@MrMezla All I have heard about Abdul Wahab is he wrote a book called Kitab Al Tawhhed going into detail about tawheed, tawheed is the dearest thing to Allah that is why he does not forgive shirk it goes against Tawheed, now from the small parts I have read from this book I have not seen any weird things but I know practically nothing more than that so how can i judge the man it may be Allah has guided or misguided him as with any sheikh i really dont know because I havn't read alot from him
@MrMezla Thats fine have a good sleep, but remember if every sheik dissapeared new ones would come up and the only good ones would be the ones who follow Quran and Sunnah, and dua to the prophet is Not from the Quran or Sunnah and even you cant argue that IF Mohammad sws did not do it it is not islam so really its that simple what you do is not islam because you are doing something the Prophet sws did not
@MrMezla I will show you how stupid this wahabi thing is I never follow any one sheik because he is human he makes mistakes, Mohammad sws is a prophet and he makes NO MISTAKE IN REVELATION yet I do not even call my self a Mohamadi so how could I ever call by self after a sheik when I do not even call myself after the prophet sws I am a MUSLIM (THE ONE WHO SUBMITS TO ALLAH SWT) and I follow the teachings of the messenger of Allah swt now do u see how stupid ''wahabbi'' crap is
@MrMezla Sunni forum is a known deviators website i have read all the proof ur sect quote it is absolutely stupid all the standing committee of scholars have rejected it as shirk Allah swt says 'O son of Adam if you return to me with the sins nearly as great as the Earth HAVING ASSOCIATED NO PARTNER TO ME I would forgive you..'' What do you think partner means you just ignore it, why risk being a kaffir for what If Allah swt doesn't want to help u can the Prophet make him? What is the use?
we dont worship The Prophet sallalhualayhiwasallam! u r blind, the proof is thre on the site, check it . look please answer this question now! Do u fllow ibn abdul wahhab
@MrMezla I HAVE ANSWERED 20 times I know you would love me to say I follow Abdul WAhab so you could call me a wahabi and feel better, I TOLD you I DO NOT FOLLOW ANY ONE SHEIK GIVE UP you will never hear me say I follow this sheik only or that sheik I have only read a few parts of what Abdul Wahab wrote so how can I say I follow him when I have never studied everything he has said, BUT I HAVE STUDIED EVERYTHING I CAN ABOUT WHAT MOHAMMAD SWS SAID AND I FOLLOW HIM MOHAMMAD SWS
@MrMezla Lol admit would you give your soul to shaytan if I ''admitted'' it I think you would because then you could give me a label, if Ibn abdul wahab or ibn taymiyya said anything against Allah, the messenger of Allah or the sahabba I would piss on him who is he to me to I have a loyalty to him my loyalty and oath is to Allah swt alone
@MrMezla Yes I know sheik Slaim amry I live in Dubai now but I am from UK he is in my friend majlis (big tent thing) all the time, he gave me a fatwa once about my work and i thought he was very good I have watched his lectures too any defiantly have not heard him say strange stuff
@lilblitz you can check in youtube if you type salem al amry ibn abdul wahhab or something like that, that he is explaining kitaab ut tawheed. nyway i will resume talking inshallah tomorrow
@MrMezla Ok so what! Whatever problem you have with Ibn Abdul Wahab doesnt mean everything he did is bad if he is talking about tawheed whats wrong with that it is the first pilar of islam so surely we NEED to understand it because without Tawheed our islam is invalid so don't you agree tawheed is very important??Find a bad thing in that book and I will never read it and be more against him that you
@lilblitz HAHAHA, ugly terrorist Muslim boy - I thought you were a baller in LA? I thought your sister is married to that fat d-list director? Um, interesting that you hang out with imams and Muslim fundamentalists who look like monkeys in your lizard-eating state of Araaaaaaaabia! Don't be mad b/c you haven't touched a pussy, your marriage is arranged to a sweaty beast, and you jerk off every night to girls who looks like me :) Anger truly is sad, my slave!
Do You Follow ibn Abdul Wahhab if yes Did he follow the Sayings of Ibn Taymiyyah if yes Did ibn Taymiyyah call some sahabis mushriks, IF YES WHY DO YOU FOLLOW THESE PEOPLE!
we believe allah subahanawatala told prophet muhamad everything so he does not have the same amount of knowledge as allah swt because nobody taught allah swt.
@MrMezla SHOW ME EVIDENCE IMAN HANIBALS SON DID THIS?? YOUR kaffir sheiks attribute false ahadith to people if he did this he would have been executed, people used to call on Ali in his time he said I will build a fire and all who say that I will throw them in it!!!
@TheLrmafia I explained it 10 times come on its very simple. Before Mohammad sws revelation what did we know? Nothing! if he hadn't have became Prophet by Allah's command it would still be unseen. These matters were: Predictions made in the time of Mohammad sws, signs of the end of days knowledge about the day of judment, junnah etc this was ALL UNSEEN so Allah swt revealed that unseen stuff to Prophet Mohammad sws this does not mean he knows ALL the unseen but what Allah chose to reveal to him
yes, we believe the Prophet sallalhualayhiwasallam had the knowledge what Allah bestowed. Where did we say he the Propphet sallalhualayhiwasallam has FULL?
when that ayat was revealed you have to understand why it was revealed for the kaafir. because in the time of the prophet people used to ask the prophet to show them miracles and then they would convert to islam and the prophet said no but when one of the companions asked the prophet revealed so this ayat was revealed for the kaafir
@TheLrmafia OTHER INTERPRETATIONS oh you know what sallam I let Allah swt deal with you every ayat says the same thing very clearly just translated to different words, WA LAWLA QUNTU ALAM AL GHAYB-IF I HAD KNOW THE UNSEEN(IF means what? you dont have! does a rich man say IF I WAS RICH) in the prophet sws last speach he said what?/ I do not know if I will be with you next year, BUT I THOUGHT HE KNOWS THE UNSEEN it is clear your idiocy does not fit
@TheLrmafia ANOTHER THING that is against TAWHEED something that without it there is no islam it is the frst pillar yet you guys dont learn it, part of tawdeed is to believe in ALLAH being the only one that possesses his powers his name is what? AL ALIM THE ALL KNOWING this is a way of saying Allah it is his name actually, so if the prophet sws knew all the unseeen he would be AL ALIM and this is calling him ALLAH and again is shirk is this not clear to you ??
"He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries Except an apostle whom He has chosen: and then He makes a band of watchers march before him and behind him" (72:26/27)
now your thinking who is this apostle well of course the prophet muhamad salalahualayhiwassalmam
@TheLrmafia YOU IDIOT i gave you a clear AYAT where ALLAH swt tells MOHAMMAD SAY I DO NOT KNOW MATTERS OF THE UNSEEN now that is clear and unmistakable no assumptions or interpretation needed yet what your saying I explained he PART OF ALLAH SWT'S revelation is about the unseen for example he tells the Prophet sws about Jannah is Jannah not unseen YES but he revealed the UNSEEN however when read beside the other verse I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN meaning that which HAS NOT BEEN REVEALED
@lilblitz Say, "I have no autonomy to benefit or hurt myself, except what Allah wills; and were I to procure knowledge of the hidden on my own, it would be that I had accumulated a lot of good; and no misfortune would touch me; I am purely a Herald of Warning and Glad Tidings to the people who believe."
@TheLrmafia YOU JUST QUOTED THE SAME AYAT I DID THAT SAYS IF I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE HIDDEN I WOULD HAVE ACCUMULATED A LOT OF GOOD you confused idiot I wish u could actually read the language the Quran was written in, THIS ayat is telling Mohammad sws to say he has no knowledge of the unseen because if he did he would have prevented all harm from himself what a silly boy read 10 translations lol u quoted as evidence an AYAT specially revealed to let people know HE HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN
@TheLrmafia SEE what did it say, this translation guy with his clever words to confuse pakistanis look even you will know word for word, WA LAWLA QUNTU wa is and lawla quntu if i had/ if i was depending on the sentence, Alam means what? known/knows when you say Allah AL ALAIM it is one of his names THE ALL KNOWING, ALIM by its self mean knows so very simple IF I HAD KNOWN THE UNSEEN (GHAYB) so how can that be misinterpreted ur going against teh Quran and justifying it n another language?
@TheLrmafia ISLAM S-L-M from the very aslama it means to submit Islam is to submit to Allah but you chose to sumbit to schollars who contracdict Allah swt this is a type of cultural pride about which Allah mentiones in the Quran we found our forefathers doing it, and this is not an excuse the way to submit to Allah and practice tawheed is the only way to be a muslim and if you wish to be arrogant and deny the truth then Allahs wrath is on you I dont care I can only advise burn in hell if u want
@TheLrmafia Do you follow it is very simple and innocent, we know about all the prophets sws about the angels about the layers of Junnah about the dijal about the mahdi. Now think if no messengers had ever came how would we know this stuff? It would be things we cannot see in front of us there would be know way to know so it is unseen. But Allah swt ''reveals not his secrets to anyone but his chosen messengers'' so Allah swt revealed that to the prophets otherwise to us would still be unseen!
I dont want any false HADITHS OR What a schollar of yours has said it MEANS NOTHING IF IT CONTRADICTS QURAN, this is known if a hadith contradicts Quran it is fabricated this is an established islamic principle where there is no argument unless you are saying the Quran is wrong which is what that would imply?? Allah swt says ''bring you evidence if you are truthful'' I gave you more than ten clear ayat forbidding invoking other than Allah now bring me just one thats says you can.
@TheLrmafia here we go again I smash every claim you make with clear Quran and you start looking for sects, you are diseased and I do not follow any one iman did the Prophet sws say we must follow one of the 4 imams that had not even been born yet did Allah swt name these 4 imans, rather they are all good and follow the Quran and the sunnah but as men they make mistakes so we follow which opinions are most correct and they only differ slightly on matters of firq but not aqida (beleif)
LA ILLAH ILLA HUWA- NONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WORSHIPED EXCEPT ALLAH, and dua is a type of worship I rest my case.'' My Lord has commanded justice and (said) that you should FACE HIM ONLY in every place of worship, in prayers and INVOKE HIM ONLY making your religion sincere to Him Quran 7.29 Are you ready to become a muslim yet so I can call you brother??
good work brother with the hadith, in sahih muslim,
Anas b. malik reported
Allah's Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) as saying: I came. And in the narration transmitted on the authority of Haddib (the words are): I happened to pass by Moses (عليه السلام) on the occasion of the Night journey near the red mound (and found him) saying his prayer in his Grave. [Sahih Muslim Book 030, Number 5858:]
Alhamdulillah we believe the Prophet peace be upon him as the Prophets in their graves are also
@MrMezla 18-20 (Al-Jinn):18. “And the mosques are for Allah (Alone): so INVOKE NOT ANYONE along with Allah.19. And when the slave of Allah (Muhammad) stood up invoking Him (his Lord - Allah) in prayer they (the jinn) just made round him a dense crowd as if sticking one over the other (in order to listen to the Prophet's recitation) Say (O Muhammad): "I INVOKE ONLY my Lord, and I associate none as partners along with Him. SO CLEARLY MORE THAN 10 VERSES U DISBELIEVE IN THE QURAN have u no fear?
Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri : Allah's Apostle said, When the funeral is ready (for its burial) and the people lift it on their shoulders, then if deceased is a righteous person he says, Take me ahead, and if he is not a righteous one then he says, 'Woe to it (me)! Where are you taking it (me)?' And his voice is audible to everything except human beings; and if they heard it they would fall down unconscious."
@TheLrmafia Lol the dead can hear us you prat? Do you know anything about your religion?? Allah swt lets the soul hear what is said about him for 3 days before he is buried which actually hurts you because 3 DAYS INDICATES A TIME LIMIT that after THAT THEY CANT HEAR YOU, but even if they could hear us so what? the shaytan can hear us should we pray to him too? Does hearing us justify making dua to them creating shirk Your arguments are stupid as usual
Narrated Ibn Shihab:These were the battles of Allah's Apostle (which he fought), and while mentioning (the Badr battle) he said, "While the corpses of the pagans were being thrown into the well, Allah's Apostle said (to them), 'Have you found what your Lord promised true?" 'Abdullah said, "Some of the Prophet's companions said, "O Allah's Apostle! You are addressing dead people.' Allah's Apostle replied, 'You do not hear what I am saying, better than they.'
@TheLrmafia Why do you think when the person is dead we move him carefully he even feels pain!!! but this is only for 3 days and again SO what does this mean we can commit shirk by praying to them?? The angels can hear us do we ask them for help NO BECAUSE IT IS SHIRK YOU FREAK how many times in the Quran Allah is SUFFICIENT for us, do you know what sufficient means???? Raab do you know what that means ???? once again how can you refute what Allah says in the Quran surat al fatiha IKAKA NABUHU
"The Messenger of Allah spoke to the People (buried) in the Well saying: "Have you found out that what your Lord had promised you is true?" then someone exclaimed: "Are you calling out to the dead!" The Prophet replied: "You do not hear better than they do, except they do not respond."
My 2nd question refers to when Hazrat Bilal went to RAsoolallah sallalhaualyhiwsallams grave and asked for help as it is mentioned in IBN KATHIR'S KITAAB AL BIDAYA WANNIHAYA VOL 7 PAGE 104 (YOUR SCHOLAR HERE HAS MENTIONED IT ALSO)
@MrMezla when bilal visitd the grave he said Allah answer me as you have answered Mohammad sws, like in salah when we say Allah bless the mulims as you have blessed Ibrahim and his followers what the hell has that got to do with asking the prophet sws for something you are asking Allah to bless you the way he blessed the Prophets who he loves, not calling on the prophet or in their name or any other shirk, SO MANY QUESTIONS BUT AGAIN AND AGAIN IGNORE THE AYAT YOU ALONE TO WE ASK FOR HELP ANSWER?
@MrMezla MY wahabi do i own them do I pay them do i say I am a wahabi?/ I just explained that to you 10 times and again you call me a wahabi dirty tricks are only for people with no points
The Apostle of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; so invoke many blessings on me that day, for your blessing will be submitted to me. They (the Companions) asked: Apostle of Allah, how can our blessing be submitted to you, when your body is decayed? He said: Allah has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of the Prophets. [Abu Dawud Book 002, Hadith Number 1526:]
@MrMezla The hadith you gave is when we give salams to the prophet sws Allah has granted him to return it saying sws is not asking him for something!!! You are ridiculous we cant agree on hadith so forget hadith since i already gave you hadith about calling on Allah alone, but we agree on Quran so answer the severl ayat where Allah swt said invoke NONE but him, you just ignore the work of Allah swt because you love shirk so much stupid pakis always want an excuse to worship people
@MrMezla SubahanAllah I made DUA Allah swt makes it easy to destroy ur argument and I came accross this ayat Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. IF I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me'' Quran 7.188 ANSWER THAT HOW CLEAR DO U WANT THAT HE HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN only a kaffir could argue against Allahs word using fake hadith as evidene
@MrMezla YOU dont want truth you want shirk you love it if someone accused me of shirk I would tremble with fear incase I made that mistake for you it is nothing you ignore how many clear clear statements from the Quran and replace Alla swt's word with fake hadith with no authentic narration?? Did you hear of these ideas before that mushrik braevili?? You have the evidence, as Allah advises us to say to the mushriks ''You to your religion and me to mine'' SALAAM
@MrMezla “Say (O Muhammad): "Tell me if Allah's Torment comes upon you, or the Hour comes upon you, would you then call upon any one other than Allah? (Reply) if you are truthful!" 41. Nay! To Him Alone you would call'' Quran 6.40 how much evidence from the Quran?? Do you still deny?? 67. “And when harm touches you upon the sea, those that you call upon vanish from you except Him (Allah Alone). But when He brings you safe to land, you turn away (from Him). And man is ever ungrateful Quran17.67
@TheLrmafia But you know what I think because I destroyed your shirk rather should I say Allah swt has destroyed it with his clear verses I think like a snake you want to wriggle out and start talking about madhabs now, that is another topic and irrelevant as every one of the 4 imans mentioned do not differ from the others on matters of Tawheed they are agreed and what you are saying goes against every one of them so lets not slip off the topic
@lilblitz "There is not anything that I have not seen before but I have seen now at this place of mine, even Paradise and Hell. It has been revealed to me that you people will be put to trial nearly like the trial of Ad-Dajjal, in your graves. As for the true believer or a Muslim (the sub-narrator is not sure as to which of the two (words Asma' had said)
@TheLrmafia OK so u are saying Allah swt contradicts him self is this correct? If you interpret that verse to mean the prophet sws knows the unseen then Allah swt said'' IF I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me'' THAT IS A CLEAR CONTRADICTION!! Yet when interpretative how it is obvious which is Allah's revelation talks of the unseen such as Jannah, is Jannah unseen YES but YOU know about it because it was revealed to Mohammad sws
@TheLrmafia Do your teeth hurt from clinging on to your shirk, I GAVE YOU TEN AYATS THAT SAY DO NOT INVOKE OTHER THAN ALLAH SWT now give me ONE that says you can invoke the prophet sws ?? YOU NEVERR WILL YOU WILL SNAKE AROUND AND QUOTE HADITH THAT YOU CAN MISINTERPRET 10 clear ayat saying INVOKE ALLAH SWT ALONE NOW BRING ONE THAT SAYS U CAN MAKE DUA TO THE PROPHET SWS you actually deserve the jahannam you get because you argue with clear truth even when u know your wrong
@MrMezla Quran 7.194 Verily, those whom you call upon besides Allah are slaves like you. So call upon them and let them answer you if you are truthful. DID THE WAHABIS WRITE THE QURAN what now still ur shirk?? Can you not see the truth Allah swt has revealed?? Will you give up your crime against Allah or face his punishment???
@MrMezla ord; And those, whom you INVOKE or CALL upon instead of Him, own not even a Qitmir (the thin membrane over the date-stone). 14. If you INVOKE (or call upon) them, they HEAR NOT YOUR CALL, and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you. And on the Day of Resurrection, they will DISOWN your worshipping them'' lol The rasuul sws will disown you for calling on him is this what you want ???????? HOW MUCH EVIDENCE ?????
@MrMezla Abu Huraira said that Muhammad said: There is for every apostle a prayer which is granted, but every prophet showed haste in his prayer. I have, however, reserved my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection, and it would be granted, if Allah so willed, in case of everyone amongst my Ummah provided he dies without associating anything with Allah RESERVED MY PRAYER meaning he only has been given one and u pakis call him to help pass ur exams lol
@lilblitz IF THE PROPHET HAD AS MANY INTERSESSION AS HE WANTED Y DID HE RESERVE IT UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT?? AND WHY WAIT UNTILL THEN IF HE COULD INTERCEDE NOW HE WOULD HAVE ASKED TO START INTERCEDING FROM HIS GRAVE BUT NO HE RESERVED IT UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDMENT
@MrMezla Mushrik I gave you at least 5 ayat from the Quran where Allah says call on him ALONE what does alone mean???? I gave you ayat where Allah swt says the ones you call on besides Allah CANNOT help you and CANNOT ever hear you, now what is your answer for disbeleiving in VERY VERY clear ayat, in TAWHHED and in the sayings of Mohammad sws you can never answer it you shayateen your stupid answer is PAK hadiss how can a hadith contradict the Quran what is certain Quran or hadith????
The way u r interperating that ayah is going against the sahaba, when hazrat Bilal radialllahuanahu went to the Prophet sallalhaualyhiwsallams grave, did he not know about the ayah better than u and i? u interperate it wrong, and u r an ignorant wahhabi who is forcing to accept the truth, if you are truthful watch that video, they show proof for saying Ya Muhammad
@MrMezla HOW CAN YOU MISENTERPRETE YOU ALONE DO WE WORSHIP AND YOU ALONE DO WE ASK FOR HELP explain what is TAWHEED do you think there are no fabricated hadith there were thousands, the whole point on islam is not to take partners to Allah thats what shirk means literally to take a partner when you ask on someone other than Allah you are taking a partner u cant let go of ur hindu roots thats what they do they beleive in 1 god and 50 demi gods they call on under him that is NOT ISLAM
@MrMezla SHOULD I COME AND SHOUT IT IN YOUR EAR I AM NOT A WAHABI YOU IDIOT all you are doing is showing that you cannot stand it that you are wrong and teh mainstream is split between the 4 madhabs maliki shaffi hanibili and haniffi these constitute at least 80 percent of the muslims and each school agrees on the principles of tawheed there is no difference in opinion and this is the same views as the sahabba SO YES IT IS THE MAJORITY , or perhaps braevali is the majority
@MrMezla I swear by Allah swt I am not wahabbi and have never been a wahabimay Allah swt's curse be on the one who calls me that to lie against me the fact is all of the muslims are against your sect so your diversion tactic is to act like the rest of teh muslims 1.5 billion are wahabis lol every muslim hanifi shafi hanaballi and maliki condem your shirk how come u dont say them you hold on to wahabi with dear life u mushrik because it helps u justify ur kufr to urself
i am hanafi also. My brother come on sunniforum(dot)net or yanabiforum(dot)com, pose your questions there you will be defeated, all you doing now is dodging the questions i pose listen now i ask u 3 questions
Is it shirk to say ya Rasoolallah?
Why did Hazrat Bilal go to the Prophet sallalhaualyhiwsallam grave
DO you accept ibn taymiyyah has said bad about the sahaba?
