Placido Domingo - Manon Lescaut - No, no pazzo son

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, e certo, hai ragione in questo, capisco un po di la tua lingua ma non troppo. Intento aprender escuchando opera, tengo ganas de hacer un viaje de placer a Italia, cuando este libre de ocupaciones. Admiro a la Italia, su cultura universal, su arte esplendido y tengo buenos amigos italianos aqui, aunque no tan mafiosos como tu, hahaha¡

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, 'ma el pubblico e cosi idiota...' esto es parte de la opinion que dice tu bella y vecchia damisella, entre otras lindezas a Domingo¡. Y tu dices que sois educados y no insultais? Ha¡ A otro perro con ese hueso¡ Tu y tus 'amigos del insulto' venis como 'moscas cojoneras' a los YT de Domingo a insultar y faltar el respeto. Lo tienes claro conmigo, 'caro amico' ¡

[bodiloto]

@millonety123 tu caro amico maleducato non conosci la lirica italiana!

La lingua ancora meno! Allora spiega mi maleducato da dove 'capisci' come canta Domingo ?!?!?

Aspetti di 'sentire' e vedere la reazione del pubblico?!?!?

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

'ma el pubblico e così idiota...' lo hai detto TU,non io!

Il mio popolo dice:

-La verità esce dalla bocca dei bambini!!!

Ciao bambino mio maleducato !

Non devi dimenticare mai,Tu fai parte da questo pubblico !

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, tu sei il re di tutti bugiardi¡ tu eres el verdadero fanatico¡..... Insidioso¡

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, comparar a Anna que¡? con Domingo es una estupidez¡ Si no lo entiendes...Por favor¡ A todos los que estan escuchando en YT, hay alguien que conozca a Anna que¡?, ...Signora¡ Per favore¡...deje ya de chochear¡ Esto es incredibile¡ Mammamia¡Que par de estupidos¡ O, mejor, necios¡

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, la Ninamicheltorena, una signora? Que derecho tiene ella para insultar a Domingo y al publico?Es otra maleducada mas, 'piensa el ladron que todos son de su condicion'(refran español). Nina y tu sois tal para cual. Masoquistas¡ No os gusta Domingo y lo escuchais en todos los sitios, hahaha¡

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, Nina solo dice insultos a Domingo y a la audiencia, lo mismo que tu: dos insultantes profesionales y maleducados. Annaloro no viene siquiera en la Wiki, sois ilusiones solamente, nostalgicos...Hahaha¡

[bodiloto]

@millonety123 Ti avevo detto che sei bugiardo ?

Questa Signora per me dice la VERITÀ !

IL TUO PROBLEMA È CHE SEI UN FANATICO SORDO,MALEDUCATO E CATTIVO !

E UN FATTO !

[bodiloto]

@millonety123 SEI TU L'ESPERTO DEI INSULTI !

La Signora @NinaMicheltorena ha detta semplicemente la sua opinione umile,niente di più !

ANTONIO ANNALORO = VERO TENORE

DOMINGO = BARITONO DI ZARZUELA

Mi dispiace un tenore chi non arriva di cantare uno si naturale e ancora meno uno do in modo coretto

NON E TENORE !

Il tuo Domingo tutta la sua vita cantava nella agonia (dal vivo era così) proprio come lo mostra questo video!

MALEDUCATO,FERMA TI !

TUTTI SONO NEMICI DI DOMINGO PER TE !

CURA TI !

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, eres una metralleta¡ Hahaha¡...No, no tengo el placer de conocer a Anna que?. Perdona¡

[bodiloto]

@millonety123 ascolta come muore negli spasimi vocali il tuo IDOLO !

Ascolta e TACI !

Questo non e canto,e LA SOFFERENZA VOCALE VERA!

QUESTO CHE DOMINGO CANTA NEGLI SPASIMI NON E UN LAVORO ARTISTICO !

E L'AGONIA !

