This is pretty retarded to call it 33/8. Instead you can call it 3 bars of natural 8/8 and a forth bar of 9/8.. Alooooot easier than counting 33/8 like each separate bar
@Simoto92 Well, you apparently don't play it as 3 bars of 4/4 or 8/8 and one bar of 9/8 AND you wouldn't count 33 beats anyway. You'd memorise the beat pattern in 33/8 (that's what folk musicians do).
well, as the beat spans over 33/8 notes, its quite alot to memorize if the pattern isn't in some way repetitive. So i basically think he grouped different patterns in easier bars, such as 6/8 for one part and then another part in 8/8 for example, so that it would be easier to memorize the structure of the entire 33/8 bar. its quite hard to explain but i think you get what i mean.
Very impressive, Simon Phillips is one the greatest drummers, but there are also really good drummers in the odd meter domain, for example check out Stoyan Yankoulov - Tupanitsa , he is absolutely unbelievable, and we can clearly see he is influenced by his bulgarian origins where traditional bulgarian music is exclusively an odd meter based music. Peace :)
Worst tutorial vid I have ever watched......saw what this Guy was doing and I decided that his unbelievale talent is above my head!, I will stick to what I know and accept that this man is the best Drummer out there without doubt.
@Raxus007 i totally understand. in my understanding to remember the stuff is always easy than count. it may sound stupid. but you never play with your hands and feet when played drums. you play from your head. if you remember it you most likely won't get lost. because when you count, your head is distracted with counting. professional musician always count, I know it coz I grew up with them. but it reality nothing beats good recording you confident with material even if it's crazy prog-metal :)
Too funny. Just today, I saw a list of "the 25 funniest youtube comments ever." You just beat all of them but I guess it's all relative to musicians...
@godzillafireman I totally agree! It feels like the music is written only for the purpose of drumming to it. He is a great drummer though and nowadays he's really really great!
Hhaha look @ his face he's all like "this. is 33/8, welcome to my world, it is very complicated and it will blow your mind" His phrasing indicates that the count/feel is 2-measure groups of 17/16 and 4/4 (16/16). Try to count groups of 33 even 8th-notes (33/8) throughout this song. Half of them wind up being on the upbeat. Simon would have to be busting his brain to count this in 33/8
@609999nb Yeah, but he's playing in half-time if you're going to accept 33/8. If you count the basic pulse as sixteenths, it's simply 33/16. This makes the most sense based on what he's playing. Calling it 33/8 just sounds less intimidating. Neither is wrong, it's just a matter of perception (again, I'm not saying 33/8 = 33/16).
@cowboy0212 They have two totally different styles but I would say that Simon Phillips is a much more versatile drummer in that he pretty much play everything from Rock, Metal, pop, fusion, vintage jazz. The list goes on and on. He has chops but plays with just smoothnes and finess.
The best way to count this (for me) is as a bar of 17/16 and a bar of 4/4. (which puts it in 33/16 rather than 33/8, which I think makes more sense but they are rhythmically equivalent) The bar of 17 is generally grouped as 4+4+4+5. Ta-ka-de-my Ta-ka-de-my Ta-ka-de-my Ta-ki-ta-ki-ta!
@HeavyMetalen666 Technically they do, it's just not likely to come up in a composition. You can force any subdivision into a meter with tuplets and if you play 19 notes in the span of each quarter note for a bar of 4/4 that comes out to 76 notes, so they're functionally 76th notes. Once you figure out what speed that is at tempo you can write measures with the 76th, or one hit of a 19-note tuplet, as the beat. I've done it with 20ths (quintuplets) and 12ths (triplets).
@RythmicalParoxysm It depends on what you mean. Is it "far-fetched" in that it only rarely comes up even with musicians that know about and are interested in that kind of thing, then yeah. It does happen though and it is a perfectly valid technique.
@XxStrongDrums1996xX No they don't, because by that way of counting a 9th note could be either a quarter note in a 9/4 bar, or a 8th note triplet in a 3/4 bar.
You can get lots of different amounts of notes in a bar, for example 21 septuplet notes in a 3/4 bar, but you would call them quarter note septuplets and not 21th notes, to avoid confusion.
@609999nb Well, you are TECHNICALLY correct, but an informal way of referring to a note value is simply by stating it's number. I was simply pointing out the fact that any note value (supposing it is a positive integer) is existent.
@609999nb For one thing rhythmic note names are determined by their place in common time (4/4), not the meter they're actually used in. So 9ths wouldn't be 8th triplets in 3/4, they would be a nine-note tuplet which fills an entire bar of 4/4.
Of course, with tempo changes your idea of one duration becoming a more common one is very reasonable, and that's how most people handle it (such as with metric modulation). Both compositional techniques have their place.
