@melis256 B finally done) At that point, you're making a field which has the same effect as diamagnetism, but without the negative effects of magnetism itself, such as lifting your body by the soft tissues which end up support your bones, but gets yanked back down by your fillings, pins in your limbs, et c. Without Higgs boson based technology, we still have no means of producing this effect.
May I then ask, have you seen that interview with Dr. Podkletnov from 2004?
Well if you haven't I can provide a link, but anyway I went and watched it through and he explains quite a bit about how his gravity modification should work and somewhere around the middle of the vid he comes out with something about that the sup-cons and the BEC are not the important part but the fact that it polarizes space and that can be done with conventional materials.
@melis256 Regarding A) show me where you think there's any claim in wikipedia or other resource where superconductors are BECs. Electrons would not flow over their surface if they were BECs; that's acting as two separate particles, not one.
Polarizes space: Explain what you intend to mean, because that has no physics concept; you can't polarize the surface of the Universe. If you could, you'd risk creating a lower-energy vacuum, which would alter the whole Universe once nucleated.
On A) Well they are definitely tying it very closely together in the Fermionic condensate article, and the same with superfluid Helium 4.
On B) Got it from here: AgyAFElQZcU
don't ask me why he explain it as he does but his experiments seem to go further than what we have talked about. As he states that the superconductors are only good since it is easier to model on and experiment with.
@melis256 B still cont) The effective measurements were only sustained within the field, which is why he initially claimed it had gravity shield effects, something theoretically present in some quantum field theories, but the realistic means of doing this sits far outside of the structure of his experiments, as the energy needs to be at a value equivalent of that of the combined masses total effect (e.g. weight of the lightest object).
@melis256 B cont) The materials shown to be effectively repelled consisted of diamagnetic components, which is why the early 90's research sparked little controversy.
@melis256 B) There have been no successful small scale attempts at reproducing Dr. Podkletnov's research, despite insistence otherwise. If the effect existed, you wouldn't need a larger system to show the effect (just objects small enough for the effective field). I mention this at it's his preferred claim that others failed in producing a large enough system.
It needs some minor alterations for Y3K: light tealish colour with the red stripe made along the horizon, the lift fins moved to the back and expanded (along with the tail fin, which needs to be much larger), move the turbines to the back with the intake being two portholes on the bottom of ither side, an anti-debris gun with 360x180 observation port on the top, the payload deployment bay should be at the bottom, a series of windows, and it should be renamed The USS Planet Express Ship.
Stupid, the future of space travel is indeed electrical but not this idiotically inefficient way of propulsion. There have now in over a decade existed an inertia-less (non Newtonian) gravity wave drive. Using the frequency and amplitude of the alternating current feed into it, it accelerates the craft to near the speed of light while the wave passes by. Using the effect discovered by Dr. Podkletnov to modify gravity this can be achieved, search "pulsed warpdrive" on google. 1hour trip to Mars.
@melis256 I just thought your joke was funny. If it wasn't a joke, you might want to notice that despite many attempts, Dr. Podkletnov's spinning good fun is not gravito-electric, as it wouldn't have the problems it has with a variety of materials, and 2% is statistically insignificant if it was usuable -- put it another way, the energy equivalence after one day would be less than an ion drive.
A gravity wave drive would involve non-accelerator Higgs production capability.
If you are referring to the "experiment" where NASA tried testing out what Dr. Podkletnov had found for then afterwards stating it was to "insignificant" is beacuse they didn't use a superconductor but just silver...
See, everything with mass which spins generates a gravito-magnetic field and what has been theorized is that like iron amplifies a magnetic field the materials used by Podkletnov does the same trick for gravito-magnetism.
Indeed if it should be used for propulsion it would need to be a superconducting superfluid in a donut ring spinning around near the speed of light until it can not be spun around any faster and start emitting gravity waves proportional to the amplitude and frequency of the acceleration coils.
Furthermore they need to be 2 or more in kinda the same positions as the engines of the V-22 Osprey, of course reversed quadro-polarized...
@melis256 The amount of energy to accelerate something still able to act as a superfluid to even a quarter the speed of light would be the same level of power used by the eastern half of the United States. This wouldn't "emit gravity waves." Energy-mass equivalency does not work in this manner. Energy can be transformed into a state with mass, but to produce mass-like waves would involve a lot more than proving the existence of the Higgs boson.
Well actually it is not a wave moving matter as much as it is actually a space-time wave moving the space which then happen to be inhabited by some matter.
This guarantees that whatever is within this part of space-time, no matter its mass, gets moved a certain distance proportional with the amplitude of the space-time wave (when single wave is fired).
The wave travels with the speed of light but the objects caught in it still undergo the standard relativistic effects.
@melis256 Yes, I see your theory, but the only way to warp space time involves mass, which means energy. If you take the Alcubierre drive, unless we have moved beyond minimum energy input to Higgs production, it currently requires negative energy equivalency particles which would still be expressed in their absolute value in mass (or balancing a number of neutron stars and accelerating some of them faster than light). For your ideas to be functional, you need new physics.
@melis256 Space time is the literal surface of the Universe. To warp it requires being capable of manipulating the densities of energy within it. Unless you've been holding onto a Nobel Prize winning paper regarding the vacuum, the effects attributed to the Higgs mechanism or new field theory that allows for hyper-dimensional tensor folds out of acquirable forms of energy we can manipulate now, I cannot currently foresee a means of creating the method you have described.
@melis256 I would also like to apologise if that sounded harsh. It is theories like this that got me into theoretical physics in the first place. I've been a fan of 'Star Trek' since there was only the one. I've spent a lot of time working to find the requirements of fictional and conspiracy based drives, both supra- and superluminal, in space and on Earth. I love it; it's like crack for me, but when gravity/space-time gets involved, it involves a lot more energy than I'd like.
Well depending on how much energy you put into the system you will get different amplitudes of wave. The greater the amplitude the closer to the speed of light the objects get pushed and the longer the objects will be caught in the wave the longer the objects will "travel"/be moved.
The whole point is that it is very flexible but it will never go beyond the speed of the wave e.i. the speed of light.
You only need negative energy if you want to go past the speed of light.
With this you can set any arbitrary speed below the speed of light as a function of amplitude and frequency and there are never performed any ac/-deceleration.
I don't think it would be very different from the nuclear submarines we have today.
With some nice capacitors the required bursts of energy could most likely be met.
@melis256 I can understand how you're looking at it, but you want to produce some class of transverse wave that can move through the vacuum, which means both compression and decompressive forces, a peak and a trough. Even if you didn't need the trough, you would need to effectively put a lot of mass in one place for an instant that would then quickly disappear without reacting to anything else.
My suspicion is a misunderstanding of how space-time transforms around the energy present.
Space time doesn't "stretch" or form and deform like many simplified analogies suggest, e.g. the rubber sheath analogy of the space-time topology. It's more along the lines of extra space forming around mass bearing energy. There are calculations which cover this effect, including ghost particles that NEARLY balance out the cosmological constant, producing the effective space.
