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  • Thanks for sharing your deepest, heartfelt feelings and experiences, Krystle. Beautiful to see and hear...

  • I don't understand why people tend to use philosophical illustrations when it comes to hallucinogenic drugs. They were great for me in terms of it 'expanding my mind' years ago, but if someone feels that they can't do that without sober meditation, I think that they are risking health complications. Life in general for me is spiritual, all I have to do is really think without the assistance of drugs to understand how much I've progressed spiritually and how much I need to..

  • id like her to give me some Good head.. OOPPS GOD.. my bad..

  • she has a third eye?hahahahahahaha..me to...lol...

  • I trip just watching this girl talk.

  • You are 100% correct: You are in no way experiencing reality. So, mission accomplished, eh? Thank you, Miss Fleming, you call me when the shuttle lands.

  • Neither are you. :)

  • Sounds like Immanuel Kant's 'intellectual intuition' in noumena.

  • your far out man, subscribed.

  • "do you think "God" Is self conscious?"

    *We* are god.

  • Thanks Timothy Leary

  • do you think "God" Is self conscious?

  • you have some great messages which you put accross in some of your videos which are very seperate from a message of highs and using substances and so on. there are lots of them in this video. its great.

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  • I have seen this place. The very first time i did salvia extract. right after the hit i blacked out and awoke in it, i thought it was real but when i saw the real reality shrivel back i still didnt understand. Then i started doing research on salvia and almost all people who had the salvia "trip" was like the same experience i had, it felt like i was on a conveyor belt and there were no more things of the world, it was the world, rounded rectangles repeating wrapping me unfolding me color groups

  • Im not a big fan of hallucinogins & psychedelics anymore, but the experiences that I have had with them, while sometimes frightening & incomprenhensible, were truely amazing & more than just mere "hallucinations". Everybody should, at 1 point in their lives, experience a hallucinogenic trip. If this were the case, the world wouldn't b nearly as violent & materialistic as it is now. But the gov'ts dont want you to know or experience this because it is not in the best interests of their agenda's.

  • Thats so true, when you think about it. The governments makes psycadelics illegal because they don't want people out of there control, there afraid because they don't know what it does or how to manipulate people that are on it freeing therm minds. So they spread there propaganda and horseshit lies, linking it to heroin and cocaine, yet nobody has ever died on any natural enthogen.

  • haha. You must be a lot of fun at parties.

  • lol you have no idea...

  • I bet he is! And you must be pretty boring at parties

  • Oh you sure told me, didn't you champ! Ouch, point that rapier-sharp 'I know you are, but what am I' wit somewhere else, I'm ascairt!

  • Whatever

  • haha, you thinking that saying someone is fun is an insult. what a sad little person you must be.

  • 'You thinking that saying someone is[...]'; I'm sorry, is there supposed to be a coherent thought in there somewhere? If so, can you please reformat your observation and repost it in a way that makes sense to someone besides a bunch of stoner dropouts?

  • Similarly, the government of Thailand tried to stop the population there from being Buddhist, because it leads to a similar awareness of reality and politics simply being a game that is not "serious" or direly important. Awakened people are not good consumers.

  • agreed, the more aware you are the more self reliant you become

  • free thinkers are dangerous.

  • this video was actually amazing :) i havent done many trippy drugs but you speak the truth..x

  • I want to know if its a good idea and safe to consume kratom and shrooms at once. Kratom makes me thing nothing but happy thoughts so thats why I ask.

  • What happened to the rest? "We must try harder..."

  • Sge may seem liek a nutjob but she truly makes sence. I don't have the guts to try mushrooms but I always question friends what it is liek. I wish I wasn't so afraid of it. however I have tried Salvia divinorum and it scared the crap out of me , lol

  • Concentrated Salvia is scary. No shit. It scared me, but that is precisely what makes it absolutely nonaddictive. The good news is the active molecules 9Salvia Vs. Shrooms) don't even come near to each other in structure or function.

  • I can see from her demeanor that she's really seen and felt the One, intoxicated by the holy Spirit. Beautiful.

  • So which one do you need to experience it from God's eyes? i wanna be in a UFO and beat the crap out of a gray while i have fiot pleiadian woman on my lap lol? is that possible with these psychedelic drugs ..can i control my reality?

  • Yes, We are One, Namaste!

  • i experienced this with dxm & fly agaric overdose. it felt so real.

