Katherine Howard's Downfall and Execution [The Tudors s04 e05]

[JessicaLouiseMusic]

I'm not condoling Henry's actions. I love both Katherine Howard and Anne Boleyn. But you've got to put your mind into the period. If a woman committed adultery, it was concidered one of the worst crimes a woman could do and execution was a valid punishment! Therefore, the choices Henry made were the right choices because of the TIME that he lived in.

I believe Anne was innocent and Katherine was just so young and they didn't deserve it, but this is today's perspective vs. the past.

[PaperLove25]

Why all the queens get executions because of King Henry?

[AnaCristinaHitrof]

King Henry = disgusting bastard. 

[PoisonMarigold]

@Katykool1265 Lady Rochford is first to be executed, she helped Katherine have the affair and also gave evidence for Anne Boleyn to be executed years before. Lady Rochford acted mad so she wouldn't be executed but henry changed the law...although she definitely wasn't right in the head from the start. The girl who cried is Joan Bulmer, one of her ladies-in-waiting and a childhood friend of hers. She might feel guilty because she also helped her have the affair.

[penguineatswalrus]

King Henry= Bastard

[Katykool1265]

Oh and who's the lady who cries when she's looking at cathy howard?

[JessicaLouiseMusic]

@Katykool1265 Joan Bulmer, her best friend from childhood.

[Katykool1265]

wait wait wait who's the lady who gets executed first? I dont remember any lady getting executed on the execution of Catherine howard?

[JessicaLouiseMusic]

@Katykool1265 And Lady Rochford. She helped Katherine and Thomas with their affair, organised the meetings etc.

[MrsLittleMaya]

This whole seen is just not accurate.. That's a pitty.

[MrsLittleMaya]

For as far as I know, she is executed on Tower Green, like Anne Boleyn. Not in public!

[nanukaable]

poor Katherine she was very young

[Goku131]

I Agree With you on that She was a Child

[roglowe]

Don't mess with big H

[kbrookep11]

"I die a Queen,but I would rather die the wife of Colepepper." I just love that quote:')

[23681lucky]

Lady Rochford was actually executed first and she did not know that they were going to execute her until they dragged her to the scaffold. And she was considered to be mad

[KonanAkatsuki12]

@23681lucky why was she executed?

[23681lucky]

@KonanAkatsuki12 Because she helped set up the rendevouz between katherine and culpepper

[ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ]

Poor Catherine she didn't politicise she was very naive and young, Henry was very cruel to Catherine Howard and Anne Boleyn. People tell that her ghost goes in Hempton Court still

I'm sorry for possible errors I don't speak English very well

[123cdecde]

R.I.P Catherine howard and anne boleyn!!!

[1tratchford]

Thats 1 fucked up job. Collecting the heads!!

[Lonsoleil]

That's messed up how Henry VIII had her put to death. She was just a foolish little teenager, for cryin' out loud!

Besides, Henry VIII was a really fat and disgusting middle-aged man with a stinky leg at the time he married Katherine Howard. What the hell made him think she would ever really be attracted to him?

[skg069]

I suppose it's artistic license but Katherine actually went first - like everything else in Tudor England, executions were conducted by precedence. A Queen, even a disgraced one, had precedence over her lady in waiting.

[Jericholic129]

i'm just sad henry howard died :(

[ChicBookFiend]

These scenes are so so haunting... I don't know how they walked to that chopping block at all. They would have had to drag me there, with me kicking and screaming.

[SleepWhenIamDead]

....Queen Catherine Howard had the best death.....practising the night before and stating the truth at the block....as odd as it sounds she found the integrity she lacked in life at the very end....she was manipulated by some evil people.....

[garbagedisposal764]

who spilled some mellow yellow on the floor by katherine? haha!

[jazzgirl15]

katherine actually told the king she would pee herself first

[Raemoth75]

Lady Rochford was executed after Queen Catherine and she didn't wet herself she died with more dignity than she lived.

