How DARE the mainstream media boogeymen not run a 10 second clip of two black guys doing NOTHING for what collectively, I'm sure, is hours and hours. It's bullshit. They didn't do anything. No one cares. Obama won the election. GET. THE. FUCK. OVER. IT. Everyone in October of 2008 knew who was winning, you fools. He won by 100 electoral votes. For Gods sake. Can you fucking lose just ONCE? What the hell is wrong with these fools? Pure delusion. Pure bullshit...
It can't be stopped if the Obama administration then takes action to censor itself as a response to these attacks. I don't know what I find more disgusting, the senseless attacks or the pussy reaction.
OK, I get it now. Everything posted by mediamatters4america is just slanted propaganda from the left. Thumbs down whenever I accidentally stumble upon them.
I think a legitimate case of voter intimidation is a pretty bad example if you're tying to make FOX news look bad. I think the title of this vid should read. "FOX NEWS ONLY SOURCE REPORTING VOTER INTIMIDATION." This is kinda like the left trying to label church going people as extreme, dangerous or radical. Their clever little plot would actually work if the other 80% of the country were as stupid as they present themselves to be.
As we can see from the comments here, progressives LIKE voter intimidation and fraud. I guess they figure that's the only way their candidates can win.
my favorite part is about how this clip is supposed to attack Fox, but instead it just shows Fox talking about important news that other stations won't even discuss. sooo... does Obama literally sit here and run this channel or does he just tell you guys what to do?
@Frettsy the point is that it's not important news... it's hyped up by fox as a big story until other news organizations pick up the story (because they are also stupid) and that's how this crap gets into the mainstream... they've done it over and over (van jones, shirley sherrod, black panthers, NYC mosque... want me to keep going?)
You guy's are right it all doesn't mater! Because Bush was evil. And its not a crime to intimidate voter at the poling place because their black and just ignore that Bartle Bull
@pepschmidt Ok, yeah, since no voter came forward to allege intimidation, it's pretty clear that there was no voter intimidation. A McCain poll watcher would hardly be credible, given his clear opposition to Obama. Man, you guys will believe ANYTHING! It'd be hilarious, if it weren't so damned sad.
@JohnnyBB82 yeah for some reason my comment got cut off but if you'd look up "Bartle Bull" He's one of the credible witnesses that testified in court He's a liberal civil rights attorney that called it "The worst case of voter intimidation I'v ever seen." I'f you'd do the minimum amount of research you'l find the whole video, video of the trial and the video of Malik shabazz saying that they did! and that the DOJ gave'm a joke of sentence!!!
@pepschmidt Ok, Bartle Bull is anything but "liberal." Did you know he was a McCain poll watcher? And, if this is such a big issue, and the voting booth is "sacrosanct," as Megyn Kelly puts it, then why aren't they up in arms about the dozens of cases thrown out by the Bush DOJ against white intimidators, like the one in AZ in '06 who harrassed Mexican-looking voters with a 9mm, asking them questions to make sure they spoke English, and taking photos to compare to pics of felons and illegals?
@pepschmidt I'm not trying to excuse Shabazz for acting like a jackass, because he clearly did, but that doesn't mean anyone was intimidated. If no voter comes forward to claim intimidation, then a case for voter intimidation is pretty much dead in the water, no?
@JohnnyBB82 Ok I looked at your profile and your a troll so i'm not going to try and convince you. Just because someone did something bad before doesn't make it ok to do it again and WHY does every lib troll think that conservatives like Bush we don't.
@pepschmidt I'm not a troll. If trolling is asking fair questions and pointing out fallacies, then I'm a troll. But, if you don't want to admit when you're wrong, and just want to attack me personally, then you, sir, ahve your own issues you need to work out. I'm not bringing up Bush because of you, but bringing that up to poin t out that fox News is being politically and racially biased. Tryin to help you out, partner.
@JohnnyBB82 I'll keep is short.... Stop listning to the "main stream media" including fox don't listen to sites with an agenda IE Media Maters take the subject and invest some time in SOURCE research. There you will find the truth....
@pepschmidt You're willing to fully invest in the Foc narrative- yet you're telling me not to buy into anyone's. I know what is fact vs. fiction. It's called backing up your stories with facts and research. It happens all the time on "mainstream" channels, as well as Media Matters. The only place research isn't used to back stories and articles up is- you guessed it, Fox News. This is why I have the bone to pick that I do about FNC in particular, and the conservative "movement" in general.
There has to be a christ for there to be an anti-christ. For there to be a christ there would have to be a god. Since there is no god, there is no anti-christ.
Preach to people who buy into fairy tales, aka not here.
Your collectivist desire too be slaves is puzzling. A hundred years of propaganda killed by the ability of the people too actually get the truth, for themselves. This is America, take your euro trash belief system and go there, its a win win.
Oddly enough, it was the BUSH Department of Justice that went for civil charges over criminal charges, and the Obama DOJ has obtained criminal judgement for one of the guys holding a nightstick. Fox News probably won't mention those facts. This is just the latest right wing shot at impeaching Obama after they win in November. They are relentless. I hear they're trying to get him for jaywalking too. Sadly, I am not joking.
Reagan had to rebuild the military because it was down to nothing when he took over as President. AND the Clinton Adminstration benefited from the tax cuts that Reagan put into place while President. Clinton really have to do a thing other than the Oklahoma City bombing
Fox News got burned by the ACORN hoax, but they're determined to keep white voters scared of blacks until election day. So they resurrect this NBPP "story" and milk it for all it's worth. After this story runs its course, what will be Fox News' NEXT target? Head Start?
This story is two years old! The last thing I remember hearing about this story was that they could not charge them with anything because one of the men lived in the building they were standing in front of. Another day another Fox news lie!
@ChaseRocker Ok, Media Matters ISN'T a news organization, but a left-wing media watchdog, trying to contain the bold-faced lies of the right. Fox News, on the other hand, injects race into every Obama piece they run, and they CLAIM to be "fair and balanced" AND "news." Neither of which are true, but at least Media Matters tells you what they are and their mission. Fox News carries on with their lie because of so many complicit tools out there willing to carry their water.
This video put out by Media Matters purposely misses the point to throw you off. (A.) Is the information true? DOJ won the case by default; the plaintiffs were so sure of their political ties that they didn't even bother to show up in court. (B) Why doesn't DOJ open a new case for the clear 'hate speech', "I hate crackers (whites); kill cracker babies!"? If they were Whites, DOJ would be on it like 'white on rice', excuse the pun, but you know it's true. Justice or revenge? I wonder...?
@1stPxeBoot There was no evidence, so even if they won, it would've been a hollow, baseless victory. Would you want our DOJ "winning" in this manner? And secondly, where did you hear they were saying that garbage? It's not on video! Remember, "hate speech," whether from the right or left, isn't prosecutable, unless there is evidence that it's incited violence.
The "truth"? Has FOX pointed out the truth that it was the Bush administration not the Obama administration that dropped the charges? Media Matters isn't the one afraid of the truth here.
@gracie97007 It really tickles my asshole when people say "huh duh Fox has high ratings so huh the numbers speak duh huh" Because they're saying that popularity is accuracy, it's ridiculous ! it is so fucking stupid. There's a number of reasons why Fox "news" has high ratings and most of them (all of them) have nothing to do with their "fair and balanced" journalism, people don't give a shit about what is true or not, they just like to hear their opinion aired on TV.
@gracie97007 Fox News are the bullies. I don't see any other channel rabidly trying their damndest to shape public policy or opinion. Media Matters can back up and cite EVERYTHING they say. There is heavy racial bias, and a clear bias toward one political party, even though the falsely claim they're "fair and balanced."
@gracie97007 Conservatives have been practicing this type of doublespeak since they claimed Reagan presided over the "longest expansion in peacetime," even though it was only for the top 1%, while the rest of the country went into debt and bankruptcy. Clinton actually presided over the longest ACTUAL peacetime expansion in our history.