@melis256 Or, looking at the experiment which gave rise to faith in ether-free relativity, light didn't roll along the outer edge of a bowl created by the Sun, it, more to the effect, saw more dense space the closer it got to the center of the mass. A photon can pass around a gravitational body if, after adjusting for this space, it is not aimed at, nor loses one whole number value of its spin. When a photon loses its spin, it decays and falls to the mass, hence, a black hole.
@melis256 Here's some YouTube codes for an explanation that partly covers these ideas: GOgsn5NECWw and fg1B4ZLTzPo
Nottingham's multiple channels have become a favourite form of entertainment for me. This is called Sixty Symbols, but there are a few others (plus a site for each). It neither presumes technical knowledge or speaks down to the viewer; so, I feel comfortable recommending them to almost anyone capable of using a computer.
I have a paper where it is explained how you would be able to generate a forward moving wave which is created behind and annihilated in front from 2 gravitational quadrupoles (mounted on the midpoint of the craft at a distance of the radius of the craft) which receives their energy for emission when their respective angles in rotation are correct.
It is the waves interference that makes this possible.
It is these emitters we use the spinning superconductors for, to amplify the gravito-magnetic forces and emit the gravity waves in the correct directions to interfere in the back and the front.
@melis256 Here's the problem in physics you're not appreciating, the gravitomagnetic effect only remains valid with very small particles that allow for the usability of Maxwell's equations. What you want it to mean, it doesn't. I understand that Maxwell's equations and Lorentz superficially appear to suggest some fundamental quantum-field-like effect, but it doesn't. To apply a quote of 'Princess Bride, "You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means."
@melis256 A) No, superconductors, by the very function of superconductivity, do not behave as a single particle. A superconductor must posses multiple states simultaneously to transmit electrons as cooper pairs without resistance. Multiple states means it is not acting as a single particle. Neither does a superfluid act as a BEC, despite popular explanations that may cause the two to sound alike. To be a superfluid involves the atoms' ability to function distinct from one another.
uuuuuummm....' Ya.. I have absolutely no comment on that.
You should talk to your professor about rewriting/adding to sources of knowledge about the subject on the Internet if you feel something needs to be changed/clarified. Wikipedia would be a good place to start a little crusade.
@melis256 Sorry if that seemed weirdly broken up, but YT's been doing some weird math with character counts. If I hit reply, I got 190 characters, and three letters later, I'd have 176 characters. I don't know why they're putting me on Beta or if there's a system wide BS glitch, but I hope it wasn't too hard to follow.
the problem with electrical drives is that the output thrust they create is spread out over a large area. they are effient with fuel but not when transfering there power into thrust. i would compress the ions so we can harness the true power of these engines rather then wasteing. also the gas would be heat as it squeezes and pushed faster out the exhaust wich would shorten trips to mars for example.
Its been said that don't bother leaving on an really long space journey. Because the rate of tech evelovtion has reached a point where there will aways be a faster ship. If you start you will be soon be passed by a ship that left later but is going faster. Since this is always true then there is no point in leaving. I see a string of ships like beads. This wave would eventually collapse. But, on arrival all but the last to leave would be as anchronistic as Jules Vern. FILO system.
Until the principle of strapping a chair onto a controlled explosion is totally abandoned we aint going anywhere. As for nuclear drives OMG! We freak out about safety on Earth & put nuclear generators inside thick reinforced concrete bunkers but it's OK to put them in a relatively flimsy rocket ship and go visit the neighbours. Flying about in a potential dirty bomb. Yeh how to win friends and influence the universe, brilliant! Now Electric sounds hot or cool, tap into all them charged particles
Technology is for killing our own species (Global Genocide) not for spreading our seeds to the Galaxy! We will be all dead in the next 50-100 years! Shit I cant even get along with my neighbor let alone the whole world.. we are a lost cause!
if the world could unite in this stuff without money worries and abullshit and actually work for the future of out galactic adventure, and all the shit you know!? like star trek, i think they said somthing about that.
I am pleased to see a spaceship/spaceplane that has a style like right out of science fiction, leaving the earth like that one naboo royal cruiser, this one looks a lot like it. This is so cool:)
@antifrituras Well if they have their on board gardens and recycle.....yes. What do you think some of us farmers use to enrich our fields if the store bought stuff is to expensive LOL. They have been recycleing urineas part of the water supply on the ISS since 2009.
@candr But you know - agriculture is not easy.... And if in space have a phenomena with plants??? And if they cannot produce their veggies or fruits - whatever..... ???? Yes... I know... Compost it's that they uses for make plants minor veggies produce...
@antifrituras Of course it wouldn't be easy, but you got totake a little Earth with you. Consider a submarine with a crew of over 130 can stay down with stored food for 3 or 4 months. Now consider the samesized ship with only a dozen crew. Of course the greater the trip the more likely you have to grow your own stuff, one of the reasoms the ISS is experimenting with plants, and in a small way animals. Actually the biggest problem in not food, but bone loss.
Talk, talk, talk, that's all that these scientists do, how about BUILDING the fucking thing! All we hear is the great and glorious future of space travel, if it can be done, DO IT ALREADY!!!!!
@borntolose1970 "Talk, talk, talk, that's all that these scientists do, how about BUILDING the fucking thing! "
Sure, let's cripple the entire earth's economy and reduce living standards for 100 years so we can travel to the nearest sun, and find a bunch of death lifeless rocks.
@borntolose1970 Dude, we didnt even launch the ISC completely, and didnt even begin researching the various capabilities and effects of space exc. and you want to explore our solar system. Even then, the propulsion system is just laughable for deep space exploration. We should research on how to efficiently gather anti-matter in large amounts and safely store it. Anti-matter engines is what will ultimately launch us to the nearest stars.
@borntolose1970 are you naive? it takes research and study just to be able to conceive of building the mechanisms able to do this cheaply and efficiently. they rlly cld make this spaceship, itd just cost a shitload to launch
@MrLivePositive8 This thing of them always saying we dont have the funds dosent really have much to back it. Maybe if our planet's superpowers "one in particular" didnt spend 10s of BILLIONS every year on wars we might of colonised the moon to a certain degree and have been to mars. Correct me if im Crazy but this is what we need to do instead of destroying our planet and leting People starve to death while others have the means to feed an entire counry but just turn their backs
@borntolose1970 it takes resources and money to which the whole planet is fighting over at the moment and someday these things will be built, but not until we learn to share with everyone- which might never happen. Search the Venus Project to understand how this is possible.
Paron fuion but we all need it to live and is made only by supper volcanos. Othere (Jenner Pomo Research Earth Space) is looking at high voltage lazers in to a marcury ball and draw off the magnetic feild power core and permanet longragang drive systeam of the 4 elaments. And to use Hygergen for deffence of wepons for getting read of rock that are in the way of travle. My plan is to build a space city of 8 of Oasis of the Sea crews ships rebuilt for space flght hooked to a center hub of gardens
@tenrazo215 Lol, imagine there's an alien flying through space when they see that ship with an asteroid stuck on the front. They'd be like "wtf is wrong with those people."
Magnetic levitation launcher is the key, and velocity funnels on the engines once out of the atmosphere. The engines have a wide burn patern that seems to loose thrust. Like vater hose if you put your finger in it it creates pressure.