[ColinBurnside]

Katherine Howard was a victim first born a bastard, then taken advantage of when just a child, she thought her only use was to please men, Henry was so much older than her no wonder she fell for Culpeper.anon

[Vitaluv]

@ColinBurnside a twit but seriously liked her better than anne because she truly was someone who was used by her family and didn't really know what the hell was going on. At least as far as the series goes. Now in real life, it is what is. A trick knows when to put the cards down. She should have known better to do that considering her cousin's fate

[Shyneecie]

bloody hell lady rochford had a tough life as portrayed in the tudors seasons. First she married a man she didnt love, then became an outcast then a lady in waiting to a whore, then became basically insane and got her head cut off. Poor poor lass. but of course, history may say different. I dont like Katherine Howard, she was a whore and only married henry for power and slept with however she felt was right, she could have had a little more respect for the country she was half in charge of

[Lozzy54]

@Shyneecie Oh, and I guess you wouldn't have cheated on a man thirty years older than you, who had a dirty, stinky ulcer on his leg, when you had the affection of a man your age? She was seventeen, for god's sake. It wasn't HER who wanted the power, she was a pawn of her family. They couldn't have cared less about her when she had her downfall.

[Shyneecie]

@Lozzy54 she didnt have to bloody marry him though

[Lozzy54]

@Shyneecie Yes, but her family FORCED her to. She was too timid to refuse the King as well. Henry pursued HER, not the other way round. I suppose at seventeen YOU wouldn't want to live the highlife, getting everything you wanted, when you wanted?! Being rich, and given jewels?!

[ssp1070]

@Lozzy54....I wouldn't have cheated on a KING! I'm sure that she grew up hearing stories about her cousin. It's not like Anne Boleyn was the first Howard to have fallen out of favor in such a way. If Katherine had enough sense to be wary of her secrets then she had enough sense to understand the concept of risk but she didn't choose correctly. She was pushed into it, yes - but, every choice after was her own. She died b/c she was stupid. Should've just married the King and played her role.

[NobodyTossesADwarf91]

If Katherine was a "common harlott" what does that make Henry?

And anyone else notice Runcorn?

[Joe143cool]

cullpepper got off lightly... sort of lol

[Sarah39968]

The Tudors, like all dramatisations of the fascinating Tudors, take outrageous liberties with historical fact. But I must have seen every single one of them and this modern series The Tudors is in my opinion one of the best ever made. So I forgive them for telling the occasional fib...!

[MarinaMaxwellYuy]

I just love " I die a Queen but i would rather die the wife of Culppeper!" <3

[femkeanders]

why doesn't catherine go first? Its weird that she has to lay her head on a already bloody woudblok?

[MarinaMaxwellYuy]

@femkeanders Maybe they wanted to show her as a courageous woman who remained quite calm, even with Death so close to her.

[i2Bwitchy]

This wasn't an accurate depiction of Katherine Howard's real execution - first off, she didn't pee herself at all. Second off, she never 'watched' Lady Rochford's execution (she was executed before her lady.) Third, Lady Rochford admitted that she had lied about her husband and Anne Boleyn before her execution, which they didn't even show. 

[EmilyCharlotteMarron]

3:42 The man on middle-left looks like James McAvoy

[cheluzal]

Repusled or not, I'm not so sure I would openly have relations with another while married to Henry.

[littlebluebox1]

the man at 3:09....wasn't he in the latest harry potter film???

[iluvwinterweather]

@littlebluebox1 Yes, he portrayed Albert Runcorn in the Harry Potter film.

[1981Galadriel]

Katherine and Culpepper were like a real life Romeo and Juliet. It's one of the saddest love stories in history IMO. It beautifully acted on "The tudors". All of the wives' portrayers were very good at their parts, but I think Tamzin was the one who nailed it best!

[21karo12]

i was just thinking that when anne boleyn got executed, she still got the best person (what ever they are called, im not sure) to do it, a french man nad she got to make this long speach about how she wishes the king well, and this one doesnt get to speak much and shes been executed after another one with an axe...

even when henry didnt love anne anymore and thought she was a witch, he still gave her a descent execution.