  • cum suck me off

  • that's out of order dude (get in the queue :P)

  • hahahaha

  • Collective? To be one with who? With stupid psychopaths, serial killers, bullfighters, animal tormentors and torturers? NEVER!

  • This is a question that I would also appreciate being answered.

  • one with everything

  • ...sounds like the buddhist hotdog seller joke.....

  • we are one with this expanding universal consciousness weather you want to accept it or not.

  • wow, you are fucking awesome.

    thank you for explaining it so vividly. thank you.

  • TRUTH

  • Wow, I couldn't agree with you more. I had a glimpse of cosmic consciousness when i took magic mushrooms. And I understand more about myself and the world around me every time I take them.

  • same here..i feel like i grow as a human every time i consume a healthy dose of psilocybin mushrooms. i also feel that i expand my knowledge of this reality.

    i recommend a healthy dose of psilocybin mushrooms to everyone.

  • You are so smart...I love the way you think!

  • She looks like a hippie

  • Everything spoken in this video is true. This message and the associated "godhead" or "cosmic consciousness" experience are the primary forces (really, the singular force) behind the global and individual transformations that are rapidly occurring in our world.

    And what she is talking about is most definitely real. I have experienced, with many other people and for prolonged periods of time, events that have supplied me with enough evidence for an eternity. Try meditating AND using enthegens:)

  • Psycheldeics opened my mind to god. Most atheists I talk to reject 'god' because they read religion in a literal sense. They cannot see the univeral message in all religions. Love unites us all and brings us closer to the truth that infact all is one, where as sins like hate and greed only divides us and keeps us in a state of ignorance. Spirituality is a part of evolution, we have to change our mind state, the external pollution is a reflection of our collective internal pollution.

  • you talk on the god head,yet you break your mind with these drugs and your nerves feelings...

    you damage your nature this way

  • come again lol

  • hippie . . .

  • I see a very attractive person with a deep level of understanding. It's good that she realizes that this level of consciuosness does exist, and that a persony can be turned on to it by entheogenic experiences. But the bottom line is that these substances are DECEIVING your conscious. It is not REAL. She is looking for the right thing in the wrong place. Ive caused damage to my nuerostructure and my nuero synapses long after ever using these drugs. It is dangerous. someone please save her.

  • yes. i will save her. young girl, come hither! you are sending the kundalini up the wrong channel (devil on my shoulder: "yeah, yeah, that's right!"). you must have a guru. your guru has to be my guru because he is the only one who is right (hehe).

  • "It is dangerous. someone please save her."

    LMFAO! OK, come on now and start preaching your christian bullshit. We all know that's what comes next.

  • Reminds me of parts of the book "Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge" by Steven Greer. Check it out!

  • i like you

  • You are a very beautiful and intelligent woman!

  • I don't think that the "cosmic consciousness" produced by tripping can compare to the cosmic consciousness of yogic awakening. It is hard to explain the reason but, no matter what level of oneness we experience on psychedelics, it is always an "altered" state, not at all like the crystal clear state of total consciousness through yogic awakening.

  • thing is dude, most of us dont have enough time to do yoga to the degree of gaining higher consciousness i for one need the shortcut. But i do see what you men though.

  • Call me if you ever need reprogramming. I've got another kind of awakening for ya'.

  • I experienced it I call it "the oneness"

  • those were some nice words

  • U ARE SO NEAT! AND ATTRACTIVE!!!

  • fresh my first video of neurosup was the anal dmt experience...awesome....alot of gret details and what not.

  • hi beautiful mind,

    i should start out by saying that i really appreciate what u are doing for our collective culture, giving the masses some much needed insight on the realms of altered states...your work now will be fondly remembered in the future i bet...

    so i just bought dr rick strassman's new book: "Inner Paths to Outer Space; Journeys to Alien Worlds Through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies"...i'd love to have a chat about it sometime...ill post again once ive digested it...

  • five stars for that ancient truth

  • I would be curious of your experiences with meditation. I've been exploring it myself for the past year, as well as studying the mystics and non-dualism. I understand when you struggle to explain it, because it IS beyond the mind, beyond words, so it should be hard to explain. All the famous mystics found it difficult, usually stuck in paradox. Keep up your curiosity!

  • The book, "This Is It" by Jan Kersschot, interviews with teachers of non-duality, available from E D Hamilton Booksellers at discount.

  • Californians are weird

  • me gustaria viajar por el cosmos contigo,

    beatiful voice, a like the shamans travels

  • Hey, have you tried Amanita Muscaria. If you did can you tell me about it. Does it work???

