it i know how to do it i'm looking it up to see if i can find any videos on here that can show in the very least what it is like for people i know who have asked me if there are any good sources on the internet. also i appreciate the effort of trying to do a film about a dying american past time i think it's something that should be done you just miss the mark when you interview elitist wanna be poets like the ones in this trailer.
zakwani88 5 months ago
@zakwani88 I So agree hahahaha
BURNERUGK 2 months ago
@zakwani88
You're sad.
Lettukaivuri 2 months ago
@765tony yes tony they take to jail for a few hours or even days get food crapy food but food shower and a trespassing citation and are expeld from the train yard for 6 months but you never asked for permission in the first place so you get on another train alittle more secretive and ride out of the county until the next time the catch you and stay away from the same yard until the 6 months are up but the bulls or railroad security team is known for burnig backpacks and other forms of intimida
erictoddbrown1 7 months ago
can't wait to hop my first freight train.
CapnSquigglepops 7 months ago
does anyone know a good forum or site to meet other train hoppers? Looking to try and travel with someone, don't really wanna do it alone thanks!
butterpoop 7 months ago
@butterpoop hey i don't know any forum but... i'd like to do it too i'm from italy were are you from?
summer is still young.
gatsu38 7 months ago
@gatsu38 from Fairfax County VA right by Washington DC
butterpoop 7 months ago
@butterpoop quite far away lol
gatsu38 7 months ago
@butterpoop try looking in the homless in any us town with a train yard and go for it you can only learn from a traind profesional
erictoddbrown1 7 months ago
I got a better idea get a FUCKING JOB and find a Real PLACE TO LIVE.
asoka2000 8 months ago
@asoka2000 yes now go to work and stop with all this internet freedom
gatsu38 7 months ago
Just don't get caught, shit... It's pretty easy to just lay low when a worker comes by. Cops don't give a fuck about train yards, just watch out for other hobos and workers and writers.
OsmosisDives 9 months ago
hopping a train is on my bucket list.
Th3B1ackDeath 11 months ago
i understand riding freight trains can be dangerous, my great grandfather used to work for NS as a switcher but retired on disability after a box car door broke off and crushed his leg. still though i would love to ride one at least once,what would be the safest kind of freight car to ride in? box? intermodal? coal?
MegaSuxification 11 months ago
@MegaSuxification A Covered Hopper or Box is the Safest a Boxcar you need to find a track spike and wedge it at the bottom of the door to keep it from closing
TheBreeze2000 10 months ago
Maybe I'm being dim, but why are all of the comments on this video people going back and forth with an arrogant yard worker who's only here to argue? Let the tool type himself tired and go away. Let's talk more about the movie, huh?
poundcommapound 11 months ago
can u go to jail if you get caught?any advice is appreciated thanks.
QP4ozHP8oz 11 months ago
@QP4ozHP8oz
Yes, you can go to jail if you get caught. In the 80s it was cool with the yard workers I met, illegal but cool, as long as you stayed off the engines. Post-911, I doubt you will get much sympathy.
smuuuuuuuth 11 months ago
@smuuuuuuuth 9-11 wasnt the train riders fualt it was the US government
TheBreeze2000 10 months ago 2
@QP4ozHP8oz yes either Trespassing or interference with RR property
TheBreeze2000 10 months ago
This documentary looks amazing. catching out definitely changes your perspective on things.
Daim1292 1 year ago
Plenty of non americans have sex in cars..I'm guessing this guy has a very narrow view of life outside of america.
mooneepondskid 1 year ago
OMG WHY ARE KIDS POSTING these freight rides..jumping on the fly and there rides.. so stupid!!!! I SEE ALOT OF BIG MOUTHS....<---the shady lady country dirt bag forever...
madcatchazel 1 year ago
@Revleftkid No freight train in the United States goes faster than 75 Miles per hour. Stey the hell off of our railroads, you ruin it for us ligitimat railfans.
trainman2816 1 year ago
@trainman2816
There's more to life than working for a living, then dying. Some people seek more than to have a career and a house, and they are usually the ones who have the most exhilarating and wonderful experiences. So don't tell people not to take their own calculated risks, just because you're not driven enough to do it yourself.
wardy2294 1 year ago 8
@publicspaceinvader When you are trespassing on private property as these individuals are doing, you are no longer 'living freely'. You are living on the property of others who do not want you there. If you want to travel, do so in ways that are not illegal or in the way of myself or those who work for me in this industry.
