we are brothers i know the uyghurs are waiting for revence i know ottoman turks are waked up i know evrey Turkic Turania is there to fight nobody cant beat TURAN PEOPEL WE ARE 1#
While I watched this video I recognized that Us Turanians have got one of the greatest and most beautiful history in the wide world. I am proud to be Turanian!
ok good point sry for the Hungarian and I found it in english.
Also found a Tomb study …
Google this: Hungarians = European Ice Age refugees
Starts hungarian then genetics is english
This is my translation so not perfect.:)
„ The vesratile history of the people can be revealed by complex human and natural science, with archeology,antropology,lingistic,ethography,genetics,aincent echology."
Not mention archeology all you told me is a fishing net ..to support your theory ywhich is not Wiiks..:)
Lol at the Viking tarder story , they were smart traders …. I don’t want to go into religions but aincent pegans Fins had their OWN uniqe religion not foreign gods/beleifs …
Mansi people refused to gave up their aincent relgion and they were almost completely wiped out, Mansi population still very low…
-Did you look at the fish-net? And as I have said, ALL the evidence. There has been and still is archaeological excavations and they do offer great info. One that you both ignore and deny, it seems.
-I accept the current information, you do not. Therefore the burden of proof is on your shoulders.
Don't you preach me about Finnic religions. That religion is alive and well, I should know.
-But you bypassed the fact that religion is a poor excuse to tie up connections of people.
Mindez azt jelenti, hogy a jelenlegi magyar férfiak 93,3 %-a négy ősapától ered, és 73,3 %-a már az őskőkorszakban a Kárpát-medencében élt férfiak utódja." (Dr. Czeizel Endre: )..”
„urali népekre jellemző TAT (EU13+EU14)jelű gén a magyarokból teljesen hiányzik..”
geneticcs Eu19 marker…Ural genes missing…
70% already lived in Carphatian Basin male descendants…
accorindg to genetics Magyar is aincet European so you deny genetics?
-Religous beliefs travel past kinships, areas and nations. Religion is the single most inaccurate example you could have picked, and that is a direct pointer towards your knowledge.
I can provide you an interesting example on that; Viking traders converted into Muslims because it improved trade. Later back home, they simply denied that faith in the eyes of their gods. Yet, there is evidence that some Vikings were Muslim. Some evidence of similar values...
-I do know about the `White Huns´, I actually look into matters.
But the burden of proof is on YOUR side.
-You will have to prove that Finnics, Ugri, Finno-Ugri, Eesti and Sámi have the genetics of these `White Huns´.
-Moreover, you will have to present archaeological evidence on their migration and influence here, and you will have to bend time ten Millenia to fit the `White Huns´ as my forefathers.
It's impossible, but by all means.. stand behind your claims.
-I don't have to present evidence, as I am in agreenment with the current data. You are nnot, but fail to present yourself,
-"Which tomb" ...Any tomb! ANY evidence.
-I have been kind enough to type in english, feel free to do the same, or I'll simply start copy-pasting Finnish data. That would not be very ideal standpoint, now would it?
So, make a new post, have the language as english.
Cute... You are the one who has denied genetic studies, do not attempt to switch the matter
-Give archaeological evidence. Actually this is what I like the best..:) first domesticated reeinders in n.eruope?
Give Genetic evidence. sry can't but "my version" is similar
becasue you have to have higher frequency aincent eruopean genes which you have..
But forget all the B.s. , look at Mansi they have BEAR as holy animal so aincent Pegan Finns also had Bear as holy animal so you had very similar religions means you knew eachother for sure so the culutral relation is evident...
You made an evasion, yet again. Simply admit your lack of knowledge.
-Raindeers are not fully domesticated, and Sámi culture is akin to a hunter-gatheres. There are no genetic evidence that they are related with anything remotely Hunnic. (and what is Hunnic to begin with)
-And what evidence did you just present? Nothing.
Religion is the worst possible argument. Religions move more than languages.
Present factual evidence to back up your claims on `White Huns´.
-You then might want to read entries on the Basque, Sámi and Finns. After reading those, and looking at the genetics information, you are one step closer to a epiphany.
-Modern era hungarians are not the people who lived there. Tomb DNA is the key here.
You seem to imagine that Reindeer domestication means that then `White Huns´ arrived up North.
-You have no evidence and no information on this, however. Thus, it's your imagination against historical information.
@ArmaFennica imagine it like a puzzle all the pieces have to fit you only see a piece of the puzzle even with 100% acucrate gentics, of course it all have to fit so "my theory" can't contradict genetics...
+ Genetics is just pure science data you can interept it many ways if you don't know history...
Hungraians have High frequency 40,000 year old aincent european hunter gatherer genes so looking genetics only then majority of the Magyars always lived in Carpahtian Basin ....
-Indeed, genetics are pure scientific data, debunking old historical fallacies which tried to promote own "race" kingdom or nation. We really have far better historical data thanks to the scientific method. More that is needed.
Magyar theory you have is not what genetics tells us. You really are something if you don't even know your own history. The tomb excavations have proven that people who lived in the area are not the same as modern era population.
„there are around 700 million speakers of Indo-European languages (about 97 per cent of Europeans), about 22 million Finno-Ugrians (including the Hungarians, Finns and Estonians, 3 per cent of the European total), and about 1.7 million Basques (0.2 per cent)..”
97% almost complete culturall assimilation , For example: Bulgar is Hun yet they have slavic lanaguge thx to Byzants conversion.... so it was all Forced...
-Going on and on about languages. Without the understanding that languages change, they are adopted, used and changed. It is already a proven matter that Finno-Ugrians and Finnics have commonalities, but that Magyar and Finnics do not have any. Language is not guarantee of relation.
You would think that DNA mapping of ancient tombs would present some nice data. Use them, such studies are being made in Hungary.
-Do read on the archaeology of Aryans. They were just one of the many kins migrating into Europe (and elsewhere), and they were not in fact Germanics. Germanic Indo-Euopeans were not born when the migration was happening.
You do understand that via genetics, we can actually view the complex matters in history. Especially so, when archaelogical evidence of certain group/trive/kinship is mapped.
Languages have been used in history, and that is faulty. As evident with Finns.
-THERE IS NO ARYAN KINSHIP!!!!! Once there was an Indo-European tribe, but that is assimilated.
You failed yet again.
-Finnish studies have presented clear genetic map of our origins and composition. (our genetic mapping comes from medicine)
Historians (history of languages) agree that Finnics changed their language quite recently. Using language as base of claims is utterly faulty and should never be used, because it offers false information.
Oh mighty Turan! the rest of the world is trying to hide our greatness, our pyramids in china, our intelligence, our ancient people! they have called us diffrent names so they try to confuse us and say we are a mixed people and not relative! but dont heed those western faggots (not hungary, bosnia ) I hope we one day unite! and you can see the jealousy and fear of other nationalities!
This sounds like Aryan Propaganda and it’s 100% b.s.:
" The peoples of the northern area were hunter-fisher-gatherers who spoke Finno-Ugrian languages…”
„The peoples of central and southern Europe were farmer-herdsmen who spoke Indo-European languages..”
Actually I like all histroy but not into north eruope that much so I didn’t know saying Lapp could be kind of insult which is lol.. shouldn’t be. but good to know I will say Suoma is also White Hun tirbe..:)...
Your argument is that Sámi kins are actually White Huns.
¤I demand scientific data to back up this claim. Genetics, archaeological findings, connections...anything.
¤I want to know how the time-warp can function, as Sámi kin was in the North there about 10000 years (give or take few hundered years) before White Huns. Wrong era, wrong area.
And to remind you, Indo-Europeans are young compared to Basque, Finns and Sámi.
You still go on and on about Wiik, when I made clear that I do not follow that theory, because it is WRONG.
-We have the latest information at hand, use it. This latest information presents clear picture of Finnish origins and they are documented. You do the studies, just for once.
Then come back with that information.
In addition, where is your evidence on `White Huns´ being the Sámi and Finnics?
-Point is not and has not been that who created the first civilization. You just made it up.
You continue on Raindeers...
-OK, then, prove that your theory on `White Huns´ is valid! If you can't, then you must accept the fact that maybe Sámi themselves eventually domesticated some animals. And bear in mind that Raindeers are not in fact fully domesticated.
Sámi culture began when their migration took them up North.
PROVE your claim. Prove that your claim on those kins is valid!
-And pray tell, how does Aryan ideology/Aryan tribe (assimilated into numerous areas, long gone) link into this? It does not, therefore you are trying to craft yet another stawman argument.
domesticated animals/agriculure are very important to estabilsh a culture/cilviztaion so I think reindeers are the best sign for the start of northen eruo civ …. To live north without reindeers aincet times is not good imo...