Simon, du bist bescheuert, des macht Süchtig da zuzusehen und zu erkennen, was man selbst für eine Feldwegmässige Pfeiffe ist. Ich geh mich jetzt aufhängen...schönen Tag noch
Back in '74 and '75 me and my drummer buddy skipped school for months doing nothing but sitting at his mom's house and playing stuff like this. Him on drums, me on guitar. I graduated and he never went back to school! HaHa! Those were the days... We both were/are professional musicians now, but we wasted a lot of youth on this stuff!
Nice. Love Simon Phillips and what he brings to drums. I always thought that he is just such a tasteful player with well thought out grooves & fills. I like listening to his live stuff with The Who from '89. He had plenty of room since Townshend's traditionally wrote very ryhthm oriented tunes. Love his version of Won't Get Fooled Again too.
Musicly the count could be : 4445 + 4444 (in 16ths) - u can turn the 4 5 to 3 3 3 but thats just a matter of taste.
So the beat 33/16 can't be converted to 8ths - what u can do though is to turn the 66/16 to 8th notes !
If for example the 17/16 half has a double floor tom patern and the 4/4s half has an octobans fill u can call all that a bar of 33/16 if then play one more time and switch the toms with the octabons u could have 33/8
Actually, you can count this as 8/8 1/16 8/8 8/8 1/16, 8/8 = 8+0.5+8+8+0.5+8 = 33 (It's all arithmetic, so if 1/8 is one count then 1/16 will be the half of a 1/8th note since (1/16) / 2 = (1/2)/(16/2) = 0.5/8 and this happens twice since the beat is turned after every two bars of 8, except for when the beat starts, it happens after the first bar of 8. I hope that made sense hehe.
@BenjaminProd Myabe I would Count it like this : 7/8 1/16 1/8 8/8 7/8 1/16 1/8 8/8, cuz you said 8/8 then 1/16, but actually the 1/16 sounds like it comes after a 7/8 :)
@hotfin378 Nah, there's not a 7/8 how it's played, but you can pretty much divide it up any way that adds up to 33/8 heh, that's what I like so much about this. :)
@BenjaminProd Oh, I count it 7/8 cuz there's a note from melody comes right after a 7/8 +1/16, maybe just cuz it's harder for me to count an 8/8 but the melody accent is 1/16 before the beat 8 and also 1/16 after the beat 8 is no sound for melody. You're right, actually we can count in any way, this is so interesting !! :))
Well I find it rather funny that everyone must fight about the time signature. Think of it as 11/4 with triplets. (like 6/8=2/4 with triplets). Why can't we all just agree that this is amazing drumming?
Lol no one would ever call a time signature 33/8. This is simply 17/8 and then two bars of 4/4. He's just trying to impress people by calling it 33/8. It's really not that hard.
@kylearaki58 Wrong. What determines a time signature is where the definitive downbeat is. In this case there is only one and it repeats after 33 8th notes. Did you study at all?
@I12BPhil Sorry bud. But maybe if you had an ear for this you would hear it. There's a definitive downbeat after 17 8th notes (17 comes after 16 by the way.) Then after that, it's two bars of 4/4 (two bars of 4/4 is 16 8th notes) :O and guess what!? 17 plus 16 is 33!!! Learn your shit dumb fuck.
instead of a single this is an odd or un-even signature, 33/8 could easily be improv in 11/3 or 3/11 haha every number has it's expression! actually there is 1,2. that's all, that's why odd numbers are so interesting. the beat on a scale of would come to the percentage of 3.666666667 or something like that alll numbers can be percieved as whole odd's or even's so whatever later bye
Best way for me is to count to 9 once and then count to 8 three times, but I guess we've all got our own way of getting to 33. Absolutely brilliant though!
His part writing is so creative! I love how melodic it is. How he takes a rhythmic shape on the octobans to his left and then tags it on the end of the measure on the huge tom to his right.
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+91+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+. or/ ta ka di me, ta ka di me, ta ka di me, da di gi ni dum, ta ka di me ta ka di me ta ka di me ta ka di me. and the subdivisions at 1:30 with a sixteenth not triplet value, count 5 groups of 6 plus 3 to resolve, this to me has a lot more of a natural odd time feel.
it's one thing to count or play along with this 33/8. it's a whole nother thing to actually write and perform it on your own! Simon Phillips is an incredible musician who plays drums. not just a drummer per sa. Love him or hate him, there is no denying his amazing talent! He is a master in every sense of the word!
@eqsmooth You are quite right - Simon Phillips is a genius and I am taking the piss a bit which may annoy SP fans. I loved his session work throughout the 70s and 80s and wish we heard more of his stuff and quality drums in general in the main stream (although most likely in 4/4). The indie movement in the UK murdered creative drumming in the 90s over here and things are still limping along....