Gas piece of shit? No fun in life? LOL. Wrong on all accounts kid. I just don't want to be responsible for picking up your dead body in the middle of my railyard.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan Good points. I forgot where I read this--it was before the Internets--a RR employee (UP, I think) found a kid dead in one of the big yards. Got run over and over and over.... "Living freely" my white ass.
cochranexyz 1 year ago
@cochranexyz yea but one thing about it the kid didnt die alone of old age in a rest home......
MegaSuxification 1 year ago
@Boss302fan Hey BossMan, most rail rights of way were given to the RxR's. What a Conformist blob of lard. Stay home, watch tv, eat your HungryMan meal and then pass quietly away. No one will miss you. As for the adventurers, keep on keepin' on!
jakebarnes28 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA yallz iz dumb
kill666kkkopz 1 year ago
Lol, is it just me, or does it sound like she's singing a song at the beginning of this video?.
tsilavivrus 1 year ago
I live in Maryland and have been interested in trains and catching out for a few months now. I'm 16 now, "researching" and waiting to hop until I'm 18, out of respect for my family pretty much. I walk the tracks nearly every day and dream big of living out on the run.
ronnieiskickin 1 year ago 18
@ronnieiskickin do it. for everything holding you back now there will be 10 things by the time you're 26 and 20 things but the time you're 36
myroncope 1 year ago 2
@ronnieiskickin How about having respect for those of us who work in this industry and have to deal with you guys. Stay off the tracks and off of our equipment so we can do our job safely and efficiently without having to worry about killing someone. Instead of walking the tracks as a tresspasser, get a job on the railroad and see the countryside as a contributing member of society
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@ronnieiskickin fuck do not wait run for it have fun you live once
erictoddbrown1 7 months ago
@ronnieiskickin hey Im might see you out there haha
bob1sded 5 months ago
I'd rather pay for a comfortable passenger train ride than hop a boxcar, get trapped inside when the doors close, lose a hand and leg jumping off, and hopefully getting thrown in jail before getting killed.
stickdog100 1 year ago
@stickdog100 the idea of it's very romantic, the reality is far different.. some of it is an excuse for not trying, it's not like the hobo's who were traveling simply for reason to find work. they were not out there to jump from town to town , they had to follow the crops and sell the soul to a company store.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@stickdog100 thats a very bleak insight.
dipmuthafukinset 1 year ago
@Revleftkid Dunno what trains your hopping.. Freight train maximum speed is 70mph.
MezzaNine26 1 year ago
@MezzaNine26 no in reality. have seen freights go up to 110. and on .. forget it you've never been on the rails.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210
110?? I'm assuming you have never been on or near a freight locomotive.. It very clearly states in a big ass impossible to miss stencil inside the cab : MAX SPEED 70MPH.. And uh, Ive been on the rails plenty, pretty much every day for the last 2 years... I get PAID to ride the rails. in a comfortable air conditioned cab, not sitting on top of dirty coal loads.
MezzaNine26 1 year ago
@MezzaNine26 actually lived on Ringling Train. what the words say and what happens is two different animals. not all rail systems operate in the same manners. seen freights in florida exceed this many times. I know what speed the train I was living on was going for reason I have a very accurate watch.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 You have an accurate watch? And so therefore I assume you are assuming CSXT, NS or FEC have CTC systems where the signals are always a mile apart. Not so Joe. Your readings are not accurate.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan don't know where you get your "facts" that signals are "milemarkers" which many lines do have, or that they are inaccurate. my best friend in high school's dad was a railroad brakeman. even if what you say is true most people can judge speed I've spent many hours on a motorcycle over 180mph so speed is no stranger to me. almost got sucked into a train standing to close in florida must have been doing about 85mph.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 I get my "facts" based on 30 years of railroad experience. This includes specifically working with Digicon's CTC system which is used extensively in Florida. In many cases those systems, depending on the particular line in question, are not spaced exact distances apart. In some cases they may be spaced miles apart.
I'm happy your friend's dad was a brakeman. I currently manage about 200 of them.
With your lack of experience I suggestyou stay away from fast trains.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan well my lack of experience @ the time was before I lived on the ringling train. however I lack no experience in trains especially fast one. been on accela few times many subways' etc...