Ok here is what happened in nutshell, Huns migrated north with domesticated Reindeers setteled and mixed with the local aboriginal fishing people and became one….
so the hunter gatherers and Huns have to be gentically related...
Yet, there is not a shread of evidence on that theory of yours on Huns. Genetics, archaeological evidence and history of Sámi themselves speaks against your notion.
-There is, however, evidence on Sámi originating from the Southern areas of Europe.
very hard to communciate with you… I wanted to hear your theory so far you said nothing…
What is your theory again? south eruope?
You deny so many sciencetific fatcs yet you claim to be all scientific….ROFL..
In case you forgot HUN lanaguage is related to Fin etc lots of evidences pls do some more research and not just genetics it won’t tell you much about history….
lol read wiki
Sami peoples
"Their best known means of livelihood is semi-nomadic reindeer herding..."
-My theory????? I have none. I have studied history, and put my trust on the people who conduct modern archaeological studies with tools of modern era research. I accept the current theory on Sámi and Proto-Finnics. If you do not know the theories on that subject, why do you assume we must accept your personal notions as facts?
I have not denied ANY scientific evidence, unlike you claim, however you have presented wild claims with no foundations.
-Show some manner of evidence that Hun language is related to Finnish.
...And even if it was, you should know that filological connections do not mean connections of kinships/history. That is where archaeology and genetics come into play.
You quote Wiki, but fail to check the timelines. Which in turn tells quite a lot of the weight of your claims.
-Do see the timelines of the Huns, then compare them to both Finnics and Sámi.
-Oh, you just made me very pissed off... I do NOT take kindly on people putting words in my mouth, you have done so, TWICE. Both occations, to try to build a strawman argument.
Now, topics at hand...(I am trying to keep calm, you bag of..)
-Your posts have been evasions and excuses. TYou have jno scientific data to back your wild claims, and you try to paint my pointers as Wiik's theories. You are one weak person.
Lets start the deconstruction of your claims, theories etc..
-Wiik's theory is a narrow point of view, without the whole information at hand. Partially due to the fact that genetics was not yet a tool for archaeology when he made his theory.
-Wiik's theory is based on linguistics, as are previous theories. The new, scientific archaeology has already sunk the old theories as non-issues, do NOT lean on those.
I am not on the same lines as Wiik, therefore your strawman argument is totally invalid.
peoples of the Eurasian arctic and subarctic (such as the Sayan, Sami and Tungus), by about 1000 BC.”
„ It is thought that the first domestication of reindeer was accomplished about 5,000 years ago by the people of the Altai Mountain region of the Russian / Mongolian border …”
based on this the earliest migration to North Eruope with Reeindeers happened around 3000B.C….
This just few points...
I just wanted to hear your theory …thx but I don’t want to arque or convince….
I can understand why you turks love East Asia. China & Japan are world no 2 & 3 economies, South Korea top 15. We have the big cities of Tokyo/Seoul/Shanghai/HK/Beijing/Taipei. And the ethnic Chinese city of Singapore. What do Turks have? Kebab sellers and Muslim terrorists. I do feel sorry for you sometimes.
But stop associating yourselves with us!! We have nothing in common.
You know, killing civilians, raping civilians and establishing what you call "empires" is nothing to be proud of. It involves extreme violence - murder, theft, and genocide. There's nothing wrong with loving who you are, but there IS something wrong in taking pride in destruction and genocide.
@KhagarBalugrak I suppose you didn't understand the "Turanian Soul", isn't it ?
Show me one scene in the video whith the word "kill".
Btw. Genocide is what is West doing at the moment in Palästina Irak Afghanistan and did in Somalia, Japan, Vietnam, especially with 100.000.000 Mio.Native Americans.
@IdelUralState, you know, I absolutely oppose what the West is doing to Iraq and Afghanistan, and what it did to the Native Americans. But this video clearly shows that you are proud that your ancestors "conquered" so much - and conquering involves killing and genocide, doesn't it? It's a sick euphemism for the worst kind of mass murder. Your video does encourage Turanians to be proud of the fact their ancestors conquered - which is mass killing.
@IdelUralState I thought you are a hipocryte, but calling historian facts ''myths'' opened my eyes you are just crazy, nobody except of your mongoloid relatives will ever take you serious.
Nope the real ones not your paranoid fantasy of germans and slavs related to turk mongoloid shit.
@Wofka1986 You should know that the "Blue Book" regarding the armenian genocide was a fake, Arnold Toynbee confessed in a later work, The Western Question in Greece and Turkey (1922, p. 50), that the “Blue Book” was a piece of war propaganda.
Istanbul's built by Ogur Turks.Anatolian people were proto-turkic like troyans,sumerians. Etruscan also built rome,athens..You greeks are also Turkic people but you are not aware of that.You invade anatolia and istanbul but u think it belong to you:)You mixed many times with Turanian in the history.Your alphabet,mythologhy,symbols are also turkic descended.Today Turkish have %95 native anatolian(proto-turk) and %5 oghuz-turk DNA.All places u mention are %100 Turkic not Greek.
Gypsies are indo-european people like you,and they are not bad people,they live their lives seperately in peace like hippies.They are cool people,not like you brainwashed ignorant stupids:))EU doesnt want you in europe anymore they wanna kick you out of european union because of your economy:))Turanian people were etruscans,troyans,sumerians,ottomans..They are the most civilized and powerful people ever.You are the slaves of egypt thats why u have %30 african dna:)
@zzeynepp18 My dear friend. There is no hope for these greek idiots. Don't waste your time with such donkeys. Gunesi Balcikla sivayamazlar. Oguzhan (Zulkarneyn)'in dunya egemenligine az bir zaman kaldi. Avrupalilar koklerinin turkler olduklarini biliyorlar fakat siyonismin isine gelmiyor. Cindeki turklerin yuzlerce pramitleri var, maya, sumer turkce konusuyor. genetic bilimi beyaz irkin soyunun geldigi ozbek sulalayi tesbit etti (videoma bak).
aslında bu manyak yahudiler de hazar türklerinin soyundan geliyorlar artık tam anlamıyla semitik ırk değiller zaten tiplerinden de belli, bunu yahudi bilim adamları bile kabul ettiler ama bundan bahsetmek işlerine gelmiyor. Birgün kabul edecekler eninde sonunda:)avrupa artık geriye saymaya başladı,dengeler değişiyor, biz anlatırız anlamazlarsa:)
the real owners of so called greek and so called greek islands all belong to Turanians not to africans like you, you are living in our lands you must appriciate that or in the future you will regret that:)
@Wofka1986 yeah yeah i know u want to feel our giant Turkish cock inside your tight pussies but forgive me i cant, coz i dont fuck animalls like u:). it is clear that teaching you has no effect . you will never learn.and you will never evolve and that is why you the pathetic slavs,greeks or whatever are all still subhumans. i bet you have a black ass with a realy SMALL DICK that is why u hold all that anger against TURKS.
@zzeynepp18 anlamaz, anlatamazsın bunlara bilimsel gerçekleri çünkü adamlar koşullanmışlar türk düşmanlığına sen desen ki dünya yuvarlak yinede inanmaz çünkü bir türk söylüyor diye.bunların anlayacağı dil malumunuz kötektir :) yanlış anlama sana akıl vermek gibi niyetim yok sadece düşüncemi ifade ettim.dur sen kulaklarını kapat ben onun anlayacağı dilden konuşurum:))
@Wofka1986 Look who is talking! You bloody greeks , your country looks like one of this subsaharan african kingdom. Your artificial culture like russian culture were created specifically to create a barrier between eastern TURANIAN and WESTERN turanian cultures! you are such a waste of time! go to hell!
@Wofka1986 You are helpless you basterd! Why the fuck you got stuck on that Turks come from central asia? we were allways here, and in europe, middle east, south america. watch the video I posted in youtube!
@Wofka1986 Only thing that you greek gipsies invented is the infamous "greek style!" because of your love for greek boys with the skirts :) , all the rest were stolen culture;
Alphabet from Italians, Etruskians
Architechure from German, Romans
History from Egypt,
Mythology from Turkish speaking sumerians
Food from anywhere you can travel! Baklava, musakka, yogurt,
You guys even got screwed by a tiny tribe of Alexander the gay from Macedonia. Go and hide, instead of talking shit.
@Wofka1986 Greek is your ass: Dont' get confused little boy. If it wasn't for Turks generosity for several hundred years, you wouldn't speak your stolen language! watch your mouth before talk against Turanians! You must be thankful and obey the higher culture!
@Bultuush1 This video is not only representative for Turks but also other Turanian Peoples like HUNgarian and Mongolians. In 6:30 you can see many members of Turan.
Ok, so lemme get this straight... "Pan-Turanians" want to create a huge, unified nation of Uralo-Turkic peoples out of pre-existing countries? Or do you want a confederation of states? How would it be administered? where would the capital be? what about religion? Weren't the original Uralo-Turkic peoples Tengriist? Aren't most of the Turkic countries Muslim? What about Hungarians and Fins/Estonia/Latvian/Lithuanian Christians? What is the commonality between all these people? I don't get it...