@willV and the 17/16 can easily be mistaken for 9/8 because if you count it in cut time it ends on 9 with no corresponding "and", it would actually be the 1 of the next bar in "16/16" (4/4 or 8/8).
@jonorocko1 it's all about splitting the various parts of the track up into groupings of various time signatures, it makes it a lot easier, this is how prog rock works
@JonnyFunkMistro exactly, it can be really fun to mess around with, too. I play a song with my band and in the main line there are 2 bars of 4/4 and then a bar of 11/8, and I have a lot of fun with it-play 2 linear patterns in 11/16, 9/8+4 sixteenths, make the bar of 4/4 into a 7/8 and then stick the leftover eighth note onto the 11/8 and play is as a 12/8 but with triplet feel so its like metric modulation or something...lots of cool stuff. Crazy time signatures=epic.
@Neotails8762 Yeah you're right. That last 123 is a 12. :) So it's 33/8, my mistake. Well it's the same rhythm, whether you count it as 33/8 or 33/16, I prefer counting in 8's. :)
@Neotails8762 yeah, i prefer slow sixteenths to fast eighths. I like the way you count it, but to simplify it a little more, you could take the final two time signatures (7/16-9/16) and just count it like 4/4. 7/16+10/16+16/16+33 too.
@Neotails8762 lawl i just count 5 eight times then a 3 as long as it adds up but out loud at the speed its so hard to even breath going through all that haha
@Neotails8762 nice analysis bro, the phrasing goes just like that... I actually could count along like that, I guess almost 10 years of drumming wasn't a total waste!
I think I've got it. 9/8 + 8/8 is close, but there is a fraction of a beat after the 9 count.
If you count 6/8, then 5/16 with swing, and then 8/8 it seems to work out? The emphasis still doesn't add up properly, but it seems to get the timing.
This reminds me of those juggling competitions where people juggle 11 balls or whatever. Technical mastery for sure, but the entertainment value suffers. This sounds to me like generic elevator music. :-/
Best way to think of it is as - 1 quarter note, a dotted 8th (or 3 16ths), followed by 5 8th notes - repeat twice.
RogueRotting360 1 day ago
Left handed,porn sountrack
soldierofjaa 1 day ago
That hi hat's almost underneath his snare.
Great player.
Fbozboz 2 days ago
This is pretty retarded to call it 33/8. Instead you can call it 3 bars of natural 8/8 and a forth bar of 9/8.. Alooooot easier than counting 33/8 like each separate bar
Simoto92 3 days ago
@Simoto92 Well, you apparently don't play it as 3 bars of 4/4 or 8/8 and one bar of 9/8 AND you wouldn't count 33 beats anyway. You'd memorise the beat pattern in 33/8 (that's what folk musicians do).
SindwillerCH 1 day ago
@SindwillerCH
well, as the beat spans over 33/8 notes, its quite alot to memorize if the pattern isn't in some way repetitive. So i basically think he grouped different patterns in easier bars, such as 6/8 for one part and then another part in 8/8 for example, so that it would be easier to memorize the structure of the entire 33/8 bar. its quite hard to explain but i think you get what i mean.
Simoto92 9 hours ago
it's really 33, if you want to count this, you can in the intro with the hi hat pattern:
LRLR LRRL RLRL RLRL RLRL RLRR LRLR LRRLR: 33/8!
sry fo english...
placesd972 4 days ago
Funny to see him playing the same set-up, obviously in his younger days, to the one he plays now. Exactly the same.
siobhan104 6 days ago
Amazing, one of the best!
humac09 6 days ago
17/8 + 4/4 would be more correct...but less impressive
universalmind3000 1 week ago
i met him once ..i bet he dont remember .
TheMichaelseymour 1 week ago
its not in 33..
Sashamanxyz 1 week ago
Very impressive, Simon Phillips is one the greatest drummers, but there are also really good drummers in the odd meter domain, for example check out Stoyan Yankoulov - Tupanitsa , he is absolutely unbelievable, and we can clearly see he is influenced by his bulgarian origins where traditional bulgarian music is exclusively an odd meter based music. Peace :)
TugTwang 1 week ago
very skillful but that porno backing track is really a off-putting. It's like putting cheese on 300 dollar caviar.
terran236 2 weeks ago
unbelievable and terrifyingly beautiful.