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 You lived on the train? Now that's cool. I envy you.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@MezzaNine26 However I do agree most freihts don't go that fast.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@MezzaNine26 oh for the record yes and been in many cabs, at many rail yards. though it's been like 15 years.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
For anyone interested in this, I recommend the book "Rolling Nowhere" by Ted Connover; he hopped freights and wrote about it.
seahawks847 1 year ago
Riding CNs whitepine sub in the upper U.P once a year is beyond words to me I guess folks posting here know what I mean. I have been doing this for over 10 years now.I have a Wife and Kid, a good job...but once a year just to hear the click, clak of the joint rails as the wheels spin over them traveling the country side is a fix beyond words.
skottkoonz 1 year ago
i envy these people
brokeskater86 1 year ago
i cant do this cause i take meds but i used to skydive and i think doing something like this would be exhilarating
smo1765 1 year ago
i did it from 18-21 now im 27 and im doing it very soon im in iowa, its easy to bail from des moines. my advice... if your a idjet... don't attempt
ziehe666 1 year ago
im just going to do it one day. who wants to come with me? i live in baltimore and i see hobo ppl all the time
mattedda 1 year ago
just got this movie, i ove it soo much
Websters52 2 years ago
does anyone know a good source of info for hopping trains?
Ronin0212 2 years ago
the movie catching out, get hold of a crew change guide
Websters52 2 years ago
an experienced teacher
nihilism80 2 years ago
Gotta do it on your own brotha. Learn your own.
MrTwiztidJuggalo 1 year ago
if you choose to hop really do your homework. if you dont know what youre doing you can end up stranded or dead. ive met some people that have hopped across the entire continent and they really encouraged me to do it. and do plan on it. when i have the time and the knowledge to ride the highline in spring.
EON352 2 years ago
i think im going to finally do it!!
lalafree2express 2 years ago
yeee
JWC312 2 years ago
Its a good film! Y'all should check it out if you have to ability to.
You also might like some of my train videos.
widerstand 2 years ago
nice graffiti there
Noid193 2 years ago
Ya gotta usually pay for those passenger cars. I'd rather just take care of myself and not have to depend on cash to get to where I'm goin. Besides, sitting in a cushy seat just isn't the same feeling. I like being slapped in the face by wind and feeling all of the little rattles and having these really profound realizations.
LovexandxRage 2 years ago 5
Why not
Noid193 2 years ago
Shut up. If your careful its all good.
Noid193 2 years ago
If you have nothing good to say then shut up
WarioDS 2 years ago
yeah I think there is the chance of jailtime but it is unlikely
Masteroftuba3 2 years ago 3
sick graff
8mileronaldo7 2 years ago 2
look at how dangerous those felons look
doghairedinfant 2 years ago
felons
doghairedinfant 2 years ago
@doghairedinfant Misdermeanor's
06chevyboy 2 years ago
life is dangerous period. bad things happen to "normal" people living "normal" lives every day...my anxiety's just too bad.
RoseWhiteRoseRed 2 years ago
to bad some of the cast didnt get paid, I hear the producer and crew made a ton of money on the film and screwd the cast. Oh Well Karmas a Bitch.
ffg4th 2 years ago 3
Nice freight graffiti ART there too.
FreightCarPainter 2 years ago 2
this isnt hard at all, i got drunk today and hopped like four trains and just rode around my city.
subzerotime420 2 years ago
Wow. A real intellect. I'm impressed. You really demonstrate to those reading this what a persuasive individual you are.
Boss302fan 2 years ago 2
Well, I'm about 6'4" and 200 lbs. So, actually not a 'big fat' boss man.
But I am a 'boss man'. I'm a rail supt. in a joint served BNSF facility.
Which part of my post leads you to believe I'm full of shit? Both of the examples of what can happen to those who hop freights and get off in the wrong part of town took place.
As far as where you can find the real movie, I don't know and don't care.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
HOPPING TRAINS IS SAFE! As long as your good at it and know not to fuck up.
FreightCarPainter 2 years ago 4
And as long as you are capable of handling yourself when you suddenly find yourself surrounded without warning by a bunch of inner-city thugs who are willing and able to take your money and beat the shit out of you as a reward.
Or you hop into an open boxcar and the engineer applies the brakes hard and the doors slam shut. Seen that happen before as well.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
I carry a weapon always when i`m out. Sure I could knock out probably any fag toys who think they`re so tough. But unfortunately metal beats body. And sir, trains RARELY hit the brakes so hard that u get thrown out. I see train workers hop on SLOW trains in my yard all the time. But ya safety is a thing to respect and take into proper consideration.
FreightCarPainter 2 years ago
If hopping trains are safe...why do you carry a weapon?
So, your advice is...don't hop trains without a weapon?