@MrMezla what did Iman abdul wahab teach ?? He wrote kitab al Tawheed , tawheed is the first pilar of islam so it is not his teachings it is his way of explaining it and every muslim follows tawheed but u mushriks do not! argue with Allah he commanded tawheed not Ibn Abdul Wahab I follow the teachings of the Prophet Mohammad sws and try to understand those teachings how the sahaba understood it i do not stick my head up the ass of a ''mullah' and take what ever he says even if it sagainst islam
@lilblitz Abdullah bin Ahmed bin Hanbal (rah) said that he heard his father (Imam Ahmed) who said: I performed Hajj 5 times, thrice on foot and twice on ride or he said thrice on ride and twice on foot, once when I was on foot I lost my way hence I started to exclaim this: O Allah’s servants show me the way (يا عباد الله دلوني على الطريق), I kept on repeating this until I came back on track. [Imam Baihaqi in Shu’ayb ul Iman, Volume 6, Page No 128, Hadith No. 7697]
@TheLrmafia You are giving me now not even ur fabricated hadith any more but what schollars years later apparently said, there is no chain of relation on any of these hadith and they go against islamic principle beliefs and contradict Quran they are not even da'ef (weak) but fabricated anyhow we wont agree on that but we do agree on Quran and I gave you several ayat to call on Allah swt alone but you seem to ignore that the word of Allah swt and replace it with what a ''mufti'' said
you say i worship Muhammad sallalhualayhiwasallam for saying calling on him, astaghfirullah, when Imam Hanbals son proclaimed Oh Allahs serveants help me, was he worshiping the serveants astaghfirullah, ur aqida disrespects Allah, u say he has physical parts, it is written in the kitaabs by ibn taymiyyah, how he called the companion mushrik astaghfirullah!
@MrMezla Well i dont believe his son said that but if he did then yes it would have been shirk because Allah swt say's in several ayat which I quoted to INVOKE ALLAH ALONE so I am sure he did not do it I dont care who does it is there someone superior in word than Allah swt DID THE BEST IN KNOWLEDGE ABU BAKR UTHMAN UMMAR OR ALI do it NO! The ahadith they make up are about less known people so it is easier to believe. NO HADITH OR SCHOLAR CAN CONTRADICT ALLAH and ALLAH SWS SAYS INVOKE ME ALONE
Abdullah bin Ahmed bin Hanbal (rah) said that he heard his father (Imam Ahmed) who said: I performed Hajj 5 times, thrice on foot and twice on ride or he said thrice on ride and twice on foot, once when I was on foot I lost my way hence I started to exclaim this: O Allah’s servants show me the way (يا عباد الله دلوني على الطريق), I kept on repeating this until I came back on track. [Imam Baihaqi in Shu’ayb ul Iman, Volume 6, Page No 128, Hadith No. 7697]
@MrMezla he was talking about the people around him you clown what the hell is wrong with you, we are all the slaves of Allah swt if I asked a schollar now oh rightly guided servant of Allah help me cook dinner is it shirk???? But once he is dead it would be because I am calling on the unseen which Allah said can never harm or benifit you
@MrMezla OK look your stupid or arrogant one or the other There is a hadith from ibn Ummar if one of you calls the other a kaffir then one of you is what he said meaning if I call you a kaffir and I am wrong I would be the kaffir so I am very careful who I call that . Walahhi if you make dua to Mohammad sws then YOU ARE A KAFFIR now one of us is a kaffir explain what kufr I have committed???
@TheLrmafia YOU IDIOT yea it does it tells us how to put NOS in a racing car!!! The knowledge it does tell us cannot be overrun by other knowledge because it is the HIGHEST AUTHORITY so if other knowledge contradicts QURAN then it is rejected because Quran supersedes it! Hindus have a lot of knowledge muslims do not about weird matters does that mean it is superior to QURAN you are talking about knowledge THE QURAN GIVES DO NOT INVOKE and challenging it with a lower source are you that stupid?
@lilblitz u r a real idiot lol, plz answer my question and stop interprating the ayahs of the quran in your own way. Now answer this
Did ibn Taymiyyah called some sahabis mushriks, was he right, if he was right is he a kafir for calling the sahaba kafir and if he is a kafir on that basis are u followin a kafir? i will rpely back to your comments ina short while, plz answer my question with references
@MrMezla Interpret clear AYAT my own way you animal, EVERY MUSLIM EXCEPT YOUR SECT AND THE SHIA INTRPRETE IT HOW I AM SAYING ALL OF THE FOUR MADHABA ALL OF THEM YOU SICK SHAYTAN
@MrMezla NO I HAVE CALLED YOU A KAFFIR SO NOW 1 OF US IS A KAFFIR IF I AM WRONG THEN I AM A KAFFIR IF I AM RIGHT YOU ARE THE KAFFIR and ALLAH swt knows best which of us is but think you have does something that Allah, his Prophet sws and all of the ummah agree is shirk which makes a person a kaffir, what have I done think about it I obay all of The Quran, the Sunnah I love all the sahaba and the messengers before I have always kept my salah so how can I be a kaffir BUT ONE OF US IS
@MrMezla Name one thing I do weird, I pray, I fast, I believe in Allah alone as Illah I beleive in the Quran in Qadr, in the day of judgment in the akhira in the angels and I CALL ON ALLAH ALONE TO HELP me you dont you take saints and prophets as partners to him so think how can I be a kaffir but think what you have done you have taken partners to Allah Wallahi it makes me almost cry how the shaytan has tricked the muslims into disbelieving in Allah and commiting shirk I wish you would change
@MrMezla Wallah I only call you that out of jealousy for Allah's rights and to make you realize not to hurt you think about this. Why do you think Christianity is no longer allowed why did Mohammad come ? Because they started to worship Esa sws and they only said we ask him to ask Allah on our behalf because he is nearer to Allah now you have done the same to the prophet sws what was the point in islam and Mohammad sws said ''Do not do to me what the Christians did to ESA sws Walahi so terrible
thnx for the comment, but what i want to say is, I make dua to ALLAH, i worship Allah, All i am saying is , it is permisabble to ask other than Allah for help with the belief Allah alone has the power to give that person power to help you, The narration of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal shows us this, i do not think any other scholar or person has called imam ahmed a mushrik for saying Oh Servants of Allah help me, so how can u and i say hes a mushrik?
@MrMezla But then that is not asking him alone and if he alone is doing it why do you need them they are useless if Allah has the power and only he grants it what good is anyone else in that equation? As for Iman Ahmad he said to alive people around him not freaking dead ones look up any interpretation of that outside ur sect which WANTS you to believe that and has an agenda why do u let them trick u and steel ur islam?
@MrMezla Can I ask you a question as Allah as your witness does all this sound evidence I am quoting not put any doubt in to your heart about what these liars have taught you as hard as it is to give up something you are used to can you not see the purity and cleanness in the evidence that all religion is for Allah alone all calls all dua all everything IT IS HIS RIGHT ALONE please do not harm yourself and disobey Allah swt and his messenger sws because of these liars
what dyu mean what the liers have thwt me, if imam bukhari has narrated it in his kitaab Adaab ul Mufrad and it has been proven a reliable hadith why shall i not act upon it, it is not commiting shirk! now look, u r not answering my question!
Ok i will ask you have you seen that your sect have had more dua answered that the rest of the muslims?? Look at saudi kuwait UAE all they have money and good lives look at pakistan it is the worst place on earth rather the palistinians were known for cursing Allah look how Allah swt humiliates them look at floods in pakistan do you think Allah would do that to a pious people it is because of your shirk every pakistani family i know is messed up so how is ur dua helping
@MrMezla No what I am saying is Allah tests all his slaves with good and bad rich and poor but he honors his righteous slaves would a flood take out the sahaba?? Did yu see how Allah swt sent angels on to the battle fields, did you see how they had their success and were honored after all their hard ship what I am saying is not money otherwise the jews would be best what I am saying is did Allah swt honor you above the rest of us for your dua to Mohammad sws rather ur in a very bad state
@MrMezla Sorry one more thing before you go, think about our discussions all you have ever kept chasing after is me to say wahabi or what schollar do i follow or imam ahmad said this or that, that is all you discussed, did I once ask about your sheiks, what did I use as the tool for my argument QURAN AND SUNNAH QURAN AND SUNNAH QURAN AND SUNNAH look at the difference between our sources you keep talking about schollars and I only talk about Quran and Sunnah so which is more near to the truth
just to let you know scholars also use the quran and sunnah, only difference between us and scholars is they are more knowledgeble, its like doctors and patient relationship
@MrMezla WE can call anyone a kaffir if he steps outside Islam because Allah has made very clear what makes one a kaffir and Iman Amhad would not do this you have to look at whole pictures if always he says tawheed and call on Allah alone and then we hear this it is not in keeping with his behavior so we know it is to alive people, The Quran says THERE IS NO GOD wallah it says that but are we athiests, NO? because f we finish the sentence BUT ALLAH it makes sense You have to look in context
@MrMezla When the Prophet sws gave his last speach he said I LEAVE THE QURAN AND MY SUNNAH follow it and you will not go wrong DID he say I leave you so and so sheik?? You are giving these people authority over the Prophet and Allah, THE QURAN SAYS DO NOT INVOKE MOHAMMAD SWS NEVER INVOKED so you are going against the two things he said he left and leaving Islam for fake hadith and paki mushriks
@MrMezla Walahhi if I thought you were a muslim I would not even say one bad word in your direction and I would protect you as if you were my own family, if you committed zina, if you drank you are still my brother in islam and I would not dare to call u a kaffir out of fear of Allah swt but when you call on a saint or a prophet this is taking a partner to Allah and it puts you outside islam how can you be so disloyal to the one who created you? If Mohammad sws was here he would execute u walah
@MrMezla The shaytan is a sheik he knows more than any scholar about islam. If he can't trick you into disbelieving in Mohammad he will try and trick you in other ways in the hope he can take u of the straight path but the trick he has used by taking the love we have for out blessed Prophet sws and turning that into shirk is a very dangerous tick but easy to see through and weak because the evidence is all against it, Wallahi ask Allah with an open heart he will show u
@MrMezla Whoever Obeys a Scholar or a Ruler by Prohibiting What Allah Has Permitted or Permitting What Allah Has Prohibited Has Taken Them as Partners Beside Allah Ibn `Abbas (ra) said: "Stones are about to rain down upon you from the sky: I say to you: "Allah's Messenger said..." and you reply: "But Abu Bakr and `Umar said you see even peope would try and say ABU BAKR who is greater than all these scholars said, and Ibn Abbas said what he said above
In Adab ul Mufrad, with authentic narrations and i can shw u proof for that, it is written a blessed sahabi called out YA MUHAMMAD! so i think ur sying he was wrong. but please if u want the refr. il sho yu that video with ARABIC kitaabs, now plz
answer this do u follow ibn abdul wahhab and ibn taymiyyah
@MrMezla All I am writing shows if we follow anyone who opposes Allah and his messenger to folllow him is taking him as a partner to Allah as u took his word over Allah, I do not follow any particular sheik which ever sheik even you if he says something that is logical and it is supported by strong evidence from the Quran and the sunnah and that the sahabbis ra have seen it like this I follow this is what is meant in the ayat ''they take their rabbis and monks as lords'' they follow them blindly
Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal said: "I am amazed at those people who know that a sanad is authentic and yet, in spite of this, they follow the opinion of Sufyan, for Allah (ra), says:" Let those who oppose his [ Messenger's] commandment beware, lest some fitnah befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them" (Qur'an 24:63
Do you know what that fitnah is? That fitnah is Shirk. Maybe the rejection of some of his words would cause one to doubt and deviate in his heart and be destroyed''
@MrMezla " They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords beside Allah and [they take as a lord] Al-Maseeh, `Eesaa, the son of Maryam, yet they were not commanded but to worship One God: None has the right to be worshipped but He - Praise and Glory to Him: [Far is He] from having the partners they associate [withHim]" (Qur'an 9:31) a man said they do not worship them The Rassul sws said ''do they not make permissible what Allah has forbidden'' meaning following this is a type of worship
@MrMezla On go the circles refuting CLEAR QURAN REPEATED OVER AND OVER WHERE ALLAH SWT SAYS INVOKE ME ALONE AND REFUTING IT WITH MADE UP OR MISINTERPRETED HADITH, ok I worship Allah you worship those who make up hadith halas you cant find an AYAT that says INVOKE OTHER THAN ALLAH SWT but I found 10 which say DO NOT so it is finished, you have submitted you cannot meet the challenge just slither around it like a snake ur judment is with Allah we have discussed all the points good luck
So you would show the ayahs to Imam Hanbal if you had the chance? LOL, u r misinterperating, WALLAHI I WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE, NOW PLEASE DO NOT DODGE THIS QUESTION DID IBN TAYMIYYAH CALL SOME SAHABIS MUSHRIKS YES OR NO? AND IF HE DID WAS HE RIGHT
@MrMezla LISTEN I DONT CARE WHAT ANY SCHOLAR DID it is not my job to know he said she said Chinese whispers it is my JOB TO KNOW QURAN AND SUNNAH how the sahabba understood it using Quran and authentic hadith that DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE QURAN the vast majority of muslims do they make dua to the prophet YES OR NO??? They never have none of the Sahaba has NOW THE HELL can someone misinterpret 'CALL ON ALLAH ALONE'' where is there room to misinterpret that specially when repeated 100 times
@lilblitz Say, hafiz ibn taymiyya and qadi shawkani quote:
"abdullah ibn mas'ud RA reported that our prophet sallalahualayhiwasalam stated: "if you ever find yourselves stranded alone in a desolate place or jungle then say, o servants of Allah! help me allah have mercy on you"
(Ibn Taymiyya al-kalim al-tayyib page 69 and shawkani tufhat ad-dhakireen page 130 ibn sunni imam bazaar hafiz al hasamim and imam an-nawawi all quote these hadith in the various books
@TheLrmafia Yea quote me a thousand more false Ahadith do you think there are false hadith yes or no?/ WE know for a fact there are fasle hadith and the schollars easily say the hadith which contradict the QURAN I GAVE YOU 10 and the SUNNAH MOHAMMAD SWS NEVER SAID CALL ON HIM EVER then it is false so you replace The Quran and the Prophet with this crap kuffr have you no sense
@TheLrmafia Yunis 106. "And INVOKE NOT besides Allah, any that will neither profit you, nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the ZALIMUN (polytheists and wrong-doers)." 107. And if Allah touches you with hurt, there is NONE who can remove it but He; and if He intends any good for you, there is NONE who can repel His Favour which He causes it to reach whomsoever of His slaves He will. And He is the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. HOW MUCH EVIDENCE DO U NEED??
