F-35 is an excellent strike aircraft and a fair fighter. the F-22 is excellent for air superiority fighter. If Leon Panetta wants to make himself useful, force all services to use the F-35B version and spend the left over money save by producing one type o fighter on more F-22 raptors.
@diveplane Robert Gates is an idiot who knows nothing about airplanes. the 22 has better stealth capability than most other airplanes in the world, and the F35 does not. It is advanced and all, but the F22 would probably be more useful in a real war.
They havent been canned, they just dont need anymore then they have right now because of its ability to win a dog fight even in an uneven match.. And there are not any dog fights going on right now so why would they build more.. Our other jets are doing fine.. They are trying to pass a Bill to build more by the way, so there definatly not canned...
You know whats funny all these (Scenerios) & (VIDEO GAMES) they play out are so fake lol the F 22 and 35 are unseen till doors open wich means your maneuverbility means donkey shit because your being sniped from god knows where
this fucken kids judge planes by maneuverability forget that in korea,vietnam n first gulf war,those nations fielded maneuverable jets than the yanks,guess what,yanks jets always ended up wit a better kill ratio,reason is technology on yanks planes n yank better train pilots raped russian planes,today advance computer n weaponry,jets will be shot down before even get to the merge for a dogfight,can some1 tell those russians this aint 1970's when computers n guidance system were shit..
Su-37 and Su-47 fans say this 2 jets av advantage..fucken idiots..all those plane got are maneuverability,f-22 n f-35 gonna av better radar,avionics n bvr capability than su37 n 47 if its comes out,so good luck getting close to f22 n f35 laddies,also f22 looks like it can do those maneuvers too,so f22 is the total package,su37 n 47 are air shows awesome,when it comes to high tech stuff,yanks always do better,dont say su47 gonna be good..lol..f22 n f35 can be upgraded to meet future threats..
I think the JSF is good for some operations. But I think when you go for the JSF-A its better to go for the F22, because it's more stealth. Makes less noise, and the F22 is more maneuverable. All the highteck can be placed in the F22 as well.
When you've got the JSF-B and -C I'm sure they've got a pro.. something.
above 60,000 Raptor and JSF have advantage. Both are sides are nuclear capable,though the Sukoi's have move firepower, they also eat more gas. Raptor and JSF have greater range and on this, they edge out the Sukois.
Sukois have greater maneoverobility over Raptors but less against the JSF. Raptor and JSF future upgrade packages to include plasma generators and missile radar deflectors later.
F-22 or F35 Supermanouverability? what? Just checkout SU37, SU47 a hude differnce!!!! F22 looks like a little girl when try to manouverate, its not a Supermanouverability, it a showingoff :))) hehehe very funny!!!
Lots care to win a dog fight a fighter jet or any kind of made-for-war vehicle has to be Super maneuverability just like a F-16 or SU-47. This vertical take-off is apply to time to take-off from the ground which i say would last for 6mins before over heating and damaging the engine same as landing.
if you haven't noticed... the Su-47 can hardly do ANY of the stunts the Su-37 can.. lol..
Su-37 is only SLIHGTLY more maneuvorable then the F-22... and the Su-37 is stripped down just so it can perform those maneuvors in airshows, the F-22 is combat ready in airshows
Sedate music for a sedate performance. The UK's entire carrier-based future is based on this, so let's hope it works. But compare this to a clip of the Eurofigher Typhoon in flight.. I think a naval Typhoon is by far the better option.
Great aircraft,I agree. As for Dec.21st 2012,I trully hope these weapons will be a thing of the past by that date. It's increadible to see this date on so many peoples minds. What will happen,I think,will be positive for mankind. Enough said,this is not the place for this conversation.
Except for the fact that the JSF has a higher take-off weight, is stealthier and carries weapons internally, can STVOL and VTOL and flies faster. But never mind that....
The JSF is scheduled to enter service in the United States military by late 2007 staring first with the F-35B for the Marine Corps. Other versions will come in succesion for the Navy and Air Force and will be available as far as I know to the U.K.
