How often does female circumcision happe in the USA? NEVER. How often do women insinuate castration, threaten castration- all too often. This needs to stop. And when I say stop I don't mean go into the closet.
male circumcsion only involves removing the foreskin of the penis. when done by a doctor it is safe a procedure. female circumsion is far more barbaric.5-10 year old girls are stripped naked while some fucking witch doctor take a razor blade and cut off her clitoris with no type of anethesia. then sew up her vagina. these girls often suffers tramua, bleeding, infection, and death. it is designed to repress a woman's ability to derive sexual pleasure while confirming her virginity when married
@mrcharles007 You think I don't know this already? I never said that male circumcision is just as bad, but that doesn't change the fact that it IS STILL WRONG because baby boys don't have the ability to make the choice. EVERYONE should have bodily autonomy!
Personally I am pro-abortion and pro-human rights. I think that society is run by patriarchy on some level, but I think that would be the same, no matter where we lived. That being said I believe in individual sovereignty. I think women and men are free to pursue their own sexuality, masculinity and femininity as they see fit. I think life is about liberty. I think men are stronger than women and it's natural to have some level of male leadership at the top. I have feminist friends.
The fact that you don't think MRA's are actually going out there and protesting shows how little you know about it. Over the summer a man committed suicide via self-immolation to protest our sexist family court system. Also, MRA's are not going to win the day by using the methods feminists did. MRA's will win the fight by raising awareness of the issues men face. At a certain point, a threshold is reached and MRA will become mainstream in the media. Until then, there's no point in "doing things"
@gavnaisling You state that MRA's do in fact go out and protest and raise awareness, and then you lump all feminists into one category by saying that MRAs won't succeed if they use "feminist" tactics, whatever the fuck those are -- when "feminist" actions included getting the FBI to change the legal to definition of rape to include men. Then you say that the MRAs will get somewhere by doing nothing. You didn't explain HOW that is possible. Now GO.
@SickMouth That's nice: Like I said before, you need to accurately summarize what I wrote before I humor you. I am not going to waste my time engaging yet another feminist who misrepresents what other people say.
The use of the phrase "Happy Misogynist" IS supposed to be ironic. There are certain things that ALL feminists are brainwashed into ignoring from the MRA community, not just the radical ones. Watch his videos all the way through for a change. Same with theignoredgender. They've completely changed my perspective on this issue, and if you use your brain and your critical thinking skills, maybe it'll change yours as well. I don't agree with the MRA's on every issue, but this one I definitely do.
@SickMouth He seems like the anti-feminist mra type. He brings up a lot of issues about mens rights to try to counter the claims of radical feminism. I'm not sure if he makes a distinction between radical feminists and more moderate, sex positive feminists like you
I'm trying to get the point across that rape, just like all crimes, have more than one motive behind them. It is not wise to automatically define the causes of a crime in one single, unyielding theory. The Yale article is simply that, a narrow minded theory. Timothy Leary had a theory, as do radical Muslims, and the jury of the Casey Anthony trial. It doesn't mean that you are indisputably correct when you present a theory.
Also, I can see where my last comment got confusing, I apologize.
The Yale article regarding the causes of rape is a theory. A theory is a belief used to describe a certain phenomena, but often has principles and instances that can have many variables that could contradict the theory's main focus. For example, you made an analysis of prison rape victims as the result of their rapist's need for power and infliction of humiliation. That is plausible in many cases, but if a life-serving prisoner hasn't seen a woman in years, what's the next best thing?
@DPL101 Evolution and gravity are also theories. I'm not saying that rape happens because of only one reason and for that one reason alone -- I'm saying, that that reason is the most common one by a huge margin. Besides, there are far too many men who just can't get off by using force on someone. The idea that they're hurting someone, or that that someone isn't mutually enjoying the experience, kills their drive.
@DPL101 That is the layman's definition of theory. The scientific definition of theory is not a belief, it's essentially a well-documented and thoroughly tested fact.
@Akira625 There isn't anything factual that this study can produce to disprove that rape isn't caused by sexual impulses. Psychology, the field used to analyze the study, is not a concrete science. Psychology is aligned with the research of history, religion, philosophy, and other theocrisies. However, sexual behavior in humans is an aspect of Biology, which is a concrete science. Psychologists using their institution's renound name to legitimize a minute study isn't thorough.
No, I said YOUR stance is hopefully pervasive among women. Meaning that men don't need to fear coming across as anything less than the alpha male(macho,socially dominant, adonis DNA). I was referring to shame tactics used by unspecified feminists against MRA's challenging their "manhood." As to the points you said I left out-1.) No shit 2.) Good. Notice I said "many" women and feminists alike will use any petty insult to dishearten men. I wasn't speaking in general terms.
And just to add liamateer. Many feminists argue the exact opposite on your view of what is masculine. I like to believe it's just to spite MRA's, and that your stance is pervasive among women.
@DPL101 So you're saying that liamateer's idea of masculinity is pervasive among women? 1.) You're forgetting that some women are not attracted to men and are in fact lesbians who don't give a flying fuck how stereotypically masculine a guy is. 2.) I don't need a man to take care of and protect me and give me his money -- I can do that for MYSELF. I need him to love and respect me as I do him. Unless you've spoken to "most women," you can't say SHIT.
Dine's "deconstruction of male sexuality" is radical, I agree. I just don't believe the "rape is power" theory that is held by most feminists. It is wildly inaccurate and doesn't solve the problem at hand.
@DPL101 See a link to the Yale University psychology department in the underbar of my video, "A Word About Rape Psychology." The idea that rape is about humiliation, hatred, and/or power holds up very well. Rape certainly isn't about lust.
A very fair video. I'm a man who is pissed at some of the double standards that men have to put up with, and even I can't find many men's rights videos that I truely feel represents how I feel. In fact so far all the one's I have seen are flawed. And you are right when you say they mainly criticize feminism. Sometimes fairly but often not fairly.
If more people (men and women ) had your emotional intelligence and ability to see things from the other side the world would be a nicer place.
@MayAllMyDelusions Thank you for your kind comments. It sucks for men like you who really ARE concerned with the issues they face, and then you have these assholes saying that they're fighting for you when all they're doing is attacking an invisible enemy, as well as other people who are ACTUALLY fighting for you. It's SUCH asshattery.
@SickMouth Well he has a lot of valid points and makes some decently made videos, but I don't know if you could call him reasonable. He is still extremely anti-feminist and I think he thinks there is a war on men. I can actually find myself agreeing with some things he says unlike pinegrove13 who is just a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling.
@CappitranoBellephant Almost every MRA I see on youtube makes some valid point somewhere. But the problem is that it's always used to drive an anti-feminist agenda (based on a strawman version of feminism), rather than actually just trying to solve the issue. MWM sadly isn't an exception at all there. Would be lovely if we could actually have one without the other.
Good video. I have a lot of difficult dealing with some self proclaimed MRA's, there just seems to be a lot of vitriol and blaming of feminism. I do think that just as feminism is required, as a group with a focus on womans issues (if womans issues are not directly addressed they are often ignored or pushed aside) that there is a place for a group with a focus on mens issues. I actually think that the mens rights movement in general is very immature, (cont)
in that it has not got the theoretical background that feminism has, nor the history of research to draw upon. I think a great deal of work into identifying the ways that men are disadvantaged and oppressed in our culture would be a great start for any potential mens rights groups.