@MrMezla STUPID KAFFIR say wahabbi until your shirk commiting tounge drops out it just makes you an idiot as I have explained I am not wahabi you pakistani robot programmed to say wahabi every time someone points out you are committing shirk I give you Quran you cant answer u give stupid paki videos May Allah swt guide you or destroy you SALLAM I cannot keep my patience with an idiot who disbelieves in the quran and only answer is VAHABBI and paki videos EVEN YOU KNOW YOU ARE WRONG
@MrMezla Once again uneducated pakistani sect man I am not a ''wahabbi'' my beliefs are the beliefs of the mainstream majority muslims on which there is consensus in the ummah and consensus from the sahabba i do not believe anything beyond that just because you are a sect dont try and label me a sect you break away from the jummah not me this shows ur weakness, the ''wahabbi'' wrote a book kitab al tawheed this is y u hate him ''the book of Allah's oneness'' FIST PILAR OF ISLAM
Ur beliefs are not the mainstream hahahah how can it be? Ur sect came 250 yrs ago, and we h8 ibn abdul wahhab because of his beliefs! U can not answer those videos? WHY? because it exposes ur fake sheikhs
@MrMezla every video is from a member of a sect not a mainstream muslim ofcurse a member of a sect will justify what he does in his sect is that a proof? A dog will justify why he eats his own feces if he could talk, I am asking for proof from the Quran and sunnah there is none except a stupid interpretation of a verse which makes no sense and it strongly refuted by several other verses, the bottom line is if Mohammad sws did not do it then it is not from islam so where is ur argument?
@MrMezla That idiot in the video speaking arabic, you know what he said wahabis atribute body parts to Allah? SubahanAllah, Allah swt says in the Quran ''Everything will perish except his face'' Allah swt refers to his hands several times, we do not know what Allah swt's face and hand is like and we do not think about that because it cannot be compared to ours and is beyond out imagination, but if Allah swt says he has a face and hand in his book are you arguing with Allah swt about what HE says
@lilblitz 'lil blitz, urshcolar the oneyou love ibn taymiyyah rote about the daughter of the Prophet sallalhualayhiwsallam in his kitaaab, minhaj us sunnah an nabawiyyah that she had attributes of a hypocrite ASTAGHFIRULLAH HOW DARE UR SCHOLAR RYT THIS ASTAGHFIRULLAH
you still have not answerd this you are very good at moving away from the point.
@MrMezla Even when the Prophet sws was alive it was not permissible to say ye Mohammad Al-Dahhaak said, narrating from Ibn ‘Abbaas: They used to say Ya Muhammad, Ya Aba’l-Qaasim, but Allaah told them not to do that, out of respect to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So they said Ya Rasool Allaah (O Messenger of Allaah), Ya Nabi Allaah (O Prophet of Allaah).
@MrMezla You keep telling me what wahabis do I dont care what wahabis do they are not my business that id your point? Because someone else does something wrong then it is ok for you to do something wrong this is a trick of ur leaders create an enimy ''the wahabi'' this is what America does finds ''communists'' and not ''islamic terrorists'' to try and justify the wrong things they do, I am a mainstream ahli sunnah wa al Jammat and we do not have any strange ideas
what are u trying to implement, that we are ALLOWED TO SAY YA NABI ALLAH? BECAUSE UR POINT IS STUPID IN THIS MATTER, YOU CAN NOT ANSWER THE POINTS RAISED!
@MrMezla What is stupid is that u cannot grasp simple points that the rest of the muslims can. I SAID in the TIME of the Prophet sws when he was ALIVE they did not say ya Mohammad out of respect Allah said do not refer to him like you do each other, so they said YE RASUL out of respect. NOW that he is DEAD may Allah bless him to call on him like he can hear you or is present hoping for his help s SHIRK but if remembering him to urself u say YA NABI not intending for him to hear this is different
@MrMezla where is this that the slogan was ye mohammad sws ?? if it is said for example to bring him to mind when remembering with the intention not to call on him this is different, but you people call on him to help you this is shirk like he can hear you, And the Prophet sws said to Ibn ‘Abbaas ra “If you ask, then ask of Allaah, and if you seek help then seek help from Allaah. did he say ask me or a ''saint'' this is shirk the one who does this is a mushrik
@MrMezla When Musa sws asked to see Allah swt Allah said keep your eyes on this mountain and you will see me, the mountain crumbled and Musa sws passed out so how can we try to imagine how is Allah swt's face it is too magnificent for our imagination because we have seen nothing we can compare it too, but how can you say Allah swt does not have a face or a hand when HE says he does in his book and through his Prophet sws
@MrMezla Are you stupid there are sahee hadiths on which there is no argument when Mohammad sws said call on Allah ALONE in the Quran there are several ayat about calling on ALLAH alone IYAKA NA ABUDU IYAKA NESTAEEN you ALONE do we worship and YOU alone do we ask for help. I quoted all of them and u disbelieve in Tawheed the first pillar of islam in confirmed sahee hadith and now in the Quaran and ur season for disbelieving is there are ''PAK hadeess" That contradict the Quran the sunnah KAFIR
Aslam-o-alaikum
jee ap ne qirat kis se seekhi?
Or
seekhi bhi k???????
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i will deal with u tomorrow about ibn abdul wahhab and his corrupt beliefs
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla yea but i dont care about ibn abdul wahabs beliefs that not the point
lilblitz 1 year ago
answer this then, were ibn abdul wahhabs TEACHINGS and ibn taymiyyahs wrong meaning had strange beliefs in them
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla All I have heard about Abdul Wahab is he wrote a book called Kitab Al Tawhhed going into detail about tawheed, tawheed is the dearest thing to Allah that is why he does not forgive shirk it goes against Tawheed, now from the small parts I have read from this book I have not seen any weird things but I know practically nothing more than that so how can i judge the man it may be Allah has guided or misguided him as with any sheikh i really dont know because I havn't read alot from him
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
okay, i will resume talking to u tomorrow INSHALLAH AZZAWAJAL!
ASALAATU WASALAAMU ALAYKA YA RASOOLALLAH!
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Thats fine have a good sleep, but remember if every sheik dissapeared new ones would come up and the only good ones would be the ones who follow Quran and Sunnah, and dua to the prophet is Not from the Quran or Sunnah and even you cant argue that IF Mohammad sws did not do it it is not islam so really its that simple what you do is not islam because you are doing something the Prophet sws did not
lilblitz 1 year ago
sunniforum(dot)net/showthread(dot)php?t=303
ur proof is their for calling other than Allah now plz lisen
answer this, do u follow ibn abdul wahhab
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla I will show you how stupid this wahabi thing is I never follow any one sheik because he is human he makes mistakes, Mohammad sws is a prophet and he makes NO MISTAKE IN REVELATION yet I do not even call my self a Mohamadi so how could I ever call by self after a sheik when I do not even call myself after the prophet sws I am a MUSLIM (THE ONE WHO SUBMITS TO ALLAH SWT) and I follow the teachings of the messenger of Allah swt now do u see how stupid ''wahabbi'' crap is
lilblitz 1 year ago
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MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Sunni forum is a known deviators website i have read all the proof ur sect quote it is absolutely stupid all the standing committee of scholars have rejected it as shirk Allah swt says 'O son of Adam if you return to me with the sins nearly as great as the Earth HAVING ASSOCIATED NO PARTNER TO ME I would forgive you..'' What do you think partner means you just ignore it, why risk being a kaffir for what If Allah swt doesn't want to help u can the Prophet make him? What is the use?
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
we dont worship The Prophet sallalhualayhiwasallam! u r blind, the proof is thre on the site, check it . look please answer this question now! Do u fllow ibn abdul wahhab
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla I HAVE ANSWERED 20 times I know you would love me to say I follow Abdul WAhab so you could call me a wahabi and feel better, I TOLD you I DO NOT FOLLOW ANY ONE SHEIK GIVE UP you will never hear me say I follow this sheik only or that sheik I have only read a few parts of what Abdul Wahab wrote so how can I say I follow him when I have never studied everything he has said, BUT I HAVE STUDIED EVERYTHING I CAN ABOUT WHAT MOHAMMAD SWS SAID AND I FOLLOW HIM MOHAMMAD SWS
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
u can not even admit u follow wht ibn abdul wahhab says!
and ibn taymiyyah, filth in his writings against the sahaba calling them mushriks astaghfirullah!
