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  • gohan turning ssj2 is epiic in the original nothing will come close

  • I was the absolute FIRST person to upload Nicktoons Eng. Dub SSJ2 Gohan in Kai

    I was like 1-2 weeks before another clip was uploaded of SS2 Kai

    But being barely known, it only has 45 views since I first uploaded it (2 minutes after the 10:00 showing)

  • ....they cut it in the wrong places.. i swear.

  • No Day of destiny spirit vs spirit? Ughhhhh....I love that song :(

  • Is this nicktoons?

  • hey i made an uncut version of this scene, plz put it in ur video responses :)

  • Stop bitching about the music you lamos, just wait for DBZ Kai Part 8 and everyone will do their own music placement.

    I like this BGM for Gohan SSJ2, but there was better BGMs to choose from.

  • the funimation was so much better it had a way better scream and it showed gohan inner stuggle after 16 was crushed

  • @naruto15441 By inner struggle do you mean corny and unrealistic monologue. And the Kai dub is made by FUNimation so "the funimation" could refer to either one.

  • @naruto15441 It showed a bunch of useless dialouge that stated what everyone else already knew.

  • @naruto15441 This is Funimation

  • that scream was incredible

  • Also the transformation in the next episode is way better, nexus it shows him, ya know, transforming.....

  • Kai gohan - Z gohan Kai did way better rage screams for everybody pretty much...

  • Tried this scene with Baldur's Gate 2 Bhawlspawn battle music. And it fit better than what the placement here was in my opinion.

  • The music is still superior to Faulconer, but not great. The placement is ghastly.

  • Well, 16's dialogue really disappointed me, I really preferred the original Z dialogue there, and like everyone else I was disappointed by the music choice. However, I really dislike "Spirit vs Spirit" which IMO is one of the worst cases of insert songs in anime. Just my opinion.

  • Toei is so fucking stupid sometimes.

  • Anination, PLEASE make an alternate version of this with different music.

  • @calmsnowfall check the video responses;)

  • I don't know what everybody is talking about, the music choice was amazing

  • Yeah, they could definitely have done a better job choosing a Kikuchi piece to play with this. And the edit to the footage makes it seem awkward.

  • I dont how i feel about the music i miss the ripped off movie music but this music is just there not great or bad is just there but without music in the background it gives this scene a serious tone instead of epic which i like it gives the show a more mature feel

  • That's stupid, they didn't even play the sound so people new to DBZ won't know what happened!

  • @Megaman33570 You can hear it when Gohan's standing there in shock, they just put it in the wrong spot.

  • @MetroidJunkie2007 oh your right

  • I long for the day when someone edits the entire Kai series with the proper score because this is just shameful.

  • @DoubleAG1 or you could just watch japanese z

  • @054martinm I'm watching japanese z now on the dragon boxes but I still want a proper dbz in my native language. We were so close to having the perfect english dbz but Toei had to ruin it by lazily using random tracks for the score.

  • @DoubleAG1 This IS the proper score.

  • @sonikku956 Yes it's proper as in official. Good on the other hand, I don't think so. I think we can all agree that Toei could have done a much better job.

  • @swbfwarrior I'm a faulconer fan, but i'd say that the original faulconer placement wasn't really any better. They could have used a far better song

  • took long

  • Yamamoto's score was way better than the replacement score they choice. It was my fave music for Gohan's ssj2 transformation out of all the others

  • I played Spirit vs Spirit while playing this and it was awesome! The only problem is that on the Z version is slower and the Kai version goes faster.

  • If only it had Spirit vs Spirit instead. This scene would have been beast with it. Or even the plagurized Yamamoto score would have fit here too.

  • Kai's first version was better. GODLY better. this just gave a feeling of fear that Gohan has over his own dormant power and forshadows how violent and ruthless Gohan becomes after unleashing that power and killing the cell juniors. the scream was INCREDIBLE though. i have a feeling it's gonna be redone in the boxsets :) alot of stuff always is. why didn't the keep the original KAI song!? damn. in Bruce Almighty's (Nolan) words, Toei," you SUCK!"

  • @1stnaruto Because the music composer for kai plagiarized some songs and the song used for kai when gohan turns ssj2 will never be released.

  • @UltimateGOKUX we all know that. They kept the song that trunks' voice actor sings when trunks fights cell which is strange

  • @1stnaruto That was a insert song and wasn't plagiarized, FUNimation and TOEI wont run risk of putting any of kenji's work in the releases, it just won't happen.

  • @UltimateGOKUX oh well

  • @1stnaruto Kenji Yamamoto is a cheap ass. He has always plagiarized songs without getting caught.

    Battle Point Unlimited=Propaganda

    Hatred at 2 Power=Bullet for my valentines

    and dozen of other soundtracks. He's scum but I'm impressed he got this far.

