Actually aside from the hard drive, cleaning boards in soap and water is not uncommon most factories do this. As long as no power is going through the board it is safe, and you must let them dry completely before applying power. The hard drive on the other hand have air holes which would allow water inside and possibly take a very long time to dry completely. But if it's not for you simply clean your boards another way.
i cant understand why you didnt show us the finished product??..it back in the case and running??why??..because this video is fake..dont ever do this.
Yes, this method may clean motherboards and they may all power up and work fine afterwards. However I sure washing in tap water and force drying with a heat gun will shorten the life of the board.
If you resell these on eBay can you post back with your seller id so we can all avoid.
Everyone who thinks that the person doing this is ruining these boards is an idiot. You can actually run motherboards and other printed circuit boards through the dishwasher with no problem, although I wouldn't use the dishwasher to dry them unless you were air drying.
But anyway go talk to any extreme overclockers who have to wash various insulators off of their boards, this and similar methods are primarily what you'll find being used.
How it is possible to keep the motherboard safe if you use water and heat gun on it. It simply doesn't make sense. Water can cause a corrosion to the motherboard as far as I know. Eduard.
Wash the motherboard, XD. Why do you think when your ipod goes through the wash and you let it dry and it doesnt work? This video is the same scenario with the motherboard. Fuck You sir.
@ReCkLeSsErr0r You are an idiot. The iPod has an intergrated battery and older models have a hard drive. Thus water is going to either kill the hard drive or short something. A motherboard does not suffer the same problem. Trust me this works.
@ReCkLeSsErr0r Kinda funny how it isn't. I don't usually get into this forum arguing bullshit but you are quite simply incredibly wrong and you are coming across as a very stupid person. I don't know if you are trying to sound like an idiot but you do. I fix computers for a living. I've done component level repair on motherboards many times. If you discharge the capacitors and pull the power and bios battery there is no voltage you mook.
I work at a computer company called Uniway Computers based in edmonton, I do know what I am talking about, and I am talking about an ipod not a motherboard you retard.
@ReCkLeSsErr0r The same Uniway Computers with a 1 star rating on Yelp? I have washed a motherboard before so I know it does not ruin them. If you are an extreme overclocker you have to insulate your board from condensation. The materials used are usually pretty messy and this is the only way to clean them. So I will repeat one more time, I have done this, others have done this, it works fine and if you really are a computer technician you must suck to not know this.
@ReCkLeSsErr0r A clever ploy to keep me from embarrassing you further but unfortunately you have all the intelligence of a moldy mayonnaise so your plan fell through.
one way to f up a board, number one do not expose to water, and another heat gun will cause capacitors to explode at a temp greater than 105 degrees I am a tv technician take my advice this guy is a dumbnut do not buy refurbished boards from him. air duster would be the way to go.. i am sure the seal has opened on the hdd and exposed it to humid air the heads in it will soon crash.
one way to f up a board, number one do not expose to water, and another heat gun will cause capacitors to explode at a temp greater than 105 degrees I am a tv technician take my advice this guy is a dumbnut do not buy refurbished boards from him. air duster would be the way to go..
Don't never ever do what this guy is doing. I have been in the IT business for over 15 years, and have never heard of any computer mfg recommend this method of cleaning. There are safer ways to clean a motherboard.
If you want to get them wet Just use contact cleaner. Other wise plain tap water will ruin integrated circuits because of the minerals in it. To dry a mobo do not use a heat gun 1" from the board just place it on counter to air dry for the day. Your video is bullshit
@littlewazz nope, it works. I just forgot to enter warning text "Not to use by stupid people with dirty tap water and damaged hot air guns and no brains".
you're going to end up melting the RAM and PCI slots, plastic melts at much lower temp than solder. and the capacitors are definately going to be damaged after washing and heating like that.
@expertprogrammer Currently our company use 3 apple cinema monitors (there is small review in my web), one macbook air, one another apple notebook, one imac and last week we bought MacPro (like server, with dual xeon cpu) I think we have 3 iphone (old generations). Also we have about 30 PC windows systems, and two i7 servers. And several pizza box size PC running as advanced routers. Lots of working computers.... And we recycle several metric tons of computers per week.
Heatgun not going to destroy the board, at 125-130C is ok. so long not done over a extended period of time and the gun keep moving in diiffernt areas, I do this myseft before I replace any components like capacitors and ETC, it makes it easy to desolder without damaging the traces and keep the board from warping when I do a reflow.
Water alone does not cause corrosion, but hydrogen atoms present in water can combine with other elements to form acids do and never put a harddrive in water.
You showed us how to wash and dry a motherboard, nor to refurbish and repair. And water will only damage electric components if electricity is passed through when they are wet. Using a compressor can create static electricity.
The bath you gave the boards didn't bother me anywhere near as much as the heat gun... I mean, come on... instead of torching the board like that, don't you think a hair dryer from a little more distance or an air compressor followed by leaving the board in a well-ventilated room would have been much less stressful on it and the components? Hot soldering irons have been known to damage traces, and you're holding a heat gun within an inch from many of the chips for extended periods of time!
@TortureBot control temperature and that all. Rohs compliant PCB and components must withstand 200oC or more for some period of time. Air compressors tend to spit water, oil and sometimes they can blow of components. Also, compressed air can not get under BGA. So do not use hot air gun (without thermocontrol) "for extended periods of time".
Everybody is reccomended to read PCB populating and soldering datasheet before writting comments.
