SUBEN NIVEL Nery Castillo, Carlos Vela, Jonathan Dos Santos, Javier Hernandez, Andrés Guardado......falta Giovanni Dos Santos y Pablo Barrera....aunque en la selección siempre rinden...... y nace una nueva estrella Marco Bueno de Pachuca(3 goles en 2 partidos y dos asistencias, pretendido por Liverpool), atrás al mejor defensa del torneo Hugo Ayala y en España uno de los defensores más pretendidos de Europa Héctor Moreno....tenemos buenos porteros, qué mas queremos para poder ser campeones???
he is more suited for la liga where the pace is slower.. his technique is terrific but his reactions are too slow .. he's got the potential to be the next eduardo
vela has great talent and potential, shown spurts of brilliance at times. with the right coaching( arsene wenger) and the right enviornment he can be great
Vela used to be one of my faviroute players at Arsenal. Him along with the likes of Chamakh we should NOT sell. As I believe if they get the playing time required to get better then they will. I know Chamakh has that injury so mabey not him so much. But everyone saying sell him or he belongs in Spain. Your wrong ( in my opinion ) Arsene just needs to have belief in them. They also need to try harder aswell.
wow, so much for hype...time we let him go and move on, Spain is where he belongs. I think we shld learn from this and work harder to see Joel Campbell and Ryo Miyachi fulfill their potentials...at least the OX is already starting to show he can mix it with the big boys.
@1718venom9 what do you want Wenger to do?? move his legs for him or lock him up in the training ground..I was one his biggest fans, but he never worked hard enough to improve, he disappears from games where he need to prove himself. Take away a couple of lobbed goals against smaller teams, he didnt show anything when it really matter and I was disappointed. So many areas of his game didnt improve, his finishing, passing, speed, movement in the box didnt improve much. He is to blame not Wenger.
@xoxVIPxox I agree with you vela has what he needs to get better but it needs to come from him, u can take a horse to drink water but you cant make him...Not being called by the Mexican Nat. team and getting sold by arsenal hopefully gets a reality check and changes hes attitude and decides to work hard cause if he doesnt i think it will all go downhill from here
@xoxVIPxox well thats not what i hear from people in Spain. All he needed was confidence from Arsene and playing time. He should leave arsenal on January.
@1718venom9 I agree that he should leave. He still has time to be a really good player...everyone always want to point at the manager, if the player doesnt impress in training and doesn't show enough hunger, why should he get time over a proven senior player? I wish him success anyways.
if arsenal sells him is a good thing for him and the club because he is not at arsenals level anymore he is at the level of a mid-table erevidese club or french club
@mexvj What with that? I am not saying it in comparison to the other players, I'm saying his complexion has changed. Not every player is gigantic in the EPL or any other league either btw, it's not basket ball.
@marko4ever12..I know that! Bendtner is not coming back because he's being a drama queen and carlos is coming back until the end of the season..i just thought it will be a prefect fit but now that theyre gone it isnt going to happen
@em1b20vtec89 are you an arsenal fan? if so you should know Bendtner is on loan at sunderland for the rest of the season this is coming from a United fan
@em1b20vtec89 are you an arsenal fan? if so you should know Bendtner is on loan at sunderland for the rest of the season and vela at real sociedad this is coming from a United fan
It may sound harsh but I really think a mid-league Spanish team is where he belongs. He will get playing time and he will still be playing on a large platform. And the Spanish league suits his build and style of play.
@aguafinatv I mean that in the English league you need the skills and speed to get away with not being strong, but in La Liga it does not matter quite as much. So La Liga is more suited to his physical aility.
@fluffymole0913 OH I c. But I always thought La Liga was a stonger kind of Football compare to English football. I mean IN Spain you find the best players in the world. I love VELA , he is great.
@fluffymole0913 I think he should go to Valencia, Villareal or may be even Malaga CF. He would do great in Barca I think, Barca never really have a solid striker role in their team though.
I hope vela gets a chance again. He could be rvp's understudy. Chamakh isnt cutting it, park may go war, Rvp may need rest. We need to petition for Vela. He tore up the carlin cup. WE all love im
It's sad 2 say but vela is fucking lost out there what he needs is a better agent... People dont really think about this but agents have the smarts to negotiate in n out of contracts if the player isn't working out. He needs 2 find a team that really wants him n has a position for him... If he did it when he was in salamanca,osasuna, n some other team I dont remember he could do it again
Poor Vela is doing so bad lately that even Mexico has dropped him from the current roster. I hate seeing this happen to a player with so much talent. Vela is still a great player (in my eyes) but his performance lately has affected his reputation. Arsenal gave him very little to no time, ok, we get that but now that he's on a team with less competition for his place...He should be the star player on this team! Come on Vela step it up man!!!!
I watched the whole match and he did all he can as a sub on the wings,
I could tell you now that ''Carlos Vela'' could be a 25-30 goal a season striker but you would laugh, I don't blame you for laughing because there is no way I could prove it, except if I compared him to Hernandez at Man U, He is not a great player, but because Man U play with 2 strikers up top, all he has to do is wait for the other players to give him a chance and he finishes, Vela would thrive in a 4-4-2 formation
Yes, imagine if hernandez were playing on the wing, how well would he do then? I will say though, he does sometimes play up front on his own to good effect (although usually well supported by rooney on the wing)
@PeterSenderos Whenever Hernandez plays up top alone, Rooney is never far behind him working like a horse to feed him as well as Nani, look at the match against Barcelona when Man U were out played in the middle of the park and Hernandez had no one to feed him, it almost seemed like he wasn't on the pitch,
Vela is just unlucky that Arsenal play with only 1 striker
@gmanakadezil a bunch of players did well in the carling cup when we were playing against poor teams. vela has had chances in the first team and always fails to have an impact.