  • @UltimateGOKUX atleast not all of the Kai songs were plagarized

  • And the song Gohans anger was what made this scene epic in Z.. Without Gohans Anger the scene is shit. Fkn kai

  • @ibrahim2431

    "Spirit vs Spirit" was what made this scene

    This scene was specifically animated for the song "Spirit vs Spirit"

    watch?v=CncprLa_E-c

    The DBZ dub screwed it up with a pointless monologue (In the old dub Gohan says "I loved you 16" despite having never even seen 16 before that very day) and it screwed it up by changing the music

    The Kai dub finally dubs the scene correctly, but Toei fucks it up by choosing bad music for the scene

    Its like we'll never get the scene right

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  • @SerenGetter just watch the original japanese Kai version. that one is the best.

  • @SerenGetter Either one of the songs (Kai/Z) would've been great for the scene. Instead, they use same old music. It's like Toei went out of their way to suck the epic out of this scene.

  • I was raging when they didnt show cell stepping on 16's head. That was my favorite part!!!

  • @ibrahim2431 Ah well, the uncut version of this scene will release around march :P

  • I'll be doing a comparison with this scene here.

  • without the music its not the same.seriously the high point of today was the episode of bardock special. that whole scene in the end was way better than this. i love kai but without the music it feels empty without emotion. what really dragged it down was the music they chose which was extremely overused, i honestly think kai should have just taken a long break and gotten a new soundtrack. listen to episode of bardock it has a great soundtrack this just ruined it. good yell though.

  • The Epicness is greatly reduced because of the shitty music choice. The original Kai version of this scene was the most epic scene in the entire show and the music played a huge role in that...

    This whole music scandal thing really decreased kai's epicness, such a shame even the orignal Z version of this is better....

  • Damn another scene Kai fucked up. 16 voice with that echo was dumb and my friend thought gohan was a girl lol

  • @zoomkobe24 And now the nostalgia fag returns -_- You really think a ten yr old is suppossed to sound like a fucking smoker teen.

  • BA HUM BUG

  • colleen didnt need the oozaru roar lol. shes an oozaru unto herself

  • the scream was epic! even better than i expected. i knew itd be good because of her mssj powerup scream

  • @ImmaDbzSpanish RAGE

  • I'm a little disapointed

    Primarily by the music choice here

    I really enjoy Kikuchi pieces for some episode & scenes and for others I don't

    This was a really bad choice for music. It doesn't feel like a special moment

    This feels like just another power-up

  • @SerenGetter Agreed! Any of the other two songs would have been great as the performances and everything else was perfect this time around. But something's always gotta give, I guess.

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  • @SerenGetter I kind of agree, but the music placement is still great.

    The BGM "Gathering Energy for Genki Dama" might've worked with this scene.

  • @DBKaiFANSonGokuRises

    If they had to use a Kikuchi piece, I would feel these are better choices

    watch?v=K0HiiPNdILI

    watch?v=QmbzQ0JwnHc

    watch?v=7nQXEdVzQWw

    watch?v=DQCpWr2Gzzg

    But really nothing compares to "Spirit vs Spirit" for this scene, but the Yamamoto piece was also a good second.

  • @SerenGetter Those would fit, the last one not so much.

    Gathering Energy for Genki Dama BGM track would've been a nice fit, imo.

    The good thing about this music replacement, is that the track is somewhat silent so it allows the the scream/voices get along with the mix-track.

  • @SerenGetter

    Your music choices fit so well. You should have been the one to insert all of the scores. You could place the songs a lot better then Toei.

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  • @SerenGetter Spirit VS Spirit was a yamamoto Piece. HE made almost all Insert songs for DBZ except for Solid State Scouter and Battle point unlimited

  • @Ashurathehedgehog196 BattlePoint Unlimited was also by Yamamoto.

  • @SerenGetter well that's what happens when someone gets fired off the original score of a show

  • I really loved this scene. I like the voice filter they did with 16, plus the long scream that echoed in the backround when Gohan was screaming was a nice touch too. :)

  • DAT YELL! Colleen did excellent!

  • " Better than I thought it would be but it'll be even better uncut." So WHY didn't you wait for the uncut verison? I mean seriously Nicktoons couldn't even have the balls to show Cell crushing Android 16's head!!! I don't completely hate DBZ Kai like every other DBZ fan that watched the show on Cartoon Network, but this scene is still dog shit. So when are you going to add your epic music into this scene AniNationReborn?

  • @RegBeta U do know it's a kids network right?

  • @TheWhiz93 So was and still is Cartoon Network, but they didn't shy away from the violent and bloody kills at all!

  • It's a shame they removed the crushing noise of 16's head, would've been perfect to add with Gohan's reaction shot. Other than that, though, pretty much what you'd expect.

  • @MetroidJunkie2007 Scratch that, apparently they positioned it to after it already showed 16's pieces scattering about? Yeah, makes complete sense...