And FCP, I am a certified engineer trainer. I know how trains operate. And I did not say they hit brakes so hard you get thrown out. I said they hit brakes hard and open doors slam shut. And I've seen this done at 10mpg.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
You may be right about the doors slaming shut, but indeed you shouldn`t go without proper supplies. (protection, food water etc.) I`m up in canada so I don`t really have to worry about any stupid shit.
FreightCarPainter 2 years ago
so u dont hafta pay for a ticket then?
crossbar6 2 years ago
@Boss302fan good way to avoid that is to lock it open???
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 Yes. If I was 'hopping' a boxcar and the door was open I would endeavor to position the latches so the door was less likely to slide shut. Moving a boxcar with the door open is illegal in rail operations. If you stand beside a track and watch a merchandise train roll by you'll see those rules are often ignored. :>
Many of those latches that keep doors open are missing or broken, especially on older boxcars.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan probably it's that open box cars are easier to spot when in train assembly mode so that the person arranging the train will not have to wonder if the car is truly loaded or not & also to spot stowaways who should like for the door to be shut while still in the yard however there are better hiding spots than a boxcar though not as comfy but probablly not as likely to be shut in for day's or longer with no hope of being released, hence trapped & starved(dehydrated) to death. heatstroke
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 Switchmen depend on written lists and not visual inspections on spotting cars. Latching the door shut is strictly a safety issue. When railcars stop suddenly if the door is not latched shut it can slide on its bearings and come off the side of the car.
I'll leave it up to others who are experienced in this sort of tresspassing as to which car type is the most comfortable to perform this illegal act. :>
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan seeing a number on the side of a car is visual, not all cars use electronic id's & many times these fail.
however illegality has nothing to do with morality in this question. hopping on a form of transport that is technically federal property leased to the railroads is a brilliant way to avoid poverty by escaping that territory to a more promising area should not be criminal, untill amtrack stops it's upside down pricing structure.look @ blues musicians leaving new orleans2 chicago
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 Seeing the nbr is visual, but switchlists that tell crews how to switch are electronic or paper. All railcars in interchange service are equipped with AEI readers and the failure rate is about .0001.
Railroad tracks in North America are owned by the freight railroads, not the govt. Except for the NE corridor, Amtrak runs over this private property. It is theirs and riders are trespassing and breaking the law.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan from what i've been able to gather over the years most rail is actually leased from the government and not actually owned. Amtrak is highly subsidized & has an upside down pricing structure that provides disincentive for rail travel in this nation on top of not providing enough service to where people actuallly want to go.. however hopping on the train itself is defiantly trespassing. actually been told railroad police (private company) have the right to shoot on sight if need be.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 You ahve been told wrong. Almost all rail lines in the US are completely owned by the railroads and they pay taxes. The government owns very few properties outside of the NE Corridor. And no, railroad police do not shoot on sight.
Amtrak is subsidized and providing more service would only increase the subsidy. NE Corridor is the only exception to subsidizing. Amtraks routes are politically assigned and do not always make sense.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan I try not to speak without some amount of authority. railway right of way is leased to rail companies. the actual physical rails & ties are owned by the company not the land.Railway tracks are laid upon land owned or leased by the railway company. this is s wikipedia quote amongst other on the net. I learned this from ringling trainmaster. used to dodge taxi drivers in nyc because only federal police can enforce law on rail's or trains' it's federal property leased to rail companys
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 In NYC you may be right. As I mentioned, railroads in the N.E. Corridor run on track owned by the government. In most of the rest of North America the land is owned by the railroads. That is, land, track, ballast, ties. The entire right of way. It is not a lease or long term grant. There are exceptions. I am talking about the vast majority of railroad mileage.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan being a mere employee of an data company & not a a actual railroad emplyee i would not expect you to know that almost all rail right of way ( land ) is federal property. ths was something.keep this in mind while I was on the circus train . I can't say why here.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@Boss302fan Ringling actually bought up alot of private and large railroads back in the day , but never owned the lines as they were leased to the railroads they (the railroads) were given large easements in the construction of the lines (right of way) but never actually given any land . do some research . but being as your not actuallly a railroad employee this might be a little harder . not busting your chops here. but readers are not as dependable, unless changed in last 10 years.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 I am a railroad employee of 30 years and manage a huge terminal operation. Railroads do own the land and pay taxes on that ownership. I've actually worked heavily in that area in the past.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan even @ the rate you claim for rfi technology aei vs the previous kartrak technology. 5400 read's are incorrect out of the fleet every time the whole fleet is cycled through the system a human being is even better than that. plus they can check for trespassers while on the ground. takes about a week for the average coast to coast rail journery & only 1 million of railroad cars are interchange. bringing accuracies down even further, according to aar. I could be wrong.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 AEI is incredibly dependable. My terminal lives based on these reads daily. I have 50 on this property alone. The reads produce the paperwork and switch instructions for my multiple crews to break up trains and switch industries.