@savelkaunas Never blew a component off a circuit board before with compressed air. Maybe a sticker or two. And if you're worried about water (couldn't tell that from the vid?), and oil, then a good filter usually removes 99% of that. I've just always known high heat to kill components or at least reduce their life expectancy. And sorry I didn't browse the "datasheet" before I posted. It wasn't in the video's description as required reading.
KIDS, this is JOKE VIDEO... DO NOT wash boards in such a manner, use a wet paper towel to remove dust, and if needed, hair dryer, but dust is not a big concern that you need to wash the boards, just the heat sinks!!
Yes You Can wash any Circuit but Remember use Clean water and remove battery if present in the circuit to avoid damage to the circuit, Use hot air dryer to dry fast!!
also remove and any light material lke paper or anything that disolve with water
really no good way of cleaning. if you plan to do so, please:
- only use destilated water oder isopropanol (normal water has minerals in it)
- never dunk the componements or have them in standing water, wash them with an thin and constant flow of water holding them in an angle so that the waters drops of immediatelly (to avoid water in slots, get the dirt of instead of messing it on the board)
-never dry with hot air pistols! let them dry in the air by themselves (soldering doesnt like heat
@savelkaunas I am HIGHLY disappointed that I paid for my Certs to be a Qualified technician, and then you go and claim to be one, you know, you have completely F#$%ed the motherboards by placing them Firstly in water, then by heating them up with a heat gun to above 100!, please dont post destructive videos like this online!
@bloodreighn Yeap, I see that you BOUGHT your certs. Your knowledge about electronics is in "stupid american" level. Do not slam your finger when closing your notebook. As there is NO label on it. "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
@savelkaunas Oh yes I definatly Payed for my tuition, and trust me a bachelor in Electronics and Computer Tech is not cheap, not some breakfast cereal prize like you seam to have won, yet again Please Dont post destructive videos like this online, last thing anyone needs is some poor young fella following your idiotic methods
@bloodreighn It's "PAID" why does everyone spell it wrong when claiming they got higher education? I noted I made a typo as well, it's easy on YT comments! haha Anyway, Do the paper towel dabbing method and save your board from problems you'll surely see soaking them completely
@bloodreighn The wrong "one"?! Yes, that is amusing as well. This video I found alarming however. Heat Sinks should be cleaned with water and left to dry over night, as an example
and no the minerals left behind connect circut pathways thats why you alwayse use distilled water and dust is non conductive thus good for a board so long as its not causing heat buildup
wow drink more fructose with mercury in it and tap water with floride in it because these "specialists" get more special every year how entertaining
you would have to be retarded to use undistilled h20 to clean a board, some reasons:
your loving government allows over 150 chemicals in city water most of which are not fully solute are corrosive and dissolved {on a microscopic level your looking at 1 micron to 20 micron bits of chems and metals
i bet he works for pc world, no wonder my computer wouldnt work after. omg just seen the heat gun wtf are you doing do you not know that you can push the moisture into the components. you should stay away from electronics and work in the kitchen as a pot wash or somthing
I think everybody is missing the point here. The poster got the mainboards because they were *not* working. Obviously the *dust* is a much bigger problem than the deposits the water leaves behind. This is not normal computer maintenance. This is extreme refurbishing.
I would not put the fans in water thought, will greatly reduce the bearing life span. Second I would use distilled water so as not to get mineral depostis in the micro electronics.
I would have removed the NB / SB heatsinks too, but that's just me. Probably only a negligible amount of the thermal interface material even contacted the detergent.
@Xearo167 nothing bad happened to all items from the movie. They are working fine. Do not call anybody moron just in case you think you are very smart. HDD are sealed with gass transparent seal and watter will not pass inside. (in normal washing).
To other comments about "impurities of tap water". I live in country where tap water is clean and drinkable.
Where I live, the tap water is "clean and drinkable" to be sure; it will not make anyone sick, but it will leave a mineral residue. I wondered if a bath of 90% isopropyl alcohol and an old toothbrush would work well - or would the alcohol damage the board? I used to live with folks who smoked inside and I think there's probably a significant, if imperceptible, amount of "tar" buildup on my motherboard I'd like to get rid of. Thanks for the video.
@Mal3volution I hate smokers... once I've repaired DVD from smoker... tar managed to get inside optics.
I reccomend always to look at the value of mainboard. Maybe it is cheaper to get other one. Once I washed motherboard in dishwasher and nothing bad had happened. But there is alway probability, that you'll get dead mainbord.
Also, if it is working, maybe there is no need to wash it? All this stuff about washing is just because I can get hundreds of MB, but sometimes they are very dirty and..
@savelkaunas ... I don't like to touch sticky and smelly things. :)
Also, I was items before I dissassemble them for spare parts. I am electronics hobbyist and lots of components in my designs are second hand. It is much cheaper than buy in shop or order online.
The dark water from your video convinces me that smoking was involved. Washing would not be necessary otherwise. I smoke in my computer room, and I pay for it with Windex, Q-Tips, and time. I don't mind. I just want my motherboards clean for when we redo the room, so I thought a brush and some 90+% isopropyl would do the trick. I just wonder if it would dissolve anything I'd have to worry about.
The dark water from your video convinces me that smoking was involved. Washing would not be necessary otherwise. I smoke in my computer room, and I pay for it with Windex, Q-Tips, and time. I don't mind. I just want my motherboards clean for when we redo the room, so I thought a brush and some 90+% isopropyl would do the trick. I just wonder if it would dissolve anything I'd have to worry about.