[DarlingNikki2]

@21karo12 Yes, Anne's executioner was supposedly one of the best in Europe and she was killed with a single swift stroke of a finely sharpened sword. Poor Katherine got whacked with an axe, a really bad way to go (although she could've been hung, drawn and quartered I suppose)...

[henrysinaga]

Why was her urine so yellow???

[squirebuffy]

this is sick

[LunaHanayuki08]

That must have been the hardest thing to do, laying your head on the block, feeling the blade of the ax on your neck.. *shudders*

[LeN0Re18]

at that stage there were people that if it deserved to be on the scaffold

[LunaHanayuki08]

@LeN0Re18 Oh, Edward and Thomas Seymour would follow suit in a few years. Edward by his own nephew, and Thomas for treason for trying to put Elizabeth on the throne while her brother was still king.

[iluvwinterweather]

@LunaHanayuki08 It gives me a little bit of a chill to think that those two are watching Lady Rochford and Kathryn die, and yet they will soon have to place their heads on the block.

[LunaHanayuki08]

@iluvwinterweather I know right. Eerie foreshadowing. 

[TheLDG1981]

One of the most beautifully filmed scenes I've seen from a television series in a long time. Excellent!

[esrapk]

made me cry

[jen2girl]

The screen of Catherine Howard when she herself. Scared, proud and she says some beautifull words. I wouldnt chainge any.

[SummerLovinOX]

Katherine Howard was found a prosetute before she wed Henry the eighth however he didnt know that and she cheated on the king of england. She didnt have a chance to survive. Unlike the other queens she didnt know how to survive in the life of court and keeping a king. She was doomed since henry first saw her and wedded her

[percabeth1990]

Poor Catherine Howard. She doesn't deserve to die... she was a child...

[william1Arma]

with "friends" like Kitty's who needs enemies? :P

[kennedy2241]

I love the story between her and Culpepper.... I thought this was a great ending to part on the show....

[ChicBookFiend]

We all know Henry VIII was obese during this time, but what was the point of putting Rhys in a fat suit?

Katherine didn't deserve to die. She was young, no doubt a romantic, and was not happy being married to a man who could have been her grandfather. Any girl in her position would've done the same thing.

[tropicsgoddess]

@ChicBookFiend True, but what she did was considered high treason at the time since she was his wife and Queen.

[AemiliaPaulla]

@ChicBookFiend Not girls who kept their heads. Life isn't always puppies and roses. Katherine paid the price for a crime whose consequences she accepted implicitly once she began to cuckold Henry. Better to live unhappy than to die from pleasure, no?

[zrtproductions]

@AemiliaPaulla I would not agree with that statement at all. I'd rather die having lived an amzing, passion filled thing, than live forever never enjoying myself.

[TraciPeteyforlife]

@AemiliaPaulla she paid for things that were not with in her control. her parents were poor and kept shuttling her around. not a one of the people who took her in. gave her any kind of training for a young woman of her station. her father lamented that his blood was his curse. for if it had been common he could have at least earned a lving for his family. She was also molested/raped by her music teacher.

[Rosegarden1991]

Okay first of all, I know for a FACT that Henry VIII was not that young and not that skinny at the time of Katherine Howard's death. He was 50 and over 300 pounds. And from what I've read, he never saw her before she died.

[chloecherry26]

@Rosegarden1991 If you ever vist hampton court their is a plaque up saying about how katherine howard ran down the hall to henry to the chapel to see and to ask for forgiveness from , him the myth is that sometimes late at night you can still hear her crying down the halls :)

[madame360]

I lke this video I have some sympathy for her because she was nieve, and was used by men all her short life. the video is great. but the show dosen't do her justice. Hirst doesn't like KH & you here it when he talks about her, so I think its unfair for them to show Tom. C as a jerk when in reality he was sweet, and the affair only based on sex.And her & jane didn't die on the same day. But you did a great job 10 out of 10! Amazing!!

[EnglishRose719]

I actually hated Charles here, although I cannot stand Catherine, he and Seymour were the ones who encouraged her to come onto the king "like a common harlot"

[chocolatefountain95]

You know on the last episode, maybe Katy Howard's ghost should have come back as well

[BoundlessFreedom]

Same words like Anne Boleyn: I have come here to die.