@PolitikalJunkie Or more than likely we are being baited into TPMs capitalistic venture to drum up advertising revenue through increased site traffic. This medium should be sufficient for them to make their point but I guess it was more important for them to try to pad their pockets while pretending that they had some sort of legitimate gripe.
@eatmorenachos The case was not dropped by the Bush administration as proven by the Washington Post in todays paper(7-18). Of course it really doesn't matter because this is the kind of behavior Media Matters upholds as right and just even if it is a federal crime. Oh that's right federal crimes don't matter. It's Media it don't Matter....right?'
@cbtry16 Wrong, Bush Admin DOJ officials declined to prosecute many weeks before Obama took office. It was the Obama DOJ that got the injunction against Shabbaz barring him from protesting at polling places.
@sclf That's right, they want to paint a picture of "the angry black man", an image which strikes fear into many white people's minds. Fox wasn't successful with their Wright, Ayers, or birther nonsense, so this is simply their latest ploy.
@gategrl Why does it matter that he's black if he's angry? There are plenty of angry white men(See: Tea Party) but you don't seem to have an issue with them. This is why I'm convinced many conservative talking heads are racist, including, obviously Rush Limbaugh. The racism runs deep if you have a penchant of crying foul over someone's "angry blackness."
@JohnnyBB82 Cool. Now.. show me one. that's O N E video of a white man in the last little while that in any way resembles the one being discussed. No not Glenn and no not Rush. A man out on the street like the one in question openly advocating the death of members of another race. Got one of those Sparky? Nope I know you don't
@drhu@drhu The hell are you talking about? Sparky? Are you pretending that white racism doesn't exist? That's laughable. And, what does that have to do with anything I've talked about?
@JohnnyBB82 No i am saying all you want seen is white racism and want to paint our sidewalk screamer as a person with a legitimate argument. Produce the video that parallels that one.
@drhu No, sir. the "equivalent" isn't even met, but exceeded, in our history. This guy is screaming on a sidewalk. Blacks have literally been tortured, hanged, beaten, chased out of town, burned, etc. etc. How is screaming like a lunatic on a sidewalk anywhere near comparable to that? The dillhole from NBPP looks more like a homeless guy shouting about how the end-times are near. Guess who's giving that man a platform? I'd say an equivalent would be the Westboro Baptist Church.
@JohnnyBB82 No, see, you can't so it because it's not there. This man can advocate murder and it's just fine with YOU. Of I stood out on a sidewalk and screamed all that the other direction I would be on the front page of every paper.
That's a fact. That guy also committed a federal crime that Holder dropped charges on. Of course Democrats don't care anything about federal crime when it's a Democrat. Hateful murder inciting hypocrites.
@drhu Ok, half your comment didn't make sense, so I'll respond to the other half that (kinda/sorta) did. No, I'm not "fine" with this man "advocating" murder, but Fox News sure is. They can use this all damn day to trump up racial bias and fears. And that's exactly what they're doing. It's petty, it's ridiculous, but apparently they can get suckers all day, like you. You wouldn't even know who this lunatic Shabazz even is if it weren't for Fox News. Thanks, FNC, for giving NBPP a platform!
@JohnnyBB82 You need to know about things like that because folks like Media Matters are only going to give you Land of the Unicorns news. Such that isn't real.
Anything in that world that disagrees with Party policy is automatically labeled acist so as to demonize it. Period.
@drhu What are you talking about? you seem to describe Fox News to a tee. Media Matters actually sources what they say right back to the FNC source who uttered it. Any reasonable, nonpartisan American could look at the Media Matters website and would be shocked and appalled at some of the lies coming from the Republican PR department, i.e. Fox News.
@JohnnyBB82 the right is white the left is not both parties are racist against the other which in turn divides your country and it will be the downfall of you. all you are sheep following your favorite political hack how immature all you adults and parents are. i'm ashamed to be on the same planet with any of you and that includes all the religious retards who still believe in fairytales and blow eachother up over them cant wait to the world is cleansed of all the b.s. I'm a humanist.
@kaysandesses The dude was calling for black Americans to kill white Americans in a public place and he was engaging in voter intimidation at a polling place. Why are you and Media Matters OK with this?
@eatmorenachos no. you are lying. the case was dropped by the black supremacists over at the department of justice. seems your maoist muslim president supports voter intimidation as long as his own personal brown shirts are the ones intimidating the voters.
Wrong. Thomas Perez, the head of the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ (under Bush) testified in May that his team decided a prosecutable offense did not take place, so instead it filed an injunction to keep this guy this from happening again. This civil action took place on Jan. 7, 2009.
So I guess on your planet, Obama took office before Jan. 7 OR Bush's DoJ was staffed with "black supremacists" for it was BUSH'S team that decided not to press charges.
Sadly for your credibility, it was the Bush administration that decided not to pursue criminal charges. An injunction was filed Jan. 7, 2009---BEFORE Obama took office.
@PolitikalJunkie Thanks for having my back. As I've stated before, a single incident of alleged voter doesn't even register on the scale of the most watched "news" network in the U.S. deliberately spreading lies, fabrications, and deceptions all aimed at the President of the United States and the Democratic Party. The Fox Flunkies seem to forget that the network they worship is owned by foreigners, one of which is "one of them mooslims". Such ignorant people on the reich wing.
@electango Because there is no proven case of voter intimidation. Why are you okay with Fox "news" constantly lying and distorting the truth, you miserable fucking troll?
@kaysandesses You are quite wrong. Miserable fucking trolls are liberal mush heads like you who defend voter intimidation by Hussein Obama's brown shirts, unemployment, job losses and economic depression caused by Obama's inept economic policies and incompetent US Presidents like your Maoist Muslim President. Even you eventually will get sick of this President who cares more about what the Saudi royalty thinks than what's good for America.
@kaysandesses I mean im not big a BO supporter since hes more of a old GOP based on what hes done so far, its just dishonest so make these strawman arugments and attack him from afar to ruin his reputation to bolster the weak GOP.
@sclf I'm not happy that Obama hasn't been able to accomplish more of his goals, but I also understand that he's been significantly hampered by the GOP obstructionists. Our political system is that we have two candidates for President, and I can't imagine the dire straits we'd be suffering had McCain not chosen Caribou Barbie as his running mate.
@gategrl Just a bit more worried abut the KKK and right wing militias then the Black Panthers since they actually do more physical violence than the black "hate" groups.
Our world, our country, and our lives are being stolen right out from underneath us in the most massive obscene and grotesque transfer of wealth ever, yet our attention is directed toward the most obscure mundane news possible. Either go back to American Idol, crying brats in court, and childish bickering between US media or really break the cycle.
How about the fact that Iceland resisted the banks, voted out the corrupt politicians, voted in truly concerned citizens, and is attempting to prosecute the individuals and institutions responsible? Just maybe mentioning that the Middle actions in Iraq, Iran, and especially Afghanistan are just about resource theft (oil, gas, opium, industrial metals), corporatism (military-industrial complex), and monetary hegemony (banks, IMF, S.D.R), where's that news from Mediamatters?
A few things; Bill Hicks, reason incarnate, socially relevant, and logically poignant. Michael Shermer, a professional debunker and a shill. Carl Sagan, a great man who could have been greater, but instead forced to compromis his convictions. Thomas Edison, a greedy hack, a mental midget, who pales comparison to Nikola Tesla.
Or is it more important to know the fascism in the form of BP taking control and devastating the Gulf of Mexico, Goldman-Sachs (Federal Reserve) calling the shots in the Whitehouse, or that their is economic strife and riots in Greece, Italy, Romania, and at the G20 directly resulting from the proposed "austerity measure" a.k.a. passing the crushing economic debt caused by corrupt banking practices to the, as BP Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg told reporters, the "small people".
The news is recidivism at work and otiose at best. Whether liberal or conservative, either side has an overlapping agenda to create obfuscation and a distraction from the world behind the veil.