The backing track needs some work tho :-)
MrYeahnahmate 2 weeks ago
Worst tutorial vid I have ever watched......saw what this Guy was doing and I decided that his unbelievale talent is above my head!, I will stick to what I know and accept that this man is the best Drummer out there without doubt.
soundsadeal 2 weeks ago
rdy for a walk :D
Schattenschritt62 2 weeks ago
still don't understand why people like to count drumming. if you remember it you don't have to know how many notes in there you just play it :)
sunnylee84 2 weeks ago
@sunnylee84 Counting makes it easy to edit just one drum part later, without feeling lost and having to play the whole thing from the start
Raxus007 2 weeks ago
@sunnylee84 also drums are supposed to represent the beat of the song, if you dont know where that beat is , you're lost
Raxus007 2 weeks ago
@Raxus007 i totally understand. in my understanding to remember the stuff is always easy than count. it may sound stupid. but you never play with your hands and feet when played drums. you play from your head. if you remember it you most likely won't get lost. because when you count, your head is distracted with counting. professional musician always count, I know it coz I grew up with them. but it reality nothing beats good recording you confident with material even if it's crazy prog-metal :)
sunnylee84 2 weeks ago
I had no idea porno music was done in 33/8. I guess you learn something new everyday!
gonzo5648 2 weeks ago 65
@gonzo5648
Too funny. Just today, I saw a list of "the 25 funniest youtube comments ever." You just beat all of them but I guess it's all relative to musicians...
tonemachine11 6 days ago
@gonzo5648 the porn industry must have some real good composers :D
c0d3x001 1 day ago
1:56 O.O!!!!!!
Bananensaft666 3 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
Great drummer. Fuck this music though.
rocketjunkie88 3 weeks ago
great drumming, terrible music
godzillafireman 3 weeks ago
@godzillafireman I totally agree! It feels like the music is written only for the purpose of drumming to it. He is a great drummer though and nowadays he's really really great!
misterkeyboard 2 weeks ago
I don't think he has enough drums.........lol.
uofm97 3 weeks ago
@uofm97 this guy should have tony bozzio's drums it would be more fitting
ewfmatthew 3 weeks ago
@ewfmatthew You mean Terry Bozzio? Yeah, the guy has a HUGE kit.
uofm97 3 weeks ago
Anyone know what year this was done in?
gddrummer13 3 weeks ago
sounds like 4/4 with crazy accents to me ;)
mrfish4lyfe 4 weeks ago
Hhaha look @ his face he's all like "this. is 33/8, welcome to my world, it is very complicated and it will blow your mind" His phrasing indicates that the count/feel is 2-measure groups of 17/16 and 4/4 (16/16). Try to count groups of 33 even 8th-notes (33/8) throughout this song. Half of them wind up being on the upbeat. Simon would have to be busting his brain to count this in 33/8
Cmontermini 1 month ago
SUPER
aroutioun1 1 month ago
SIN AFTER SIN - JUDAS PRIEST
was recorded with this guy, i love the drums on the album!
guitartur 1 month ago
Oh God I hate how many of these great drum videos from the 80s have this horrible midi music
troyx87 1 month ago
or just 17/16 + 4/4 soooo much easier sigh....
Proghead88 1 month ago
@Proghead88 That would be 17/16 + 16/16 = 33/16. To get 33/8, you would need 66/16.
609999nb 1 month ago
@609999nb Yeah, but he's playing in half-time if you're going to accept 33/8. If you count the basic pulse as sixteenths, it's simply 33/16. This makes the most sense based on what he's playing. Calling it 33/8 just sounds less intimidating. Neither is wrong, it's just a matter of perception (again, I'm not saying 33/8 = 33/16).
Proghead88 3 weeks ago
This guy is a walking metronome...
cowboy0212 1 month ago
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He's playing 4/4 9/8 4/4 4/4 (reads much better for sheet music). The clue is in the accents, 4/4 in grounds of two i.e. 1 and 2 and
The 9/8 in groups of three 1 e and 2 e and 3 e [or what words you use to count]
At 1:30 He then goes on to 3/4 3/4 3/4 4/4 7/8
All in the accents!
gummiedux 1 month ago
:O impresionante !
TavoillbateroAlD 1 month ago
I think I just peed in my pants. I'll have this down by 3012. Watch.
triclone123 1 month ago
For pete's sake, Einstein didn't understand "time" like Simon.. :)
jds122567 1 month ago
Simon Phillips is one of the few dudes who can give Spandex a good name ...
KONAMAN100 1 month ago
Is he better than Mike Portnoy?
cowboy0212 1 month ago
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@cowboy0212 said "Is he better than Mike Portnoy?"
I asked Portnoy an he said yes, but only just!
timezoner 1 month ago
@cowboy0212 They have two totally different styles but I would say that Simon Phillips is a much more versatile drummer in that he pretty much play everything from Rock, Metal, pop, fusion, vintage jazz. The list goes on and on. He has chops but plays with just smoothnes and finess.
RobResource 1 month ago 3
@RobResource Agree... Simon Phillips could fit in almost any great band out there... no doubt about that..
cowboy0212 1 month ago
What is that cymbal that he is riding his left hand with, directly over the first tom? Love the sound.