AEI cards are required on almost every car in service. Exceptions are in-plant cars or MOW equipment that are not interchanged. Even then, many of these are carded. Cars that do not read are marked to have new cards installed
Boss302fan 1 year ago
yooo i live in california i wanna go up to portland and then were ever anyone wanna join
insect66 2 years ago
And just how often is it that you are finding "beat up" or "dead" train riders any way...?
Presumably you work out of CSX/NS ATL...?
How many of these above mentioned injured folks are other 'trespassers'...? the distinction being that anyone cut in half crossing a train at a grade crossing or found beaten to death in the yard is a trespasser not necessairly someone who was riding a freight...
agencyfilms 2 years ago
I assume you are talking to me. Maybe not but I'll answer anyway.
My experience with large terminal areas are Houston, LA and Atlanta. Over the past 10 years or so I would say we've encountered maybe 5-6 deaths. Maybe a hundred or so injuries due to falling off equipment, spraining ankles or violence.
My comments are only to back up the dude who said "it's not for everyone".
It isn't. And in some areas like those I mentioned you need to be careful.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
I concur that it is not for everyone... I was just curious to know the difference in trespasser fatality statistics... tramps vs. local home bums getting killed...
Having been to ALL of the above mentioned cities by rail and walking to and from the yards I also agree that it could be potentially dangerous in larger metropolitan areas... the age old expression "the wrong side of the tracks" heavily coming into play...
agencyfilms 2 years ago
I would say that about 90 percent of the time the victims were homeless individuals or those out of luck riding the rails.
My guess is that well over 1/2 the time those hurt were beaten by individuals they new. However there have been some who were robbed by "inner city youth". Miami is another tough area.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
@Boss302fan
yeah i've ridden trains a little bit (about 2000 miles) and one of the most understated dangers of riding freight isthe danger of being attacked by another transient. when my friend and i were sleeping under a bridge outside of a yard in montgomery we got woken up by some FTRA gang members, they invited us to come warm up around their camp fire. But then they started getting drunk and belligerent and scary. my friend and i ran, and when we got away he explained that a lot of FTRA
slamminhole69 1 year ago
@Boss302fan
members are killers, they'll rob you for your pack, beat you to death, then throw your body under a train to try to make it look like an accident. For reference, most of the people I ran into on the rails were homeless (usually age 35-50) and then the younger generation of train hoppers (usually age 17-30) are "gutter punks" anarchists and other social dropouts. Probably the smallest percentage of train riders are recreational thrill seekers like you see on youtube. Riding freight
slamminhole69 1 year ago
@Boss302fan
was a really cool experience, but I stick with hitchhiking as my means for seeing the country. But the next time you're downtown and a really dirty guy with a backpack and dreadlocks and facial tattoos asks you if you can spare some change, help him out; he's probably a hobo. If you hopping trains always be aware of your surroundings, I would suggest carrying mace and a knife. Don't hop trains with people you don't know or don't trust either. Things can really get ugly out there.
slamminhole69 1 year ago
@slamminhole69 any advice you can give me about this cause im about to hop soon cause i cant afford a bus ticket i need all the advice possible to do this how do you know what direction and etc......
astaroth333777 1 year ago
Its a fun thing i`m sure. But yes you do have to be careful and know wat yo doing.
FreightCarPainter 2 years ago
cool vid
SnowDude08 2 years ago
its alexander supertramp
onemanarmy801 2 years ago 3
not a bad video clip. P.S Alexander Superhobo
adventures72012 3 years ago
lulz, i like how america is described as being famous for freight hopping, jazz, and sex in cars. thats hilarious
NoelaAndTheMax 3 years ago 18
Im an avid train hopper. Hopped over 200 trains so far. Its free easy fast travel. It's definetly NOT for every one though.
pimpnj23 3 years ago
Definitely not for everyone.
Like the dude who was beat up in Hapeville (South Atlanta) when he got off the train in the wrong part of town. Our crew called 911 when they saw his body lying trackside. He lived..