F-35 is an excellent strike aircraft and a fair fighter. the F-22 is excellent for air superiority fighter. If Leon Panetta wants to make himself useful, force all services to use the F-35B version and spend the left over money save by producing one type o fighter on more F-22 raptors.
craigdragon17 5 months ago
@diveplane Robert Gates is an idiot who knows nothing about airplanes. the 22 has better stealth capability than most other airplanes in the world, and the F35 does not. It is advanced and all, but the F22 would probably be more useful in a real war.
givemethatfilletfish 1 year ago
They havent been canned, they just dont need anymore then they have right now because of its ability to win a dog fight even in an uneven match.. And there are not any dog fights going on right now so why would they build more.. Our other jets are doing fine.. They are trying to pass a Bill to build more by the way, so there definatly not canned...
AzonaCATS10 1 year ago
What a three ring circus all of you make...I confess, the intellectual brainpower of all these comments is simply..."fascinating."
I wonder, how many of you are fighter pilots, of any era? I wonder how many of you have flown both U.S. and Russian fighters? I'd wager, none of you.
So do "us" a favor, and keep you your comments to yourself.
rjc071 2 years ago
You know whats funny all these (Scenerios) & (VIDEO GAMES) they play out are so fake lol the F 22 and 35 are unseen till doors open wich means your maneuverbility means donkey shit because your being sniped from god knows where
oxcide101 2 years ago
this fucken kids judge planes by maneuverability forget that in korea,vietnam n first gulf war,those nations fielded maneuverable jets than the yanks,guess what,yanks jets always ended up wit a better kill ratio,reason is technology on yanks planes n yank better train pilots raped russian planes,today advance computer n weaponry,jets will be shot down before even get to the merge for a dogfight,can some1 tell those russians this aint 1970's when computers n guidance system were shit..
fmoa 2 years ago
Su-37 and Su-47 fans say this 2 jets av advantage..fucken idiots..all those plane got are maneuverability,f-22 n f-35 gonna av better radar,avionics n bvr capability than su37 n 47 if its comes out,so good luck getting close to f22 n f35 laddies,also f22 looks like it can do those maneuvers too,so f22 is the total package,su37 n 47 are air shows awesome,when it comes to high tech stuff,yanks always do better,dont say su47 gonna be good..lol..f22 n f35 can be upgraded to meet future threats..
fmoa 2 years ago
the f35 is very slow compared to the f 22.
21sparrow7 2 years ago
its only got 1 engine man plus the marine f-35s got the stovl capability which mekes it alot more versitile and its cheap too compared to the raptor
SNOWMANINURFACE 2 years ago
haha cheap???
It's gunna cost more than the F-22 soon, Because it needt o be updated soo much right now
blakeblake321 2 years ago
bro you don't update something thats brand new plus its not even in service yet and like i said cheat compared to the raptor retard
SNOWMANINURFACE 2 years ago
and less mav but its got better payloads for ground runs such as in middle eastern theaters
oxcide101 2 years ago
when's this bitch gonna be combat-operable?
migkillertwo 3 years ago
I think the JSF is good for some operations. But I think when you go for the JSF-A its better to go for the F22, because it's more stealth. Makes less noise, and the F22 is more maneuverable. All the highteck can be placed in the F22 as well.
When you've got the JSF-B and -C I'm sure they've got a pro.. something.
RoelofKenth 3 years ago 2
look like a chopper with wings!! hehe
araullo 3 years ago
That thing can totally steal helicopter parking.
Ciuperciuc 3 years ago
you probly don't know sure what either one of the fighters would do.
I think a f-22 or F-35 would be a pretty even match between a su-37 or su-47.
wich I dout would happen
ClayCentral 4 years ago
Below 60,000 Su-37 and Su-47 have advantage.
above 60,000 Raptor and JSF have advantage. Both are sides are nuclear capable,though the Sukoi's have move firepower, they also eat more gas. Raptor and JSF have greater range and on this, they edge out the Sukois.