ASCOLTA FANATICO !

[millonety123]

@Gabba02, estoy de acuerdo contigo al 100%, uno de sus mejores roles. Con una voz perfecta para des Grieux. Opinar lo contrario, sinceramente, no es serio¡. Ademas, si hay alguna duda que se lo pregunten a la Scotto o la Freni y argumenten con ellas, a ver que contestan.

[millonety123]

Yo tengo esta opera en dvd y es magnifica la actuacion de Domingo y toda la produccion. Pocos tenores pueden cantar en tantos roles y tan bien. Tanta 'propaganda anti-Domingo' es algo muy 'raro', vergonzoso, poco serio, y falso. Siempre cuentan casos particulares de un tenor con cerca de 4000¡ representaciones. Matas un gato y te llaman matagatos......

[bodiloto]

@millonety123 leggi che cosa dice la Signora @NinaMicheltorena !

Leggi e impara !

Per me questa Signora ha ragione 100% !

Giovane amico maleducato,apprendi di rispettare il Mondo della lirica !

[millonety123]

@bodiloto, que quieres decir? Annaloro mejor que Domingo¡?Vamos,hombre¡ Que has bebido?¡ Si no odias ni envidias a Placido, esto que es?Ahora va a ser que cualquiera es mejor que Domingo. Lo tuyo es de juzgado de guardia, o de siquiatrico. No paras de insultar, tio¡

[bodiloto]

@millonety123 non avevo letto il tuo commento!Ma tu sai chi era Antonio Annaloro? UN VERO TENORE !

Tu non fai la differenza tra un suono di professionista(quello di Annaloro) e un suono di debuttante(quello di Domingo)allora ti spiego caro maleducato!La voce di Annaloro non e fonogenica,questa voce sul disco non e bella ,ma dal vivo passa come un raggio di sole!Il suono che produce Annaloro e un suono del VERO TENORE CON ACUTI SPLENDIDI !

TENORE = VOCE DEI ACUTI !

BARITONO =VOCE SENZA ACUTI !

[bodiloto]

@millonety123 2 la bellezza di un tenore si può 'sentire' soltanto DAL VIVO !

TU PER ME NON CAPISCI NULLA DELLA LIRICA !

Domingo tutta la sua vita era limitato non dalla sua voce che non era amle,era limitato DALLA SUA TECNICA!

Domingo canta senza passaggio e la sua voce 'non gira' nel registro acuto!

Sai di che cosa sto parlando?

NON!

ALLORA LEGGI QUELLO CHE DICE LA SIGNORA @NinaMicheltorena E TACI !

Vai à scuola e impara !

[bodiloto]

Siamo nel 1978,già Domingo non ha più la voce,acuti ancora meno,grida al posto di cantare...

E questo si chiama arte?

Quale esempio sono questi gridi e urli per i giovani tenori?

Di Domingo parlano TUTTI!

Chi parla di Antonio Annaloro?

Quasi nessuno!

Negli ultimi anni tutti siamo diventati grandi "esteti",purtroppo la voce del tenore VERO non esiste più!

[NinaMicheltorena1]

@bodiloto Antonio Annaloro ???? Ho visto di persona Annaloro proprio in Manon Lescaut, era una forza della natura, senza alcuna difficoltà come sentiamo in questo video scandaloso, Annaloro teneva gli acuti mezz'ora senza mai stringere la gola, quì il Domingo, aiutato da tutti, dalla pubblicità, dalla Madonna, ma il pubblico è così idiota da non accorgersene? Obliavo, avrà pagato oltre 100 persone per applaudirlo e gli altri caproni seguono, W Annaloro, gigante!

[bodiloto]

@NinaMicheltorena1 sono d'accordissimo con lei! E finita l'epoca di Antonio Annaloro e i grandi Tenori della epoca gloriosa ITALIANA!