It doesnt matter, the European Turanians are Christian, Turkic people are mainly muslim, Koreans and Japanese have their own religion, Khazar Empire was jewish, religion doesnt bind us, its the race and our noble Turanian blood in us.
Unite.. Unite... Unite. They start to rob every peace of our cultural heritage from Etruria, Mesopotamia, Siberia, up to Great Uyghur civilization.. everything that shows mother of the human culture were carried throughout the world by Turanians, is stolen, hidden, demolished, twisted, falsified. They do every develish act to cover the world treasure. . So unite, build commissions, scientific teams and defend the righteous.. so unite as Great Bilge Khan ordered.. unite and survive.
@kovaxpi all these "greetings" and "regards" back and forth.. I suspect they're only exchanges between Turkish Muslim vermin in keeping up their little act. If you've noticed, white people & east asians don't use cheesy words like "greetings". To the native English speaker, you've given your act right away.
@couchpotato25 american idiot, we are turanian and diferent religion is not important to us. We proud of to be Turanian, we proud of our history, our ancestors are important to us. we should belive built seculer union beetween Turks, Hungarains, Koreans, Japaneses, Finnish...WE WILL AGANIST TO OUR ENEMIES. Are we vermin in keeping up our secret missions. Just we have got one mission wake up our brothers and sisters and help with them. LONG LIVE GREAT TURAN!!!
Drop Finnics from your fantasy, we are not related in any way. You rely on very outdated and proven wrong studies, most recent ones are far better.
-Neither should you scream about any brotherhoods, as we saw in the past that not only did you not support the supposed "brothers", but allowed them to be taken by the Soviets. Some willingness to fight...
Great Turan is a dream of impossible union. Nothing in common with the nations and people. Not a thing.
@ArmaFennica I saw your comments anywhere which videos releated with Turan. You talk about past this is true. Soviet occupancy were terrible tragedy of both Hungary and Finland. Also have you got any idea what did soviets (stalin)do Khazakistan, Azerbaijan, Khirgizistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Gagavuz or others. There were millions Türk killed by them. There were millions people must move to other area from their main lands. Soviets changed their alphabets (
-On Russia. We were not occupied, because Finns fought hard and long against the Soviets.
-Tsars Russia was actually kind towards us, as we were not part of Russia, but under sirect control of the Tsar. The Russian Tsars are seen as good people here.
I have to voice the facts. I have to repeat the false notions on Turanism, simply because they ARE false. Swedes nearly managed to destroy our entire heritage, and therefore we value the truth. No matter what it is.
@ArmaFennica from runic alphabet and latin alphanet to cyrillic. Because they didn't want to Turkics understanding Turkish press. Türkiye couldn't make anyting. We were lost our power afther the world war 1. Then millions turkish died to turkish liberation war, we fought Britania, French, Italians, Indians, Austurains, Greeks on same time. then we won our liberation again. But our county look like under the cylinder. What do you think how could we help with you.
@ArmaFennica We don't need frozen Finland or Estonia where under the ice. . We haven't been benefit from your side.Just we try cominicate and built link with you. Maybe you don't accept that but your ancestor miggrated central assia and sibiria to scandinavia. You are son of proto tranoid (andronova, afanesiyevo, proto turkic). I'm sure you'll show finno ugric dna arrangements. I don't need that. If you open your half slanting eyes you can see your reel brothers. I don't understand you.
-I have no idea from which false notion to begin with you...
¤We Finnis are actually not from where you think. The most recent studies on geneology have proven that we are one of the first Europeans among Sámi and Basque. From two "refugi"-areas.
¤We Finnic have no slanting eyes, nor do we originate from Asia.
"Under the Ice" -what?
-We are hardy people from the North, yes. We have been here since the Glacier retreated and thus older than you think.
@ArmaFennica You are not authority of Finland. I have lots of finnish friends on my real life who work my company's finland office.don't worry we explain our mission all of them and they support that. Maybe this is not possible now for building a union with you.
Your "union" has no unifying factor. Your dream is to lump various kinships, religions and world-views into one, and that is not possible.
-Furthermore, Finns are science-oriented. If there is no connection to speak of, vast majority is going to reject your claim and idea.
That few Finns thought you have a good idea, is simply irrelevant. I suspect they did not know about the lack of connections between the various kinships?
@ArmaFennica Yesterday I met up with some finnish in a business dinner. But we will make that step by step, we talk all person who member of turanic nation. We meet up with Hungarians with Kurultaj on Hungary. Time is comming soon, no one can stop turanic red apple ideal. Hajra TURAN!!!
Most of the people who want this Turan simply want too many kinships togther. And even IF such union would emerge, do you honestly think that Turks would not try to impose themselves as leaders?
-Do you ignore the cultural traits of each kinship and nation?
-Do you ignore religious mindsets of others?
-Do you ignore the fact that people cannot understand eachothers due to the languages?
What do you actually have in your hands? What solid basis you try to strive from?
@ArmaFennica Yes I agree :), if something goes against scientific fact then it's not true .. I hope you are not confusing outdated scientific theories(like finn-ugor etc..) with scientific facts. So what's your theory?:) "We have been here since the Glacier retreated " when was that? 4000B.C.? .. you mean you lived north as hunter-gatheres in caves ? Sry but Lapps are White Huns all the evidences point towards this… For example: „The bear was a sacred animal to the Finnish pagans…”
Lets see... your post is filled with veiled insults and downright condescending attitude, but I will answer to your questions nontheless.
¤Finno-Ugric theory was initially tied to similarities in language. Filological connections are not valid, but as the genetics go, Finnics and Ugri are indeed related.
¤The Glacier retreated several Millenia before you seem to think. Finnish swamps give detailed and accurate timeline, feel free to see that one yourself.
¤I did not actually give any insight on living up here, you made that part up. But Jurtas and tents are seen as the earliest dwelling places by the Proto-Finnics. They were mainly fishermen in the very beginning.
¤Lapps, the Sámi-kin are NOT what you claim. They are one group of the original Europeans, not the White Huns you'd want them to be. But do present your side of the argument. Give genetics, insight, migration routes etc...
I find it odd that you would think that domesticated animals would be required for hunting-gatherers.
-Why would mobile people in Taiga-like areas or in ancient archipelago NEED domesticated animals?
Horse/Raindeer are recent additions as is animal husbandry in general.
But we do have items from the times of Glacier retreat. We have worlds oldest fisihn net, as to point out the supposed means of survival for the Proto-Finnic peoples.
You are talking about the first appearance of humans(hunter gahtrers) after the ice age in north.
the aincent european hunter gatheres lived in caves/pits not yurta but it’s not the point…you confused me with the yurta(hun word) these pepople didn’t really have any culture indentity yet…
Yes they had some primitve tools that’s it so fishing net is very high tech tool + it’s logical without good fhising skills it’s impossible to stay alive north….
We Finns are the descendant of the first people who migrated Northwards, following the Glacier...
-So therefore we indeed can survive in the North without caves, as we do not have them. Also, there is no need to have domesticated animals in order to survive here, unlike you would seem to think. But you are a Southerner, so I am not surprised that you do not know better.
...Cultural identity is a recent phenomenon. Such ideologies were not tainting the early Europeans.
@ArmaFennica My dear Finnish Brother/Friend..Please, if you dont accept our ideal just close this page..Its not that hard..I respect your opinions and you had the chance to mention them here..But what we Turanians think won`t change..We have different languages, different religions, different looks but we are Bound By Blood..Its not a matter of unification by borders..Its a matter of unification in awareness..Thank you
-Well, first off; I respect your calm and inteeligent answer. It's a far cry from most other Turanists I have had the pleasure to `talk´ to.
What I am against in Turanism, is the fact that evidence to support it, is not there.
When confronted this lack of matters to present, most Turanists start bashing and screaming. Defensive mechanism to mask the lack of proof/connections.
Other issue is the ideology of supremacy which comes along with Turanism.
@BronzePlaque uh uh I'm from Singapore, which has a GDP per capita three time of Turkey. so on average, I'm worth 3x more than you ;) very coincidentally I am Han Chinese, at least you got that right. your Muslim & Turk brothers clean toilets in Singapore. Muslim vermin are the underclass of the world - kebab sellers in Europe, thieves and crooks in China, bombers in the USA and toilet cleaners in Singapore. who would want to associate with you? ;)
United Turanian Brother Hood, We are top of the food chain United Wolf Pack, keep up the good work always looking out for your great videos, thank you
Her Ülkücü, Türk Milliyetçisi, Vatansever Turancı olmak zorundadır. Din ve mezhep ayrımı olmaksızın tüm türkleri tekrar bir çatı altında toplamak Bilge Kağanın bize vasiyetidir. Toprak olarak tek bir devlet haline gelemzsekte Avrupa Birliği benzeri Turan Birliğini kurmamız gerekmektedir.TTK.