PhantomDrums917 1 month ago
I want to have sex with that drum kit.
xXObscureNightmareXx 1 month ago
@joshfossgreen- thanks man, you are correct! calling it 33/8 is technically correct but it definitely is more of a 33/16 feel-
your breakdown is spot on, so maybe it should be called 17/16 + 4/4, or I guess if you want to keep a common denominator,
17/16 + 16/16
when it goes to the 3 section, is it 11 groups of 3 then?
thanks!
davelewitt 1 month ago
The best way to count this (for me) is as a bar of 17/16 and a bar of 4/4. (which puts it in 33/16 rather than 33/8, which I think makes more sense but they are rhythmically equivalent) The bar of 17 is generally grouped as 4+4+4+5. Ta-ka-de-my Ta-ka-de-my Ta-ka-de-my Ta-ki-ta-ki-ta!
joshfossgreen 1 month ago
I once played in 157/76. that was back in the day when I practiced like mad. today I just chill
antibulletdodger101 1 month ago
@antibulletdodger101 Funny cause that doesn't exist.
The world would be a whole different place if 76th notes existed.
HeavyMetalen666 1 month ago
@HeavyMetalen666 well, let´s just say I´m very advanced
antibulletdodger101 1 month ago
@HeavyMetalen666 Technically they do, it's just not likely to come up in a composition. You can force any subdivision into a meter with tuplets and if you play 19 notes in the span of each quarter note for a bar of 4/4 that comes out to 76 notes, so they're functionally 76th notes. Once you figure out what speed that is at tempo you can write measures with the 76th, or one hit of a 19-note tuplet, as the beat. I've done it with 20ths (quintuplets) and 12ths (triplets).
TheSquareOnes 1 month ago
@TheSquareOnes I understand what you're saying but isn't that a bit far-fetched?
RythmicalParoxysm 1 month ago
@RythmicalParoxysm It depends on what you mean. Is it "far-fetched" in that it only rarely comes up even with musicians that know about and are interested in that kind of thing, then yeah. It does happen though and it is a perfectly valid technique.
TheSquareOnes 2 weeks ago
@HeavyMetalen666 76th notes exist, as do 7th notes, and 9th notes, and 127th notes.
XxStrongDrums1996xX 1 month ago
@XxStrongDrums1996xX No they don't, because by that way of counting a 9th note could be either a quarter note in a 9/4 bar, or a 8th note triplet in a 3/4 bar.
You can get lots of different amounts of notes in a bar, for example 21 septuplet notes in a 3/4 bar, but you would call them quarter note septuplets and not 21th notes, to avoid confusion.
609999nb 1 month ago
@609999nb Well, you are TECHNICALLY correct, but an informal way of referring to a note value is simply by stating it's number. I was simply pointing out the fact that any note value (supposing it is a positive integer) is existent.
XxStrongDrums1996xX 1 month ago
@609999nb For one thing rhythmic note names are determined by their place in common time (4/4), not the meter they're actually used in. So 9ths wouldn't be 8th triplets in 3/4, they would be a nine-note tuplet which fills an entire bar of 4/4.
Of course, with tempo changes your idea of one duration becoming a more common one is very reasonable, and that's how most people handle it (such as with metric modulation). Both compositional techniques have their place.
TheSquareOnes 2 weeks ago
Simon, du bist bescheuert, des macht Süchtig da zuzusehen und zu erkennen, was man selbst für eine Feldwegmässige Pfeiffe ist. Ich geh mich jetzt aufhängen...schönen Tag noch
bolie08 1 month ago in playlist simon phillips
dude!
zzzeeerrrooo000000 1 month ago
Love Simon's feel ... relaxed yet nothing's by accident.
CusterFlux 2 months ago
Genius!!!
Plubitos 2 months ago
Back in '74 and '75 me and my drummer buddy skipped school for months doing nothing but sitting at his mom's house and playing stuff like this. Him on drums, me on guitar. I graduated and he never went back to school! HaHa! Those were the days... We both were/are professional musicians now, but we wasted a lot of youth on this stuff!
dbbubba1 2 months ago
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julianisdope 2 months ago
I love his drumming. been following his career for a very long time. killer drummer. killer sound.
FHD59 2 months ago
i can't count it O.O
efretzlorent 2 months ago
Can you tell me what DVD this is taken from?
CougarButtes 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
you're a good drummer
Great
viktor29842 3 months ago
Nice. Love Simon Phillips and what he brings to drums. I always thought that he is just such a tasteful player with well thought out grooves & fills. I like listening to his live stuff with The Who from '89. He had plenty of room since Townshend's traditionally wrote very ryhthm oriented tunes. Love his version of Won't Get Fooled Again too.
p47paul 3 months ago
33 beats/measure? Holy shite.
chuckbyf1 3 months ago
its no 33/8 its 31/8, gg genius.
