German Army Luna UAV vs Ariana Afghan Airlines Airbus A300B4

[Nicoladrag]

at the last second, you can just see the Airbus bank right, crew probably JUST seen UAV. dont think its a hoax.

[ipisking]

This would have been the talk of the day at work here at the airport if we would have heard about it. The military before sending anything into the airspace close to the Kabul airport is to inform the tower and we tell them if it is clear or not!!

If the Germans done this with out clearance shame on you!!!!

[Learjetjock]

Wow, quite a close call there. It actually looks like the wing got clipped.

[chestacity4lyf]

wow

[ibo2147]

This may be new german UAV microdrone :)))

[phygos2003]

Close ... very close. Could have caused a terrible aircrash. The drone is´nt so big, but a direkt hit in the wings or engines ... donßt think that much of the passengers woukd have survived. And zhe airport rescusteames + hospitals in Kabul .. don´t think the are so well equiped

[CLK15]

Big oops

[stevefriedell]

all of that computer and radar technology and it might as well be wiber and orville up there. jesus christ!

[ATFSCrash]

This is real life not Hollyweird. Computers and radar are not all seeing and knowing as Hollyweird and many other propagandists would like you to think. Part of the problem is they were too dependent on computers and radar and had become complacent.

[thesupahfly]

Mishap - possibly, ATC mishap if any

Hoax - thats doubtfull, theres nothing funny about causing a fatal airline crash

Terrorism - German army or civilian aircraft? either way i dont think so,

your 3 stupid answers to your 3 stupid questions

[ATFSCrash]

Thesupahfly: At the time I posted it I didn't know if it was authentic or the details. Since then it has been proven to be authentic. Some details in the video description. Youtubers and other people on the Internet have helped identify the mishap/close call. The location and type of aircraft, ect... It is not a hoax or terrorism.

[ATFSCrash]

thesupahfly "Hoax - thats doubtfull, theres nothing funny about causing a fatal airline crash"

That hasn't stopped conspiracy nuts and subversives from claiming ridiculous things like the 9/11 attacks were not airplanes they were missiles or done with demolitions. Some people are delusional and or sociopaths, they often don't care how many people their hoaxes hurt. Some people are so selfish and evil they will support a nutty conspiracy theory and support terrorism and slander good people.

[theunknownknows]

Some, I believe, don't believe the conspiracies themselves, but have other agendas. Mostly racist. Take a quick look. Examine the people who give you free home-burned DVDs on the subject. They have hidden agendas.

[Plasmakarotte]

4 Youngcity1986:

1. There is no Heli in this video, it`s unmaned.

2. The Germans are not "Guest" in this country, they are the firebrigade, police and army in once.

[youngcity1986]

the pilot of the german heli is a GUEST in this country so he has to act like that...

[Plasmakarotte]

Loool, Boy... this is an UAV... There is no Heli in the Video and no German pilot.

And Germans are not guest in this country, they are the police, firedepartment and Army in once.

[deutsa]

Its not a helicopter,there is no pilot .Aufklärungsdrohne .

[4yall]

lol the pilots must've been very scared

[swampghost]

woopsy

[horntail220]

remote control airplane with a camera lol

[BabyGreenEyes68]

Is there an umanned aircraft two proto types that are able to fly like no other planes and capable of flying at tree top level (unheard no sound) and launching an air strike on "enemies"?

[PashMaster01]

Yes, the USAF have one. its called the "Predator". Nice name but its a UCAV (Unmanned Combat Aerial  Vehicle), not a UAV.

[ATFSCrash]

The predator doesn't really operate at treetop level. The only UAVs that I am aware of are not capable of both treetop level flight and attacks. There are some designed for each role, but to the best of my knowledge there are none yet that are capable of both. However you never know, there could be some new secret program that meets all the criteria that he listed.

[PashMaster01]

Well, there are many UAVs. Wiki it, and you'll see. Most of them can fly at treetop level, but there don't like to as its meant to be recon, so they fly high to avoid being seen.

Same goes to the Attack versions. high means safer. And their weapondary systems can go very far at high speed too.

[ronniemania]

hey M4Shadow,u shit, ami`s spend more on charity to the Israely army than the rest of the world for food, after the last few wars it seems u are living on borowwed brains,ill neva come to dat shithole if i won the lottery,besides i registered in india doesnt make me an indian,feels like the twilight zone shithead ATFS my grammer is fine,wanted2say he flies like an americaner.sorry shakespear didnt know u were a spelling freak,u know how2spell fuck but can u really do it

[mind4shadow]

The anger you harbor is spilling out all over your poorly written message. It's rather apparent that your a bigot. By the way....Where did you get your data on charity being directed to the "Israely Army" Your full of crap...again. Americans donate about $260 billion each year, according to Giving USA figures for 2005. Thats more than what the US goverment "gives" to any country combined. YOU STUPID IDIOT.

[mind4shadow]

Furthermore, these figures are donations from U.S. Citizens ... which is independant of the U.S. Goverment. Thats 4x more than all other countries put together. I'm gathering from your retort that your just agry at yourself for being such an idiot...that your only course of action is to write more stupid stuff. Wow your stupid.