  • Robo-trippin

  • Just... I love Neuro Soup. Hey, try some hearth glycozides, as digitoxine, konvalmarine or konvalatoxine. I´ve tried

  • reality is a hoax.

  • I've had my legal amount of fun with you for the day. I'm going to let someone else take over and clean up the scraps. Have a nice day.

  • bamboo...scamper away....the less than one minute challenge i the best 'baboo' can do !!!

    LOL

  • Once again, the high school level answer, for half credit, was "oxidation and reduction."

  • bamboo >>> keep droppin' that "mescaline"...that'll get you far in life....how sad !

  • Once again, the high school level answer, for half credit, was "oxidation and reduction."

  • bamboo & Token >>> LOL....

    Empirical Evidence ???

    why don't you prove it to yourself (albeit i do not recommend it) !!!

    if you consume mescaline or any other psychotropic drug for any period of time you with observe changes in one's character, including, anxiety, stress, depression, delusinos...etc...etc

    actually, you can read scientific papers which clearly indicate such xenocompounds contribute to schizophrenia...

    so...simply i laugh at your challenge, the evidence is already available !

  • Way to change the subject, godboy. I am sure you can dig up some absolutely false US governemnt propaganda. Even I can do that. Now, prove your little angels and demons bit or STFU.

  • bamboo >> by the way...i received 3 full scholarships for a chemistry PhD...just for your info...LOL

  • Hey professor, what is a xenocompound?

  • wookete >>> you'd be the person who'd ask let's say Sir Richard Owen that very same question when he coined the term 'dinosaur' in 1841.

    in fact there's a plethora of contemporary coined terms.

    now if you really think hard & separate the significant parts...here i'll help you >>>

    xeno - compound

    then...work out what each term means & put them together...wow....that wasn't difficult was it ???

    i wonder what you'd say when they coined the term amino acid or proton....LOL

  • His point was it is a bullshitostupid compound word. It means "far away compound", dumbass. It was you trying to sound smart and use a prefix that any xenophobic moronic christofascist would know.

  • ...Far away, foreign, something you irrationally fear.

  • "actually, you can read scientific papers which clearly indicate such xenocompounds contribute to schizophrenia..."

    That's why I have a dozen peer reviewed journal articles from MAJOR journals that say mescaline has no long term harm and in all studies done on Native populations- over many years -it is near universally beneficial; much moreso than ANY RX drug can be deemed "beneficial" in a study population.

  • bamboo...i don't do 'sociology' i do science...LOL

  • "bamboo...i don't do 'sociology' i do science...LOL "

    I do it all.

  • LOL

  • bamboo...i think that was 23 seconds...LOL

  • I suspect Sir Richard Owen would be a bit more helpful when queried about the word than simply saying: "It's a terrible lizard","in Latin". Btw, I probably would ask him what a Dinosaur was, the concept of an extinct 50 ft flesh eating monster was probably hard to swallow in those days.

    A search for the word 'xenocompound' on Google yields exactly one result. It is hardly a contemporary term. I would advise against inventing your own language if you wish to be understood and taken seriously

  • so promoting togetherness, unity, and love is satanic?

    i disagree

  • cliffburton333 >>> there's is no "love" when people are toxifying their minds with psychotropic drugs.

    it's not unlike people who get blind drunk on wiskey, they think they're "together, united & loving" too....

    though these deluded people may think taking pschotropic drugs gives them pleasure....the pleasure is very temporary & the painful price you pay will reveal itself in time.

    Repent of you sins & put your trust in Jesus Christ & be set free from the bondage of sin & death.

  • Toxifying their minds? Maybe. Some drugs are dangerous. But the ones that are illegal, or the ones that provide temporany intoxicating effects aren't nessasarily the most dangerous. I find that alcohol has much more harmful effects on ones body, life, and personality than some of the other illegal drugs. (Though I'm not claiming to be an expert. Alot of the drugs Neurosoup talks about I've never seen.) But I think religion is more harmful than some of these drugs. But to each their own.

  • "But I think religion is more harmful than some of these drugs."

    AMEN! Religion has already done more harm to our species than drugs ever will.

  • "Religion? We have no religion, we drink ayahuasca." (quote from shaman in Peru)

  • thats the smartest shit i have heard in a long time.

  • "(Though I'm not claiming to be an expert. Alot of the drugs Neurosoup talks about I've never seen.)"

    Though that may be the case, you are ABSOLUTELY correct.