The dark water from your video convinces me that smoking was involved. Washing would not be necessary otherwise. I smoke in my computer room, and I pay for it with Windex, Q-Tips, and time. I don't mind. I just want my motherboards clean for when we redo the room, so I thought a brush and some 90+% isopropyl would do the trick. I just wonder if it would dissolve anything I'd have to worry about.
Noooooo Wayyyyy, watching this was thinking Spirits the type they use on car electronics boards and parts and even with that I will bee a little maybe or not for PC MB due to components use alcohol you dong or wong lol
Before anyone thinks that this is a bad idea as the natural though is electronics and water =bad. WRONG WRONG WRONG. One it is the IMPURITIES in tap water that cause things to fry. 2. leave it to dry out correctly. put it in an airing cupboard propped up on books with the components facing down!
use bathroom cleaner , did anyone ever tell you that water reactivates the ferric chloride residuals ?after you are done with these write the word whammo on them
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@savelkaunas Why must you reach boiling temperature? Water evaporates at any temp as long as it's not ice. Warmer means faster evaporation but a simple hairdryer is indeed enough to properly dry your components.
To be sure, don't apply any power to the boards for a week or more (and keep it in a warm, preferably dry place) and you should be ok on the water shorts.
@savelkaunas I never said there will be water on it for a week.
I said that a hairdryer is enough to dry your components, no need to go >100C as that's more likely to kill your components then having water on it a bit longer.
The week is just to make sure all water is gone, we don't want any shorts on the boards because of remaining water. In fact, I don't think the water will even stay on there for a week if you leave it in a warm room (unless you put it in a puddle of water...)
ehh sure it's nice with a clean computer but why above 100C!?!?!?!?!
it's qutie possible to dry things with much less temperature and that heat gun seems to be a recipe for disaster. the solder could perhaps run or parts break from thermal stress. the heatgun seems to be a bad idea based on somewhat faulty understanding of evaporation
you are an electronic illiterate dumbazz... above 100C because water boils off at that temperature. if you think you can damage anything with 100C then you really are stupid. Components are meant to be ok even at 200C (even more is used when soldering).
@savelkaunas the old intel m p4 runs idle at 75C under 5% lead 85C and 100%laod 105C at max ^.^ but its nothing compared to the 125C from the nv 5350 gpu ;D
A better way to do this is just to use vaccum cleaner! Water never works well with electronic equipment and may induce faster degarde of cooper/alloy/whatever_used
yeah and you cure your babys' cough by dousing it in gasoline and scubbing. you know a few kids broke open their parents computer and did this. it's people like you that give me work, thank you for spreading misinformation.
question: my laptop charger got messed up and my father made one all it needed was a new tip it was working good until i saw a spark and it turned off then it wouldnt turn on anymore so is this the mother board or something else?
you should just throw it in the oven instead of blow drying it...that will also freshen up all the solder joints and is more controlled...375 for like 10 minutes would be good.
@savelkaunas well seeing as how there is 300 million people in america..i think using standard measurments will be ok...thats 300 million ovens all in standard :) lol
by the way, you should do some more reasearch...375f (190c) for 10 minutes brings dead boards back to life all the time, it remelts the solder, not to flow, but just enough to get rid of microfissures...try it with a bad (but working) card if you dont believe me..a card with lines or something.
@savelkaunas solder "flows" at 217-223. it will close microfisures at a lower temperature than that...
its worked for hundreds of boards dude. just tellin you cuz it has th benifit of A) drying the boards and B)fixing problems before they are happening...check you tube man there is dozens of people that will tell you it works on here alone
I found it interesting that you put so much heat on the mobo, after I wash I just put it in the sun (it gets hot in australia) or just use a hair dryer if i am in a hurry. Why did you wash the HDD, I would think that moisture would go through the vent hole. as a rule I wash every component and case, excluding the HDD
And about temperature- sun is ok if weather is very dry. In wet air conditions I need to heat up PCB to be sure, that watter is gone.
Don't forget to remove battery. I test-washed two mainboards with battery on board, and both of them are dead. It is nice to work near computer recycle company- spare boards for free :)
I know how you feel working near a recycle company, I started working with a repair company and found many discarded mobos, washed them and hey they WORKED, My next project is a mobo I found at the rubbish dump...HA HA HA
I think you know nothing about electronics technology. Chips can withstand 250oC temperature and clear drinking water properly dried will never corrode chips.
yes but city water does not equal "clear drinking water" by any case. Chlorine, Iron, Pesticides, Medicines, Cyanide, Fluoride, and Arsenic are all present in city water. so yes, giving a bath to some MOBO's in your bathtub using tapwater is a VERY BAD IDEA.
Motherboards are designed to withstand lots of heat!!!! but i do disagree with the heat gun use a hair dryer hehe
cuteulala1 8 hours ago
i've meet allot of "practical" people like this guy as an service technician, and they all end up giving up...
XTYNoLuck 1 week ago
Actually aside from the hard drive, cleaning boards in soap and water is not uncommon most factories do this. As long as no power is going through the board it is safe, and you must let them dry completely before applying power. The hard drive on the other hand have air holes which would allow water inside and possibly take a very long time to dry completely. But if it's not for you simply clean your boards another way.
jrichtman 1 month ago
i cant understand why you didnt show us the finished product??..it back in the case and running??why??..because this video is fake..dont ever do this.
100chuckjones 1 month ago
IT WORKS
Wongsta16 1 month ago
sweet
charger334 1 month ago
Yes, this method may clean motherboards and they may all power up and work fine afterwards. However I sure washing in tap water and force drying with a heat gun will shorten the life of the board.