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Lol admit would you give your soul to shaytan if I ''admitted'' it I think you would because then you could give me a label, if Ibn abdul wahab or ibn taymiyya said anything against Allah, the messenger of Allah or the sahabba I would piss on him who is he to me to I have a loyalty to him my loyalty and oath is to Allah swt alone
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
well they DID say wrong stuff, and u said u no salem amry, he loves ibn abdul wahhab OOOPS whats going on here!?
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Yes I know sheik Slaim amry I live in Dubai now but I am from UK he is in my friend majlis (big tent thing) all the time, he gave me a fatwa once about my work and i thought he was very good I have watched his lectures too any defiantly have not heard him say strange stuff
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz you can check in youtube if you type salem al amry ibn abdul wahhab or something like that, that he is explaining kitaab ut tawheed. nyway i will resume talking inshallah tomorrow
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Ok so what! Whatever problem you have with Ibn Abdul Wahab doesnt mean everything he did is bad if he is talking about tawheed whats wrong with that it is the first pilar of islam so surely we NEED to understand it because without Tawheed our islam is invalid so don't you agree tawheed is very important??Find a bad thing in that book and I will never read it and be more against him that you
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
accept me as a friend and then send me msgs as then i will have more space for posting
MrMezla 1 year ago
@lilblitz HAHAHA, ugly terrorist Muslim boy - I thought you were a baller in LA? I thought your sister is married to that fat d-list director? Um, interesting that you hang out with imams and Muslim fundamentalists who look like monkeys in your lizard-eating state of Araaaaaaaabia! Don't be mad b/c you haven't touched a pussy, your marriage is arranged to a sweaty beast, and you jerk off every night to girls who looks like me :) Anger truly is sad, my slave!
SilviaCenni 11 months ago
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Lil blitz u r insane
Answer me these questions please
Do You Follow ibn Abdul Wahhab if yes Did he follow the Sayings of Ibn Taymiyyah if yes Did ibn Taymiyyah call some sahabis mushriks, IF YES WHY DO YOU FOLLOW THESE PEOPLE!
MrMezla 1 year ago
and are u calling imam baihaqi a kaffir sheikh astaghfirullah,
i ask u this question now
plz answer
IBN TAYMIYYAH CALLED CERTAIN SAHABIS MUSHRIK, DO U AGREE WITH HIM?
MrMezla 1 year ago
In fact it is IMAM HANBAL NOT HIS SON, AND IF YOU ARE A FOLLOWER OF THE AHLUS SUNNAH WAL JAMAAT, U FOLOW 1 OF TH 4 MADHABS, WHICH 1 DYU FOLLOW?!
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla he does not follow any i have already asked him this and i was expecting him to say imam hanbal lol
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
we believe allah subahanawatala told prophet muhamad everything so he does not have the same amount of knowledge as allah swt because nobody taught allah swt.
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
Did Imam Hanbals son do shirk?
MrMezla 1 year ago
Lilblitz - did the son of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal commit shirk?
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla SHOW ME EVIDENCE IMAN HANIBALS SON DID THIS?? YOUR kaffir sheiks attribute false ahadith to people if he did this he would have been executed, people used to call on Ali in his time he said I will build a fire and all who say that I will throw them in it!!!
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz so know you will probably argue that hadith is fabricated. and answer my question does the quran contain all knowledge.
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
do you believe that that the quran contains everything.
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
these are the tidings of the unseen that we reveal to you in secret
sura al imran verse 44
also explain this please
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia I explained it 10 times come on its very simple. Before Mohammad sws revelation what did we know? Nothing! if he hadn't have became Prophet by Allah's command it would still be unseen. These matters were: Predictions made in the time of Mohammad sws, signs of the end of days knowledge about the day of judment, junnah etc this was ALL UNSEEN so Allah swt revealed that unseen stuff to Prophet Mohammad sws this does not mean he knows ALL the unseen but what Allah chose to reveal to him
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
yes, we believe the Prophet sallalhualayhiwasallam had the knowledge what Allah bestowed. Where did we say he the Propphet sallalhualayhiwasallam has FULL?
MrMezla 1 year ago
when that ayat was revealed you have to understand why it was revealed for the kaafir. because in the time of the prophet people used to ask the prophet to show them miracles and then they would convert to islam and the prophet said no but when one of the companions asked the prophet revealed so this ayat was revealed for the kaafir
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
yh you think that ayat is unmistakebly interpreted correctly but i have found to other interpretations of that exact ayat
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia OTHER INTERPRETATIONS oh you know what sallam I let Allah swt deal with you every ayat says the same thing very clearly just translated to different words, WA LAWLA QUNTU ALAM AL GHAYB-IF I HAD KNOW THE UNSEEN(IF means what? you dont have! does a rich man say IF I WAS RICH) in the prophet sws last speach he said what?/ I do not know if I will be with you next year, BUT I THOUGHT HE KNOWS THE UNSEEN it is clear your idiocy does not fit
lilblitz 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia ANOTHER THING that is against TAWHEED something that without it there is no islam it is the frst pillar yet you guys dont learn it, part of tawdeed is to believe in ALLAH being the only one that possesses his powers his name is what? AL ALIM THE ALL KNOWING this is a way of saying Allah it is his name actually, so if the prophet sws knew all the unseeen he would be AL ALIM and this is calling him ALLAH and again is shirk is this not clear to you ??
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
u thick idiot, who said the Prophet sallalhaualyhiwasallam had FULL UNSEEN?
WE BELIEVE ONLY WHAT ALLAH BESTOWED HIM!
AND DID IMAM HANBAL'S SON COMMIT SHIRK WHEN HE CALLED OUT OH SERRVEANTS OF ALLAH HELP ME?!
MrMezla 1 year ago
"He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries Except an apostle whom He has chosen: and then He makes a band of watchers march before him and behind him" (72:26/27)
now your thinking who is this apostle well of course the prophet muhamad salalahualayhiwassalmam
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia YOU IDIOT i gave you a clear AYAT where ALLAH swt tells MOHAMMAD SAY I DO NOT KNOW MATTERS OF THE UNSEEN now that is clear and unmistakable no assumptions or interpretation needed yet what your saying I explained he PART OF ALLAH SWT'S revelation is about the unseen for example he tells the Prophet sws about Jannah is Jannah not unseen YES but he revealed the UNSEEN however when read beside the other verse I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN meaning that which HAS NOT BEEN REVEALED
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz Say, "I have no autonomy to benefit or hurt myself, except what Allah wills; and were I to procure knowledge of the hidden on my own, it would be that I had accumulated a lot of good; and no misfortune would touch me; I am purely a Herald of Warning and Glad Tidings to the people who believe."
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia YOU JUST QUOTED THE SAME AYAT I DID THAT SAYS IF I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE HIDDEN I WOULD HAVE ACCUMULATED A LOT OF GOOD you confused idiot I wish u could actually read the language the Quran was written in, THIS ayat is telling Mohammad sws to say he has no knowledge of the unseen because if he did he would have prevented all harm from himself what a silly boy read 10 translations lol u quoted as evidence an AYAT specially revealed to let people know HE HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN
lilblitz 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia SEE what did it say, this translation guy with his clever words to confuse pakistanis look even you will know word for word, WA LAWLA QUNTU wa is and lawla quntu if i had/ if i was depending on the sentence, Alam means what? known/knows when you say Allah AL ALAIM it is one of his names THE ALL KNOWING, ALIM by its self mean knows so very simple IF I HAD KNOWN THE UNSEEN (GHAYB) so how can that be misinterpreted ur going against teh Quran and justifying it n another language?
lilblitz 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia ISLAM S-L-M from the very aslama it means to submit Islam is to submit to Allah but you chose to sumbit to schollars who contracdict Allah swt this is a type of cultural pride about which Allah mentiones in the Quran we found our forefathers doing it, and this is not an excuse the way to submit to Allah and practice tawheed is the only way to be a muslim and if you wish to be arrogant and deny the truth then Allahs wrath is on you I dont care I can only advise burn in hell if u want
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz " the knower of the unseen reveals not his secrets to anyone but his chosen messengers "
surah al jinn verse 113
now explain this ayat to me if you please
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia Do you follow it is very simple and innocent, we know about all the prophets sws about the angels about the layers of Junnah about the dijal about the mahdi. Now think if no messengers had ever came how would we know this stuff? It would be things we cannot see in front of us there would be know way to know so it is unseen. But Allah swt ''reveals not his secrets to anyone but his chosen messengers'' so Allah swt revealed that to the prophets otherwise to us would still be unseen!
lilblitz 1 year ago
I dont want any false HADITHS OR What a schollar of yours has said it MEANS NOTHING IF IT CONTRADICTS QURAN, this is known if a hadith contradicts Quran it is fabricated this is an established islamic principle where there is no argument unless you are saying the Quran is wrong which is what that would imply?? Allah swt says ''bring you evidence if you are truthful'' I gave you more than ten clear ayat forbidding invoking other than Allah now bring me just one thats says you can.
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz which of the four sunni imams do you follow if you are a member of the ahle sunnah wal jamaah.
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia here we go again I smash every claim you make with clear Quran and you start looking for sects, you are diseased and I do not follow any one iman did the Prophet sws say we must follow one of the 4 imams that had not even been born yet did Allah swt name these 4 imans, rather they are all good and follow the Quran and the sunnah but as men they make mistakes so we follow which opinions are most correct and they only differ slightly on matters of firq but not aqida (beleif)
lilblitz 1 year ago
LA ILLAH ILLA HUWA- NONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WORSHIPED EXCEPT ALLAH, and dua is a type of worship I rest my case.'' My Lord has commanded justice and (said) that you should FACE HIM ONLY in every place of worship, in prayers and INVOKE HIM ONLY making your religion sincere to Him Quran 7.29 Are you ready to become a muslim yet so I can call you brother??
lilblitz 1 year ago
good work brother with the hadith, in sahih muslim,
Anas b. malik reported
Allah's Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) as saying: I came. And in the narration transmitted on the authority of Haddib (the words are): I happened to pass by Moses (عليه السلام) on the occasion of the Night journey near the red mound (and found him) saying his prayer in his Grave. [Sahih Muslim Book 030, Number 5858:]
Alhamdulillah we believe the Prophet peace be upon him as the Prophets in their graves are also
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla 18-20 (Al-Jinn):18. “And the mosques are for Allah (Alone): so INVOKE NOT ANYONE along with Allah.19. And when the slave of Allah (Muhammad) stood up invoking Him (his Lord - Allah) in prayer they (the jinn) just made round him a dense crowd as if sticking one over the other (in order to listen to the Prophet's recitation) Say (O Muhammad): "I INVOKE ONLY my Lord, and I associate none as partners along with Him. SO CLEARLY MORE THAN 10 VERSES U DISBELIEVE IN THE QURAN have u no fear?
lilblitz 1 year ago
Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri : Allah's Apostle said, When the funeral is ready (for its burial) and the people lift it on their shoulders, then if deceased is a righteous person he says, Take me ahead, and if he is not a righteous one then he says, 'Woe to it (me)! Where are you taking it (me)?' And his voice is audible to everything except human beings; and if they heard it they would fall down unconscious."
(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 462
this shows that the dead can hear us.