  • jay, i hate to tell you but the bible is just a book of fables. I read it. It was ok, but it was no harry potter... HAHAHHHAHAHA

  • "it's not unlike people who get blind drunk on wiskey, they think they're "together, united & loving" too...."

    Drivel. Absolute drivel. Alcohol does not promote a mindset of peace and love. Period. GO BACK TO SCHOOL YOU IGNORANT christofascist DRONE.

  • bamboo >> but "mescaline" does produce peace & love.

    again...why don't you serve you children or mother or father 'mescaline' for breakfast ?

    what a fool....what a fool.

  • Gee, I don't know. Why wouldn't someone put halucinogens in an unsuspecting person? Your a condesending jackass.

  • TokenDrone >>> Gee...as you'd say....if they're (melcaline and alike) so damn good for your health why would you care ??? retard !

  • I don't think things like that are for everyone. Theres people who wouldn't want to do those things. I just don't think It should be a crime for people who do with to indulge in such activitys. Unless they hurt someone elce.

    Not everything is for everyone. For example. You'd never catch me doing something I thought was immoral. Like cocaine. though this isn't restricted exclusively to drugs.

  • TokenDrone >>> i respect your choice to destroy your life...i'm speaking against those who foolishly claim these psychotropic xenocompounds such as 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine­ are so damn useful to one's life...in general.

    no...they ruin lives....if you think you can play around with this stuff & not get burnt you're kidding yourself !

  • I don't think they ruin lives. Some of these that are extremely physically addicting do ruin livees and should be strongly discouraged. (Such as cocaine, herion, methanphatemines. ) Also alot of legal drugs can ruin lives too. Such as addiction to oxycotin. Most of these dangerous drugs have pharmacutical counterparts. Such as ritalin.

  • TokenDrone > i can promise you they ruin lives !

    i'll tell you why...when you taken hallucinogenic drugs you open yourself up to the demonic spiritual realm...that's why natives use such drugs in ceremonies such as vodoo & other satanic practices.

    once you've opened a doorway to satan & his demons you'll pay a price...be rest assured, i promise you.

    people will see things such as depression, oppression, delusions, anxiety, fear...etc..develop in their life after they take these satanic drugs.

  • "i'll tell you why...when you taken hallucinogenic drugs you open yourself up to the demonic spiritual realm...that's why natives use such drugs in ceremonies such as vodoo & other satanic practices."

    And here you have it folks. Another racist, fascist, sexist, professional moralist; I knew it all along.

  • Let me add to that: Superstitious, ignorant, blindly faithful christian.

  • Can you provide evidence?

    Can you show proof of satan or demons? Are you saying all cultures apart from your own are satanic?

    Most of the thins you claim are satanic have rules against harming others. Like Wicca has a rule. 'If you hard someone, it comes back to you 3 times stronger'.

    Personally I've never used any of these halucinogens. I only smoke cannabis. I don't even smoke cigarettes and I rarely drink.

    Please show me some EVIDENCE.

  • "xenocompounds such as 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine are so damn useful to one's life...in general."

    Xenophobic much? These compounds are VERY useful for some people. The only reason you would talk such BS about MDMA is because you are afraid. You are afraid to leave your little christofascist bubble. If you had tried it and done all of the independent research then you would know, compared to ethanol, it is harmless.

  • bamboo > you're kidding yourself.

    you might as well book yourself into an early mental institution.

    make an early booking for depression, delusional thoughts, schizophrenia, oppression, delusions of grandure, fear, anxiety.....

    book yourself in....then comfort yourself with your own insane rantings !

  • Whatever you say godboy. I will give you $1000 (or to any christofascist 'charity' you want) if you can prove, WITH EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, the existence of angels and demons.

  • I will sell my truck and give you all the money if you can provide concrete evidence to support your demon bullshit.

  • Sorry about that. I type 60+WMP that's mescaline I believe. I bet he just cut and pasted off of Erowid.

  • Mescaline, which is about a dozen times safer than even MDMA.

  • bamboo >>> i've got a 1st class honors degee in chemistry so spare me the 'cut n paste' comment

  • BULLSHIT. No one with those credentials would be as absolutely ignorant as you are.

  • bamboo >>> why don't you test me ?

    off you go...ask me a chemistry question ?

    LOL

  • i'm waiting bamboo......i'm waiting.....LOL

  • Name the different reactions done to the ephedrine molecule to make methamphetamine and methcathinone. You have 1 minute.