If you resell these on eBay can you post back with your seller id so we can all avoid.
jakese7en1 1 month ago
ble ble debilai... nebutu kavianski... o hardus irgi vandeny plaunat?
sdeivis2 3 months ago
disastrous way to repair.. dump the video
gurbaksh 4 months ago
Everyone who thinks that the person doing this is ruining these boards is an idiot. You can actually run motherboards and other printed circuit boards through the dishwasher with no problem, although I wouldn't use the dishwasher to dry them unless you were air drying.
But anyway go talk to any extreme overclockers who have to wash various insulators off of their boards, this and similar methods are primarily what you'll find being used.
mygaffer 4 months ago
DO NOT DO IT
michaelukable 4 months ago
um...one word...IDIOT
sam45845 6 months ago
How it is possible to keep the motherboard safe if you use water and heat gun on it. It simply doesn't make sense. Water can cause a corrosion to the motherboard as far as I know. Eduard.
edmalikin 7 months ago
Wash the motherboard, XD. Why do you think when your ipod goes through the wash and you let it dry and it doesnt work? This video is the same scenario with the motherboard. Fuck You sir.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 8 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r You are an idiot. The iPod has an intergrated battery and older models have a hard drive. Thus water is going to either kill the hard drive or short something. A motherboard does not suffer the same problem. Trust me this works.
mygaffer 4 months ago
@mygaffer
kinda funny how voltage is flowing through the motherboard.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 4 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r Kinda funny how it isn't. I don't usually get into this forum arguing bullshit but you are quite simply incredibly wrong and you are coming across as a very stupid person. I don't know if you are trying to sound like an idiot but you do. I fix computers for a living. I've done component level repair on motherboards many times. If you discharge the capacitors and pull the power and bios battery there is no voltage you mook.
mygaffer 4 months ago
@mygaffer
I work at a computer company called Uniway Computers based in edmonton, I do know what I am talking about, and I am talking about an ipod not a motherboard you retard.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 4 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r The same Uniway Computers with a 1 star rating on Yelp? I have washed a motherboard before so I know it does not ruin them. If you are an extreme overclocker you have to insulate your board from condensation. The materials used are usually pretty messy and this is the only way to clean them. So I will repeat one more time, I have done this, others have done this, it works fine and if you really are a computer technician you must suck to not know this.
mygaffer 3 months ago
@mygaffer
It corrodes the board. If I suck, you are a fag.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 3 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r Well call me Dorthy because you certainly do suck.
mygaffer 3 months ago
@mygaffer
whatever makes you sleep at night kid.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 3 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r Oh, u mad bro?
mygaffer 3 months ago
@mygaffer
Wow, really mature kid.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 3 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r Man, you are really butt hurt, aren't you? You keep responding.
mygaffer 3 months ago
@mygaffer
I do, and so do you. So that means you are too. Motherfucker.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 3 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r A clever ploy to keep me from embarrassing you further but unfortunately you have all the intelligence of a moldy mayonnaise so your plan fell through.
mygaffer 2 months ago
@mygaffer
Good comeback, kiddie.
ReCkLeSsErr0r 2 months ago
@ReCkLeSsErr0r As opposed to writing "good comeback"? My, you DO have a sharp wit, don't you?
mygaffer 2 months ago
Shortening the life of capacitors at dried in a heating gun.
Using compressed air , more better.
yutan15silvia 8 months ago
one way to f up a board, number one do not expose to water, and another heat gun will cause capacitors to explode at a temp greater than 105 degrees I am a tv technician take my advice this guy is a dumbnut do not buy refurbished boards from him. air duster would be the way to go.. i am sure the seal has opened on the hdd and exposed it to humid air the heads in it will soon crash.
Boatdog357 9 months ago
one way to f up a board, number one do not expose to water, and another heat gun will cause capacitors to explode at a temp greater than 105 degrees I am a tv technician take my advice this guy is a dumbnut do not buy refurbished boards from him. air duster would be the way to go..
Boatdog357 9 months ago
Don't never ever do what this guy is doing. I have been in the IT business for over 15 years, and have never heard of any computer mfg recommend this method of cleaning. There are safer ways to clean a motherboard.
Rymat23 9 months ago
Hm... Wont BGA ICs die because of water? And what about HDD? Plates are in non-filtered water with minerals and stuff, so it will ruin it too.
hydrogenMouse 9 months ago
BETTER FORGET THIS WATER ACTION...what a shame Method !
All Transistor will DIE faster now...NooB
UltraNSC 9 months ago
please , le't me know if you use soap and regular water for clean this motherboard ,, you sure is not burn ? thanks for answer ..
sadllebronc 9 months ago
If you want to get them wet Just use contact cleaner. Other wise plain tap water will ruin integrated circuits because of the minerals in it. To dry a mobo do not use a heat gun 1" from the board just place it on counter to air dry for the day. Your video is bullshit
littlewazz 10 months ago
@littlewazz nope, it works. I just forgot to enter warning text "Not to use by stupid people with dirty tap water and damaged hot air guns and no brains".
:)
savelkaunas 10 months ago 2
@savelkaunas It's very stupid using tap water loaded with ions. DEionised water is what you need...