Do we really need to be concerned with some Black Panther members, who were actually protecting the black community voters? Is it important to know LeBron James signed a deal with Miami or seeing Lindsey Lohan crying in court?
@mattghtpa the new black panther party doesn't "protect" anyone, let alone black people. they harass and intimidate blacks for not being radical extremists and joining them to "take this country back from the fucking crackers". they are a crazy group responding to the crazy teabaggers. i agree that we are not getting the real story--no matter where the hell we look for it--and i want to know why! most here seem to eat up what MM serves up without question and that is just as concerning to me.
@Frodo1962 If I recall from when the news first aired on the matter concerning the Black Panther's, it was a response to black voters being intimidated by police. The BP's response was a push back, the black community protecting its own. Considering the candidates at the time, it isn't too hard to understand what was taking place and what the controlled media was reporting.
I’m not supporting the BP party, I’m just being factual as I remember it.
@mattghtpa Yes it is important to know that a BP leader is not being charged with voter intimidation esp when there is proof. Could a white man get away with that???And it is important that this same man is calling his brothers to "kill the crackers and their cracker babies." And if a white man said that? And if the main stream media would report it, maybe we could get our country on the right track..
@gategrl There is no proof! Where is the proof? Hearsay isn't proof, nor is it admissible in a court of law. There was no concrete evidence, and that's why the case was thrown out.
There reason why no charges were filed is because there was no intimidation. Notice how Fox News doesn't show video of those 2 black guys "intimidating"? They know they're bullshit liars.
@robertmike57 Indeed, the only complaint filed was by a white Republican poll watcher. What most people don't know, because they're too lazy to find out for themselves, is that the charges were dropped while GWB was still in office. Furthermore, is was an Obama DOJ official who got the injunction against Shabbaz.
Seriously, who watches this shit? I know somebody's watching it, because it's still on the air. But really, people are this dumb to watch this crap and think they are getting 'news' out of the deal?
@halflifeproductionz I'm really looking forward to November. Your Muslim Marxist President is going to get his lunch handed to him. His consistent lying to America about who he is and his lobbying for Saudi oil interests is going to land him a Republican Congress. If he had only listened to the American people.
@halflifeproductionz it may very well be the case that bush was a saudi lobbyist. however, your marxist muslim president is also working for the saudis. haven't we had enough presidents working for the saudis? it's time we had at long last a president working for the american people.
@electango and who does work for the american people, john sidney mccain? the guy that wants to put more boots into iraq and just completely annhilate the iraqi people!
@halflifeproductionz we will never know how things would have gone under a mccain presidency. however under obama there are absolutely no jobs being created, people are still being just completely annihilated in iraq with a major escalation of the afghan quagmire and no improvements on the horizon. under obama the endless wars policy of bush continues and the bush recession is getting worse.
so is media matters for nothing saying it's okay to intimidate white voters? do they deserve that from the years of slavery? is this payback for that?
what IS the real story here. the "new black panthers" are an extreme hate group that intimidated voters in '08. i'm interested in why the charges were dropped no matter who is pushing this story. the doj justified torture, so why should we have confidence in the doj? if the kkk had been standing outside of polling places with weapons in their hands we would all be in an uproar. let's have clarity here regardless of what side we are on.
@junkforkaryn 100% agree with you. I hate FOX because they are biased and liars, but you can't agree with having someone holding a nightstick in front of a polling station. That's outrageous.
@kaysandesses and? Just because no one "reported they didn't vote because were intimidated" everything's allright? Hell no it's not! There are two men military outfit and one is holding a nightstick at the doors of a polling place. That's not defendable. And don't get me wrong : fox sprays bs everytime they open their mouths, i do agree with that completely. But they didn't put those 2 men in front of that door and they didn't give 'em the nightstick. Keeping it real is the only way against Faux
@RaychSeldon33 Voter intimidation is of course a serious issue. I'm keeping it real by suggesting that other members here do a little side research and not get twisted out of shape simply from what Fox is feeding the populace. As usual they report only the part of the story that suits their agenda. There is no evidence of foul play by the Obama admin. In fact the charges were dropped before Obama took office by a member of the Bush DOJ.
@kaysandesses We obviously agree. Of course those 2 men didn't threaten anyone and there was not a foul play from the Obama administration as Fox "journalists" tend to suggest... My point is just to say : "ok, those Fox asses are morons. But why going to a polling station with a nightstick?"
@junkforkaryn Shabbazz (the man with the nightstick) has been given an injuction that bars him from going to any polling place for several years. Charges were dropped for the other defendants due to lack of evidence justifying their prosecution.
@kaysandesses@kaysandesses the doj lawyer for the case won't let it go, is that the justification for re-opening the case? there were 2 men outside the polling place in philly, so why wasn't the other man charged? and as far as voters not reporting that they didn't vote--why do you think they call it intimidation? of course they aren't going to say anything! plenty of eyewitnesses saw people walk away from the poll that day w/o voting, if they came back later to vote is a moot point.
@junkforkaryn Follow the link above and gain some facts about the case. You're being suckered in by the very phenomenon being discussed in this video.
@kaysandesses wanting the facts of a case is not being suckered. i'm a progressive liberal that is seriously questioning why the liberal media is focusing on fox rather than the issues of the case. 2 men in front of a polling place wearing self-styled uniforms and carrying nightsticks talking crazy to voters is a real concern for me. why isn't it a concern for you?
@junkforkaryn It was a concern for me so I did some research and I'm only suggesting you do the same, and the link above in the video description is a good place to start.
This video is just one example that MM is using to demonstrate how Fox interjects propaganda into the rest of mainstream media. Why isn't that a concern for you? Fox's successful methods us way fucking more dangerous than one black dude waving a night stick at one polling place in a nearly all black precinct.
@kaysandesses my research has been on the new black panthers--their main focus is on intimidating black people! if white militia men had been intimidating white voters at a white polling place, then that would be ok with you? who is casting a blind eye here? have you researched the new black panther party? fox is bullshit, so for me that bit of info is old news. check out the nat. geo. documentary on this new panther party, and then let me know how comfy you feel about them.
@junkforkaryn I'm not defending the NBPP, in fact the original Black Panthers decry their motives and methods. The problem with this whole situation that you seem to ignore is that Fox is basically saying this is a cover-up by the Obama Administration when the charges were dropped BEFORE Obama took office. The only "punishment" meted out against Shabbaz was by the Obama DOJ who filed for and won the injuction against him which bars him from protesting outside polling places for several years.
@junkforkaryn No one got intimidated. There was no evidence that anyone was intimidated. This is why the case was dropped. It had nothing to do with race. The case was cut and dry. Fox News and Christopher Adams, are trying to inject race into it. Take a look into Adams' background and you'll see why he's politically motivated to bringing scandal into Obama's DOJ where there is none. He was part of the politicization of Bush's DOJ.
@JohnnyBB82 my understanding is that eric holder is reexamining the case. does that mean that the doj can be intimidated by fox and their political operatives? i have read that democratic activists were also witnesses to this incident and i've seen the uncut unedited video of the incident in question. the men were clearly afoul of the law just by standing outside shouting egregious crap at people trying to do their civic duty.
@junkforkaryn Yes. They can, and it's been shown time and again, beginning with the abandonment of the highly popular public option. There was nothing untoward by what they were doing. It's called freedom of speech. This isn't "intimidation at the polls" as has been historically known. There were no firehoses, no polling taxes. In fact, this case shouldn't have made it to the supreme court! Anyone who would've been "intimidated" were already afraid of black men and should seek professional help.
@JohnnyBB82 It is against the law to stand outside polling areas telling people who to vote for with billyclubs, whether or not anyone was actually intimidated? And have you seen the video of this same man telling the brothers to kill crackers and to kill cracker babies? If this was a white man saying to kill black people and their babies all hell would break lose and that would be covered by the lame stream media right? What a sickening mess. No more honesty and integrity left.