Well, I like the postmodern approach. But I don't see why you don't simply consider yourself as an individual with an opinion without taking on the label of feminism, a label that has strong associations with ideas you reject, so much so that you define yourself by that rejection, and a label that ultimately means your opinion isn't simply assessed on its own merits. I suspect a lot of people who do share common ground with your ideas are turned off completed by that tag, suspecting an agenda.
@MrSVP85 If people want to pay attention to labels rather than what I have to say, then they're not interested in dialogue in the first place. There are different TYPES of feminism -- and most are like me and my fellow sex-pozzies on YouTube. We rally around this label because of what feminism stood for originally. Also, feminism has been demonized by the media and the religious right (except the anti-porn rad fems who get into bed with fundie xtians who want to indoctrinate others).
@SickMouth I'd suggest the white feather brigade during WW1 casts some shadows of doubt on the moral purity of what they initially stood for, but that's a different topic. As for the demonisation by the religious right, we don't have a religious right in the UK yet the perception is the same - much of society simply rejected what was seen, correctly, as the lunatic Left.
@MrSVP85 The UK may not have a "religious" right, but it does have right-wing social conservative nutjobs who surely demonize feminism and "political correctness" and other such things that threaten their white male supremacy or white nationalism, or any other type of group that seeks to discriminate against other groups of people by attacking their advocates.
@MrSVP85 That was ONE strain of the movement, and the media gave it the most press without also representing other feminists who disagreed with them. I wonder why that is. I never said "politicians." I was referring to every day people. Citizens. Nice job trying to make me out as a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but you fail.
@SickMouth I can understand the basis for your inference but making you out to be a "paranoid conspiracy theorist" wasn't my intention. You fail in your assessment.
@MrSVP85 Nope, I know exactly how people like you operate. You try to paint us all with the same brush and apply a guilt by association. When that doesn't work, you try to make the person who's challenging you into a crazy, unreasonable fear mongerer. Now, unless you actually want to talk about ALL of feminism as opposed to ONE type, you can kindly go the hell away.
Hence feminist attempts via politics, education, the media etc to ridicule, marginalise and discriminate against men. This is THE MAINSTREAM of the feminist movement - the academics provide the theory, and those in the social positions to do so put that theory into practice. This is how feminism works - there is no great schism between radicals and moderates, feminists cannot exist with out the radicals, and any one reads the theory will realise this.
@SickMouth Prove what exactly, what conspiracy theory am I promoting? There is nothing contentious in what I posted for someone who is familiar with feminist theory, except of course if said person isn't being fully honest. Perhaps you would be so kind as to point me towards some non-radical theory and literature outlining what this oh-so elusive moderate feminism stands for? See, I've looked for it, but couldn't find any evidence for its existence...
@MrSVP85 You need to prove the supposed validity of your claim that a lot of famous feminists believe something, therefore ALL of us have to believe it. There's a book entitled "Eros Empire" by Jordan Owen, and it's been published but not peer reviewed, seeing as this author isn't an academic scholar. And sex-positive and moderate feminist sources that define this school of feminist thought is are all over the internet, if you'd just do a simple Google search of "sex-positive feminism"
@SickMouth Sex-positive feminism is simply radical feminism repackaged for sexually active heterosexual women. I've read and known sex positive feminists - they are obsessed with deconstruction and supposed male privilege, a society of dominant women and "reconstructed" men is evidently their goal. Other than the permissability of heterosexual intercourse, there is no difference. On another note, doesn't the need to define yourself as "sex positive" tell you something in itself...?
@MrSVP85 Your personal experience is not evidence. You could be making that crap up for all I know, so either prove your point with some actual sources that can be shared or get blocked. I don't tolerate hostile arguments with no evidenciary support.
@SickMouth No need to become aggressive, eh? As I said, I've read them too. Do you consider Jessica Valenti sex positive? Or how about French theoretical feminists like Irigaray and Kristeva?
@MrSVP85 I become aggressive with people who imply that I'm a sexist just because they want to cling to a social stigma attached to a label. I don't know enough about Jessica Valenti to decide on that, but I know that she got a lot of shit from radicals when she married a man, and I disagreed with that. I also don't know anything about the other two you mentioned. I don't pay attention to what "famous" feminists think -- I have my own idea of what feminism is & what it means to me.
Your argument here re differentiating between radical feminists and moderate feminists is spurious. Deconstructionist theories are central to almost all feminist ideology wherein masculinity is claimed to be a patriarcal social construction giving men undue priviledge and power which is to be deconstructed and subsequently reconstructed in the name of gender equality.
Shenanigans. You can say that men who criticize feminists are whiners but the same thing was said about civil rights proponents and early feminists themselves. The MRA's you mentioned are not MRA's. They are feminists and Farrell is a humanist. Huge difference. From what I can see, feminists only care about every thing feminine including feminized men. We dont want you to "fight" for us,we just want you to get out of our way. Just because you say you are for men's rights doesn't make it so.
@Eugenepwnsyou1 And just because you say you're not a bunch of pathetic closet misogynists doesn't make it so either. Your point? You haven't proven anything...
the reason you hate mens rights is because you are a bully. the police is obviously an essential job but its a fact that a high percentage of the people who join the police are bullies who just want to have a bit of power
The videos haven't actually addressed anything. Be prepared when you turn your camera on if you really want to make a difference. Take notes and follow them when you speak. Right now you sound like an opinionated teenager with a camera. I think you have good instincts, but at best you've made a social "turn ons and turn offs" list.
@groomedtodie Oh yeah? What does ANY youtube video do? Do any of them really address anything? When people talk about their opinions on youtube, are they doing anything BUT? Also, I don't think very many teenagers are as articulate as I am. What on earth on YouTube videos supposed to be? Mountain-movers?
I hope you take this as constructive criticism and not as an insult. All of these videos are so rambling. You have not researched or hypothesized where and how these social standard you do not like developed. You have taken a clear stance, but you have not made explained why. There are no solutions offered. These are all just gateways for more circular debate. When you get to the bottom of how these social norms came about, and why they have become obsolete, then you can help abolish them. Peace
@groomedtodie How do you know what type of research I've done? Please. And yes, I HAVE explained why -- in other videos. And the solution I offered was: research the problems that the genders face, and then from the data, formulate a plan to right any wrongs. Next time, watch the entirety of the video.
Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world where you could publish your thoughts on feminism without getting a barrage of idiotic hateful comments from people who clearly never outgrew the cooties stage of male/female interaction?
@SickMouth I really feel so bad for you. Some of the MRA's I've been in contact with on youtube are just vicious. You handle yourself well. lol happy holidays
You do realize that "feminism" is a social construction designed by marxists as one tool out of many to divide and conquer the western world, don't you??? All this blather you learned in college from your women's studies and radical social analyses professors is pure social engineering and has no basis in reality. THAT is why a woman who is physically incapable of passing the same physical requirements to become a firefighter as a male applicant gets the position over the qualified man!