AMA MALESEF TÜRKIYEDE KI TÜRKLER HELE GENCLER TURANIN ANLAMINI BILE BILMIYOR KI HEP SEKS HAYATI OLMUS ORALARI ALMANYA TÜRKÜ OLARAK ÜZÜLDÜM BU YAZ TATILINDE
command will be mad wolves
that day will come
arising from the sun
the story will never end
blade408 1 month ago
we are brothers i know the uyghurs are waiting for revence i know ottoman turks are waked up i know evrey Turkic Turania is there to fight nobody cant beat TURAN PEOPEL WE ARE 1#
Polofreak6n2 1 month ago
i proud to be Hun turkic . Hi all turanian brothers
metetrus 3 months ago
Kardasim ellerine saglik cok cok güzel olmus...
Esenlikler olsun.
UluTimucin 5 months ago
GREETINGS TO MY TURANIAN BROTHERS,
WE HAVE ONLY ONE REAL ENEMY!
SIONIZM!
zulkarneynification 8 months ago 2
@zulkarneynification
nah sionizm... o da var ama asıl büyük düşman arap emperyalizmi!!! araplaşmayın!
gozgezarpacik 7 months ago
While I watched this video I recognized that Us Turanians have got one of the greatest and most beautiful history in the wide world. I am proud to be Turanian!
Greetings from Budapest, Hungary.
DanielVonPalota 10 months ago 2
Perfect !!!
metetrus 11 months ago
we have to unite now or never.............the time has come.........
greetings from Hungary
MsMagi77 11 months ago 15
@MsMagi77 yeah letz begin a united turanian nation..
you see the arabs.. we can make it better... NOW 2012 its time..
MaLiveMaRulesMaGun 1 month ago
@JohnGoldboom
You like Wiki? Then read entries on Finns and Sámi, as it seems you have done neither.
How on earth can you tie up Sumerians with Mansi???? That is absurd without proven evidence.
Make your case, show clear evidence that `White Huns´ are the same as Finnic Finns, Sámi, Eesti, Finno-Ugri and Ugri.
-You have made an extraordinary claim, now back it up.
Or, read the entries on genetics, see the lack of connections and admit mistake.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
ok good point sry for the Hungarian and I found it in english.
Also found a Tomb study …
Google this: Hungarians = European Ice Age refugees
Starts hungarian then genetics is english
This is my translation so not perfect.:)
„ The vesratile history of the people can be revealed by complex human and natural science, with archeology,antropology,lingistic,ethography,genetics,aincent echology."
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
You denied lignusitic evidences now gentics too…
Not mention archeology all you told me is a fishing net ..to support your theory ywhich is not Wiiks..:)
Lol at the Viking tarder story , they were smart traders …. I don’t want to go into religions but aincent pegans Fins had their OWN uniqe religion not foreign gods/beleifs …
Mansi people refused to gave up their aincent relgion and they were almost completely wiped out, Mansi population still very low…
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Did you look at the fish-net? And as I have said, ALL the evidence. There has been and still is archaeological excavations and they do offer great info. One that you both ignore and deny, it seems.
-I accept the current information, you do not. Therefore the burden of proof is on your shoulders.
Don't you preach me about Finnic religions. That religion is alive and well, I should know.
-But you bypassed the fact that religion is a poor excuse to tie up connections of people.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
- és 8,9 %-a az EU-4 ősapa utóda.
Mindez azt jelenti, hogy a jelenlegi magyar férfiak 93,3 %-a négy ősapától ered, és 73,3 %-a már az őskőkorszakban a Kárpát-medencében élt férfiak utódja." (Dr. Czeizel Endre: )..”
„urali népekre jellemző TAT (EU13+EU14)jelű gén a magyarokból teljesen hiányzik..”
geneticcs Eu19 marker…Ural genes missing…
70% already lived in Carphatian Basin male descendants…
accorindg to genetics Magyar is aincet European so you deny genetics?
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
I said domesticated never said fully..:)
stil helped a lot fully or not…
Relgions proves you a lot means you lived by similar values etc…so proves cultural relation
all the aincet religions were destroyed….
The new religions were forced on people…
Judeo-Christans in Europe converted everybody....today still Judeo values dominate it’s based on greed/growth…
Hun culutre is totally different than Judeo….
Ok here is some of info on Huns:
Huns lived in China way before Xia Dynasty…
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Religous beliefs travel past kinships, areas and nations. Religion is the single most inaccurate example you could have picked, and that is a direct pointer towards your knowledge.
I can provide you an interesting example on that; Viking traders converted into Muslims because it improved trade. Later back home, they simply denied that faith in the eyes of their gods. Yet, there is evidence that some Vikings were Muslim. Some evidence of similar values...
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-I do know about the `White Huns´, I actually look into matters.
But the burden of proof is on YOUR side.
-You will have to prove that Finnics, Ugri, Finno-Ugri, Eesti and Sámi have the genetics of these `White Huns´.
-Moreover, you will have to present archaeological evidence on their migration and influence here, and you will have to bend time ten Millenia to fit the `White Huns´ as my forefathers.
It's impossible, but by all means.. stand behind your claims.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
„-Modern era hungarians are not the people who lived there. Tomb DNA is the key here…”
LOL you keep asking evidences from me yet you present none.
When?Which tomb? Etc..
Here is genetic study: you might understand some:
„A 2000-ben elvégzett Semino-féle, genetikai vizsgálatsorozat, Y-kromoszómás kutatási eredményei szerint:
"-A magyar férfiak 60 %-a az EU-19-es - őskőkorszakbeli - ősapa leszármazottja.
-A magyar férfiak további 13,3 %-a az EU-18,
-11 %-a az EU-7,
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-I don't have to present evidence, as I am in agreenment with the current data. You are nnot, but fail to present yourself,
-"Which tomb" ...Any tomb! ANY evidence.
-I have been kind enough to type in english, feel free to do the same, or I'll simply start copy-pasting Finnish data. That would not be very ideal standpoint, now would it?
So, make a new post, have the language as english.
Cute... You are the one who has denied genetic studies, do not attempt to switch the matter
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
-Give archaeological evidence. Actually this is what I like the best..:) first domesticated reeinders in n.eruope?
Give Genetic evidence. sry can't but "my version" is similar
becasue you have to have higher frequency aincent eruopean genes which you have..
But forget all the B.s. , look at Mansi they have BEAR as holy animal so aincent Pegan Finns also had Bear as holy animal so you had very similar religions means you knew eachother for sure so the culutral relation is evident...
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
You made an evasion, yet again. Simply admit your lack of knowledge.
-Raindeers are not fully domesticated, and Sámi culture is akin to a hunter-gatheres. There are no genetic evidence that they are related with anything remotely Hunnic. (and what is Hunnic to begin with)
-And what evidence did you just present? Nothing.
Religion is the worst possible argument. Religions move more than languages.
Present factual evidence to back up your claims on `White Huns´.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
„The tomb excavations have proven that people who lived in the area are not the same as modern era population..” When?Where?
I just said genetic proves Magyar is related to aincent europeans, you deny that?…
sry it’s in hungraian I googled it quick won1t copy paste it..
Point is that gentically Hungarian is aincet european…
Ukrain and Croatian is the two gentically closest …
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-You then might want to read entries on the Basque, Sámi and Finns. After reading those, and looking at the genetics information, you are one step closer to a epiphany.
-Modern era hungarians are not the people who lived there. Tomb DNA is the key here.
You seem to imagine that Reindeer domestication means that then `White Huns´ arrived up North.
-You have no evidence and no information on this, however. Thus, it's your imagination against historical information.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
History is far more compicated as you think..
so you say Magyar and Finn is 100% not related? actually you have to do this because Magyar totally complicates it lol...
and yes not really any commonalities I agree...
I told you I don't want to convince or argue so poinltess..
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
...You have the audacity to tell ME that History is a complex matter. When you yourself speak of things you do not understand.
¤You claim that Finnics/Finno-Ugri and Ugri are `White Huns´ and ignore timelines and genetic evidence.
¤You claim that Sámi are `White Huns´ and ignore timelines and genetics.
Present your evidence that your claim is true.
-Give archaeological evidence.
-Give Genetic evidence.
-Give any evidence to back up your claim or admit that you have none.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica imagine it like a puzzle all the pieces have to fit you only see a piece of the puzzle even with 100% acucrate gentics, of course it all have to fit so "my theory" can't contradict genetics...
+ Genetics is just pure science data you can interept it many ways if you don't know history...
Hungraians have High frequency 40,000 year old aincent european hunter gatherer genes so looking genetics only then majority of the Magyars always lived in Carpahtian Basin ....
