Głupie szkopy, najpierw śmiali się z nas w 39 w propagandowych filmach, że używamy tak "przestarzałego sprzętu" jakim były pociągi pancerne, a jak widać sami ich używali dużo później... Również kilku przejętych i rozbudowanych polskich pociągów...
An armored train would be vulnerable to track sabatage. Although if they could prevent hangups by guarding and rails and keeping some repair equipment on the train. They probebly delt with that alot.
Even an american such as myself can't deny that germany was a powerful nation back in those days. Im just glad we didnt have to face them all on our own, we wouldve gotten fucked big time.
All the money and genius put into these completely futile creations...all up in smoke, less than two yers later. Would that humanity use it's gifts to create not a world of war..but a world of peace. It's still not happening. The USA spends more on arms than the rest of the world combined....including China. Ike was right.
Limited capabitlites..But it could carry endless amounts of ammo and supplies...And could pretty much have no limit to the weight! Meaning it could be armored with very think plating!!!
Armored trains are great, but in the end all you have to do is blow up the rail line and they are screwed. They are very limited and the lines must be constantly guarded and patrolled. Then there is constantly a looming threat of air raids and missile strikes. When functional and mobile they are a great help but they are far too costly to maintain. Resources could be better spent elsewhere.
@davedavedaveannoy1 thats why you build several lines interconnecting so if one route is sabatoged there are 3 more, just go back 5 miles and change over to the next one I get you point tho, it can only go where the track can and if somebody attacks it , well.. its a sitting duck basically to any aircraft or IED attack
@GodlessMartyr666 Yes, it is limited, but...It could be extremely effective at suppressing civil unrest in urban areas and averting rebellions and possible revolutions, due to your average civilians lack of advanced weaponry it could serve a purpose in policing and eliminating disorder and anarchy.
@Scharfschutzen1: Because we've heard all that stuff a million times before elsewhere. Why bring it up again when this is a video of a purely military subject? Why bring your politics in here? This is not the place.
SD = Security Details that ran the death camp system AND pursued partisans. Typically, prisoners were tortured for information then stripped, shot and buried.
Partisans were never sent into the PoW system.
These 'captured' partisans were most likely role playing for the camera. Staged footage is the bulk of the footage available from WWII Germany.
You'll see the same staging with Soviet films, most famously the encirclement scene west of Stalingrad and the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau.
To be assigned to the Recon Battalion was considered a privilege, and an elite status in the German Army. To be assigned to the Storm battalion, a discipline.
Armoured trains were expensive, and they were used as fast-moving Fire-support, especially in the remote areas of the occupied zones. They could simply respond, and provide a great deal of fire support, faster than a Mech Unit could respond.
@Jimderkaisser mabie for transport... but i dont think russia launches icbms from trains.... 2 easy a target... when a nuclear submarine can launch icbms and stay undetected 300m underwater
A bit strange they use it to combat partisans. I think you would normally use something more discreet to have the element of surprise.
@SteffanLlwyd: I also think trains are mainly used to carry artillery - probably they did that because the guns on this train were already inferior to Soviet artillery.
They did I imagine, partisans blew the tracks all the time. But the Germans were hip to that and would have troops covering the roadbed if using the armored train.
@mikey1978416 German Recon Commander"Ok, we are under light fire and our recon vechile is doing great, but we need you to bring in your armored train and start firing randomly and blow shit up so it looks good for the camera......."
Note that the narrator called them bandits. The Germans used that distinction so they could treat partisans as civilians, thus exempt from the Geneva and Hague convention concerning prisoners of war. The distinction worked: List, von Weichs, and other Generalfeldmarschals were acquitted of war crimes (the "Hostage" trials) at Nuernburg.
The armored car is a captured French Panhard, equipped with the German long range antennae. It scouted ahead to detect breaks in the track and ambushes. The Germans called it a Panzerspaehwagen 204(f), and it was used extensively by the Ordnungspolizei for anti partisan action.
Does somebody know the name of the song at 0:57 ?
BenjaminG17992 1 day ago
Głupie szkopy, najpierw śmiali się z nas w 39 w propagandowych filmach, że używamy tak "przestarzałego sprzętu" jakim były pociągi pancerne, a jak widać sami ich używali dużo później... Również kilku przejętych i rozbudowanych polskich pociągów...
Lololoney 4 weeks ago
The small recon vehicle in front looked like Herr Gruber's Little Tank on rail wheels! ( See 'Allo Allo' for reference.)
blindpugh12 1 month ago
WIE ARE UNDER HEAVY FEUER MEIN FÜRHER!!!!!
Zen wie haz no choize... CALL IN ZEE TRAIN!!!!!!!
MeierTV 2 months ago
nice video............
tothefuckingmoss 2 months ago
...and then they got brutally tortured and killed...
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
mother of god Thomas, what happened to you?
MeierTV 5 months ago 2
@MeierTV He got drafted.
Gunny761 5 months ago
@MeierTV, Thomas has been going to war since the U.S. Civil War, sorry.