THIS IS NONSENSE WE ALREADY SEE SKYLON AS YOU CALL IT FLYING OVER NEWCASTLE IT IS KNOWN AS THE PLANE WITHOUT WINGS TO PEOPLE WHO FILM CHEMTRAIL SPRAYERS WE SEE SOME PLANES WITH HOLOGRAMS AROUND THEM DO YOU THINK THE PEOLPE ARE STUPID, AND AS FAR AS WAITING FOR 2030 TO COME BEFORE WE SEE ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT THAT IS EVEN MORE RIDICULOUS TESLAR INVENTED ANTI GRAVITY AND ELECTRIC SPACE CRAFT 100 YEARS AGO AND WHO KNOWS HOW LONG SO CALLED ALIEN CRAFT HAVE BEEN COMING HEAR , WITH MORE ADVANCED TECH
@TheEagleCondor ALIEN CRAFT but they not telling are they most scientists that are real grate lost their way . take my word on this water is one hell of rocket fuel it is the best they can rip off the public for billions. mars 3 to 8 weeks .
but you dont age like you do on earth time will slow down as you travel fast to other stars if you go at almost the speed of light time would almost stand still and you would age very slowly till you got to your destination so the stars are not so far away after all remember man put clocks on the wall i know this stuff cause im an alien
The problem with long space travel is gravity! Without it our bones decrease in calcium and muscels turn to jelly and our vision is effected, life expectancy is short and we need it to be longer! Re populating is another answer but again without gravity even sex would be impossible no traction no friction and who knows what weightlessness does to an embryo!! We need gravity!!!!
@narnyslip Explain how sex would be impossible? Even when I read it on the site that you probably read it on too, everything that was said made sense, until that wording. Unless gravity affects the Mans ability to get it up. A Man and a Woman would still be able to have sex. How the rest would work I don't know. But if the Man and Woman are excited. They can still do it. I'd go into more detail, but I'm sure if it was given a little more thought, the logic would easily be seen anyway.
if it was possible to travel at the speed of light it would be impossible as when you go at high speeds the objects mass increases and when going at the speed of light your mass would be infinte meaning your basicly dead and also what about the g-force of the pull?
Britain is now a crappy little country that has shat away most of its industries.
FACT: Britain is the ONLY nation after having developed its OWN launch system & put its OWN satellites into orbit, to then STOP & End it's Space program!
Even India is putting its own spacecraft into orbit..
That's your mistake!!!! you think the problem is creating a spacecraft with the thrust and fuel to take us out of our atmosphere without spending billions of dollars on it. but watch you should be thinking about is creating orbital stations designed to manufacture spacecrafts and shuttles, that way we won't have to spend billions of dollars on fuel and polluting our atmosphere. there should also be a space elevator to carry the astronauts to the space stations.
Getting around the solar system is a real business. Frankly, people who really get this are in the minority. The technical problems are diverse; but somebody on Earth is working on all these jobs.Everybody sees the crafts being built by the venture technology companies. Things like power plants that can fit in a oversized camper shell, or air tight fabrics that can cover a 10 story office building and weigh only as much as a phone book. The man of the year is going to be the one who does it all.
@bentotheclarke It will most likely be within 300-500 years. We will have massive colony ships designed to transport huge populations of settlers to other stellar systems. However unless we find a way to develop a drive system that uses dimensional warping technology, the journeys on these titanic vessels will be a one way trip. The vast distances between star systems makes maintaining any contact other than fleeting radio messages between colonies impractical.
@cloned2 farts arent free, you have to eat food, food that reguires money to grow and labor hours. farts in my opinion arent that good to use as fuel, however enough farts may work, it may....
As for travelling to gliese 581. It will take 21 years to get there if we had propulsion that accelerated to lightspeed. Meaning you would be 40 if you took a retour.
The most likely science that we will involve to support such long voyages would probably be artificial coma and cell and dna cloning to keep your body young in a 20your sleep. Were close to altering ourselves that way, give it a few more decades and such a design might be reality.
@Armigo91 If you were traveling at 99.999% light speed (as traveling at light speed would be impossible) then time would slow relative to your position, actually making the 20 year journey seem closer to 10 or so. The most effective method of interstellar travel would be to develop a warp system that moves space around the craft. Though in the short term (within a millennium) the method you suggest would indeed be the most practical.
@Armigo91 Time to invent a WARP DRIVE eh my freind because traveling through"normal" space a warp drive would allow very short trips to place s o far away the technology my freind is 2 centuries away but our great great great grandchildren will see this coe true allowing Humanity to go far enough into space with a starship like this to make a First Contact if we go so far with a warp drive. It won't be like star trek where it takes minutes to go 20 lightyears how about just weeks or months eh?
@Armigo91 But we have to reach light speed first, it deosn't matter if we can freeze ourselves for the long journey if we don't have a way to get there.
@Armigo91 If you're talking about relativistic speeds you have to take in to account time dilation. Those on the ship would experience less time than those left behind on earth.
@Armigo91 You're forgetting one thing. For someone travelling at or near C, time itself slows down, the amount of time required to reach the destination for that person would be only a few weeks.
@Armigo91 Actually, since time slows considerably at the speed of light then the trip would only take approximately 10 years for the traveler (20 yrs round trip). As for the mission controllers here on Earth, yes it would be a 21 mission (40 round trip).
Einstein's twin paradox leads into this time dilation.
@Armigo91 Traveling at light speed is not fast enough for interspace manned travel. The only way we are going to be able to travel the stars within a human lifetime will be by warping space time with the use of negitive energy.
@Armigo91 Yes true, but if you would travel with lightspeed then the time would stop or either pass really slow for the crew and it can be few days but on earth it will be 21 yrs !
@Armigo91 With technology like that ill just either freeze my self or live for 40 extra years. Heck I can put my brain inside a humanoid robot, then I can live for 500 years.
@Armigo91 come back to earth and everything thing and person has aged,some of your friends and family are dead,it would be better to travel to the stars with your family on huge mile long ships.As you approach the speed of light,things slow down for you,while your family ages,its called time travel,it exist's at least into the future,that we know.
@inagod Actually now its probable for regression as well. Given that we develop a fuelsource which can propel us faster than OUR inherant speed of light. Right now we are moving about 2-3 times faster than SOL in space as a galaxy, so if we can go faster than light we would be able to not only freeze the clock as happens at the pinnacle, but moving beyond that would sufficiently turn the "hands" back like what you see as an optical illusion with rotation. Cool huh?
@inagod We would need a seriously amazing type of technology to withstand such a stressful defiance of physics on our molecular level, though. seriously amazing.... Were talking about creating a vortex with some form of engine, which would warp spacetime drastically much like a SMBH does. Dangerous shit. But the theory is sound given an energy tech, like some kind of ion field...
@Armigo91 Actually, the closer towards the speed of light you travel, the slower your stablized (if not youd die.. lol) molecular structure moves through time. This is proposed by the timeclock experiment, in which two clocks are synched, then one loaded into a fast moving transport. Upon return the moving clock is farther behind the grounded. Interesting to me mainly because this means if you could move FASTER than your inherant habitats speed of light, you would literally regress in time.