Rhythmeister 9 months ago
@savelkaunas dirty tap water lol
ichhabegedroppen 6 months ago
He is not cleaning, this is just a liquid cooling xD
mezooo2020 11 months ago
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Interesting video. Have you heard of / tried using Alconox (Detergent 8) for cleaning circuit boards? Would you recommend?
alconoxinc 11 months ago
please don't tell me you used soap :p
fancysnake1 11 months ago
you're going to end up melting the RAM and PCI slots, plastic melts at much lower temp than solder. and the capacitors are definately going to be damaged after washing and heating like that.
simontay1984 11 months ago
@simontay1984 use proper temperature.
savelkaunas 10 months ago
Can I give you my MacBook pro to clean t for meh?
expertprogrammer 1 year ago
@expertprogrammer no, we do not clean crap.
savelkaunas 1 year ago 8
@savelkaunas MacBook pro's are not crap by mistake i took a shit on it. You say its crap because you can't afford one and even you can't repair it.
expertprogrammer 1 year ago
@expertprogrammer Currently our company use 3 apple cinema monitors (there is small review in my web), one macbook air, one another apple notebook, one imac and last week we bought MacPro (like server, with dual xeon cpu) I think we have 3 iphone (old generations). Also we have about 30 PC windows systems, and two i7 servers. And several pizza box size PC running as advanced routers. Lots of working computers.... And we recycle several metric tons of computers per week.
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas can i have the old computers your company throws out
Gatewayuser200 2 months ago
a Spa for motherboards? YAY!!! =^D
GAKtion64 1 year ago
Every time I look for videos on repairing motherboards I come across this crap. Good God man, please take this video down!!
mattbrad2 1 year ago
Yikes!!! Well at least the M/B is spotless clean.It won't work again,but it is at least clean...lol...Unreal.....You HAVE to work for HP.
johnnyd63 1 year ago
Heatgun not going to destroy the board, at 125-130C is ok. so long not done over a extended period of time and the gun keep moving in diiffernt areas, I do this myseft before I replace any components like capacitors and ETC, it makes it easy to desolder without damaging the traces and keep the board from warping when I do a reflow.
Water alone does not cause corrosion, but hydrogen atoms present in water can combine with other elements to form acids do and never put a harddrive in water.
RetroDOS 1 year ago
you terrify me with you water and heatgun
4StrokeRage 1 year ago
i have done that with remote controls after i put them a part but this guy is a rock musician and you know what they do to their equipment
ivan112116 1 year ago
God! Did you wash the HDD too?
herat111 1 year ago
Maby a non conductive solvent and a hair dryer might have been more appropriate :P
darrenbritton 1 year ago
You showed us how to wash and dry a motherboard, nor to refurbish and repair. And water will only damage electric components if electricity is passed through when they are wet. Using a compressor can create static electricity.
pathman2 1 year ago
Do you work for Asus rma ?
mikeydog200 1 year ago 3
Is this the ASUS rma centre??
mikeydog200 1 year ago
The bath you gave the boards didn't bother me anywhere near as much as the heat gun... I mean, come on... instead of torching the board like that, don't you think a hair dryer from a little more distance or an air compressor followed by leaving the board in a well-ventilated room would have been much less stressful on it and the components? Hot soldering irons have been known to damage traces, and you're holding a heat gun within an inch from many of the chips for extended periods of time!
TortureBot 1 year ago 10
@TortureBot control temperature and that all. Rohs compliant PCB and components must withstand 200oC or more for some period of time. Air compressors tend to spit water, oil and sometimes they can blow of components. Also, compressed air can not get under BGA. So do not use hot air gun (without thermocontrol) "for extended periods of time".
Everybody is reccomended to read PCB populating and soldering datasheet before writting comments.
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas Never blew a component off a circuit board before with compressed air. Maybe a sticker or two. And if you're worried about water (couldn't tell that from the vid?), and oil, then a good filter usually removes 99% of that. I've just always known high heat to kill components or at least reduce their life expectancy. And sorry I didn't browse the "datasheet" before I posted. It wasn't in the video's description as required reading.
TortureBot 1 year ago
KIDS, this is JOKE VIDEO... DO NOT wash boards in such a manner, use a wet paper towel to remove dust, and if needed, hair dryer, but dust is not a big concern that you need to wash the boards, just the heat sinks!!
MetallicBill 1 year ago
Yes You Can wash any Circuit but Remember use Clean water and remove battery if present in the circuit to avoid damage to the circuit, Use hot air dryer to dry fast!!
also remove and any light material lke paper or anything that disolve with water
"Dont Use Salt Water"
ruelyd 1 year ago
@ruelyd metal rusts, it's just best to use water on something else, which is why a paper towel or other fabric for cleaning is the better route
MetallicBill 1 year ago
I've thrown my wireless apple keyboard in the dishwasher before, after spilling soda on it. :)
Take batteries out, run through dishwasher (with heated dry), then put it over an air conditioner vent in the house for 2-3 days. Voila!
uraijit 1 year ago
- finally dont lay componements down on metal parts of the case while woking on them, you risk to scratch both, soldering points dont like scratching
alternatives would be compressed air or board cleanning spray. this spray should also be re-cleaned with iso propanol...
if this was ment to be ironic, good job, ;)
but if this was ment to be a serious howto.... oh my god,,, an electro technicions worst nightmare
sry for my bad english, im missing some technical vocabulary
dont try this at home
Smokemonsta 1 year ago
really no good way of cleaning. if you plan to do so, please:
- only use destilated water oder isopropanol (normal water has minerals in it)
- never dunk the componements or have them in standing water, wash them with an thin and constant flow of water holding them in an angle so that the waters drops of immediatelly (to avoid water in slots, get the dirt of instead of messing it on the board)
-never dry with hot air pistols! let them dry in the air by themselves (soldering doesnt like heat
Smokemonsta 1 year ago
Ohhhhhhhh God.....are you sure that you are a Computer's Technician??
negrocaviar 1 year ago
@negrocaviar: yeS! Check my webpages :)
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas I am HIGHLY disappointed that I paid for my Certs to be a Qualified technician, and then you go and claim to be one, you know, you have completely F#$%ed the motherboards by placing them Firstly in water, then by heating them up with a heat gun to above 100!, please dont post destructive videos like this online!
bloodreighn 1 year ago
@bloodreighn Yeap, I see that you BOUGHT your certs. Your knowledge about electronics is in "stupid american" level. Do not slam your finger when closing your notebook. As there is NO label on it. "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
" chi chi.