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Indeed, genetics are pure scientific data, debunking old historical fallacies which tried to promote own "race" kingdom or nation. We really have far better historical data thanks to the scientific method. More that is needed.
Magyar theory you have is not what genetics tells us. You really are something if you don't even know your own history. The tomb excavations have proven that people who lived in the area are not the same as modern era population.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
This is what happened in Eruope:
„there are around 700 million speakers of Indo-European languages (about 97 per cent of Europeans), about 22 million Finno-Ugrians (including the Hungarians, Finns and Estonians, 3 per cent of the European total), and about 1.7 million Basques (0.2 per cent)..”
97% almost complete culturall assimilation , For example: Bulgar is Hun yet they have slavic lanaguge thx to Byzants conversion.... so it was all Forced...
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Going on and on about languages. Without the understanding that languages change, they are adopted, used and changed. It is already a proven matter that Finno-Ugrians and Finnics have commonalities, but that Magyar and Finnics do not have any. Language is not guarantee of relation.
You would think that DNA mapping of ancient tombs would present some nice data. Use them, such studies are being made in Hungary.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
I just said sounds like propganda chineese or ayan don't pick on words ...
It sounds like bullshit forget aryan..
Actaully Aryans(ancestors of germanics etc...) livied in India/Himalaja region aincet times.:) so far from Eruope...
Sanskrit etc...
Looking at genetics only is like trying to solve a puzzle with one piece so Good luck..
I totally disagrre because lanaguages can be used for history...
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Do read on the archaeology of Aryans. They were just one of the many kins migrating into Europe (and elsewhere), and they were not in fact Germanics. Germanic Indo-Euopeans were not born when the migration was happening.
You do understand that via genetics, we can actually view the complex matters in history. Especially so, when archaelogical evidence of certain group/trive/kinship is mapped.
Languages have been used in history, and that is faulty. As evident with Finns.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
„-And pray tell..” "Aryan propaganda"
This sounds ok to you?:
" The peoples of the northern area were hunter-fisher-gatherers who spoke Finno-Ugrian languages…”
„The peoples of central and southern Europe were farmer-herdsmen who spoke Indo-European languages..”
It sounds like total b.s. to me …
Sumer,Egypt,Etrusc etc all agglutinative languages… not Indo-Euroepan ..
it’s like saying Semitic was teaching Sumer/Egypt LOL…
or Latin was teaching Etrusc Rofl…
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-THERE IS NO ARYAN KINSHIP!!!!! Once there was an Indo-European tribe, but that is assimilated.
You failed yet again.
-Finnish studies have presented clear genetic map of our origins and composition. (our genetic mapping comes from medicine)
Historians (history of languages) agree that Finnics changed their language quite recently. Using language as base of claims is utterly faulty and should never be used, because it offers false information.
But you still use languages...
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
Oh mighty Turan! the rest of the world is trying to hide our greatness, our pyramids in china, our intelligence, our ancient people! they have called us diffrent names so they try to confuse us and say we are a mixed people and not relative! but dont heed those western faggots (not hungary, bosnia ) I hope we one day unite! and you can see the jealousy and fear of other nationalities!
FightforDeath34 1 year ago
This sounds like Aryan Propaganda and it’s 100% b.s.:
" The peoples of the northern area were hunter-fisher-gatherers who spoke Finno-Ugrian languages…”
„The peoples of central and southern Europe were farmer-herdsmen who spoke Indo-European languages..”
Actually I like all histroy but not into north eruope that much so I didn’t know saying Lapp could be kind of insult which is lol.. shouldn’t be. but good to know I will say Suoma is also White Hun tirbe..:)...
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
Your argument is that Sámi kins are actually White Huns.
¤I demand scientific data to back up this claim. Genetics, archaeological findings, connections...anything.
¤I want to know how the time-warp can function, as Sámi kin was in the North there about 10000 years (give or take few hundered years) before White Huns. Wrong era, wrong area.
And to remind you, Indo-Europeans are young compared to Basque, Finns and Sámi.
Suoma (Finnics?) are also white Huns???
-Evidence, please.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
LOL no reason to be pissed…
Wikipedia:
„He also bases much of his hypothetical structures on results of genetics…” it’s mainly genetics actually….
„I am not on the same lines as Wiik”
ok sry but you said very similar things…
like this:
Wiik:
„ ancestors of the Finns lived during the Ice Age in one of three habitable areas of southern Europe, so-called refugia, …
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Don't put words into other peoples mouths, then.
You still go on and on about Wiik, when I made clear that I do not follow that theory, because it is WRONG.
-We have the latest information at hand, use it. This latest information presents clear picture of Finnish origins and they are documented. You do the studies, just for once.
Then come back with that information.
In addition, where is your evidence on `White Huns´ being the Sámi and Finnics?
-Where is it????
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
I said ok sry but it was very similar so …
„ Indo-Europeans are young compared to Basque, Finns and Sámi.”
Yes but it’s not the point ….the point is that who developed first civilization..
Who and when tought the Sami reeinder domestication?
I still think Reeinder doemstiction is very important event that’s when Sami culture starts.
Lapp,Lív,Suoma,Észt(Estonian), Vepsze(Vespians,Veps) …. all Hun tribes.
Sry but too long/comlicated to explaine..:)
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Point is not and has not been that who created the first civilization. You just made it up.
You continue on Raindeers...
-OK, then, prove that your theory on `White Huns´ is valid! If you can't, then you must accept the fact that maybe Sámi themselves eventually domesticated some animals. And bear in mind that Raindeers are not in fact fully domesticated.
Sámi culture began when their migration took them up North.
PROVE your claim. Prove that your claim on those kins is valid!
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
"Aryan propaganda"
-And pray tell, how does Aryan ideology/Aryan tribe (assimilated into numerous areas, long gone) link into this? It does not, therefore you are trying to craft yet another stawman argument.
@JohnGoldboom
-Study the timelines before making such wild assertions.
-Make some evidence known to back your wild claims, or back the f¤¤k down.
-Don't EVER put words into other peoples mouths.
-Study the new Genetic studies, it will help.
Until you do, stay away.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
domesticated animals/agriculure are very important to estabilsh a culture/cilviztaion so I think reindeers are the best sign for the start of northen eruo civ …. To live north without reindeers aincet times is not good imo...
Ok here is what happened in nutshell, Huns migrated north with domesticated Reindeers setteled and mixed with the local aboriginal fishing people and became one….
so the hunter gatherers and Huns have to be gentically related...
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
Yet, there is not a shread of evidence on that theory of yours on Huns. Genetics, archaeological evidence and history of Sámi themselves speaks against your notion.
-There is, however, evidence on Sámi originating from the Southern areas of Europe.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
very hard to communciate with you… I wanted to hear your theory so far you said nothing…
What is your theory again? south eruope?
You deny so many sciencetific fatcs yet you claim to be all scientific….ROFL..
In case you forgot HUN lanaguage is related to Fin etc lots of evidences pls do some more research and not just genetics it won’t tell you much about history….
lol read wiki
Sami peoples
"Their best known means of livelihood is semi-nomadic reindeer herding..."
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-My theory????? I have none. I have studied history, and put my trust on the people who conduct modern archaeological studies with tools of modern era research. I accept the current theory on Sámi and Proto-Finnics. If you do not know the theories on that subject, why do you assume we must accept your personal notions as facts?
I have not denied ANY scientific evidence, unlike you claim, however you have presented wild claims with no foundations.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Show some manner of evidence that Hun language is related to Finnish.
...And even if it was, you should know that filological connections do not mean connections of kinships/history. That is where archaeology and genetics come into play.
You quote Wiki, but fail to check the timelines. Which in turn tells quite a lot of the weight of your claims.
-Do see the timelines of the Huns, then compare them to both Finnics and Sámi.
Come back once you can prove your claim.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
"your theory" is Kalevi Wiik"s ...
I’ve made a 2-3page long answer with many quotes...
but pointless to post whole I think....
I've read it and don’t like it at all..
few quotes:
„ recent and controversial theory…”
„a claim not fully supported by any genetic evidence…”
„The possible linguistic substrate in Germanic seems to have nothing in common with Uralic languages…”
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Oh, you just made me very pissed off... I do NOT take kindly on people putting words in my mouth, you have done so, TWICE. Both occations, to try to build a strawman argument.
Now, topics at hand...(I am trying to keep calm, you bag of..)
-Your posts have been evasions and excuses. TYou have jno scientific data to back your wild claims, and you try to paint my pointers as Wiik's theories. You are one weak person.
Lets start the deconstruction of your claims, theories etc..
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
-Wiik's theory is a narrow point of view, without the whole information at hand. Partially due to the fact that genetics was not yet a tool for archaeology when he made his theory.