@Armigo91 The really awesome part is thats an experiment that has been tested and confirmed. Meaning there is ample evidence to argue that the theory is sound and realistic. How awesome is that? Its also pretty awesome the advancements in biochemistry they've made as well. The ones you mentioned. Theyre expecting cellular regeneration to become the norm in society within the next decade or two... meaning Ill still most likely be alive to xperience it. how cool. =D
that way you basically use the mass (or gravity) of the spacecraft itself to slightly alter its course over 2 years which will be enough to change it directory enough to miss the earth.
very primitive, but it guarantees succesfullness, lasers are still to weak and require to much power to be functional, as for nuclear rockets, you create 2 asteroid halfs and if you use thousands of precised aimed warheads you might create a asteroid rain curtain the day it impacts.
I wonder when they will build a spaceship to travel to gliese 581, there are rumors that the dwarf star has an earth like planet next to it, its a star that will live way longer than our sun, so maybe one day humans will go and colonize gliese before our star dies, we could always become extinct because of a big asteroid impact, like what killed the dinosaurs, but hopefully by then our technology will be advanced enough to destroy it or alter its trajectory
if we find a asteroid within 2 years of impact we already can change its trajectory. So we have about 2+ months to find the doomsday asteroid to avoid it hitting on 2012.
"sarcasm"!!!!"
Basically they do it very primitively. The send a probe to the asteroid with a giant tank supporting translation thrusters that keeps the probe stationary at one side of the asteroid preventing it from orbiting and the gian tank that supports the thrusters can support thrust for over2 years.
@melis256 B finally done) At that point, you're making a field which has the same effect as diamagnetism, but without the negative effects of magnetism itself, such as lifting your body by the soft tissues which end up support your bones, but gets yanked back down by your fillings, pins in your limbs, et c. Without Higgs boson based technology, we still have no means of producing this effect.
akashashen 5 days ago
@akashashen
May I then ask, have you seen that interview with Dr. Podkletnov from 2004?
Well if you haven't I can provide a link, but anyway I went and watched it through and he explains quite a bit about how his gravity modification should work and somewhere around the middle of the vid he comes out with something about that the sup-cons and the BEC are not the important part but the fact that it polarizes space and that can be done with conventional materials.
melis256 5 days ago
@melis256 Regarding A) show me where you think there's any claim in wikipedia or other resource where superconductors are BECs. Electrons would not flow over their surface if they were BECs; that's acting as two separate particles, not one.
Polarizes space: Explain what you intend to mean, because that has no physics concept; you can't polarize the surface of the Universe. If you could, you'd risk creating a lower-energy vacuum, which would alter the whole Universe once nucleated.
akashashen 5 days ago
@akashashen -[bck from sleep]
On A) Well they are definitely tying it very closely together in the Fermionic condensate article, and the same with superfluid Helium 4.
On B) Got it from here: AgyAFElQZcU
don't ask me why he explain it as he does but his experiments seem to go further than what we have talked about. As he states that the superconductors are only good since it is easier to model on and experiment with.
melis256 5 days ago
@melis256 B still cont) The effective measurements were only sustained within the field, which is why he initially claimed it had gravity shield effects, something theoretically present in some quantum field theories, but the realistic means of doing this sits far outside of the structure of his experiments, as the energy needs to be at a value equivalent of that of the combined masses total effect (e.g. weight of the lightest object).
akashashen 5 days ago
@melis256 B cont) The materials shown to be effectively repelled consisted of diamagnetic components, which is why the early 90's research sparked little controversy.
akashashen 5 days ago
@melis256 B) There have been no successful small scale attempts at reproducing Dr. Podkletnov's research, despite insistence otherwise. If the effect existed, you wouldn't need a larger system to show the effect (just objects small enough for the effective field). I mention this at it's his preferred claim that others failed in producing a large enough system.
akashashen 5 days ago
It needs some minor alterations for Y3K: light tealish colour with the red stripe made along the horizon, the lift fins moved to the back and expanded (along with the tail fin, which needs to be much larger), move the turbines to the back with the intake being two portholes on the bottom of ither side, an anti-debris gun with 360x180 observation port on the top, the payload deployment bay should be at the bottom, a series of windows, and it should be renamed The USS Planet Express Ship.
akashashen 1 week ago
Stupid, the future of space travel is indeed electrical but not this idiotically inefficient way of propulsion. There have now in over a decade existed an inertia-less (non Newtonian) gravity wave drive. Using the frequency and amplitude of the alternating current feed into it, it accelerates the craft to near the speed of light while the wave passes by. Using the effect discovered by Dr. Podkletnov to modify gravity this can be achieved, search "pulsed warpdrive" on google. 1hour trip to Mars.
melis256 1 week ago
ROFLMAO @melis256
akashashen 1 week ago
@akashashen
huh? are you trying to say something there?
melis256 1 week ago
@melis256 I just thought your joke was funny. If it wasn't a joke, you might want to notice that despite many attempts, Dr. Podkletnov's spinning good fun is not gravito-electric, as it wouldn't have the problems it has with a variety of materials, and 2% is statistically insignificant if it was usuable -- put it another way, the energy equivalence after one day would be less than an ion drive.
A gravity wave drive would involve non-accelerator Higgs production capability.
akashashen 6 days ago
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If you are referring to the "experiment" where NASA tried testing out what Dr. Podkletnov had found for then afterwards stating it was to "insignificant" is beacuse they didn't use a superconductor but just silver...
See, everything with mass which spins generates a gravito-magnetic field and what has been theorized is that like iron amplifies a magnetic field the materials used by Podkletnov does the same trick for gravito-magnetism.
melis256 6 days ago
@akashashen Cont.
Indeed if it should be used for propulsion it would need to be a superconducting superfluid in a donut ring spinning around near the speed of light until it can not be spun around any faster and start emitting gravity waves proportional to the amplitude and frequency of the acceleration coils.
Furthermore they need to be 2 or more in kinda the same positions as the engines of the V-22 Osprey, of course reversed quadro-polarized...
melis256 6 days ago
@melis256 The amount of energy to accelerate something still able to act as a superfluid to even a quarter the speed of light would be the same level of power used by the eastern half of the United States. This wouldn't "emit gravity waves." Energy-mass equivalency does not work in this manner. Energy can be transformed into a state with mass, but to produce mass-like waves would involve a lot more than proving the existence of the Higgs boson.
akashashen 6 days ago
@akashashen
Well actually it is not a wave moving matter as much as it is actually a space-time wave moving the space which then happen to be inhabited by some matter.
This guarantees that whatever is within this part of space-time, no matter its mass, gets moved a certain distance proportional with the amplitude of the space-time wave (when single wave is fired).
The wave travels with the speed of light but the objects caught in it still undergo the standard relativistic effects.
melis256 6 days ago
@melis256 Cont. 2
This automatically ensures that the wave will always overtake the objects, since the objects will never reach the speed of the wave.
melis256 6 days ago
@melis256 Cont. 2
This also means there is no need to always use high energy levels.. it just depends on how far you want to go in one go.