Io purtroppo non avevo la fortuna di sentire e vedere Annaloro di persona,ma dalle poche registrazioni su YT ho "sentito" una voce meravigliosa,e un Artista generoso!

Antonio Annaloro e stato per me un vero Tenore,e non venditore di "immagini" come era Domingo!

Grazie per il suo bellissimo commento e viva Antonio Annaloro,un vero Tenore con una voce Magnifica!

[sugarbist]

Domingo had to sing this role for the money, besides not hitting the b natural PROPPERLY the voice is all strangled.the vocal line is all shot up . So where is the musicianship that everyone talks about, the 65 likes must be relatives. He really should be  ashamed of himself ,over 130 different operas without a signature role. How about a standing ovation from the rubber neckers

[vivadomingo1]

@sugarbist - If you don't like Domingo then don't listen to him.

[sugarbist]

@vivadomingo1 I do listen to almost every tenor& when i saw your comment saying (i respect your opinion) i thought i might comment , when i see wonderful things written about certain singers& then i listen to them , it kind of bothers me that im not close to sharing their views, So thats why i listen & make comments & hear opinions back that might make me understand what someone else is hearing,Im not a Tucker fan,but i learned to appreciate him more by listening to some wonderful recordings ,

[premiereopera1]

I just watched this again, and it is bad. The B is a very quick, hoarse sound, isn't it? Send me the link to the Verona, please.

[vivadomingo1]

@premiereopera1

I agree that this one is not good. The Verona one is already up on youtube..check out my page. I really respect your opinion and would be interested in what you think. Thanks much!

[sugarbist]

@vivadomingo1 If you would like to hear an interesting tenor try vasco campagnano. if you want to get shook up listen to Del Monaco lauri volpi Gigli,.If you need to defend someone listen to Domingo . enjoy

[vivadomingo1]

@sugarbist - you did not mention Jussi Bjoerling or Bergonzi or Corelli who are probably my favorite tenors other than Domingo.

[sugarbist]

@vivadomingo1 i was referring you to some tenors that sang non pazzo son. Bjorling has a beautiful voice but does not represent the aria well. i was not looking for Bergonzi until you just mentioned him & i could not find the aria , Corelli is 1 of my favorites but he also never recorded the aria or did the opera. i think he would have been fantastic.

[antoheionn]

@sugarbist You are so right about Corelli!!

[sugarbist]

@antoheionn Thanks Enjoy . I thought Corelli was GREAT

[premiereopera1]

this is beyond bad, this is awful, and it happened every time he tried to sing this role.

[zomba1965]

AS great as Domingo is, I think he is flawed in this particular performance. His voice almost cracked at one point but he pulled himself out of it.....

[sugarbist]

@zomba1965 I dont understand why hes great.He is a lyric spinto that always sings fortissimoand is not audible in the theatre. Domingo never sings mezza voce,diminuendo or filatura & has problems with his high notes. He has a fine quality of voice& has sung over 130 different operas without having a signature role. Most of the spinto roles are too large for his voice. The more dramatic roles like Forza orOtello are way over the top for him.But Enjoy

[Bjoerrelli]

@sugarbist At last the truth is told! Thank you!

[sugarbist]

@Bjoerrelli Your Welcome.

[roselandalvin]

I don't know why the Tucker comparison is coming up here  but of course they are 2 different voices Placido was always on the edge when he sang any aria calling for more lyrical sound : thus he often pushed the voice to the point of unpleasantness-Tucker had more authority throughout a larger range of arias and roles- His voice never seemed to tire and it would stay similar in sound from bottom to top -Tucker was the greater vocal artist IMO

[mjpnt]

Brilhante!

Sublime!

[gaytenor]

Domingo simply does not have a decent top B to his name. I have never heard him do this aria in an even adequate manner. Anyone with a name different than Domingo who did horrible performance would probably be booed and deserve it totally. A great musician yes, a great tenor not really, not even by the dismal standards of today. Also, Placido do we blame you for Cura.