-Wiik's theory is based on linguistics, as are previous theories. The new, scientific archaeology has already sunk the old theories as non-issues, do NOT lean on those.
I am not on the same lines as Wiik, therefore your strawman argument is totally invalid.
But lets try to go back on YOUR claims.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
You should focuse on when and how the hunter gathrers got their culutral idenitiy religion/customs/langauge etc…
For me history is about cultures/stories not genetics, of course genetic evidence counts…
Why I think domesticated reindeers are important:
About hunter gathreers life:
To rely on hunting/fishing only is not easy… This is why the hunter-gatheres remained primitve living in caves since they were busy staying alive…
They were fighting eachother for hunting grounds too
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
¤Cultural identity -Recent phenomenon and not required to live up in the North.
¤Religion -Paganistic shamanistic religion, not required for survival in the North.
¤Language -Not the same as what our ancestors had. Finnics actually changed into another language rather recently.
You would need to have Genetic evidence to prove that White Huns are the same as Sámi-kinship.
-You lack all manner of evidence.
Here is that false notion on caves again.
-Study stone age cultures...
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
peoples of the Eurasian arctic and subarctic (such as the Sayan, Sami and Tungus), by about 1000 BC.”
„ It is thought that the first domestication of reindeer was accomplished about 5,000 years ago by the people of the Altai Mountain region of the Russian / Mongolian border …”
based on this the earliest migration to North Eruope with Reeindeers happened around 3000B.C….
This just few points...
I just wanted to hear your theory …thx but I don’t want to arque or convince….
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
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delidumrul57 1 year ago
Respect from Turkey!
protxt 1 year ago
Very Good Video!
Greetings from Hungary, the Westernmost Turanian.
5*****
slytopp 1 year ago
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I can understand why you turks love East Asia. China & Japan are world no 2 & 3 economies, South Korea top 15. We have the big cities of Tokyo/Seoul/Shanghai/HK/Beijing/Taipei. And the ethnic Chinese city of Singapore. What do Turks have? Kebab sellers and Muslim terrorists. I do feel sorry for you sometimes.
But stop associating yourselves with us!! We have nothing in common.
couchpotato25 1 year ago
@couchpotato25 fuck you
XxcrazygurrlxX 2 weeks ago
Azərbaycandan Bütün Turan xalqlarına esenlikler!
Hails from Azerbaijan Turks to all Turanian nations!
AzerbaycanTurkustan 1 year ago
FUCK RUSSIA
FUCK CHINA
FUCK THE U.S.A.
FUCK ARABIA
NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DIYENE
nubertdinho 1 year ago 4
@IdelUralState, when Turan is reality, i plead that you become the first minister of propaganda :)) The movies are very exiting. Go on my brother !
Ergenekonulusu 1 year ago
You know, killing civilians, raping civilians and establishing what you call "empires" is nothing to be proud of. It involves extreme violence - murder, theft, and genocide. There's nothing wrong with loving who you are, but there IS something wrong in taking pride in destruction and genocide.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@KhagarBalugrak I suppose you didn't understand the "Turanian Soul", isn't it ?
Show me one scene in the video whith the word "kill".
Btw. Genocide is what is West doing at the moment in Palästina Irak Afghanistan and did in Somalia, Japan, Vietnam, especially with 100.000.000 Mio.Native Americans.
IdelUralState 1 year ago 11
@IdelUralState, you know, I absolutely oppose what the West is doing to Iraq and Afghanistan, and what it did to the Native Americans. But this video clearly shows that you are proud that your ancestors "conquered" so much - and conquering involves killing and genocide, doesn't it? It's a sick euphemism for the worst kind of mass murder. Your video does encourage Turanians to be proud of the fact their ancestors conquered - which is mass killing.
KhagarBalugrak 1 year ago
@IdelUralState Armenian,Assyrian,Greek genocide done by turks.
Wofka1986 5 months ago
@Wofka1986 all so called genocides are myths, nothing more.
IdelUralState 5 months ago
@IdelUralState I thought you are a hipocryte, but calling historian facts ''myths'' opened my eyes you are just crazy, nobody except of your mongoloid relatives will ever take you serious.
Nope the real ones not your paranoid fantasy of germans and slavs related to turk mongoloid shit.
Wofka1986 5 months ago
@Wofka1986 You should know that the "Blue Book" regarding the armenian genocide was a fake, Arnold Toynbee confessed in a later work, The Western Question in Greece and Turkey (1922, p. 50), that the “Blue Book” was a piece of war propaganda.
P.S. we are Haplogroup R1a not C.
IdelUralState 5 months ago
@Wofka1986 hell yeaaahhh i am taking ideluralstate deadly serious.ur ignorance has no limits.anything else u slav lover.
yamtartheturk 4 months ago
@yamtartheturk Turkgipsy go back to asian steppe were you came from CONSTANTINOPLE IS GREEK!
PONTUS IS GREEK! MICRA ASIA IS GREEK!
CYPRUS IS GREEK!
Wofka1986 4 months ago
@Wofka1986 whatttt!!!! are u crazy???why should ı go back to middle asia?we came all the way for fucking greek girls or others.zu ha ha
greeks in istanbul got fucked by us in 1453
greeks in pontus got fucked by us in 1461
greeks in cyprus got fucked us in 1974
anything else. the next please.
yamtartheturk 4 months ago 10
@Wofka1986
Istanbul's built by Ogur Turks.Anatolian people were proto-turkic like troyans,sumerians. Etruscan also built rome,athens..You greeks are also Turkic people but you are not aware of that.You invade anatolia and istanbul but u think it belong to you:)You mixed many times with Turanian in the history.Your alphabet,mythologhy,symbols are also turkic descended.Today Turkish have %95 native anatolian(proto-turk) and %5 oghuz-turk DNA.All places u mention are %100 Turkic not Greek.
zzeynepp18 4 months ago
@zzeynepp18 Dream on turk mongrel, shame of the eastern steppe.
Wofka1986 4 months ago
@Wofka1986
you owe everything you have to Turanian civilizations,shame on you!you are living in a dream,in a fake history,keep being ignorant!
zzeynepp18 4 months ago
@zzeynepp18 You turanian gipsy can't even take a shit in sitting position, you are the most pathetic faggots ive ever met on youtube.
Nobody in europe wants you, nobody give a shit about you and nobody owes you anything.
You are rediclious imposters nothing more.
Wofka1986 4 months ago
@Wofka1986
Gypsies are indo-european people like you,and they are not bad people,they live their lives seperately in peace like hippies.They are cool people,not like you brainwashed ignorant stupids:))EU doesnt want you in europe anymore they wanna kick you out of european union because of your economy:))Turanian people were etruscans,troyans,sumerians,ottomans..They are the most civilized and powerful people ever.You are the slaves of egypt thats why u have %30 african dna:)
zzeynepp18 4 months ago
@zzeynepp18 My dear friend. There is no hope for these greek idiots. Don't waste your time with such donkeys. Gunesi Balcikla sivayamazlar. Oguzhan (Zulkarneyn)'in dunya egemenligine az bir zaman kaldi. Avrupalilar koklerinin turkler olduklarini biliyorlar fakat siyonismin isine gelmiyor. Cindeki turklerin yuzlerce pramitleri var, maya, sumer turkce konusuyor. genetic bilimi beyaz irkin soyunun geldigi ozbek sulalayi tesbit etti (videoma bak).
zulkarneynification 2 weeks ago
@zulkarneynification
aslında bu manyak yahudiler de hazar türklerinin soyundan geliyorlar artık tam anlamıyla semitik ırk değiller zaten tiplerinden de belli, bunu yahudi bilim adamları bile kabul ettiler ama bundan bahsetmek işlerine gelmiyor. Birgün kabul edecekler eninde sonunda:)avrupa artık geriye saymaya başladı,dengeler değişiyor, biz anlatırız anlamazlarsa:)
zzeynepp18 5 days ago
@Wofka1986
the real owners of so called greek and so called greek islands all belong to Turanians not to africans like you, you are living in our lands you must appriciate that or in the future you will regret that:)
zzeynepp18 4 months ago
@zzeynepp18 Your ''land'' was a tent in asian steppe were a donkey accidently fucked gipsy whore.