@gategrl I've yet to see video of these men telling people who to vote for. There is no video except the man asking those two what they were doing. One of the men apparently lived in the building! Where were any laws violated? I know, there's video immediately following showing a Fox News "reporter" asking the Republican pollster who called the cops questions, but there is no video of "intimidation" of any kind. The only people who would be intimidated were racist to begin with.
damn, laura ingraham is turning into one of those closed twatted alum gobbling tight assed Fox news trollettes -- she used to be HOT, but now she looks like an old dowager blonde-to-cover-the-gray lying sacks of poop who propagandize to their feuhrer right wing dullards and the GOP on a daily basis.... yuck..
Sadly, I doubt MMfA will be able to really stop this. Even though it was the Bush DOJ that decided not to press criminal charges, even though the Obama DOJ has obtained judgement against one of the Black Panthers. None of those measly facts matters to Fox. And people do believe this. It's all part of the Tea Party meme that Obama is going to kill white people. And I know people who think it will soon be illegal for white people to breed.
@xep5k That's because Fox News spends way too much time and effort lying to people, promoting disinformation, engaging in partisan politics, and fear mongering.
@xep5k If all MMfA covered was Fox Noise, you'd have a hint of a point. But the fact is that MM covers an extensive range of conservative media too. From the Weekly Standard, RedState, etc. It's a veritable potpourri of misinformation.
@Frodo1962 MSNBC's tagline is 'the place for politics', while fox breaks their jaws insisting they're 'fair and balanced'. If fox would stop pretending and simply admit to being conservative the accusations of bias wouldn't be so intense (The accusations of being horrifically uninformed, on the other hand). Plus MSNBC uses a lot of its night time and weekend schedule to show Dateline, Lockup, etc. where fox is a 24/7 misinformation station.
@PoliticalJunkie I watch both, and have the common sense to know when they're both being biased, ill be the first one to say Beck can be a wingnut, but to have credibility each and everyone of us must have a balance,
If you want to critique Fox for overplaying the NBPP, then you have to use the same critique against MSNBC for not reporting on it at all
The issue isn't that they cover the NBPP case, that's not relevant to what I was saying. It's the broader picture; MSNBC knows it is biased, and doesn't pretend otherwise. fox pretends it is unbiased, and doesn't care when its proven to have an agenda.
@PoliticalJunkie You mean the AP story they ran, buried deep within its political slanted vault, in response to your illiterate comment, it only proves that you have no desire for information exchange, and will resort to ignorance before viable dialect if your not careful ill start using words from "mattghtpa" dictionary
and if that doesn't work I shall fart in your general direction
@Frodo1962@Frodo1962 Your comments are the wet sloppy sharts on the asscrack of dialogue.
If MSNBC didn't "report[...] on it at all" (your words, remember), they wouldn't have even bothered with the AP story which could be found on their site via a two-second Google search.
The illiterate comment was followed by a detailed critique of the spittle you spewed (that did not address my central point which you have yet to actually talk about).
@PolitikalJunkie First off, Lay off the Junk, your attempt to sound intelligent has vanished with your retort,
By reposting another link shows just how ignorant you are, and please, you use the definition of illiterate to define my posts, yet you are the poster child for the exact definition you use
If your trying to insult me, Ignorant would have been a better choice of words,
How DARE the mainstream media boogeymen not run a 10 second clip of two black guys doing NOTHING for what collectively, I'm sure, is hours and hours. It's bullshit. They didn't do anything. No one cares. Obama won the election. GET. THE. FUCK. OVER. IT. Everyone in October of 2008 knew who was winning, you fools. He won by 100 electoral votes. For Gods sake. Can you fucking lose just ONCE? What the hell is wrong with these fools? Pure delusion. Pure bullshit...
ageofmisinformation 3 weeks ago
It can't be stopped if the Obama administration then takes action to censor itself as a response to these attacks. I don't know what I find more disgusting, the senseless attacks or the pussy reaction.
PktMma 1 month ago
Name of the song ?
MenwithHill 3 months ago
George Soros' Media Matters is slowly dying.
RoboSlater 4 months ago
At least the jazz music in this piece of hateful leftwing video propaganda is cool ...
RoboSlater 4 months ago
Newsflash: Fox turned out to be 100% right on this story. Thought you ought to know...
RoboSlater 4 months ago
Fox is the Mainstream News
MendingMedia 10 months ago
obama's AG Holder dropped this case. Just look it up.
AirMail56 10 months ago
MediaMatters supports the Black Supremacist Panthers. The same Panthers who wanted to kill the Duke lacrosse players.
StoogeWatcher 10 months ago
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OK, I get it now. Everything posted by mediamatters4america is just slanted propaganda from the left. Thumbs down whenever I accidentally stumble upon them.
osxing 10 months ago
Ok, I get it now, Everything posted by mediamattersforamerica is propagnada from the left. Thumbs down when I actually stumble on them.
osxing 10 months ago
I think a legitimate case of voter intimidation is a pretty bad example if you're tying to make FOX news look bad. I think the title of this vid should read. "FOX NEWS ONLY SOURCE REPORTING VOTER INTIMIDATION." This is kinda like the left trying to label church going people as extreme, dangerous or radical. Their clever little plot would actually work if the other 80% of the country were as stupid as they present themselves to be.
hatfisc 1 year ago
As we can see from the comments here, progressives LIKE voter intimidation and fraud. I guess they figure that's the only way their candidates can win.
Antonio33s 1 year ago
is it just me is most of fox news are stupid blonds??
moneyjr1122 1 year ago
Media matters, unlike Fox, gives background information and sources for its reporting. Fox is not news, it's a GOP political propaganda arm.
scbluesman13 1 year ago
Hi and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and with me as always is Charles W. "Chuck" Bryant...
flexibleskedule 1 year ago
@flexibleskedule stuff you should know!!! check it out
skydive7273x 1 year ago
Mediamatters damages it's own credibility by playing the silly music along with the clips. Both the left and the right are idiots.
HelmutVonSphincter 1 year ago
my favorite part is about how this clip is supposed to attack Fox, but instead it just shows Fox talking about important news that other stations won't even discuss. sooo... does Obama literally sit here and run this channel or does he just tell you guys what to do?
Frettsy 1 year ago 2
@Frettsy the point is that it's not important news... it's hyped up by fox as a big story until other news organizations pick up the story (because they are also stupid) and that's how this crap gets into the mainstream... they've done it over and over (van jones, shirley sherrod, black panthers, NYC mosque... want me to keep going?)
spiderwebb33 1 year ago
You guy's are right it all doesn't mater! Because Bush was evil. And its not a crime to intimidate voter at the poling place because their black and just ignore that Bartle Bull
pepschmidt 1 year ago
@pepschmidt Ok, yeah, since no voter came forward to allege intimidation, it's pretty clear that there was no voter intimidation. A McCain poll watcher would hardly be credible, given his clear opposition to Obama. Man, you guys will believe ANYTHING! It'd be hilarious, if it weren't so damned sad.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 yeah for some reason my comment got cut off but if you'd look up "Bartle Bull" He's one of the credible witnesses that testified in court He's a liberal civil rights attorney that called it "The worst case of voter intimidation I'v ever seen." I'f you'd do the minimum amount of research you'l find the whole video, video of the trial and the video of Malik shabazz saying that they did! and that the DOJ gave'm a joke of sentence!!!
pepschmidt 1 year ago 4
@pepschmidt Ok, Bartle Bull is anything but "liberal." Did you know he was a McCain poll watcher? And, if this is such a big issue, and the voting booth is "sacrosanct," as Megyn Kelly puts it, then why aren't they up in arms about the dozens of cases thrown out by the Bush DOJ against white intimidators, like the one in AZ in '06 who harrassed Mexican-looking voters with a 9mm, asking them questions to make sure they spoke English, and taking photos to compare to pics of felons and illegals?