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas Oh yes I definatly Payed for my tuition, and trust me a bachelor in Electronics and Computer Tech is not cheap, not some breakfast cereal prize like you seam to have won, yet again Please Dont post destructive videos like this online, last thing anyone needs is some poor young fella following your idiotic methods
bloodreighn 1 year ago
@bloodreighn It's "PAID" why does everyone spell it wrong when claiming they got higher education? I noted I made a typo as well, it's easy on YT comments! haha Anyway, Do the paper towel dabbing method and save your board from problems you'll surely see soaking them completely
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@MetallicBill You are quite right, it is paid not payed, though the spell checker doesn't pick up the wrong on haha
bloodreighn 1 year ago
@bloodreighn The wrong "one"?! Yes, that is amusing as well. This video I found alarming however. Heat Sinks should be cleaned with water and left to dry over night, as an example
MetallicBill 1 year ago
@savelkaunas Dude, seriously, if you believe what you did is right, you're are wrong!
MetallicBill 1 year ago
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herat111 1 year ago
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herat111 1 year ago
Oops i lost the screws!
UnknownK1995 1 year ago
I prefer to use My ultra sonic bath for this but hey..if it works don't knock it..:)
bigdav123456 1 year ago
Ever heard of compressed air? much easier. Plus its quicker not to mention safer because of not using water.
TechNimbu 1 year ago
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TechNimbu 1 year ago
If HDD's get wet, they're done. They are not completely air tight. FAIL.
laeinc 1 year ago 8
@laeinc ... another professional commenting... :)
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas lol good video none the less :P I wonder how many people actually have tried this, after seeing it. xD WIN.
laeinc 1 year ago
and no the minerals left behind connect circut pathways thats why you alwayse use distilled water and dust is non conductive thus good for a board so long as its not causing heat buildup
wow drink more fructose with mercury in it and tap water with floride in it because these "specialists" get more special every year how entertaining
goombafreak 1 year ago
@goombafreak Whoever told you that is a fucking retard. Dust+Friction = A LOT of static electricity. Go back to 3rd grade then try harder.
TimmyTubularr 1 year ago
another reason is if any water hides in any ram slot etc zap
and finally the pressed layered board can get water into the layers and follow the
wire paths especially if there was a bad home solder job done
goombafreak 1 year ago
you would have to be retarded to use undistilled h20 to clean a board, some reasons:
your loving government allows over 150 chemicals in city water most of which are not fully solute are corrosive and dissolved {on a microscopic level your looking at 1 micron to 20 micron bits of chems and metals
goombafreak 1 year ago
works better if also sing on bath....
azas1 1 year ago
tutorial how to spend water, electricity, and damage electronic components
a simpler option is to recycle
mostroenlinea 1 year ago
I don't think you want to wash your HD... all the other stuff should be fine.
orioncheung 1 year ago
i bet he works for pc world, no wonder my computer wouldnt work after. omg just seen the heat gun wtf are you doing do you not know that you can push the moisture into the components. you should stay away from electronics and work in the kitchen as a pot wash or somthing
marv126p 1 year ago
what is the point of this wtf...
water on microelectronics
are people this fucking dumb
ventHARAS 1 year ago
@ventHARAS No. As long as it's dried properly it will be fine.
TimmyTubularr 1 year ago
noob
scooter12365 1 year ago
I think everybody is missing the point here. The poster got the mainboards because they were *not* working. Obviously the *dust* is a much bigger problem than the deposits the water leaves behind. This is not normal computer maintenance. This is extreme refurbishing.
metroffindings 1 year ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
daniel325icoupe 1 year ago
does your girlfriend know that you used her hairdryer? :)
Jallge 1 year ago
@Jallge I don't think you would wanna use that as a hair dryer ;) Those are made for extreme heating they can melt plastics n such..
Nights85 1 year ago
@Jallge its not a hairdryer dude its a industrial Hot Air Blower
SIedgeHammer83 1 year ago
I never thought of washing these.......
MechaNintendoMast 1 year ago
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lol, i wouldn't do this
AbeWWII 1 year ago
I would not put the fans in water thought, will greatly reduce the bearing life span. Second I would use distilled water so as not to get mineral depostis in the micro electronics.
mythril4 1 year ago 2
I would have removed the NB / SB heatsinks too, but that's just me. Probably only a negligible amount of the thermal interface material even contacted the detergent.
Mal3volution 1 year ago
HAHA , this is funny
Mickycond86 1 year ago
@ASalinas79 please describe aging process of capacitors. Or maybe read the datasheet before replying?
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@Xearo167 nothing bad happened to all items from the movie. They are working fine. Do not call anybody moron just in case you think you are very smart. HDD are sealed with gass transparent seal and watter will not pass inside. (in normal washing).