Manic205 3 months ago
@Manic205 i think you should watch this again, it's definitively 33/8
HiFisch94 2 months ago
@ajmvice76
LMAOSHIDMTAMSFO
ArmoniaLuminum 3 months ago
i remember the days when 33/8 was a marketing strategy for liberals! God Bless Hitler!
KingKarolus222 3 months ago
how about 789/55
PaparoniFilms 3 months ago
I think I need a good pair of Reeboks like his,...then I'd be able to play this,...thats all thats holdin me back,.... shabby footwear.
MrSilverism 4 months ago
Brilliant,great skill.
dubby46 4 months ago
ppl We got here:
17/16 + 4/4s
(2 * 4/4 + 9/16) + (4* 4/4)
Musicly the count could be : 4445 + 4444 (in 16ths) - u can turn the 4 5 to 3 3 3 but thats just a matter of taste.
So the beat 33/16 can't be converted to 8ths - what u can do though is to turn the 66/16 to 8th notes !
If for example the 17/16 half has a double floor tom patern and the 4/4s half has an octobans fill u can call all that a bar of 33/16 if then play one more time and switch the toms with the octabons u could have 33/8
TheTimeKeepingKeeper 4 months ago
yes, but can he play 35/8???????
onalyd 4 months ago
Actually, you can count this as 8/8 1/16 8/8 8/8 1/16, 8/8 = 8+0.5+8+8+0.5+8 = 33 (It's all arithmetic, so if 1/8 is one count then 1/16 will be the half of a 1/8th note since (1/16) / 2 = (1/2)/(16/2) = 0.5/8 and this happens twice since the beat is turned after every two bars of 8, except for when the beat starts, it happens after the first bar of 8. I hope that made sense hehe.
BenjaminProd 4 months ago 38
@BenjaminProd I'm just consulting my Einstein for beginners.....Do you know Mr Benjamin, I think you're absolutely right!! Well done.
DaveyL1954 3 months ago
@BenjaminProd Myabe I would Count it like this : 7/8 1/16 1/8 8/8 7/8 1/16 1/8 8/8, cuz you said 8/8 then 1/16, but actually the 1/16 sounds like it comes after a 7/8 :)
hotfin378 3 months ago
@hotfin378 Nah, there's not a 7/8 how it's played, but you can pretty much divide it up any way that adds up to 33/8 heh, that's what I like so much about this. :)
BenjaminProd 3 months ago
@BenjaminProd Oh, I count it 7/8 cuz there's a note from melody comes right after a 7/8 +1/16, maybe just cuz it's harder for me to count an 8/8 but the melody accent is 1/16 before the beat 8 and also 1/16 after the beat 8 is no sound for melody. You're right, actually we can count in any way, this is so interesting !! :))
coldfin378 3 months ago
@BenjaminProd yeah!
manzalicous 2 months ago
@BenjaminProd ok, but what about his pants
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gummiedux 1 month ago
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@BenjaminProd He's playing 4/4 9/8 4/4 4/4 (reads much better for sheet music). The clue is in the accents, 4/4 in grounds of two i.e. 1 and 2 and
The 9/8 in groups of three 1 e and 2 e and 3 e [or what words you use to count]
At 1:30 He then goes on to 3/4 3/4 3/4 4/4 7/8
All in the accents
gummiedux 1 month ago
@BenjaminProd you lost me a 8/8 lol
ewfmatthew 3 weeks ago
sick
rg2027x 4 months ago
This is by far the MOST discussed Song and his counting on youtube and its not that famous, haha !
Keksdiebchen 4 months ago
oohwee, that fill at 1:17/18 is badass.
SoCalTonyRadford 4 months ago
You can hear this easily by counting:
8/4 + 1/8 + 8/4. It's 16/4 plus an eight in the middle of the measure to link first eight eight to last one. Speed is around 152-154 BPM per four.
TheMetalKeyboardist 4 months ago
I hear 2/4, 5/8, 4/4
alih666 5 months ago
Well I find it rather funny that everyone must fight about the time signature. Think of it as 11/4 with triplets. (like 6/8=2/4 with triplets). Why can't we all just agree that this is amazing drumming?
SkaSmurf37 5 months ago
Odd meter music, when its good its really good and this stuff is REALLY good!
Philburpalooza 5 months ago
Lol no one would ever call a time signature 33/8. This is simply 17/8 and then two bars of 4/4. He's just trying to impress people by calling it 33/8. It's really not that hard.
kylearaki58 5 months ago
@kylearaki58 Wrong. What determines a time signature is where the definitive downbeat is. In this case there is only one and it repeats after 33 8th notes. Did you study at all?
I12BPhil 5 months ago
@I12BPhil Sorry bud. But maybe if you had an ear for this you would hear it. There's a definitive downbeat after 17 8th notes (17 comes after 16 by the way.) Then after that, it's two bars of 4/4 (two bars of 4/4 is 16 8th notes) :O and guess what!? 17 plus 16 is 33!!! Learn your shit dumb fuck.
kylearaki58 5 months ago
@kylearaki58 YES,,,THERE IS!! YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT! I HEARD IT CLEAR AS DAY!!