@Deimos118: "When my father was in school in Europe there was no such thing as bullying. Today its a problem b/c ppl are far to sensitive about discipline, when sometimes kids need nothing more then a slap around the head. Whether you approve or not u cant deny those effective results."
Well, guess what? That shit hasn't worked. Studies have proven it......(p.s. your dad was lucky.)
Oh yeah - by the way I'm condemned - I'm anti prostitution. If prostitution is involved in the making of porn I'm anti-that too. Sorry just had to make that clear. I'm especially lawful and active trying to help women get out of the field. Still like your channel anyway.
I miss Hannibal. He had great video's. You have made some good points but the oppression of men that forces them to be "masculine" is upheld by most MRA's. They spend all day talking about alpha and beta males. Spearhead (top MRA blog) had to announce they would delete false and unintelligible comments so now I tend to do the same from MRA's. It's silly. Male circumcision is not as bad as female circumcision but if they want to complain I would be fine with so long as they don't compare it.
1: I know you intend well and I have supported your ideas on this sense and probably always will as they seem fair, however you have to bare in mind that feminism is nothing but a form of sexism, not really an ideology.
2: Im sending you a link of a newspaper about this phaenomena feminists here in DK are trying to damp down twisting the data via pm, not the facts I am aware of, as it is not one of my topics of interest.
"Radical" feminism is just a natural consequence of this form of sexism.
@theawesomebeliever No, you don't. We need experts in the subject of how specific groups of people suffer, so that we can better eradicate their suffering. Humanism can have components without clash. People just need to learn how to cooperate.
@SickMouth lol of course you do sickmouth, we must evolve from this ideological stage to something more balanced, more fair.
I understand that feminism makes you feel empowered (so does machism for weak men), however does it make you right?
I live in a country where feminism rules and as a consequence 67% of the claims of rape are false, usually to "punish" some guy not interested on the woman who cries out Virginia Woolf. :)
@theawesomebeliever 1. We can have a balanced movement, and within that movement, smaller operations that research and study a specific form of oppression that affects a specific group, so that it can be more efficiently tackled.
2. Provide evidence for that statistic.
I'm sorry your country has been injected with *radical* feminism, but a DIFFERENT type of feminism is liberating and beneficial for people.
@SickMouth Hi just sent you the article, it basically states that in Denmark every 3 out of 4 rape complains with the police are "direcly dubious" (false) and out of the ones that are investigated (accepted as true by the police) every fifth is not true as well.
So that would technically make it more than just 67%, the numbers therefore raised since the last time I checked, a decade ago.
It just saddens me that sisters are doing this to themselves.
"Give me a single example of something good that feminism has done that hasn't been at the expense of men."
...and I can't help but notice I never received an answer. I would be delighted to hear how you respond to this, otherwise it just makes you seem like you're fleeing the question.
@gansursa "Imagine yourself talking with the opposite gender without any anger or frustration..."
Are you saying that you think I don't do this and that I need to START doing it, or are you saying that more people in general need to do this? If the former, you don't know anything about me. If the ladder, I would agree -- in the cases of psycho MRAs and radical feminists mostly.
@gansursa I was referring to the MRAs that do not want equality. I say IN THE VIDEO that there are those who I agree with like Warren Farrell, but there are many that are prejudiced. Those were the MRAs I was referring to. Please stop reading feelings into my words that aren't there -- THANKS.
@gansursa Just because we are different doesn't mean women and men aren't both equally valuable and important. Why do women HAVE to have children? Why does ANYONE have to have children? You don't get to decide at which age is best to have children. That's wrong and unfair. I'm 20 years old, and I don't think I'd be ready to be a mother -- and my boyfriend is not ready to be a father. There is no "perfect age" to have children, and I don't hear your explanation for WHY there is.
@gansursa It's not my job to prove you wrong -- you must prove your own claims right. Therefore, it is YOU who is being intellectually lazy. I'm done with your unsupported sexist bullshit and your rambling nonsense. You contributed nothing to this conversation except to tell me that all I'm good for is having babies. BYE.
@gansursa Provide me with EVIDENCE for your claims! You can't just say that "it's been shown." That doesn't prove it. I'm not just going to take your word for it. Show me EVIDENCE. You haven't done that at all, and if you don't, I refuse to talk with you further. I don't respect people who don't support their arguments!!!
@gansursa ...Why do educated women have to have children? Why does ANY person have to have children? Let those who want children have them. And I don't see evidence that women are smarter at age 15 than men. Your comments ramble and aren't very cohesive, so I don't know how I can respond to all of this...
Nice video, I agree with many things you said about MRAs. However I disagree with your view on feminism.
Most of radical feminist aren't toxic, they are just funny, they have no real impact. The problems is the lobby in the government. Those have a real impact. And they do not address any men issue, only women.
They do not even seek women interest, they want to push an agenda based on an ideology disregarding facts. Where I live they fight against EVERY initiative for men.
@Asensei That sounds reasonable. I'm happy that radical feminists don't have a huge political influence, and the only social influence they seem to have is just making all feminists look like crazy man-hating bitches. -_-
A man issue that is often forgotten, is to help men taking care of them self. Men put them self in dangerous position where they are disposable. Men are dying much more often the women at work, but those men doesn't really complain about it, they go into the army, etc.
Once again, great video. I agree with everything you said. Ive been on sites and forums trying to discuss men's rights issues, and I was attacked for defending feminism, but I never quite knew how to put my thoughts into organized statements to where they understood. All I ever get is misunderstood.
@LoveAshleyNet You're a perfectly eloquent person. If you were trying to engage with MRAs, that's why you were attacked. Not because of anything you said or any logical arguments you may have presented. The minute you say the word "feminism," they stop paying attention and stereotype you. These people aren't looking for open and honest dialogue -- so don't feel bad. :)
JtO didn't quote mine anyone, he simply left out mentioning rad-fems, because he isnt one. Which makes no difference to the validity of his response, and instead of replying to him, you cling on the that insignificant piece of BS, you people are pathetic!
look, i'm just foolin around but seriously. I'm not understaning this whole femminism and MRA shit. Femminism itself has a really bad rep and it just seems to be causing tension, and ye, a lot of people do stereotype the hell out of it. I seriously don't see the point, maybe I'm an ignorant fuck, or you could explain it to me. I've been reading some of these comments on this vid and others, and the arguments go in circles and never lead to a satisfactory conclusion. It just seems fucking lame!
@ugoodHomeBoy And I agreed with you in my video when I said "I'm sick and tired of this shit," meaning I'm tired of people being ignorant and fucking dumb about feminism and how to achieve gender equality.
Feminists want justice for women? Then they gotta start being objective - with no objectivity there's no justice. Calling yourself a feminist (advocating for women) or a mra (advocating for men) and claiming you desire equality is logically inconsistent so maybe it's time to change labels.
@SickMouth no, I just think any movement that advocates for the rights of only one group of people with a given characteristic is utterly retarded... Wanna advocate for rights? - then advocate for individual rights, that's the only rational/logically consistent approach.
and yes... gay rights activism is a joke and is not taken seriously by most people for a reason - inevitably it feeds into the billion dollar victim industry because the premises of these movements are rotten.