To other comments about "impurities of tap water". I live in country where tap water is clean and drinkable.
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas
Where I live, the tap water is "clean and drinkable" to be sure; it will not make anyone sick, but it will leave a mineral residue. I wondered if a bath of 90% isopropyl alcohol and an old toothbrush would work well - or would the alcohol damage the board? I used to live with folks who smoked inside and I think there's probably a significant, if imperceptible, amount of "tar" buildup on my motherboard I'd like to get rid of. Thanks for the video.
Mal3volution 1 year ago
@Mal3volution I hate smokers... once I've repaired DVD from smoker... tar managed to get inside optics.
I reccomend always to look at the value of mainboard. Maybe it is cheaper to get other one. Once I washed motherboard in dishwasher and nothing bad had happened. But there is alway probability, that you'll get dead mainbord.
Also, if it is working, maybe there is no need to wash it? All this stuff about washing is just because I can get hundreds of MB, but sometimes they are very dirty and..
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas ... I don't like to touch sticky and smelly things. :)
Also, I was items before I dissassemble them for spare parts. I am electronics hobbyist and lots of components in my designs are second hand. It is much cheaper than buy in shop or order online.
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas
The dark water from your video convinces me that smoking was involved. Washing would not be necessary otherwise. I smoke in my computer room, and I pay for it with Windex, Q-Tips, and time. I don't mind. I just want my motherboards clean for when we redo the room, so I thought a brush and some 90+% isopropyl would do the trick. I just wonder if it would dissolve anything I'd have to worry about.
Mal3volution 1 year ago
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@savelkaunas
The dark water from your video convinces me that smoking was involved. Washing would not be necessary otherwise. I smoke in my computer room, and I pay for it with Windex, Q-Tips, and time. I don't mind. I just want my motherboards clean for when we redo the room, so I thought a brush and some 90+% isopropyl would do the trick. I just wonder if it would dissolve anything I'd have to worry about.
Mal3volution 1 year ago
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@savelkaunas
The dark water from your video convinces me that smoking was involved. Washing would not be necessary otherwise. I smoke in my computer room, and I pay for it with Windex, Q-Tips, and time. I don't mind. I just want my motherboards clean for when we redo the room, so I thought a brush and some 90+% isopropyl would do the trick. I just wonder if it would dissolve anything I'd have to worry about.
Mal3volution 1 year ago
Noooooo Wayyyyy, watching this was thinking Spirits the type they use on car electronics boards and parts and even with that I will bee a little maybe or not for PC MB due to components use alcohol you dong or wong lol
1Zerotonine 1 year ago
tisk tisk... where's your antistatic wrist strap... LMAO
iamsuperbleeder 1 year ago
Before anyone thinks that this is a bad idea as the natural though is electronics and water =bad. WRONG WRONG WRONG. One it is the IMPURITIES in tap water that cause things to fry. 2. leave it to dry out correctly. put it in an airing cupboard propped up on books with the components facing down!
Thepaddster 1 year ago
@ASalinas79 Replace those caps anyway! if your using this on 5 to ten year old motherboards you'd be daft not to replace them!
Thepaddster 1 year ago
Wow, really dirty to really clean. Awesome.
gamecollect101 1 year ago
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use bathroom cleaner , did anyone ever tell you that water reactivates the ferric chloride residuals ?after you are done with these write the word whammo on them
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iPhoNeNfoRmer 1 year ago
Lol and then call insurance to claim water damage :P
pluut 2 years ago
use bathroom cleaner , did anyone ever tell you that water reactivates the ferric chloride residuals ?after you are done with these
write the word whammo on them
mikewm9v 2 years ago
If you think that FeCl is used in MB manufacture process... you must learn again :)
savelkaunas 2 years ago
You may damage plastic parts with that.
it is enough to use hair dryer or leave in warm place overnight, no need for such temperatures.
deltaxcd 2 years ago
You must reach boiling temperature.
savelkaunas 2 years ago
No need for boiling temperature. If you can just wait few hours, water will evaporate without risk of damage and less work.
It is quite easy to overheat and melt electrolytic capacitors. while PCB itself remains cold.
deltaxcd 2 years ago
@deltaxcd no, at room temperature watter will not leave. Ask mobile phone repair man (if you have such persons in your country).
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas Why must you reach boiling temperature? Water evaporates at any temp as long as it's not ice. Warmer means faster evaporation but a simple hairdryer is indeed enough to properly dry your components.
To be sure, don't apply any power to the boards for a week or more (and keep it in a warm, preferably dry place) and you should be ok on the water shorts.
LineriderGanoderma 1 year ago
@LineriderGanoderma a week with remaining water will definetelly kill the board :)
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas I never said there will be water on it for a week.
I said that a hairdryer is enough to dry your components, no need to go >100C as that's more likely to kill your components then having water on it a bit longer.
The week is just to make sure all water is gone, we don't want any shorts on the boards because of remaining water. In fact, I don't think the water will even stay on there for a week if you leave it in a warm room (unless you put it in a puddle of water...)
LineriderGanoderma 1 year ago
whatever
jimmyjeww 2 years ago
@jimmyjeww
yeah eat it
yozas 2 years ago
search for "solder temperatures" in google, first result
yozas 2 years ago
ehh sure it's nice with a clean computer but why above 100C!?!?!?!?!
it's qutie possible to dry things with much less temperature and that heat gun seems to be a recipe for disaster. the solder could perhaps run or parts break from thermal stress. the heatgun seems to be a bad idea based on somewhat faulty understanding of evaporation
DanFrederiksen 2 years ago
@DanFrederiksen
you are an electronic illiterate dumbazz... above 100C because water boils off at that temperature. if you think you can damage anything with 100C then you really are stupid. Components are meant to be ok even at 200C (even more is used when soldering).
yozas 2 years ago
will the solder be ok above 200C too..