And no deceleration is required either since there never occurred any normal form of acceleration.
melis256 6 days ago
@melis256 Yes, I see your theory, but the only way to warp space time involves mass, which means energy. If you take the Alcubierre drive, unless we have moved beyond minimum energy input to Higgs production, it currently requires negative energy equivalency particles which would still be expressed in their absolute value in mass (or balancing a number of neutron stars and accelerating some of them faster than light). For your ideas to be functional, you need new physics.
akashashen 6 days ago
@melis256 Space time is the literal surface of the Universe. To warp it requires being capable of manipulating the densities of energy within it. Unless you've been holding onto a Nobel Prize winning paper regarding the vacuum, the effects attributed to the Higgs mechanism or new field theory that allows for hyper-dimensional tensor folds out of acquirable forms of energy we can manipulate now, I cannot currently foresee a means of creating the method you have described.
akashashen 6 days ago
@melis256 I would also like to apologise if that sounded harsh. It is theories like this that got me into theoretical physics in the first place. I've been a fan of 'Star Trek' since there was only the one. I've spent a lot of time working to find the requirements of fictional and conspiracy based drives, both supra- and superluminal, in space and on Earth. I love it; it's like crack for me, but when gravity/space-time gets involved, it involves a lot more energy than I'd like.
akashashen 6 days ago
@akashashen
Well depending on how much energy you put into the system you will get different amplitudes of wave. The greater the amplitude the closer to the speed of light the objects get pushed and the longer the objects will be caught in the wave the longer the objects will "travel"/be moved.
The whole point is that it is very flexible but it will never go beyond the speed of the wave e.i. the speed of light.
melis256 6 days ago
@akashashen
You only need negative energy if you want to go past the speed of light.
With this you can set any arbitrary speed below the speed of light as a function of amplitude and frequency and there are never performed any ac/-deceleration.
I don't think it would be very different from the nuclear submarines we have today.
With some nice capacitors the required bursts of energy could most likely be met.
melis256 6 days ago
@melis256 I can understand how you're looking at it, but you want to produce some class of transverse wave that can move through the vacuum, which means both compression and decompressive forces, a peak and a trough. Even if you didn't need the trough, you would need to effectively put a lot of mass in one place for an instant that would then quickly disappear without reacting to anything else.
My suspicion is a misunderstanding of how space-time transforms around the energy present.
akashashen 6 days ago
@melis256 Allow me to put it like this:
Space time doesn't "stretch" or form and deform like many simplified analogies suggest, e.g. the rubber sheath analogy of the space-time topology. It's more along the lines of extra space forming around mass bearing energy. There are calculations which cover this effect, including ghost particles that NEARLY balance out the cosmological constant, producing the effective space.
akashashen 6 days ago
@melis256 Or, looking at the experiment which gave rise to faith in ether-free relativity, light didn't roll along the outer edge of a bowl created by the Sun, it, more to the effect, saw more dense space the closer it got to the center of the mass. A photon can pass around a gravitational body if, after adjusting for this space, it is not aimed at, nor loses one whole number value of its spin. When a photon loses its spin, it decays and falls to the mass, hence, a black hole.
akashashen 6 days ago
@melis256 Here's some YouTube codes for an explanation that partly covers these ideas: GOgsn5NECWw and fg1B4ZLTzPo
Nottingham's multiple channels have become a favourite form of entertainment for me. This is called Sixty Symbols, but there are a few others (plus a site for each). It neither presumes technical knowledge or speaks down to the viewer; so, I feel comfortable recommending them to almost anyone capable of using a computer.
akashashen 6 days ago
@akashashen
I have a paper where it is explained how you would be able to generate a forward moving wave which is created behind and annihilated in front from 2 gravitational quadrupoles (mounted on the midpoint of the craft at a distance of the radius of the craft) which receives their energy for emission when their respective angles in rotation are correct.
It is the waves interference that makes this possible.
melis256 6 days ago
@akashashen
It is these emitters we use the spinning superconductors for, to amplify the gravito-magnetic forces and emit the gravity waves in the correct directions to interfere in the back and the front.
melis256 6 days ago
@melis256 Here's the problem in physics you're not appreciating, the gravitomagnetic effect only remains valid with very small particles that allow for the usability of Maxwell's equations. What you want it to mean, it doesn't. I understand that Maxwell's equations and Lorentz superficially appear to suggest some fundamental quantum-field-like effect, but it doesn't. To apply a quote of 'Princess Bride, "You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means."
akashashen 5 days ago
@akashashen !
Yes, I know it only works when you apply it to single particles or the like...
But here I thought you knew that when a superconductor is in its superconducting state it is essentially a conducting Bose-Einstein condensate.
This makes it act like a single particle and thus the gravito-magnetic effect remains usable.
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Also, let me hear since you know quite a bit, if these hypotheses are wrong then what do you think dear Dr. Podkletnov experienced in his lab?
melis256 5 days ago
@melis256 A) No, superconductors, by the very function of superconductivity, do not behave as a single particle. A superconductor must posses multiple states simultaneously to transmit electrons as cooper pairs without resistance. Multiple states means it is not acting as a single particle. Neither does a superfluid act as a BEC, despite popular explanations that may cause the two to sound alike. To be a superfluid involves the atoms' ability to function distinct from one another.
akashashen 5 days ago
@akashashen to A)
uuuuuummm....' Ya.. I have absolutely no comment on that.
You should talk to your professor about rewriting/adding to sources of knowledge about the subject on the Internet if you feel something needs to be changed/clarified. Wikipedia would be a good place to start a little crusade.
melis256 5 days ago
@melis256 Sorry if that seemed weirdly broken up, but YT's been doing some weird math with character counts. If I hit reply, I got 190 characters, and three letters later, I'd have 176 characters. I don't know why they're putting me on Beta or if there's a system wide BS glitch, but I hope it wasn't too hard to follow.
akashashen 5 days ago
@akashashen Cont.
..to generate a wave traveling along the length of the ship in the direction you are going.
Simply, as with all the forces magnetic components, the field is not conserved.
melis256 6 days ago
I Really Like The Video From Your The Spaceship of the future is here
lupabuatchannel 2 weeks ago
Your Video Is Very Useful Sharing All rights reserved to DW TV. The space ship of the future is here
cenedywong 2 weeks ago
compress the ions, now why didn't I think of that?