@Sivels The point is that only certain groups can speak for themselves and tell their government why they're dissatisfied with how they're being treated by the law. There is nothing wrong with that, and it's nothing to joke about. If you got rid of all specialized movements, nothing would ever get done to help those groups.
Sex-positive feminists.... you mean whores who are ashamed of being whores and want society to stop thinking of them as the whores they are? Ya. Good luck with that. I'm sure that will work out just fine for you.
I love you I love you I love you... I've finally found someone who can actually tease out the issues concerning men & women without getting into that tired old reactive misogynist/misandrist battle. A comment on masculinity... Rad fems, who attack masculinity, don't make the distinction between socially constructed macho and natural masculine expression. Testosterone does make men more physically robust. There's nothing wrong with superbowl Sunday. It's not a rape & pillage day.
@prschuster One more thing... just as I was getting tired of rad fems and jaded about feminism in general, I came upon a lot of MRA sites. At first it was refreshing to see them take on misandry head on. But I lost.respect for most of them after suffering through tons of women-hating diatribes. It's nice to find someone who can actually discuss the matter.
@prschuster That's exactly why I'm tired of both of them. I think all of us rational, reasonable people who are concerned with true equality and love and peace should give these fuckers their own island on which they can kill each other, because that's really all they want to do. Then us reasonable people can live together in harmony.
@SickMouth A valuable lesson in politics is that the firebrands uauaslly get all the attention. The rational approach is often dismissed as "fence sitting" in their pitched battles. The problem with radicals is that they often think that their issues are the "root" cause of everyone else's oppression. It breeds vangardism and splinters between factions of true believers. I'm 63 yrs old. I've been around the block. I understand how this dynamic works.
@prschuster It makes sense. And because the things these groups say are so ridiculous and outrageous, they catch the attention of a lot of people (because people tend to pay attention to crazy stuff that needs to be ignored for some reason), and thus, the radicals get the megaphone and become the most influential. Am I getting this right?
@SickMouth OK, you're too young for my son. But I'm impressed by how you can size things up. It took me a long time before I realized that true progressive changes aren't fueled by resentment. Here's a thought... there are 2 important areas of confusion that have to be sorted out:
1) men's legit rights vs women's legit rights
2) natural differences vs "socially constructed roles" btw the sexes.
(Cont) The fact that your unable to understand or even comprehend another perspective shows somewhat of a lack of true empathy for those people as individuals and more a sort of Manichean dualism in how your seeing the world. Which leads to you getting lambasted, since your only willing to stay with and demand things be within the box of feminism, your always going to stumble and fail at interacting with and understanding those who are not feminists. Then feminism becomes an isolated bubble.
@TselkeNoddles I understand you perspective. I just don't agree with it. I criticize it constructively. Learn the difference. I never demanded that everything be in "the box of feminism," whatever the FUCK that is. In this very video I said I would work with MRAs if they weren't mostly whackjob do-nothings who have mommy and ex-wife issues. If they actually cared about men enough to ACT, and didn't demonize ONE THING as the cause of all men's suffering.
i think there are lines you dont cross w/ women or men.
reservordawg 1 week ago
I think the top 5% are masculine. Too many female leaders are obsessed with breaking balls. if they would stick to business it would be nice.
reservordawg 1 week ago
How often does female circumcision happe in the USA? NEVER. How often do women insinuate castration, threaten castration- all too often. This needs to stop. And when I say stop I don't mean go into the closet.
reservordawg 1 week ago
male circumcsion only involves removing the foreskin of the penis. when done by a doctor it is safe a procedure. female circumsion is far more barbaric.5-10 year old girls are stripped naked while some fucking witch doctor take a razor blade and cut off her clitoris with no type of anethesia. then sew up her vagina. these girls often suffers tramua, bleeding, infection, and death. it is designed to repress a woman's ability to derive sexual pleasure while confirming her virginity when married
mrcharles007 1 week ago
@mrcharles007 You think I don't know this already? I never said that male circumcision is just as bad, but that doesn't change the fact that it IS STILL WRONG because baby boys don't have the ability to make the choice. EVERYONE should have bodily autonomy!
SickMouth 1 week ago
@SickMouth parents make that decsion because they believe it is healthy( I do not know it that is true BTW.) but that is what they believe.
mrcharles007 1 week ago
the men rights movement have been infested with facist, neo-conservatives, homophobes etc.
mrcharles007 1 week ago
Personally I am pro-abortion and pro-human rights. I think that society is run by patriarchy on some level, but I think that would be the same, no matter where we lived. That being said I believe in individual sovereignty. I think women and men are free to pursue their own sexuality, masculinity and femininity as they see fit. I think life is about liberty. I think men are stronger than women and it's natural to have some level of male leadership at the top. I have feminist friends.
reservordawg 1 week ago
@reservordawg I do hope you're not implying that women being in leadership positions is "unnatural."
SickMouth 1 week ago
The fact that you don't think MRA's are actually going out there and protesting shows how little you know about it. Over the summer a man committed suicide via self-immolation to protest our sexist family court system. Also, MRA's are not going to win the day by using the methods feminists did. MRA's will win the fight by raising awareness of the issues men face. At a certain point, a threshold is reached and MRA will become mainstream in the media. Until then, there's no point in "doing things"
gavnaisling 1 month ago
@gavnaisling How do you expect to "become mainstream" if you aren't "doing things?"
SickMouth 4 weeks ago
@SickMouth Are you really asking that?
Really?
gavnaisling 4 weeks ago
@gavnaisling Yes, I am. You made an attempt to explain how not doing shit is going to get you anywhere, and you failed.
SickMouth 4 weeks ago
@SickMouth I tell you what: Reread what I wrote, and give me a summary of it. If you show you're capable of understanding, I'll indulge you.
gavnaisling 4 weeks ago
@gavnaisling As expected, silence. Farewell.
gavnaisling 4 weeks ago
@gavnaisling No, you dimwit. I responded to you...
SickMouth 4 weeks ago
@gavnaisling You state that MRA's do in fact go out and protest and raise awareness, and then you lump all feminists into one category by saying that MRAs won't succeed if they use "feminist" tactics, whatever the fuck those are -- when "feminist" actions included getting the FBI to change the legal to definition of rape to include men. Then you say that the MRAs will get somewhere by doing nothing. You didn't explain HOW that is possible. Now GO.
SickMouth 4 weeks ago
@SickMouth That's nice: Like I said before, you need to accurately summarize what I wrote before I humor you. I am not going to waste my time engaging yet another feminist who misrepresents what other people say.
gavnaisling 2 weeks ago
@gavnaisling Then explain it to me, since I obviously am misinterpreting your very precise argument!
SickMouth 2 weeks ago
@SickMouth I'm sorry, but if you're going to be so hostile then I'm not going to bother. Bye.
gavnaisling 2 weeks ago
@gavnaisling Lol, that's not hostility pal. Trust me.