[bulked]

@BoundlessFreedom that was the common phrase that all people said before excecution-well, mostly

[MsEnglishtea]

she was a young girl in love...and naive

[CutieMissJoker]

I think I'd wee myself if it were me too.

[deloufu]

I have a question here why didn't you add the tower bit when she saw both Francis & Thomas heads on poles?

[xxxpoeticjusticexxx]

@deloufu I actually had more scenes involved (including the tower), but I had to cut of some scenes, because it would have been to long and rendering would have taken years^^

[TheIrishEnigma]

I would have demanded they wipe that stand clean before doing me.

[Jess140594]

she used to be the paramedic in casualty (jane boleyn) :)

[CUPCAKESRRRz1]

thats sad

[Eadeeva]

I love her when she says: life is very beautiful just moments before die.

[Jess140594]

oh blesss her she weed herself. what she did was dangerous and silly but she was just a young girl she shouldn't have had her life taken from her so soon.

[MJacksonGirl25]

why was Lady Rochford executed ? for assisting Katherine in her affair ???

[Jess140594]

@MJacksonGirl25 yes. her uncle the duke had a plot against her the whole time and was bribing her to tell him about and make kathreine conceive a child by Thomas Culpepper. She evntually went mad and was executed AFTER katherine was.

[UsagiDreams]

@MJacksonGirl25 Yes, I think that was the reason. Also, I think there was a bit of revenge in having her executed since she was the prime witness that had Anne and George Boleyn executed.

[Jamestopboy]

@MJacksonGirl25 Yes, and from keeping the Queen's sexual affairs before, and during marriage, from the King, and probably, because her surname, is, Boleyn, through marriage, despite being related to Henry VIII. She still lost her head.

[hellsangelMaki]

..and again .. why the execution of Anne Boleyn was much more "solemn" and "human" while kitty was treated as "barbaric"? both queens and both were accused of similar crimes (adultery) ... I do not understand: (

[hellsangelMaki]

But when Kitty sees that Jane died, the yellow liquid which can be seen at her feet is pee? O_O ps. Forgive my English, I'm Italian XD

[dolcepallalpiede93]

@hellsangelMaki si si è esattamente quello... che schifo ... che brutta scena... almeno anna bolena è morta con onore....

[hellsangelMaki]

@dolcepallalpiede93 si che poi nn capisco xkè, pur essendo accusate degli stessi reati, anna ha avuto molto più riguardo e rispetto nella prigionia, nel trattamento e nell'esecuzione rispetto a katherine...

[dolcepallalpiede93]

@hellsangelMaki forse perchè nn si è mai dimostrato effettivamente che anna lo avesse tradito... ci sono state solo accuse che poi sono state dimostrare a forza solo perchè enrico si era stufato di lei...e cosa nn meno inportante nn era ancora riuscita a dargli quel benedetto figlio maschio!

[hellsangelMaki]

@dolcepallalpiede93 certo poverine però.. tutte... possano riposare in pace..

[dolcepallalpiede93]

@hellsangelMaki infatti.....

[Cathiiliiciiouz]

@hellsangelMaki haha you are sooo sweet! And yes, it is! I don' like the scene it makes Kate a bit don't know how to say.. I try: Anne had a "fair" execution, it was honorable but Kittys?!?

[hellsangelMaki]

@Cathiiliiciiouz thanks ^ ^ anyway, I think it's really a wonderful series ... I follow the beginning: is creating dependency xD I know all the jokes in both English and Italian ... here in Italy the fourth season episodes are not there yet and I watch them subtitled ^^

[stillxxenchanted]

@halona69 hahaha its all good

[stillxxenchanted]

@AWickedMind I never said marrying a man of high rank was indecent, I said people who are decent would reject the chance to become queen. I apologize, I should've been more specific. I meant that a decent person wouldn't become queen simply for status, and that if you truly don't love the person then don't back away. I realize in Henry's time it was impossible to reject him but a marriage is a marriage, one should be faithful. And the fact that Henry was unfaithful doesn't justify her cheating.