3alarmbeer 2 weeks ago
the problem with electrical drives is that the output thrust they create is spread out over a large area. they are effient with fuel but not when transfering there power into thrust. i would compress the ions so we can harness the true power of these engines rather then wasteing. also the gas would be heat as it squeezes and pushed faster out the exhaust wich would shorten trips to mars for example.
frogfan101 3 weeks ago
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Its been said that don't bother leaving on an really long space journey. Because the rate of tech evelovtion has reached a point where there will aways be a faster ship. If you start you will be soon be passed by a ship that left later but is going faster. Since this is always true then there is no point in leaving. I see a string of ships like beads. This wave would eventually collapse. But, on arrival all but the last to leave would be as anchronistic as Jules Vern. FILO system.
thepollywog1 3 weeks ago
Until the principle of strapping a chair onto a controlled explosion is totally abandoned we aint going anywhere. As for nuclear drives OMG! We freak out about safety on Earth & put nuclear generators inside thick reinforced concrete bunkers but it's OK to put them in a relatively flimsy rocket ship and go visit the neighbours. Flying about in a potential dirty bomb. Yeh how to win friends and influence the universe, brilliant! Now Electric sounds hot or cool, tap into all them charged particles
bobcairns 3 weeks ago
Technology is for killing our own species (Global Genocide) not for spreading our seeds to the Galaxy! We will be all dead in the next 50-100 years! Shit I cant even get along with my neighbor let alone the whole world.. we are a lost cause!
igig1970666 1 month ago
@igig1970666 Quitter! First try to get along with yourself. Then move to your neighbour. :)
meomarte 1 month ago
@igig1970666 You suck.
bbmetal16 1 month ago
Great ! +1
Search : OMG UFO
SKYSURVEYOR 1 month ago
1:52 SPACE IPOD
BeakyRed 1 month ago
Good lord! This is astonishing changes in spaceflight I had no idea about!
TheJediCharles 1 month ago
if the world could unite in this stuff without money worries and abullshit and actually work for the future of out galactic adventure, and all the shit you know!? like star trek, i think they said somthing about that.
weedchuck420 1 month ago
i want that guys black glasses
catklyst 1 month ago
Is humanity making a mission like Earth to Neopia?
gdm413229 1 month ago
We look so advanced with our electronics, but we still rely on 1920s technology for our terrestrial and space propulsion engines.
clintatk 1 month ago
I am pleased to see a spaceship/spaceplane that has a style like right out of science fiction, leaving the earth like that one naboo royal cruiser, this one looks a lot like it. This is so cool:)
nacoes4progresso 1 month ago
Will a spaceship with a fusion thruster go to Neopia just in time?
gdm413229 1 month ago
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only american JPL / NASA can do that spaceship going to outer space,,,
ussr russia cannot allowed to copy steal from this spaceship
bestamerica 2 months ago
So, what the travelers can eat??? Shit???
antifrituras 2 months ago
@antifrituras Well if they have their on board gardens and recycle.....yes. What do you think some of us farmers use to enrich our fields if the store bought stuff is to expensive LOL. They have been recycleing urineas part of the water supply on the ISS since 2009.
candr 1 month ago
@candr But you know - agriculture is not easy.... And if in space have a phenomena with plants??? And if they cannot produce their veggies or fruits - whatever..... ???? Yes... I know... Compost it's that they uses for make plants minor veggies produce...
antifrituras 1 month ago
@antifrituras Of course it wouldn't be easy, but you got totake a little Earth with you. Consider a submarine with a crew of over 130 can stay down with stored food for 3 or 4 months. Now consider the samesized ship with only a dozen crew. Of course the greater the trip the more likely you have to grow your own stuff, one of the reasoms the ISS is experimenting with plants, and in a small way animals. Actually the biggest problem in not food, but bone loss.
candr 1 month ago
Talk, talk, talk, that's all that these scientists do, how about BUILDING the fucking thing! All we hear is the great and glorious future of space travel, if it can be done, DO IT ALREADY!!!!!
borntolose1970 2 months ago 19
@borntolose1970 Patience young one, it shall be done!
smokesceen124 2 months ago
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@borntolose1970 "Talk, talk, talk, that's all that these scientists do, how about BUILDING the fucking thing! "
Sure, let's cripple the entire earth's economy and reduce living standards for 100 years so we can travel to the nearest sun, and find a bunch of death lifeless rocks.
fuzzywzhe 2 months ago
@borntolose1970 Dude, we didnt even launch the ISC completely, and didnt even begin researching the various capabilities and effects of space exc. and you want to explore our solar system. Even then, the propulsion system is just laughable for deep space exploration. We should research on how to efficiently gather anti-matter in large amounts and safely store it. Anti-matter engines is what will ultimately launch us to the nearest stars.
SilentShotV 1 month ago
@borntolose1970 are you naive? it takes research and study just to be able to conceive of building the mechanisms able to do this cheaply and efficiently. they rlly cld make this spaceship, itd just cost a shitload to launch
NathanAmbrose42 1 month ago
@borntolose1970 They most likely do not have enough funds.
MrLivePositive8 1 month ago
@MrLivePositive8 This thing of them always saying we dont have the funds dosent really have much to back it. Maybe if our planet's superpowers "one in particular" didnt spend 10s of BILLIONS every year on wars we might of colonised the moon to a certain degree and have been to mars. Correct me if im Crazy but this is what we need to do instead of destroying our planet and leting People starve to death while others have the means to feed an entire counry but just turn their backs
BongBoyJay 1 month ago
@BongBoyJay Actually you are right. I think I was tired when I wrote that, I actually do not even remember it.
MrLivePositive8 1 month ago
@borntolose1970 no money moron..are fucking govswould rather spend it on military tech
andrewfink1 1 month ago 22
@borntolose1970 well they need funding from the frucking government, dont they? BUT NO! let us give money to the idiots at wall street!
pureawesomeness2012 1 month ago
@borntolose1970 it takes resources and money to which the whole planet is fighting over at the moment and someday these things will be built, but not until we learn to share with everyone- which might never happen. Search the Venus Project to understand how this is possible.
ColeFried81 1 month ago
@borntolose1970 I agree with yu but andrewfink1 does have a point about there being no money for this project
Joe35983 3 weeks ago
@borntolose1970 we need money
Nazim1495 2 weeks ago
@borntolose1970
Yes that's rigfht. Fucking build the damn thing already! Don't talk, build assholes. I agree with you 100%.
pluto4847 1 week ago
Another thing not mentioned is this is through constant acceleration artificial gravity is created.
EpicDoucher 2 months ago 2
i like farts!
credman83 2 months ago
Paron fuion but we all need it to live and is made only by supper volcanos. Othere (Jenner Pomo Research Earth Space) is looking at high voltage lazers in to a marcury ball and draw off the magnetic feild power core and permanet longragang drive systeam of the 4 elaments. And to use Hygergen for deffence of wepons for getting read of rock that are in the way of travle. My plan is to build a space city of 8 of Oasis of the Sea crews ships rebuilt for space flght hooked to a center hub of gardens
JennerPomo 2 months ago
@tenrazo215 Lol, imagine there's an alien flying through space when they see that ship with an asteroid stuck on the front. They'd be like "wtf is wrong with those people."
CylusFox04 2 months ago
@tenrazo215 Interesting idea.
hardstyle905 2 months ago
is it just me or does anyone else notice how much this thing look's like the SR71?
joshanator1 2 months ago
Dear santa....
C0reInside 2 months ago
Magnetic levitation launcher is the key, and velocity funnels on the engines once out of the atmosphere. The engines have a wide burn patern that seems to loose thrust. Like vater hose if you put your finger in it it creates pressure.