EXTIQUE 5 months ago
Sometimes you can't try to make sense out of everything.... You just gotta feel it. Just let the music be.
Allplussomeminus 6 months ago
odd time signature = halucinations.
instead of a single this is an odd or un-even signature, 33/8 could easily be improv in 11/3 or 3/11 haha every number has it's expression! actually there is 1,2. that's all, that's why odd numbers are so interesting. the beat on a scale of would come to the percentage of 3.666666667 or something like that alll numbers can be percieved as whole odd's or even's so whatever later bye
scorpian8king 6 months ago
Attack of the killer DX7s!
mootbooxle 6 months ago
I grew up listening to Don Ellis and Dave Brubeck, so this is no big deal. The exact counting depends on which beats you want to emphasize
luridplanet 6 months ago
Best way for me is to count to 9 once and then count to 8 three times, but I guess we've all got our own way of getting to 33. Absolutely brilliant though!
Hitmanfan91 6 months ago
very clever and also very cold
gregshell 6 months ago
His part writing is so creative! I love how melodic it is. How he takes a rhythmic shape on the octobans to his left and then tags it on the end of the measure on the huge tom to his right.
TylerWithWonkTheBand 6 months ago
He's the best!!
ollyfun 6 months ago
The feel to me is kind of like: 7/8, 5/4, 4/4, 4/4. No matter, it's still rather impressive.
generalbullmoose 6 months ago
The easier way to count is to count 3 full time (1234), 5 half-half time (12345) and 4 full time...
1234 1234 1234 12345 1234 1234 1234 1234
sorry but i'm french ;p
Giodallguitar 7 months ago
great feel and technique. Love it.
tamaman65 7 months ago
thank goodness, i gave up drumming for bass :D
aassyr1111 7 months ago
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+91+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+. or/ ta ka di me, ta ka di me, ta ka di me, da di gi ni dum, ta ka di me ta ka di me ta ka di me ta ka di me. and the subdivisions at 1:30 with a sixteenth not triplet value, count 5 groups of 6 plus 3 to resolve, this to me has a lot more of a natural odd time feel.
InHumanForm555 7 months ago
33/8 of boredom
amjan 7 months ago
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c0d3x001 7 months ago
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@amjan go learn some english! i think you mixed up the 2 words boredom and excitement
c0d3x001 7 months ago
Este tio tiene dos manos y dos pies derechos
cloack 7 months ago
el mejor que exisitra en tda inglaterra en tds los tiempos
danieldrums440 7 months ago
This guy is sick.......
bassclefjean1 7 months ago
it's one thing to count or play along with this 33/8. it's a whole nother thing to actually write and perform it on your own! Simon Phillips is an incredible musician who plays drums. not just a drummer per sa. Love him or hate him, there is no denying his amazing talent! He is a master in every sense of the word!
dublekik2 7 months ago
@robertgenito are you retarded?
Thegooblygoo 7 months ago
33/8 THE FUCK
DrumEagle 7 months ago
Because he can....doesn't mean he should
readerwriter 8 months ago
Amazing drums but I don't see many chicks shakin' to this.
DCSIGNR 8 months ago 38
@DCSIGNR
PRECISELY
djlivingfire 8 months ago
@DCSIGNR thats not the point
david30918 7 months ago
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RicktheTapDancer 7 months ago
@DCSIGNR EXACTLY!!! Gotta get the ladies shakin'!
RicktheTapDancer 7 months ago
@DCSIGNR duhhh
jochemstraatman 6 months ago
@DCSIGNR do, but then again im a bass player! so i love drummers!!!!!!!!! lol
babacool81 4 months ago
@DCSIGNR I don't think Simon is too concerned about babes and how to get them to shake. One of the greatest drummers to ever live.
eqsmooth 4 months ago
@eqsmooth You are quite right - Simon Phillips is a genius and I am taking the piss a bit which may annoy SP fans. I loved his session work throughout the 70s and 80s and wish we heard more of his stuff and quality drums in general in the main stream (although most likely in 4/4). The indie movement in the UK murdered creative drumming in the 90s over here and things are still limping along....