SickMouth 2 weeks ago
The use of the phrase "Happy Misogynist" IS supposed to be ironic. There are certain things that ALL feminists are brainwashed into ignoring from the MRA community, not just the radical ones. Watch his videos all the way through for a change. Same with theignoredgender. They've completely changed my perspective on this issue, and if you use your brain and your critical thinking skills, maybe it'll change yours as well. I don't agree with the MRA's on every issue, but this one I definitely do.
jlassie 1 month ago
What do you think of Mr1001nights channel?
epsilon8998 1 month ago
@epsilon8998 Haven't heard of his channel till now. Is he reasonable?
SickMouth 1 month ago
@SickMouth He seems like the anti-feminist mra type. He brings up a lot of issues about mens rights to try to counter the claims of radical feminism. I'm not sure if he makes a distinction between radical feminists and more moderate, sex positive feminists like you
epsilon8998 1 month ago
I'm trying to get the point across that rape, just like all crimes, have more than one motive behind them. It is not wise to automatically define the causes of a crime in one single, unyielding theory. The Yale article is simply that, a narrow minded theory. Timothy Leary had a theory, as do radical Muslims, and the jury of the Casey Anthony trial. It doesn't mean that you are indisputably correct when you present a theory.
Also, I can see where my last comment got confusing, I apologize.
DPL101 1 month ago
The Yale article regarding the causes of rape is a theory. A theory is a belief used to describe a certain phenomena, but often has principles and instances that can have many variables that could contradict the theory's main focus. For example, you made an analysis of prison rape victims as the result of their rapist's need for power and infliction of humiliation. That is plausible in many cases, but if a life-serving prisoner hasn't seen a woman in years, what's the next best thing?
DPL101 1 month ago
@DPL101 Evolution and gravity are also theories. I'm not saying that rape happens because of only one reason and for that one reason alone -- I'm saying, that that reason is the most common one by a huge margin. Besides, there are far too many men who just can't get off by using force on someone. The idea that they're hurting someone, or that that someone isn't mutually enjoying the experience, kills their drive.
SickMouth 1 month ago
@DPL101 That is the layman's definition of theory. The scientific definition of theory is not a belief, it's essentially a well-documented and thoroughly tested fact.
Akira625 1 month ago in playlist More videos from SickMouth
@Akira625 There isn't anything factual that this study can produce to disprove that rape isn't caused by sexual impulses. Psychology, the field used to analyze the study, is not a concrete science. Psychology is aligned with the research of history, religion, philosophy, and other theocrisies. However, sexual behavior in humans is an aspect of Biology, which is a concrete science. Psychologists using their institution's renound name to legitimize a minute study isn't thorough.
DPL101 4 weeks ago
No, I said YOUR stance is hopefully pervasive among women. Meaning that men don't need to fear coming across as anything less than the alpha male(macho,socially dominant, adonis DNA). I was referring to shame tactics used by unspecified feminists against MRA's challenging their "manhood." As to the points you said I left out-1.) No shit 2.) Good. Notice I said "many" women and feminists alike will use any petty insult to dishearten men. I wasn't speaking in general terms.
DPL101 1 month ago
@liammateer That's it, you're a misogynist. Goodbye.
SickMouth 1 month ago
And just to add liamateer. Many feminists argue the exact opposite on your view of what is masculine. I like to believe it's just to spite MRA's, and that your stance is pervasive among women.
DPL101 1 month ago
@DPL101 So you're saying that liamateer's idea of masculinity is pervasive among women? 1.) You're forgetting that some women are not attracted to men and are in fact lesbians who don't give a flying fuck how stereotypically masculine a guy is. 2.) I don't need a man to take care of and protect me and give me his money -- I can do that for MYSELF. I need him to love and respect me as I do him. Unless you've spoken to "most women," you can't say SHIT.
SickMouth 1 month ago
Dine's "deconstruction of male sexuality" is radical, I agree. I just don't believe the "rape is power" theory that is held by most feminists. It is wildly inaccurate and doesn't solve the problem at hand.
DPL101 1 month ago
@DPL101 See a link to the Yale University psychology department in the underbar of my video, "A Word About Rape Psychology." The idea that rape is about humiliation, hatred, and/or power holds up very well. Rape certainly isn't about lust.
SickMouth 1 month ago
A very fair video. I'm a man who is pissed at some of the double standards that men have to put up with, and even I can't find many men's rights videos that I truely feel represents how I feel. In fact so far all the one's I have seen are flawed. And you are right when you say they mainly criticize feminism. Sometimes fairly but often not fairly.
If more people (men and women ) had your emotional intelligence and ability to see things from the other side the world would be a nicer place.
MayAllMyDelusions 1 month ago
@MayAllMyDelusions Thank you for your kind comments. It sucks for men like you who really ARE concerned with the issues they face, and then you have these assholes saying that they're fighting for you when all they're doing is attacking an invisible enemy, as well as other people who are ACTUALLY fighting for you. It's SUCH asshattery.
SickMouth 1 month ago
what about manwomanmyth?
CappitranoBellephant 1 month ago in playlist Speaking, Listening and Learning
@CappitranoBellephant Is this user a reasonable person?
SickMouth 1 month ago
@SickMouth Well he has a lot of valid points and makes some decently made videos, but I don't know if you could call him reasonable. He is still extremely anti-feminist and I think he thinks there is a war on men. I can actually find myself agreeing with some things he says unlike pinegrove13 who is just a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling.
CappitranoBellephant 1 month ago
@CappitranoBellephant Almost every MRA I see on youtube makes some valid point somewhere. But the problem is that it's always used to drive an anti-feminist agenda (based on a strawman version of feminism), rather than actually just trying to solve the issue. MWM sadly isn't an exception at all there. Would be lovely if we could actually have one without the other.
socrates856 1 month ago
@CappitranoBellephant Lol, I'll check him out and see what he has to say. As for pinegrove? Lol. Yeah. You got that right. VERY right.
SickMouth 1 month ago
Good video. I have a lot of difficult dealing with some self proclaimed MRA's, there just seems to be a lot of vitriol and blaming of feminism. I do think that just as feminism is required, as a group with a focus on womans issues (if womans issues are not directly addressed they are often ignored or pushed aside) that there is a place for a group with a focus on mens issues. I actually think that the mens rights movement in general is very immature, (cont)
disography 1 month ago
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in that it has not got the theoretical background that feminism has, nor the history of research to draw upon. I think a great deal of work into identifying the ways that men are disadvantaged and oppressed in our culture would be a great start for any potential mens rights groups.
disography 1 month ago
@disography You are quite right, and I disagree with nothing you've written. Thank you for your support. :)
SickMouth 1 month ago
----For the most part the Men's rights movement is a backlash movement. Good luck finding something more.
IbnSheba 1 month ago
Well, I like the postmodern approach. But I don't see why you don't simply consider yourself as an individual with an opinion without taking on the label of feminism, a label that has strong associations with ideas you reject, so much so that you define yourself by that rejection, and a label that ultimately means your opinion isn't simply assessed on its own merits. I suspect a lot of people who do share common ground with your ideas are turned off completed by that tag, suspecting an agenda.
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 If people want to pay attention to labels rather than what I have to say, then they're not interested in dialogue in the first place. There are different TYPES of feminism -- and most are like me and my fellow sex-pozzies on YouTube. We rally around this label because of what feminism stood for originally. Also, feminism has been demonized by the media and the religious right (except the anti-porn rad fems who get into bed with fundie xtians who want to indoctrinate others).