Wofka1986 4 months ago
@Wofka1986 yeah yeah i know u want to feel our giant Turkish cock inside your tight pussies but forgive me i cant, coz i dont fuck animalls like u:). it is clear that teaching you has no effect . you will never learn.and you will never evolve and that is why you the pathetic slavs,greeks or whatever are all still subhumans. i bet you have a black ass with a realy SMALL DICK that is why u hold all that anger against TURKS.
yamtartheturk 4 months ago
@Wofka1986
our tent is the SKY, our land is the EARTH.
zzeynepp18 4 months ago 2
@zzeynepp18 anlamaz, anlatamazsın bunlara bilimsel gerçekleri çünkü adamlar koşullanmışlar türk düşmanlığına sen desen ki dünya yuvarlak yinede inanmaz çünkü bir türk söylüyor diye.bunların anlayacağı dil malumunuz kötektir :) yanlış anlama sana akıl vermek gibi niyetim yok sadece düşüncemi ifade ettim.dur sen kulaklarını kapat ben onun anlayacağı dilden konuşurum:))
yamtartheturk 4 months ago
@Wofka1986 suka ya tvayu mamu ebal v jopu,,gandon valiu naxuy otsuda,russian swine
Azerbaijanian768 2 months ago
@Wofka1986 Look who is talking! You bloody greeks , your country looks like one of this subsaharan african kingdom. Your artificial culture like russian culture were created specifically to create a barrier between eastern TURANIAN and WESTERN turanian cultures! you are such a waste of time! go to hell!
zulkarneynification 2 weeks ago
@Wofka1986 You are helpless you basterd! Why the fuck you got stuck on that Turks come from central asia? we were allways here, and in europe, middle east, south america. watch the video I posted in youtube!
zulkarneynification 2 weeks ago
@Wofka1986 Only thing that you greek gipsies invented is the infamous "greek style!" because of your love for greek boys with the skirts :) , all the rest were stolen culture;
Alphabet from Italians, Etruskians
Architechure from German, Romans
History from Egypt,
Mythology from Turkish speaking sumerians
Food from anywhere you can travel! Baklava, musakka, yogurt,
You guys even got screwed by a tiny tribe of Alexander the gay from Macedonia. Go and hide, instead of talking shit.
zulkarneynification 2 weeks ago
@Wofka1986 Greek is your ass: Dont' get confused little boy. If it wasn't for Turks generosity for several hundred years, you wouldn't speak your stolen language! watch your mouth before talk against Turanians! You must be thankful and obey the higher culture!
zulkarneynification 2 weeks ago
@KhagarBalugrak lol name me 1 empire in history that didnt kill people?
buyukyarak200 1 year ago
cok cok cok güzel Video, aferim!!!! cok süper!!!!!!
nubertdinho 1 year ago
En büyük Türk Halkler!! DILDE FIKIDE ISTE BIRLIK TÜRK ARKADASLAR!!! HEDEF BÜYÜK TÜRKISTAN!
nubertdinho 1 year ago
turanim senin askin ateslendi kahraman kalbimde
kiz gibisin nur yüzlüm,
senin icin savasirim, senin icin calisirim
SENIN ICIN NICE ATESLERDE YÜRÜRÜM
avrupaaymis dalga gecme,
turanim senin yüzün nur! senin yüzün ak. tertemiz.
lekelendirtmem kahraman ak yüzlü turanimi hain avrupalilardan
senin icin yürürüm nice ateslerde
almanyada yasayan tüklerden bol selamlar!!!
allah türkü korusun we yüceltsin!
CcCTuranidCcC 1 year ago
what is the name of the song.??
Sarkinin adi ne.?
punkboyful 1 year ago
Long live Hun brotherhood! Hungarian, Finnish and Turks unite!
TheRealKivanchK 1 year ago
Excellent video!
Greetings to the brothers from HUNgary/Magyarország/Macaristan!
ricsi99999 1 year ago
@IdelUralState on this video only turks, were others????!
Bultuush1 1 year ago
@Bultuush1 This video is not only representative for Turks but also other Turanian Peoples like HUNgarian and Mongolians. In 6:30 you can see many members of Turan.
IdelUralState 1 year ago
Ne Mutlu TURK'um Diyene!
TheTuranid 1 year ago
REUNITEEEEEEEEEEEE
SultanUyghur 1 year ago
Greetings from Koreans to all of our brothers.....
klee4 1 year ago 12
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where i go...i go alone!where i fight..i fight alone, god send me to earth.
i am..i am..iam a TURK!Hail Turks!Hail Gray Wolwes!Hail Brave Soldiers =Turk
Greetings From Turkey
brutallic100 1 year ago
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where i go...i go alone!where i fight..i fight alone, god send me to earth.
i am..i am..iam a TURK!Hail Turks!Hail Gray Wolwes!Hail Brave Soldiers =Turk
Greetings From Turkey
brutallic100 1 year ago
yep! eu don't have future. no energy, very high median age... we(turks) need ties with our turanian brothers..
CRAZYHARPOON 1 year ago 5
Ok, so lemme get this straight... "Pan-Turanians" want to create a huge, unified nation of Uralo-Turkic peoples out of pre-existing countries? Or do you want a confederation of states? How would it be administered? where would the capital be? what about religion? Weren't the original Uralo-Turkic peoples Tengriist? Aren't most of the Turkic countries Muslim? What about Hungarians and Fins/Estonia/Latvian/Lithuanian Christians? What is the commonality between all these people? I don't get it...
prinznevsky 1 year ago
@prinznevsky
It doesnt matter, the European Turanians are Christian, Turkic people are mainly muslim, Koreans and Japanese have their own religion, Khazar Empire was jewish, religion doesnt bind us, its the race and our noble Turanian blood in us.
TheVideoTurk 1 year ago
Unite.. Unite... Unite. They start to rob every peace of our cultural heritage from Etruria, Mesopotamia, Siberia, up to Great Uyghur civilization.. everything that shows mother of the human culture were carried throughout the world by Turanians, is stolen, hidden, demolished, twisted, falsified. They do every develish act to cover the world treasure. . So unite, build commissions, scientific teams and defend the righteous.. so unite as Great Bilge Khan ordered.. unite and survive.
deeptuber109 2 years ago 7
Hi from Slavic people to noble Turanian people.! :)
Slovjan 2 years ago 9
@Slovjan
greetings back to slavic people ;)
IdelUralState 2 years ago
Hi from turaniaorg
cengoduman 2 years ago 4
Best Regards from the most western Turianians the Hungarians !
Madiaristan ! Hungary!
kovaxpi 2 years ago 24
@kovaxpi Long live our Magyar brothers!!! Respect you from Azerbaijan!
vusalaliyev2009 1 year ago 4
@kovaxpi all these "greetings" and "regards" back and forth.. I suspect they're only exchanges between Turkish Muslim vermin in keeping up their little act. If you've noticed, white people & east asians don't use cheesy words like "greetings". To the native English speaker, you've given your act right away.
Get out of Europe, muslim vermin.
couchpotato25 1 year ago
@couchpotato25 american idiot, we are turanian and diferent religion is not important to us. We proud of to be Turanian, we proud of our history, our ancestors are important to us. we should belive built seculer union beetween Turks, Hungarains, Koreans, Japaneses, Finnish...WE WILL AGANIST TO OUR ENEMIES. Are we vermin in keeping up our secret missions. Just we have got one mission wake up our brothers and sisters and help with them. LONG LIVE GREAT TURAN!!!
ceyhunPak 1 year ago
@ceyhunPak
Drop Finnics from your fantasy, we are not related in any way. You rely on very outdated and proven wrong studies, most recent ones are far better.
-Neither should you scream about any brotherhoods, as we saw in the past that not only did you not support the supposed "brothers", but allowed them to be taken by the Soviets. Some willingness to fight...
Great Turan is a dream of impossible union. Nothing in common with the nations and people. Not a thing.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica I invite you to Kurultáj 2011 in Hungary.
/watch?v=kmNkBlEelNw
IdelUralState 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica I saw your comments anywhere which videos releated with Turan. You talk about past this is true. Soviet occupancy were terrible tragedy of both Hungary and Finland. Also have you got any idea what did soviets (stalin)do Khazakistan, Azerbaijan, Khirgizistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Gagavuz or others. There were millions Türk killed by them. There were millions people must move to other area from their main lands. Soviets changed their alphabets (
ceyhunPak 1 year ago
@ceyhunPak
-On Russia. We were not occupied, because Finns fought hard and long against the Soviets.
-Tsars Russia was actually kind towards us, as we were not part of Russia, but under sirect control of the Tsar. The Russian Tsars are seen as good people here.
I have to voice the facts. I have to repeat the false notions on Turanism, simply because they ARE false. Swedes nearly managed to destroy our entire heritage, and therefore we value the truth. No matter what it is.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica from runic alphabet and latin alphanet to cyrillic. Because they didn't want to Turkics understanding Turkish press. Türkiye couldn't make anyting. We were lost our power afther the world war 1. Then millions turkish died to turkish liberation war, we fought Britania, French, Italians, Indians, Austurains, Greeks on same time. then we won our liberation again. But our county look like under the cylinder. What do you think how could we help with you.
ceyhunPak 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica We don't need frozen Finland or Estonia where under the ice. . We haven't been benefit from your side.Just we try cominicate and built link with you. Maybe you don't accept that but your ancestor miggrated central assia and sibiria to scandinavia. You are son of proto tranoid (andronova, afanesiyevo, proto turkic). I'm sure you'll show finno ugric dna arrangements. I don't need that. If you open your half slanting eyes you can see your reel brothers. I don't understand you.
ceyhunPak 1 year ago
@ceyhunPak
-I have no idea from which false notion to begin with you...