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia Lol the dead can hear us you prat? Do you know anything about your religion?? Allah swt lets the soul hear what is said about him for 3 days before he is buried which actually hurts you because 3 DAYS INDICATES A TIME LIMIT that after THAT THEY CANT HEAR YOU, but even if they could hear us so what? the shaytan can hear us should we pray to him too? Does hearing us justify making dua to them creating shirk Your arguments are stupid as usual
lilblitz 1 year ago
Narrated Ibn Shihab:These were the battles of Allah's Apostle (which he fought), and while mentioning (the Badr battle) he said, "While the corpses of the pagans were being thrown into the well, Allah's Apostle said (to them), 'Have you found what your Lord promised true?" 'Abdullah said, "Some of the Prophet's companions said, "O Allah's Apostle! You are addressing dead people.' Allah's Apostle replied, 'You do not hear what I am saying, better than they.'
[Sahih Bukhari, Book 59, Number 360]
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia Why do you think when the person is dead we move him carefully he even feels pain!!! but this is only for 3 days and again SO what does this mean we can commit shirk by praying to them?? The angels can hear us do we ask them for help NO BECAUSE IT IS SHIRK YOU FREAK how many times in the Quran Allah is SUFFICIENT for us, do you know what sufficient means???? Raab do you know what that means ???? once again how can you refute what Allah says in the Quran surat al fatiha IKAKA NABUHU
lilblitz 1 year ago
"The Messenger of Allah spoke to the People (buried) in the Well saying: "Have you found out that what your Lord had promised you is true?" then someone exclaimed: "Are you calling out to the dead!" The Prophet replied: "You do not hear better than they do, except they do not respond."
(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 452)
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia lol except THEY DO NOT RESPOND, if they cant even respond how do you expect them to help you, use ur brain you lunatic
lilblitz 1 year ago
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TheLrmafia 1 year ago
My 2nd question refers to when Hazrat Bilal went to RAsoolallah sallalhaualyhiwsallams grave and asked for help as it is mentioned in IBN KATHIR'S KITAAB AL BIDAYA WANNIHAYA VOL 7 PAGE 104 (YOUR SCHOLAR HERE HAS MENTIONED IT ALSO)
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla when bilal visitd the grave he said Allah answer me as you have answered Mohammad sws, like in salah when we say Allah bless the mulims as you have blessed Ibrahim and his followers what the hell has that got to do with asking the prophet sws for something you are asking Allah to bless you the way he blessed the Prophets who he loves, not calling on the prophet or in their name or any other shirk, SO MANY QUESTIONS BUT AGAIN AND AGAIN IGNORE THE AYAT YOU ALONE TO WE ASK FOR HELP ANSWER?
lilblitz 1 year ago
your wahhabi scholars have said about physical appearance
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla MY wahabi do i own them do I pay them do i say I am a wahabi?/ I just explained that to you 10 times and again you call me a wahabi dirty tricks are only for people with no points
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
The Apostle of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; so invoke many blessings on me that day, for your blessing will be submitted to me. They (the Companions) asked: Apostle of Allah, how can our blessing be submitted to you, when your body is decayed? He said: Allah has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of the Prophets. [Abu Dawud Book 002, Hadith Number 1526:]
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla The hadith you gave is when we give salams to the prophet sws Allah has granted him to return it saying sws is not asking him for something!!! You are ridiculous we cant agree on hadith so forget hadith since i already gave you hadith about calling on Allah alone, but we agree on Quran so answer the severl ayat where Allah swt said invoke NONE but him, you just ignore the work of Allah swt because you love shirk so much stupid pakis always want an excuse to worship people
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla SubahanAllah I made DUA Allah swt makes it easy to destroy ur argument and I came accross this ayat Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. IF I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me'' Quran 7.188 ANSWER THAT HOW CLEAR DO U WANT THAT HE HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN only a kaffir could argue against Allahs word using fake hadith as evidene
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla YOU dont want truth you want shirk you love it if someone accused me of shirk I would tremble with fear incase I made that mistake for you it is nothing you ignore how many clear clear statements from the Quran and replace Alla swt's word with fake hadith with no authentic narration?? Did you hear of these ideas before that mushrik braevili?? You have the evidence, as Allah advises us to say to the mushriks ''You to your religion and me to mine'' SALAAM
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla “Say (O Muhammad): "Tell me if Allah's Torment comes upon you, or the Hour comes upon you, would you then call upon any one other than Allah? (Reply) if you are truthful!" 41. Nay! To Him Alone you would call'' Quran 6.40 how much evidence from the Quran?? Do you still deny?? 67. “And when harm touches you upon the sea, those that you call upon vanish from you except Him (Allah Alone). But when He brings you safe to land, you turn away (from Him). And man is ever ungrateful Quran17.67
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz "These are the tidings of the Unseen that We reveal to you in secret"
[Sura al-Imran, verse 44]
"Nor will He disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen. But He chooses of His Apostles [for the purpose]"
[Sura al-Imran, verse 179]
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia But you know what I think because I destroyed your shirk rather should I say Allah swt has destroyed it with his clear verses I think like a snake you want to wriggle out and start talking about madhabs now, that is another topic and irrelevant as every one of the 4 imans mentioned do not differ from the others on matters of Tawheed they are agreed and what you are saying goes against every one of them so lets not slip off the topic
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz "There is not anything that I have not seen before but I have seen now at this place of mine, even Paradise and Hell. It has been revealed to me that you people will be put to trial nearly like the trial of Ad-Dajjal, in your graves. As for the true believer or a Muslim (the sub-narrator is not sure as to which of the two (words Asma' had said)
Reference
Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 390
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia OK so u are saying Allah swt contradicts him self is this correct? If you interpret that verse to mean the prophet sws knows the unseen then Allah swt said'' IF I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me'' THAT IS A CLEAR CONTRADICTION!! Yet when interpretative how it is obvious which is Allah's revelation talks of the unseen such as Jannah, is Jannah unseen YES but YOU know about it because it was revealed to Mohammad sws
lilblitz 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia Do your teeth hurt from clinging on to your shirk, I GAVE YOU TEN AYATS THAT SAY DO NOT INVOKE OTHER THAN ALLAH SWT now give me ONE that says you can invoke the prophet sws ?? YOU NEVERR WILL YOU WILL SNAKE AROUND AND QUOTE HADITH THAT YOU CAN MISINTERPRET 10 clear ayat saying INVOKE ALLAH SWT ALONE NOW BRING ONE THAT SAYS U CAN MAKE DUA TO THE PROPHET SWS you actually deserve the jahannam you get because you argue with clear truth even when u know your wrong
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla Quran 7.194 Verily, those whom you call upon besides Allah are slaves like you. So call upon them and let them answer you if you are truthful. DID THE WAHABIS WRITE THE QURAN what now still ur shirk?? Can you not see the truth Allah swt has revealed?? Will you give up your crime against Allah or face his punishment???
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla ord; And those, whom you INVOKE or CALL upon instead of Him, own not even a Qitmir (the thin membrane over the date-stone). 14. If you INVOKE (or call upon) them, they HEAR NOT YOUR CALL, and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you. And on the Day of Resurrection, they will DISOWN your worshipping them'' lol The rasuul sws will disown you for calling on him is this what you want ???????? HOW MUCH EVIDENCE ?????
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla Abu Huraira said that Muhammad said: There is for every apostle a prayer which is granted, but every prophet showed haste in his prayer. I have, however, reserved my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection, and it would be granted, if Allah so willed, in case of everyone amongst my Ummah provided he dies without associating anything with Allah RESERVED MY PRAYER meaning he only has been given one and u pakis call him to help pass ur exams lol
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz IF THE PROPHET HAD AS MANY INTERSESSION AS HE WANTED Y DID HE RESERVE IT UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT?? AND WHY WAIT UNTILL THEN IF HE COULD INTERCEDE NOW HE WOULD HAVE ASKED TO START INTERCEDING FROM HIS GRAVE BUT NO HE RESERVED IT UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDMENT
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla watch?v=bluPpmP4P20
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla Mushrik I gave you at least 5 ayat from the Quran where Allah says call on him ALONE what does alone mean???? I gave you ayat where Allah swt says the ones you call on besides Allah CANNOT help you and CANNOT ever hear you, now what is your answer for disbeleiving in VERY VERY clear ayat, in TAWHHED and in the sayings of Mohammad sws you can never answer it you shayateen your stupid answer is PAK hadiss how can a hadith contradict the Quran what is certain Quran or hadith????
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
The way u r interperating that ayah is going against the sahaba, when hazrat Bilal radialllahuanahu went to the Prophet sallalhaualyhiwsallams grave, did he not know about the ayah better than u and i? u interperate it wrong, and u r an ignorant wahhabi who is forcing to accept the truth, if you are truthful watch that video, they show proof for saying Ya Muhammad
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla HOW CAN YOU MISENTERPRETE YOU ALONE DO WE WORSHIP AND YOU ALONE DO WE ASK FOR HELP explain what is TAWHEED do you think there are no fabricated hadith there were thousands, the whole point on islam is not to take partners to Allah thats what shirk means literally to take a partner when you ask on someone other than Allah you are taking a partner u cant let go of ur hindu roots thats what they do they beleive in 1 god and 50 demi gods they call on under him that is NOT ISLAM
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla SHOULD I COME AND SHOUT IT IN YOUR EAR I AM NOT A WAHABI YOU IDIOT all you are doing is showing that you cannot stand it that you are wrong and teh mainstream is split between the 4 madhabs maliki shaffi hanibili and haniffi these constitute at least 80 percent of the muslims and each school agrees on the principles of tawheed there is no difference in opinion and this is the same views as the sahabba SO YES IT IS THE MAJORITY , or perhaps braevali is the majority
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla I swear by Allah swt I am not wahabbi and have never been a wahabimay Allah swt's curse be on the one who calls me that to lie against me the fact is all of the muslims are against your sect so your diversion tactic is to act like the rest of teh muslims 1.5 billion are wahabis lol every muslim hanifi shafi hanaballi and maliki condem your shirk how come u dont say them you hold on to wahabi with dear life u mushrik because it helps u justify ur kufr to urself
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
i am hanafi also. My brother come on sunniforum(dot)net or yanabiforum(dot)com, pose your questions there you will be defeated, all you doing now is dodging the questions i pose listen now i ask u 3 questions
Is it shirk to say ya Rasoolallah?
Why did Hazrat Bilal go to the Prophet sallalhaualyhiwsallam grave
DO you accept ibn taymiyyah has said bad about the sahaba?
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Your not hanifi, hanifis teach tawheed look up what Iman hanif said about tawheed Ibn Abdul wahab your greatest enimy was a haniffi
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz a wahhabi is one who follows the teachings of ibn Abdul Wahhab, so do you folloe his teachings or not?
