The Rapture And The Tribulation 1/4

[ANT2DR]

I AGREE GOD BLESS YOU THANK YOU FOR TELL THE TRUTH

[777denny1]

I have written to over 1,000 so-called 'Christian' organizations warning them to fear their Creator like Yahuah COAMMANDED of all men to do. Those who chose to teach the pre-tribulation "rapture" WILL suffer the Wrath of Yahuah, Yahusha warning the HEARERS of the prophecy of the book of Revelation not to add or take away from the prophecy, or face the Wrath of Yahuah. Those who CHOOSE to only 'revere' Yahuah will soon find out what fearing their Creator is all about.

Thanks, 777denny

[rossdaboss1959]

That's not truth at all. The rapture makes a person live each and everyday like it's his last day. Nobody is at ease. When we see an increase of earthquakes and all that is going on today, that only let's us know that the time is getting closer. If u don't believe, why do u hate somebody that believes? I don't hate u believe u can't see it the way i do. I do know if u get on your knees and truly pray and ask God to show u, i believe he will. Acts 2:38 is still the way God chose to be saved.

[X1danno1]

Great video! Tired of all the pre-trib videos decieving people.

[christianissues]

Yes, I agree 100%. My goal is to get believers prepared, through a strong relationship with the Lord, so that they do not fall away as it says in Matt. 24:10.

[rossdaboss1959]

The most important thing is God's plan of salvation according to acts 2:38. If u don't have it, it don't matter what time the rapture takes place you're not going. Read Romans 8:9-11 the devil shall not prevail against the church, but during the tribulation period, the devil is going to overcome the saints. God is not giving the church power over the devil and then take it away during the tribulation. The church is not Israel and Israel is not the church. Romans 11:1-2, 25

[kforever31]

The Lords return will come UNEXPECTEDLY. And when people are saying everything is PEACEFUL and SECURE.

Therefore it can't come "unexpectedly" and during a time of "peace" if there is chaos in the world. Verse 9 says: God is not going to pour His ANGER out on us.

So we will be spared from the days of Tribulation because He will deliver us.

We are suppose to encourage each other with these words. -Verse 11

[christianissues]

Yes, you are right in that the Lord will come like a thief but not to the saved. Read 1 Thess 5:4-6 carefully and you will see that only the unsaved will be surprised. Jesus said in Matt 24:25 that He has told us all these things ahead of time so that we will be prepared. 1 Thess 5:9 says that we will not suffer God's wrath because He will rapture us before He pours it out on the unsaved and this is when they will be caught like a thief ... not expecting His return.

[kforever31]

8 But let us who live in the light be clearheaded, protected by the armor of faith and love, and wearing as our helmet the confidence of our salvation. 9 For God chose to save us through our Lord Jesus Christ, not to pour out his anger on us. 10 Christ died for us so that, whether we are dead or alive when he returns, we can live with him forever. 11 So encourage each other and build each other up, just as you are already doing.

[kforever31]

4 But you arent in the dark about these things, dear brothers and sisters, and you wont be surprised when the day of the Lord comes like a thief.[b] 5 For you are all children of the light and of the day; we dont belong to darkness and night. 6 So be on your guard, not asleep like the others. Stay alert and be clearheaded. 7 Night is the time when people sleep and drinkers get drunk.

[kforever31]

1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 (NLT)

2 For you know quite well that the day of the Lords return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night. 3 When people are saying, Everything is peaceful and secure, then disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant womans labor pains begin. And there will be no escape.

This will be when the Tribulation is upon us. You must have peace with that becuz you are a believer and you will not have to suffer thru it.

Read on thru the rest of the verses....

[kforever31]

Well how is He suppose to come as a "thief in the night" if EVERY eye will see him? It's because it is 2 different events. The 1st time He comes will be so quick that no one here left in earth will actually see Him, but yes during the 2nd coming is when "every eye WILL see him" becuz this time He will not remain in the clouds but will actually come down with His armies to defeat the Anti-Christ.

[kforever31]

The "Rapture" will occur when Jesus Christ returns for his church. This is when all true believers in Christ will be taken from the earth by God into heaven (1 Corinthians 15:51-52; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

The "Second Coming" is when Jesus Christ returns "with the church" to defeat the antichrist, overthrow evil and then establish His thousand year reign (Revelation 19:11-16).

[christianissues]

I understand what you say as I used to believe it myself. The fact is that there is not a verse in the Bible to say that the Rapture will be before the Anthchrist appears .... not one. If you look a my 4 videos on the Rapture plus Jesus' Second Coming and Is The Rapture Imminent you will see my position clearer. One thing, everything Paul said about the Rapture is modelled on Matt 24. Paul merely expanded on what Jesus said about His Return.

[kforever31]

Do a search for "Rapture and the Second Coming" and you will find what you need with all the scriptures explaining that it is 2 separate events.

May God Bless you all as you seek the truth & remember that the MOST IMPORTANT thing is that we are SAVED when He returns....

[kforever31]

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.

[firedream18]

What this talks about here is the "2nd Coming" of Christ which is after the Tribulation Period. But the "Rapture" is a separate event that happens way before the Tribulation.