¤We Finnis are actually not from where you think. The most recent studies on geneology have proven that we are one of the first Europeans among Sámi and Basque. From two "refugi"-areas.
¤We Finnic have no slanting eyes, nor do we originate from Asia.
"Under the Ice" -what?
-We are hardy people from the North, yes. We have been here since the Glacier retreated and thus older than you think.
We are not related.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica You are not authority of Finland. I have lots of finnish friends on my real life who work my company's finland office.don't worry we explain our mission all of them and they support that. Maybe this is not possible now for building a union with you.
ceyhunPak 1 year ago
@ceyhunPak
Your "union" has no unifying factor. Your dream is to lump various kinships, religions and world-views into one, and that is not possible.
-Furthermore, Finns are science-oriented. If there is no connection to speak of, vast majority is going to reject your claim and idea.
That few Finns thought you have a good idea, is simply irrelevant. I suspect they did not know about the lack of connections between the various kinships?
-Authority of Finland is science and reason.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica Yesterday I met up with some finnish in a business dinner. But we will make that step by step, we talk all person who member of turanic nation. We meet up with Hungarians with Kurultaj on Hungary. Time is comming soon, no one can stop turanic red apple ideal. Hajra TURAN!!!
ceyhunPak 1 year ago
@ceyhunPak
Most of the people who want this Turan simply want too many kinships togther. And even IF such union would emerge, do you honestly think that Turks would not try to impose themselves as leaders?
-Do you ignore the cultural traits of each kinship and nation?
-Do you ignore religious mindsets of others?
-Do you ignore the fact that people cannot understand eachothers due to the languages?
What do you actually have in your hands? What solid basis you try to strive from?
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
Lets see... your post is filled with veiled insults and downright condescending attitude, but I will answer to your questions nontheless.
¤Finno-Ugric theory was initially tied to similarities in language. Filological connections are not valid, but as the genetics go, Finnics and Ugri are indeed related.
¤The Glacier retreated several Millenia before you seem to think. Finnish swamps give detailed and accurate timeline, feel free to see that one yourself.
I'll continue...
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
¤I did not actually give any insight on living up here, you made that part up. But Jurtas and tents are seen as the earliest dwelling places by the Proto-Finnics. They were mainly fishermen in the very beginning.
¤Lapps, the Sámi-kin are NOT what you claim. They are one group of the original Europeans, not the White Huns you'd want them to be. But do present your side of the argument. Give genetics, insight, migration routes etc...
BAck up, or back down.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
„9500 BCE[2] when the glacier retreated..”
good theory….9500B.C. ? living in Yurta tents fishing,hunting etc.. sounds like fun..:)
to migrate/settle north without domesticted animals reendeirs/horses..etc is very unrealistic...
I think Yurta and horse comes together not sure…. 9500B.C. is also very unrealisitc date....
about Reindeers domestication:
„evidence for domestication, in the form of sledges and saddles by the the pastoral
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
I find it odd that you would think that domesticated animals would be required for hunting-gatherers.
-Why would mobile people in Taiga-like areas or in ancient archipelago NEED domesticated animals?
Horse/Raindeer are recent additions as is animal husbandry in general.
But we do have items from the times of Glacier retreat. We have worlds oldest fisihn net, as to point out the supposed means of survival for the Proto-Finnic peoples.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
Why do you find that movement after the Glacier is unrealistic?
-What part is odd?
And Jurta is in essence, reinforced tent. Tent is habitat of mobile people.
-But no beast of burden is needed for light, mobile habitats.
And you think that Sàmi kins followed the Raindeers, it seems.
-Sàmi museum (their own museum up North) itself points out towards different approach, as does genetics and timelines of settlements in the North.
How about your notion on White Huns?
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica
You are talking about the first appearance of humans(hunter gahtrers) after the ice age in north.
the aincent european hunter gatheres lived in caves/pits not yurta but it’s not the point…you confused me with the yurta(hun word) these pepople didn’t really have any culture indentity yet…
Yes they had some primitve tools that’s it so fishing net is very high tech tool + it’s logical without good fhising skills it’s impossible to stay alive north….
JohnGoldboom 1 year ago
@JohnGoldboom
We Finns are the descendant of the first people who migrated Northwards, following the Glacier...
-So therefore we indeed can survive in the North without caves, as we do not have them. Also, there is no need to have domesticated animals in order to survive here, unlike you would seem to think. But you are a Southerner, so I am not surprised that you do not know better.
...Cultural identity is a recent phenomenon. Such ideologies were not tainting the early Europeans.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
@ArmaFennica My dear Finnish Brother/Friend..Please, if you dont accept our ideal just close this page..Its not that hard..I respect your opinions and you had the chance to mention them here..But what we Turanians think won`t change..We have different languages, different religions, different looks but we are Bound By Blood..Its not a matter of unification by borders..Its a matter of unification in awareness..Thank you
BronzePlaque 11 months ago
@BronzePlaque
-Well, first off; I respect your calm and inteeligent answer. It's a far cry from most other Turanists I have had the pleasure to `talk´ to.
What I am against in Turanism, is the fact that evidence to support it, is not there.
When confronted this lack of matters to present, most Turanists start bashing and screaming. Defensive mechanism to mask the lack of proof/connections.
Other issue is the ideology of supremacy which comes along with Turanism.
ArmaFennica 11 months ago
@couchpotato25 thats what Han boy said..go produce an unqualified toy in a factory or sth
BronzePlaque 11 months ago
@BronzePlaque uh uh I'm from Singapore, which has a GDP per capita three time of Turkey. so on average, I'm worth 3x more than you ;) very coincidentally I am Han Chinese, at least you got that right. your Muslim & Turk brothers clean toilets in Singapore. Muslim vermin are the underclass of the world - kebab sellers in Europe, thieves and crooks in China, bombers in the USA and toilet cleaners in Singapore. who would want to associate with you? ;)
couchpotato25 11 months ago
@couchpotato25
67 vs 4
go away
IdelUralState 11 months ago
@couchpotato25 so u accept producing unqualified toys? roflmao hey produce me a cheap fabric pants too, need 3..go on :)
BronzePlaque 11 months ago
@couchpotato25
without zion capital you were the shit we were cleaning!
century haven't turned over yet!
have fun in your hole!
zulkarneynification 8 months ago
United Turanian Brother Hood, We are top of the food chain United Wolf Pack, keep up the good work always looking out for your great videos, thank you
proudTURKmenem 2 years ago 10
magyar vagyok
laslohun 2 years ago 9
greetings
ZuzerHun 2 years ago 5
Her Ülkücü, Türk Milliyetçisi, Vatansever Turancı olmak zorundadır. Din ve mezhep ayrımı olmaksızın tüm türkleri tekrar bir çatı altında toplamak Bilge Kağanın bize vasiyetidir. Toprak olarak tek bir devlet haline gelemzsekte Avrupa Birliği benzeri Turan Birliğini kurmamız gerekmektedir.TTK.
ceyhunPak 2 years ago 8
Turk haliktar bir bolsyn!
kazakamerican 2 years ago 25
tileginiz öte jaksy bawrym, köp raxmat sagan.
Turk haliktar bir bolsyn bar bolsyn!
Bäri tugandara jürekten salem aitarmyn.
Hudai bizdin halktarymyzdi erdaim koldasyn!
TTKTURAN 2 years ago 9
Çok güzel olmuş.Muhteşem.
Haritalara Moğolistan ıda dahil etseydiniz.Onlar da Turanlı,hatta öz yurdumuz!
Kop rahmet.Selam belen.
ALTINORDALI 2 years ago 8
Coq güzeL oLmush , eLLerine sagLik arkadash ;)
5*
06ankaram06 2 years ago 7
5*****
TTKTURAN 2 years ago 6
cok süper! ellerine saglik kardes!
Hawk816816 2 years ago 6
Ellerine saglik cok güzel bir paylasim Kardesim!
Sana ve Turana Full Destek!!!!! 5 * * * * *
TurkmanPower 2 years ago 7
very nice!!!!! cool
subazo1 2 years ago 9
5 yildiz *****
AMA MALESEF TÜRKIYEDE KI TÜRKLER HELE GENCLER TURANIN ANLAMINI BILE BILMIYOR KI HEP SEKS HAYATI OLMUS ORALARI ALMANYA TÜRKÜ OLARAK ÜZÜLDÜM BU YAZ TATILINDE
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OGUZHANTURANMHPcCc 2 years ago 9
sarkinin adi nedir ?
balkanturkic 2 years ago 7