[sidelis]

Grande, raffinato e intelligente interprete, musicale e drammatico. Mai innamorato di sé stesso, esercita il suo carisma sempre al serviizo del personaggio e dell'opera. L'emissione, tuttavia, lascia a desiderare e gli acuti destano pesanti perplessità: indietro e afoni sempre.

[bodiloto]

@sidelis la rispetto ma come e possibile d'essere cito raffinato e intelligente interprete,musicale e drammatico quando Domingo era senza acuti e sempre al limite,tutta la sua vita cantava senza mezza voce e senza una vera tecnica italiana vocale,la prego lei e una persona intelligente spiegate mi per favore ! Con rispetto ,Nicola.

[sidelis]

@bodiloto Gentilissimo, mi sembra di convenire con Lei in relazione all'emissione ed alla tecnica. Papà diceva di Domingo che possedeva una gola di ferro e non voleva certo esprimere un complimento! Sul piano della tecnica, dunque, Domingo lascia CERTAMENTE a desiderare. Tuttavia possiede grande musicalità, gusto, carisma e, soprattutto, non è mai innamorato di sé stesso. La sua interpretazione è sfaccettata.

[sidelis]

@bodiloto Domingo è sempre alla ricerca, con apprezzabile sincerità, dell'idea musicale del personaggio e non confonde l'interpretazione col continuo lamento o furia piuttosto che con la perpetua imbronciatura. Questo è buono. Non merita la carriera che ha fatto perché non ha tecnica? Sono d'accordo, ma come lui tanti altri!

[sidelis]

@bodiloto Le carriere sono una cosa e la raffinatezza tecnica un'altra. Una volta si diceva che bisognava saper cantare i centri per cantare, ma che la carriera si faceva con gli acuti. Una volta, appunto. Spero di averle chiarito il mio modesto pensiero. Sempre rispettosamente. Massimo.

[bodiloto]

@sidelis Caro Massimo lei e generoso e grande proprio come suo padre ,da 52 anni vado nel teatro,l'anno scorso ho visto169 recite dal vivo,purtroppo tenori come suo padre non esistono piu,una triste realta...L'ultimi veri tenori per me erano Corelli, Aragall,Bonisolli,Kraus,Nikolo­v e Giacomini... ancora una volta voglio dire che suo papa e stato un Grande per me,uno vero tenore! Con molta stima e rispetto,Nicola.

[viverito]

what a big impressive waistline !!!!!

[operabeauty]

This is awful. The strain throughout, and the totally hoarse, touched high B is unacceptable, unless your name is Domingo.

[roundrocktx]

@operabeauty I totally agree with you!!

[castorp278]

This is bad.

[kgarmaker123]

I have heard Tucker three times live and all three times, he had a pianissimo and a good one! And far better high notes than this jerk Domingo.

[Bjoerrelli]

search for: G.Puccini - MANON LESCAUT and you will here someone sing this alot better than Mr Domingo

[federic017]

altro che un po' forzato.....

[maxitenori]

Try searching for Peter Lindroos on youtube singing this aria. He also is magnificent! You'll love him.

[gaytenor]

The devil in me wants to say bravo Tucker!!!! This performance sucks!!! Have you ever wondered where the often great sounding top notes on CDs come from? Any note above a b flat can be am ordeal for Domingo. He's the modern version of Fernando DeLucia the undisputed King of downward transposition. Give him his due, however, his performance in Adriana this year was wonderful even with the downward transpositions.

[marcobenve]

qui Domingo risulta un pò affaticato dall'impervia romanza,il si naturale è appena toccato,molto forzato,non messo in atto

[corellilover]

yes but Domingo´s high B was terrible here, he wasn´t able to hold it not for a second.You could never be relaxed with Domingo singing a high note.he was always about cracking.

[Operafiend22]

I admit, Tucker wasn't the greatest actor, but vocally speaking Domingo doesn't come close. Tucker had the better instrument and technique.