[christianissues]

Yes, I am aware that many say it is a separate event and I used to think that way also. There is an offer of $5000 (perhaps $10,000 now) to anyone who can show one verse which says that the Rapture is before the Great Tribulation. If you look at all 4 parts of my videos plus Jesus' Second Coming and Is The Rapture Imminent you will see why I believe that the church will see the Antichrist.

[Truthseeker424]

@christianissues You are a 100% right on this comment here, as far as when the rapture will take place. I'm going to watch your videos and see how much truth is in them. God bless you brother.I like MAth.24:29-31;Rev.13:5,7-10; 1Thes.4:16-17; 1Thes.5:23. God bless you. Now what about baptism? Acts2:38...

[jennysgp92]

I am not disputing, I am so confused with this. I have a question. When the bible says one will be taken one left, How do you figure he is taking the church, because when the apostles asked where are they taken if you keep reading, Jesus doesn't give a very happy answer to that. It seems that the wicked are taken there. What are your thoughts on that?

[christianissues]

If you look at my video The Rapture and Gt. Trib Part 4 it will partly answer your question. When you look closely at the Greek meaning behind the words 'taken and left' you will find that taken means received to (Jesus) and left means abandoned so the saved are rescued and the unsaved left for destruction. Regarding the vulture and the carcass - I see the saved as going to where the vulture is, that is, in the air/clouds while the carcass is the destruction of the unsaved. Does this make sense?

[jennysgp92]

Yes, it does. I have heard really good arguments of scriptures for both views so I am still confused but I guess it doesn't really matter as long as we are in Christ, He will see us through it all.

[christianissues]

Amen, ask the Lord to keep you through whatever He puts before us, even the Great Trib. Another point - Look at both Matt 24:39 and Luke 17:27 and you will see that the unsaved were taken by the flood and destroyed, not taken away and destroyed but destroyed right where they were ... just as it was in the days of Lot, the righteous were removed and the unrighteous destroyed where they were.

[ALittleBrother]

really enjoyed this video. It's quality is first rate and you could not have chosen a more fitting background music. I can only surmise that the pre-tribbers who will die defending their beliefs must somehow think themselves to be so much better than Paul, Peter, James and many others for whom it was God's will that they become marytrs. How very special to God they must be. Great video.

[altorstenlinton]

Only the Luke quotation ends with a discussion of dead bodies and carrion eating birds. This evidently means that these who are "seized or arrested" are taken off and killed. Note the context the warning about fleeing in verse 31. I'm sorry I can't accept ur vid response to mine. If u want to discuss on my page u are more than welcome. I don't accept vids that goes to the opposite to the message I preach. Thank u take care.

[christianissues]

Your admission that Mat. 24:40-41 is the Rapture is the downfall of your argument as the previous verse (v.39) says that this will happen at the coming [parousia] of the Son of Man. The Greek word parsouia describes Jesus' physical return to earth. There is only one parousia and the same word is used in vs.27-31. In these verses Jesus comes on the clouds, with a trumpet call and like lightening (not secretly), to gather His elect. My video Jesus' Second Coming covers this point.

[gw197234]

Exactly right Christianissues! The verse DOES NOT say he will rapture his elect into Heaven,

The Bible clearly shows the "elect" are already in Heaven and I quote, and he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER" If the born-again Christian are the elect, where are the elect in this verse and how did they get in Heaven? These verses are the 2nd coming (Jesus on Earth) not the rapture.

[altorstenlinton]

No such warning about fleeing is given in the above verses. There is no mention of dead bodies being eaten by birds. The disciples do not ask "Where, Lord?" in Matthew 24:37-42, and this was not an error by Matthew in writing his gospel.This is a different speech made at a different time and in a different place . The above words do not warn us to watch out for the "antichrist police" who are coming to get us but they do warn us to Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

[altorstenlinton]

Also Note how Mat and Luke ended in Mat after Jesus said taken and left. In Mat verse 42"you don't know the hr ur lord comes". That ties with the Rapture. Luke after the verse taken and left "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together" Not the Rapture similarity. Because just before Jesus said that the disciples asked "Where Lord" and that was Jesus reply if that was the Rapture "taken" obviously it would be heaven but no reference of heaven is mention.

[altorstenlinton]

Hello how r u. Mat 24:30-31 is not the Rapture. mat 24:40-41 is the Rapture. Luke 17:34 is not the Rapture The word taken used in luke there and Matthew is 2 completely different Greek words. Luke the word use for taken is paralhfyhsetai and in Mat paralambanetai pronounced same way but spell differently. The same goes the word left used on both Luke and Mat is different also. Taken in Mat is "Received" Luke Taken "seized". We are received up to heaven as Jesus did Mark 16:19

[LostProphecy777]

There is no such thing as the rapture altorstenlinton....read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 Paul writes..."WE SHALL NOT GATHER BACK TO CHRIST...UNTIL!!! AFTER!!! the devil is here claiming to be God putting himself ABOVE GOD!" Its written right there in black and white friend.