61miroman 2 months ago
i jus wana go into space before i die...
tonyg445 2 months ago
thanks for the video :)
ebach1 2 months ago
Reminds me of USA plane called black something ?
chrisblaster18 3 months ago
powered by what ? UnUnPentium discovered in 1988....errr...I mean 2003
MrSYSTEM20 3 months ago
i vote hydrogen power ram jet
noone15000 3 months ago
This is the kind of thing I want to get into.
vidgami46 3 months ago
theres a way to freeze your body for 300-400 years in deep sleep with out again
iShank2Win 3 months ago
KEEP ON DOING YALL THING NASA
jwhite50421 3 months ago
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KEEP ON DOING YALL THING NASA
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yes that is only american JPL / NASA can do that spaceship going to outer space,,,
no no ussr russia do that,,,
ussr russia cannot allowed to copy steal from this spaceship
bestamerica 2 months ago
skylon would make a great bat plane.
matthewakian2 3 months ago
If germans scientists are involved then it'll happen.
matttttar 3 months ago
THIS IS NONSENSE WE ALREADY SEE SKYLON AS YOU CALL IT FLYING OVER NEWCASTLE IT IS KNOWN AS THE PLANE WITHOUT WINGS TO PEOPLE WHO FILM CHEMTRAIL SPRAYERS WE SEE SOME PLANES WITH HOLOGRAMS AROUND THEM DO YOU THINK THE PEOLPE ARE STUPID, AND AS FAR AS WAITING FOR 2030 TO COME BEFORE WE SEE ELECTRIC SPACECRAFT THAT IS EVEN MORE RIDICULOUS TESLAR INVENTED ANTI GRAVITY AND ELECTRIC SPACE CRAFT 100 YEARS AGO AND WHO KNOWS HOW LONG SO CALLED ALIEN CRAFT HAVE BEEN COMING HEAR , WITH MORE ADVANCED TECH
TheEagleCondor 4 months ago
@TheEagleCondor ALIEN CRAFT but they not telling are they most scientists that are real grate lost their way . take my word on this water is one hell of rocket fuel it is the best they can rip off the public for billions. mars 3 to 8 weeks .
greenearthnazi20204u 4 months ago
but you dont age like you do on earth time will slow down as you travel fast to other stars if you go at almost the speed of light time would almost stand still and you would age very slowly till you got to your destination so the stars are not so far away after all remember man put clocks on the wall i know this stuff cause im an alien
MsTurbotim 4 months ago
i Fucking hate it when they dub European languages LET EM LERN DAMIT
MrTimothytim 4 months ago
@MrTimothytim
Just shut up idiot.
Scionwoods 4 months ago
@Scionwoods ohh im the idiots for wanting to learn right........
MrTimothytim 4 months ago
@MrTimothytim
No, your an idiot for wanting them not to dub it.
Scionwoods 4 months ago
@MrTimothytim thats the same ting least they could have done were subs so every 1 could understand it
MrTimothytim 4 months ago
The problem with long space travel is gravity! Without it our bones decrease in calcium and muscels turn to jelly and our vision is effected, life expectancy is short and we need it to be longer! Re populating is another answer but again without gravity even sex would be impossible no traction no friction and who knows what weightlessness does to an embryo!! We need gravity!!!!
narnyslip 4 months ago
@narnyslip Explain how sex would be impossible? Even when I read it on the site that you probably read it on too, everything that was said made sense, until that wording. Unless gravity affects the Mans ability to get it up. A Man and a Woman would still be able to have sex. How the rest would work I don't know. But if the Man and Woman are excited. They can still do it. I'd go into more detail, but I'm sure if it was given a little more thought, the logic would easily be seen anyway.
McSpider1066 4 months ago
So... if this is all still theoretical, "The Spaceship of the future" isn't really "here" is it?
cbale2000 4 months ago
is that a blackbird from blackops?
draneskates 5 months ago
Old George there has the coolest mad scientist dark glasses
peejay1954 5 months ago
we'd better make many space ships and get the f*** out from eartth or we will die !
Chimpa110 5 months ago
viagra propulsion gets me to where im going in a short amount of time.
lokey745 5 months ago
just don't use a hyperdrive that's always failing...
250bandos 6 months ago
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juki0h 6 months ago
just attach a mercedes to that space ship and push the gas pedal. it's built for heavy duty!
rx7here 6 months ago
The guy at 2:50 sounds like Brains from Thudnerbirds
ThatAdelaideGuy 6 months ago
People are saying 'We will one day' All the technology we use for space relies on natural resources, those are running out fast so.... Sure we will?
Not saying we will not but we need a new set-up all together.
gf12gf 7 months ago
if it was possible to travel at the speed of light it would be impossible as when you go at high speeds the objects mass increases and when going at the speed of light your mass would be infinte meaning your basicly dead and also what about the g-force of the pull?
jimmyjameselvin 7 months ago
if humans think "long distance" is the planet mars lol. try again.
fergo123 8 months ago
Skylon is a crock
Britain is now a crappy little country that has shat away most of its industries.
FACT: Britain is the ONLY nation after having developed its OWN launch system & put its OWN satellites into orbit, to then STOP & End it's Space program!
Even India is putting its own spacecraft into orbit..
xoio 8 months ago
cool hope to see wahts it like to see the first human to go mars
ManRupununi 9 months ago
I thought some physicists proved that the Bussard Ramjet would not work because there is not enough hydrogen floating around in space.
TheWizardTrembyle 9 months ago
That's your mistake!!!! you think the problem is creating a spacecraft with the thrust and fuel to take us out of our atmosphere without spending billions of dollars on it. but watch you should be thinking about is creating orbital stations designed to manufacture spacecrafts and shuttles, that way we won't have to spend billions of dollars on fuel and polluting our atmosphere. there should also be a space elevator to carry the astronauts to the space stations.
samysasy419 9 months ago
COOL ! Clearly shows what humanking can do now !!
davisgreen2020 10 months ago
Getting around the solar system is a real business. Frankly, people who really get this are in the minority. The technical problems are diverse; but somebody on Earth is working on all these jobs.Everybody sees the crafts being built by the venture technology companies. Things like power plants that can fit in a oversized camper shell, or air tight fabrics that can cover a 10 story office building and weigh only as much as a phone book. The man of the year is going to be the one who does it all.
granddad2002 10 months ago
Lol the British could never build this! Keep dreaming!
nycrackhead 11 months ago
Whooooo British. Sorry, had to!
cameronm96 1 year ago
looks like a heavily modified sr 71. Interesting at least.
ThePixelChaos 1 year ago
unmanned praobe
ImCool771 1 year ago
how long will it be before we can have giant spaceships that are totaly self reliant?
bentotheclarke 1 year ago
@bentotheclarke It will most likely be within 300-500 years. We will have massive colony ships designed to transport huge populations of settlers to other stellar systems. However unless we find a way to develop a drive system that uses dimensional warping technology, the journeys on these titanic vessels will be a one way trip. The vast distances between star systems makes maintaining any contact other than fleeting radio messages between colonies impractical.
CaptainBeerman1098 11 months ago
farting propulsion is the way to go..and its free
cloned2 1 year ago 21
@cloned2 seriously? are you 10
fucktardickis 6 months ago
@cloned2 farts arent free, you have to eat food, food that reguires money to grow and labor hours. farts in my opinion arent that good to use as fuel, however enough farts may work, it may....
juki0h 5 months ago 8
@cloned2 still needs fuel ... beans should do the trick
pele220 5 months ago
@cloned2 BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN BURITO
100prototype 4 months ago
@cloned2, Maybe for you, but the person next to you has to pay big time, maybe even with their life!