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@pepschmidt I'm not trying to excuse Shabazz for acting like a jackass, because he clearly did, but that doesn't mean anyone was intimidated. If no voter comes forward to claim intimidation, then a case for voter intimidation is pretty much dead in the water, no?
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 Ok I looked at your profile and your a troll so i'm not going to try and convince you. Just because someone did something bad before doesn't make it ok to do it again and WHY does every lib troll think that conservatives like Bush we don't.
pepschmidt 1 year ago
@pepschmidt I'm not a troll. If trolling is asking fair questions and pointing out fallacies, then I'm a troll. But, if you don't want to admit when you're wrong, and just want to attack me personally, then you, sir, ahve your own issues you need to work out. I'm not bringing up Bush because of you, but bringing that up to poin t out that fox News is being politically and racially biased. Tryin to help you out, partner.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 I'll keep is short.... Stop listning to the "main stream media" including fox don't listen to sites with an agenda IE Media Maters take the subject and invest some time in SOURCE research. There you will find the truth....
pepschmidt 1 year ago 2
@pepschmidt You're willing to fully invest in the Foc narrative- yet you're telling me not to buy into anyone's. I know what is fact vs. fiction. It's called backing up your stories with facts and research. It happens all the time on "mainstream" channels, as well as Media Matters. The only place research isn't used to back stories and articles up is- you guessed it, Fox News. This is why I have the bone to pick that I do about FNC in particular, and the conservative "movement" in general.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 I give up....
pepschmidt 1 year ago
@pepschmidt Keep at it. That's what the right wing does best, no? Have no argument, so give up?
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
There was no case. For there to be a case you have to have a victim and there was no victim.
SpitfireOFatj 1 year ago
Media matters is the arm of the anti-christ.
mamachaabear 1 year ago
@mamachaabear
There has to be a christ for there to be an anti-christ. For there to be a christ there would have to be a god. Since there is no god, there is no anti-christ.
Preach to people who buy into fairy tales, aka not here.
nidodson 1 year ago
@nidodson owned. lmfao
xn117 1 year ago
Your collectivist desire too be slaves is puzzling. A hundred years of propaganda killed by the ability of the people too actually get the truth, for themselves. This is America, take your euro trash belief system and go there, its a win win.
hydin1 1 year ago
Oddly enough, it was the BUSH Department of Justice that went for civil charges over criminal charges, and the Obama DOJ has obtained criminal judgement for one of the guys holding a nightstick. Fox News probably won't mention those facts. This is just the latest right wing shot at impeaching Obama after they win in November. They are relentless. I hear they're trying to get him for jaywalking too. Sadly, I am not joking.
Dacadvid 1 year ago
Fox News:We put the shit in bullshit!!!!!!!!!
joespeed87 1 year ago
Reagan had to rebuild the military because it was down to nothing when he took over as President. AND the Clinton Adminstration benefited from the tax cuts that Reagan put into place while President. Clinton really have to do a thing other than the Oklahoma City bombing
gracie97007 1 year ago
@gracie97007 Hah, spoken like a true "facts be damned" republican.
cdog4100 1 year ago
Fox News got burned by the ACORN hoax, but they're determined to keep white voters scared of blacks until election day. So they resurrect this NBPP "story" and milk it for all it's worth. After this story runs its course, what will be Fox News' NEXT target? Head Start?
Towncrier123 1 year ago
When your country is full of mindless morons there is money in pandering to them. Fox news isnt the real problem, the morons are.
fantasy0coach 1 year ago
Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann both told the Truth on this story, sadly the rest of the msm has not.
Tazirai 1 year ago
This story is two years old! The last thing I remember hearing about this story was that they could not charge them with anything because one of the men lived in the building they were standing in front of. Another day another Fox news lie!
dontwalkdontrun 1 year ago
Fox News = Corporate Totalitarianism
Rupert Murdoch evil Fascist
ManufacturedThoughts 1 year ago
When people realize that FOX isn't a news channel, but a propaganda channel, then we can all recognize it for what it is and turn the channel.
voyzovrezon 1 year ago
Media Matters thinks its Left Wing Liberal Opinion and Commentary is NOT Biased!?
Media Matters believes ANY criticism of Obama is racist and biased and should not be allowed in America.
what a joke you people are...
ChaseRocker 1 year ago
@ChaseRocker Ok, Media Matters ISN'T a news organization, but a left-wing media watchdog, trying to contain the bold-faced lies of the right. Fox News, on the other hand, injects race into every Obama piece they run, and they CLAIM to be "fair and balanced" AND "news." Neither of which are true, but at least Media Matters tells you what they are and their mission. Fox News carries on with their lie because of so many complicit tools out there willing to carry their water.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
This video put out by Media Matters purposely misses the point to throw you off. (A.) Is the information true? DOJ won the case by default; the plaintiffs were so sure of their political ties that they didn't even bother to show up in court. (B) Why doesn't DOJ open a new case for the clear 'hate speech', "I hate crackers (whites); kill cracker babies!"? If they were Whites, DOJ would be on it like 'white on rice', excuse the pun, but you know it's true. Justice or revenge? I wonder...?
1stPxeBoot 1 year ago
@1stPxeBoot There was no evidence, so even if they won, it would've been a hollow, baseless victory. Would you want our DOJ "winning" in this manner? And secondly, where did you hear they were saying that garbage? It's not on video! Remember, "hate speech," whether from the right or left, isn't prosecutable, unless there is evidence that it's incited violence.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
what are you afraid of media matters? what are you afraid of wacky leftist commies? the truth...and Nickelson said "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!"
Fox News IS telling the truth and hence the bullying and garbage that is thrown at them.
Fox tells the people the facts and the liberals whacks get pissed off and spew out lies to try and destroy Fox or anyone who agrees with Fox.
Just like stupid bullies they don't last because they have NO spine...FOX rips them to shreds!
gracie97007 1 year ago
@gracie97007
The "truth"? Has FOX pointed out the truth that it was the Bush administration not the Obama administration that dropped the charges? Media Matters isn't the one afraid of the truth here.
buddy51 1 year ago
@gracie97007 fox telling the truth???? isn't that like you thinking you have a brain???
eugeneonegin09 1 year ago
@gracie97007 It really tickles my asshole when people say "huh duh Fox has high ratings so huh the numbers speak duh huh" Because they're saying that popularity is accuracy, it's ridiculous ! it is so fucking stupid. There's a number of reasons why Fox "news" has high ratings and most of them (all of them) have nothing to do with their "fair and balanced" journalism, people don't give a shit about what is true or not, they just like to hear their opinion aired on TV.
12palin 1 year ago 2
@gracie97007 Fox News are the bullies. I don't see any other channel rabidly trying their damndest to shape public policy or opinion. Media Matters can back up and cite EVERYTHING they say. There is heavy racial bias, and a clear bias toward one political party, even though the falsely claim they're "fair and balanced."
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@gracie97007 Conservatives have been practicing this type of doublespeak since they claimed Reagan presided over the "longest expansion in peacetime," even though it was only for the top 1%, while the rest of the country went into debt and bankruptcy. Clinton actually presided over the longest ACTUAL peacetime expansion in our history.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
learn the facts and dont ever watch fox
kargenlewis 1 year ago 2
they never showed how fox distorted the story I guess they forgot that part.
hozehd 1 year ago
@hozehd It's all extensively covered at their website which anyone intellectually curious enough* can visit.
*Which excludes around 88% of right-wingers.
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@PolitikalJunkie Or more than likely we are being baited into TPMs capitalistic venture to drum up advertising revenue through increased site traffic. This medium should be sufficient for them to make their point but I guess it was more important for them to try to pad their pockets while pretending that they had some sort of legitimate gripe.
hozehd 1 year ago
The case was dropped by the BUSH administration, two weeks before Obama took office and a few MONTHS before Holder was attorney general.