Sukois have greater maneoverobility over Raptors but less against the JSF. Raptor and JSF future upgrade packages to include plasma generators and missile radar deflectors later.
victor1566 4 years ago 2
*cough* sensor fusion *cough*
DarkWombat77 4 years ago
Uh the problem with the SU 37 dogfighting the f22 is...the pilot has no clue where the f22 is. The f22 cheats.
idlenessss 2 years ago
F-22 or F35 Supermanouverability? what? Just checkout SU37, SU47 a hude differnce!!!! F22 looks like a little girl when try to manouverate, its not a Supermanouverability, it a showingoff :))) hehehe very funny!!!
mikhasya1976 4 years ago
who cares can the su37 or the su47 fly vertical no then stfu :)
hxor 4 years ago
Lots care to win a dog fight a fighter jet or any kind of made-for-war vehicle has to be Super maneuverability just like a F-16 or SU-47. This vertical take-off is apply to time to take-off from the ground which i say would last for 6mins before over heating and damaging the engine same as landing.
chris832 4 years ago
F-35 has better weapons. The F-22 can rip apart russian crap any ways.
metalpsychosis 4 years ago
if you haven't noticed... the Su-47 can hardly do ANY of the stunts the Su-37 can.. lol..
Su-37 is only SLIHGTLY more maneuvorable then the F-22... and the Su-37 is stripped down just so it can perform those maneuvors in airshows, the F-22 is combat ready in airshows
so that's a significant difference too
RSsnowolf4 4 years ago
who cares planes dont dogfight anymore anyways.
trainteeth 4 years ago
Sedate music for a sedate performance. The UK's entire carrier-based future is based on this, so let's hope it works. But compare this to a clip of the Eurofigher Typhoon in flight.. I think a naval Typhoon is by far the better option.
farliesbirthday 4 years ago
kick ass but you dont need this seach for december 21 2012
sgtAbdou 5 years ago
Great aircraft,I agree. As for Dec.21st 2012,I trully hope these weapons will be a thing of the past by that date. It's increadible to see this date on so many peoples minds. What will happen,I think,will be positive for mankind. Enough said,this is not the place for this conversation.
t5239857289578947594 4 years ago
yout right, those kind of things are seriously pissin me off
sgtAbdou 4 years ago
its not stealthy
darkgunner666 5 years ago
18.3-07 Norwegian news paper...
JSF will be 12% MORE expensiv...
Hmmm maybe its cheeper to pay the ¨enemy¨ to surender??? he he he he
kennethHaugan 5 years ago
Lets just say when the F-22 and the F-35 come out and face the enemy, they will run for cover and by that time's its too late.
redmustang03 5 years ago
Except for the fact that the JSF has a higher take-off weight, is stealthier and carries weapons internally, can STVOL and VTOL and flies faster. But never mind that....
DarkWombat77 5 years ago
Norway have spent over 700mil Kroner on the aircraft.
I and we are not alone.
Thets the reason for the name Joint Strike Fighter.
PS Aerodynamics are not butifull.
kennethHaugan 5 years ago
the dutch over 800mil euro! :)
RonKrukkert 5 years ago
She's a beauty ! I was just wondering....who are we (USA) expecting to fight in the near future?
Where are the rest of the super powers when you need them...
siriusvoyager 5 years ago
go to the wiki article, the F-35 lightning is scheduled to be introduced by 2011. F-22 until then
drocon 5 years ago
ur mom is ugly
DOCTAHLOVE 5 years ago
The JSF is scheduled to enter service in the United States military by late 2007 staring first with the F-35B for the Marine Corps. Other versions will come in succesion for the Navy and Air Force and will be available as far as I know to the U.K.
USSRman45 5 years ago
Sorry mate i may have missed something, but this plane has been out for a while
Sandman89 5 years ago
It would appear you have, the plane hasn't entered service with any nation as of yet.
Goz89 5 years ago