@TheFlygerian coming on 75/80min to play on the Left Wing, how do you expect him to affect the game, the only match in which he came on as a striker, he scored against Bolton
@TheFlygerian That is what am saying, you cant play Hernandez up top alone as well, you need someone who would push up and take the pressure off him Rooney, if Arsenal played RVP behind Vela am sure he would bag 25+ goals a season
@gmanakadezil I dont see why Arsenal should change the formation for Vela. That would make no sense. If Wenger did switch to 4 4 2, Walcott would be my pick above Vela all day everyday. Vela should have gone on loan to a PL club. If he impresses on loan then by all means he should be given a chance. But if he keeps playing like he is now then sell him.
@gmanakadezil Bendtnder isnt coming back to the club. He will be sold and thats a shame because he is decent. Cant rely on Vela to be the main goal scoring threat though.
@TheFlygerian Those 3 goals conceded are just madness, unexplainable errors, that wouldn't even happen to the worst defenders in the world, our players are just low on confidence and need a boost, the media are not helping as well,
Liverpool lose 4-0 and the media give them a break that we never get, funny thing is we are doing well in Europe away from the English media, 3 matches W 2 - D 1 - L 0
@gmanakadezil completely agree. the media love Dalgleish and so wont comment on their bad performances. people are forgetting that they are only 3 points above us. our start to the season has been awful. theres has been apparently amazing yet only 3 points separate us.
@TheFlygerian I was watching the match and thinking to myself Carroll plus Henderson equals 55mill lOOL , bad tactics as well, leaving Kuyt and Bellamy on the bench when Carroll and Henderson were doing nothing
Carlos Vela- World beater in the carling cup and pre season friendlies. I don't think he's ever produced when the chips are down for us. And he's had more than enough opportunities. Those he say he hasn't been given enough starts... there's a reason he hasn't started more games, it's not a conspiracy against Vela. He's just not done enough to justify being a starter.
"he's had more than enough opportunities. Those he say he hasn't been given enough starts... there's a reason he hasn't started more games"
Isn't that a contradiction?
He was a world beater up front in a 4-4-2, not so good on the left. He was not as bad last season for arsenal or WBA as he is looking so far here in Spain. He will get better when he settles.
flamini had looked average in CM, and only did a good job at fullback before the start of the 07 season, but wenger put him straight into the side, and persisted with him. He was right to do so, but vela has never had half the chances flamini had. Theo is a better comparison in truth. He was allowed to play like crap for 2 or 3 years, but stayed in the team almost whenever he was fit, but vela was restricted to a few sub appearances.
Velas real chances came in the CC,and he DID take them
@PeterSenderos Theo actually has a workrate. He is always chasing back and he has a clear role/tactic in the team. Bend his runs into the middle so he is almost playing as a Striker. Velas work rate is poor and add to the that the fact that he cant play upfront on his own
The workrate thing is a myth, and theo only increased his own workrate after a year of playing in the side. He also improved his movement off the ball after playing in the side for a long time, which vela has never had the chance to develop. Neither can play up front alone. Theo is more natural as an attacking winger, whereas vela is a more natural striker, but really needs a CF to play off of. The formation change has been unkind to vela.
@PeterSenderos The theo work rate thing isnt a myth. That why Wenger preferred him to Arshavin in the big games. Because he covers the full back. Vela is lazy in that respect. Walcott was chasing people down in the first Carling Cup final agaisnt Chelsea. Your a fool. Theo is a natural striker. Striker has always been his position. They both need to play off a striker though. Vela got his chance towards the end of the season before last and he didnt take it.
I meant the vela work rate thing is a myth. Theo did start working noticeably harder after about a year or so in the first team. (Oh wow, he worked hard in a cup final, how unusual).
Theo played on the wing a lot for southampton before we signed him. I would like to see him tried up front as well, playing off someone else, as you say, but to say it's always been his position is a bit ridiculous.
@PeterSenderos It isnt a myth. Countless times ive us lose the ball and then Vela not even chasing or getting back to try and win it back. He is a luxury player and atm not a very good one. Im saying Theo workrate can never be doubted as he is always chasing down players. Theo has and always will be a striker. He wasnt tried on the wing for Southampton, he was played upfront. its a fact, he says it himself. Vela needs to leave Arsenal.
He hasn't even played countless times, and the vast majority of those times have been from the bench.The only times I don't see him chasing round is when he's clearly short of confidence,and I've never seen it cost us anything. I don't want to bash theo anymore-I like him and he's vastly improved.Compare vela to arshavin instead.He works harder than him, generally,and I really don't think his goalscoring and play would be any worse if he were to play the same amount,plus there's room to improve.
@PeterSenderos He has played over 50 times. Thats alot. The likes of Jay Simpson, JET etc have all been shipped out with less than a handful of games. He never chases around, he is a lazy player. He had so much potential but hasnt applied it. Him and Arshavin work about the same as eachother. But then Arshavin offers goals from midfield, ability to beat players, not afraid to shoot, vision and countless assists. Arshavin is miles ahead of Vela.