Fox "news," they make it up, you imbibe.
eatmorenachos 1 year ago 49
@eatmorenachos The case was not dropped by the Bush administration as proven by the Washington Post in todays paper(7-18). Of course it really doesn't matter because this is the kind of behavior Media Matters upholds as right and just even if it is a federal crime. Oh that's right federal crimes don't matter. It's Media it don't Matter....right?'
drhu 1 year ago 4
Thank you media matters, you guys are awesome.
drgoodvibesxxx 1 year ago
Since Charges were correctly dropped in May, 2009 against the New Black Panther Party I think Obama was president than?
cbtry16 1 year ago
what does "correctly dropped" mean?
BeondaPale 1 year ago
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@cbtry16 correctly dropped? You mean violations of the Voting Rights Act should not be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
electango 1 year ago
@cbtry16 Wrong, Bush Admin DOJ officials declined to prosecute many weeks before Obama took office. It was the Obama DOJ that got the injunction against Shabbaz barring him from protesting at polling places.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
This is exacly what happed with so-called climategate
ismaithliombainne 1 year ago
Hmm trying to get white people scared of the Black Panther movement and alude that Barack Obama is one of them.
sclf 1 year ago
@sclf That's right, they want to paint a picture of "the angry black man", an image which strikes fear into many white people's minds. Fox wasn't successful with their Wright, Ayers, or birther nonsense, so this is simply their latest ploy.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses Are you saying Wright is not an angry black man?
gategrl 1 year ago
@gategrl Why does it matter that he's black if he's angry? There are plenty of angry white men(See: Tea Party) but you don't seem to have an issue with them. This is why I'm convinced many conservative talking heads are racist, including, obviously Rush Limbaugh. The racism runs deep if you have a penchant of crying foul over someone's "angry blackness."
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago 15
@JohnnyBB82 Cool. Now.. show me one. that's O N E video of a white man in the last little while that in any way resembles the one being discussed. No not Glenn and no not Rush. A man out on the street like the one in question openly advocating the death of members of another race. Got one of those Sparky? Nope I know you don't
drhu 1 year ago
@drhu @drhu The hell are you talking about? Sparky? Are you pretending that white racism doesn't exist? That's laughable. And, what does that have to do with anything I've talked about?
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 No i am saying all you want seen is white racism and want to paint our sidewalk screamer as a person with a legitimate argument. Produce the video that parallels that one.
drhu 1 year ago
@drhu No, sir. the "equivalent" isn't even met, but exceeded, in our history. This guy is screaming on a sidewalk. Blacks have literally been tortured, hanged, beaten, chased out of town, burned, etc. etc. How is screaming like a lunatic on a sidewalk anywhere near comparable to that? The dillhole from NBPP looks more like a homeless guy shouting about how the end-times are near. Guess who's giving that man a platform? I'd say an equivalent would be the Westboro Baptist Church.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 No, see, you can't so it because it's not there. This man can advocate murder and it's just fine with YOU. Of I stood out on a sidewalk and screamed all that the other direction I would be on the front page of every paper.
That's a fact. That guy also committed a federal crime that Holder dropped charges on. Of course Democrats don't care anything about federal crime when it's a Democrat. Hateful murder inciting hypocrites.
drhu 1 year ago 2
@drhu Ok, half your comment didn't make sense, so I'll respond to the other half that (kinda/sorta) did. No, I'm not "fine" with this man "advocating" murder, but Fox News sure is. They can use this all damn day to trump up racial bias and fears. And that's exactly what they're doing. It's petty, it's ridiculous, but apparently they can get suckers all day, like you. You wouldn't even know who this lunatic Shabazz even is if it weren't for Fox News. Thanks, FNC, for giving NBPP a platform!
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JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 You need to know about things like that because folks like Media Matters are only going to give you Land of the Unicorns news. Such that isn't real.
Anything in that world that disagrees with Party policy is automatically labeled acist so as to demonize it. Period.
drhu 1 year ago
@drhu What are you talking about? you seem to describe Fox News to a tee. Media Matters actually sources what they say right back to the FNC source who uttered it. Any reasonable, nonpartisan American could look at the Media Matters website and would be shocked and appalled at some of the lies coming from the Republican PR department, i.e. Fox News.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 the right is white the left is not both parties are racist against the other which in turn divides your country and it will be the downfall of you. all you are sheep following your favorite political hack how immature all you adults and parents are. i'm ashamed to be on the same planet with any of you and that includes all the religious retards who still believe in fairytales and blow eachother up over them cant wait to the world is cleansed of all the b.s. I'm a humanist.
jhborden 1 year ago
@jhborden Pretty wild rant there, though I can't tell where you were going with it..... Please, try to clear this up for me...
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 not a rant just not enought character's to use to write so I edited to make it short but I think it pretty self explanatory. :)
jhborden 1 year ago
@jhborden It doesn't make any sense. How can something that doesn't make sense be self-explanatory?
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@gategrl The conversation isn't about Wright. Please try and keep up.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@gategrl wright is so 2008. it's 2010. get over it
eugeneonegin09 1 year ago
@kaysandesses The dude was calling for black Americans to kill white Americans in a public place and he was engaging in voter intimidation at a polling place. Why are you and Media Matters OK with this?
electango 1 year ago
@electango ,
The case was dropped by the Bush administration, two weeks before Obama even took office. Fox is lying (again).
eatmorenachos 1 year ago
@eatmorenachos no. you are lying. the case was dropped by the black supremacists over at the department of justice. seems your maoist muslim president supports voter intimidation as long as his own personal brown shirts are the ones intimidating the voters.
electango 1 year ago
@electango ,
Wrong. Thomas Perez, the head of the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ (under Bush) testified in May that his team decided a prosecutable offense did not take place, so instead it filed an injunction to keep this guy this from happening again. This civil action took place on Jan. 7, 2009.
So I guess on your planet, Obama took office before Jan. 7 OR Bush's DoJ was staffed with "black supremacists" for it was BUSH'S team that decided not to press charges.
eatmorenachos 1 year ago
@eatmorenachos Sadly for your credibility, Thomas Perez never worked under Bush. He was appointed to the DOJ by Obama. Nice try.
electango 1 year ago
@electango ,
Sadly for your credibility, it was the Bush administration that decided not to pursue criminal charges. An injunction was filed Jan. 7, 2009---BEFORE Obama took office.
eatmorenachos 1 year ago
@electango When did MM and Kays say they were alright with anything? Not to mention the doofus Shabazz got an injunciton against him.
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@PolitikalJunkie Thanks for having my back. As I've stated before, a single incident of alleged voter doesn't even register on the scale of the most watched "news" network in the U.S. deliberately spreading lies, fabrications, and deceptions all aimed at the President of the United States and the Democratic Party. The Fox Flunkies seem to forget that the network they worship is owned by foreigners, one of which is "one of them mooslims". Such ignorant people on the reich wing.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@electango Because there is no proven case of voter intimidation. Why are you okay with Fox "news" constantly lying and distorting the truth, you miserable fucking troll?
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses You are quite wrong. Miserable fucking trolls are liberal mush heads like you who defend voter intimidation by Hussein Obama's brown shirts, unemployment, job losses and economic depression caused by Obama's inept economic policies and incompetent US Presidents like your Maoist Muslim President. Even you eventually will get sick of this President who cares more about what the Saudi royalty thinks than what's good for America.
electango 1 year ago
@kaysandesses I mean im not big a BO supporter since hes more of a old GOP based on what hes done so far, its just dishonest so make these strawman arugments and attack him from afar to ruin his reputation to bolster the weak GOP.
sclf 1 year ago
@sclf I'm not happy that Obama hasn't been able to accomplish more of his goals, but I also understand that he's been significantly hampered by the GOP obstructionists. Our political system is that we have two candidates for President, and I can't imagine the dire straits we'd be suffering had McCain not chosen Caribou Barbie as his running mate.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@sclf You aren't afraid ot this man telling his brothers to kill the crackers and the cracker's babies?
gategrl 1 year ago
@gategrl Just a bit more worried abut the KKK and right wing militias then the Black Panthers since they actually do more physical violence than the black "hate" groups.
sclf 1 year ago
CNN is becoming a blogger for FOX news. Pathetic.