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla what did Iman abdul wahab teach ?? He wrote kitab al Tawheed , tawheed is the first pilar of islam so it is not his teachings it is his way of explaining it and every muslim follows tawheed but u mushriks do not! argue with Allah he commanded tawheed not Ibn Abdul Wahab I follow the teachings of the Prophet Mohammad sws and try to understand those teachings how the sahaba understood it i do not stick my head up the ass of a ''mullah' and take what ever he says even if it sagainst islam
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz Abdullah bin Ahmed bin Hanbal (rah) said that he heard his father (Imam Ahmed) who said: I performed Hajj 5 times, thrice on foot and twice on ride or he said thrice on ride and twice on foot, once when I was on foot I lost my way hence I started to exclaim this: O Allah’s servants show me the way (يا عباد الله دلوني على الطريق), I kept on repeating this until I came back on track. [Imam Baihaqi in Shu’ayb ul Iman, Volume 6, Page No 128, Hadith No. 7697]
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia You are giving me now not even ur fabricated hadith any more but what schollars years later apparently said, there is no chain of relation on any of these hadith and they go against islamic principle beliefs and contradict Quran they are not even da'ef (weak) but fabricated anyhow we wont agree on that but we do agree on Quran and I gave you several ayat to call on Allah swt alone but you seem to ignore that the word of Allah swt and replace it with what a ''mufti'' said
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz The prophet sws said ''dua is a worship'' so you worship Mohammad by his own definition therefor you are a kaffir
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
you say i worship Muhammad sallalhualayhiwasallam for saying calling on him, astaghfirullah, when Imam Hanbals son proclaimed Oh Allahs serveants help me, was he worshiping the serveants astaghfirullah, ur aqida disrespects Allah, u say he has physical parts, it is written in the kitaabs by ibn taymiyyah, how he called the companion mushrik astaghfirullah!
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Well i dont believe his son said that but if he did then yes it would have been shirk because Allah swt say's in several ayat which I quoted to INVOKE ALLAH ALONE so I am sure he did not do it I dont care who does it is there someone superior in word than Allah swt DID THE BEST IN KNOWLEDGE ABU BAKR UTHMAN UMMAR OR ALI do it NO! The ahadith they make up are about less known people so it is easier to believe. NO HADITH OR SCHOLAR CAN CONTRADICT ALLAH and ALLAH SWS SAYS INVOKE ME ALONE
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
Abdullah bin Ahmed bin Hanbal (rah) said that he heard his father (Imam Ahmed) who said: I performed Hajj 5 times, thrice on foot and twice on ride or he said thrice on ride and twice on foot, once when I was on foot I lost my way hence I started to exclaim this: O Allah’s servants show me the way (يا عباد الله دلوني على الطريق), I kept on repeating this until I came back on track. [Imam Baihaqi in Shu’ayb ul Iman, Volume 6, Page No 128, Hadith No. 7697]
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla he was talking about the people around him you clown what the hell is wrong with you, we are all the slaves of Allah swt if I asked a schollar now oh rightly guided servant of Allah help me cook dinner is it shirk???? But once he is dead it would be because I am calling on the unseen which Allah said can never harm or benifit you
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
hahaha u r interprating it in your own way lol
MrMezla 1 year ago
Respond to this video...AND WHAT IS THIS BOOK ONE OF YOUR HADITH WHO HAS CLASSED THIS SAHEE HOW LONG AFER THE SAHABBA WAS THIS ARE YOU CRAZY???
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
u r dodging this question
WHO WAS RIGHT BETWEEN THESE THE SAHABA OR IBN TAYMIYYAH? AS HE SAID SOME DID SHIRK AND REFERENCES ARE GIVEN!
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla OK look your stupid or arrogant one or the other There is a hadith from ibn Ummar if one of you calls the other a kaffir then one of you is what he said meaning if I call you a kaffir and I am wrong I would be the kaffir so I am very careful who I call that . Walahhi if you make dua to Mohammad sws then YOU ARE A KAFFIR now one of us is a kaffir explain what kufr I have committed???
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz Answer does the quran contain all knowledge?
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia YOU IDIOT yea it does it tells us how to put NOS in a racing car!!! The knowledge it does tell us cannot be overrun by other knowledge because it is the HIGHEST AUTHORITY so if other knowledge contradicts QURAN then it is rejected because Quran supersedes it! Hindus have a lot of knowledge muslims do not about weird matters does that mean it is superior to QURAN you are talking about knowledge THE QURAN GIVES DO NOT INVOKE and challenging it with a lower source are you that stupid?
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz u r a real idiot lol, plz answer my question and stop interprating the ayahs of the quran in your own way. Now answer this
Did ibn Taymiyyah called some sahabis mushriks, was he right, if he was right is he a kafir for calling the sahaba kafir and if he is a kafir on that basis are u followin a kafir? i will rpely back to your comments ina short while, plz answer my question with references
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Interpret clear AYAT my own way you animal, EVERY MUSLIM EXCEPT YOUR SECT AND THE SHIA INTRPRETE IT HOW I AM SAYING ALL OF THE FOUR MADHABA ALL OF THEM YOU SICK SHAYTAN
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
shaytan is a kafir are u calling me kafir? on what basis? uve called me a kafir so are u a kafir urself now?
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla NO I HAVE CALLED YOU A KAFFIR SO NOW 1 OF US IS A KAFFIR IF I AM WRONG THEN I AM A KAFFIR IF I AM RIGHT YOU ARE THE KAFFIR and ALLAH swt knows best which of us is but think you have does something that Allah, his Prophet sws and all of the ummah agree is shirk which makes a person a kaffir, what have I done think about it I obay all of The Quran, the Sunnah I love all the sahaba and the messengers before I have always kept my salah so how can I be a kaffir BUT ONE OF US IS
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla Name one thing I do weird, I pray, I fast, I believe in Allah alone as Illah I beleive in the Quran in Qadr, in the day of judgment in the akhira in the angels and I CALL ON ALLAH ALONE TO HELP me you dont you take saints and prophets as partners to him so think how can I be a kaffir but think what you have done you have taken partners to Allah Wallahi it makes me almost cry how the shaytan has tricked the muslims into disbelieving in Allah and commiting shirk I wish you would change
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla Wallah I only call you that out of jealousy for Allah's rights and to make you realize not to hurt you think about this. Why do you think Christianity is no longer allowed why did Mohammad come ? Because they started to worship Esa sws and they only said we ask him to ask Allah on our behalf because he is nearer to Allah now you have done the same to the prophet sws what was the point in islam and Mohammad sws said ''Do not do to me what the Christians did to ESA sws Walahi so terrible
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
thnx for the comment, but what i want to say is, I make dua to ALLAH, i worship Allah, All i am saying is , it is permisabble to ask other than Allah for help with the belief Allah alone has the power to give that person power to help you, The narration of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal shows us this, i do not think any other scholar or person has called imam ahmed a mushrik for saying Oh Servants of Allah help me, so how can u and i say hes a mushrik?
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla But then that is not asking him alone and if he alone is doing it why do you need them they are useless if Allah has the power and only he grants it what good is anyone else in that equation? As for Iman Ahmad he said to alive people around him not freaking dead ones look up any interpretation of that outside ur sect which WANTS you to believe that and has an agenda why do u let them trick u and steel ur islam?
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
he did not see to the people around him, if he did, why would people use it as proof for istigatha.
And please answer this
Do u follow Ibn Abdul Wahhabs Teachings
and or Ibn Taymiyyahs YES OR NO ANSWER PLZ
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Can I ask you a question as Allah as your witness does all this sound evidence I am quoting not put any doubt in to your heart about what these liars have taught you as hard as it is to give up something you are used to can you not see the purity and cleanness in the evidence that all religion is for Allah alone all calls all dua all everything IT IS HIS RIGHT ALONE please do not harm yourself and disobey Allah swt and his messenger sws because of these liars
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
what dyu mean what the liers have thwt me, if imam bukhari has narrated it in his kitaab Adaab ul Mufrad and it has been proven a reliable hadith why shall i not act upon it, it is not commiting shirk! now look, u r not answering my question!
do u follow Ibn Abdul Wahhab?!
MrMezla 1 year ago
Ok i will ask you have you seen that your sect have had more dua answered that the rest of the muslims?? Look at saudi kuwait UAE all they have money and good lives look at pakistan it is the worst place on earth rather the palistinians were known for cursing Allah look how Allah swt humiliates them look at floods in pakistan do you think Allah would do that to a pious people it is because of your shirk every pakistani family i know is messed up so how is ur dua helping
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
ur trying to say the rich are better than the poor?
ur arguement is ridiculous as ur 'ahle hadees group' who follow ibn abdul wahhab also live in pakistan lol!