He may have played that many times, but how often from the start?How many times for more than 10 minutes even?And don't forget a lot of times when he did start, he scored or assisted (they have been almost entirely in the carling cup so far).
"He never chases around, he is a lazy player"-well if you say so.
Arshavin doesn't offer goals from midfield because he doesn't play as a midfielder.Vela does work harder than him, and *probably scores or assists at about the same regularity.
@PeterSenderos Its not if i say os, its clear to see that his work rate is poor. The season before last he started a few games towards the end of the season and he failed to impress. The Carling Cup isnt a good basis because they were often against lower league opposiotion. Arshavin got the most assits for us and offered around 12 goals from that attacking mid position. He was the 2nd highest goal scorer for s last year. Vela doesnt score or assitst with the same regularity.
An in-form vela was destroying PL teams in the carling cup with a bunch of other reserves. An out of form vela still scores/assists as frequently as arshavin. The out-of-form arshavin was consistently contributing nothing to the attack, while constantly giving the ball away in front of the defence. If you can't evne admit that vela would have been at least as good as arshavin over the past 6 months, there's no point continuing.
Vela would probably have played more for WBA had dimatteo stayed.
@PeterSenderos Yes but Di Matteo didnt stay. So there is no point arguing that. Arshavin has contributed nothing to the attack???? He got the most assists and goals out of all of our wide men. More than Walcott, more than Nasri. He contributed to attack a great deal. He didnt contribute to the defence. His bad form seems to be coming to an end now anyway and he was impressive yday. Arshavin got our 2nd most goals and assists last year. Vela couldnt even get a game.
It is a valid point because dimateo was the one who signed vela whereas it seems hodgson didn't want him. Vela was unlucky there.
Arshavin did ok at the START of last season. For the past 6-8months, he's been awful. Yes he is getting better, I hope he is starting to recapture some of his form, but I'm still waiting to see the arshavin we signed.
@PeterSenderos Di matteo signed him but was he ever going to be anything more than a back up to Odemwingie?? They werent going to drop Odemwingie for Vela. I agree that we havent seen the Arshavin of 2 years ago but his form wasnt as bad as people made out.
Arshavin's form slowly degenerated until it really was just awful, where he wasn't doing anything going forward, and giving the ball away dangerously in front of the defence. He looks to be getting better now, and I hope he get's back to what he was.
Vela could have played *with odemwingie, in a 4-4-2, which was very possible with the players WBA had. Di matteo was very complimentary of carlos when he signed him.
@PeterSenderos WBA played 4 5 1 under both DI Matteo and Hodgson. Vela was played on the left but he wasnt that effective out there. He was only effective as a late sub. A front two of Odemwingie and Vela is too lightweight. The english game isnt suited to Vela. He should remain in Spain.
problem with talented guys is that they are all too often lazy, he has bags of talent but is too lazy and 1 dimensional, doesnt hold his own on defensive duties, expects the killer pass. How many times do we see RvP drop deep to help out on defence and still be available in the final 3rd should it break?
@MrRedskins0021 there is no point in scoring 3 goals in a match and opposition scores 5, you still lose. play creation at arsenal has never been an issue, defending has
to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
surprised to see so much support, Vela's easily one of the worst, laziest players ever to put on an arsenal shirt. believe me when i tell you, he's not 1/2 the player bendtner is, and i'm not a fan of bendtner... Vela, despite his speed, never harried any defenders, he'd walk. literally walk around the box despite only coming on at 80mins, he rarely made decent runs, he's got a shooting boot worse than walcott, and you've more chance of a lotto win than him making the correct pass.
@ialvarez357 to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
@ialvarez357 to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
@ialvarez357 to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
@ialvarez357 yeah vela definately needs more than 62 chances on the pitch for Arsenal and 74 chances on loan to prove to Wenger whats hes worth... On a serious note how many chance is he allowed before you realise hes not the player you think he is?
(1) He usually is subbed at arsenal during the last 10 min; 64 of these appearances during 3 years and most are not even league so playing is very inconsistent.
(2) 74 loan appearances was during a 5 year period.
I saw him since he went to arsenal and I sand by my statement. If he's been french Wenger would have been putting him as a starter even w the same stats.
@ialvarez357 I stand by what i said, if he could use his right foot he would be a lot better, but he still wouldn't be Arsenal quality. He is one of the best finishers i have seen and he is very fast but thats as far as he goes.
Bendtner was given a lot more time at arsenal. And now...Chamakh need I say more?
And theo has been given ridiculous amounts of time to prove himself and only last season has he started to play at an "arsenal" quality; which I dont even know what is anymore.
In my opinion, Nasri, Cesc, RVP, and Sanga were the only top quality players we have. and 2 left.
@ialvarez357 Bendtner was given time and he usually performed to an acceptable standard. Chamakh started off well but has tailed off. His personal problems have taken over. There is no way that Vela deserves a place in the Arsenal XII.
@ialvarez357 lol rubbish. So many French players have been "disliked" by Wenger and so moved on. Squilacci is being frozen out atm. Wenger doesnt prefer French players but with the standing he has in France it is easier for him to secure/find out about French players.