[operabeauty]

I can't believe anyone gave him a five star rating in this dreadful performance. Every note from F and up is stained and hoarse. Terrible. I rate his less than 1.

[okaukuejo]

operabeauty: unlike all the others I do agree with you. It really doesn`t sound very nice. And franktenor: No, people don`t have to get tired. Where I live we have a totally unknown tenor doing De Grieux at the moment, and he is singing with a lovely, clear and healthy voice up to the end.

[GermanOperaSinger]

I agree with both of you. Domingo is overpushing his voice throughout the entire performance which is why he is hoarse and tired at the end. With a solid technique one will have more than enough stamina to last throughout the entire performance without any major problems. And this is only the end of Act III. Gigli and Tucker never had any problems singing this excerpt outstandingly, there is no excuse for Domingo's poor performance here.

[roselandalvin]

@GermanOperaSinger tucker could sing all night - I saw him live and you came away with that feeling - domingo often tends to force his sound and it can become unpleasant - Most of the Puccini stuff he just can't adequately  make sound pleasant - Certainly doesn't suit him like it did Luciano

[JockamoGoon]

unfortunately i agree. listen to volpi sing it. it has all the drama without the risk. domingo has had quite a career getting away with doing this to the music. if anything, i applaud him for that. he's an amazing musician and is incredible onstage. his voice is outstanding. he just lacks finesse finesse finesse, a key element to singing though these roles

[Agorante]

How can it be that all these people in their thirties and forties have authoritative opinions on Bjoerling and Tucker? I too can listen to records but you have to be in your mid sixries now to have heard them live. I know a guy who sang with both of them. He's 81.

Domingo isn't up to par in this recording. I guess he hasn't recorded enough for you to find a more representative clip?

[SheHadManHands]

These young people know this because Tucker sounds better on live recordings than Domingo does on studio ones! When I was young I could have seen Callas, Tucker, Merrill, Peerce, Warren, Bjorling and countless others considered the best of all time as my parents were regular goers but I wasn't much into opera in those days. God how I regret it today. Instead I had the pleasure of seeing Pavarotti and Domingo in a couple of shitty productions in the 70s & 80s and never again attended an opera.

[GermanOperaSinger]

Hmm, it was a decent performance, but not a patch on Richard Tucker's ass.

[MarquisDePosa53]

Alas, imagine for a moment, Corelli singing this role, he never did, studied it, practiced it, the Met wanted him to do it. Like so many others, he feared it. One has to wonder why when you consider his vast accomplishments in other spinto roles

[LouisMenchise]

I truly felt sorry for Corelli. He worked very hard on his voice. His voice collapsed at one point, only to return as good as before. A heavy dramatic tenor with a great high B and C. Alas, he was only truly great for a few years and he always had stagefright.

[sugarbist]

@MarquisDePosa53 Corelli was smart . He probably did not want to sound like Domingo did here. But in his prime Corelli could sing anything & SING IT beautifully. The same cannot be said for Domingo for he will sing anything at any time no matter what he sounds like.Corelli also FEARED every ROLE HE EVER SANG . THAT WAS JUST HIS NATURE. Enjoy

[MarquisDePosa53]

@sugarbist True enough, Corelli fear eveything, and I tend to agree, in his prime he could have handled this and been regarded as one of the best Des Grieux ever. Too bad he didn't

[ilbacioditosca]

do you know that the only singer with a big voice in the old met was Tucker, great resonance, Merrill, Bjoerling, had small voices.Bjoerling never had a voice for spinto roles even if he had the notes. You can say what you think about the notes but the change from the belcanto tenor to the verism tenor is worth in role like Puccini's De Griex.

You need a real actor not like the alcoholic, zombie afraid like Bjoerling. Tebaldi coudn't believe how dumb he was when singing boheme duets with her.

[ilbacioditosca]

You are right about Domingo's Voice, but there is a lesson about the operatic repertoire and vocal technique.