DCSIGNR 4 months ago
one bar of 17/16 and one bar of 16/16 = 33/16. This has an eighth note feel to it, so cycle that twice for one complete phrase and there's your 33/8
willV 8 months ago
@willV and the 17/16 can easily be mistaken for 9/8 because if you count it in cut time it ends on 9 with no corresponding "and", it would actually be the 1 of the next bar in "16/16" (4/4 or 8/8).
willV 8 months ago
@JonnyFunkMistro Cheers mate
jonorocko1 8 months ago
Love this its amazing what simon can do best drummer in the world especially with the time signature gosh he is amazing!
jonorocko1 8 months ago
@jonorocko1 it's all about splitting the various parts of the track up into groupings of various time signatures, it makes it a lot easier, this is how prog rock works
JonnyFunkMistro 8 months ago
@JonnyFunkMistro exactly, it can be really fun to mess around with, too. I play a song with my band and in the main line there are 2 bars of 4/4 and then a bar of 11/8, and I have a lot of fun with it-play 2 linear patterns in 11/16, 9/8+4 sixteenths, make the bar of 4/4 into a 7/8 and then stick the leftover eighth note onto the 11/8 and play is as a 12/8 but with triplet feel so its like metric modulation or something...lots of cool stuff. Crazy time signatures=epic.
boredomisexciting 8 months ago
So many music experts and enthusiasts here, I LOVE IT! Breaking down 33/8 time. I mean who does that?!?
ThomasMetal75 8 months ago
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To solve the mistery, rythm is 34/8. It goes 7/8 + 10/8 + 7/8 + 10/ 8or
12 12 123 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 123 12 12 123 123.
989Maxa 8 months ago
To solve the mistery, rythm is 34/8. It goes 7/8 + 10/8 + 7/8 + 10/ or
12 12 123 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 123 12 12 123 123.
989Maxa 8 months ago
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Neotails8762 8 months ago
@989Maxa That last "123"'s just a "12". It's definitely in 33/8 (well, I still say it's 33/16, what with the 8th notes being fairly quick)
Also, it'd be easier if each "12 12" was counted in groups of 4s and 6s, making it:
"1234-123 1234-123456 1234-123 1234-12345"
Thus, 7/16-10/16-7/16-9/16. 7+10+7+9=33.
Neotails8762 8 months ago 18
@Neotails8762 Yeah you're right. That last 123 is a 12. :) So it's 33/8, my mistake. Well it's the same rhythm, whether you count it as 33/8 or 33/16, I prefer counting in 8's. :)
989Maxa 8 months ago
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boredomisexciting 8 months ago
@Neotails8762 yeah, i prefer slow sixteenths to fast eighths. I like the way you count it, but to simplify it a little more, you could take the final two time signatures (7/16-9/16) and just count it like 4/4. 7/16+10/16+16/16+33 too.
boredomisexciting 8 months ago
I still don't get this...Can you explain me how I should count a bit better? Thanks
SmooThdw96 7 months ago
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@Neotails8762 I still don't get this...Can you explain me how I should count a bit better? Thanks
SmooThdw96 7 months ago
@Neotails8762 lawl i just count 5 eight times then a 3 as long as it adds up but out loud at the speed its so hard to even breath going through all that haha
goofball924 7 months ago
@goofball924 Do what I do and count only the odd numbers. :D
Neotails8762 7 months ago
@Neotails8762 nice analysis bro, the phrasing goes just like that... I actually could count along like that, I guess almost 10 years of drumming wasn't a total waste!
aakkoin 6 months ago
@Neotails8762
Finally I`ve got an explanation! Thanks for sharing this..uff quite simple ..but if you just know how to analize it...=
flavy1000 5 months ago
@Neotails8762 I like it.
avedisdrummer989 4 months ago
I think I've got it. 9/8 + 8/8 is close, but there is a fraction of a beat after the 9 count.
If you count 6/8, then 5/16 with swing, and then 8/8 it seems to work out? The emphasis still doesn't add up properly, but it seems to get the timing.
Frymononie 8 months ago
For 33/8, it's fairly fast - I would contest this is more 33/16 than 33/8.
Awesome though.
Neotails8762 8 months ago
it's one measure of 4/4, one measure of 9/8, and 2 more measures of 4/4
minime220220 8 months ago
2 viewers are stuck in the 4/4 world of boredom.
rataMacue22 9 months ago
Its 3x 8/8 and 1x 9/8..
I love this song because it is very natural..
BigBooy122 9 months ago
uggghh that first drumsolo couldnt have fit the song more perfectly. sickest thing i have heard in a while
bceltics99 9 months ago
This reminds me of those juggling competitions where people juggle 11 balls or whatever. Technical mastery for sure, but the entertainment value suffers. This sounds to me like generic elevator music. :-/
sparkloweb 9 months ago
Can anyone else in this part of the galaxy do this?
shaygahweh 9 months ago
@shaygahweh Marco Minnemann?
aihoschema 9 months ago
bahaha that was sick.
Slipstream0001 10 months ago
Shit, Simon is 2-3 three steps higher up on the drummer genious ladder than I thought...
nengstro 10 months ago
1 bar 4/4 and a half (plus) 1 bar 4/4
lettocarletto 10 months ago
should be 8/8, 9/8, 8/8, 8/8, i think
MetalJaska 10 months ago