[stillxxenchanted]

@halona69 I have my own opinions, as you have yours, but I'm not going to argue with someone who calls me insane, I'm trying to have a civilized conversation so please chill.

[halona69]

@stillxxenchanted huh sorry for over reacting, it just sounded crazy to me... i was sure you're some idiot with extreme opinion... sorry about that<:

[stillxxenchanted]

@QueenAnneBoleyn1536 i believe people who are decent would reject the chance to become queen. but she wasnt decent, she fell in love with the wrong person and cared only about her crown and her life. the fact that she was so young was no excuse, she was smart and stupid at the same time. she was also a whore and she did deserve to die.

[halona69]

@stillxxenchanted @stillxxenchanted

WHAT THE HELL are you insane???? just because she cheated, and not just cheated, she cheated some old nasty fat guy with someone young, so THATS WHY SHE DESERVES TO DIE?!?! in what sick world are you living??? and speaking of a whore... Henry was the whore. if cheating is a sentence to deth, than henry should be fucking dead 45468465465465 times.

LONG LIVE QUEEN KITTY!

[AWickedMind]

@stillxxenchanted- Cheating is a deep and dishonest betrayal, worthy of divorce, but the death penalty...? If you do truly believe that, what of Henry? Catherine cheated on ONE man with ONE man, whilst Henry cheated on multiple women with multiple women. If she deserved the sword, then surely he deserved torture and a flaming stake. Furthermore, why would chosing to marry a man of high rank make one "indecent"?

[Elisabetta611]

@stillxxenchanted

She was most certainly not a whore and did not deserve to die. Do you honestly think she could have rejected the king? GEEZ!

[stillxxenchanted]

@Elisabetta611 she did reject the king actually. the true history of it is that she was so repulsed by him that she never slept with him. She did have a choice, if she didn't want him then she shouldn't have gotten involved.

[Elisabetta611]

@stillxxenchanted

Where are you getting that from? None of the biographies I've read feature this...tale. Maybe because she did not have a choice at all? Just like Katherine Parr had no choice.

[stillxxenchanted]

@Elisabetta611 well then maybe you aren't looking hard enough, because everywhere that I have read states that she was so disgusted by his obesity and injury that she went looking elsewhere for men. And she was at court for over a year before they got together, she pursued a relationship with him because she wanted to be queen. Katherine Parr is a different story

[kasandra211]

y didn't Calpeper tearn burn Cathrines letter after reading ?!!!! It was such a dangerous thing to keep!!!was he stupid!!?

[Acinonyxjubatus7]

@kasandra211 Maybe he was in love after all.....

[brandie7654]

they said jane rochford became insane at that point

[GeneLovesClassic1980]

I'm not happy that they didn't elaborate on the relationship of Kitty and Elizabeth. It was her death that made Elizabeth swore never to get married.

[Cathiiliiciiouz]

@GeneLovesClassic1980 look the 6th episode, there elizabeth say that she never wants to get married

[GeneLovesClassic1980]

@Cathiiliiciiouz thanks. I've seen that episode.. still, I would prefer to more scenes abt their relationship.

[QueenAnneBoleyn1536]

I hate Henry....Tamzin made me become really interested in Katherine.... She is my second favorite queen along with COA!  Poor Girl! :(

[princesskyrie]

Ok, for the record, history shows Katherine being executed within the Tower of London, not on some public scaffold. She may have committed a crime, but she was still queen. I didn't appreciate them showing that she apparently peed herself, but I'm glad they showed her dying bravely, as opposed to other productions that have made her scream and cry. (I also didn't think the nudity was necessary, but I always have that criticism about the show)

[Acinonyxjubatus7]

@princesskyrie What if she peed herself..? It just showed that she was SCARED. She was just a naive young girl and had seen someone being decapitated in front of her... And knowing that the same thing would happen to her... Jesus, I would have peed myself!

[princesskyrie]

@Acinonyxjubatus7 It's just a thought that if I were directing the scene, I would have done it differently. I do get that she's scared out of her mind, but I think there are other ways of showing it. In fact, I prefer Anne Boleyn's bloodless execution from Season 2 to this one (or at least Jane Rochford's). Extremely evocative, but without being messy.