@catha86 vela is better than bendter and chamackh he is a finisher he rarely misses a chance but if wenger wsnt being an ass hole and loaning him he would be a word class striker by now
@nartodbz Vela is wosre than both. Is finishing the only aspect of being a striker? Especially with the lone striker that we play. To play upfront on your own you need strength, good work rate, vision, ability to hold the ball up, good link up play etc. Vela has none of these, all he can do is chip. Walcott is Arsenals best finisher by a mile.
@D13ima Man Utd won a trophy with a player who scored 20. We did badly with a striker who got 18 in half a season. It's not just the strikers we need. In fact, van persie is perfect, we just need to find a top class playmaker to set him up, and a partner in attack to share the weight with him.
Vela is always hitting the assist refs
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SUBEN NIVEL Nery Castillo, Carlos Vela, Jonathan Dos Santos, Javier Hernandez, Andrés Guardado......falta Giovanni Dos Santos y Pablo Barrera....aunque en la selección siempre rinden...... y nace una nueva estrella Marco Bueno de Pachuca(3 goles en 2 partidos y dos asistencias, pretendido por Liverpool), atrás al mejor defensa del torneo Hugo Ayala y en España uno de los defensores más pretendidos de Europa Héctor Moreno....tenemos buenos porteros, qué mas queremos para poder ser campeones???
JuanPabloLugo1 2 weeks ago
Do a new video of him vs Barcelona but with the goal he scored. That would be great
1718venom9 2 weeks ago
Do a new video of him vs Barcelona but with the goal he scored.
1718venom9 2 weeks ago
they didn't show his goal
Axel11051 2 weeks ago
How can he be considered a good player he was shit!
jackburty11 2 weeks ago
@jackburty11 He wasnt on form, you idiot.
1718venom9 6 days ago
Seriously, who thinks Walcott, chamakh, or bendtner is better than Vela?
If Vela were French or came from a French team he would've been an undesputed starter.
linuxisbetter0 2 weeks ago 2
Why doesn't Wenger play Vela in the first team? He is better than Chamakh and Bendtner
xiPureTalentz 4 weeks ago 19
@xiPureTalentz he is on loan
insulativetape 2 weeks ago
ES LO QUE NECESSITAN VELA Y DOS SANTOS MAS JUEGO . NUNCA JUEGAN PERO CUANDO LO ASENS LO ASEN MAGNIFICO VIVA MEXICO
aaron12345195 1 month ago
ya esta jugando mejor
macos185 1 month ago
are these the bloopers?
walzort 1 month ago
@walzort Lol. That was an excellent cross with the outside of his left boot toward the end.
redsoxrule145 1 month ago
I didn't see anything good al contrario perdio mucho El balon... esta jugando 2 3 pero va en buen camino
3rdwrldkid 1 month ago
Vela vs Barcelona it is very fanny))))
zakaryayev 1 month ago
go and check the goal he made agains malaga, amazing!!! real sociedad vs malaga 3-2
joalgose24 1 month ago
he is more suited for la liga where the pace is slower.. his technique is terrific but his reactions are too slow .. he's got the potential to be the next eduardo
xxwadalakxx 2 months ago
vela has great talent and potential, shown spurts of brilliance at times. with the right coaching( arsene wenger) and the right enviornment he can be great
InfamousMedia 2 months ago
Vela used to be one of my faviroute players at Arsenal. Him along with the likes of Chamakh we should NOT sell. As I believe if they get the playing time required to get better then they will. I know Chamakh has that injury so mabey not him so much. But everyone saying sell him or he belongs in Spain. Your wrong ( in my opinion ) Arsene just needs to have belief in them. They also need to try harder aswell.
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dablacksquad 2 months ago
wow, so much for hype...time we let him go and move on, Spain is where he belongs. I think we shld learn from this and work harder to see Joel Campbell and Ryo Miyachi fulfill their potentials...at least the OX is already starting to show he can mix it with the big boys.
xoxVIPxox 2 months ago
@xoxVIPxox both Vela and Giovani were completely wasted in the premiere league. I say fuck Arsene and Harry they will never win anything again.
1718venom9 2 months ago 2
@1718venom9 what do you want Wenger to do?? move his legs for him or lock him up in the training ground..I was one his biggest fans, but he never worked hard enough to improve, he disappears from games where he need to prove himself. Take away a couple of lobbed goals against smaller teams, he didnt show anything when it really matter and I was disappointed. So many areas of his game didnt improve, his finishing, passing, speed, movement in the box didnt improve much. He is to blame not Wenger.
xoxVIPxox 2 months ago
@xoxVIPxox I agree with you vela has what he needs to get better but it needs to come from him, u can take a horse to drink water but you cant make him...Not being called by the Mexican Nat. team and getting sold by arsenal hopefully gets a reality check and changes hes attitude and decides to work hard cause if he doesnt i think it will all go downhill from here
mrmiguelito008 2 months ago
@mrmiguelito008 he's on loan, arsenal didn't sell him.
Revok1er 2 months ago
@xoxVIPxox not really he never played unless you think playing 3 minutes in the EPL is showing you something
Revok1er 2 months ago
@xoxVIPxox well thats not what i hear from people in Spain. All he needed was confidence from Arsene and playing time. He should leave arsenal on January.