1BustedMyth 4 months ago
@cloned2 Your ass is free? :)
Fly2Azeroth 3 months ago
@cloned2 ...but where does one get so much gas? 0.o
GrindThatTable 3 months ago
@cloned2 but people who think about fart jokes all the time,don't have enough brain power to build a spacecraft,relax,just kidding,not.
inagod 2 months ago
As for travelling to gliese 581. It will take 21 years to get there if we had propulsion that accelerated to lightspeed. Meaning you would be 40 if you took a retour.
The most likely science that we will involve to support such long voyages would probably be artificial coma and cell and dna cloning to keep your body young in a 20your sleep. Were close to altering ourselves that way, give it a few more decades and such a design might be reality.
Armigo91 1 year ago 28
@Armigo91 If you were traveling at 99.999% light speed (as traveling at light speed would be impossible) then time would slow relative to your position, actually making the 20 year journey seem closer to 10 or so. The most effective method of interstellar travel would be to develop a warp system that moves space around the craft. Though in the short term (within a millennium) the method you suggest would indeed be the most practical.
CaptainBeerman1098 11 months ago
@Armigo91 you are not taking into account time dilation
DVAFP 8 months ago
@Armigo91 Well.. thats wrong.. time is slower when you travel with the speed of light ;)
Swatty1337 8 months ago
@Armigo91 Time to invent a WARP DRIVE eh my freind because traveling through"normal" space a warp drive would allow very short trips to place s o far away the technology my freind is 2 centuries away but our great great great grandchildren will see this coe true allowing Humanity to go far enough into space with a starship like this to make a First Contact if we go so far with a warp drive. It won't be like star trek where it takes minutes to go 20 lightyears how about just weeks or months eh?
SuperColonel77 7 months ago
@Armigo91 But we have to reach light speed first, it deosn't matter if we can freeze ourselves for the long journey if we don't have a way to get there.
samysasy419 7 months ago
@Armigo91 If you're talking about relativistic speeds you have to take in to account time dilation. Those on the ship would experience less time than those left behind on earth.
zediir 6 months ago
@Armigo91 You're forgetting one thing. For someone travelling at or near C, time itself slows down, the amount of time required to reach the destination for that person would be only a few weeks.
Baronstone 5 months ago
@Armigo91 Actually, since time slows considerably at the speed of light then the trip would only take approximately 10 years for the traveler (20 yrs round trip). As for the mission controllers here on Earth, yes it would be a 21 mission (40 round trip).
Einstein's twin paradox leads into this time dilation.
anaik1 4 months ago
@Armigo91 Traveling at light speed is not fast enough for interspace manned travel. The only way we are going to be able to travel the stars within a human lifetime will be by warping space time with the use of negitive energy.
exotic444 4 months ago
@Armigo91 Heck 40 years is small If I could live for 500+ years.
MultiIPwnage 3 months ago
@Armigo91 Yes true, but if you would travel with lightspeed then the time would stop or either pass really slow for the crew and it can be few days but on earth it will be 21 yrs !
VoodooMadMike41 3 months ago
@Armigo91 With technology like that ill just either freeze my self or live for 40 extra years. Heck I can put my brain inside a humanoid robot, then I can live for 500 years.
MultiIPwnage 3 months ago
@Armigo91 come back to earth and everything thing and person has aged,some of your friends and family are dead,it would be better to travel to the stars with your family on huge mile long ships.As you approach the speed of light,things slow down for you,while your family ages,its called time travel,it exist's at least into the future,that we know.
inagod 2 months ago
@inagod Actually now its probable for regression as well. Given that we develop a fuelsource which can propel us faster than OUR inherant speed of light. Right now we are moving about 2-3 times faster than SOL in space as a galaxy, so if we can go faster than light we would be able to not only freeze the clock as happens at the pinnacle, but moving beyond that would sufficiently turn the "hands" back like what you see as an optical illusion with rotation. Cool huh?
ijociou 2 months ago
@inagod We would need a seriously amazing type of technology to withstand such a stressful defiance of physics on our molecular level, though. seriously amazing.... Were talking about creating a vortex with some form of engine, which would warp spacetime drastically much like a SMBH does. Dangerous shit. But the theory is sound given an energy tech, like some kind of ion field...
ijociou 2 months ago
@Armigo91 Actually, the closer towards the speed of light you travel, the slower your stablized (if not youd die.. lol) molecular structure moves through time. This is proposed by the timeclock experiment, in which two clocks are synched, then one loaded into a fast moving transport. Upon return the moving clock is farther behind the grounded. Interesting to me mainly because this means if you could move FASTER than your inherant habitats speed of light, you would literally regress in time.
ijociou 2 months ago
@Armigo91 The really awesome part is thats an experiment that has been tested and confirmed. Meaning there is ample evidence to argue that the theory is sound and realistic. How awesome is that? Its also pretty awesome the advancements in biochemistry they've made as well. The ones you mentioned. Theyre expecting cellular regeneration to become the norm in society within the next decade or two... meaning Ill still most likely be alive to xperience it. how cool. =D
ijociou 2 months ago
that way you basically use the mass (or gravity) of the spacecraft itself to slightly alter its course over 2 years which will be enough to change it directory enough to miss the earth.
very primitive, but it guarantees succesfullness, lasers are still to weak and require to much power to be functional, as for nuclear rockets, you create 2 asteroid halfs and if you use thousands of precised aimed warheads you might create a asteroid rain curtain the day it impacts.
waste of warheads imo.
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Trevor1182 1 year ago
Iceages will be pretty tough for our species too
Trevor1182 1 year ago
I wonder when they will build a spaceship to travel to gliese 581, there are rumors that the dwarf star has an earth like planet next to it, its a star that will live way longer than our sun, so maybe one day humans will go and colonize gliese before our star dies, we could always become extinct because of a big asteroid impact, like what killed the dinosaurs, but hopefully by then our technology will be advanced enough to destroy it or alter its trajectory
Trevor1182 1 year ago
@Trevor1182
if we find a asteroid within 2 years of impact we already can change its trajectory. So we have about 2+ months to find the doomsday asteroid to avoid it hitting on 2012.
"sarcasm"!!!!"
Basically they do it very primitively. The send a probe to the asteroid with a giant tank supporting translation thrusters that keeps the probe stationary at one side of the asteroid preventing it from orbiting and the gian tank that supports the thrusters can support thrust for over2 years.
Armigo91 1 year ago
@bulbulahamadnz srry about them comments just bored waiting for a download.
inr21sevier 1 year ago
hello @starwars that was an awsome movie luved it
inr21sevier 1 year ago
hello @asshole i just wondered randomly if this was an real an account so ya srry about this.
inr21sevier 1 year ago
2030 damn 20 more years but seriously why and so we wont actually make settlement tell probably 2075 or 2345 dang it.
inr21sevier 1 year ago
@inr21sevier dont worry, in a couple of decades we will find a way to stop aging, then it will be possible for us to explore space
juki0h 3 weeks ago