A baritonal voice have better F, G , Ab, A and the Bb are like a high C of a lyric tenor. Other aspect is the declamative strength of a middle strong voice. Domingo is so covincing that we may forget about his fixed and tense high notes. As a Opera singer I prefer Domingo than Gigli or Distefano.

[sugarbist]

@ilbacioditosca The lesson about operatic repertoire, is that Domingo just could be out of his element in spinto roles where his voice is usually strained.Even if he had hit the high note properly he is still straining his voice which upsets the fine quality that he does have. I did see him in i pagliacci about 13 years ago and he could not be heard. Enjoy

[Bjoerrelli]

The high B-natural was just touched and was simply not a strong note why can´t people except the fact that Domingo simply never was secured above A-natural and also never used any mezza voce in and above the passagio.

[caribolas]

god, such lean sound. His voice can't ring for shit, it barely ressonates. And this is regarded as the best we've got now. I pity this generation for such artistic poverty.

[ilbacioditosca]

You know that Domingo voice had a squillo even better than Bjoerling. People don't know that until his 40s he had a big sound that would equal Nilsson then he made it smaller to care for his voice. Some tenors may sound more legato and lyric in this part but he really go for verism that very few can copy.

[caribolas]

Bjorling had the sharpest formant ever until he bade farewell, don't utter such comparison. Domingo has to omit the puntatura in the end of the aria because he just can't make himself heard. That's ashaming. If you're not capable to sing what's written in the score and have to cut pieces off, please don't sing it.

[sugarbist]

@ilbacioditosca The truth is that this role & many other spinto roles are just too big for his voice,AIDA CARMEN CHENIER CAVALERIA,PAGLIACI TOSCA JUSTTO MENTION A FEWHe doeswellintraviata rigoletto where the tessitura is suited for him,ITS a shame that his fine quality of voice gets strangled & distorted when hesings the heavier roles.Hes really a lyric spinto tenor that only sings fortissimo& is not very audible live.for this role try DELMONACO GIGLI TUCKER or Campagnano whose not WELL KNOWN

[guy1938]

the best tenor in this role

[orfeo456]

Well the last high note wa snot held enough. He just touched it because he could not sustain it.

[kmillard]

To be sure, there WERE times he could run hot and cold and his high notes weren't always there. His 1980 Met performance with Scotto and his 1983 perf at the Royal Opera with Kiri Te Kanawa were better.

[mikesoaress13]

Simplesmene fantástico!

[ilbacioditosca]

Domingo is the best Artist that existed.Nobody else had all that qualities together.Vocally some singers may have better sound but Opera is not just the voice, you must have a body able to act, and an artist to understand Theater!!

He did and he is able to play piano and sing in concerts, and conduct.

[macattali]

Amazing amazing!!!  can anyone out there please please translate!!???

[kamikazekate]

Basically manon is being deported and he is saying no one will take her away from me! He is imploring that everyone listen to his sorrow that he is losing his very soul! He then asks can he go with them as anything even a cabin boy! And they let him! So you want to populate america they say! I notice vocally he is in the part but his acting is unusually not focusing on the soprano! Did anyone else notice? or am i being just too pedantic?

[kmillard]

Could just be the stage direction. For sure, there are plenty of lousy directors to go around.

[Cosmad85]

He is so GOOD!!!!!!!!!! I am impressed! Best wishes to all his fans!

[singinginachurch]

BEL CANTO!

[operabitch77]

dvorsky=trash

domingo=good

[Robertirobbie]

No bad, but Peter Dvorsky is little better :-)

[DragosCojocaru]

Yes he is.

[stevevandien]

Powerful, one of Domingo's best roles -- who is the Manon?

[Gabba02]

Sylvia Sass

[vocedivino]

Thank you for this one! Isn't he the GREATEST singer-actor in all history??? One can only sit, listen and cry with him ... he is so moving!!