1718venom9 2 months ago
@1718venom9 I agree that he should leave. He still has time to be a really good player...everyone always want to point at the manager, if the player doesnt impress in training and doesn't show enough hunger, why should he get time over a proven senior player? I wish him success anyways.
xoxVIPxox 2 months ago
pinche montoneros los del barza jajaj 3 contra uno jajjajjja
ciaker9 3 months ago
He is a good player, but he still needs more time to get to a good level
Come on Vela u could do it!
nikeshoehead91 3 months ago
creo que vela tiene inseguridad sebe demasiado tieso en comparación con la selección
dyfler13 3 months ago
1:10 vela ur an idiot... just dont touch the fucking ball
e334343837 3 months ago
@e334343837 guess who is jealous and/or has no life...
TWIGGvsHESKEY 3 months ago
@e334343837 idiot your fucking mother jajajajajaja espero haberlo escrito bien...viva Vela..Viva México!!!
raulmar1968 2 months ago
@raulmar1968 de hecho asi no se dice we, hahaha la neta vela si esta re wey
e334343837 2 months ago
@e334343837 eyt yo pensé que eras gabacho jajajajajaja..veo que somos compatriotas,,saludos pues desde hermosillo, sonora.
raulmar1968 2 months ago
if arsenal sells him is a good thing for him and the club because he is not at arsenals level anymore he is at the level of a mid-table erevidese club or french club
09Neymar 3 months ago
@09Neymar Agree.. They better try with Campbell instead, he recently made a goal against Spain..
rafarafa87 3 months ago
rubbish we need to sell this guy
Arjun261 3 months ago
come on vela! The arsenal 's future!
duonghoang2709 3 months ago
What's the point of being in arsenal if you are alway on loans !
OR MOST OF THE TIME INJURED
19ars92 3 months ago
he still sucks
srinathIND 3 months ago
I don't see anything of Vela!
jesuscales 3 months ago
It seems that Vela got a little bit taller don't you think so guys?
Yoshreder 3 months ago
@Yoshreder Lol he's in spain! Spainards are probably the shortest Europeans!
mexvj 3 months ago
@mexvj What with that? I am not saying it in comparison to the other players, I'm saying his complexion has changed. Not every player is gigantic in the EPL or any other league either btw, it's not basket ball.
Yoshreder 2 months ago
lol gunnnereserves.
cegaytion 3 months ago
Vela over arshavin or wtv anyday
hworkdedication 3 months ago
i feel like if this guy is still goin on loan now, he has no chance at asenal. especially with the likes of Oxlade and Miyaichi waiting in the wings
didiermaza 3 months ago
should never have left gunners, good player
LuvDoco 4 months ago
@LuvDoco he hasn't technically left, he's on loan.
aSH0GUN 4 months ago
@LuvDoco
Actually he is on loan He must show what he got know while in Spain if not its will be over for him at Arsenal .
KeepYourHandup972 4 months ago
i still believe vela's time will come
osg0dun 4 months ago
como k ya no es el mismo del arsenal
ya bajo de nivel
MrKILLERMAN7777 4 months ago
@marko4ever12..I know that! Bendtner is not coming back because he's being a drama queen and carlos is coming back until the end of the season..i just thought it will be a prefect fit but now that theyre gone it isnt going to happen
em1b20vtec89 4 months ago
Bendtner and carlos should of played along V persie this season
em1b20vtec89 4 months ago
@em1b20vtec89 are you an arsenal fan? if so you should know Bendtner is on loan at sunderland for the rest of the season this is coming from a United fan
Marko4ever12 4 months ago
@em1b20vtec89 are you an arsenal fan? if so you should know Bendtner is on loan at sunderland for the rest of the season and vela at real sociedad this is coming from a United fan
Marko4ever12 4 months ago
That was an amazing clearance by Dani Alves, great cross from Vela
iHotiana 5 months ago
Creo que Carlos Vela debe dejar ser un poco indivualista con el balón. Juega bien el tipo.
GerbAg1 5 months ago
It may sound harsh but I really think a mid-league Spanish team is where he belongs. He will get playing time and he will still be playing on a large platform. And the Spanish league suits his build and style of play.
fluffymole0913 5 months ago
@fluffymole0913 WHy do you mean Spanish league suits his build and style of play compare to England??
aguafinatv 5 months ago
@aguafinatv I mean that in the English league you need the skills and speed to get away with not being strong, but in La Liga it does not matter quite as much. So La Liga is more suited to his physical aility.
fluffymole0913 5 months ago
@fluffymole0913 OH I c. But I always thought La Liga was a stonger kind of Football compare to English football. I mean IN Spain you find the best players in the world. I love VELA , he is great.
aguafinatv 5 months ago
@fluffymole0913 I think he should go to Valencia, Villareal or may be even Malaga CF. He would do great in Barca I think, Barca never really have a solid striker role in their team though.
iHotiana 5 months ago
miles better than Chamakh
baron3857 5 months ago
I hope vela gets a chance again. He could be rvp's understudy. Chamakh isnt cutting it, park may go war, Rvp may need rest. We need to petition for Vela. He tore up the carlin cup. WE all love im
kinganr1 5 months ago
It's sad 2 say but vela is fucking lost out there what he needs is a better agent... People dont really think about this but agents have the smarts to negotiate in n out of contracts if the player isn't working out. He needs 2 find a team that really wants him n has a position for him... If he did it when he was in salamanca,osasuna, n some other team I dont remember he could do it again
GUND0M1 5 months ago
Fkn 3 defenders on hin last play lameee
hworkdedication 5 months ago
Poor Vela is doing so bad lately that even Mexico has dropped him from the current roster. I hate seeing this happen to a player with so much talent. Vela is still a great player (in my eyes) but his performance lately has affected his reputation. Arsenal gave him very little to no time, ok, we get that but now that he's on a team with less competition for his place...He should be the star player on this team! Come on Vela step it up man!!!!