SickMouth 1 month ago
@SickMouth I'd suggest the white feather brigade during WW1 casts some shadows of doubt on the moral purity of what they initially stood for, but that's a different topic. As for the demonisation by the religious right, we don't have a religious right in the UK yet the perception is the same - much of society simply rejected what was seen, correctly, as the lunatic Left.
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 The UK may not have a "religious" right, but it does have right-wing social conservative nutjobs who surely demonize feminism and "political correctness" and other such things that threaten their white male supremacy or white nationalism, or any other type of group that seeks to discriminate against other groups of people by attacking their advocates.
SickMouth 1 month ago
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So second wave feminism did nothing to demonise itself in the eyes of society? Its all the result of the machinations by conservative politicians?
On another, unrelated note, as "white supremacists" these all-powerful politicians haven't been doing a very good job....
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 That was ONE strain of the movement, and the media gave it the most press without also representing other feminists who disagreed with them. I wonder why that is. I never said "politicians." I was referring to every day people. Citizens. Nice job trying to make me out as a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but you fail.
SickMouth 1 month ago
@SickMouth I can understand the basis for your inference but making you out to be a "paranoid conspiracy theorist" wasn't my intention. You fail in your assessment.
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 Nope, I know exactly how people like you operate. You try to paint us all with the same brush and apply a guilt by association. When that doesn't work, you try to make the person who's challenging you into a crazy, unreasonable fear mongerer. Now, unless you actually want to talk about ALL of feminism as opposed to ONE type, you can kindly go the hell away.
SickMouth 1 month ago
Hence feminist attempts via politics, education, the media etc to ridicule, marginalise and discriminate against men. This is THE MAINSTREAM of the feminist movement - the academics provide the theory, and those in the social positions to do so put that theory into practice. This is how feminism works - there is no great schism between radicals and moderates, feminists cannot exist with out the radicals, and any one reads the theory will realise this.
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 Again -- prove it. Provide evidence for your conspiracy theory.
SickMouth 1 month ago
@SickMouth Prove what exactly, what conspiracy theory am I promoting? There is nothing contentious in what I posted for someone who is familiar with feminist theory, except of course if said person isn't being fully honest. Perhaps you would be so kind as to point me towards some non-radical theory and literature outlining what this oh-so elusive moderate feminism stands for? See, I've looked for it, but couldn't find any evidence for its existence...
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 You need to prove the supposed validity of your claim that a lot of famous feminists believe something, therefore ALL of us have to believe it. There's a book entitled "Eros Empire" by Jordan Owen, and it's been published but not peer reviewed, seeing as this author isn't an academic scholar. And sex-positive and moderate feminist sources that define this school of feminist thought is are all over the internet, if you'd just do a simple Google search of "sex-positive feminism"
SickMouth 1 month ago
@SickMouth Sex-positive feminism is simply radical feminism repackaged for sexually active heterosexual women. I've read and known sex positive feminists - they are obsessed with deconstruction and supposed male privilege, a society of dominant women and "reconstructed" men is evidently their goal. Other than the permissability of heterosexual intercourse, there is no difference. On another note, doesn't the need to define yourself as "sex positive" tell you something in itself...?
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 Your personal experience is not evidence. You could be making that crap up for all I know, so either prove your point with some actual sources that can be shared or get blocked. I don't tolerate hostile arguments with no evidenciary support.
SickMouth 1 month ago
@SickMouth No need to become aggressive, eh? As I said, I've read them too. Do you consider Jessica Valenti sex positive? Or how about French theoretical feminists like Irigaray and Kristeva?
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 I become aggressive with people who imply that I'm a sexist just because they want to cling to a social stigma attached to a label. I don't know enough about Jessica Valenti to decide on that, but I know that she got a lot of shit from radicals when she married a man, and I disagreed with that. I also don't know anything about the other two you mentioned. I don't pay attention to what "famous" feminists think -- I have my own idea of what feminism is & what it means to me.
SickMouth 1 month ago
Your argument here re differentiating between radical feminists and moderate feminists is spurious. Deconstructionist theories are central to almost all feminist ideology wherein masculinity is claimed to be a patriarcal social construction giving men undue priviledge and power which is to be deconstructed and subsequently reconstructed in the name of gender equality.
MrSVP85 1 month ago
@MrSVP85 Prove it.
SickMouth 1 month ago
Shenanigans. You can say that men who criticize feminists are whiners but the same thing was said about civil rights proponents and early feminists themselves. The MRA's you mentioned are not MRA's. They are feminists and Farrell is a humanist. Huge difference. From what I can see, feminists only care about every thing feminine including feminized men. We dont want you to "fight" for us,we just want you to get out of our way. Just because you say you are for men's rights doesn't make it so.
Eugenepwnsyou1 1 month ago
@Eugenepwnsyou1 And just because you say you're not a bunch of pathetic closet misogynists doesn't make it so either. Your point? You haven't proven anything...
SickMouth 1 month ago
i've not seen any mras who just bitch about women. ive never seen an mra like that. give me examples please?
ninjascroll6789 2 months ago in playlist More videos from SickMouth
@ninjascroll6789 Almost all of them on YouTube, really. Can you give me an example of an MRA that does NOT bitch about women or feminism?
SickMouth 2 months ago
the reason you hate mens rights is because you are a bully. the police is obviously an essential job but its a fact that a high percentage of the people who join the police are bullies who just want to have a bit of power
ninjascroll6789 2 months ago in playlist More videos from SickMouth
@ninjascroll6789 Lol, someone who says I hate men's rights when in this video I outright ENDORSE them. Fucking brilliant person you are...
SickMouth 2 months ago
The videos haven't actually addressed anything. Be prepared when you turn your camera on if you really want to make a difference. Take notes and follow them when you speak. Right now you sound like an opinionated teenager with a camera. I think you have good instincts, but at best you've made a social "turn ons and turn offs" list.
groomedtodie 2 months ago
@groomedtodie Oh yeah? What does ANY youtube video do? Do any of them really address anything? When people talk about their opinions on youtube, are they doing anything BUT? Also, I don't think very many teenagers are as articulate as I am. What on earth on YouTube videos supposed to be? Mountain-movers?
SickMouth 2 months ago
I hope you take this as constructive criticism and not as an insult. All of these videos are so rambling. You have not researched or hypothesized where and how these social standard you do not like developed. You have taken a clear stance, but you have not made explained why. There are no solutions offered. These are all just gateways for more circular debate. When you get to the bottom of how these social norms came about, and why they have become obsolete, then you can help abolish them. Peace
groomedtodie 2 months ago
@groomedtodie How do you know what type of research I've done? Please. And yes, I HAVE explained why -- in other videos. And the solution I offered was: research the problems that the genders face, and then from the data, formulate a plan to right any wrongs. Next time, watch the entirety of the video.
SickMouth 2 months ago
Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world where you could publish your thoughts on feminism without getting a barrage of idiotic hateful comments from people who clearly never outgrew the cooties stage of male/female interaction?
