Sopranos - Second Opinion Clip

[bicrehan]

This was Carmela's last shot at redemption in the show. After this, she could only try to feel less complicit in being a part of the grotesquerie of Tony's life. "Take the children, what's left of them, and go." She didn't. Her character begins to atrophy from this episode on, and her arguments, her struggles, her triumphs take place in the prism of being a willful part of Tony's crimes.

[theant8899]

i think this is one of the best parts of the whole series.

[lajas44]

What the name of this episode....season?

[philipkd]

@lajas44 "Second Opinion", S03E07. Eddie Falco won an Emmy for this episode.

[Groomboy47]

this is one of my all time favourite scenes from the sopranos. its just so.... real... accurate and honest depth and insight, real world reflections on Carmellas situation.. very good.

[chesstourist]

fanfuckingtastic!

[Torka123]

This felt like the only scene in the whole series where someone was honest about what monsters and sociopaths Tony and his crew are.

[ikabetet]

whats the name of the song in the end of this ep?

[matdoherty1]

fuck this guy tony should have him cliped

[craigkbryant]

One of the funny little conceits of the series was that Jennifer Melfi was a terrible therapist. Like Carmela--like us, the audience--she made excuses for Tony and for herself, year after year. Told herself lies about trying to "help" or "cure" him...for me, this is maybe the single most important scene in the entire show. One of the very few pieces of straight talk.

[Groomboy47]

@craigkbryant yes you are clever. this is correct. this is the most important scene in the entire show. congratulations on your interpretation..

[djgraememaclean]

'Us Catholics, we place a great deal of stock in the sanctity of the family'. Don't make me laugh. Your husbands a murderer!? Roman Catholic priests are out molesting kids the world over and destroying families. You only need to watch the complete corruption of the Roman Catholic Church depicted in this show to realise they're a bigger bunch of gangsters than Tony's crew and all the New York crews combined. Ironic that it's a Jew who has to set her straight. lol David Chase is a genius!

[ktherock7]

This is what the profession should be like. Instead, modern psychiatrists have become little more than legal drug pushers.

[mlc2005]

BTW: Edie Falco won her second of three Emmys by submitting this very episode, even beating Dr. Melfi's rape episode that Lorraine Bracco submitted. Falco was simply astonishing here, and was able to display incredible talent.

[ZEINKIENZIAN]

My favorite scene in the whole series....

[ZEINKIENZIAN]

@elchuchulo It may have been removed but i read it and totally agree...

[memoryburn7]

"...take only the children, what's left of them..."

[funguy29]

superb



[jaylias]

"...so 'enabler' would be a more accurate job description of you than 'accomplice'... my apologies." lmao that guy delivered the line perfectly!

[batgurrl]

her reaction to the word mafia was pricless

[phuturephunk]

@ASkyofHeads I think one of the greatest things that David Chase and, by extension, James Gandolfini pulled off was the fact that you actually kind of rooted for Tony during the show's story arc but by the end he was just a completely detestable character. Anybody who really watched the show and got the subtext hated him by the end because of how wholly worthless he was. Maybe it was guilt for liking what was the bad guy, I dunno..but I've observed lots of people who thought the same as your rm

[MrJayra210]

woke up this morning....got yourself your a gun.

[laaspen]

@ASkyofHeads that's what I said !

[laaspen]

@ASkyofHeads that's funny! my mom thinks he is sexy, has a picture of him holding a cigar in her family room.

[laaspen]

if im not mistaken, she couldnt find a lawyer. they were turning her away. If she left, she would have to leave with nothing.

[albi55uk]

@laaspen thats the point : ]

[UnivegaSuperSport]

@laaspen She has herself and whatever skills she has or can learn. It's not like she's a braindead bimbo whose best option would be prostitution. She has her own parents. That's enough for people with far less to survive and built a life. How much should she pay for self-respect, self reliance, and distancing herself from murder, adultery, theft, violence, dishonesty, and betrayal?

[laaspen]

@UnivegaSuperSport I agree, I think she was afraid what he could or might do. thats why she stayed.

[albi55uk]

For me the best scene in Soprano's ever.

[funguy29]

so good!

[samdogmc12]

carmella just couldnt live without the money

[Joefonzgoldenarms]

just how he says "I'm not charging you because i won't take blood money, and you can't either" amazing hes asking her to leave with nothing but the kids then carmella realized shes stuck with him

[Joefonzgoldenarms]

this show subtly gave some praise to the perseverance of the jews

[markygmuzk]

Thank you for posting this. I am a great fan of the Sopranos from the very begining when they competed with the last seasons of the "X-Files", and THIS in my opinion is one of the BEST written, scripted, acted scences in the whole series!

[althesmith]

I imagine Carmella a second after the (probable?) ending of the series, looking at Tony slumped over with half of his skull splattered across the booth, remembering the words "You can't say you haven't been told."