fashonthem 5 months ago
@fashonthem no he got dropped cause he was partying before a match
IbZzzz1 2 months ago
@IbZzzz1 LOL Negative.
fashonthem 2 months ago
I watched the whole match and he did all he can as a sub on the wings,
I could tell you now that ''Carlos Vela'' could be a 25-30 goal a season striker but you would laugh, I don't blame you for laughing because there is no way I could prove it, except if I compared him to Hernandez at Man U, He is not a great player, but because Man U play with 2 strikers up top, all he has to do is wait for the other players to give him a chance and he finishes, Vela would thrive in a 4-4-2 formation
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil
Yes, imagine if hernandez were playing on the wing, how well would he do then? I will say though, he does sometimes play up front on his own to good effect (although usually well supported by rooney on the wing)
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos Whenever Hernandez plays up top alone, Rooney is never far behind him working like a horse to feed him as well as Nani, look at the match against Barcelona when Man U were out played in the middle of the park and Hernandez had no one to feed him, it almost seemed like he wasn't on the pitch,
Vela is just unlucky that Arsenal play with only 1 striker
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil
True. Arsenal's centre forward always looks more isolated.
Maybe vela could play up front if he were getting better support from the wide players. His control is good enough.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil Hernandez is a good player. Good at what he does. He is lethal inside the box and his runs are timed to perfection.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian What makes you think Vela cant do that, if giving the chance, he did prove it in the Carling Cup when giving a chance
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil a bunch of players did well in the carling cup when we were playing against poor teams. vela has had chances in the first team and always fails to have an impact.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian coming on 75/80min to play on the Left Wing, how do you expect him to affect the game, the only match in which he came on as a striker, he scored against Bolton
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil he came on as left wing there as well. He cant play upfront on his own and unfortunately for him Arsenal play with one striker up top.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian That is what am saying, you cant play Hernandez up top alone as well, you need someone who would push up and take the pressure off him Rooney, if Arsenal played RVP behind Vela am sure he would bag 25+ goals a season
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil I dont see why Arsenal should change the formation for Vela. That would make no sense. If Wenger did switch to 4 4 2, Walcott would be my pick above Vela all day everyday. Vela should have gone on loan to a PL club. If he impresses on loan then by all means he should be given a chance. But if he keeps playing like he is now then sell him.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian 4-4-2 then we have a choice of
RVP-Walcott
Vela-Bendtner
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil Bendtnder isnt coming back to the club. He will be sold and thats a shame because he is decent. Cant rely on Vela to be the main goal scoring threat though.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian From today's result 4-4-2 is a must
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil that wont stop the awful defending. 3 goals should be enough to win mosst matches. conceding 4 is unforgiveable.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian Those 3 goals conceded are just madness, unexplainable errors, that wouldn't even happen to the worst defenders in the world, our players are just low on confidence and need a boost, the media are not helping as well,
Liverpool lose 4-0 and the media give them a break that we never get, funny thing is we are doing well in Europe away from the English media, 3 matches W 2 - D 1 - L 0
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@gmanakadezil completely agree. the media love Dalgleish and so wont comment on their bad performances. people are forgetting that they are only 3 points above us. our start to the season has been awful. theres has been apparently amazing yet only 3 points separate us.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian I was watching the match and thinking to myself Carroll plus Henderson equals 55mill lOOL , bad tactics as well, leaving Kuyt and Bellamy on the bench when Carroll and Henderson were doing nothing
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian Also ''Park-Chamakh''
gmanakadezil 5 months ago
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gmanakadezil 5 months ago
what song is playing?
thnks!!
garciaj08 5 months ago
Carlos Vela- World beater in the carling cup and pre season friendlies. I don't think he's ever produced when the chips are down for us. And he's had more than enough opportunities. Those he say he hasn't been given enough starts... there's a reason he hasn't started more games, it's not a conspiracy against Vela. He's just not done enough to justify being a starter.
pumter 5 months ago
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"he's had more than enough opportunities. Those he say he hasn't been given enough starts... there's a reason he hasn't started more games"
Isn't that a contradiction?
He was a world beater up front in a 4-4-2, not so good on the left. He was not as bad last season for arsenal or WBA as he is looking so far here in Spain. He will get better when he settles.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
"He's just not done enough to justify being a starter."
How often can you say that about anyone? Had flamini done enough to justify being a starter? Someone has to take a chance on him at some point.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos When you are given chances you've got to impress and earn your starts, it's as simple as that. Flamini did, Vela hasn't.
pumter 5 months ago
@pumter
flamini had looked average in CM, and only did a good job at fullback before the start of the 07 season, but wenger put him straight into the side, and persisted with him. He was right to do so, but vela has never had half the chances flamini had. Theo is a better comparison in truth. He was allowed to play like crap for 2 or 3 years, but stayed in the team almost whenever he was fit, but vela was restricted to a few sub appearances.