RiffingReligion 2 months ago
@RiffingReligion Yes indeed, that'd be fucking splendid. Sadly, most people are fucktards.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth I really feel so bad for you. Some of the MRA's I've been in contact with on youtube are just vicious. You handle yourself well. lol happy holidays
happyperson123456 2 months ago
@happyperson123456 Thank you. :)
SickMouth 2 months ago
You do realize that "feminism" is a social construction designed by marxists as one tool out of many to divide and conquer the western world, don't you??? All this blather you learned in college from your women's studies and radical social analyses professors is pure social engineering and has no basis in reality. THAT is why a woman who is physically incapable of passing the same physical requirements to become a firefighter as a male applicant gets the position over the qualified man!
Crimble67 2 months ago
@Crimble67 Oh, piss off. Wah wah wah, women get to do things that men get to do. Boo hoo.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@gansursa: LOL, you got pwned, amigo. Care to try again? xD
MiracleMile90 2 months ago
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@Deimos118: "When my father was in school in Europe there was no such thing as bullying. Today its a problem b/c ppl are far to sensitive about discipline, when sometimes kids need nothing more then a slap around the head. Whether you approve or not u cant deny those effective results."
Well, guess what? That shit hasn't worked. Studies have proven it......(p.s. your dad was lucky.)
MiracleMile90 2 months ago
Oh yeah - by the way I'm condemned - I'm anti prostitution. If prostitution is involved in the making of porn I'm anti-that too. Sorry just had to make that clear. I'm especially lawful and active trying to help women get out of the field. Still like your channel anyway.
Buntzums 2 months ago
oh god and that apekillsnake. He goes around hating on rape victims with his alternate personalities. What a poser. I blocked him a long time ago.
Buntzums 2 months ago
I miss Hannibal. He had great video's. You have made some good points but the oppression of men that forces them to be "masculine" is upheld by most MRA's. They spend all day talking about alpha and beta males. Spearhead (top MRA blog) had to announce they would delete false and unintelligible comments so now I tend to do the same from MRA's. It's silly. Male circumcision is not as bad as female circumcision but if they want to complain I would be fine with so long as they don't compare it.
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gansursa 2 months ago
1: I know you intend well and I have supported your ideas on this sense and probably always will as they seem fair, however you have to bare in mind that feminism is nothing but a form of sexism, not really an ideology.
2: Im sending you a link of a newspaper about this phaenomena feminists here in DK are trying to damp down twisting the data via pm, not the facts I am aware of, as it is not one of my topics of interest.
"Radical" feminism is just a natural consequence of this form of sexism.
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
@theawesomebeliever 1. Feminism is not a form of sexism. That's like saying that the Civil Rights Movement is a form of racism.
2. I never received that link.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth 1) Well the term has been turned into something else, however, it is soon to return to its previous meaning.
2) I will send it again, I thought I had sent but I guess I closed the page where it was at. My bad. :)
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
@theawesomebeliever there I send it as message to your profile, best regards. :)
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
@theawesomebeliever ......Nope, still didn't get it. -_-
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth odd. Well I made a video today where you can check the links right under it. Hugs.
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
Why people dont just drop this feminismxmachism bullshit and turn to what really matters that is humanism?
I am a humanist, all people are entitled to do as they wish regardless of gender as long as nobody intentionally hurt anybody else.
when you break humanism into its subcategories you have clash by default.
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
@theawesomebeliever No, you don't. We need experts in the subject of how specific groups of people suffer, so that we can better eradicate their suffering. Humanism can have components without clash. People just need to learn how to cooperate.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth lol of course you do sickmouth, we must evolve from this ideological stage to something more balanced, more fair.
I understand that feminism makes you feel empowered (so does machism for weak men), however does it make you right?
I live in a country where feminism rules and as a consequence 67% of the claims of rape are false, usually to "punish" some guy not interested on the woman who cries out Virginia Woolf. :)
We need more humanism, less gender antagonism.
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
@theawesomebeliever 1. We can have a balanced movement, and within that movement, smaller operations that research and study a specific form of oppression that affects a specific group, so that it can be more efficiently tackled.
2. Provide evidence for that statistic.
I'm sorry your country has been injected with *radical* feminism, but a DIFFERENT type of feminism is liberating and beneficial for people.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth Hi just sent you the article, it basically states that in Denmark every 3 out of 4 rape complains with the police are "direcly dubious" (false) and out of the ones that are investigated (accepted as true by the police) every fifth is not true as well.
So that would technically make it more than just 67%, the numbers therefore raised since the last time I checked, a decade ago.
It just saddens me that sisters are doing this to themselves.
theawesomebeliever 2 months ago
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As I posted last week...
"Give me a single example of something good that feminism has done that hasn't been at the expense of men."
...and I can't help but notice I never received an answer. I would be delighted to hear how you respond to this, otherwise it just makes you seem like you're fleeing the question.
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@gansursa I do hope English is your second language... -_-
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@gansursa "Imagine yourself talking with the opposite gender without any anger or frustration..."
Are you saying that you think I don't do this and that I need to START doing it, or are you saying that more people in general need to do this? If the former, you don't know anything about me. If the ladder, I would agree -- in the cases of psycho MRAs and radical feminists mostly.
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gansursa 2 months ago
@gansursa I was referring to the MRAs that do not want equality. I say IN THE VIDEO that there are those who I agree with like Warren Farrell, but there are many that are prejudiced. Those were the MRAs I was referring to. Please stop reading feelings into my words that aren't there -- THANKS.
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gansursa 2 months ago
@gansursa Just because we are different doesn't mean women and men aren't both equally valuable and important. Why do women HAVE to have children? Why does ANYONE have to have children? You don't get to decide at which age is best to have children. That's wrong and unfair. I'm 20 years old, and I don't think I'd be ready to be a mother -- and my boyfriend is not ready to be a father. There is no "perfect age" to have children, and I don't hear your explanation for WHY there is.
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gansursa 2 months ago
@gansursa Again...evidence. You have none.
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gansursa 2 months ago
@gansursa It's not my job to prove you wrong -- you must prove your own claims right. Therefore, it is YOU who is being intellectually lazy. I'm done with your unsupported sexist bullshit and your rambling nonsense. You contributed nothing to this conversation except to tell me that all I'm good for is having babies. BYE.
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gansursa 2 months ago
@gansursa Provide me with EVIDENCE for your claims! You can't just say that "it's been shown." That doesn't prove it. I'm not just going to take your word for it. Show me EVIDENCE. You haven't done that at all, and if you don't, I refuse to talk with you further. I don't respect people who don't support their arguments!!!
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@gansursa ...Why do educated women have to have children? Why does ANY person have to have children? Let those who want children have them. And I don't see evidence that women are smarter at age 15 than men. Your comments ramble and aren't very cohesive, so I don't know how I can respond to all of this...
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gansursa 2 months ago
Just forgot. A good example of what MRAs should be is the Movember movement.
Asensei 2 months ago
Nice video, I agree with many things you said about MRAs. However I disagree with your view on feminism.
Most of radical feminist aren't toxic, they are just funny, they have no real impact. The problems is the lobby in the government. Those have a real impact. And they do not address any men issue, only women.
They do not even seek women interest, they want to push an agenda based on an ideology disregarding facts. Where I live they fight against EVERY initiative for men.