[althesmith]

I could just see Tony trying to intimidate someone this brutally honest. Reminds me of what happened when an old Jewish guy owning a store in one neighbourhood was being intimidated by local crooked cops for favours. Pointed at a faded number on his forearm and said "Sorry, I've had to deal with schmucks in uniform before, and compared to those guys for being scary, you kids are the Three Stooges. Gevalt."

[kavman330]

One of the best scenes for this TV series. This Phychiatrist went straight to the point and did it on the first session. Not an easy thing for Carmela (or anyone else) to accept. Not only does he suggest she leave her husband but he doesn't want her taking BLOOD MONDY as well. Again, not easy to accept but I see his point. Occassionally I would forget how distructive this family is but the writer makes certain to remind us from time to time. Very good acting also.

[jeffallenCA]

this is why i love the sopranos and edie falco, this is GREAT television

[maddingo12]

That Jew put the truth right in Carmella's face. I agree; psychiatry is all about blaming genes or parenting or bad childhoods now. Personal choice and personal responsibility has gone out the window. Like Tony said: Carmella knew every step of the way what Tony was about and how it worked... it was up to her to leave or not get involved... and now she acts like she is in some kind of situation that she had zero control over. Fucking hypocrite.

[althesmith]

@maddingo12 : To quote Gertrude Stein, as far as actual personal depth to Carmella, "There is no "there" there."

[Whyrweherereally]

Wtf's with all these character studies and scene/story anaylisis's on every one of these vids?? not thats its a bad thing, its just fucking annoing.. sure, alot of it may be based off the actual crime stories etc.. BUT ITS STILL JUST A SHOW WITH ACTORS AND CAMERA'S.. ITS ENTERTAINMENT! 

[guitar19904]

@Whyrweherereally

the only person causing an annoyance is pretty much you.

let people studie the characters, ITS FUN

[Whyrweherereally]

@guitar19904 the only person causing an annoyance here is pretty much me? dud shut the fuk up, all i was saying was that these character/scene studies have gone too far... to the point where even spoilers arnt warned.. i guess some character studies are worth getting into, but come on! theres like a billion of them taking over the whole comments section!

[luvtinaturnerlots]

second opinion = never seen Carmela so depressed and down

[robinunderhood]

Carmella Soprano is the most annoying, selfish and self-centered character in the whole friggin show. She knew about Tony going into the marriage, she knew all about what he does for a living, she knew all about his adultery. But she still stayed with him. For what? MONEY. That is all what she wanted. Tony specifically tells her that she and the kids will be taken care of if something happens to him and also tells her the reason behind all the secrecy about their finances. Still she STOLE money.

[rosaf19]

@robinunderhood Carmela worries because Tony could be killed or arrested at any time.There's constant uncertainty in her life, and she wants financial security because it's a form of certainty. Tony may claim that she'll be taken care of, but it's clear from what happens to Angie Bonpensiero and Ginny Sack that it's not always true. She stole from him because she was angry about his not taking her fears seriously, and, more concretely, because she found Valentina's fingernail in his laundry.

[mlc2005]

@robinunderhood: Carmella is a very flawed human being, but "the most selfish, self-centered" on the show?? I never play the gender card (I'm a guy btw), but your comment was odd to me given how most of the men on the show (Tony included) regularly murder people (including friends/family), have multiple affairs, and beat their wives/girlfriends! Yet you see Carmella as the worst b/c she turns a blind eye to Tony's misdeeds and stole some of his money? That seems strange to me.

[HellBlazerRaiser]

One of the strongest, most powerful scenes in the ENTIRE series.

[soapg0]

the portay, colplexity and definition of carmela's character is just amazing. this show is like life. can't even sit down and watch any other show after the sopranos.... i started in treatment, which is only about therapy sessions, but i'm afraid it is not as good as this one scene only! :/

[fjcrab]

Although carmela is not my favourite character this would have to be my favourite scene from the first 5 seasons. Haven't seen season 6 yet...

[swyke]

I love this scene, and it was always fascinating to watch carmella's character coming to terms with her complicitness in Tony's world, and attempting to bury her guilt under religion, or motherhood, or material gratification. I thought she was a really human and realistic character that helped to ground the show by never quite achieving the integrity she desired.

[GregorHamilton]

@swyke very good analysis, I wish I could of said that half as good, changed my view on the character even more so too.

[wesside818]

They shoulda killed off Carmela a looong time ago. Her scenes are always annoying as fuck...

[Death929]

The doc is right, she is a flat out enabler, I'm just shocked that she let it get this bad. I can't imagine how it must be for her to just go out and not hear gossip about her and Tony, on a physiologic level I don't know how she has been able to pull it off. It all falls under the fact of how she's attracted to strong, powerful. I don't feel bad for Carmela however, the one time she had a chance to straighten things up, she blew it by letting Tony back in her life. That's Catholic life for you

[italoirish888]

"Go to any shopping mall or ethnic pride parade and look at the results." What exactly does that mean? I kind of get the shopping mall part because there are a lot of fat trashy people walking around. But the ethnic pride parade part?