Velas real chances came in the CC,and he DID take them
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos Theo actually has a workrate. He is always chasing back and he has a clear role/tactic in the team. Bend his runs into the middle so he is almost playing as a Striker. Velas work rate is poor and add to the that the fact that he cant play upfront on his own
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian
The workrate thing is a myth, and theo only increased his own workrate after a year of playing in the side. He also improved his movement off the ball after playing in the side for a long time, which vela has never had the chance to develop. Neither can play up front alone. Theo is more natural as an attacking winger, whereas vela is a more natural striker, but really needs a CF to play off of. The formation change has been unkind to vela.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos The theo work rate thing isnt a myth. That why Wenger preferred him to Arshavin in the big games. Because he covers the full back. Vela is lazy in that respect. Walcott was chasing people down in the first Carling Cup final agaisnt Chelsea. Your a fool. Theo is a natural striker. Striker has always been his position. They both need to play off a striker though. Vela got his chance towards the end of the season before last and he didnt take it.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian
I meant the vela work rate thing is a myth. Theo did start working noticeably harder after about a year or so in the first team. (Oh wow, he worked hard in a cup final, how unusual).
Theo played on the wing a lot for southampton before we signed him. I would like to see him tried up front as well, playing off someone else, as you say, but to say it's always been his position is a bit ridiculous.
Btw, writing "your a fool" is hilariously ironic.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos It isnt a myth. Countless times ive us lose the ball and then Vela not even chasing or getting back to try and win it back. He is a luxury player and atm not a very good one. Im saying Theo workrate can never be doubted as he is always chasing down players. Theo has and always will be a striker. He wasnt tried on the wing for Southampton, he was played upfront. its a fact, he says it himself. Vela needs to leave Arsenal.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
He hasn't even played countless times, and the vast majority of those times have been from the bench.The only times I don't see him chasing round is when he's clearly short of confidence,and I've never seen it cost us anything. I don't want to bash theo anymore-I like him and he's vastly improved.Compare vela to arshavin instead.He works harder than him, generally,and I really don't think his goalscoring and play would be any worse if he were to play the same amount,plus there's room to improve.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos He has played over 50 times. Thats alot. The likes of Jay Simpson, JET etc have all been shipped out with less than a handful of games. He never chases around, he is a lazy player. He had so much potential but hasnt applied it. Him and Arshavin work about the same as eachother. But then Arshavin offers goals from midfield, ability to beat players, not afraid to shoot, vision and countless assists. Arshavin is miles ahead of Vela.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
He may have played that many times, but how often from the start?How many times for more than 10 minutes even?And don't forget a lot of times when he did start, he scored or assisted (they have been almost entirely in the carling cup so far).
"He never chases around, he is a lazy player"-well if you say so.
Arshavin doesn't offer goals from midfield because he doesn't play as a midfielder.Vela does work harder than him, and *probably scores or assists at about the same regularity.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos Its not if i say os, its clear to see that his work rate is poor. The season before last he started a few games towards the end of the season and he failed to impress. The Carling Cup isnt a good basis because they were often against lower league opposiotion. Arshavin got the most assits for us and offered around 12 goals from that attacking mid position. He was the 2nd highest goal scorer for s last year. Vela doesnt score or assitst with the same regularity.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
Also vela doesn't constantly give the ball away in front of the defence, as arshavin has been doing for the past 6 months.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos an out of form Arshavin is better than an inform Vela. He couldnt make the starting eleven for West Brom.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
An in-form vela was destroying PL teams in the carling cup with a bunch of other reserves. An out of form vela still scores/assists as frequently as arshavin. The out-of-form arshavin was consistently contributing nothing to the attack, while constantly giving the ball away in front of the defence. If you can't evne admit that vela would have been at least as good as arshavin over the past 6 months, there's no point continuing.
Vela would probably have played more for WBA had dimatteo stayed.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos Yes but Di Matteo didnt stay. So there is no point arguing that. Arshavin has contributed nothing to the attack???? He got the most assists and goals out of all of our wide men. More than Walcott, more than Nasri. He contributed to attack a great deal. He didnt contribute to the defence. His bad form seems to be coming to an end now anyway and he was impressive yday. Arshavin got our 2nd most goals and assists last year. Vela couldnt even get a game.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
It is a valid point because dimateo was the one who signed vela whereas it seems hodgson didn't want him. Vela was unlucky there.
Arshavin did ok at the START of last season. For the past 6-8months, he's been awful. Yes he is getting better, I hope he is starting to recapture some of his form, but I'm still waiting to see the arshavin we signed.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos Di matteo signed him but was he ever going to be anything more than a back up to Odemwingie?? They werent going to drop Odemwingie for Vela. I agree that we havent seen the Arshavin of 2 years ago but his form wasnt as bad as people made out.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian
Arshavin's form slowly degenerated until it really was just awful, where he wasn't doing anything going forward, and giving the ball away dangerously in front of the defence. He looks to be getting better now, and I hope he get's back to what he was.
Vela could have played *with odemwingie, in a 4-4-2, which was very possible with the players WBA had. Di matteo was very complimentary of carlos when he signed him.
PeterSenderos 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos WBA played 4 5 1 under both DI Matteo and Hodgson. Vela was played on the left but he wasnt that effective out there. He was only effective as a late sub. A front two of Odemwingie and Vela is too lightweight. The english game isnt suited to Vela. He should remain in Spain.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@PeterSenderos yeah, but also arsen was giving him compliments, but he never played him. by the way whatever happened with chamak?
zetally 5 months ago
Is the audio from a Heatbeat set?
samlew18 5 months ago
problem with talented guys is that they are all too often lazy, he has bags of talent but is too lazy and 1 dimensional, doesnt hold his own on defensive duties, expects the killer pass. How many times do we see RvP drop deep to help out on defence and still be available in the final 3rd should it break?
zvamada 5 months ago 19
@zvamada The worse thing is that he isn't really that good either.