  • mechanism, synthetic impurities, and analysis of clandestine methamphetamine samples is addressed. Stereochemical relation of (+)methamphetamine to its initial precursor (-)ephedrine or (+)pseudoephedrine is achieved by detection of (+)chloropseudoephedrine or cis-1,2-dimethyl-3-phenylaziri­dine, in the case of the first, and (-)chloroephedrine or trans- 1,2-dimethyl-3-phenylaziridine in the case of the latter.

  • Wrong. You fail. That is a cut and paste.

  • LOL.....next ???

  • You were wrong. I would have even given you half credit for the high school level answer "oxidation and reduction" although that is not the NAME of the rxns. YOU GET A ZERO on one of the EASIEST questions a newbee at the hive would have been able to answer.

  • LOL....next ???

  • bamboo...you best restrict me to less than 10 seconds..if you think you've got a hope...LOL

  • You were wrong and you cheated.

  • LOL...next ???

  • Why can't you admit you were wrong.

  • bamboo....i can't help you if you don't understand what you're reading....

  • "don't understand"

    LMFAO! Someday one of the masters will read this and blow soda through their nose.

  • bamboo....clearly you're a simple man.

    i can't help your lack of understanding.

  • "mechanism, synthetic impurities, and analysis of clandestine methamphetamine samples is addressed..."

    Jay, that's bullshit you cut and pasted right off of the summary of a webpage you jumped to in desperation. You didn't even bother to cheat in your own words.

  • bamboo...LOL...why don't you tell someone they've got less than 3 seconds to respond ???

    retarded !

    sorry, that's retarded...wake up.

  • bamboo...why don't you ask me a question outside you field of expertise.....namely...illicit drug use ???

  • "why don't you ask me a question outside you field of expertise"

    Who claimed to be the chemistry expert?

  • bamboo...are you that stupid that you don't understand the vast field that is called "chemistry" ?

    do you know there are fields such as analytical chemistry, physical chemistry, organic chemistry, inorganic chemistry...etc...etc...

    do you not comprehend that men study individual fields over a lifetime ?

  • Once again, the high school level answer, for half credit, was "oxidation and reduction."

  • bamboo...asking me how long the hairs on the back of your neck hardly makes for a reasonable challenge...are you retarded ???

  • And it is not the correct answer.

  • bamboo..LOL...next ???

  • bamboo....why don't you restrict me to less than 1 second...that'll prove you point...LOL

  • "Your a condesending jackass."

    Well, that too, but mainly he's just blindly faithful and correspondingly as ignorant.

  • bamboo4ameshigiri >>> sadly you can't even discern a warning when it hits you in the face with a mallet.

    be all means, pump yourself with mescaline, feed it to your children & your children's children.

    time will reveal to you i warned you, yet the fool mocks !

  • again...why don't you serve you children or mother or father 'mescaline' for breakfast ?"

    Because I prefer to take it at night and, unlike you, I WOULD NEVER FORCE SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO. Christofascist.

  • How do you know I don't put my faith in Jesus Christ? How do you know I don't repent for my sins on a daily basis? You are judging me.

  • Be rest assured, your "cosmic conscience" is nothing more than opening a portal to the demonic realm.

    you will see in time that you will pay a heavy price for delving into the demonic realm, not only that, you're actually promoting it.

    everything you promote on your channel is from Satan himself & i'm sure you don't even know it.

  • "everything you promote on your channel is from Satan himself & i'm sure you don't even know it."

    Fucking christ- take that ignorant drivel somewhere else.

  • bamboo4ameshigiri >>> why don't you drop such heroin tonight & tell me tomorrow how wonderful it is & how it's less dangerous than praying to God.

    fool.

    now doubt you 'care' for universal consciousness too, is that right ?

    we'll see how much you care about the universe on your death bed.

    no bamboo4tamesshigiri....you'll be very self orientated on your death bed, not unlike now.

    yet you foolishly boast of the wonderful drug culture....wow, what can say to that stupidity.

  • This is not your church. Take that ignorant religious bullshit somewhere else. And apparently you ARE ignorant enough to think heroin and mescaline are on par. I honestly pity you for your ignorance.

  • bamboo4tameshigiri >>> why don't you serve your children or you mother or father mescaline for breakfast ??? Idiot !

  • Whatever you say godboy.

  • Aside from that, godboy, mescaline is the central sacrament of several organized religions around the world- INCLUDING the Native American Church. It is perfectly legal for some of us to consume and it is infinitely more spiritual than goofy hats, a cracker and a sip of wine.