[craigbernthal]

@italoirish888 My take on the ethnic pride parade is that he is referring to identity politics, wherein various identity groups blame their problems on someone else. That's given that his speech is about taking personal responsibility. I doubt that he's taking a shot at the sons of Italy.

[7777777759]

this is the best dialogue i've ever heard on television-brillante

[XIPM3]

"probably the least of his misdeeds" i laughed so hard when he said that- you can't say that as a psychiatrist, you are making the situation worse! LOL

[lapackerfan]

This single scene sums up the entire series

[h0fner]

@lapackerfan ABSOLUTELY I couldn't agree more dude

[gonzaperez16]

One of my favourite episodes

[tubestation66]

this guy should have a programme of his own,,such a brilliant delivery to his opinions

[Sefardi123]

"Take only the children - what's left of them"

So many gems in this short snippet of honesty.

[Sefardi123]

Without Carmella Tony would shutter; and so, her being his wife does make her an enabler /accomplice of his crimes.

[Sefardi123]

I would LOVE to see Tony facing this man...

Yeah, he COULD beat/kill him, but that wouldn't happen; this man's SHEER TRUTH would put him SMACK in the middle of a CHOICE: LEAVE CRIME - or realize what a murderous piece of shit he is to his victims, to his children, to his wife, and to himself; in this choice with his history that's a SURE heart/panic /depression attack he would NOT recover from.

This kind of psychiatrist (unlike Melfi) would be the one chance for true living for Tony's kind.

Sad.

[jbjumpback]

You know Doctor, we're good Catholics and hold to a higher moral standard, than say, Jewish or Baptist.

 Oh by the way, if you need someone murdered...I'm sure we can come to some kind of financial agreement.

[flagless]

How's that going?

lol that just kills!

[ndmclash]

This is probably my favorite scene in the entire series. Epic.

[quuqeemonster]

Pompous ass

[helzballa]

The psychiatrist looks kind of like Freud.

This is probably the most honest therapy session in the series, therapists are not supposed to please their clients but rather force them to come to terms with the real source of trauma in their lives, even if that's something they don't like to hear.

[Sefardi123]

It's probably one of the most honest therapy sessions period - not just on TV.

[EduardoElSexypants]

@helzballa therapists are making sand castles in the brains of people most of the time.

[boilingsand]

Great little scene.

[brightlights456X]

Look at Carmela's legs. I would love to plant my face right between them.

Whos with me?

:D

[Shuffer73]

I love this scene for so many reasons. It marks a bit of a turning point in the series where we are taken from a quite charming portrayal of a mobster to a darkening tale, revealing the true nature of the organisation.

In one scene, this shrink blows EVERYTHING out of the water; both the romanticised version of the Mafia AND the psycho-babble of much American mental-therapy.

The actor looks a little shonky, but I love the last line and am dying to use it on a deluded acquaintance at some time.

[brightlights456X]

"One thing you can never say, Is that you haven't been told"

THATS what you want tell some one?

[Shuffer73]

Yes. Problem?

[brightlights456X]

Upon reading your comment, I thought he was going to say something more profound.

You can pretty much say that in everyday conversation.

[Shuffer73]

Fair point, although to be searching for profundity in the comments area of You Tube must be quite demoralising.

To my mind, in the context of the series (have you watched it?) the phrase IS profound; we know Carmella has come to a private arrangement within her marriage that so far has absolved her in her own eyes from her husband's crimes, but at the expense of what? We have also seen how Melfi's treatment of Tony has almost validated his lifestyle with her walled-garden approach. (cont'd).

[Shuffer73]

(cont). You can also predict how the Soprano children are going to be harmed by Carmella's cheek-turning. With one elegant sentence, this shrink forces Carmella to take ownership of her problems, including those areas of Tony's psychotic career that financially support her, amongst other things.

I tried your approach this morning. I told my girlfriend that we were out of Sugar Puffs, followed by a portentous 'One thing you can never say.....'

It lost some of it's impact, it has to be said.

[brightlights456X]

Thats some good points put how could you relate that sentence to running out of "Sugar Puffs"? What did she do before, cry???

[mlc2005]

One other thing about this clip I always found interesting is that Dr. Melfi specifically recommended this psychiatrist (she obviously knew his technique). It makes you wonder what Melfi's intentions were. Or maybe I'm just overanalyzing.

[mlc2005]

I had never seen the Sopranos before, and we had to watch this episode in a psych. class in college.. I remember thinking, who the HELL is this wonderful actress, and was hooked ever since. Falco is so wonderful in this scene.

[HeyYou711]

Best show!! :D