MrShitstirer 5 months ago
@zvamada Watch the real sociedad games before you comment, he always goes down to help the defense mate.
Humberto323 5 months ago
@zvamada Man U scored 8 goals on your stupid arsenal and your talking about defense? Atleast he will create plays that can lead to scores.
MrRedskins0021 4 months ago
@MrRedskins0021 there is no point in scoring 3 goals in a match and opposition scores 5, you still lose. play creation at arsenal has never been an issue, defending has
zvamada 4 months ago
@zvamada too right.
twoscoops1000 4 months ago
@zvamada damn right
TaZmaC1337 4 months ago
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to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
MrFubbels 5 months ago
surprised to see so much support, Vela's easily one of the worst, laziest players ever to put on an arsenal shirt. believe me when i tell you, he's not 1/2 the player bendtner is, and i'm not a fan of bendtner... Vela, despite his speed, never harried any defenders, he'd walk. literally walk around the box despite only coming on at 80mins, he rarely made decent runs, he's got a shooting boot worse than walcott, and you've more chance of a lotto win than him making the correct pass.
MrFubbels 5 months ago
I'm so angry at how he was managed. He has always showed glimpses of brilliance as a starter or coming from the bench.
How the hell is he supposed mold into a great striker if never given the time on the pitch?
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@ialvarez357 to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
MrFubbels 5 months ago
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@ialvarez357 to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
MrFubbels 5 months ago
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@ialvarez357 to be fair, he's not gonna make a great striker based on 1:12 and lets not kid ourselves, that, for vela, was close. the kid is lazy, there's no other word for it. you want the definition of wage player. vela was it. sure he can chip a keeper. but he's like a walcott without the pace, bad decisions, terrible shot, not enough match-day skill. the closest Vela should have ever been to the first team, was watching them on MOTD.
MrFubbels 5 months ago
@ialvarez357 maybe if he and his agent weren't greedy and had gone to bolton then he could have been in our team right now and not Chamak
indaks007 5 months ago
@ialvarez357 yeah vela definately needs more than 62 chances on the pitch for Arsenal and 74 chances on loan to prove to Wenger whats hes worth... On a serious note how many chance is he allowed before you realise hes not the player you think he is?
gtemp2008 5 months ago
@gtemp2008
(1) He usually is subbed at arsenal during the last 10 min; 64 of these appearances during 3 years and most are not even league so playing is very inconsistent.
(2) 74 loan appearances was during a 5 year period.
I saw him since he went to arsenal and I sand by my statement. If he's been french Wenger would have been putting him as a starter even w the same stats.
ialvarez357 5 months ago
@ialvarez357 I stand by what i said, if he could use his right foot he would be a lot better, but he still wouldn't be Arsenal quality. He is one of the best finishers i have seen and he is very fast but thats as far as he goes.
gtemp2008 5 months ago
@gtemp2008
Bendtner was given a lot more time at arsenal. And now...Chamakh need I say more?
And theo has been given ridiculous amounts of time to prove himself and only last season has he started to play at an "arsenal" quality; which I dont even know what is anymore.
In my opinion, Nasri, Cesc, RVP, and Sanga were the only top quality players we have. and 2 left.
ialvarez357 5 months ago
@ialvarez357 Bendtner was given time and he usually performed to an acceptable standard. Chamakh started off well but has tailed off. His personal problems have taken over. There is no way that Vela deserves a place in the Arsenal XII.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@ialvarez357 lol rubbish. So many French players have been "disliked" by Wenger and so moved on. Squilacci is being frozen out atm. Wenger doesnt prefer French players but with the standing he has in France it is easier for him to secure/find out about French players.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@TheFlygerian
Squilacci fucking sucks omg.
ialvarez357 5 months ago
@ialvarez357 where did i say he was good? looks like you know i was right though.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@ialvarez357 Robin van Persie...
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IIIGR1Z 5 months ago
I hope he can turn out to become a good winger in the mould of david silva/sanchez in a couple of years time.
hamsta891 5 months ago
I can't see Vela progress at Arsenal any more :( I had highly hopes for him a few years ago.
catha86 5 months ago
@catha86 vela is better than bendter and chamackh he is a finisher he rarely misses a chance but if wenger wsnt being an ass hole and loaning him he would be a word class striker by now
nartodbz 5 months ago
@nartodbz Vela is wosre than both. Is finishing the only aspect of being a striker? Especially with the lone striker that we play. To play upfront on your own you need strength, good work rate, vision, ability to hold the ball up, good link up play etc. Vela has none of these, all he can do is chip. Walcott is Arsenals best finisher by a mile.
TheFlygerian 5 months ago
@catha86 Agree.. We will not win a trophy without a striker that can score more than 30 goals a season!!! (Thierry Henry)!
D13ima 5 months ago
@D13ima Man Utd won a trophy with a player who scored 20. We did badly with a striker who got 18 in half a season. It's not just the strikers we need. In fact, van persie is perfect, we just need to find a top class playmaker to set him up, and a partner in attack to share the weight with him.
fluffymole0913 5 months ago