YOURINQUIRER 1 year ago
Our world, our country, and our lives are being stolen right out from underneath us in the most massive obscene and grotesque transfer of wealth ever, yet our attention is directed toward the most obscure mundane news possible. Either go back to American Idol, crying brats in court, and childish bickering between US media or really break the cycle.
mattghtpa 1 year ago
@mattghtpa It's not clear wealth is transferring. It seems to be more disappearing.
electango 1 year ago
How about the fact that Iceland resisted the banks, voted out the corrupt politicians, voted in truly concerned citizens, and is attempting to prosecute the individuals and institutions responsible? Just maybe mentioning that the Middle actions in Iraq, Iran, and especially Afghanistan are just about resource theft (oil, gas, opium, industrial metals), corporatism (military-industrial complex), and monetary hegemony (banks, IMF, S.D.R), where's that news from Mediamatters?
mattghtpa 1 year ago
@mattghtpa 'where's that news from Mediamatters? '
Dumbest question ever.
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@PolitikalJunkie Unfortunately, I would have to agree.
mattghtpa 1 year ago
@PolitikalJunkie
A few things; Bill Hicks, reason incarnate, socially relevant, and logically poignant. Michael Shermer, a professional debunker and a shill. Carl Sagan, a great man who could have been greater, but instead forced to compromis his convictions. Thomas Edison, a greedy hack, a mental midget, who pales comparison to Nikola Tesla.
That’s all I have to say.
mattghtpa 1 year ago
@mattghtpa Media Matters isn't a news organization. It's a media watchdog organization. Check their website.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
Or is it more important to know the fascism in the form of BP taking control and devastating the Gulf of Mexico, Goldman-Sachs (Federal Reserve) calling the shots in the Whitehouse, or that their is economic strife and riots in Greece, Italy, Romania, and at the G20 directly resulting from the proposed "austerity measure" a.k.a. passing the crushing economic debt caused by corrupt banking practices to the, as BP Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg told reporters, the "small people".
mattghtpa 1 year ago
The news is recidivism at work and otiose at best. Whether liberal or conservative, either side has an overlapping agenda to create obfuscation and a distraction from the world behind the veil.
Do we really need to be concerned with some Black Panther members, who were actually protecting the black community voters? Is it important to know LeBron James signed a deal with Miami or seeing Lindsey Lohan crying in court?
mattghtpa 1 year ago
@mattghtpa the new black panther party doesn't "protect" anyone, let alone black people. they harass and intimidate blacks for not being radical extremists and joining them to "take this country back from the fucking crackers". they are a crazy group responding to the crazy teabaggers. i agree that we are not getting the real story--no matter where the hell we look for it--and i want to know why! most here seem to eat up what MM serves up without question and that is just as concerning to me.
junkforkaryn 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn I'm curious to know what specific parts of MM's analysis that causes you alarm or that you disagree with?
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@mattghtpa First, Cool words, had to google em just to see wtf you were talking about,
My answer to your questions
1. Yes, and who were they protecting them from?
2. No
3. No
Frodo1962 1 year ago
@Frodo1962 If I recall from when the news first aired on the matter concerning the Black Panther's, it was a response to black voters being intimidated by police. The BP's response was a push back, the black community protecting its own. Considering the candidates at the time, it isn't too hard to understand what was taking place and what the controlled media was reporting.
I’m not supporting the BP party, I’m just being factual as I remember it.
mattghtpa 1 year ago 4
@mattghtpa Yes it is important to know that a BP leader is not being charged with voter intimidation esp when there is proof. Could a white man get away with that???And it is important that this same man is calling his brothers to "kill the crackers and their cracker babies." And if a white man said that? And if the main stream media would report it, maybe we could get our country on the right track..
gategrl 1 year ago
@gategrl There is no proof! Where is the proof? Hearsay isn't proof, nor is it admissible in a court of law. There was no concrete evidence, and that's why the case was thrown out.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
There reason why no charges were filed is because there was no intimidation. Notice how Fox News doesn't show video of those 2 black guys "intimidating"? They know they're bullshit liars.
robertmike57 1 year ago
@robertmike57 Indeed, the only complaint filed was by a white Republican poll watcher. What most people don't know, because they're too lazy to find out for themselves, is that the charges were dropped while GWB was still in office. Furthermore, is was an Obama DOJ official who got the injunction against Shabbaz.
kaysandesses 1 year ago 2
Fox "News:' Making scared, racist white people feel better about themselves since '08.
Tyrtamus 1 year ago
Seriously, who watches this shit? I know somebody's watching it, because it's still on the air. But really, people are this dumb to watch this crap and think they are getting 'news' out of the deal?
M0US3P0T4TO 1 year ago
fuck the conservative DICKHEADS!
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
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@halflifeproductionz I'm really looking forward to November. Your Muslim Marxist President is going to get his lunch handed to him. His consistent lying to America about who he is and his lobbying for Saudi oil interests is going to land him a Republican Congress. If he had only listened to the American people.
electango 1 year ago
@electango bwahaha i think its your savior george bush the second that was working for saudi oil interests! haha
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
@halflifeproductionz it may very well be the case that bush was a saudi lobbyist. however, your marxist muslim president is also working for the saudis. haven't we had enough presidents working for the saudis? it's time we had at long last a president working for the american people.
electango 1 year ago
@electango and who does work for the american people, john sidney mccain? the guy that wants to put more boots into iraq and just completely annhilate the iraqi people!
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
@halflifeproductionz we will never know how things would have gone under a mccain presidency. however under obama there are absolutely no jobs being created, people are still being just completely annihilated in iraq with a major escalation of the afghan quagmire and no improvements on the horizon. under obama the endless wars policy of bush continues and the bush recession is getting worse.
electango 1 year ago
@electango Agreed!
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
so is media matters for nothing saying it's okay to intimidate white voters? do they deserve that from the years of slavery? is this payback for that?
fishergirlusmc 1 year ago
@fishergirlusmc
Don't assume that something is true just because Fox "News" says it is.
In fact . . .
; )
what they report is usually the opposite of the truth.
ReliableInsider 1 year ago 2
what IS the real story here. the "new black panthers" are an extreme hate group that intimidated voters in '08. i'm interested in why the charges were dropped no matter who is pushing this story. the doj justified torture, so why should we have confidence in the doj? if the kkk had been standing outside of polling places with weapons in their hands we would all be in an uproar. let's have clarity here regardless of what side we are on.
junkforkaryn 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn 100% agree with you. I hate FOX because they are biased and liars, but you can't agree with having someone holding a nightstick in front of a polling station. That's outrageous.
RaychSeldon33 1 year ago
@RaychSeldon33 It is outrageous but there were also no voters who reported they didn't vote because they were intimidated by Shabbazz.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses and? Just because no one "reported they didn't vote because were intimidated" everything's allright? Hell no it's not! There are two men military outfit and one is holding a nightstick at the doors of a polling place. That's not defendable. And don't get me wrong : fox sprays bs everytime they open their mouths, i do agree with that completely. But they didn't put those 2 men in front of that door and they didn't give 'em the nightstick. Keeping it real is the only way against Faux
RaychSeldon33 1 year ago
@RaychSeldon33 Voter intimidation is of course a serious issue. I'm keeping it real by suggesting that other members here do a little side research and not get twisted out of shape simply from what Fox is feeding the populace. As usual they report only the part of the story that suits their agenda. There is no evidence of foul play by the Obama admin. In fact the charges were dropped before Obama took office by a member of the Bush DOJ.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses We obviously agree. Of course those 2 men didn't threaten anyone and there was not a foul play from the Obama administration as Fox "journalists" tend to suggest... My point is just to say : "ok, those Fox asses are morons. But why going to a polling station with a nightstick?"