  • I need to meet you

  • Very good video. Thanks! :)

  • yep, can't argue with any of that..well said love

  • shes hypnotic, i cant stop watching! goddess!

  • NeuroSoup has some interesting points here.

    Initially,why I went to this site,I thought there may be mention of a book 'Cosmic Consciousness' by Richard Maurice Bucke.

    Highly recommended.

  • Sad that no one has made a real relevant remark.

    Sure,hallucinogens can induce some to a higher realm if they're inclined. I've been through anything you can name many times and know.

    Still,at a time without any substances when I was seeking real hard, it came. The love & joy I had was indescribable. The feelings don't last and you come down,yet you retain it.

    Main thing is,we are limited and imperfect. The ultimate goal for our being is to find God; it is only through Jesus Christ.

  • "The ultimate goal for our being is to find God; it is only through Jesus Christ."

    Excuse me if I happen to call you on your bullshit.

  • It helps to have an open mind.

    Did you come to that conclusion after a lot of searching and inquiry, or did you always believe in Jesus?

  • mercurius

    Early on,I had a belief in God,but not strong. After college,I really sought Him; what the purpose of everything was; why was there evil,death etc..

    I read books. Also,I was purifying my body with fasting & a strict natural diet. Most importantly I was pleading my prayers. What eventually occurred- I had love,tolerance & forgiveness for people I previously did't like at all. Weirdest thing is I could not feel any other way.

    There's a lot more . Blessings.

  • That's interesting. in my own experience, I also had a "not strong" belief in God early on, and considered turning to Christianity. However, I found it to be too misguided and confused, and eventually looked into Buddhism, which seemed to me much more rational, insightful, and frankly, true. I believe thoroughly in compassion, forgiveness, etc, and in Buddhism, this is a practise which can be cultivated over time.

    To each his own.

  • There are good "lessons" in all beliefs. Sure, Christians have had a bad rap and have done terrible things. I used to make fun of them; I didn't understand.

    The core belief is the issue. We are obviously so screwed up here, God had to show us how to live & be (His being in Christ). Good drugs can be cool & amazing,yet the most mystical is God's Holy Trinity. It is the only Truth.

  • kub73158: "only" Why only? Some other variations might like a little credit, also. But , alas! Such is the nature of organized religion. It perpetuates itself by excluding all other options; getting its followers hooked to believe their *source* is the only one possible. Too bad! Its like competing corporations, or political nations etc.

    The source is always waiting there with *no strings attached*.

    Just waiting. Always. Every-way. All day. All night. Hey, hey. You can go that way.

    This i say

  • etnessi-thanks. I said other beliefs have their good points.

    We are but piddly things in the infinitely vast universe. On earth,despite so much beauty,there's too much ugliness. Perfection is the goal. For our souls to be everlasting we need to be without blemish; perfect.

    Too many think they're tough or cool and put on this self reliance thing. It's good somewhat,but it only can get you so far.

    Selfishness & pride (insecurity) are man's downfall.

    To get out- seek for goodness & humility.

  • kub73158: so you think,i think. i think that you think that thinking thoughts is real. you think i think that thinking thoughts are real. but it's just thinking about thinking,really. *real* exists outside of thinking and thought. its called *the wild* or *nature*. life and the universe have their own laws completely independent and completely *other*. its scary and incomprehensible, but absolutely thrilling and wonderful. find out about it. this Jesus stuff is asinine. get a grip!

  • hahhahahhahahahahahhaah

  • A person can experience cosmic-consciousness without entheogens.But it's like lightening,it might strike,it might not.And when people say that the way to go, is without entheogenic help("drugs")like meditation etc.etc.,i just figure,of course,since most of these methods they recommend are legal,then they're going to pick those those difficult and time consuming(legal)ones first.If entheogenic Churches and other rites were commonly available,not much would be said,about meditation as a "way".

  • Yes meditation is time-consuming (not really difficult) but it is more thorough than drugs and much much clearer, like, crystal clear. Drugs might teach you some valuable lessons about reality, but they are all layered underneath some really crazy stuff that will quite likely confuse the message. Plus there are no bad trips on meditation! But, you know, whichever method works for you is the right one.

  • I remember an Indian guy once told me, about magic mushrooms, that its kind of like a short-cut - the message is the same as that which comes from meditation, but without all of those years of training, your mind isn't really ready for that kind of leap, and so it will be overwhelmed and you'll likely forget it.