theyre dua is helping aswell
now u keep dodging frm this question,
do u follow ibn abdul wahhab
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla No what I am saying is Allah tests all his slaves with good and bad rich and poor but he honors his righteous slaves would a flood take out the sahaba?? Did yu see how Allah swt sent angels on to the battle fields, did you see how they had their success and were honored after all their hard ship what I am saying is not money otherwise the jews would be best what I am saying is did Allah swt honor you above the rest of us for your dua to Mohammad sws rather ur in a very bad state
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla Sorry one more thing before you go, think about our discussions all you have ever kept chasing after is me to say wahabi or what schollar do i follow or imam ahmad said this or that, that is all you discussed, did I once ask about your sheiks, what did I use as the tool for my argument QURAN AND SUNNAH QURAN AND SUNNAH QURAN AND SUNNAH look at the difference between our sources you keep talking about schollars and I only talk about Quran and Sunnah so which is more near to the truth
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
just to let you know scholars also use the quran and sunnah, only difference between us and scholars is they are more knowledgeble, its like doctors and patient relationship
blandd12 1 year ago
@MrMezla WE can call anyone a kaffir if he steps outside Islam because Allah has made very clear what makes one a kaffir and Iman Amhad would not do this you have to look at whole pictures if always he says tawheed and call on Allah alone and then we hear this it is not in keeping with his behavior so we know it is to alive people, The Quran says THERE IS NO GOD wallah it says that but are we athiests, NO? because f we finish the sentence BUT ALLAH it makes sense You have to look in context
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla When the Prophet sws gave his last speach he said I LEAVE THE QURAN AND MY SUNNAH follow it and you will not go wrong DID he say I leave you so and so sheik?? You are giving these people authority over the Prophet and Allah, THE QURAN SAYS DO NOT INVOKE MOHAMMAD SWS NEVER INVOKED so you are going against the two things he said he left and leaving Islam for fake hadith and paki mushriks
lilblitz 1 year ago
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@lilblitz then it is false so you replace The Quran and the Prophet with this crap kuffr have you no sense
those are the exact words you put to me
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@MrMezla Walahhi if I thought you were a muslim I would not even say one bad word in your direction and I would protect you as if you were my own family, if you committed zina, if you drank you are still my brother in islam and I would not dare to call u a kaffir out of fear of Allah swt but when you call on a saint or a prophet this is taking a partner to Allah and it puts you outside islam how can you be so disloyal to the one who created you? If Mohammad sws was here he would execute u walah
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla The shaytan is a sheik he knows more than any scholar about islam. If he can't trick you into disbelieving in Mohammad he will try and trick you in other ways in the hope he can take u of the straight path but the trick he has used by taking the love we have for out blessed Prophet sws and turning that into shirk is a very dangerous tick but easy to see through and weak because the evidence is all against it, Wallahi ask Allah with an open heart he will show u
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla Whoever Obeys a Scholar or a Ruler by Prohibiting What Allah Has Permitted or Permitting What Allah Has Prohibited Has Taken Them as Partners Beside Allah Ibn `Abbas (ra) said: "Stones are about to rain down upon you from the sky: I say to you: "Allah's Messenger said..." and you reply: "But Abu Bakr and `Umar said you see even peope would try and say ABU BAKR who is greater than all these scholars said, and Ibn Abbas said what he said above
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
In Adab ul Mufrad, with authentic narrations and i can shw u proof for that, it is written a blessed sahabi called out YA MUHAMMAD! so i think ur sying he was wrong. but please if u want the refr. il sho yu that video with ARABIC kitaabs, now plz
answer this do u follow ibn abdul wahhab and ibn taymiyyah
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla All I am writing shows if we follow anyone who opposes Allah and his messenger to folllow him is taking him as a partner to Allah as u took his word over Allah, I do not follow any particular sheik which ever sheik even you if he says something that is logical and it is supported by strong evidence from the Quran and the sunnah and that the sahabbis ra have seen it like this I follow this is what is meant in the ayat ''they take their rabbis and monks as lords'' they follow them blindly
lilblitz 1 year ago
Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal said: "I am amazed at those people who know that a sanad is authentic and yet, in spite of this, they follow the opinion of Sufyan, for Allah (ra), says:" Let those who oppose his [ Messenger's] commandment beware, lest some fitnah befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them" (Qur'an 24:63
Do you know what that fitnah is? That fitnah is Shirk. Maybe the rejection of some of his words would cause one to doubt and deviate in his heart and be destroyed''
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla " They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords beside Allah and [they take as a lord] Al-Maseeh, `Eesaa, the son of Maryam, yet they were not commanded but to worship One God: None has the right to be worshipped but He - Praise and Glory to Him: [Far is He] from having the partners they associate [withHim]" (Qur'an 9:31) a man said they do not worship them The Rassul sws said ''do they not make permissible what Allah has forbidden'' meaning following this is a type of worship
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla On go the circles refuting CLEAR QURAN REPEATED OVER AND OVER WHERE ALLAH SWT SAYS INVOKE ME ALONE AND REFUTING IT WITH MADE UP OR MISINTERPRETED HADITH, ok I worship Allah you worship those who make up hadith halas you cant find an AYAT that says INVOKE OTHER THAN ALLAH SWT but I found 10 which say DO NOT so it is finished, you have submitted you cannot meet the challenge just slither around it like a snake ur judment is with Allah we have discussed all the points good luck
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
So you would show the ayahs to Imam Hanbal if you had the chance? LOL, u r misinterperating, WALLAHI I WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE, NOW PLEASE DO NOT DODGE THIS QUESTION DID IBN TAYMIYYAH CALL SOME SAHABIS MUSHRIKS YES OR NO? AND IF HE DID WAS HE RIGHT
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla LISTEN I DONT CARE WHAT ANY SCHOLAR DID it is not my job to know he said she said Chinese whispers it is my JOB TO KNOW QURAN AND SUNNAH how the sahabba understood it using Quran and authentic hadith that DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE QURAN the vast majority of muslims do they make dua to the prophet YES OR NO??? They never have none of the Sahaba has NOW THE HELL can someone misinterpret 'CALL ON ALLAH ALONE'' where is there room to misinterpret that specially when repeated 100 times
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz Say, hafiz ibn taymiyya and qadi shawkani quote:
"abdullah ibn mas'ud RA reported that our prophet sallalahualayhiwasalam stated: "if you ever find yourselves stranded alone in a desolate place or jungle then say, o servants of Allah! help me allah have mercy on you"
(Ibn Taymiyya al-kalim al-tayyib page 69 and shawkani tufhat ad-dhakireen page 130 ibn sunni imam bazaar hafiz al hasamim and imam an-nawawi all quote these hadith in the various books
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia Yea quote me a thousand more false Ahadith do you think there are false hadith yes or no?/ WE know for a fact there are fasle hadith and the schollars easily say the hadith which contradict the QURAN I GAVE YOU 10 and the SUNNAH MOHAMMAD SWS NEVER SAID CALL ON HIM EVER then it is false so you replace The Quran and the Prophet with this crap kuffr have you no sense
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz astagfirullah did you just read that comment that you just put
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia which comment
lilblitz 1 year ago
@TheLrmafia Yunis 106. "And INVOKE NOT besides Allah, any that will neither profit you, nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the ZALIMUN (polytheists and wrong-doers)." 107. And if Allah touches you with hurt, there is NONE who can remove it but He; and if He intends any good for you, there is NONE who can repel His Favour which He causes it to reach whomsoever of His slaves He will. And He is the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. HOW MUCH EVIDENCE DO U NEED??
lilblitz 1 year ago
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@MrMezla STUPID KAFFIR say wahabbi until your shirk commiting tounge drops out it just makes you an idiot as I have explained I am not wahabi you pakistani robot programmed to say wahabi every time someone points out you are committing shirk I give you Quran you cant answer u give stupid paki videos May Allah swt guide you or destroy you SALLAM I cannot keep my patience with an idiot who disbelieves in the quran and only answer is VAHABBI and paki videos EVEN YOU KNOW YOU ARE WRONG
lilblitz 1 year ago
watch?v=C1PEDFVPCXQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
check that also on your disgusting beliefs wahhabi lil blitz
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Once again uneducated pakistani sect man I am not a ''wahabbi'' my beliefs are the beliefs of the mainstream majority muslims on which there is consensus in the ummah and consensus from the sahabba i do not believe anything beyond that just because you are a sect dont try and label me a sect you break away from the jummah not me this shows ur weakness, the ''wahabbi'' wrote a book kitab al tawheed this is y u hate him ''the book of Allah's oneness'' FIST PILAR OF ISLAM
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
Ur beliefs are not the mainstream hahahah how can it be? Ur sect came 250 yrs ago, and we h8 ibn abdul wahhab because of his beliefs! U can not answer those videos? WHY? because it exposes ur fake sheikhs
MrMezla 1 year ago
another vid for lil blitz, refuted on saying ya Muhammad sallalhuaalyhiwsallam
watch?v=aijUmQnC23w in arabic for u
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla every video is from a member of a sect not a mainstream muslim ofcurse a member of a sect will justify what he does in his sect is that a proof? A dog will justify why he eats his own feces if he could talk, I am asking for proof from the Quran and sunnah there is none except a stupid interpretation of a verse which makes no sense and it strongly refuted by several other verses, the bottom line is if Mohammad sws did not do it then it is not from islam so where is ur argument?
lilblitz 1 year ago
@MrMezla That idiot in the video speaking arabic, you know what he said wahabis atribute body parts to Allah? SubahanAllah, Allah swt says in the Quran ''Everything will perish except his face'' Allah swt refers to his hands several times, we do not know what Allah swt's face and hand is like and we do not think about that because it cannot be compared to ours and is beyond out imagination, but if Allah swt says he has a face and hand in his book are you arguing with Allah swt about what HE says
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
but the way your wahhabi scholars have interprated this ayat is as PHYSICAL PARTS
MrMezla 1 year ago
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@lilblitz 'lil blitz, urshcolar the oneyou love ibn taymiyyah rote about the daughter of the Prophet sallalhualayhiwsallam in his kitaaab, minhaj us sunnah an nabawiyyah that she had attributes of a hypocrite ASTAGHFIRULLAH HOW DARE UR SCHOLAR RYT THIS ASTAGHFIRULLAH
you still have not answerd this you are very good at moving away from the point.
TheLrmafia 1 year ago
watch?v=_cQBifAcpWk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Even when the Prophet sws was alive it was not permissible to say ye Mohammad Al-Dahhaak said, narrating from Ibn ‘Abbaas: They used to say Ya Muhammad, Ya Aba’l-Qaasim, but Allaah told them not to do that, out of respect to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So they said Ya Rasool Allaah (O Messenger of Allaah), Ya Nabi Allaah (O Prophet of Allaah).
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
You are moving away from the point, we say Ya Rasoolallah, is that shirk? tell me plz
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla You keep telling me what wahabis do I dont care what wahabis do they are not my business that id your point? Because someone else does something wrong then it is ok for you to do something wrong this is a trick of ur leaders create an enimy ''the wahabi'' this is what America does finds ''communists'' and not ''islamic terrorists'' to try and justify the wrong things they do, I am a mainstream ahli sunnah wa al Jammat and we do not have any strange ideas
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
what are u trying to implement, that we are ALLOWED TO SAY YA NABI ALLAH? BECAUSE UR POINT IS STUPID IN THIS MATTER, YOU CAN NOT ANSWER THE POINTS RAISED!
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla What is stupid is that u cannot grasp simple points that the rest of the muslims can. I SAID in the TIME of the Prophet sws when he was ALIVE they did not say ya Mohammad out of respect Allah said do not refer to him like you do each other, so they said YE RASUL out of respect. NOW that he is DEAD may Allah bless him to call on him like he can hear you or is present hoping for his help s SHIRK but if remembering him to urself u say YA NABI not intending for him to hear this is different
lilblitz 1 year ago
lil blitz u say it is commiting shirk to say Ya Muhmmad letss look at some ofyour scholars comments
they narrate in the war against musaylimah the false prophet
when hazrat Abu Bakr radiallahuanhu was CALIPH their slogan was YA MUHAMMADAH!
refernces. ibn kathir - al bidaya wan nihaya ibn al atheer - al kamil fi tareekh at Tabariyy - his tareekh
so did the sahaba do shirk astaghfirullah?
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla where is this that the slogan was ye mohammad sws ?? if it is said for example to bring him to mind when remembering with the intention not to call on him this is different, but you people call on him to help you this is shirk like he can hear you, And the Prophet sws said to Ibn ‘Abbaas ra “If you ask, then ask of Allaah, and if you seek help then seek help from Allaah. did he say ask me or a ''saint'' this is shirk the one who does this is a mushrik
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
IN the caliphate of Hzrat AAbu Bakr they used the slogan, all the sahabis along with hazrta Abu Bakr said it, did they commit shirk? please reply
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla When Musa sws asked to see Allah swt Allah said keep your eyes on this mountain and you will see me, the mountain crumbled and Musa sws passed out so how can we try to imagine how is Allah swt's face it is too magnificent for our imagination because we have seen nothing we can compare it too, but how can you say Allah swt does not have a face or a hand when HE says he does in his book and through his Prophet sws
lilblitz 1 year ago
@lilblitz
ur wahhabi scholars have said about PHYSICAL APPEAREANCE! SO YOU ARE CONTRADICTING THEM!
MrMezla 1 year ago
@MrMezla Are you stupid there are sahee hadiths on which there is no argument when Mohammad sws said call on Allah ALONE in the Quran there are several ayat about calling on ALLAH alone IYAKA NA ABUDU IYAKA NESTAEEN you ALONE do we worship and YOU alone do we ask for help. I quoted all of them and u disbelieve in Tawheed the first pillar of islam in confirmed sahee hadith and now in the Quaran and ur season for disbelieving is there are ''PAK hadeess" That contradict the Quran the sunnah KAFIR
lilblitz 1 year ago
lil blitz the rumours about 'uncle owais being stamped as mushrik etc' have been cleared have a look watch?v=HYxHo-pwS7o&feature=related
MrMezla 1 year ago