  • @MetroidJunkie2007 That was a Nicktoons audio error :P

  • @gamefreakin How's that a Nicktoons error? Unless their site did it, Funimation's the one that moved scenes around.... or Ocean Group.

  • @MetroidJunkie2007 Yea, I meant the censoring FOR nicktoons  ...

  • @gamefreakin That's not the point. They could've played the sound during the second when they showed Gohan's reaction. You know, right before they showed 16's parts scatter? Instead of after Cell made his comment, where its placement made no sense? Nicktoons simply told them what to censor, Funimation decides HOW it's censored and goof'd.

  • @MetroidJunkie2007 I know they goofed... thats why I called it an error..

  • @gamefreakin But it's not an error on Nicktoons' part.

  • @shadowluma

    I think Yamamoto composed Unmei no Hi.

    Or if he didn't, maybe it's because of the same reason Mind Power...Ki:

    TOEI BE TROLLING.

    Also,in the most broadcasted dub over here,in Z,this scene had no music,which actually sounded pretty good...

  • @ImmaDbzSpanish RAGE

  • Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Kai, but I feel like it just took my favorite scene from DBZ and raped it up the ass!

  • @Avpsagaman why? apart from the generic music this was fantastic in every area

  • @054martinm Mainly because of the announcer. He's just not as amazing as the one in Z. Btw, this is the version I watch. /watch?v=z3dL2VAnXWM

  • @Avpsagaman old dub announcer sounded like a cheesy pro wrestler and if you think that sounds any better than this announcer than I don't know what to say.

  • @PrinceofSaiyajins456 well I don't know if you're talking about funi or ocean, but either way, my favorite is still the funi one.

  • @PrinceofSaiyajins456 also this scene with mystic gohan's theme is amazing!

  • The music choice is terrible here. Why not use 'Soul vs Soul,' by Kikuchi?

  • Lol. I watched this scene thousands of times in the original version, but despite that I was confused about what happened when just a few gears fell to the ground. xD

    At least a crunching sound would help, or at least show cells foots shadow over his head

  • After waiting over a year I must say my faith in Clinkenbeard has been rewarded. Naldony was great but Clinkenbeard is my Gohan.

  • I just watched this. Not as bad. They could have used a sound effect when his head got crushed.

  • Better in DBZ

  • @MegaTaunTaun93

    Kiss my shiny, metal ass.

  • Clinkenbeard >>>>>>>>>>> Naldony

  • This went straight to my faves, thank you so much for uploading this 8D

  • Nicktoons could of easily done a better job with 16's death, simular with Ultimate Tenkaichi, look's like I'll have to do some edit's and upload my version of this scene...

  • Yeah, if they would've chosen a different track, this scene would have been MUCH better.

  • Awesome you got the scene early! I have to say, Collen did an awesome job doing her scream, way better than the older Gohan from the Funimation dub!

  • Decent scene, crappy music placement. Seriously, the music for this scene is horrible. Other than that, I have no qualms.

  • @Janemba800 Well they were supposed to insert a awesome music piece here before the music got replaced after episode 64 (the japanese version of this scene has the unreplaced music, so check that out if you want too hear it)

  • Lol i dislike how they dont even show him stompin it

  • Much better than I expected but Nadolney did it better.

  • on nicktoons?

  • yeah i just saw it like 1 minute ago lol,i didn't really just andriod 16's speech before he died.Sounded corny.

  • I literally saw this a minute ago lol

  • The music simply doesn't fit the scene whatsoever.

  • Im watching this on TV at the same time it sounds so cool its double voices with gohan and 4 times the voices with anroid 16

  • Such a shame Spirit vs Spirit wasn't played. Would have made it 10x better. Well I quess I know what I'm doing when the final part of Kai comes out.

  • @UltimateGOKUX

    This scene was cut down too short for SVS to even be played.

  • @TheOfficialGoten Nah, the song is about 5mins and they put SVS in the original and theres no reason why it wouldn't fit here either.

  • @UltimateGOKUX

    If you look at the Z version of this scene, it is much longer with staring and stuff. They cut this scene by a lot for Kai, so I don't think SVS would have worked here.

  • @TheOfficialGoten It's still simple to cut a song down, it's not hard to find the length you need for a scene. I do it all the time with my songs for specific scenes.

  • was this aired?

  • @gogeta3366 it's airing right now.

  • @gogeta3366 It is right now but I got the scene early

  • @AniNationReborn damn i need fuckin cable but at least i can watch it online i just want to see it on tv 1st

  • 16 with the voice filter was a nice touch not included in the original. Such a shame thought that they removed the Ozaru roar that was in the Japanese version.

  • @ImmaKai1 I was hoping they wouldn't add a filter because I thought it would of been annoying. I was wrong about that.

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