DanFrederiksen 2 years ago
depends on type of solder, but 100C is a joke to any types.
yozas 2 years ago
not always if ur processor is running at 100C then thats overheating
HQA0 2 years ago
@HQA0
but it will not damage it, because the thermal protection will shut power off before it reaches much higher temps.
yozas 2 years ago
thats the CPU the GPU doesnt at times mine has peaked over 100C its a dv9000 hp laptop
HQA0 2 years ago
@HQA0 There is "working temperature" and "storage temperature". Read datasheet.
savelkaunas 1 year ago
@savelkaunas the old intel m p4 runs idle at 75C under 5% lead 85C and 100%laod 105C at max ^.^ but its nothing compared to the 125C from the nv 5350 gpu ;D
frank12444 1 year ago
A better way to do this is just to use vaccum cleaner! Water never works well with electronic equipment and may induce faster degarde of cooper/alloy/whatever_used
BrickG 2 years ago
Holy shit my PC runs so much faster!
Monxer 2 years ago
yeah and you cure your babys' cough by dousing it in gasoline and scubbing. you know a few kids broke open their parents computer and did this. it's people like you that give me work, thank you for spreading misinformation.
Potemtole 2 years ago
Yeah, I forgot to post typical warning for US people: "Not intended to use by stupid people".
savelkaunas 2 years ago
i have done this i and its 100 % safe long as u dry it off
jerrysjunk 2 years ago
this is not a good ideas, at all
Eiltis 2 years ago
is this forreal
lemartravis1 2 years ago
question: my laptop charger got messed up and my father made one all it needed was a new tip it was working good until i saw a spark and it turned off then it wouldnt turn on anymore so is this the mother board or something else?
FCEE1 2 years ago
ahhh, thats why my computer was full of those viruses...it just needed a good bath.
Im gonna toss my laptop in the tub tonight. Thanks YouTube!
ctrlaltdlt01 2 years ago
you should just throw it in the oven instead of blow drying it...that will also freshen up all the solder joints and is more controlled...375 for like 10 minutes would be good.
565Customz 2 years ago
375F? Use metric temperature. Do you know that only two countries are using F for temperature: USA and Belize.
At 190oC for 10 minutes, all electrolytic caps will be damaged.
savelkaunas 2 years ago
@savelkaunas well seeing as how there is 300 million people in america..i think using standard measurments will be ok...thats 300 million ovens all in standard :) lol
by the way, you should do some more reasearch...375f (190c) for 10 minutes brings dead boards back to life all the time, it remelts the solder, not to flow, but just enough to get rid of microfissures...try it with a bad (but working) card if you dont believe me..a card with lines or something.
565Customz 2 years ago
300M versus 6.7G :)
I am only interested how lead free solder is working in 190°C while melting point is 217-223 °C.
Maybe you are speaking about old hardware with PbSn solder (188°C)?
I don't need to try, I resolder BGA chips :)
savelkaunas 2 years ago
@savelkaunas solder "flows" at 217-223. it will close microfisures at a lower temperature than that...
its worked for hundreds of boards dude. just tellin you cuz it has th benifit of A) drying the boards and B)fixing problems before they are happening...check you tube man there is dozens of people that will tell you it works on here alone
565Customz 2 years ago
isso q é lavegem geral, o cara não tira nem o CPU para lavar rssss é impressão minha ou o cara lavaou até o HDD... kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Cabelogc 2 years ago
IDIOT
040679kanjavi 2 years ago
I found it interesting that you put so much heat on the mobo, after I wash I just put it in the sun (it gets hot in australia) or just use a hair dryer if i am in a hurry. Why did you wash the HDD, I would think that moisture would go through the vent hole. as a rule I wash every component and case, excluding the HDD
jwhittak98 2 years ago
i washed HDD just for fun :)
And about temperature- sun is ok if weather is very dry. In wet air conditions I need to heat up PCB to be sure, that watter is gone.
Don't forget to remove battery. I test-washed two mainboards with battery on board, and both of them are dead. It is nice to work near computer recycle company- spare boards for free :)
savelkaunas 2 years ago
I allways remove the battery, if it soldered to the mobo I will use alcohol to clean it, eg laptop mobos
jwhittak98 2 years ago
I know how you feel working near a recycle company, I started working with a repair company and found many discarded mobos, washed them and hey they WORKED, My next project is a mobo I found at the rubbish dump...HA HA HA
jwhittak98 2 years ago
Te Chips foots oxidiring and the hot kill the chips.
Jombress1 2 years ago
I think you know nothing about electronics technology. Chips can withstand 250oC temperature and clear drinking water properly dried will never corrode chips.
savelkaunas 2 years ago
yes but city water does not equal "clear drinking water" by any case. Chlorine, Iron, Pesticides, Medicines, Cyanide, Fluoride, and Arsenic are all present in city water. so yes, giving a bath to some MOBO's in your bathtub using tapwater is a VERY BAD IDEA.
mikahgiacchetti 2 years ago
In what shitland you live that your drinking watter is so contaminated?
savelkaunas 2 years ago
Probably USA LOL..
strongnoob 2 years ago