Wolfen443 2 months ago
this is bullshit
windatekili 6 months ago
@windatekili U R BULLSHIT
MrHEILDEMFUHRER1 6 months ago
@MrHEILDEMFUHRER1 i mean this narrator s propaganda
windatekili 6 months ago
An armored train would be vulnerable to track sabatage. Although if they could prevent hangups by guarding and rails and keeping some repair equipment on the train. They probebly delt with that alot.
MrSkywalker113 7 months ago
@MrSkywalker113 Obviously. Tell us more obvious stuff, dude.
clearlogicify 6 months ago
@MrSkywalker113 Pretty obvious since they mentioned this on wikipedia.
Cacowninja 4 months ago
the 5 dislikes are from the people that were captured by the germans :)
SgtPolonsky 11 months ago 13
Great clip; thanks for uploading. Regards.
Splitskirts 11 months ago
Thats amazing! How many were made?
Joniclem 1 year ago
Guter Bericht des Panzerzugs. Danke!
notaire2 1 year ago
Even an american such as myself can't deny that germany was a powerful nation back in those days. Im just glad we didnt have to face them all on our own, we wouldve gotten fucked big time.
StrongGayBlackMan 1 year ago
Interesting Newsreel and Armored Trains such as the one in the video is hardly mentioned in most WWII Documentaries.
EvilFingers 1 year ago
@EvilFingers they did not last very long with airpower around
jtdragonrider 8 months ago
All the money and genius put into these completely futile creations...all up in smoke, less than two yers later. Would that humanity use it's gifts to create not a world of war..but a world of peace. It's still not happening. The USA spends more on arms than the rest of the world combined....including China. Ike was right.
followthefleet1 1 year ago
@followthefleet1 Jesus Christ what a pussy you are
tHeWasTeDYouTh 1 year ago
@tHeWasTeDYouTh ...And what a poor excuse for a MAN you are.
followthefleet1 1 year ago
@followthefleet1 Ike was right.
Rooster1Cogburn 10 months ago
Limited capabitlites..But it could carry endless amounts of ammo and supplies...And could pretty much have no limit to the weight! Meaning it could be armored with very think plating!!!
pardomtlca 1 year ago
Armored trains are great, but in the end all you have to do is blow up the rail line and they are screwed. They are very limited and the lines must be constantly guarded and patrolled. Then there is constantly a looming threat of air raids and missile strikes. When functional and mobile they are a great help but they are far too costly to maintain. Resources could be better spent elsewhere.
davedavedaveannoy1 1 year ago
@davedavedaveannoy1 thats why you build several lines interconnecting so if one route is sabatoged there are 3 more, just go back 5 miles and change over to the next one I get you point tho, it can only go where the track can and if somebody attacks it , well.. its a sitting duck basically to any aircraft or IED attack
GodlessMartyr666 1 year ago
@GodlessMartyr666 Yes, it is limited, but...It could be extremely effective at suppressing civil unrest in urban areas and averting rebellions and possible revolutions, due to your average civilians lack of advanced weaponry it could serve a purpose in policing and eliminating disorder and anarchy.
davedavedaveannoy1 1 year ago
@Scharfschutzen1: Because we've heard all that stuff a million times before elsewhere. Why bring it up again when this is a video of a purely military subject? Why bring your politics in here? This is not the place.
ShizukuSeiji 1 year ago
@Scharfschutzen1
You are absolutely correct.
TankerUSA 1 year ago
SD = Security Details that ran the death camp system AND pursued partisans. Typically, prisoners were tortured for information then stripped, shot and buried.
Partisans were never sent into the PoW system.
These 'captured' partisans were most likely role playing for the camera. Staged footage is the bulk of the footage available from WWII Germany.
You'll see the same staging with Soviet films, most famously the encirclement scene west of Stalingrad and the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau.
staydput 1 year ago
Die sollte man fuer S-Bahnstrecken in kulturell maximalbereicherten Stadteilen einsetzen.
nethead4223 1 year ago 3
Partisans "Hm, okay, next time we need a hidden camp, let's find one away from a rail line... that'll screw them and their silly trains."
@Scharfschtzen1 = this is hardly the place to bring in those sorts of politics. Again.
ShizukuSeiji 1 year ago
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ShizukuSeiji 1 year ago
Cool.
fsbritney 1 year ago
how would you like to be in that 232 scouting the rail line.... Target? lol
lehighmark 1 year ago
To be assigned to the Recon Battalion was considered a privilege, and an elite status in the German Army. To be assigned to the Storm battalion, a discipline.
tcrlaf 1 year ago
The SD took part in a attack?....thought the SD were desk jockeys
misfitfiend83 1 year ago
Ich habe bewaffneten Zug zum ersten mal gesehen.