[ATFSCrash]

Ronniemania, you hang yourself with every post you make. You have repeatedly shown what an ignorant bigot and how morally bankrupt you are. Washoe the chimpanzee had better grammar, spelling and larger vocabulary then you. You're just one of those ignorant kids that doesn't have any facts to support your bigoted view, so you resort to childish racial slurs, vulgarities and insults.

[muschibyte]

-nice said, and nice vid

[ronniemania]

wonder if the person handling the controls can guide his d... in the right direction, must be an americaner!

[ATFSCrash]

Why are you such a bigot? Apparently you can't read or spell, it says it is a German Army Luna UAV.

[mind4shadow]

Ronniemania said, "must be an americaner"? You dunce. 1. We hold the torch on technology and innovation. 2. American citizens give more in world charity that all other countries combined.

Stay in your country and never come here to poison our beloved bodily fluids.

[CAPTIN777]

This was all fake, why would someone shooting it cut off the other half of the object? Aaha because that person was holding it.

[ATFSCrash]

When I first saw it, I questioned if it was a fake for quite some time. However thanks to viewers providing clues and responses to some of my questions, I have been able to find evidence from several independent credible sources that supports and authenticates the clip. See the video details.

[kinglopez2]

ur moms a RPV lol , this vid is mad wonder if its real. Better be carreful where you fly your planes yall

[Pattii99]

What is that black thing??

[stealthy2]

I believe the black thing is part, possibly an antenna, of the UAV (Un-manned Aerial Vehicle) to which the camera that recorded this video was attached.

[marbod01]

you should just google for luna x 2000, german army

[ATFSCrash]

I already have. Before I couldn't do it because we did not know it was a German Army Luna UAV and a Ariana Afghan Airlines Airbus A300B4. I have been asking people for several years about this incident and it wasn't till recently that I started to get some good clues, however no one seemed to know the whole story. That's why I posted the information on the video description.

[marbod01]

it is the typical luna pilot sight and i heard about at least one nearly crash luna vs civil airplane in afgh from some guys who should really know

(i wont give you facts, classified stuff and i only heard it by these guys, they did service at recce artillery with luna)

[marbod01]

they usually had to do some recce flights around the airport, so they were often near to some civil planes, lunas max ceiling is 4000m, but you aint use it often cause of the image quality, just imagine kabul international airport + a uav at maybe 1000m above ground checking for something + non native english speaking uav pilot, non native english speaking (afgh) air controller via radio

[marbod01]

as additional info:

i'm a (german) artillery cadet, so i met some people from the luna branch

luna went from the recce artillery to "army reconnoissance troop" a newly mixed branch

check out KZO thats impressive

damn 500 char

[SlipknotKoRnfan]

i THINK i may know what this is. i was watching the show "mayday" on discovery channel and it was about an a300 DHL cargo plane that got hit by a terrorist missle on the outer part of the wing. this looks like it. the plane landed okay. but im not 100% sure this is it. it might be.

[ATFSCrash]

Good try. I know the story you are talking about, it was shot with a shoulder fired SAM. There are no shoulder fired SAMs that have color broadcast video. Hehe At least not yet that I know of. It's a drone/UAV/RPV or RC airplane of some type. I even remember seeing that apparatus out in front. I can't remember for sure, but it is something like an antenna, skid, or camera guard.

[DeskFlyer]

Whoa!

[panetrain]

Interesting video. Seems to be legit...

[ATFSCrash]

It seems kind of unusual in that it does not have any markings that I can identify. It does not seem to be edited out. It appears to be an airliner because it has windows. I am not sure but it does not seem to have any obvious markings. That makes me think it's probably not a commercial aircraft. I suspect it is a military aircraft with very subtle markings. Or it is a dreamland flight.

[Tom10035]

I dont know what an "RPV" is but to me that looks like an R/C model airplane, and it just whacked the wing on that boeing or whatever it may be.

[ATFSCrash]

An RPV plane is essentially an R/C plane. What are typically called RPVs are usually professional or military and are usually piloted using real-time video feed. Most RC aircraft are piloted visually from the point of view of ground.

[projectcyclopsrpv]

RPV = Remotley Piloted Vehicle...

[ATFSCrash]

I found out it was a near miss, it didn't damage the airliner, but the wake turbulence crashed the UAV. I added the info to the video details.

[djgregbrowne]

I recon its a fake. The airline looks like a Boeing 767 INFACT, if that was an RC plane it would have been sucked into the engine of the airliner.

Its very sketchy as there are only 3 or 4 frames in this video. More would be helpfull.

Like what the after efects where?

[ATFSCrash]

It is seven frames long.

I do not know what the after effects are. I suspect it was a miss but I am unsure, it looks like it was at least close enough to be caught in the wake. I have had a one person tell me it was in Afghanistan, however I do not know if his claims are credible, however it seems to fit the profile.

It could have been some soldiers flying and RPV survey mission or patrol, that accidentally got in the way of an airliner (that was probably military).