Another dude wasn't so lucky. Beaten up and died from his injuries. Our crew saw his body and called 911, but he had been dead for several days. Ran into some trouble with the locals after hopping off the freight after a thrill ride from Macon. That was the last thing he did.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
@NoelaAndTheMax
he doesn't say america is "famous for" those things, he describes those things as genuinely american. that doesn't make it any less specious, but there is a definite difference.
dmm8686 1 year ago
@NoelaAndTheMax fuck yeah! america!!
irishbroog92 1 year ago
i really want to do this. does anyone know of any trains in Md/ Nyc?
Streetlightcngus 3 years ago
so do i i just dont know how to start X_X
vampirerauli 3 years ago
find a yard. or tracks usually under a highway bridge, and hop on, see where it takes you.
chadillac745 3 years ago
memorize the book by duffy littlejohn
otacon451 2 years ago
sweet
Lamahopper17 3 years ago
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trainnutt 3 years ago
ah i saw copes throwie.
I hopped a train once,but only for about 5 minutes when i was 12.Hiding from the workers while they were checking the train had a good rush. Want to try it again,to go somewhere like Montreal.and another way but a much less safer way to do it is just hop on the back of a truck if your late for your curfew at night.Just go for a few lights and stop on the first reasonable stop closest to your destination.Shouldnt do it though.
TrandomnesstwO 3 years ago
yea i really dont like the dudes face at 1:07 lol. not everyone listens to jazz.. and has sex in cars? but whatever haha
bemjamin 3 years ago 3
So much fun, I think everyone should do it at least once in their life. I miss it so much
6Satan6Archist6 3 years ago
aww there like so confused
JeremygotTHEmotoQ 3 years ago
Totaly awesome, to do it for a life...might be fun when your young
WWBZT1 3 years ago
can't wait to see this film. Does anyone know of any other films or docs about "catching out"?
oskorei123 3 years ago
Listerine on sundays
punkmafia 3 years ago
not paying rent or bills must be great, but where do you find meaning in a life spent hoping from place to place without ever making roots?
Complete freedom- being totally without responsibility to other people- would suck, i think.
coolpiza 3 years ago
I've always wanted to but dont know how or where to start
loftsean 3 years ago
same here..from northern NC and plenty of trains around..just gotta do more research and get the sand to do it
oskorei123 3 years ago
yeah theres a train that goes right through here
but
with the speed it goes and all
its kind of hard to understand how to even get on
loftsean 3 years ago
oskorei123! i'm also from North Carolina. and i've reallllly been wanting to do this. maybe if you decide to do this(or if you have already..) you could gimme some tips? that'd be really cool if ya could man! thanks
FactsOfLifee 3 years ago
hey im also from nc if you are going or thinking of going let me know im coming with you
mtb527 3 years ago
Oi! man, I'm thinking of hopping a train in May, I'm in Mount Airy, NC, let's do this.
punk00thrasher 2 years ago
hell yeah dude find me on face book Trent Bailey i am so down to do this!! since i posted that last comment i have hopped a train and it was such an adrenaline rush
mtb527 2 years ago
All I can tell you guys is that while it may be a rush, it is illegal and can be dangerous.
And more and more lately there are people running around in railyards that are dangerous. There are areas where I send our crews out with escorts. I am not kidding.
You ride a train to Miami or downtown Atlanta or St. Louis and you get out and you just might die.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
The difference though is that your crews have pockets and grips that contain wallets and money...
People in the ghetto will generally leave tramps alone...
mainly because we dont have ANYTHING worth stealing... and maybe also... they can identify with the desperation and necessity of riding trains and thusly we end up becoming more of a novelty then a target or threat...
agencyfilms 2 years ago
The next time I find a beat up train-rider, or in one case when we found a dead one....I will keep your thoughts in mind.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
While agreed that it can be dangerous, most travel in groups, not all, but many. Danger is a bit less when it comes to being attacked.
anarchocrust 2 years ago
first of all the bull isnt smart enough or fast enough to catch me second keep this shit off the internet i wanna be able to keep riding trains
mrbaseball2202 2 years ago 4
get a trainschedule. their not that hard to come by. talk to kids on the street. wait at a siting spot and as soon as it stops hop on. or if you're willing to risk it hop it on the fly.
punkmafia 3 years ago
any other ways to get schedules or maps? I live in a small southern town and there aren't exactly too many train punx wandering the streets spanging.
oskorei123 3 years ago
good stuff
YoungAndBalding 3 years ago