RaychSeldon33 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn Shabbazz (the man with the nightstick) has been given an injuction that bars him from going to any polling place for several years. Charges were dropped for the other defendants due to lack of evidence justifying their prosecution.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses @kaysandesses the doj lawyer for the case won't let it go, is that the justification for re-opening the case? there were 2 men outside the polling place in philly, so why wasn't the other man charged? and as far as voters not reporting that they didn't vote--why do you think they call it intimidation? of course they aren't going to say anything! plenty of eyewitnesses saw people walk away from the poll that day w/o voting, if they came back later to vote is a moot point.
junkforkaryn 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn Follow the link above and gain some facts about the case. You're being suckered in by the very phenomenon being discussed in this video.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses wanting the facts of a case is not being suckered. i'm a progressive liberal that is seriously questioning why the liberal media is focusing on fox rather than the issues of the case. 2 men in front of a polling place wearing self-styled uniforms and carrying nightsticks talking crazy to voters is a real concern for me. why isn't it a concern for you?
junkforkaryn 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn It was a concern for me so I did some research and I'm only suggesting you do the same, and the link above in the video description is a good place to start.
This video is just one example that MM is using to demonstrate how Fox interjects propaganda into the rest of mainstream media. Why isn't that a concern for you? Fox's successful methods us way fucking more dangerous than one black dude waving a night stick at one polling place in a nearly all black precinct.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses my research has been on the new black panthers--their main focus is on intimidating black people! if white militia men had been intimidating white voters at a white polling place, then that would be ok with you? who is casting a blind eye here? have you researched the new black panther party? fox is bullshit, so for me that bit of info is old news. check out the nat. geo. documentary on this new panther party, and then let me know how comfy you feel about them.
junkforkaryn 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn I'm not defending the NBPP, in fact the original Black Panthers decry their motives and methods. The problem with this whole situation that you seem to ignore is that Fox is basically saying this is a cover-up by the Obama Administration when the charges were dropped BEFORE Obama took office. The only "punishment" meted out against Shabbaz was by the Obama DOJ who filed for and won the injuction against him which bars him from protesting outside polling places for several years.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn No one got intimidated. There was no evidence that anyone was intimidated. This is why the case was dropped. It had nothing to do with race. The case was cut and dry. Fox News and Christopher Adams, are trying to inject race into it. Take a look into Adams' background and you'll see why he's politically motivated to bringing scandal into Obama's DOJ where there is none. He was part of the politicization of Bush's DOJ.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 my understanding is that eric holder is reexamining the case. does that mean that the doj can be intimidated by fox and their political operatives? i have read that democratic activists were also witnesses to this incident and i've seen the uncut unedited video of the incident in question. the men were clearly afoul of the law just by standing outside shouting egregious crap at people trying to do their civic duty.
junkforkaryn 1 year ago
@junkforkaryn Yes. They can, and it's been shown time and again, beginning with the abandonment of the highly popular public option. There was nothing untoward by what they were doing. It's called freedom of speech. This isn't "intimidation at the polls" as has been historically known. There were no firehoses, no polling taxes. In fact, this case shouldn't have made it to the supreme court! Anyone who would've been "intimidated" were already afraid of black men and should seek professional help.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 Best comment of the day.
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@JohnnyBB82 It is against the law to stand outside polling areas telling people who to vote for with billyclubs, whether or not anyone was actually intimidated? And have you seen the video of this same man telling the brothers to kill crackers and to kill cracker babies? If this was a white man saying to kill black people and their babies all hell would break lose and that would be covered by the lame stream media right? What a sickening mess. No more honesty and integrity left.
gategrl 1 year ago
@gategrl I've yet to see video of these men telling people who to vote for. There is no video except the man asking those two what they were doing. One of the men apparently lived in the building! Where were any laws violated? I know, there's video immediately following showing a Fox News "reporter" asking the Republican pollster who called the cops questions, but there is no video of "intimidation" of any kind. The only people who would be intimidated were racist to begin with.
JohnnyBB82 1 year ago
damn, laura ingraham is turning into one of those closed twatted alum gobbling tight assed Fox news trollettes -- she used to be HOT, but now she looks like an old dowager blonde-to-cover-the-gray lying sacks of poop who propagandize to their feuhrer right wing dullards and the GOP on a daily basis.... yuck..
bbbbmer 1 year ago
Sadly, I doubt MMfA will be able to really stop this. Even though it was the Bush DOJ that decided not to press criminal charges, even though the Obama DOJ has obtained judgement against one of the Black Panthers. None of those measly facts matters to Fox. And people do believe this. It's all part of the Tea Party meme that Obama is going to kill white people. And I know people who think it will soon be illegal for white people to breed.
Dacadvid 1 year ago
Media Matters Are you fucking kidding me... You spend way too much time and effort on Fox News.
xep5k 1 year ago
@xep5k That's because Fox News spends way too much time and effort lying to people, promoting disinformation, engaging in partisan politics, and fear mongering.
underpantssquirrel 1 year ago
@xep5k If all MMfA covered was Fox Noise, you'd have a hint of a point. But the fact is that MM covers an extensive range of conservative media too. From the Weekly Standard, RedState, etc. It's a veritable potpourri of misinformation.
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
Are those of you who accuse Fox News as being Biased the same who watch MSNBC and defend their reporting expertise, Bunch of Hypocrites
Frodo1962 1 year ago
@Frodo1962 MSNBC's tagline is 'the place for politics', while fox breaks their jaws insisting they're 'fair and balanced'. If fox would stop pretending and simply admit to being conservative the accusations of bias wouldn't be so intense (The accusations of being horrifically uninformed, on the other hand). Plus MSNBC uses a lot of its night time and weekend schedule to show Dateline, Lockup, etc. where fox is a 24/7 misinformation station.
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@PoliticalJunkie I watch both, and have the common sense to know when they're both being biased, ill be the first one to say Beck can be a wingnut, but to have credibility each and everyone of us must have a balance,
If you want to critique Fox for overplaying the NBPP, then you have to use the same critique against MSNBC for not reporting on it at all
Frodo1962 1 year ago
@Frodo1962 It's like you're illiterate.
The issue isn't that they cover the NBPP case, that's not relevant to what I was saying. It's the broader picture; MSNBC knows it is biased, and doesn't pretend otherwise. fox pretends it is unbiased, and doesn't care when its proven to have an agenda.
'MSNBC for not reporting on it at all'
"At all"? Really?
msnbc*msn*com/id/38046923/
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@PoliticalJunkie You mean the AP story they ran, buried deep within its political slanted vault, in response to your illiterate comment, it only proves that you have no desire for information exchange, and will resort to ignorance before viable dialect if your not careful ill start using words from "mattghtpa" dictionary
and if that doesn't work I shall fart in your general direction
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PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@Frodo1962 @Frodo1962 Your comments are the wet sloppy sharts on the asscrack of dialogue.
If MSNBC didn't "report[...] on it at all" (your words, remember), they wouldn't have even bothered with the AP story which could be found on their site via a two-second Google search.
The illiterate comment was followed by a detailed critique of the spittle you spewed (that did not address my central point which you have yet to actually talk about).
PolitikalJunkie 1 year ago
@PolitikalJunkie First off, Lay off the Junk, your attempt to sound intelligent has vanished with your retort,
By reposting another link shows just how ignorant you are, and please, you use the definition of illiterate to define my posts, yet you are the poster child for the exact definition you use
If your trying to insult me, Ignorant would have been a better choice of words,
unfortunately for you, you wear that crown
Frodo1962 1 year ago 4
@Frodo1962 "If your trying to insult me, Ignorant would have been a better choice of words,"
"Your".... ha ha ha
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@Frodo1962 I watch both too and I agree with you. What has happened to integrity, truthfulness and honesty?
gategrl 1 year ago
@Frodo1962 MSNBC has a bias but fox lies, theres a difference.
the07tour 1 year ago