GSHelga 1 year ago
armored trains.. this looks so unreal
FlamerK6 1 year ago
I guess those partisans minutes were numbered when they were filmed.
strafrag1 1 year ago
Pretty novel idea at the time, Fire support and a Barracks rolled into one
MadMilitiaMen 1 year ago
Armoured trains were expensive, and they were used as fast-moving Fire-support, especially in the remote areas of the occupied zones. They could simply respond, and provide a great deal of fire support, faster than a Mech Unit could respond.
tcrlaf 1 year ago
armored trains = the definition of obsolete
rondotwoKG 1 year ago
@rondotwoKG
Indeed such tactic is obsolete today. Butl Russia still operate armored train for nuclear weapons (camouflaged as civilian train).
Jimderkaisser 1 year ago
@Jimderkaisser mabie for transport... but i dont think russia launches icbms from trains.... 2 easy a target... when a nuclear submarine can launch icbms and stay undetected 300m underwater
101andrewj 1 year ago
@101andrewj
Search for the "RT-23 Molodets" ... decommissioned two years ago.
Jimderkaisser 1 year ago
this was probably just a training excercise.
tagaEskinita 1 year ago
A bit strange they use it to combat partisans. I think you would normally use something more discreet to have the element of surprise.
@SteffanLlwyd: I also think trains are mainly used to carry artillery - probably they did that because the guns on this train were already inferior to Soviet artillery.
verwoerd 2 years ago
They didn't use ONLY armoured trains. They where used as moveable firebases in conjunction with groundtroops.
If trains were the most important transportation in the Iraq war today, USA would surely have armoured trains also...
ml191172 2 years ago
Soviet's should have placed mines on the track. "Boom" Armoured train's taken care of.
Savchenkov1 2 years ago
@Savchenkov1 Yes, armoured trains are very vulnerable and good only for mounting long-range artillery.
SteffanLlwyd 2 years ago
They did I imagine, partisans blew the tracks all the time. But the Germans were hip to that and would have troops covering the roadbed if using the armored train.
jakefree25 1 year ago
if i saw that i would fuking run!!!
krzykid6969 2 years ago
man germans are so smart and clever
tanks4sell 2 years ago
i think the tank scout up front was more of a mine detector. kudos to the guys who had to drive that thing.
nairda55555 2 years ago
first time ever a train has been called for backup
mikey1978416 2 years ago 51
lol xD
Potatonaught 2 years ago
hahaha lol true
tanks4sell 2 years ago
@mikey1978416 German Recon Commander"Ok, we are under light fire and our recon vechile is doing great, but we need you to bring in your armored train and start firing randomly and blow shit up so it looks good for the camera......."
ualien42 1 year ago
@mikey1978416 hahahahha XD
wendyspwnsu 8 months ago
the train could have been stopped merely by demanding to see their tickets :)
granskare 2 years ago 27
Amazing they need one today in Afgahnstan
kinghetzer 2 years ago
5 *****
TurkGucu3457 2 years ago
Sweet.
Thanks for the vid...
Today we call them 'insurgents'. lol
the82spartans 2 years ago
that was fuken awsome!!! hahah woohooo go germany!!
tofulenny 2 years ago
this is a awesome video. wat a cool way to create a weapon. then the tank in front on the tracks is fukin awesome. 5 stars
yunggunz31 2 years ago 2
Note that the narrator called them bandits. The Germans used that distinction so they could treat partisans as civilians, thus exempt from the Geneva and Hague convention concerning prisoners of war. The distinction worked: List, von Weichs, and other Generalfeldmarschals were acquitted of war crimes (the "Hostage" trials) at Nuernburg.
suhiir 2 years ago
alikill, you're right.
The armored car is a captured French Panhard, equipped with the German long range antennae. It scouted ahead to detect breaks in the track and ambushes. The Germans called it a Panzerspaehwagen 204(f), and it was used extensively by the Ordnungspolizei for anti partisan action.
suhiir 2 years ago 2
I could never understand appeal of armored trains. Seems one guy with a wrench could cut the tracks and ruin the fun...
pawelpap9 2 years ago 2
they did and got shot for it.
michaelwright999 2 years ago
wow thats a cool train
gamerkid1177 2 years ago
5*****
panzermadame 2 years ago
Alles nur Show. Die Partisanen griffen nie starke Einheiten an. Überfalle nur auf leichte Ziele.
Karlowl67 2 years ago
they learned a few things from american civil war trains.
Rico8458 2 years ago
soviets had far superior armored trains
21StCenturyWarfare 2 years ago
Honestly
I'd leave my car at home and comute to work by train if it looked like this!
:o)
arasaka2020tm 2 years ago 4
I enjoyed this reel.
alikill 2 years ago
what can move a that5 heavy train?? a armored Br 44?? or two??
Buemmo 2 years ago
its like a fortress on wheels!
tagaEskinita 2 years ago
Seems putting railroad wheels on a tank (armored car) would kind of limit its capabilities. If a train was using the tracks... whoops.
taofledermaus 3 years ago
I think its a scout. Checks the track for sabotage before the train arrives.
alikill 2 years ago
Yes, it's a Panzerspaehwagen 204(f). (See my extended comments on the video's page).
suhiir 2 years ago
what a beast!
corrion1 3 years ago
That train would make an exeptional model!
HO or OO would be good.
Interesting vidio. 5*****
stuartthegrant 3 years ago