[melodykey]

@Acinonyxjubatus7 to be honest i would of done a little more than just peed my self, i would of been in a hell of a mess by the time they got me too that block, just thinking of people being beheaded scares the wits out of me! and to have to kneel down freely and let someone do that to you, whilst you were consious, im glad im alive now and not then!!

[Walkingb82]

Women's life at that time was dangerous, being King's Henry VIII's wife and trying to please him was almost impossible. Katherine was young, naive and was chosen by the King for superficial reasons. In my opinion she didn't deserve such a tragic end, even if she was guilty. I don't like her much and I prefer Anne Boleyn but this is just my personal taste.

[Asta3be6]

Does anyone know the who composed the music in the background? I mean the one played during the execution of culpepper as well as katherine howard's

[TwilightCharmedFaie]

@Asta3be6 Trevor Morris. The soundtrack will most likely come out next December.

[QueenAnneBoleynkatia]

LoveSoundtracksGirl hi um as i said she was definitily guiltier than anne who was after all innocent but unfairly executed.well i believe that despite the good things henry didi for england he was a murdered and i think that was definitily more clear when he executed anne.

[QueenAnneBoleynkatia]

@stillxxenchanted mm maybe at that time if you cheated your king it would lead to an execution but she was just a young naive girl .i mean for god's sake she was 17 and he was 50 or more..oh lady Rochford i think she deserved it in a way cause she was responsible as well as many others for queen anne's death but it is never right to kill a person ,you dont own his life after all.

[JuzTudor70AD]

As for the Katherine Howard segment, I'm not pleased that they didn't include Archbishop Cranmer cuz he's the one who sent Henry VIII the letter abt her infidelities. From my POV, Cranmer did it not only for the betterment of the Protestant faith but also to avenge Cromwell's death (which Henry VIII regretted) that the Howards were responsible for. Dunno why the writers chose the Seymours & Brandon instead...

[JuzTudor70AD]

Thankfully, letters from Spanish Ambassador Chapuys stated that there were no valid proofs, confessions and witnesses, thus, indicating that the Boleyns' incest & adultery were fake. Although Chapuys disliked Anne Boleyn for her role in Queen Katherine D'Aragon & Princess Mary's plight, at least he knew that the true villian was Henry VIII

[JuzTudor70AD]

It doesn't matter whether Jane admitted that she lied abt Anne/George's incest charge cuz she's already condemned to die. Plus, (based on the show) since she's gone mad, it's unlikely that any one would believe her words at that time.

[efelipe87]

i have so many issues with the way the execution scenes played out... no matter how beautifuly acted by Tamzin. I'm very disappointed by the way it was written, but it does make good tv. so many inconsistencies. In my opinion Lady rochford got what she deserved, although no one deserves to die.

[aneiasl]

i was hoping for the fable speech of Jane's speaking of how George and Anne were innocent ... ohh well

[brunolbt]

@aneiasl So was I!!

[princesskyrie]

@aneiasl I know, me too. I mean, the show has already played with other stories of the time, but this one would have been a nice touch, since we saw Jane willing to tell the investigators pretty much anything they wanted to know about the Boleyns.

[Xandria56]

Wonderful JOB!!!

as always!!!

[QueenAnneBoleynkatia]

henry was a monster why did he need to murder anne and catherine??he was a butcher i think he went mad !!thank you so much for uploading

[LoveSoundtracksGirl]

@QueenAnneBoleynkatia in a way i understand the Katherine execution... I mean she cheated on him, they had proof, i guess it was anger, i mean i would be furious too, but back then, that's happened when your crossed your king...

[stillxxenchanted]

@QueenAnneBoleynkatia I agree he shouldn't have executed Anne, but Katherine was a very stupid girl, she deserved it. Lady Rochford, however, didn't deserve it at all. She just wanted revenge for what happened to her Husband

[QueenAnneBoleyn1536]

@stillxxenchanted no she did not deserve to die.....she was just a girl....yes she was naive....she fell in love...no one would resist the chance to become queen..