Asensei 2 months ago
@Asensei That sounds reasonable. I'm happy that radical feminists don't have a huge political influence, and the only social influence they seem to have is just making all feminists look like crazy man-hating bitches. -_-
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth
You might be interested in what could be the 4th wave of feminism. Look at that video : p0sj6upugy4
It seems that have a rational side like you and seems to have a similar values.
Asensei 2 months ago
@SickMouth
Part 2
Biological because women are the limiting factor in reproduction (for the survival of a species point of view) while men are more disposable.
This is also a social thing too. Women and children first is an exemple and the fact that in the US only men condamned to death are killed not woman.
Asensei 2 months ago
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Part 1
A man issue that is often forgotten, is to help men taking care of them self. Men put them self in dangerous position where they are disposable. Men are dying much more often the women at work, but those men doesn't really complain about it, they go into the army, etc.
This could be a biological and social thing.
Asensei 2 months ago
Once again, great video. I agree with everything you said. Ive been on sites and forums trying to discuss men's rights issues, and I was attacked for defending feminism, but I never quite knew how to put my thoughts into organized statements to where they understood. All I ever get is misunderstood.
LoveAshleyNet 2 months ago
@LoveAshleyNet You're a perfectly eloquent person. If you were trying to engage with MRAs, that's why you were attacked. Not because of anything you said or any logical arguments you may have presented. The minute you say the word "feminism," they stop paying attention and stereotype you. These people aren't looking for open and honest dialogue -- so don't feel bad. :)
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@gansursa ...Okay. You're a psycho.
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gansursa 2 months ago
JtO didn't quote mine anyone, he simply left out mentioning rad-fems, because he isnt one. Which makes no difference to the validity of his response, and instead of replying to him, you cling on the that insignificant piece of BS, you people are pathetic!
nk171283 2 months ago
@nk171283 Your logic simply doesn't stand up to WatcherAzrael's.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth Logic and WatcherAzrael are mutually exclusive things...
leostomicek 2 months ago
@leostomicek Explain why. You need to back up your claims.
SickMouth 2 months ago
look, i'm just foolin around but seriously. I'm not understaning this whole femminism and MRA shit. Femminism itself has a really bad rep and it just seems to be causing tension, and ye, a lot of people do stereotype the hell out of it. I seriously don't see the point, maybe I'm an ignorant fuck, or you could explain it to me. I've been reading some of these comments on this vid and others, and the arguments go in circles and never lead to a satisfactory conclusion. It just seems fucking lame!
ugoodHomeBoy 2 months ago
@ugoodHomeBoy And I agreed with you in my video when I said "I'm sick and tired of this shit," meaning I'm tired of people being ignorant and fucking dumb about feminism and how to achieve gender equality.
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gansursa 2 months ago
Feminists want justice for women? Then they gotta start being objective - with no objectivity there's no justice. Calling yourself a feminist (advocating for women) or a mra (advocating for men) and claiming you desire equality is logically inconsistent so maybe it's time to change labels.
Sivels 2 months ago
@Sivels So do you also think that calling yourself an LGBTQ rights activist means you don't give a shit about heterosexual people?
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth no, I just think any movement that advocates for the rights of only one group of people with a given characteristic is utterly retarded... Wanna advocate for rights? - then advocate for individual rights, that's the only rational/logically consistent approach.
and yes... gay rights activism is a joke and is not taken seriously by most people for a reason - inevitably it feeds into the billion dollar victim industry because the premises of these movements are rotten.
Sivels 2 months ago
@Sivels The point is that only certain groups can speak for themselves and tell their government why they're dissatisfied with how they're being treated by the law. There is nothing wrong with that, and it's nothing to joke about. If you got rid of all specialized movements, nothing would ever get done to help those groups.
SickMouth 2 months ago
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Sex-positive feminists.... you mean whores who are ashamed of being whores and want society to stop thinking of them as the whores they are? Ya. Good luck with that. I'm sure that will work out just fine for you.
bweazel 2 months ago
@bweazel Aww, did I make the sad little misogynist angwry?
SickMouth 2 months ago
I love you I love you I love you... I've finally found someone who can actually tease out the issues concerning men & women without getting into that tired old reactive misogynist/misandrist battle. A comment on masculinity... Rad fems, who attack masculinity, don't make the distinction between socially constructed macho and natural masculine expression. Testosterone does make men more physically robust. There's nothing wrong with superbowl Sunday. It's not a rape & pillage day.
prschuster 2 months ago
@prschuster One more thing... just as I was getting tired of rad fems and jaded about feminism in general, I came upon a lot of MRA sites. At first it was refreshing to see them take on misandry head on. But I lost.respect for most of them after suffering through tons of women-hating diatribes. It's nice to find someone who can actually discuss the matter.
prschuster 2 months ago
@prschuster That's exactly why I'm tired of both of them. I think all of us rational, reasonable people who are concerned with true equality and love and peace should give these fuckers their own island on which they can kill each other, because that's really all they want to do. Then us reasonable people can live together in harmony.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth A valuable lesson in politics is that the firebrands uauaslly get all the attention. The rational approach is often dismissed as "fence sitting" in their pitched battles. The problem with radicals is that they often think that their issues are the "root" cause of everyone else's oppression. It breeds vangardism and splinters between factions of true believers. I'm 63 yrs old. I've been around the block. I understand how this dynamic works.
prschuster 2 months ago
@prschuster It makes sense. And because the things these groups say are so ridiculous and outrageous, they catch the attention of a lot of people (because people tend to pay attention to crazy stuff that needs to be ignored for some reason), and thus, the radicals get the megaphone and become the most influential. Am I getting this right?
SickMouth 2 months ago
@prschuster Lol, I would say I love you back but I don't "know you like that," teehee! :P And you're right about masculinity there.
SickMouth 2 months ago
@SickMouth OK, you're too young for my son. But I'm impressed by how you can size things up. It took me a long time before I realized that true progressive changes aren't fueled by resentment. Here's a thought... there are 2 important areas of confusion that have to be sorted out:
1) men's legit rights vs women's legit rights
2) natural differences vs "socially constructed roles" btw the sexes.
prschuster 2 months ago
@prschuster Too true.
SickMouth 2 months ago
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gansursa 2 months ago
@gansursa "Just look around it's easy to see" is not a valid argument.
SickMouth 2 months ago
(Cont) The fact that your unable to understand or even comprehend another perspective shows somewhat of a lack of true empathy for those people as individuals and more a sort of Manichean dualism in how your seeing the world. Which leads to you getting lambasted, since your only willing to stay with and demand things be within the box of feminism, your always going to stumble and fail at interacting with and understanding those who are not feminists. Then feminism becomes an isolated bubble.
TselkeNoddles 2 months ago
@TselkeNoddles I understand you perspective. I just don't agree with it. I criticize it constructively. Learn the difference. I never demanded that everything be in "the box of feminism," whatever the FUCK that is. In this very video I said I would work with MRAs if they weren't mostly whackjob do-nothings who have mommy and ex-wife issues. If they actually cared about men enough to ACT, and didn't demonize ONE THING as the cause of all men's suffering.
SickMouth 2 months ago